When Top Tier Sweden MAKES The Meta - War Thunder

[@nickybrander1015]

the orange leopard 2A6 cammo was just a leo 2A6 painted during the European Championship of football in 2008. To cheer on our footbal team. 'Trots op onze jongens' means proud of our boys. So actually its an historical cammo so nobody is allowed to hate it!

[@Q-lowGoblin]

Whenever you see any form of Italian at top tier I can ensure you that they will be a good teammate. They may not carry the team like other nations easily would. But they will always drag you out of danger, always help you repair, and always be some of the best teammates around.

[@wyvernthefox9683]

Unless their the skilled Italian mains (I credit myself with carrying a large majority of my games at top tier when I play Italy.) In which case they are scary powerhouses as you never expect their tanks to be so good, or in the Centauro 120s case, so survivable.

[@gfimadcat]

It's the only way they can get rp/sl >.>

[@criticalhartzer]

something i love to do with the cv9120 is only bringing 13 rounds. youll only have rounds in your first stage, the back of the tank is basically just empty space then. peeking corners with your rear first is possible like that, dying to one hit is very rare due to crew positions

[@neoninky]

Same with the cv90105? I usually bring around 13 darts and 3 atgms should I get rid of my atgms or lower darts to put some atgms?

[@esooGrM]

@@neoninkyFalarick is a very decent ATGM, highly maneuverable with tandem so you can ignore ERA. Id keep em for the fun of it.

[@edensdreams2890]

CV9120 - "5 sec reload with an ace crew" - or with a newb crew! It's autoloaded ;)

[@nightwing268]

Yeah he missed that one, it is basically the same as the 90105.

[@Puerkl8r]

That's a good idea for a series, not sure if that's the plan, but a "state of top tier _________" for each nation at the start of 2024.

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Damn, someone caught on.. Shhhhh

[@Kaiberus]

theres already a game with that name for america, state of decay

[@AiroDive]

@@JustinPlaysTVbtw could do you a vid pn your swedish lineups? :) (i see the ones from 5:D to 12.3)

[@shauryajha9479]

Justin is the most family friendly war thunder player

[@Blackphantom622]

Yeah only heard him cuss a few times but his streams are different from his videos

[@haruki4012]

So true, he's the most wholesome player in War Thunder😇

[@9Achaemenid]

Most WT creators got Damp but Justing is the calmest

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@9Achaemenid no lol

[@Fergus_Paintings]

Lol

[@Connor22Abrams4]

Sweden, Russia, and Germany all on the same team is scary (I play the US at 11.7)

[@loneirregular1280]

Sweden and Germany together is scary, and I main Russia.

[@sorn2866]

Me who mains Japan and US top tier especially US its just pure suffering tbh i'm currently grinding Sweden just to feel the meta a bit and a better experience

[@braedenhaeck7030]

US on my team is scary.

[@lordcurre39]

germany vs Sweden is scary

[@Swattintanks]

Italy main crying in the corner

[@alex190alex]

Omg that was me at the beginning of the video in the strf 9040 BILL. Justin saved me and pulled me back, I can confirm he is one of the best teammates

[@FreddyKruger112]

Top tier Sweden is amazing, I stopped my US grind to grind out the Swedish tech trees and I swear it was like flipping a switch, I went from losing a majority of my battles to winning the majority. I’ve also found that my favorite BRs to play Sweden have been 3.7, 8.0, 8.7, 9.3, 10.0-10.3 and of course top tier.

[@squidy4082]

Yeah losing a majority sounds like hell for US

[@brim-skerdouglasson]

3.7 is a single tank, the Pz IV. What else do you run in that low BR?

[@squidy4082]

@@FreddyKruger112 it’s so sad the state of the game rn, so many changes they just ignore

[@Juel92]

The BILL isn't bad you just have to use it properly. It isn't good to hit center, with the carousel autoloaders for example if you hit a bit to the side you'll usually one shot the ammo. Also you can use it against targets behind cover which isn't possible with regular missiles.

[@nadhifsaputra7310]

I can agree with BILL isn't that bad, but the launching system usually busted, out of 10 spawns the chance i got BILL'd (the ATGM went to the ground first instead of shooting straight) is 6/10

[@bkarloskar]

Gotta agree with you and disagree with justin on this one, you just have aim them a bit more than regular ATGMs(not much experience with the TOW2B tho). Imo it's quite effective against ruskis and light vehicles

[@Juel92]

I think damaged optics should lose their zoom, have a crack in them and lose nightvision. The crack shouldn't be too bad though, mainly just to know it's damaged.

[@endertacosalad8228]

something like what squad dose would be dope

[@GOD719]

Or the sights are off. Knocked out of alignment. I also think hit indicators should be removed. You shouldn't be able to fire through smoke or brush and see where you are hitting.

[@nightwing268]

I think that’s a fair change so then everyone is going to think twice before going to peak over a hill

[@novax5221]

Gaijin made a change where "destroyed" helicopters and planes will not be kicked out intil the vehicle is fully exploded or all crew knocked out so a ka-50 that is considered killed can fly all the way back to the helipad and repair even though its comsidered "destroyed".

[@Ackz89]

Cant tell you how many times that has happened to me.. even in air Rb, manage to get missiles off and kill people 😂

[@Sturmgechu]

Love your videos Justin. There are a lot of mainstream war thunder CC’s that are just not as aggressive and play very campy or just show poor content. You show the war thunders full potential as well as teaching us top tier tips and tricks.

[@nightfoxkitsune3696]

U know Justin i love this new video format in witch u go in and see how the nation is fairing in the current Meta/times! I would love to see even more videos like this visiting every nation in the game and show casing how they are doing in the current times! Thanks for the video and i hope u have a wonderfull day!

[@samuelbanks6269]

I personally love the line up game play! awesome video.

[@solhernendez2885]

I think having your sights knocked out would be a great addition. It would make HEAT and explosive shells more useful and it's just a cool and realistic change.

[@coopj24]

At lower tiers Sweden you also have some pretty good stuff, the SAV 20.12.48 and the Sherman III/IV, the PBV 501 which as 300mm of pen at 6.7, and the Bkan 1C. There’s also the VIDAR and some other vehicles.

[@ssuuss539]

21:25 I have the black night and wonder what I looked like for my aps to work and here it is in action!(not my black night in vid)

[@MRCruise24]

The orange tank is actually the dutch leopard 2a6, it says "proud of our boys"

[@toedtoed]

Since Swedens lower tiers are less fourtunate when it come to good tanks. I know there are a few. But they tend to be slighty to moderately overtierd. Players that have ground through the Swedish tree tend to know how to play the game not trusting the armour to work (no heavies). Also the early APDS with good pen but bad effect inside the tank teaches you to aim for weakspots and specific crew early. Then you take these well rounded players and suddenly give them really good toys at top tier. Of course they are going to do well.

[@LOLmixaliscyp]

The winning conditions don't always depend on the nations in your team, i play Japan and i am almost every game top 3 or top 5 and Japan has all nations to play with, i say never mind winning just have fun and learn the vehicles you play plus the map layout and find the positions and playstyle that suits you. Cheers on video, always fun to watch.

[@wyvernthefox9683]

Most of Sweden's top tier has been powerful for ages. Sweden bi-passed the HEAT grind when it became the new starting shell. Their 122 series has that up-armored front plate of the Leo 2 Chasses making the front plate weakpoint a no go, they got the 2A6 for the best shell in game. They got a very similar treatment to how Italy used to be (back when the CL was the best shell) and have been a very powerful nation for some time.

[@Swedevan]

Yo I was the T80UM2 that you killed after the minute of us trying to bait each other I'm sad that the game of who pushes first wasn't in the vid but GG (even though i whiffed the easiest shot in the world lol)

[@DeffinitlyNotFBI]

Top tier Sweden is do damn good, cant wait to fill it with more Nordic vehicles in the future 🇸🇯🇸🇪🇫🇮🇩🇰

[@ADVS.]

glad ive been grinding sweden pretty much since ive started WT, op asf and ive loved watching it get even more OP. 15th day of asking our friend Justin to play the HKP9.

[@qyzxger790]

I think your videos are one of the best war thunder content wise. 🙂

[@parkerstone1788]

Hey Justin I have figured out on any T-series tank with the bill you put it just to the right of the breach and it ammo rack about 80% of the time and on Abram’s any western tank it will take two missiles to take them out

[@haruki4012]

I love how Justin treats other players with love and his wholesomeness

[@Optimusprime56241]

Not on streams tho 😭💀

[@PaganWolf30]

the kA-50 was built tough it can withstand a hit and still make it back to base

[@LLAA420]

*Justin talking about the CV90120* : "5 sec reload with an ace crew" i mean yeah the loader is a freaking robot Justin

[@thechef7438]

I love this type of content. Its chill and entertaining.

[@gameboosted007]

"Trots op onze jongens" camo is dutch for "proud of our sons"

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

If there's one armored car/improvised vehicle that I'd love to see in the game is the Laffly W15 TCC for the French Tech Tree. It's armed with the same 47mm SA37 gun as the SOMUA S35 in an rear mounted and enclosed compartment & one 7.5mm FM 24/29 MG.

[@liladoodle]

Or the regular open-top version.

[@phenmor]

I am safe to say I AM INLOVE with the 9040 bill

[@ehmul1510]

your vids get suggested to me all time, might be because i am subscribed. hope it goes well

[@shronkytonks1456]

8.7 Sweden is also extremely meta right now in sweden same as 10.0

[@allorfh2495]

8.0 is also amazing I just wish it was uptier 90% of the time.

[@vaclavkolar6750]

Man i'd love to see the revisit of CV-90120. That thing is cracked

[@interpl6089]

Leopard 2A7s and their derivatives are so frustrating to play against with anything other than another Leopard ... the upgraded hull armor + spall liners just make it more OP than T-80BVMs in their prime...

[@drbadbrain4714]

The driver gunner commander skewer is still very achievable if you have any high ground on them, otherwise I treat it the same as I treated them before, just shoot the breach and pray

[@FF-86]

2A7 is nowhere near the level 122+ and PLSS. A7 can e.g. easily be penned through the UFP.

[@interpl6089]

@@FF-86 My 3BM60 just bounces on the ufp which has 81° angle...the front plate with addon armor is also a non pen even from 10 meters... lower front plate doesn't do anything, because i haven't seen anyone carry ammo in the hull and there's nothing otherwise...gun mantlet is diceroll that sometimes non pens or often atleast destroys the barrel...

[@FF-86]

@@interpl6089 usually it does not bounce. I have experienced it myself on several occasions. Check the A7 discussion thread in the forum and search for 'Ufp'. It has been discussed there. Its not working like in the Swedish Leos. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the A7 is weak, but to equate it to the level of protection of Swedish Leos is simply wrong.

[@FF-86]

@@interpl6089 can't see my reply for some reason - just wanted to add, it seems you might need to learn where to shoot. if you shoot LFP, dont shoot the side where additional ammo would be stored but the side where the driver sits. You can pen driver+loader+gunner and even the ammo and breech this way. 3Bm60 usually spalls really well.

[@Paul91415]

I like the idea of damaged optics actually affecting you. Damaged optics would result in not being able to use thermal/night vision and rangefinder in the gunner view. IRL a tank gunner would use the oldschool backup sight aligned with the gun

[@Stridsvagn-PanzerKommandant]

Sweden is pretty rough from 3.0-6.7, after 8.0 it's surprisingly pretty good The saving grace of low tier sweden is the finnish sub tree

[@NotMe-bz9pl]

Yeap, new player in general I an currently at 7.7-8.0 and it's been pain

[@nightwing268]

The cv90105 saved me from the expected lower-mid tier pain of grinding sweden and when i got a full lineup for 10.0, it just went smooth sailing from there on.

[@sxs5762]

Sweden has the best 3.7 lineup in the game. I use it a ton to grind out events.

[@Xenotork]

The swedes added their magical armor bounce technologies to the leopard 2's shot trap mechanics, and ended up making the super leopard. Now if the M1's mantlet and shot traps were properly simulated, you get similar results. albeit a clear shot into the turret ring with any of the modern tanks can do a number on the crew. Something the Strv 122bs dont have.

[@jacobtanner486]

They should give the 2a6 and PSO the same spall liners, it’s kind of stupid that Sweden gets the BEST leopards, BEST light tank, and the grippen, when Germany gets the worst leopards (not saying they’re bad) and no eurofighter (they should’ve just added it like the grippen with no Fox3’s)

[@letankiste2340]

it's fun how people say that germany is overpowered xith 2a7v when sweden literally has 3 2a7v, a great SPAA, good CAS and good light top tier tank... I really don't understand why nobodies cry about the sweden wich is just germany in ten times better And as always, really loke your vids justin, helpfull to learn english as a french speaker :)

[@s.31.l50]

15:42 You know Justin, it’s been a while since you’ve taken out the M3A3 Bradley

[@Degn87]

SWE have been META for a long time, we SWE mains just been quiet about it :P

[@JeyKalda]

Nobody needs to know, let us keep the fun we have with Sweden :D

[@Snicshavo]

I WANT TO DAMAGED SIGHTS BE CRACKED!! FINALLY SOME GAMECHANGING FEATURE!

[@__LuCHs__]

the music hits hard

[@-_-death4646]

The Japanese AH-1S did get the other weep camouflage(the red one, I forgot the name of it), but only available on DMM accounts.

[@lyghtz7000]

i would love a vid on the cv90120 , its such a fun tank

[@u3210]

Damaged optics is a great idea, the less arcadey the game is, the better imo. Great vid btw! Sweden is op, haha.

[@GOD719]

And get rid of hit indicators as well. You shouldn't be able to find a target, by firing machine guns, through smoke

[@darthstalinus3842]

Fun fact it is possible to bomb a helicopter and kill it by hitting it you just need to hit the center of the blades and it will bounce off and kill it

[@coffeebuticed]

10:10 What was the Abrams doing? That's a question I ask myself whenever I see one out and about.

[@swiftofdow]

A revisit of the CV90120 would be awesome to see

[@NerfSniper1494]

don't know when the last time you did a visit/revisit to the 2S25M but gaijin gave it 3M60 so now at 10.0 it has alot more firepower than previous so i'd say give it a revisit at somepoint

[@JustinPlaysTV]

You might want to keep an eye on tomorrow's release xP

[@NerfSniper1494]

say less og @@JustinPlaysTV 👀

[@amn0940]

20:34 how did you managed to put different colour wing smoke in the Grippen?

[@chocolat-kun8689]

Its amazing that the best leopard is not in the german tech tree.

[@SGTJackMorgan]

I think that early jet age is where Sweden can sorta struggle, at least between until 8.0.

[@urittiru3601]

As you are visiting the top tier of nations I would suggest doing Italy’s contender for weakest top tier.

[@TiraJ.]

The most annoying thing about 122B+ is the flap in front of the commander which basically block over half of the sight when look over the hill. :/ wish gaijin fix this since I rely on it a lot

[@shrillcrayfish6168]

16:14 okay so I have confusion. Is doing what he's doing here how you survive aa. Going up away at an angle? Or was it just betting bomb could kill before missle

[@leTaubsi]

A revisit of the C90120 would be pretty cool :)

[@monsterx7596]

11:13 just to clarify 5 sec reload with auto loader not aced crew, but for some reason it has "loader" as a crew

[@JustinPlaysTV]

I always forget that.. initially it did not, but then gaijin gave it said auto loader.

[@monsterx7596]

@@JustinPlaysTV ok thanks i didn't know abt that, but at least u have to knock out 3 crew instead of 2 to kill it lol

[@KaiGamingPH1]

Just finished grinding Sweden. Sweden is the most fun nation that I grinded. At first, 1.0-5.5, the grind would be painful, and after that, it gets better when you already have 7.7. It's fun to play the Strv on the top tier; the light tank, the AA, and the medium tank are phenomenal. I used hit-and-run tactics and was able to hit a good win rate. I came from the USSR, and now that I play Sweden, I prefer it more than the Russian bias.

[@quan-uo5ws]

Thats because there isnt russian bias i am now at 8.0 ussr and its painful... Mid tier ussr used to be so good, but they raised the brs of all the IS tanks and ruined it... and 3.7 which used to be the golden tier for russia is now ruined by the premium sav.

[@cube3207]

I just don't get why all the 122s get spall liners but neither the 2a6 or the 2PSO get them. Nontheless great video keep it up!

[@Dramigbaklanges]

Take a look at the interview of an Ukraine tank crew about the difference between 122 and the German Leo2, the only thing that was better on the leo2 was the firepower. They used the 122 primary for assault and the Leo2 for hunting, the reason was the better frontal armor on the 122.

[@JamesEarlCash]

Gaijin need to add spall liner to more vehicles that should supposedly have it (Bradleys etc.) as it seems to be a gamechanger.

[@bigbully1277]

The biggest downside would be the Bradly moving up in BR.

[@jp18449]

Or... They could just remove all spall liners...

[@nuklear7074]

You know the Bradley already got spall liners ingame?

[@JamesEarlCash]

really? Didn't knew!@@nuklear7074

[@aflyingcowboy31]

@@nuklear7074 Yea janky ones, the current Bradley spall liner makes no sense whatsoever.

[@marcv9035]

Would love to see a revisit on the CV90120

[@Faded._]

This thing has a bugged commander sight that makes it personally annoying to play and spade

[@captainfactoid3867]

I really like these lineup reviews

[@christianlee1693]

with the bill aim to the left or right, about 5-8 inches above the tank

[@R1kduv]

This settles it, as a beginner I’m switching from grinding ussr to Sweden. I mean I basically get ussr lite version with Sweden as well

[@pizza_dwarf]

Hope your gonna see this becouse the bill isnt actually "that" bad, its better to just aim to the left or right of the turret. Its just more consistent expetially with russians, it goes from killing the breach to 1 tapping

[@chezloc]

You should definetly do a revisit to the CV120

[@marckugler4298]

Yes, please revisit the CV90120❤

[@pilotmanpaul]

Before. The Leopard 2A6 was already Absolute Perfection. But the 2A7 and Strv 122 works on that Perfection and makes it GODTIER.

[@Foxb0t]

i think the bill still is a good vehicel. i got some crazy kills with the atgms when youre aiming above the vehicle.

[@LunarsX]

Hey Justin I would love it if u played the Tam (Doesnt matter which tam) It seems like a tank that you would enjoy ❤

[@Oreo-without-milk]

Yess a new video ❤ thanks you

[@shrillcrayfish6168]

0:15 did both thanks for asking

[@maxy_ruskiel]

Justin: The BILL missiles are laughably bad! Me fully knowing that aiming them dead center is the worst you can do, even with the T - series tanks:

[@TheFumizuki]

am happy i Grinded Sweden,Just love how many tanks and Decent CAS it gets for top tier

[@filipkatila5511]

Im so happy they added the gripen before that there really wasnt anything to play for cas

[@29JTAC]

Rolling out with Sweden and Germany is generally a top tier win

[@Kweizimbzambza]

9040 BILL has top-attack missiles with 500 pen. You can easily oneshot most of the tanks in the roof. I had the most fun playing BILL, cuz you can hide turret on a slope and throw missiles with commander cam, completely invulnerable

[@brandonbao7097]

A top tier game with Sweden and Germany on the same side will win basically 90% of the time, and the odds are even more imbalanced when US is on the opposing team. I have been playing Russia and this is exactly what has been happening.

[@Spinosaur_32]

26:15 I dont agree with u , having those top to bottom atgms is great, its a really good ifv ,better then any bradley

[@Knight_wz]

my bradley will usually one tap any non russian tank as long as the Tow2b is proper placed at the right height above the roof

[@bzipoli]

i love the orange paint ngl

[@cxlxu]

there are backup optics in tanks so ig i should switch to that until the main optics are repaired

[@cxlxu]

could be unmagnified

[@Myuska2288]

Much like how the radiator used to be just ablative armor until Gaijin linked it to damaging the engine if not repaired, I do find it frustrating that a destroyed optic can just be ignored. On the other hand, if you hate being breach-barrel tortured imagine getting literally poked in the eye. In the end of the day, War Thunder is a game that has to strike a balance between "realism" and "fun mechanics." Between having a 19 sec repair time or having to completely ditch and write-off your crippled T-90M to use your example.

[@romain8501]

They dont need to "fix" the Ka50 as the twin propeller design is literally made to remove the need for a tail rotor

[@JustinPlaysTV]

But muh balance in WT

[@stggcsubcommanderseb4384]

I always made jokes like "I took out their optics so they can't see" so modeled optics would be funny

[@Joker61861]

Great video!!!

[@oddjonsson2815]

The 9040 BILL is incredibly good in BR 10-11.7 if you use it correctly, it's especially good against russian vehicles. It does take a while to learn properly but it is my no1 vehicle as a Swedish main. You aim a bit to the side and you'll often one shot a tank behind cover and with the T-series terrible reverse, these nothing they can do about it

[@TheArchivesUnderground]

curious what anime decal that is hidden away on the back (on the back of commander optic i believe)

[@geldoncupi1]

Gaijin gave Sweden, the Finland tech tree and both of them come with mostly German vehicles and Germany can’t have its own vehicles in its tech.. What kind of swamp is this!!??

[@TomislavPuklin-wz1bl]

With Finland now looking to buy a lot of American weaponry, it might actually get crazy in the Swedish tech tree.

[@noclistt]

You should take a look at Israeli Top Tiers (11.0-12.3), It feels like a reskinned Italy with how poorly they both get treated by Gaijin

[@gwusz7942]

Don’t worry bro, I be suggesting your videos to everyone 😅

[@CrispyPratt]

Gaijin give sweden the swedish king tiger now

[@axm2689]

I don't know about top tier Sweden but I do know that until the Abrams series has their turbine whine reduced to the level of other nations, the Abrams will continue to be inferior to other nations MBT's. You can detect an Abrams from almost twice the distance as you do other top tier MBT's. On top of the other gross weaknesses baked into the Abrams line, the turbine whine is a true detriment in all situations.

[@ludvigstark9326]

I don't have any issues (besides the stab) with the bill, I infact get nukes with it regularly, but I suppose it's likely we use them differently

[@AceZenoxAy]

Would be nice to see some Japan meta gameplay! Nice video ❤