When to Compound vs Polish vs Clay

This is a quick video explanation in response to an increase in emails all pertaining to a single or related question.
"When should I just polish my paint instead of compounding...OR should I simply clay my paint?" This is an actual question I received, so I thought I would shoot a video to kind of give a better idea of how these different processes work together, YET are very different. Hope this clears up a bit of confusion. (However, this video is very basic and much more sophisticated techniques can be used and "rules" I talk about can be bent in more advanced scenarios.) This car is a Honda Fit.
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[@Shaunoconnor711]

Thank you! I've gone from a sponge and bucket user to someone with a room full of detailing gear and half an ounce of knowledge! Another very good video!

[@daniel.pendzich]

Hey same here, this past month I've been going crazy trying to properly detail my car. It's driving me nuts, but I'm having fun learning and doing.

[@berengerchristy6256]

it's nice when you're done though, and your car is so nice and shiny and smooth. then you go to work the next day and there's already all the dust in the world on it

[@tevonboyd93]

Right i use to call it a day once i sprayed water used some soap and dried it(using a regular towel at that) learned alot from these vids

[@mlpputo1732]

Shaun O'Connor Same!

[@urabusliberty9258]

Shaun O'Connor same I went from one bucket dish soap sponge air drying to detailing

[@FarFromAlegend]

Finally he works on a normal car

[@TheCamaro5]

the stuff he does can be done on any newer car.

[@Rustyybucket]

@TheCamaro5 thats not really his point

[@deasttn]

I thought the same thing, too. I liked his other video where he washed his wife's Subaru.

[@it.is.adnankhan]

mike hunt

[@Lincolnator721]

or average, as I'd say... lol.

[@widowmaker777]

Who else would enjoy watching that 5 hour video?

[@NicholasG28]

Thanks for all the hard work you do for us Larry. We all appreciate it!

[@nspinicelli]

Hey man, respect. Clear info at a great pace, and didn't push a particular product, just the concept. A rare thing I think, got the feelign you're doing this to actually help people and not push anything.

[@steverabbits]

Larry your videos are great, what bothers me (and it's on many, many other detailing videos too) is the inaccurate and sometimes 'dangerous to your paint' info and 'advice' given out by others in the comments section. One of your commenters claimed that clay barring and compounding do the 'exact same job'! They do not guys! Don't clay your car every few weeks, it WILL scratch your paint, as Larry says, do it rarely like going to the Emergency Room (A&E here in the UK). Simply put, if you are going to compound and polish your car then ALWAYS clay it beforehand and if you are going to clay your car (because the surface feels rough as *****) then be prepared to compound and polish it afterwards to remove the scratches you will have just put into the clearcoat (another correct terminology issue, it's clearcoat we are compounding, polishing, cleaning and protecting NOT paint!) If you get paint colour on any of your pads, microfibres etc then I'm afraid you have a serious issue on your hands! Unless you have a classic car from pre-clearcoat era car painting of course. If you are going to compound and polish your car make sure it is COMPLETELY clean, use chemical decontamination at some stage (fallout remover, APC, citrus degreaser, tar spot removers etc- whichever ones float your boat) as well as mechanical decontamination (clay barring) and use a panel wipe each time before compounding or polishing to remove any excess residue from claying or any previous products used. Good luck guys! (Maybe practice on an old hood/bonnet from a breaker yard!)

[@lockergr]

That's a good idea. I was just saying there needs to be like a one-day course that you can sign up for where you learn how to do these things properly for your vehicle so you're not having to pay each time to have it done by someone else. I know I won't get as good of results but I feel like at this point I just need to hand Compound and polish.

[@auroradrp]

This video was most instructional. I’ve been wondering if I had redundantly bought the same products, but I now have a clearer picture of how they work in unison to create the perfect paint look. Thanks again Larry

[@thesillyhatday]

This video has answered a few burning questions I had. I thought I had figured them out for myself, but wasn't sure if I'd come to the right conclusion. As much as I love seeing fancy cars being worked on, it's a breath of fresh air to see some back to basics videos.

[@OldSchool9690]

I never thought of claying while washing with soap..seems super efficient

[@moatazbahramantar6976]

larry your channel is very helpful , i have learned alot KEEP UP

[@joevanseeters2873]

Thanks for another awesome video Larry. You give the best possible explanation of the differences between polishing and compounding and the neccesity of compounding to remove scratches and restoring the paint finish followed by polishing to refine the surface and deepen and bring out the shine/gloss. You really bring these sometimes difficult to understand topics to the masses so everyone has a good understanding.

[@macs2015]

Larry! I've been using your techniques and products recently and the results are unreal! Thank you!

[@charlottebatchelder93]

Correct order would be ....wash.....clay.....compound....polish.....wax?

[@AMMO-NYC]

yup!

[@assasin0804]

+AMMO NYC since I don't have the tools to polish and compound, is it fine if I wash, clay, and then wax. Would that help make it a bit smoother and shinier?

[@TJC450]

The clay will def make it smoother. Not sure on shinier. If you want shinier you're gonna have to probably compound and polish.

[@shavinmccrotch9435]

Clay bars or compound, not before, not after, not with. They do the same exact thing- remove a thin layer of paint, along with dirt & grime. Compound is easier and faster with an orbital polisher.

[@okashaqadir]

I have not enough products so can I wash then compound and wax later to remove haze of compound

[@LastHumansGarage]

i really like that method of using clay while you are washing with soap. saves a lot of time i suppose.

[@hulluhomer2]

Im pretty sure he first washed and rinsed the car and then used the remaining clean soapy water with the claybar. Claying before properly washing would not be good.

[@LastHumansGarage]

very good point. i should have thought of that.

[@hobo101101101]

Soapy water will ruin the clay bar, but it's much faster to do it this way.

[@AMMO-NYC]

Correct

[@AMMO-NYC]

It will only ruin the bar IF you do not wash it in clean water afterwards

[@shaneteague1023]

Went back to this video when I couldn't figure out how far to go with getting "swirls" out. Larry always clarifies the issues. Thanks again. Keep it up

[@slimcharles5856]

Great upload, thank-you for breaking down the basics, as so many people I've talked to have in some way compromised, what I had previously been informed.

[@edgarelias916]

Good job brother. May God keep blessing. You have great talent.

[@AMMO-NYC]

Thanks!

[@charleslunsford4057]

Correct procedure? (Assuming the car needs all steps) Wash & Dry, Clay bar & dry, Compound, Polish, Wax?

[@NikosPer]

i have the same question...probably yes

[@vincentvalentine9417]

that's only assuming your car needs it. So you need to look at your paint and see if it needs a compound and polish. but yes.

[@Lincolnator721]

i like cars without clearcoat, clearcoat is a pain...

[@RicardoGomez-mq5fb]

Wasn't he claying while washing? I think I read a comment somewhere that said "good idea of washing and claying; saves you time!". Is that so?

[@mobiledetail4you]

You got it!

[@himahimahima100able]

Man I have been learning from you for about a year,when ever I have an issue for my car I return to your videos and I find the solution. This video made me really understand a lot and as a result my car is still shiny clean since my last work on it last weekend :)

[@DukeForeigner]

This is BY FAR the most informative recording I’ve come across on this topic. Well done and thank you

[@liliugljevik]

I don't know about you guys, but every time I wash my car few hours later the rain has to fall. Every frikin time :)

[@ELEVOPR]

Photo Therapeut LOL, It always happens to me :o/

[@pobster88j94]

OMG me too! I think of washing my car as a rain dance. If you are experiencing a drought, call me to come wash my car in the area and I promise, it will rain within hours.

[@GiotheGhreat]

yeap yeap

[@wernercollins1319]

i tell people the same thing.

[@wernercollins1319]

or the road to work on a monday just happens to be flooded with red dirt

[@benwils0n]

I don't even wash my car and I find your videos interesting 😂

[@AMMO-NYC]

Thats the best compliment. Thank you!

[@grantaran580]

Ikr😂

[@micahjaso2613]

+Charles Wellington lll no way

[@urosdjordjevic6060]

Thank you Larry, not only for what you thought and still teching me about deatiling a car, but teaching us something that few people can , and its your way of laerning and understanding things (especialy in ATA series with Kevin ) and convey it on video to us, its what you call your nerdines, thanks , keep being great at what you do

[@latinwarrior6182]

Thank you for taking the time to explain the difference between compounding, polishing etc. .great videos!

[@mikesommers9557]

is "compoud" the same thing as ""scratch remover", there are so many different products that it gets confusing.

[@Darkhunter218]

The one I have is a compound + polish, you need to use a wax or a wash + wax after buffing it all off

[@Voltermort]

Hood looked increddddible after both compound + polish. Think that removed a lot of clear coat?

[@TheEnergyball]

Great answer! Thanks I've been confused about all the products so having the order according to abrasiveness and purpose has been really helpful!!

[@docshocker]

Your eight minute video just explained what ive always wondered my whole life and explains why ive never acheived happiness with my hard labour-i was doing it all wrong! Driven black pickups for 25 years and couldnt ever make them look the way i wanted and after watching this video I now know what works and what doesn't. Im very fussy about my vehicles and how they look. Thank you! Cheers. Mike

[@xwhels]

3:47 i was like what the hell is that a t rex !!! But he answered as if he was listening.

[@khalidalnajjar1558]

3:56 Larry clearly have had enough with this train crap lol

[@abersaw7373]

Khalid AlNajjar :D

[@philc8620]

Finally a great video explaining and showing what steps you need for your car to look good. Awesome job and thanks.

[@shahhassan6210]

I never commented on any video, but this made me write, most detailed, informative, and explained video ever. Good work.

[@richardsarmiento1277]

How long did it take you to compound and polish the Honda Fit?

[@CaptainCocaine]

So basically wash, then clay, then compound, then polish. I guess you would wax or seal after that?

[@deasttn]

That's what I've always been told is the sensible procedure.

[@Z0neDrift]

Compounding and/or polishing takes off any wax and sealant on the paint, so definitely wax/seal afterwards.

[@tonymanero5544]

If you need to do all that, your paint is in pretty bad shape or you have a clunker.

[@mrmizzarcus]

More regular car detailing videos like this please! :) I detail cars like this every day and I learn so much from watching you

[@gianluca3069]

FINALLY THE ANSWERE FOR THE QUESTION OF MY LIFE. Larry you are the best .That's it!

[@vanakornsirijongprasert1726]

It's been too long Larry!

[@BMTVx]

Last time I was this early UK was in the EU.

[@jakegwilliam]

Wow, what an original comment! Never seen that one before!

[@FishFind3000]

Can you not think of your own comment? It's old already.

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

are you that famous comedian?

[@ScottPC]

We still are in the EU....

[@ExciteLetsPlay]

they are in the eu for at least 2 years

[@justinholmes5614]

Very helpful. Just bought a used Honda in this colour and the paint is covered in swirl marks. So nice to the results on my colour, gives me hope.

[@addisongranger]

Hey Larry, I just want to say how much I love your videos!! I wouldn't have had near enough confidence to start my own detailing business if it weren't for you. Keep it up!! Hey, how about a video comparing wax vs. sealant vs. ceramic coating?

[@MrAndyS]

So I use the polish first then compound on a microfibre sponge then shine and glaze it with the clay

[@jeremybarker6054]

You forgot to wax it first... wax, polish, compound, clay, leave in sun to bake, then wash at high noon in the sun...

[@joemeliton]

Last and Final step: Sand with 60 grit sandpaper!

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

Jeremy Barker Been doing it like this since day one!

[@thingshappen9199]

wow not sure if the op is serious or not.

[@richardwatts20]

he's absolutely not mate

[@Lincolnator721]

My first impression when I see rock chips on a car's front end, is that the driver is a tailgater.

[@xtina818]

Lincolnator the fits paint is thin. looking at it chips it. Honda really dropped the ball on the paint.

[@Lincolnator721]

Xtina K oh, that reminds me... The 2013 Ford Explorer does the same thing in the front end, not cheap to have a shop fix it

[@xtina818]

My fit is a '12. The hood is being repainted in the spring.

[@Lincolnator721]

Xtina K cool car though, I like little cars, but I'll take a land yacht any day too

[@thegriz2270]

Or they live on gravel

[@chinicuilyuyin]

Great video as always, finally an "every man" car, nice to see how restore paint in a common vehicle, not just in sports cars. Thank you for the tips & concepts you always work on your videos.

[@robertcurtis6209]

Thanks, that makes perfect sense. The key distinction made between compound and polish just before the half way point was worth listening to this alone. Great video 👌

[@kennethsiddall5353]

my wife's care is about 6 years old and has only been washed. I was going to do clay bar (it needs it) then compound, then use touch up paint for the areas that didn't come out with compound. After touch up paint dried, I was going to use polish to get it to pop and in theory to help blend in the touch up paint, and last add a wax. And I on the right track? Will these steps bring it back to a new like state?

[@IXIslimjimIXI]

Polish might take off the touch up paint. Id polish first then touch up and seal it with sealer or wax.

[@losojosdehotspanish2162]

Kenneth Siddall what about the clear coat step

[@Harzman01]

Lets say the paint is brand new. What do I do to keep it looking that way? Since polishing and compounding is not needed. Do I just wax? Whats the difference between wax and sealing

[@artagain8977]

Same here. I have a brand new truck that doesn't need compounding. I usually wash it then apply a pure carnauba paste wax. Wish I could find an as good alternative since applying and removing the wax by hand is a pain in the ass. There must be machine type waxes out there.

[@Patrick94GSR]

Pretty much every new car needs some level of paint correction straight out of the dealership lot. No new cars come out with perfect paint.

[@Harzman01]

Patrick94GSR Ok lets put it this way. I just repainted my car. Done the paint correction and all. What about after that? like, maintenance if no correction is needed.

[@littlerhino2006]

+Harzman01 Ultimate protection would be a 3M clear bra, they're ridiculously expensive though. Second would be a 'nano' coating topped with sealant then wax. Tertiary to that would be a sealant topped with a carnauba wax and last would be just a carnauba or whatever is mixed in with a soap. All these products do is add layers of procreation to the clear coat, which is a protector in of its self. Wax and sealants can be applied by a machine with an extremely soft pad at low speed. The goal being not to be abrasive but to just make sure the product makes into the microscopic crevices left even by the most refined polish. Speed should be kept low to minimize heat build up so the product doesn't breakdown before it even sees the sun.

[@littlerhino2006]

+Harzman01 but like +Patrick94GSR mentioned even a new vehicle will need some paint correction before adding a bunch of layers of protection. You would be mortified to see how they washed new vehicles at dealerships I've worked at. Mud covered truck followed by a brand new Hellcat, with the same shitty brush 😑

[@lukesmith5166]

finally someone who knows how to explain the difference and show the difference. great illustration on capturing it on camera . I learned a lot from your video. thanks

[@clsutherland331]

I've been washing my cars wrong for years. Thanks for all your videos!!! It seems counterintuitive to spray a product while you're trying to dry your wet car but it works so well. Spent 5 hours detailing the outside of my black Audi A8L and it looked like black glass. Thanks again. And don't apologize for repeating (driving home) those reminders in other videos. That's how people learn...repetition for emphasis.

[@bencezsigardi3349]

Sorry but "why you wanna polish your car..is it a showcar?" Is nit nice to say.. you dont need a million dolar car and not the car price makes you care about your car. If someone likes a fiat multipla he can care about it as much as a ferrari or a "show car" owner (who actually cares so much about his car that he have to pay someone rather than taking his time) so please dont be stupid...for someone like me an 1500$ golf mk3 worth the effort too :) A proud mk3 owner :)

[@AMMO-NYC]

I asked that question so you can evaluate what you want to accomplish. Are you removing some scratches, are you competing in a car show, are you trying to win the concours D'elegance, etc. that's all. It doesn't matter if it's a $1,000 car or $1,000,000 you just need to have a goal in mind so you know how much work you have ahead of you and what process it will require to achieve your goal. Hope that clarifies it.

[@NotAdamSnider]

Some people like to take good care of their things.

[@Kholdstare0503]

Why... Why polish a turd

[@freakauz]

One mans trash is another mans treasure.

[@volundrfrey896]

Even when it's a turd a good wash will bump up the price a fair bit. So if you want to sell a car like this it's a good idea to give it a good wash. Perhaps you don't have one. But I bet someone in your immediate family or circle of friends do.

[@AMMO-NYC]

Because my friend is awesome.

[@SoulCharter]

Everyone is entitled to their own car preference. Everyone is allowed to love and care for their car. I could ask why someone who sounds like a turd is allowed to comment.

[@spooler7828]

Yeap, good friends are hard to come by. I will go the extra mile for mine also.

[@SpeedDemonS7]

I've learned so much from you guys.....my 12 year old raven black escalade had been abused by the previous owner. ...but since this channel and many trials, errors and time, my ride looks incredible and I brag.....oh yes...I brag

[@TOXICPR0DUCTIONZ]

Thanks for this video Larry. Although I have an extensive knowledge of this topic and many others, my customers do not. I will use this video as a tool so they can have an easier introduction into detailing lingo and understand what I'm talking about when I'm recommending services. Great work as always.

[@rickerd83]

thanks a lot!! I got a new car last week and at least I know now it needs to be compounded. I love watching your videos

[@j.m.bonilla6446]

your instructions are clear, concise and relevant, truly enjoy your videos

[@vesperv.9458]

thank you for your explanation about car detailing. it really help

[@Dennis-wi6nn]

I've been searching for info on detailing as I'm a newb and I found your videos. Really like how you explain things. You don't sound like an infomercial and give real world advice. Keep on making good videos. I'm gonna go beat my head against the wall cause I can't figure out what regiment to use for washing, paint sealing, waxing, glass...Oh and then there's the interior...

[@lhodge101]

Great vid Larry! I get the whole terminology thing, so often I'm out waxing or freshening the sealant on my car and people say I'll wear the paint out! Know your products and understand why you need them not just cos you herd about them

[@shoaib1029]

Welcome back! Good to see your new video.

[@gordonjeffrey231076]

Super video Larry. Thnx for making a clear and concise video. All I need to do now is pluck up the courage to compound and polish on my Alfa 159. And it's black 😱😱😱

[@davidpfoff7281]

Best information I’ve gotten so far. You explained it very well thank you

[@Bigrell0326]

JUST LOVE THE CHANNEL!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I am really wanting to up my game, thanks for doing basic videos. Thought I was good found I’m only fair, but I learn fast.

[@AlexandreLollini]

Thank you very much for this video, in fact I was mismatching polish and compound, now i understand that compound is for deeper marks, while polish is for very fine halo and compounding veil removal.

[@autoshinetabasco2530]

Great and clear way to make this point Larry (polish vs compounding). Keep uploading these great videos!! best regards

[@chrismay1a]

youtube has taught me so much about detailing cars. thanks to kind people like you its a shame I cant use any of it in real life... could get a job at a dealership for min wage but they do the opposite of everything you say to do.. its all about speed to them... tried running my own business did well but my truck broke down and I couldn't afford to fix it and I am not able to detail at my place anymore

[@chrismay1a]

yeah right I live in bc Canada and it rains all the time here which is what stopped me from being more successful.

[@micsub]

Another very instructive video. Loud & Clear !

[@DJ-vw6ov]

Planes, trains, and automobiles. Thank you for the great information. I've learned a lot from your videos.

[@shanedizzle24]

This was super helpful and thank you!! I've been trying to figure this stuff out and that video was awesome. Cheers!

[@akaredcrossbow]

If you have never clayed your car, and your paint still feels rough after washing it you should clay it to get the bounded contaminates off. You don't have to clay your car every time you wash it , there is no need. If you you feel that your paint is pretty smooth after you wash it and all you want to do is remove your swirl marks and minor scratches and make the paint pop again then compound then polish and then wax DONE. Great Video and explanation Thank You!

[@tamkim2828]

Your clip answered a lot questions I had in mind. Thank you!

[@GOMEZJ76]

Great video Larry. That is a real quick and to the point of instructions you gave. GREAT JOB KEEP IT UP!!!!

[@TheLoftyM]

thanks for the video!! it really helped alot! i was just having a crisis here since i have both, polish and rubbing compound and i didnt know what to do, anyway thanks man!

[@michaelkane5337]

The clay /ER metaphor really helped me as a beginner . Thanks !

[@stevebarnette]

Great information. Thanks for the clarification, Larry. Awesome video.

[@craftbeerlover9994]

It's sad you have to put disclaimers on your INFORMATIONAL videos..... Thank you Larry, you have renewed my dormant detailer and in the past 4 days taught me tips I never considered!! YOU ROCK!!

[@scottsigmon926]

Very good video. Very well explained and I can see the haze you were talking about.

[@3855teddy]

super informative video like always. cleared up a lot of questions I had.

[@rafael.bittencourt]

Great video, thanks a lot for this explanation Larry.

[@cttt8715]

Larry never disappoints. Thanks

[@ibrahimosmic4104]

Everytime I watch a Video from you I learn something new. Thank you for that :D

[@dannyxbox]

Great video man. I understood everything You were talking about! Great explanations. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@raphaelsanchez4797]

Another excellent video. This one was even shorter, sweeter, and straight to the point.

[@PristineAutoDetailing]

Great video as always Larry. Hope all is well

[@minaflash5107]

I really appreciate your simple video it has to many valuable information as a beginner detailer. 💪🏻

[@grailph]

Thank you for the great video. Looks like I'll try this on the family people mover. It's three years old and no wax applied since the day it was bought from the dealer, rain spots everywhere and the acid rain has dulled the thermalite gray shine to a dull gray.

[@izzycroptik]

Finally the video I've been looking for! Thanks for clearing out!! :D

[@jamesonconde6624]

Awesome that makes for a better understanding of when to use these methods. Thanks a bunch

[@hichambouhsine4350]

I was watching lot of video but your it's the best one if we wanna understand the deferent between washing clay compound and polishing the definition its was really specific thank you so much

[@jhrodriguez08]

Great video it took me years to learn the difference between the restoration steps

[@daniel-rm1dg]

Very very informative video. Everything makes perfect sense, i now understand the differences. Thanks alot

[@JohnSmith-qd7zp]

Thanks Larry, best explanation video on KZbin

[@edcgar53]

Man you have answered all my questions! You are the man im looking for a while! Thanks a lot i really appreciate! Now i know what to do with my cars!

[@OG_DSM]

Nice video!! tThank you for being precise and explaining the differences. lesson learned and noted.

[@radityaamandra7029]

Nice explanation Larry!!! Would you make video tutorial of how to use Rotary polisher, what to do and what not to do next time? It would be very helpful!! Thanks!!

[@JoseGomez-zg3tm]

Thank you for explaining compound and polish I got it now great job

[@steamcleanrenew4197]

Amazing tips and results!

[@RixterNow]

That was quite the revelation about how often do you clay your car. I thought it needed to be clayed before every wax/polish (if I'm using the right terms)

[@Fedgery007]

You are so informative and knowledgeable!

[@kinglouisxiv5771]

Cheers Larry, to see the difference is really helpful.

[@iamher6422]

Great info! Simple and to the point! Thanx for sharing! 👏🏼

[@wrxzboost]

very useful information, thanks for clearing this up Larry.