When the Hammer Falls - Clamavi De Profundis (Original Song)

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"When the Hammer Falls" is an original song we wrote based on the dwarves from fantasy literature like that of J.R.R. Tolkien. We hope you enjoy it:)
We hope you enjoy this piece!
We wrote the lyrics, composed, and arranged the piece. My family sang it.
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Clamavi De Profundis
Joe Slucher
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Rodrigo Mendez
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Very special thank you for the generous donation of your artwork for our video!
Please no bad language in the comments. We want this to be family friendly:) Thank you!
Lyrics:
When the Hammer Falls
Down in the deep,
Where the dragon used to sleep,
Glorious gold,
Glimmers in our home of old,
Dark as the night,
Where the day has lost its light,
When the hammer falls.
When the hammer falls,
And it sounds through the halls,
When the hammer falls,
Freeing treasures from the walls,
When the hammer strikes,
And the kingdom comes to life,
When the hammer pounds,
Like the thunder underground,
When the hammer falls,
When the hammer falls!
Of legend and myth,
Is the craft of the smith,
The molten metal poured,
And pounded into sword,
From the fire is made,
Every Dwarven axe and blade,
When the hammer falls.
When the hammer falls,
Forging weapons for all,
When the hammer falls,
Songs of battle fill the halls,
When the hammer flies,
Lines of armored Dwarves arise,
With the hammer’s roar
We go marching off to war!
When the hammer falls,
When the hammer falls!
The orcs came to our land,
And we fought them hand to hand.
Sweat and blood,
Turned the ground to mud,
Dwarf and Orc in strife,
Sought to vanquish every life,
When the hammer falls.
When the hammer falls,
Back our enemy crawls
When the hammer quakes,
Orcish cowards’ bones will break,
When the hammer cracks,
And it beats their armies back,
When the hammer’s boom,
Sends the monsters to their doom,
When the hammer falls,
When the hammer falls!
When the hammer falls,
Then our victory calls,
When the hammer falls,
Songs of glory fill the halls,
When the hammer flies,
Mighty heroes now arise,
With the hammer’s sound,
Live the Dwarves down underground,
When the hammer falls,
When the hammer falls!

[@ClamaviDeProfundis]

Thanks for helping us hit 10 million views on this song! One of our fans started this petition! What if Clamavi de Profundis Did the Music for Amazon's Lord of the Rings Series? www.change.org/p/amazon-have-clamavi-de-profundis-compose-for-amazon-s-lord-of-the-rings-original-series

[@bellsofdoom5342]

Done 💪🏻

[@mcmactheaveragesunbro8741]

YES

[@conradpickl1921]

You have another signiture.

[@jeremiahoconnor5750]

You have my support!

[@prolamer7]

And you please continue making such nice songs, there is so much trash popular music and you counter it by this little mirracles!

[@dragonwithamonocle]

"So you're in a dwarven metal band, eh? What instrument do you play?" "I play the anvil"

[@blebbb4728]

Such important role

[@highkingthorgrimgrudgebear7468]

I actually sang in a show where a percussionist had an anvil and hammer. Great show.

[@westernstealth873]

It's fun being a percussionist when the 6 lbs (~2.7 kg) hammer and brake disc (lightweight anvil) is involved! :D

[@natedorney7032]

Aule the smith has entered the chat

[@denniswitteveen4814]

This post is gold, or rather mithril!

[@5pctd2br98]

Work like a dwarf, be simple like a hobbit, wise like an elf and brave as a man

[@tsar9789]

or just be a badass dwarf

[@thisguyhere5837]

Scream like an orc

[@alang8071]

And crafty as a wizard 🧙‍♂️

[@biggsdarklighter0473]

@@alang8071 crafty like an artificer,

[@vhals2052]

This is the most racist thing I've ever read...... Jk ;)

[@ethanvandersloot8033]

As a blacksmith I know that it is not as extreme as everyone thinks, but listening to this while forgoing changes that.

[@itay6699]

I watch a lot smithing on TV and knows how hard it is to make 1 tool, so just wanted to say appreciate your work.

[@nerdlord27]

As a fellow blacksmith. I gotta say this song rocks to have playing while pounding to the beat.

[@smaug9956]

@@nerdlord27 same

[@Sturm01]

@@nerdlord27 rah!

[@SephirothRyu]

I like how all the blacksmiths have come together thanks to this song.

[@tardis225]

"When the hammer flies, Mighty heroes now arise," sent shivers down my body. I love that line.

[@AlexandreJWKlaus]

similarly it was .... Lines or armoured Dwarves arise for me

[@josephehlers2007]

I read that as the song sung it, I love when that happens

[@smaug9956]

Lol

[@Pontesauro]

@@AlexandreJWKlaus Nope hear this 3:50

[@natedorney7032]

Dain Ironfoot as he stood over the body of King Brand Of Dale

[@huzi1876]

I was born without claws, without fangs, without scales. So, I forged them in fire and crafted them of steel.

[@charmingbeast7738]

Yes

[@milesmatheson1142]

Stealing.

[@L_mattox]

The story of mankind. We were made without claws, so we made knives, spears, bow and arrow, and other such things. We were made without gills, so we made boats, ships, and wharves. We could not see in the dark, or keep warm in the cold, so we tamed fire, and later tamed electricity.

[@knight5846]

Born of the forge die by the forge

[@Mr.frog69]

Twure af

[@beastwarsFTW]

How many dwarves does it take to change a lightbulb? Trick question, if a dwarf made a lightbulb it wouldn't go out.

[@isitnotwrittenthat1680]

Trick question, they use fire fools!

[@TheWoodsmanMilling]

Dwarf made light bulbs for sale! Pure Mithril filaments guaranteed or your money back!

[@Nich011]

@@TheWoodsmanMilling Such an underrated comment.

[@lilcrusty2161]

69th Like

[@blacktemplar9499]

@@lilcrusty2161 nice

[@thegrimspartan2806]

My neigborhood loves this song so much 13 dwarves and a wizard are raiding my pantry and throwing my dishes around while singing.

[@matteopellecchia5250]

And they are offering you to fight to retake a old Kingdom from a terrible beast.. the Karen dragon

[@javikhodson9521]

Don't worry, they wont blunt the knives.

[@thegrimspartan2806]

@@javikhodson9521 yeah, but they ate all my provisions and now I can't have second breakfast, let alone elevensies.

[@grimreaper9952]

And 321 ohh blunt the knives...

[@thegrimspartan2806]

@@grimreaper9952 bend the forks,

[@madlarkin8]

Lets be real. The one things that makes dwarves superhuman.... Work ethic. Everything they do, they do with care and attention to detail. Whether its mining rock, smithing, fighting, or drinking, they go 110% They dont have immortality or natural arcane abilities, theyre just fully committed to everything in life, which makes them seem exceptional by human standards.

[@AntonsVoice]

And if they don't do good, the dwarf wives chew them out.

[@eaglescott17]

In 5e D&D, it's mentioned that dwarves will sell "inferior" equipment to others, one example is a shovel to a human farmer. Of course, an "inferior" dwarven shovel sold to a farmer will last that farmers entire life, so the farmer thinks he got a great deal.

[@42Nightsyesterday]

They’re just like Japanese, make everything to perfection to the point there is not time to procreate and slowly disappear over time

[@Ricky-ce3jo]

It makes them more "Human" than any person

[@lawrencerutherford4260]

@@eaglescott17 the funny thing is ive read stories where they only ever sell failures to non dwarves but they are still classed as epic

[@RosesBottom]

You have my hammer And my hammer And my hammer *AND MY HAMMER*

[@talistrahan6374]

And my Hammer!

[@luxenby2260]

And MY hammer

[@tork9646]

And my Hammer!

[@taylorwitherington]

And my HAMMER!

[@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story]

And My hammer!

[@Murczx]

This somehow manages to capture the essence of a culture that doesn't even exist.

[@AntonsVoice]

Agreed. Now sing!

[@andreasmerkel5717]

Who knows, what exists in a Multiverse.....

[@StabbyTheSkaven]

@@andreasmerkel5717 who knows if there is a multiverse

[@rogeliomoreno8001]

@Lorenz Witzel If it does not exist in our universe. maybe it exists on another universe.

[@joshuadougall2544]

A song only resonates with us if something within ourselves goes out to meet it - perhaps the dwarven spirit does exist, in us.

[@Treilerk]

This is fan made? Man, this could pass as a legit Tolkien song.

[@justinmorlock4281]

I honestly thought it was....

[@emmanuelgonzalez5599]

Frls bro

[@belacile]

To be fair, it's not quite poetic enough to be a Tolkien song, but that doesn't stop it from being an awesome dwarven tune.

[@HexCypherr]

@@belacile its not poetic but it still feels like Tolkien's work or at least has the vibe of someone who has read Tolkien eoungh to get a degree in it it. (yes that's a real thing)

[@aimizonoroff9959]

@Simpleton Life You can get degrees by studying on almost anything

[@fernandouriaramirez1490]

- Dwarven smith *accidentally drops a hammer* - The entire kingdom: WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS!...

[@gds8732]

ahh but you see they NEVER drop their hammers for they are far too skilled and the hammer is too valued

[@jamescamber1523]

I pictured it in my head and I laughed so hard. xD

[@zakattak8378]

WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS

[@scoutsarado8447]

even if a dwarf dropped their hammer, it would be caught before it hit the ground

[@QuesoPhiladelphia476]

@@gds8732 they even use hammers for war .w.

[@rdrivestudios]

When the hammer falls, this song echoes through my neighbor's walls

[@HezUhlive22]

Lol!

[@blakejohnson9823]

When the hammer flies This songs sound fills up the skies

[@levenloos9917]

When the hammer falls, my neighbor screams to me through the walls.

[@joshroth829]

🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@chevin0]

when I listen to Clamavi de Profundis, we're ALL gonna listen!

[@jupiter_adept]

"It was a real dwarf axe; with a pick on one side in case you wanted to go prospecting and an axe blade on the other in case anyone tried to stop you."

[@KatrinaM3723]

I have one actually. It also had a spear!

[@ThatIrishLass]

That might just be a halberd

[@thegingerkingshanks7587]

@@ThatIrishLass I think so too

[@darklordchauncy]

Gotta love Terry Pratchett.

[@aaronscott7467]

@@ThatIrishLass doesn't a halberd need a long handle?

[@LabToast56]

This is a dwarven song. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. The piece describes dwarves, hammers, and orcs. The dwarves are raising the hammers. The dwarves are striking a triumphant pose. The orcs are terrified.

[@leaderofstars8774]

perfect

[@boorochester460]

Ah yes. Exactly what the song says thank you....

[@kman5475]

I would run headfirst, unarmed and unarmored, for the !!☼triplets☼!! in this song!

[@kyleschneider6871]

@@kman5475 I'd pursue them as ardently as I would a legendary sock dropped outside my mine while it is under attack by a dragon.

[@Efranor]

@João Pedro Rusisca De Toledo you mean how a =*Man of culture*= looks?

[@andrewengelsma277]

WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME, MY MOM'S SCREAMS OF FRUSTRATION FILL THE HALLS!

[@keeffrost4428]

XD

[@mommabear3448]

So true

[@tatooine_heros780]

That's funny

[@amelierichter661]

🤣

[@padichlevi]

When the hammer quakes, I am grounded again!

[@matheusarruda6462]

Something I particularly like is how the first half of the song sounds quieter, more like a celebration of the Dwarves's general society and love for ores and smithing, while the second half kicks into high-gear with a celebration of their glory in battle and sounds like a marching song.

[@wojciechkowalski8061]

Exactly! This represents dwarven civilization to the point: they are happy and content being just left alone to their mines and forges, creating great works of craftsmanship they can truly be proud of. But if you threaten their way of life, they will defend it till their last breath, often with the same tools that were used in said mines and forges. Have you ever noticed that Tolkien's dwarfs rarely, if ever, express desire to conquer or subjugate other races? And almost all conflicts they take part in (not counting occasional mercenary companies) is almost always a defensive war or an attempt to reclaim one of their lost holdings?

[@angryvaultguy]

@@wojciechkowalski8061 yea that's part of the reason why the dwarf race is my favorite, they fight to protect what they hold dear or as you said reclaim what was lost

[@michaelaparicio3738]

Me before listening to this: 6'3" ~160lbs After listening: 4'10" ~240lbs with a beard to the floor

[@snowfox7935]

Covered in plate armor, drunk, and ready for a fight.

[@aethertech]

@@snowfox7935 And singing in a deep baritone voice the glory of your people.

[@austinbutcher8106]

Id emagen dwarvs weigh more than 200 i mean those muscles

[@spartan5432]

Don't forget your Methrill

[@jacobreichert6239]

And my voice may have dropped an octave.

[@lexsamreeth8724]

"A dwarf..." Bjard scowled, and slammed his flagon onto the table hard enough that cracks formed in the wood. Everyone fell silent, and turned to regard the stout young dwarf, his beard hardly long enough to bear two beads. But he spoke with words that seemed ancient enough to be carved in the roots of a mountain. "A dwarf does NOTHING by half-measure! If we do not put our all into it, we do not even consider beginning a task! Where a man swears fealty to a lord one year, then rises against him ten years later, we stand by our oath! Where a gnome abandons his project in pursuit of the latest mechanism or chemical to catch his eye, we study it until it is perfected, and we know EXACTLY how it can be used, in ANY situation! The works of man crumble and decay over centuries, and the arts of elves fade like mist over millenia. But the craft of the dwarf? The craft of the dwarf shall STAND, until the stars go dark and the sun itself fades to cinders!"

[@anthonysunseri1865]

Is this original or from something else? Because by Aulë and Eru that is amazing!

[@lexsamreeth8724]

@@anthonysunseri1865 Completely original!

[@anthonysunseri1865]

@@lexsamreeth8724 I am amazed. Well done!

[@realbryanf]

Delete this and go write a book you glorious bastard!

[@Starlight-yk7pk]

I may not be a dwarf... Only a man with what little magic I can gather... But I stand with you, and unlike the softness of man, or the fading magics of elves, my blood, my magic, it will stand with you, shall the stars burn out, I will light more, shall the sun fade to darkness, then my life will bring a new sun for dwarves might, may my magic, what little I have, and may my life, no matter how different I be, show that I stand with you, and will not leave you in time as elves, or betray as man... For I am magic first, knowledge second, and human last, my humanity may be weak in battle, but you will not see me kneel with any foe, nor betray any dwarf, I stand and fight to my last breath to help unite this world, so that we all stand as endless in time as your craftsmanship, so we all have a reason to live

[@reallygoodbee]

Listening to this song, I just get these images of battles. Imagine being a soldier on the front lines. Maybe you're Elf, maybe you're Human. The Orcs are advancing. You're tired. Worn. Your lines can't survive another charge. And then you hear it. The marching. The singing. The hills and valleys themselves begin to ring out with the sound of Dwarven singing. Drums pounding. Hammers on anvils. And the song. And then over the hills they come. As far as the eye can see. Dwarves in shining and rock-solid unison. From every footfall, to every note, to every swing of the axe. And you are alive again.

[@Arch_The_Turtle]

When you say it, Yeah i can imagine it

[@bigtony4930]

ROCK AND STONE!

[@rm5940]

Well said! Bravo!

[@jade_orb]

Unless you're an Orc lol

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

Know the difference between a line of dwarves and a fortress wall? The dwarves can ALSO slash...

[@Emma-pl1qz]

I'm a simple dwarf, I see Clamavi De Profundis, I let my hammer fall on the like button.

[@deformiertergolfball4847]

no youre mikasa emma ackermann.

[@deformiertergolfball4847]

get your facts right

[@Emma-pl1qz]

@@deformiertergolfball4847 How do you know? Perhaps this is just a clever disguise, eh?

[@deformiertergolfball4847]

@@Emma-pl1qz Touché

[@anthonysunseri1996]

Brother, where's your beard?

[@sannekimenai639]

Bless you, Clamavi De Profundis, for yet another amazing Dwarven song. May your beards never grow thin!

[@Thefroggiestman]

And their halls be ever rich!

[@davidwattier2013]

May your hammer never break!

[@snet_4233]

And your axe be always sharp!

[@dragonking8085]

And your forges never darken

[@maximumdm9612]

And may your halls never grow silent

[@libertylarp9572]

I'm a larper. Every couple of months I go to a weekend-long camp out where me and a bunch of other nerds dress up like medieval times and beat the crap out of each other with foam weapons. The past two years I've been a barbarian. However a lot of people at LARP like to sing songs so I'm thinking of changing my character to a bard. I've been scouring the internet looking for songs to sing. This is exactly what I've been looking for. Your family makes such incredible music

[@idontknoq4813]

I thought were something completely different for a sec.

[@acdragonrider]

“We are sons of durin and durin’s folk do not run from a fight.”

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

When you realize just how many Orcs and Goblins it must have taken to bring down Moria

[@isitnotwrittenthat1680]

Not as many as you might think, stupid demon got out of the forge again.

[@AntonsVoice]

But the big magic weirdo killed it.

[@jackd5299]

Still, the actual Azog story is so amazing and how Tolkien ties the Goblin and Dwarf wars in with Hobbit is done in Tolkien's glorious way. You can't read Hobbit without also reading those stories from Return of the King.

[@liampeacock1342]

They took moria in the hobbit gandalf took down the balrog in the fellowship

[@asawijk803]

@Evincere shut up. You mountain troll.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

Me on break: Clamavi de Profundis: *new original song* Me: "finally, some good content on KZbin"

[@Janlyuk91]

Yea dwarf bro

[@BrotherhoodWorkshop]

I love this so much.

[@realkingofwales3917]

I remember you! I used to watch you all the time

[@sv_1407dl]

I love this a lot too, it's one of those few special songs in my spotify playlist. :D

[@belgium6598]

Lol me too

[@BlaznBrownBear]

i love you and your videos

[@mariuswessels5054]

My to I love it

[@cemcalsyor7944]

dwarves' anger for elves is nothing compared to their hatred for orcs

[@Case2_0]

Don’t forget dragon. They’ll go sailing to kill those beasts. (Get it, Dragonshore tie in :P)

[@cemcalsyor7944]

@@Case2_0 WE SAILED UPON THE SEAS

[@linusaman5858]

Screw the orcs

[@gwazz]

dwarf fortress disproves this

[@BIGESTblade]

And poor craftsmanship.

[@matheusarruda6462]

Original Dwarvish music by Clamavi de Profundis? Dear Aulë, that's incredible! You guys seem to have been born to represent Durin's folk. Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu!

[@matheusarruda6462]

@Murthor Oathstone aye, that be true!

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

@Murthor Oathstone The dawi? Perhaps from what men now know as central America?

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

@Murthor Oathstone ah.

[@hexa3389]

THE AXES OF THE DWARVES!!! THE DWARVES ARE UPON YOU!!!

[@unbelievablytrash9458]

@@hexa3389 Du bekar, Durin-nur!

[@rdrivestudios]

When you're running out of Tolkien's poems and songs so you just make your own

[@nataniel1002]

Durin aprowed!👍

[@osarkthegoat7038]

they're far from out of Tolkien poems, but this is awesome!

[@tevildo7718]

They're really not running out of poems not even close. That said this song is pretty great.

[@Hawkeye-cm2pv]

Tolkien still has many poems left to give to them, but sometimes it's nice to spice things up a little with something of your own.

[@mossodubhghaill7648]

not running out not even close, but I love the song

[@MLeoDaalder]

"When the hammer flies, Lines of armored Dwarves arise," Oi, who is the fool not taking care of his/her tools?!

[@Djones0125]

This song makes me tear up everytime because for some reason I couldn't stop replaying it in my head as I held my cat as she passed.

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

So sad :(

[@saruman_iii2586]

She is deemed worthy by the ancestors

[@dpanda.101]

I thought I was prepared, but it wasn't enough for this masterpiece

[@Romulus017]

How do i like this more then once?

[@Romulus017]

we were not prepared

[@timesthree5757]

when independent creators make better quality than the mainstream. Why for the love and passion of the craft.

[@Christopher-iy4nz]

A beautiful testament to Tolkien's legacy. I can imagine no other doing justice to his poems as you do, nor having the talent to craft your own. Thank you for every little joy you bring to our lives through music.

[@somebodyoncetoldme5203]

Why do the Dwarves always have the best songs!?

[@annaofthewoodlandrealm]

cause their Dwarves!

[@noyes4656]

@@annaofthewoodlandrealm because they need something to make fun of elves when they burn their stupid forests

[@lastsoldier4524]

Because the dwarves do everything at 100% then some.

[@randomelite4562]

@@noyes4656 How else are they gonna make up for the fact that Elves are better craftsmen?

[@noyes4656]

@@randomelite4562 by stealing their "better craftsmenship". Not only will they save money making weapons but now they will re-sell elves their things

[@jonathanlowe3862]

"Of legend and myth is the craft of the smith" i got freaking chills from that line... so good

[@lmonster3146]

Saw a notification and practically fell out of my desk

[@mennoltvanalten7260]

Why were you hiding inside a desk anyway?

[@erikcarp9359]

Mennolt van Alten Well you see... It’s a long story...

[@semp224]

Same

[@mennoltvanalten7260]

erik carp Well, I have the time...

[@Prototype063]

I legitimately fell off my couch

[@vonvoss6820]

I am speechless. The Glory of the Dwarves fill the halls! Thank you!

[@athensarfaras1466]

Von Voss Dwarves*

[@unbelievablytrash9458]

@@athensarfaras1466 Fun fact, the plural for Dwarf was once spelt Dwarfs, but Tolkien popularised the use of Dwarves as he found it made more sense.

[@jakobschoning7355]

@@unbelievablytrash9458 Sounds better too

[@unbelievablytrash9458]

@@jakobschoning7355 Much better.

[@bobbymalone7867]

Me before this song: orcs are the coolest and strongest warriors Me now: when the hammer quakes orcish cowards bones will break

[@professionalidiot5529]

Even the Horde can't defeat the Earth of Dwarven Ferocity

[@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051]

@@professionalidiot5529 dragon fire go brrreee

[@totalwartitan5118]

@@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 Dwarves start singing Dragonshore by same artist.

[@lastsoldier4524]

@@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 Right before the Dragons start screaming in fear.

[@filmandfirearms]

You thought the Orcs were great warriors? Their entire thing is overwhelming superior forces with waves upon waves of weak soldiers. They always suffer massive casualties, whether they win or lose. They're successful because they breed like bugs

[@fatman256]

When I first heard this I felt the blood im my veins run hot and was ready to charge into battle. Use this song now to get ready for work mentally

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

Feel the ancestral pride flow through you. You are descendant of Dwarves. You humans call their fossilized remains "Neanderthal". They were stronger, smarter, and Tougher than men. I was not yet born when they roamed the surface among Humans, but They still dwell beneath your feet.

[@Feanor6450]

The song makes me wanna fight something while weilding a 10 kilo sledgehammer

[@davidgreene3965]

I'm a D&D Dungeon Master. My party is going to be entering a Dwarven Kingdom in a couple of sessions to meet with the Dwarven King. The Dwarves are preparing for war and are going to be enlisting my party for their war. I'm totally playing this in the background as they enter the main forge. It will be epic!!!!!!!!!

[@jadonberg9364]

I play a dwarven paladin, so now I have to memorize this before our session so I can bring honor to my kin

[@z0ro_62]

I made a pretty famous dwarf nicknamed duppy longstory short i took over this ranger dwarf and somehow made him better with an axe

[@piotrwojcik6277]

how did it go?

[@Satou_Rin]

I get to be the first dwarven character in the history of my group’s D&D campaigns. A manly, hearty barbarian. I’m thinking of taking the Path of the Ancestors, I think it was called?

[@henrypaleveda7760]

What level of machination do the dwarves have in your campaign? (I ask cuz I see so many different and interesting ideas out of it.

[@Roshambo920]

I bet that any dwarf that hears this will immediately find some mead and get absolutely.......Hammered.

[@dave1411]

That was punny and I salute you sir.

[@daver9645]

They won't get as hammered as orc skulls though

[@dave1411]

@@daver9645 STOP!! Hammer time

[@foeneoken8054]

i celebrate with longhammer from redhook brewing

[@andyknightwarden9746]

@MrBeastman122 "When the Hammer falls!" "...The Hammer is my penis." Props if you get the reference.

[@heatherw8490]

My husband introduced your songs (starting with this one!) to my kids about 2 years ago. Now their bedtime songs are from you guys. This one is by far the most requested song.

[@tulipalll]

That is so beautiful 🙏

[@Nz-tm3gs]

When I listen to this song I cant help but imagine these dwarves are brilliant craftsmen who have mastered blackpower weapons and that the "Falling Hammer" does not just represent a forge hammer but also the hammer of guns and cannons falling as they fire in the heat of battle.

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

The hammer of a flintlock gun falling and igniting the powder

[@hound762]

This is just as poetic and wonderful as the song. Good job

[@lorenzogerardi3538]

This is basically Warhammer fantasy setting

[@tylersoto7465]

Hail the king of under the mountain lol, the dwarves of erabor and iron hills alone can run a industrial revolution on middle earth, erabor mountain alone is a ultimate bank of gold, silver and gems etc , iron hills has produce steel products and gears etc and Dale town is the agriculture and trading market for them 3 places , erabor can fund to build a steel rail line system going from iron hills to erabor and Dale town and to the lake for fish to feed the dwarves and humans with plenty of meat etc, having horses or giant goats to pull the railcars full of people and goods back and forth, rail lines make things easier and faster to move around, and if they wanted to they could build a rail line to shire and Rohan and white city area and have a big trading economy going, maybe the dwarves can create a useful plow to plow multiple rows of farmland and maybe a harvester to collect the crops etc pulled by animals , essentially they could create a modern urban lifestyle feel with preindustrial technology

[@paulelkin3531]

"We fought them hand to hand;" at the start of the battle, the dwarves meet the enemy in traditional melee combat. "When the hammer's boom;" the point when the cannons send round shot skipping through the orcish formation, sending up stone, wood, and bone shrapnel from everything they touch and leaving a twenty foot wide line of carnage in their wake.

[@BewareTheCarpenter]

Only the dwarves could make a moving anthem about hammers.

[@DeadSomething]

and the elves with their sickles... what would happen if they'd unite?

[@henrypaleveda7760]

putin would like to have a few words with you.

[@verdantsquire950]

BewareTheCarpenter wait till you hear a rendition of the dwarf song from discworld, that is an incredible song with possibly the best lyrics ever written

[@avatareternal3204]

Nah. Check out Glory Hammer from Napalm Records.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

dwarves or Russians but you wouldn't hear the Russian one under happy circumstances.

[@Bollthorn]

Boromir: "One does not simply walk into Mordor." Me after hearing this song: "Hold ma ale, sonny."

[@thereal13deadking]

You have to toss me! I can't walk that distance.

[@Hawkeye-cm2pv]

@@thereal13deadking Nobody tosses a dwarf!

[@mattaffenit9898]

Belegar Ironhammer of Clan Angrund, Rightful King of Karak Eight Peaks: "Ha! The manling fears death! Dawi, arise! Busk yourselves for war, and muster at the gate! At dawn we march for this Mordor!"

[@mrkitcatt2119]

Like a true northerner

[@pedrokantor4674]

[LAUGHS IN HAMMER]

[@danielbrunt4834]

Years later and this is still my favorite of any of your originals. It honestly competes with Song of Durin in its ability to capture the essence of Tolkein's dwarves. Their pride, their honor, their fierceness in battle, all of it.

[@giorgiapinna7725]

Oh thanks Aule for having created the dwarves and their mighty hammers.

[@mikaylababjac9585]

And Mando's for allowing aule to let them live!

[@Aldebaran-vf2be]

Clamavi de Profundis: "When the hammer falls!" Gimli: "And my axe!"

[@theomnissiah-9120]

Aldebaran 1918 the axe the love child of the hammer and the sword

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@@theomnissiah-9120 what about two handed axes which are closer to a spear?

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@midén olympus I had an image of a halberd but they are all valid options.

[@thelordofdice3932]

Clamavi de profundis: no Hammer Gimli: And My axe "increasingly irritated" Clamavi de profundis: HAMMER MAKES AXE FIRST NEED HAMMER FOR AXE Gimli: for a metal axe aye but i bet any dwarve could make a stone axe just and hard WITHOUT your hammer Clamavi de profundis: Fine we will put your axe into are vidio okay? Gimli:yes

[@quigongym5206]

Dwarves Smith Elves sing Men conquer Orcs chant Dragons fly And still the kingdom of Tolkien will endure

[@thetau4866]

Tolkien will never die as long as his fans endure!

[@joanmasdeu4600]

It may be too early to tell, but i bet that in the fantastic genre, Tolkien will be read for centuries to come.

[@garret1930]

Dwarves, elfs, mans, orken, Dragons This are the proper pluralism of those word.

[@hrfn130]

@@garret1930 Dwarves, elves, men, orcs, dragons *

[@garret1930]

@@hrfn130 This is my joke--> ____ This is you --> ('-')

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

Dwarves: Marching out to war to this magnificent piece. Dark Elves, Goblin-Kin and Dragons: Why do I hear Boss Music?

[@annatar6453]

Nothing stands taller than the might of the Dwarves

[@aname848]

Everybody Orcish until the dirt starts speaking Dwarven

[@Vorpal_Vox]

I somehow simultaneously don't know what that even means yet also feel like I understand this in my soul.

[@dreadpiraterobertsii4420]

Everybody Elfish until the trees start speaking spider

[@andreasballe7470]

Everybody Gondorian until the buildings start speaking Orcish.

[@ayindephulgence4950]

Every body orcish till the trees start walking

[@andreasballe7470]

@@ayindephulgence4950 did u get my joke

[@xernax1841]

They attac They protec But most importantly They bring Durin bacc.

[@xxwickedsoul4xx898]

Yes

[@Menhtrol]

Where exactly is this thing from ?

[@jimpapadakis7960]

@Warbel No,cause dwarves always attack first.

[@cataddict5975]

Xernax *clapping sound*

[@yoshiyoshi9496]

Good job

[@Benjamin-kh4mj]

"Down in the deep where the dragon used to sleep." Used to. You want to boast like a dwarf, make killing a dragon a footnote in your song about hammers.

[@boicbravesoul3974]

The real reason that this is so amazing is because it awakens a part of you, a longing for adventure that's trapped inside the chain technology has wrapped around it. In a way it sets you free. It give you a longing for something that never with come to pass.

[@Grungo-ko6sg]

Half right, it awakened adventure, but the chain wasn’t caused by electriconics, electornicas let me have the adventure thro minecraft

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

i wouldn't sayd adventure. But a sense of community, pride and building a legacy that will endure. Everything most humans long for.

[@tdavis2j]

This sounds like the latest pop sensation sweeping the Lonely Mountain, and I am 1,000% on board.

[@erikcarp9359]

tdavis2j 1,000% on beard you mean

[@unbelievablytrash9458]

@@erikcarp9359 Goddamed it, someone beat to the joke.

[@melleonard5726]

“Back in my day we had REAL music, not trashy pop like this” “Oh my Mahal, Adad, can’t you just enjoy something for once”

[@erikcarp9359]

Unbelievably Trash gotcha!

[@ClamaviDeProfundis]

"When the Hammer Falls" is an original song we wrote based on the dwarves from fantasy literature like that of J.R.R. Tolkien. We hope you enjoy it:) Please share the video!

[@emperorcharlemagne369]

Y'all are amazing.

[@ashers9680]

Amazing. Got chills.

[@JL-ti3us]

Guys; please start offering to do some work for fantasy video games and series... actually 😱now that I think about it, would you guys ever offer to help out Amazon with their new Lord of the rings series music???!!!

[@risa123456789]

Just incredible. So glad I found this channel way back...I can tell I'll be listening to this a lot, if an inspiration strikes again, do not hesitate to follow it, would love to hear more

[@ukaszpradzynski9073]

@Clamavi De Profundis This is Awesome. I think its match to all dwarves

[@Joe2YeshuaLG]

I can totally imagine Durin VII marching to reconquest Khazad-Dûm once and for all, as dwarven people unite under His banner with this song as their new anthem

[@vaultking9984]

This song gives me tingles every time. Love it! ROCK AND STONE!

[@TheSlamburger]

Rock and Stone, brother!

[@ventgoblin330]

ROCK AND STONE

[@dwarf2155]

ROCK AND STONE

[@coldtimber4972]

Rock and stone!

[@hlamarre1]

rockety rock and stone

[@bassrocks4419]

I was first introduced to Clamavi De Profundis through The Song of Durin. This dwarvish song has become its equal. I love Dwarves

[@mcbutteryqleplar5170]

SAME THOUGH BRO

[@Edatox]

@@mcbutteryqleplar5170 saaame I love lotr even more cuz of these songs

[@loganbravener3504]

I am a tall dwarf

[@noahdasilva7144]

Exactly the same for me too!

[@somedwarf1059]

@@loganbravener3504 you got a dwarven soul and thats what matters. Also, not the only tall dwarf I know :D

[@IronBridge1781]

Played this to my tortoise, he’s now a chunk of iron ore.

[@isitnotwrittenthat1680]

Make a hammer

[@sckrolik]

Played this to my midget friend Now he's forging an axe

[@MrSourFapple]

That poor tortoise.

[@princessstardusteclipse7270]

Right? My cockatiel is a griffin now!

[@Drengade]

That made my day

[@chesterclean]

I feel like I am in Dain lronfoot's army fighting for the arkenstone, Erebor, and for Thorin, the rightful king under the mountain.

[@noahthomson5256]

Why did I just grow a beard out of no where, and whats that axe and hammer doing in my closet.

[@mikaelbruun3414]

My beard grew 40 inches from listening to this. Edit: All these likes, cheers fellas. Stay dwarven!

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

And so your dwarven blood awakens. Welcome to your heritage, brother.

[@derekdurst9216]

I grew a beard

[@mikaelbruun3414]

I should probably start growing.

[@Prototype063]

@@mikaelbruun3414 No need just listen to the song 5 times it'll grow on its own

[@mikaelbruun3414]

@@Prototype063 Been listening non-stop all free time yesterday. Beard out of control. Please send help.

[@justafox5356]

It’s like a more serious Diggy Diggy Hole.

[@BloodlustLizzy]

Agreed

[@isitnotwrittenthat1680]

Someone.... someone actually DID make a serious cover of diggy diggy hole

[@americangamer2728]

The serious one is done by Wind Rose

[@michaelaparicio3738]

Boys: diggy diggy hole Men: WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS

[@cvernon5256]

I literally just came from there. Both are great if you need something upbeat and confident. They're great at driving off dark thoughts.

[@thechusenuan4521]

I'm 18 and I've been forging since I was 14, since i discovered this song whenever I forge I play it and gives me a 999% moral boost. I just love it

[@knightrogue5959]

Don't worry about those dislikes Clamavi De Profundi, they are just people who cant believe how amazing your song is!!!! Like how can you hate this, or they are probs orcs or goblins.

[@harbl99]

Bot dislikes. No one with a soul dislikes CDP.

[@knightrogue5959]

@@harbl99 I agree

[@williamhowells806]

The first time KZbin removing visible dislikes has made me happy

[@charlieseely3464]

Orks who need to get krumped for disliking CDP.

[@CollinMcLean]

Or very likely Silvan elves from Mirkwood...

[@belisauros370]

My neighbors loved this so much they threw a hammer through my window to hear it better

[@hassanalbaghalaf7485]

LMAO!!!!!!

[@henrypaleveda7760]

You mean they gave you a hammer as thanks for playing it.

[@booksandguns6997]

That a win win, better ventilation, and a new hammer

[@joeya7969]

@@booksandguns6997 and neighbors constantly throwing free stuff

[@ottovonbismarck7646]

*WHEN THE HAMMER FLIES!!!!*

[@spasjt]

This song. In the new LOTR series. First Age Dwarves marching to fight Melkor's armies. "When the hammer flies, Lines of armored Dwarves arise." EDIT: Nice that so many agree. Hopefully, producers take notice & make CDP collaborators for their music production!

[@Kobra39]

This is an excellent idea.

[@Haakenstad91]

Would be badass. But it's restricted to second age only.

[@_Woody_]

Can't be done...we need our villain for more than an episode

[@dovahclone2607]

Make KZbin Videos. I would watch

[@tris7794]

Would it be Melkor or Morgoth by that time? I'm sorry I haven't read the book so I wouldnt know..

[@justkindabored3731]

When the hammer falls And it hits my toe I'll scream like heck And will startle my foe

[@TheHeartlessHero]

*Gym Teacher* = okay, today we'll be playing dodgeball. *Me And The Bois* =

[@matteopellecchia5250]

Ah yes..... HAMMER TIME

[@elishaschoonover8914]

First volly! Aim! Fire! Second volly! Aim! Fire! *repeat*

[@TheHeartlessHero]

@@elishaschoonover8914 we lost many a 3rd graders...

[@elishaschoonover8914]

@@TheHeartlessHero Oof... I used to play dodgeball like an Elf. Dodge, duck, and weave.

[@TheHeartlessHero]

@@elishaschoonover8914 i was that kid who would try to dodge like I was in the matrix. It ever went as well as i imagined

[@rylanbovetsky932]

I suddenly want to march with a legion of dwarfs.

[@bewarethebear]

We all do mate

[@henrypaleveda7760]

it seems to me that teams of dwarves are good with things like fortification and most non combat tasks, but fewer dwarves are just as good as more dwarves in close quarters combat (i know that you'd still be wise to have more soldiers in an army than less, I just noticed that it doesn't take as many dwaarves to fight well or hold a defense).

[@AntonsVoice]

This is because dwarves need 2 things. Something to craft, something to fight.

[@matejcepel2912]

* laughs in balrog

[@karolszymanski1199]

Or a legion of Poles. Kind of same folk, but Poles don't mine and are a bit higher.

[@angelopueyygarcia43]

I don’t always listen to this song. But when I do, my neighbours does too.

[@driamhane]

lmaoo

[@Hermann139]

''The Orcs came to our land...'' got this line tattooed on my chest

[@aethertech]

Everyone else: diggy diggy hole. me, an intellectual: WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS!

[@DeadSomething]

there always has to be both types of songs for when everyone's too drunk to sing along with complicated lyrics.

[@Sweet_Blue4082]

Yeah I love both

[@SephirothRyu]

Born underground, when the hammer falls our victory shall sound!

[@ethannehring3355]

agreed

[@GKiernan01]

Both. Both is good

[@mayskrim5812]

Before: "I love elfs, they are the most powerful creatures in Middlearth" AFTER: " WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS, WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS!!!!"

[@whats_down]

I always loved the dwarf in Middelearth bekus they are expert crafters and wariors

[@ottovonbismarck7646]

*laughs in Dwarf*

[@morgothbauglir5186]

I think the elves and dwarvs are both really powerfull especially the Noldor elves because they worked metalls and their swords were the sharpest of all time

[@Adahleni]

Elves was more courageous, think about Fingolfin who went directly challenge Morgoth alone

[@1dan928]

@@Adahleni The House of Finwe itself is something like a National Epic. But that doesn't mean the entire Elven race

[@karanhdream]

I am a simple woman. I see a CDP notification. I click. Now I am drinking beer in an Inn and I grew a braided beard.

[@franianbonilla4051]

that so brutal, and epic

[@GonzaloDaveloza]

Now that's a dwarven beauty If I've ever seen one!

[@uxtalzon]

Pig-tailed female Dwarf beards are totally in fashion.

[@karanhdream]

@@GonzaloDaveloza Aw you 🥰

[@BloxEzio3]

Its okay to be Scandinavian, lass

[@whitewolf4910]

I didn't thought I will listen to it at 1 AM because of technical problems while making something for a school project. This song gives a lot of power!

[@adrikzayas3207]

Same

[@jahnukainen_8912]

LOTR and other Tolkiens works were my childhood, and dwarves were always my favorite. Probably because of that, this song feels so weirdly nostalgic :,-)

[@the13inquisitor59]

"Feh, Scolandier was bigger!" A howl from the dwarf followed the proclamation. "I fought Chaos Dragons! And lich-kings! I fought Greater Daemons and the gods themselves! I bled Be'lakor, the Prince Who Would be King, I crossed axes with Grimnir and walked away! I swore to die in battle, but outlived a world! Come, try me beast! Maybe you'll have better luck than every beast I've ever slain to now, maybe, we *both* will!" -Gotrek Gurneson.

[@AntonsVoice]

"You survived for an age? I'm the first born of the gods, made to sleep so the elves can look pretty as the first race to walk the world." - Durin the Deathless.

[@the13inquisitor59]

@@AntonsVoice I highly recommend checking out Realmslayer. Or just Gotrek and Felix in general. That Slayer would do Durin proud.

[@mattaffenit9898]

@@the13inquisitor59 How 'bout Belegar... Wait, no, need to say it right... How about *_BELEGAR IRONHAMMER OF CLAN ANGRUND, TRUE KING OF KARAK EIGHT-PEAKS, SLAYER OF URK AND THAGURAKI, FRIEND TO THOSE UMGI AND DAWI WHO WOULD SEEK GLORY IN THE DEEP, TERROR OF THE HORRORS THAT DWELL BELOW!!!!!!_*

[@the13inquisitor59]

@@mattaffenit9898 I was quoting from Realmslayer, but good to see the Dawi getting their due in the comments all the same.

[@alexradford5446]

loved that audiodrama!

[@ericward8459]

Foes flee! Friends take heart! The Sons of Durin March to war!!!

[@unbelievablytrash9458]

Khazad ai menu!

[@David-pz4ly]

MAHAKAM!

[@spaghetii5337]

Barák kazud!

[@kenobi5230]

Du Bekar!!

[@madness8897]

@@David-pz4ly wrong universe but just as good.

[@TheHeartlessHero]

*Brings A Mallet To A Hammer Fight* *Dwarf* = Who brought the outsider?

[@atrilliontrifles1873]

is an axe ok?

[@TheHeartlessHero]

- Dwarf = We can talk

[@Feanor6450]

You need at least a 40 kg sledgehammer

[@ronaldthompson4989]

@@Feanor6450 i regret only having a 3lb on hand

[@themedievalmask]

J.R.R. Tolkien would be so proud of your songs!You literally brought Durin back to life!!😍🙃

[@dominiczajac2310]

The drums in this are amazing in complementing your voices. Another beautiful piece of work!

[@sully9767]

If you think about it. The hammer is a symbol of all dwarfdom. The hammer is a miner's friend, forger's tool and a warrior's weapon. It is strong and swift. There is no justice nor mercy, only the hammer. It is the earth purified and made stronger. Loud and proud, strong and powerful. It is a dwarf by all metrics of dwarvishness. The hammer and the dwarf are one and the same, an extension of each other. The hammer both represents the dwarf and **is** the dwarf. EDIT: thank y'all for the likes and interactions. It's a pleasure to put forth my ideas about Tolkiendom. Baruk khazad, my friends, khazad ai menu!

[@dragoncatgaming5481]

Wow, I didn't ever think of it like that...

[@tonyaxis3063]

Pretty sure you went full Klingon there friend.

[@kiliansimak2699]

That, was *deep*

[@theatricaldragon9766]

When the philosopher gets drunk at the book club meeting

[@sully9767]

@@dioneaparecidadanadana8243 Yeah. The sword is best for enemies with poor/no armour. But for say Orcs or Elves who are covered in the stuff? A hammer, every time.

[@hectortheforgetful103]

3:26 That could be the story of a fighting smith that even with his hammer broken he kept fighting the orcish menance

[@troisesesepetitpain2668]

When you will grow up, you'll realise that it's not he beard that makes the adult

[@fisch37]

But the hammer?

[@AlexandreJWKlaus]

it is the hard spirit willing to fight in their perfect armour

[@gustavobatto1070]

The beard makes the dwarf

[@bobbybarnard5589]

Sometimes KZbin recommends gets it just right... this is one of those times. Also the guy digging a trench in his garden was great too

[@RYZE_Reborn]

Do we have the Same recommendations

[@angryvaultguy]

Americans: the trees are speaking Vietnamese Russians: the snow is speaking Finnish Orcs: the falling hammers are speaking dwarven

[@isitnotwrittenthat1680]

Germans: the snow is swearing in Russian

[@walkingwater548]

The soup is speaking Chinese

[@ghjkl816]

Germans : the poising gaz is speaking russian

[@METALGEARMATRIX]

"Grog... Hear dat?" "Nup." Grog says, running a hulking hand across his sweaty brow. "Kant ere nuttin." "Grog.... das stone talk?" Grog begins to wimper. "Why rocks speakin' dwarf?" That was the final words Grog ever heard.

[@a_pirate1434]

Khuzdul for all you Tolkien nerds out there

[@Drengade]

When the hammer falls And it sounds through the walls When the hammer falls And 'shut up' the neighbour calls When the hammer strikes And noise complaint calls spike When the hammer pounds And in the SWAT team bounds When the hammer falls! When the hammer falls!

[@reaper5832]

When the hammer falls i am sent to jail till the fall When the hammer falls my balls hit the wall When the hammer falls my screams fill the halls

[@asepheleleshabalala1352]

I read these lyrics on the Imperium Ascendant story and I'd never heard this song, and it literally sounded exactly like this in my head when I gave it a tune. That's what I call excellent writing.

[@WestCoastEnclave]

Another masterpiece after "Song of Durin", keep going bro🤙🏼

[@francescosirotti8178]

Lets not forget "The lament for Boromir", "The lament for the Rohirrim", "The King beneath the mountain", "The song of Beren and Luthien", "The Ent and the Ent-Wife".... They have many masterpiece-level songs!

[@CptMacTavish-sg7hj]

Is there literally a single song of theirs that isn't masterpiece level?

[@nordithen]

It's amazing how well you pull off both the deep Dwarven sound and the high, beautiful Elvish poetry. I'd love to see you do another song based on portions of the Lay of Leithian.

[@RosseRue]

Do you mean Luthien? If so, they already have. It's awesome.

[@nordithen]

@@RosseRue Actually, I meant what I said. _The Lay of Leithian,_ translated "Release from Bondage" is a 4223-line poem that J.R.R. Tolkien wrote telling the story of Lúthien Tinúviel. The sections of verse on pages 206 and 216 of _The Silmarillion_ are quotes from _The Lay of Leithian._ There are much longer excerpts from this poem in the book _Beren and Lúthien_ recently edited and published by Christopher Tolkien. I definitely recommend it if you would enjoy reading the story in verse rather than the condensed prose version given in _The Silmarillion._ Unless there was something else I am unaware of, this book is the first time we get to see more of Tolkien's original writing about Beren and Lúthien than was given in the Sil.

[@nordithen]

@@RosseRue But yes, it is awesome. I'm just saying there's loads more material out there they can work with.

[@RosseRue]

@@nordithen Oh, right. I misread the another part. As in, another song, not what you meant by another song about Luthien. Sorry.

[@WilliamSmith-ev4kh]

@@RosseRue not kidding I thought he severely misspelled lady of lothlorien I probably misspelled it

[@ScooterTheMightyMinion]

I've always been fond of Dwarves, especially playing them. I'm so happy there is a group out there willing to show them respect. Thank you for the wonderful song.

[@natedorney7032]

This makes me yearn for carven halls of ancient stone and the field of battle in days of yore

[@matthewcalleja265]

Tolkien himself could have wrote this! The lyrics are so Tolkien-esque. Another brilliant composition that would have woken During himself!

[@_Woody_]

Indeed good friend

[@alfonsolm2219]

And my hammer.

[@Sintorias]

Tolkien wrote this =)

[@_Woody_]

@@Sintorias No actually he did not 😁

[@matthewcalleja265]

@@Sintorias this was written by clamavi de profundis actually....brilliant lyrics

[@chadsmith8966]

Majestic. Feels as though I'm sitting in a tavern within the hall under the Lonely Mountain.

[@dexterorvill4157]

Encouraging, especially in the face of LotR RoP (or rather RiP) release. Thank you all for keeping the spirit of Professor's work alive

[@wesleylill6318]

Honestly, Rings of Power is the first Tolkien adaptation to properly portray the glory of the Dwarves. No longer are they cheap comic relief, relegated only to being clumsy, stupid, half-witted folk like in previous works, but here they are a glorious, mighty, and honorable race. Seeing Khazad-Dum at its height is more than worth the price of admission.

[@dexterorvill4157]

@@wesleylill6318 That's right, now they gave them scottish accents too and slapped some nice looking CGI of - I have to admit - proper dwarven city. Oh yeah, and they are black too. UNDERGROUND CREATURES BLACK XDXDXDXDXDXDXD

[@wesleylill6318]

@@dexterorvill4157 Actually, no, almost all of Khazad-Dum is an actual set, there's very little CGI. "It's only a model", as they say in Monty Python.

[@mollymauktealeaf]

@@dexterorvill4157 afaik Middle Earth is a pretty firmly creationist setting so how a given creature might realistically evolve is fully irrelevant?

[@dexterorvill4157]

@@mollymauktealeaf That's actually true, good point. But tell me- why even trying to defend this clusterfuck that rings of amazon is?