When The Wolf Howls

[@torrarosa7064]

This is probably one of the more underrated channels of its kind on KZbin. Great research and superb storytelling, Mr. Jeff Thomas. Cheers

[@associationoflifelonglearn3593]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@katharper655]

You are NOT wrong! I used to chase Ric Mixter all over YT. .but I was looking for more than Edmund Fitzgerald. I FOUND IT WITH JEFF. And I've been hooked ever since.

[@jayharr6250]

Excellent presentation! I truly appreciate what you have done to help educate as well as entertain people like myself on the shipwrecks and history of the Great Lakes who otherwise would not have access to such stories. I was born & raised in the deep south, far from the great lakes, but i have always had a deep passion & fascination with maritime history & shipwrecks ( dont ask me how). I truly appreciate your time in presenting this interesting & storied history that is unknown to most people who live outside the Great Lakes region. Its a true treasure.

[@tammydempsey3304]

Thank you for sharing this with us it's so awesome to learn from history lesson I truly enjoyed watching your pod cast keep up your awesome work thanks

[@katharper655]

I have watched every available video on the Great Lakes shipwrecks...this guy is by far my favourite. I could-and HAVE-listened/watched every video he's made. A darn fine speaker!!

[@Brunzy1970]

You really knocked it out of the park with your presentation of this complex material. THANK-YOU very much!

[@Niftynorm1]

Very interesting and well done presentation.

[@clairewyndham1971]

I have lived almost all my life here on Superior. Until you have witnessed, heard and trembled during one of the November gales, you haven't experienced true terror. I honestly have felt several times in my life that i was going to have my home pulled into the lake and I would drown. Lake Superior has a soul dark and mean. This lake can go from a calm day to screaming like an Irish Banshee in less than 6 hours. But, I wouldnt trade it for anything or any where else.

[@charliekezza]

❤❤❤ just found you yesterday, subbed immediately and currently bingeing all your vids

[@katharper655]

THAT is pretty much the reaction this channel gets when-certainly NOT with any recommendations from YT-a lover of Maritime Lore literally FALLS OVER their first Jeff Thomas lecture: HUNGRY FOR MORE!!

[@jonhiggins2012]

Yes! So stoked to listen. I have notifications turned on for this channel. You're a super good speaker, and I'm slowly getting more and more interested in maritime/great lakes stuff.

[@mjanovec]

Excellent presentation. However, what the speaker refers to as Wisconsin Point is actually Minnesota Point. Wisconsin Point is the section further to the south, across the natural entry through the sandbar. You can see the border between Wisconsin and Minnesota on the map.

[@geofffullerton8880]

Excellent presentation, I don't find a lot of properly source and researched presentations on KZbin, especially on topics like the history of shipping in the Great Lakes. Please keep it up!

[@dabluesgarage]

Good video SS Umbria, J. B. Ford's sistership from Cleveland, Ohio shown at the 41:34 mark. The SS Umbria made news again in 1959 as the MacGilvray Shiras, when she broke free from Concrete Central Grain Elevator in Buffalo and crashed into the Tewksbury then bringing down the Michigan Ave lift bridge. Good the J. B. Ford at the 49:08 mark.

[@johnengland8619]

Thanks for the content, excellent narration

[@sleepygrumpy]

Excellent talk -- great storytelling

[@gregorylyon1004]

Well in my opinion, the Titanic of Great Lakes shipwrecks is not the Fitzgerald. The James C. Caruthers is the real mystery. It went down with all hands on lake Huron during the storm of 1913. Brand new boat on it's 3rd voyage. 550 ft long. 58 ft beam. Never found in 110 years. It was the biggest ship ever constructed for the great lakes when it went down.

[@joshuamay1979]

Great video. Had never heard of the 1905 storm. The photo that you have of Captain Thomas Hunter is a photo of J.P.Morgan.

[@jerilynpurkey8745]

I don’t understand the Caption Honner that he’s talking about but he showing a picture of J.P. Morgan who canceled his trip on the Titanic and later in life died in Rome on March 31, 1913

[@stephentaege6255]

Wow if this isnt One of most interesting informative documemtrys ill eat hat 🤠 well done 👍 cheers stevo 🍀🍀🍀🍀

[@johnrogers1661]

Thank you so much for your knowledge and wit! Moving to the UP and I’m trying to learn everything!

[@erbewayne6868]

I worked at a building in Pennsylvania and one of the residents was a friend of the captain/owner of the Edna G 's granddaughter . She talked about riding on the tug with her friend.

[@Raellives]

How wide a distance at the two piers in Duluth?

[@fliparkulary]

Isn’t it called Minnesota Point?

[@dougs184]

Thanks , for a great and very informative presentation,. If they would have taught stuff like this in school, I may have actually showed up (LOL) and paid attention.

[@danzmitrovich6250]

Ocean city inlet in Maryland and Indian river inlet in delaware state you can always get big water and rough waves as well and there is a bunch of ship wrecks around Ocean city maryland and delaware waters as well

[@tammydempsey3304]

Which of the three stroms had the most deaths and the most cost of damage to this time of money wise

[@gregorylyon1004]

The storm of 1913 is the King of Great Lakes storms. We lost 12 boats with all hands in this storm. 8 of the boats were lost on Lake Huron alone. It was called a white out. This particular storm was so powerful, I still don't understand it. The only boats to survive either didn't leave port, or ran for the beach in an effort to save the boat. The boats out in open water all went down to my knowledge. And not one sailor survived to tell us anything

[@teresalukach6509]

I did not know this about the Edna G. ❤️

[@petemclean1352]

Having seen the lake get nasty in November. (From the safety of shore, Thunder Bay and Terrace Bay areas) The best way I could describe Lake Superior during November storms. Would be like putting an outboard, in a bathtub, opening up the throttle, then letting the tiller slap back and fourth uncontrolled. Waves come from every direction, wind constantly shifts from NE to a NW direction. Its nasty, and unforgiving. I wouldn't be caught dead out on Superior in November, regardless of the vessel size. The power of that lake is humbling.

[@nickygetty6056]

Let me guess…you’re a history teacher??? If there were more like you, more people would enjoy history! I was lucky! I had one like you! Truly enjoy your lectures! Thank you! I have watched all your series, just cause it’s entertaining and enlightening! I do have a question about the tugs pulling the freighters. How long, or far, did the freighters have to be tugged? I’m a little confused about that.

[@fatovamingus]

What happened to the Mataafa just breaks your heart. I wonder why you haven't done more lectures for instance I would like to hear an hour and a half on every single freighter. I'm not joking either!! People will do these little 20 minutes stories about this storm or that storm and then I put all these comments about coming to listen to you. Here's hoping for more!

[@copperheadmarine]

I'm from Wawa, Michipicotten Harbor, we always say" we are from the back of the dog's head" but the wolf's head works too.

[@KevinCerovich]

I’m sure someone thought of it and/or the 25’ waves prohibited it, but if the Matafa were only 30 yards from the pier, couldn’t the life savers have gone out on that to fire the line?

[@NickFortier]

Subbed, learnings fun :)

[@clairewyndham1971]

Which storm was worse, death and destruction wise- 1905 0r 1913?

[@gregorylyon1004]

1913 in my opinion

[@user-db2fb1db1m]

Yep

[@MikeHunt-fo3ow]

did anyone make a movie about this?

[@charliekezza]

Life savers and the coast guard never get the recognition that they should

[@Somewhere_In_The_Barn]

I'm sure my first instinct would be to drink myself insensible, then look for farmland as far from the lakes as humanly possible.

[@carlbrown273]

3:14am I'm relatively sure that was a picture of JP Morgan and not the captain of one of those ships. Unless I'm confused about the presentation or got something mixed up.

[@user-db2fb1db1m]

Dump’s Barley- turns lake to Beer 🍺

[@mattskustomkreations]

35:07. That’s famous (infamous?) financier J.P. Morgan, NOT Capt. Honner.

[@MikeHunt-fo3ow]

wood floats steel sinks.....but with steel u dont have to worry about beavers munching on your hull

[@Liddledriver]

It is clear that most of these stories, have one common denominator, the greed of the shipping companies who all knew they were sending men to potential death each November yet to my knowledge there were never Senate hearings regarding these needless losses for profit. The loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald in the early 70's show nothing had changed since 1905.

[@gregorylyon1004]

The Edmund Fitzgerald sank because of negligence. But yes, Greedy ship owners were pushing captains to take huge risks. The Fitzgerald's captain was just as greedy as the boats owners. He was 63 years old and trying to fill his cash pot for retirement. Mc Sorely was working his last season before he retired. So he ran that boat to the bottom of the lake.

[@iandeeightiesman]

Captain Thomas Honner sure looks like J P Morgan.

[@pastorofmuppets2349]

Captain Honner looks a lot like J.P. Morgan.

[@GregJay]

Run into by another ship, if it wasn't so tragic it would be an SNL episode, humans are so destructive and dumb, we destroy everything we touch ,

[@jackdaniels2882]

Sadly due to greed mostly we will be our own demise.

[@henrysantos121]

*Matatan (".®.") Ribirin H-S*

[@mplsyrp2]

It's Minnesota point up to the natural entrance close to Superior, WI. And Wisconsin point from the natural entrance to Wisconsin. Poor research, certainly by someone allegedly familiar with the area. Did you not say: "I have sailed this area?"Right off the bat, a fairly major error to make. I would hate being aboard a ship you were navigating. If with a static ap in front of you, you are 6 and 4 miles off on location. Close to shore that can be a deadly error.

[@Miguel_and_The_Microbes]

Bro. It's wreak havoc. Not wreck havoc. Did u fail 7th grade? Jerez. Cmon!!!!🎉