When Will the Rapture Take Place? with Pastor Doug Batchelor

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Doug Batchelor

Doug Batchelor

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@cairozulu6700
@cairozulu6700 5 жыл бұрын
Its very soothing that this difficult life on earth will come to an end. Looking forward to be with our Lord and Savior forever and ever.
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@Why So Serious? Lighten up mate.
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy Do you even understand what you just wrote?
@juliad.6372
@juliad.6372 5 жыл бұрын
Amen brother.
@willynine3505
@willynine3505 4 жыл бұрын
How soothing can it be to think that you will have to survive such tribulation? Rev. 14 show the 144,000 being sealed. Why protect them only? According to Batchelor all believers will be protected during the tribulation.... why only seal the 144,000? He can’t answer that either. God bless you guys. Please read the Bible for yourselves & confront your leaders with these questions. Forget the hoopla if the number of resurrections. Just ask them to straight out answer your questions.
@bryankoenig4740
@bryankoenig4740 4 жыл бұрын
Cairo Zulu amen brother
@billthompson2860
@billthompson2860 2 жыл бұрын
A rare find...a man of God truly Spirit filled. How do I know? The fruit I see here lines up with the God's Word. I am so glad I found Pastor Batchelor.
@stephenbruce5431
@stephenbruce5431 4 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Post-Trib believer. There’s been too many scriptures that the Holy Spirit showed me that doesn’t jive with this teaching. You’re speaking of “tribulations” which I agree with you that the Church is called to go through. The Great Tribulation is not trials like we have. It is literally the wrath of God. Now here’s just a couple scriptures that made me rethink my position ... Matt 16:18 “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.” Jesus said this about His church. However, during the rise of the Antichrist, the Lord gives permission to him to overcome the Saints. Luke 17:26 “And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood come and destroyed them all.” When Jesus steps foot on the earth, it is not a “business as usual” environment. People are dealing with absolute devastation. It is not a “life is good” scenario. They are dealing with demon hoardes, endless wars, billions of dead people literally laying all around them, and cosmic disturbances. All of it ordained by God Himself. We can have different views. Absolutely. Doesn’t mean neither one of us are saved by our awesome God. But, what bothered me is the assumption that people who don’t believe that we will go through these horrors are “not prepared.” That’s a bold statement, and I won’t go any further on what I really think about that. But let me say this ... being that I believed in the Post-Trib doctrine for many years, I know a lot of people from that camp, as well as a lot of people who are Pre-Trib ... I find that the ones who believe Christ can come at any moment, like the first church believed, are the ones who are not stocking up on food supplies, ammo, etc, rather they are going out and preaching the Gospel. I am by no means saying that Post-Tribs are not evangelizing. But I find that they are focused on being prepared to survive here on earth when we should be making disciples. This is just my personal observation. The last thing ... Matthew 24 seems to be to Israel, does it not? I personally do not have the funds or the access to flea to the mountains from Judaea like Jesus says to do. It seems to me that Jesus is telling the Israeli’s “the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.” He goes on to say “this gospel of the kingdom.” Jesus is telling Israel to endure to the end. It is God dealing with His chosen people once again. If He wouldn’t deal with them, then we should all be shaken to the core because that means He does break covenants, which we know is impossible. We as the Church ARE saved by believing in Christ and what He did on the cross. Jesus was telling the disciples all of these things before He even established His church. Anyway, I am on this journey just like everybody here. Let us continue to seek the Truth which can only be found in His Word. Let us all ask the Lord to continue to open our eyes to what He says. He will do it. He will teach us if we will let Him.
@riversoflivingwater7006
@riversoflivingwater7006 2 жыл бұрын
Deeply appreciate all you wrote here. Every word. Appreciate your kindness gentleness and yet boldness for Gods word. My position has been very much to stay focused on sharing the Gospel. Sowing watering Laboring watching and praying. As we don’t know the hour but we can know the season we are in. I don’t get in the conversation about the rapture but I definitely study and listen to all side. I appreciate what you said about Christians who are wanting pre trib as I too heard so many get frustrated and even mock those who believe in pre trib. With the studies I have done I lean towards pre trib and it’s like I know in my spirit it is pre trib. I also know I’m surrendered and daily surrender as it is good to take inventory of ourselves and well I just want to live everyday being about our Fathers business and becoming more like Him. That I will decrease and He will increase and He will continue to use me as He wills. I have prayed some bold prayers. That He would prepare me for whatever persecution may come. I hesitate to use the word persecution but there has definitely been much suffering I have endured just from family members alone and I do rejoice in this as I got to know the Love of Christ more deeply and I know His word does not return void. Truly loving others in a way I couldn’t without the Love of Christ ruling and reigning in my heart and understanding this verse more then ever If they hated me they will hate you also a servant isn’t above his master. All these things prepare us. Day and night seeking the Kingdom of Heaven first all things will be added. I truly believe for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose are equipped for every good work. What I’m saying is should any of us have to be martyred God will prepare us for it. If I had to give an answer for what position I take as far as the rapture. Thus far my studies and understanding is pre trib and it’s definitely not because I’m Not ready to die for my Faith. I love Christ so much I want to be prepared for whatever it is He will allow me to go through and I trust He has already. I have already suffered quite a bit in my life. I know suffering that it is only because of Jesus I’m Alive. I Say this to say that I’m not a stranger to suffering. Also thinking about those who have went home to Jesus in death. Who preceded us in death. So many have not been martyred. So it’s not like some requirement that we be martyred to enter Heaven. It’s Jesus finished work on the cross. Believing on Him as a little Child and being born again to see the Kingdom of Heaven. Many have gotten to be in Heaven and not been martyred. We all suffer tribulation in this life. That’s why Jesus said take heart I overcome the world. As Christians we have been enlisted in war. Spiritual war. If we are single heart and mind for Christ Hot and not cold or Lukewarm or distracted from Kingdom work you best believe we are getting demonic attacks in various ways and we continue to fight the good fight never growing weary of doing good. I REJOICE in these sufferings knowing we are a threat to the Kingdom of darkness we are planting watering laboring keeping our minds on things above keeping our mind on souls being about our Fathers business so as long as He has us here.
@JD123874
@JD123874 8 ай бұрын
Wrath of God was poured out in Egypt. Israelites witnessed it. They were removed out of Egypt at the completion of the plagues. They were also protected from the wrath of God there.
@sionesaafi7484
@sionesaafi7484 5 ай бұрын
The church doesn't go through the tribulation, according to Rev 12:6,14-16...God prepared a place in the wilderness for woman (church) for 1260 days, also God protects the christians there...the same thing Jesus told the Judea to flee to the mountains in Mathew 24:15 before tribulation in verse 21.. Many christians already prepared their places in the wilderness for their families, do the same thing...
@justmyopinion7
@justmyopinion7 5 ай бұрын
You are right, I am also pre-trib cause Jesus said we must watch and pray to escape all these things to be counted worthy to stand before the Son of Man. We also see in Rev 3:10 that Jesus will spare us from the tribulations that will come on the earth dwellers (the church are just passing through, their citizenship is in heaven) and when we look in Rev 5 we will see the church is already in heaven when Jesus receives the scroll to open the first seal... thus pre-trib.
@MariaNunes-po5rc
@MariaNunes-po5rc 5 ай бұрын
Yes. I also believe that the entire human society will face the great Tribulacao...some for good which means salvation...some for destruction... All the Bible information about pass judgments everyone saw God actions. 1- the 10 plagues of Egypt 2- Lot leaving Sodom and Gomorre 3-- Moses and Israelites scape from pharaoh at the red Sea 4- Noah and his family scape from the massive diluve 5- Cristians left Jerusalem in 66 when Cestio Galo surrounded the city... Yes I believe that Matteus chapter 24 inicialy applyes to Jerusalem because that judgment was much needed to bring justice to God,s holy NAME YHVH... Ancient cities had a Big Wall with gates and people in charge close the gates at night for protection and close the gates on Saturday to keep people inside the city to have time to worship in the temple and sinagogs... that's why Christ asking Pray for your exist not happens on the Saturday. But the last part of Christ speech on Matthew chapter 24 applyes with no doubt to our generation... I study for decades....and I,m still learning because the prophecy is developing gradually as we approach the end. Thank you very much.
@TOGunslinger
@TOGunslinger 4 жыл бұрын
Stay behind as long as you like, I'm leaving when Jesus calls.
@kindnesslove2271
@kindnesslove2271 4 жыл бұрын
Amen Amen
@Justamixofdepressionandcoffee
@Justamixofdepressionandcoffee 4 жыл бұрын
I am leaving when jesus calls also
@justfloat1
@justfloat1 3 жыл бұрын
I pray that we maybe found worthy to escape that which must come upon the earth, and stand before Jesus!
@EmileKleinhans
@EmileKleinhans 3 жыл бұрын
@@justfloat1 You are worthy if you believe Jesus died for your sins and there is nothing else we can do to earn that gift.
@tinac5468
@tinac5468 3 жыл бұрын
@@justfloat1 amen
@bernadetteesteves579
@bernadetteesteves579 4 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see my Lord JESUS
@mariciacharles7116
@mariciacharles7116 3 жыл бұрын
Me to AMEN 🙏❤
@lindseywalker6925
@lindseywalker6925 3 жыл бұрын
Open your Bible. You can see Him today.
@mygodisyahweh8634
@mygodisyahweh8634 Жыл бұрын
​@@lindseywalker6925 amen
@wirewire215
@wirewire215 5 жыл бұрын
God bless you pastor Doug for working hard for the Lord hope we see each other in heaven i have cried for our church and the world and myself for years now lets hope we all make it home soon.
@normaajarie4359
@normaajarie4359 4 жыл бұрын
Lets all pray for each other so we can make it home. What a glorious day that will be.
@IrmaXavier-mw6zm
@IrmaXavier-mw6zm 2 ай бұрын
Dear Lord Jesus come soon and take me in the rapture with you in heaven. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
@victoriajackson8434
@victoriajackson8434 4 жыл бұрын
What I feel is that GOD gives so many clues to his rapture. The answers are literally right there. If you read and listen to others accounts of rapture you can tell we still experience some of these trials and tribulations. He says at the last trump , in the twinkling of an eye. I pray for his protection of my family and I pray for strength.
@mygodisyahweh8634
@mygodisyahweh8634 Жыл бұрын
Your feelings aren't Facts. No such thing as a pre trib rapture
@justmyopinion7
@justmyopinion7 5 ай бұрын
You are right, I am also pre-trib cause Jesus said we must watch and pray to escape all these things to be counted worthy to stand before the Son of Man. We also see in Rev 3:10 that Jesus will spare us from the tribulations that will come on the earth dwellers (the church are just passing through, their citizenship is in heaven) and when we look in Rev 5 we will see the church is already in heaven when Jesus receives the scroll to open the first seal... thus pre-trib.
@MichaelInvestigates
@MichaelInvestigates 5 жыл бұрын
The saints are not appointed to wrath. Pray that you are worthy to escape...
@savedbyjesus6912
@savedbyjesus6912 5 жыл бұрын
And thats why Jesus will gather his saints just after the tribulation and just before the wrath
@savedbyjesus6912
@savedbyjesus6912 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony M. The bible says that those who are one in Christ, the body of Christ, saved and born again are the saints..
@discipletabitha1724
@discipletabitha1724 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Seals arent wrath...be blessed.
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
Maddy D. Amen I agree!!!
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
Actually the Tribulation is appointed for the Jews. Jesus will come back to save his body from the wrath. Those who don’t believe in pre trib and don’t expect and want Jesus to come back will not receive the crown of righteousness. We are Pre tribulation
@HumbleHeartMinistry
@HumbleHeartMinistry 2 жыл бұрын
Many preachers/teachers use 1 Thes. 4:16 to 5:3 In proving their pretrib rapture theory. But all you have to do is read on one more verse! 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. The return of Jesus comes as a thief in the night to the world, the unbelievers, not to those born again of the Spirit of God!
@NewmanMG
@NewmanMG 5 жыл бұрын
So many so called "Christians" throwing stones in the comment section.. we all should be trying to discern scripture with wisdom from our heavenly father.. not relying just on the words of men.
@NewmanMG
@NewmanMG 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhoward2199 the rapture and the 2nd coming are the same thing same time. This happens at the end of tribulation period. The pre trib rapture is not biblical if that is what you are referring and sda do not follow that false teaching. Mathew 24;30-31 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earthwill mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Daniel 12:1-2 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
@RaptureofSaints
@RaptureofSaints 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhoward2199 Are you Denying the Harpazo which IS in Scripture???
@RaptureofSaints
@RaptureofSaints 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewmanMG Actually the Second COMING of Jesus and the Harpazo are NOT the same Thing! The COMING of Jesus is the COMING of Jesus! The RESURRECTION that takes place at the COMING of Jesus is the RESURRECTION! The Rapture that is the Harpazo is what takes place AFTER the RESURRECTION which only takes place at Christs COMING! The Harpazo / Rapture is a word that ONLY MEANS to be seized and moved from one Location to another! So there are TWO EVENTS that MUST take place before we are Raptured! 1/ The COMING of Jesus 2/ The RESURRECTION and THEN we have the Rapture/ Harpazo! The Truth is that the COMING of Jesus and the RESURRECTION must PRECEDE the Harpazo that we call the Rapture! ONLY those that Partake in the RESURRECTION partake in the Rapture!
@paulovich8018
@paulovich8018 3 жыл бұрын
Not even this man.
@EmileKleinhans
@EmileKleinhans 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhoward2199 Where does the Bible say Christians will face tribulation? You inserted the word Christians there which actually is Jews.
@davidm6751
@davidm6751 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think anyone knows how this is going to go down. Look at how Jesus came into the world. People were expecting some grand conqueror King.. Instead he was a helpless baby, lowly servant and sacrificial lamb. The ‘experts’ of the day couldn’t even recognize prophesy being fulfilled under their nose. What makes anyone think we can predict how the end will come about? My guess is it will be in a way no one could foresee.. I’ve always loved revelations and have studied it a lot. So many views so many can’t agree on tells me that no one knows. What’s important of course is to be ready. Love Jesus with all your heart and mind and soul, treat your neighbor as yourself. Seek his will in your life. Be prepared at any moment/ twinkling of an eye of it could be pre. Be prepared to suffer and be persecuted and maybe even die for your belief in him if it’s post. I’m no where near worthy or ready but I’m trying and pray with his grace I will be. God bless and keep you all.
@tomstiveson1313
@tomstiveson1313 5 жыл бұрын
Well said brother. My exact same sentiments!
@wirewire215
@wirewire215 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you again pastor doug pray for me i have backslide too far but i believe the lord is calling me and trying to get my attention Praise the Lord.
@purpleangel4
@purpleangel4 5 жыл бұрын
Wire Wire You've got my prayers. I conquered a major sin in my life a couple of years ago and I'm being severely attacked by the temptation of falling back into it. The temptation is all around me and constantly chipping at me but I'm barely managing to not give in. I don't want to backslide as I've came to far.
@rootbeer6418
@rootbeer6418 5 жыл бұрын
Just keep reading your Bible daily and keep your trust in Jesus and you shall not fall back into your sin. Everytime you get the feeling of wanting to, say Devil I rebuke you out of my mind. Then pray about your situation and read the Bible and it will come to pass.
@smnalychotu
@smnalychotu 4 жыл бұрын
Accept the fact that your desire for those sin is strong in one way you enjoy you love doing it but you hate it spiritually and you are guilty as soon as you are done .....break the chain simple ex take a break involve yourself with people spiritually minded and pray with them fast with them and above all many promises in the Bible claim those with faith like .... "Now unto him who is able to keep you from falling" His grace is sufficient for me” , ”not by power nor by might but by the Spirit of the Lord I can do all things"; "trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding but in all thy waya acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path" may this small sms help you brethren in Christ God bless
@wirewire215
@wirewire215 4 жыл бұрын
@@smnalychotu what are you talking about my backslide has nothing to do with whatever you are thinking be careful not to make false assumptions on someone else's problem.
@christianseverson5912
@christianseverson5912 2 жыл бұрын
Rest assured Christ will rescue his bride before judgement. 2 Peter 2:7
@MariaNunes-po5rc
@MariaNunes-po5rc 5 ай бұрын
Yes. He certainly rescue his bride... But not every Cristian is part of his Bride...a specific number anointed are part of his Bride. The rest of human society stays here on earth..but the faithful Cristians will be protected amongst the chaos... Was like that in the past It will be like that now. Stay firm to the very end.
@cathyecooper4376
@cathyecooper4376 5 жыл бұрын
Amen.. God Bless. Thank you Pastor Doug🌿
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy So that's why the papacy kept the bible from the masses in the dark ages? I suppose that's what gave them the right to burn Wycliffe at the stake? But luckily there's such a thing as purgatory. Now if we can just get enough people to pay enough money so he can be transferred to heaven right? Won't that be awesome!
@raygunn965
@raygunn965 3 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House i presume you dont read the bible? fair enough
@raygunn965
@raygunn965 3 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House it’s John 3:16, Jesus doesn’t say only “black people who believe…” is whosoever believes. That’s the basics. Grow up and read the bible
@richardsmith682
@richardsmith682 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching the TRUTH!
@CocogalaxyCat
@CocogalaxyCat 5 жыл бұрын
You're right. John Darby was a spiritualists (satanist) that pretended to be a Christian going into churches taking Scriptures out of context to introduce a pre trib narrative. Scofield too. Christians have lost the true love for Jesus in wanting to lay their life down for Him as He did for all of us. Pre trib is an ear tickler. There is no such thing as pre trib, mid trib, post trib. It's called the second resurrection of Jesus Christ.
@Sanctified57
@Sanctified57 5 жыл бұрын
The preacher is speaking the truth. It will be a post tribulation rapture, at the second coming of Jesus
@80sMetalMyke
@80sMetalMyke 5 жыл бұрын
Sanctified57 nope. That’s not going to happen.
@sage-ct4bk
@sage-ct4bk Жыл бұрын
If you read revelation carefully , even his elect go through some form of tribulation
@pzarsadias5961
@pzarsadias5961 Жыл бұрын
I am here in the philippines. How can i have a copy of your book. I have heard a lot of sermons from the baptist church and other denominations about the rapture and and we were made to believe that there is a secret rapture before the tribulations. So there are 3 comings of Jesus. First when he came and died for us. 2nd is the secret 12:07 rapture. Then thirdly the REAL. 2nd coming. Pls send some of your books to the SDA church Philippines. God bless you Pstr Bstchelor
@samuelakiri9242
@samuelakiri9242 2 жыл бұрын
GOD SAVES US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS NOT FROM IT. WOW!! Thanks elder Doug!
@geniepaf9364
@geniepaf9364 2 жыл бұрын
Why confusing' tribulations' ( from Satan and non-christians) and 'The great Tribulation' (a unique one, which is the wrath of God again unbelievers). How then can God once again throw his wrath against the church, the body of Christ, since this already occurred at Calvary. Even in the OT you can see God telling Moses, the first time, to beat the rock for water, but the second time no more beating, but just speaking to the rock... Can't you understand those things. I think you have another comprehension of the Gospel and how God works during the Grace time.
@WatchDude1776
@WatchDude1776 8 ай бұрын
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@WatchDude1776
@WatchDude1776 8 ай бұрын
What are the signs of his coming?
@samuelakiri9242
@samuelakiri9242 8 ай бұрын
@@WatchDude1776 Please read your Bible; Matthew 28.
@timwasson3506
@timwasson3506 3 жыл бұрын
Sound WORD! Straight from the WORD!
@GG-ku3jf
@GG-ku3jf 5 жыл бұрын
Understanding Rupture : The is a common belief among many Christians that, suddenly people will be caught away and taken to Heaven. Let's find out from the scripture? 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV) 16: For the Lord, himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Paul clearly says that When Jesus comes, the dead will rise first and then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds. I hope you understood by now the living are caught up (taken up to heaven) only when the Christ comes and after the dead are raised. Paul teaches the Thessalonians that when Jesus comes, there will be a resurrection of all saints who have died, then a rapture of all saints together, those raised from the dead and those remaining alive.
@Ears14U
@Ears14U 5 жыл бұрын
No rapture. Did you notice that it never says we LEAVE the earth? And heaven was never promised to Yahweh's predestined elect human family members. Jesus did say this though: 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5 KJV. People thinking they go directly to Heaven or Hell after their body and soul die are incorrectly taught. King David, a man after Yahweh's own heart isn't even there ! 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Acts 2:34 KJV. A lot of these professing Christians are truly very ignorant to what our Bible's REALLY say.
@daffydill5807
@daffydill5807 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ears14U to meet the Lord in the air is leaving the earth. Get real
@liat3593
@liat3593 4 жыл бұрын
@ When the breath of life is not in the body, there is no living soul. So people when they die, do not go to heaven. The dead are raised when Jesus comes.
@iolamarshall5038
@iolamarshall5038 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the church will go through the tribulation and the time will be shortened. I pray t hat I will not be deceived. God is my protection.
@jimraisamu4522
@jimraisamu4522 4 жыл бұрын
Correct jesus said if that tribulation day is not shortened no flesh will be be saved but for elect sake the days were shortened clearly meant the saints will be facing the tribulation Amen..
@farrekkamke9941
@farrekkamke9941 4 жыл бұрын
That'swhat the scripture records.
@karlfuller3240
@karlfuller3240 4 жыл бұрын
yes you understand scripture, we all go through the trib and have our faith tested to see who side were on
@PrinceDarius777
@PrinceDarius777 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally some real clarification.
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I’m not 7 day. I do believe Bible speaks of a post tribulation resurrection/ rapture.
@danielleblanc8952
@danielleblanc8952 2 жыл бұрын
u are right
@mygodisyahweh8634
@mygodisyahweh8634 Жыл бұрын
I believe the SDA Except for EGW
@mauriceotiskouton1723
@mauriceotiskouton1723 5 жыл бұрын
Because thou hast kept my Word of patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, try them that dwell upon the earth Revelation 3:10 ....In the world ye will have tribulation John 16:33
@randsollie7921
@randsollie7921 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget to pray that you are worthy to escape (the world) and stand before the Son of Man. But, YES, it is coming on everyone on earth.
@dantephoenix3842
@dantephoenix3842 5 жыл бұрын
What this scripture is saying is that we will be given protection and aid etc. Not that we will be raptured
@randsollie7921
@randsollie7921 5 жыл бұрын
@@dantephoenix3842 where does it say that? It actually says it will come upon ALL THEM that dwell on the face of the earth. ...WE shall meet the Lord in the air and so shall WE ever be with the Lord. But when THEY say peace and safety sudden destruction comes on THEM and THEY shall not escape. See the difference between US and THEM. We are the Children of God, THEY are the world, the unbelievers, the wicked, those that hate Him or ignore Him. Many will come to Him during the tribulation, which is the reason for the Tribulation: a one last chance--if you will--esp for the Jews. THEY are not saved, WE are saved. THEY love not the Truth, WE are saved by the TRUTH. 2 Thessalonians 2:10 God is sending THEM strong delusion, not to His own Children. God requires Justice, but He Loves Mercy (Grace), which is why He sent Christ to die for us, so that we could live. Christ took ALL of our Judgment and punishment, there is no judgment or punishment for us who believe. The Great Tribulation is not for us, it's for those who do not believe. Because if they do not believe in Christ as Lord, their sin remains. They have no redemption and nothing to save them from that hour after the door is shut. This all Basic Gospel stuff. Unless you think there is no difference between us and them? Unless you believe the cross made little to no difference?
@dantephoenix3842
@dantephoenix3842 5 жыл бұрын
@@randsollie7921 First of all you dont need to get rude and question my faith of the cross Whatever -you believe what you want.. Pretrib rapture is unbiblical Mathew 29¶Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Time will tell Take care
@80sMetalMyke
@80sMetalMyke 5 жыл бұрын
Maurice Otis KOUTON that passage is TO Israel scriptures. NOT to the Body of Christ. Book of Revelation is about the Kingdom of Heaven gospel that was unfulfilled. Completely separate from the gospel we are in today. Gospel of grace.
@angelolivencia9358
@angelolivencia9358 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Pastor 😊
@willynine3505
@willynine3505 4 жыл бұрын
One other important question. Why in Rev 5 when that crowd of people were in front of the throne did John not ask who they were? In Rev 7 there was another group in front of the throne, but John asked who they were? Why? Because he knew who the group was in chapter 5, the church. In chapter 7 we learn that the group there are those who cane out of the great tribulation. In other words, those who became believers in Jesus during the tribulation. People, do not be fooled, read for yourselves. I beg of you, I love you!!: the church is already in heaven in chapter 5. How? Pre trib rapture!!
@thinkcat01
@thinkcat01 4 жыл бұрын
Willynine. It is prewrath and not prretrib. Read the Bible I Peter 4: 12 "Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial that has come upon you, as though something strange were happening to you. 13 But rejoice that you share in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed at the revelation of His glory.…
@willynine3505
@willynine3505 4 жыл бұрын
thinkcat01 this proves nothing in regards to pre trib or pre wrath. Everything I do is in love. I love you, I just wish you wouldn’t twist scripture to fit your narrative. The SDA truth is just too much for me at times. Doug Batchelor lies just about every time his lips move. The easiest lie to expose is the he’s envy millennium. Read Isaiah 65:17-25 & see how the millennium has to be on earth. There is still sin & death during the millennium just like Isaiah 65 says. Doug Batchelor tells us that we will have to build our own homes when we get to heaven & he uses Isaiah 65 as proof. He is wrong, our homes in heaven are built by Jesus, again I refer you to scripture.... John 14..... “I go to prepare a place for you......” or have we forgotten these famous words from Jesus.....our Lord & Savior”?
@thinkcat01
@thinkcat01 4 жыл бұрын
@@willynine3505 We do not need to build homes in heaven. Our bodies are the temple of the H.S. We need to build up ourselves in the most Holy faith. We are the bride of Christ and we are the pearls, the jewels, the jade, the sapphire, the diamonds that Revelation talks about.
@fourteen34
@fourteen34 4 жыл бұрын
yes, that is backed up by 2 Thess 2:1 - 8
@liat3593
@liat3593 4 жыл бұрын
@@willynine3505 This is what I have heard regarding the "house building": Jesus is building a house for us in the New Jerusalem. But after the earth is made new and we will inherit the earth, we will of course be able to live anywhere on the new earth and build homes there. We would still have the place that Jesus built for us. A residence in the country and one in the capital :)
@jennacalicchio4312
@jennacalicchio4312 Жыл бұрын
So blessed to have stumbled upon your page, brotha!
@dede4004
@dede4004 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Much to contemplate. Pentecostal churches have always taught pre-tribulation, but I didn't read the scripture like that. Very interesting, thanks.
@rightdoctrine3922
@rightdoctrine3922 5 жыл бұрын
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@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
Frank Wiley Amen!!! I watch Him too
@rightdoctrine3922
@rightdoctrine3922 5 жыл бұрын
@@zzzproductions117 dummbies
@Sanctified57
@Sanctified57 5 жыл бұрын
Frank Wiley He is speaking the truth. Read the scriptures, not mans opinion. It will be a post tribulation rapture
@rightdoctrine3922
@rightdoctrine3922 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sanctified57 dumbbie
@loisdell6130
@loisdell6130 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining that.i can't wait till the Lord comes back.
@g.carbajal514
@g.carbajal514 2 жыл бұрын
I pray we can endure until the end..
@ImGodsWill27
@ImGodsWill27 4 жыл бұрын
Revelation 3:10 New Living Translation 10 “Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world.
@ImGodsWill27
@ImGodsWill27 4 жыл бұрын
Peggy Smulligan So it’s the NLT that is confusing you? Try this one. Revelation 3:10 King James Version 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will KEEP THEE FROM the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try “THEM” that dwell upon the EARTH 🌍 (As we the saints/church will be in heaven).
@ImGodsWill27
@ImGodsWill27 4 жыл бұрын
Peggy Smulligan The scriptures tell no man knows the day or hour when The Lord will return, but then they also go on to tell WHEN The Lord will return to Jerusalem, if there are two returns, one we don’t know about & one which we do, that is expressly @ the conclusion of the tribulation period, the other is before it, for us, His church⛪️.
@gregcummings474
@gregcummings474 4 жыл бұрын
Was the church of Philadelphia raptured? So why would you think we would be raptured from temptations? To keep is to guard, not remove. Through temptations the scripture records he would provide a way of escape, not removing you from those temptations
@ImGodsWill27
@ImGodsWill27 4 жыл бұрын
& The saints to NOT BELONG to this world; AMEN 🙏🏽
@anned8455
@anned8455 3 жыл бұрын
Come Lord Jesus please come soon
@fwdolphin
@fwdolphin 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that the final tribulation is when God will deal with the Jews and Israelis. Many of them are secular and are expecting the Messiah and will look at the Antichrist at first as their Messiah. When he turns against them then they will realize that Jesus was truly their Messiah.
@stevenbp101
@stevenbp101 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your teachings.
@stevenbp101
@stevenbp101 5 жыл бұрын
Robt Clayton You don’t have to watch it Mr Clayton. I hope you find “Him”in your studies.
@TWILS02119
@TWILS02119 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath friends!
@noeleenfalkner4557
@noeleenfalkner4557 4 жыл бұрын
The peace plan for the Middle East he promises seven years of peace but breaks it in 3.5 years of that seven, whatever or wherever it is Gods got my back
@NickRyanBayon
@NickRyanBayon 5 жыл бұрын
Remember many will be called but few will be chosen.
@christie-leebailey4947
@christie-leebailey4947 5 жыл бұрын
Pastor Doug continue the Good work in sharing the Bible based truth of God. There are many nay sayers and doubters but at the end of the day you would have used your platform to make them aware of the coming crisis and their blood will not be on your shoulders. God bless you 🙏🙏
@ImGodsWill27
@ImGodsWill27 4 жыл бұрын
1 Thessalonians 5:9 King James Version 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
@willynine3505
@willynine3505 4 жыл бұрын
Revelation 19 is the second coming.... so if the second coming is in Rev. 19, how can we be in Heaven & coming behind Jesus on white horses if we don’t get to heaven till after the second coming? Look over in Rev. 18 to see who are those dressed in pure white linen. Oops, that’s right..... the church. Explain that Batchelor, without Ellen G Whites books though.... thank you.
@nickgarner2114
@nickgarner2114 4 жыл бұрын
I agree for Jesus comes for his bride ( The Church) before the tribulation begins. But seems that's a debate. However I agree with you.
@AndreaMendoza-ym9ep
@AndreaMendoza-ym9ep 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus never taught of rapture pre-trib. Jesus made it clear we would go through the Tribulation and face persecution. It’s not that hard to understand, please re-read Matthew 24
@Vartazian360
@Vartazian360 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndreaMendoza-ym9ep Jesus was talking to 100% jews at that time. Isaiah 26 makes this very clear.. "Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain." This is very specific. 1. Dead bodies rise. 2. God's people hidden away in God's chambers (heaven) while the wrath is poured out. Then he returns to judge the I inhabitants of the earth. Also revelation 3:3: speaking to the churches: Because you have kept the word of my patience, I will keep you FROM the HOUR of trial which is to come upon the whole earth." Keeping us from the trial means we are not here. 7 year tribulation is clearly in the scriptures. The bible is very clear that the tribulation is 1260 + 1290 days = 7 360 day years.. saying the tribulation is not 7 years really shows you do not understand go-to the video producer
@bmgonzalez77
@bmgonzalez77 4 жыл бұрын
Andrea Mendoza Mathew 24 Was not for the church at that moment Jesus was preaching the gospel of the kingdom of got not grace because his sacrifice was not accomplished yet. The church was a mystery at that moment. “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭what gospel he was preaching, the answer is the kingdom. The kingdom of God was to come as a thief, meaning nobody know when. “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” Luke‬ ‭17:20‬ ‭ To us was preached the Gospel of Jesus, witch is totally different from the kingdom. The Jews were waiting for the messiah to restore their kingdom that is why I was very impressed for them, Instead they rejected him. “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.” John‬ ‭1:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬ If you go the the book of Thessalonians they are two different events. “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” ‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4:17‬ ‭ These ones ore not taken one by one like it says in Matthew this ones are call to the air. “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:31‬ ‭This are gather together by the Angels and the other ones from Thessalonians are call by Jesus him self. The ones that are gather by the Angels are the Jews who will be bring back to Their land. “And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness.” Zechariah‬ ‭8:8‬ ‭ Knowing that when the Jews as the question to Jesus then It will make more sense. “And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬. First question - the destruction of the temple - present Second - sign of you coming to take over (after the millennium) - the restoration of the Kingdom Third - the wrath of God and the end of the word. After the church has being taken. You see when Jesus open the first seal the Church has to be there for witness and after revelation 3 the church its in heaven; “And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭5:9-10‬ ‭ “And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭5:11-12‬ ‭
@farrekkamke9941
@farrekkamke9941 4 жыл бұрын
The rapture is called the coming of the Lord 1 Thessalonians 4:15. Don't let the word coming throw you off
@LanceGrey
@LanceGrey 2 жыл бұрын
Discuss everything else if you don't know.. . . . "Day of the Lord" . . . is a separate event. *AFTER* the "great tribulation" 2Thess tells us the order. . . . "Day of the Lord" . . . is the final event.
@jolavernechuklochik1544
@jolavernechuklochik1544 5 жыл бұрын
I love listening to u brother doug
@danielleblanc8952
@danielleblanc8952 2 жыл бұрын
The tribulation is 1335 days. Jesus will return on the last day of the tribulation. But when is the tribulation? It starts with a global earthquake. Count down from 1335 day. ww3 will happen first. Jesus said, "if I was not to cut those days short no flesh would survive". Jesus will stop WW3 with a global earthquake. Then God wrath begins with 4 trumpets and the 4th seal. Doug does this sound right to you and your listener's.
@PastorBatchelor
@PastorBatchelor 2 жыл бұрын
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@sdamom621
@sdamom621 5 жыл бұрын
May the Lord prepare our heart and mind to stand for His glory, now and always.
@isaiahjaimes5580
@isaiahjaimes5580 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavyMay I ask you why you think we are a cult
@isaiahjaimes5580
@isaiahjaimes5580 5 жыл бұрын
Stay strong sister
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 5 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahjaimes5580 Only those trapped in a Cult can read Galatians chapter 4 and especially 21-31 and not even blink... And I will be honest I was at one point but I thank God I was able to see the purity of the Gospel, I am no longer destined to be cast out like the bondwoman and her children.
@slojogojo2766
@slojogojo2766 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone of the FEW that teach the TRUTH! Jesus was asked what will be the sign of his coming in Matthew 24 and he starts with MANY will come in his name DECEIVING MANY then there will be a FALLING AWAY FROM FAITH "Apostasia" pretribbers twist that word to mean to be "caught up" but when did anyone ever "fall up"? 2 Timothy 2 18 who concerning the TRUTH have ERRED, saying the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 2 Timothy 4 3 For the time will come when they WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; but after their own lusts shall they HEAP to themselves TEACHERS, having ITCHING EARS; 4 And they shall TURN AWAY their EARS FROM the TRUTH, and SHALL be TURNED UNTO FABLES?
@ronaldvalentine5444
@ronaldvalentine5444 4 жыл бұрын
The rapture an the second coming are very different events. Paul said the rapture is a mystery given to him by the word of the Lord. The second coming was well known and taught throughout the old and new testaments.
@queenesther743
@queenesther743 Жыл бұрын
Amen pastor Doug
@robertproctor7771
@robertproctor7771 5 жыл бұрын
The WRATH of God*/Christ Jesus* is directly after he takes his Bride from the Earth.
@jose_xforward6297
@jose_xforward6297 5 жыл бұрын
Caribbean Ín The House no....If that was true then why would Jesus come back the 2nd time.... The rapture is for the bride and his people, and the 2nd coming of Christ is Jesus rescuing Israel, the 2nd coming of Christ all eye will see him, and the Rapture is in a blink of an eye
@robertproctor7771
@robertproctor7771 5 жыл бұрын
@@jose_xforward6297 ] The Bride and his people you say. The Bride is the Church, that represents his people.
@robertproctor7771
@robertproctor7771 5 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House] God*/Christ Jesus* is salvation. He is available to anyone that wants to seek him. AMEN
@robertproctor7771
@robertproctor7771 5 жыл бұрын
@James Chin ] INDEED they are. 1st one then the other.
@robertproctor7771
@robertproctor7771 5 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House ] I don,t deal with NAY SAYERS. YOU ARE ONE ONE OF THEM.
@cometblazt
@cometblazt 3 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the rapture too bad, Jesus himself said: you will be handed over to tribulation, hated by all nations and killed for my sake's name. That settles the matter for good. The day of the lord is at the end of the age and then judgement, the elect for salvation and not wrath, the evil doers to wrath and contempt. Only ONE coming of the lord. We have a long way to go yet, so better pray for the lord to protect us.
@renee8396
@renee8396 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath ❤❤
@jose_xforward6297
@jose_xforward6297 5 жыл бұрын
Caribbean Ín The House what???? There is a salvation for people who believe and love God, John 3:16, there is salvation for whites blacks Browns EVERYONE! How dare you say there is no salvation
@truetalk5023
@truetalk5023 5 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House Both my sisters are named Renee.... And you're not very nice. 🛡👀🙏
@danispieceofhistoryhistory1938
@danispieceofhistoryhistory1938 5 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House God loves everybody, if he hated whites he wouldn't have made them. You're clearly a troll lol
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@Caribbean Ín The House Alas, who can go to heaven? Sounds like it's all in vain...
@truetalk5023
@truetalk5023 5 жыл бұрын
I don't remember maybe they remove the comment
@followerofchrist77777
@followerofchrist77777 2 жыл бұрын
Why are we told we the bride are not appointed to God's wrath then if you're saying the great tribulation is God's wrath and we the bride will be appointed to it?
@mygodisyahweh8634
@mygodisyahweh8634 Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 5 жыл бұрын
Peace to you Mr. Bachelor. Mr Bachelor I have to say thank you for presenting Jesus Christ to me. It was watching your series that got me out of the darkness of the Jehovah's Witnesses view of Jesus and introduced me to him and the Holy Spirit. I praise you for that but I must challenge your presentation on the rapture. But I partially understand because this is an institutional view. I have since left Adventism (or any Galatian church) and increased my level of faith on Jesus finished work on the Cross for me. This might be a long post but its full of what God has led me to as a more accurate and literal acceptance of the Holy Scriptures. You started at Daniel 12:1-2 and this is also what I used to believe as I was also a believer of replacement theology but now that I am not I can clearly see that "Daniel's people" are not Christians but they are fellow Jewish people. Gabriel specifically said _Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over _*_the sons of your people_* So is it not honest to then skip to 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 and prove this by saying the dead in Christ will rise first. How can that be? Does Daniel know Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior? He's not dead in Christ, he went to Abraham's bosom. Then you continued and mentioned some believe in pre-tribulation rapture, mid-tribulation rapture, and post tribulation rapture.... Guess what? *Thats ALL correct* !! There are exactly three raptures and all three are evidenced in the book of Revelation and the first and last are in Matthew 24. The three harvests of people correspond to the three harvests of ancient Israel, which are Barley harvest which represent the church, wheat harvest which represents the tribulation gentiles, and grape harvest which represents the remnant of Israel. Revelation 7:14 as you mentioned is the wheat harvest. -------- _These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb_ -------- Interesting question, but haven't we already washed our robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb? We already have salvation given to us by the grace of God before this tribulation period started. But God's love is SO great that once the rapture happens and he sets the prophecy clock straight by himself, people who didn't believe the gospel will have the chance to finally have some EVIDENCE that God is real although they will have to get past Satan's lie and be faithful until death for the Lord. In Matthew 24 Jesus does explain the events of the end-times. But again if we are to be honest we see some things here pertaining to Israel. For the Lord said: *_then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains_* and again *_But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath_* Now I'm not going to get into the whole Sabbath debate here but we see a clear reference to people who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. Is anyone watching this video located in Judea? and besides modern-day Galatians the body of Christ doesn't have to fear anything about running for your life on the Sabbath but if you lived in ISRAEL you might because they have traveling restrictions on the Sabbath day. So praying that your flight isn't on the Sabbath if you lived in Israel would make sense if you are Jewish. When Jesus was explaining the events of the end-times he was explaining the time of Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30:7) Now this is very important. Christ gave us details on what would happen before the coming of the son of man and I'm going to quote from the New English Bible --- _But as for that day and hour no one knows it not even the angels in heaven except the Father alone. For just like the days of Noah were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. For in those days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. _*_And they knew NOTHING_*_ until the flood came and took them all away. It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man_ -( Matthew 24:36-39 ) --- Does this passage describe a world that is enduring a tribulation that no nation has ever seen? Or does this describe a day like half off specials at Walmart? In Luke's account it says people will be planting and building like in the days of Sodom. Humanity is going on as if nothing is going to happen and today is an exact reflection of Noah's day.... But then Christ says this: --- _Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one left. There will be two women grinding grain with a mill; one will be taken and one left_ -( Matthew 24:40-41 ) --- And there you have it out of nowhere with absolutely NO WARNING one person is taken and the other is left. {If you think taken means to judgement please look up the Greek words paralambano and apheimi as there is no mistake what Christ mean by taken.} This is the first rapture, the age of the gentiles are over and God goes back to Israel's last "seven" (Daniel 9:24) that he owes the nation of Israel. God is not done with Israel for it is written: _So I ask, God has not rejected his people, has he? Absolutely not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew! Do you not know what the scripture says about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel_ ? -( Romans 11:1-2 ) _For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: A partial hardening has happened to Israel until the full number of the Gentiles has come in_ -( Romans 11:25 ) Ungodliness will be removed from Jacob on the sake of the promise God made with Abraham. Israel is blind right now but they will come to realize that Jesus Christ is their Messiah and will in the end say "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" As a matter of fact God himself went a step further and issued a challenge to all mankind. _The Lord affirms, “The descendants of Israel will not cease forever to be a nation in my sight. That could only happen if the fixed ordering of the heavenly lights were to cease to operate before me_ _The Lord says, *I will not* reject all the descendants of Israel because of all that they have done.That could only happen *if* the heavens above could be measured or the foundations of the earth below could all be explored,” says the Lord_ - Jeremiah 31:35-37 So unless anyone has taken the challenge to take a measuring tape and tell how many square feet the heavens are or if you found those foundations... then you can tell me that the nation of Israel has nothing to do with God's salvation. If you give what belongs to Israel then you can see the rapture of the church but if you cannot because of institutional reasons then you are forced to "Christianize" prophecies such as the man of sin sitting in the temple of God claiming himself to be God when this is a clear literal temple he's talking about. A temple that the Sanhedrin want to be built NOW. Whew that was lengthy but I had to go over much... as anyways even if you don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture you'll still go in it as long as your walk with the Lord is true. God bless you Mr. Bachelor and thank you for bringing me to Christ.
@iheartart9954
@iheartart9954 5 жыл бұрын
Michael 534 amen! Very well said. Thank you for taking the time to share this truth. Satan wants everyone to think they have plenty of time to repent, spreading a false post trib doctrine which says we have time because we haven’t seen the peace deal or the antichrist yet. But Jesus warned us in the parables to be ready and watching with oil in our lamps because He would come like a thief in the night (imminent). God bless you!
@Zattat005
@Zattat005 5 жыл бұрын
If you are Christs then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise Gal 3:29. So even though Christians are not natural descendants of Abraham, they are counted as heirs because they believe in Christ. They are grafted into the same Olive tree from which Jews who also believe in Jesus form the natural branches. Rom 11. A jew is not one outwardly, but inwardly Rom 2:28-29. There is neither greek or gentile in Christ - all are the same Rom 10:12 Therefore Dan 12 refers to all believers in Christ who shall be saved. Thy people refers to the children of God, whether Jew or Gentile. Remember Daniel was given prophecies that span from Daniels day to the end of the world. Dan 12 is talking about the end of the world which affects all who follow Jesus.
@Rydonittelo
@Rydonittelo 2 жыл бұрын
The rapture is pretty unique to the Christianity in the USA. Most Christians across the world aren't tought this , it's an American concept so I'll keep out of this question. God bless everyone ❤✝️
@soldierforgod1477
@soldierforgod1477 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent preaching
@Ears14U
@Ears14U 5 жыл бұрын
Doug is a self taught pastor with no theological credentials. Heck, he's a high school dropout. And you still value his heretical teachings? Do the research on him.
@captrix00
@captrix00 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ears14U did jesus go to school or any of the disciples? He was a druggie that lived like a bum while his father was living the life. Not until he found an old dusty bible someone left did he find the calling. Just by someone dropping out of highschool and gaining actual life wisdom, they cant have good reasoning? Lets look at some famous people of scripture and see how they were: noah was a drunk; jacob was a liar; joseph was abused; sampson was a womanizer; elijah was suicidal; isaiah preached naked; jonah ran from the lord; peter denied christ; disciples fell asleep while praying! I love your space pic of the galaxy! They teach you that in your school about the beauty of cosmos? Earth is flat by the way with a dome above our head that we cant reach. That little tiny head of yours spinning yet, or is it the fake rotational speed of the blue marble?
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 5 жыл бұрын
My “spots” were washed away by the blood of Jesus He became our sins to gift us the righteousness of God Ephesians 2:8-10 The handiwork done in me is all glory to the Holy Spirit Hebrews ch 10 perfect sacrifice forever once and for all 2 Corinthians ch 5
@alanbourbeau24
@alanbourbeau24 5 жыл бұрын
I’m no Seventh Day Adventist Christian like Doug here but he does have a good and valid point. Jesus himself explicitly said that the end of the world and the second coming is not set in stone. Only God knows. We must be vigilant and stand firm during the dark days.
@flaviousmercurious2208
@flaviousmercurious2208 2 жыл бұрын
Secret rapture doctrine was not taught by the apostles or the early church. It is the false doctrine of John Nelson Darby also known as dispensationalism circa 1820s.
@billclass5847
@billclass5847 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. *How many millions have died, blessing, praising and thanking God for their false teachers and false prophets which taught them.* Christ warned MANY false prophets would come and deceive MANY.
@Miracles895
@Miracles895 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a seventh days Adventist but I'm stop goin in church please pray for me so I could come closer to God
@Jesusexplains
@Jesusexplains 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Miracle ❤️ You’re probably closer to God than you think. Sometimes when we think we’re failing is when Jesus is carrying us - like mentioned in “Footprints in the Sand”. Could I suggest that you simply open your Bible and read, or listen to Alexander Scourby read the Gospels to you, and you’ll feel how much Jesus loves you. I’m not a SDA, but I’ve had a lotta sweet fellowship with them in my travels. (I’m simply a Christian, of no particular denomination. I love Jesus, witness Jesus to others, and fellowship wherever I am. I like the song, “I care not what church you belong to, just as long as for Calvary you stand!”)
@Miracles895
@Miracles895 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jesusexplains I think it's time to follow Jesus the right way my friend Jesus loves you and your family and thnx 4 your comments I really appreciate it
@Jesusexplains
@Jesusexplains 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Miracle 👍 God bless you!
@rogerknightlinger3755
@rogerknightlinger3755 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ fill Jeff up with the Holy Spirit
@Miracles895
@Miracles895 5 жыл бұрын
@@rogerknightlinger3755 I appreciate it thnx
@madelinebugeja9796
@madelinebugeja9796 5 жыл бұрын
Those that go through the trib are those who do not believe like the Jewish people and those who reject Christ after they knew about Jesus and knew what He did for us, and even saw the rapture has happened. PRAY TO BE FOUND WORTHY TO ESCAPE.
@Dwbolan77
@Dwbolan77 5 жыл бұрын
So your saying that Christ comes 4 times? ..his birth, the rapture, the 2nd coming, and then when he brings the New Jerusalem down?...Or are you suggesting that the rapture is the 2nd coming... since 2nd would mean the 2nd time hes back?..Point being the Rapture and the 2nd coming are the same events.
@madelinebugeja9796
@madelinebugeja9796 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dwbolan77 Jesus first comes in the clouds, the bible says that plain and simple, He comes for all those who believe in Him, that is why the bible says the Jews will be provoked to Jealousy. They along with all unbelievers will have to go through the trib. There are two comings in the bible, one in the clouds, Jesus does not step on earth, the dead in Him will rise, those who are alive and believe are changed in a twinkling of an eye thus having a body that can enter the chambers that Jesus has prepared for them, He told us that He was going to prepare these mentions, for us, for when He comes for us. He will hide us for a while, shelter us from what will happen on earth, we would b back with Him to earth seven years later to see His victory over Satan and evil He would rule. It does not make sense that we are taken up at the end of the trib to then come with Him to earth again for Him to rule. I respect everyone's opinion, but logic tells me that if Jesus told us He was going to prepare a place for us, then that shows us that we would be taken out of this earth in our new bodies as a reward for our faith in Him. That was not done with the first followers because the time was not then, in fact in Daniel we read that what was being said to him was for the end times. God did protect certain people in the bible because it was not their time yet, and not the end, He protected them so they help Him in His plan. Now all things are coming together all at once. We are told to be found worthy to escape all that is coming on this earth, escape means get away from it not stay in it, and be protected. Jesus, could not even save the apostles and those who where killed because of Him, that was because it was not the time of the end, it was not rapture time. We are in the time of the end, we are the once that were told to be ready with the lamps filled with the oil of faith, so when the groom comes for us to take us to His house we are ready. Five were wise the believers were, the other foolish once are those who missed the bridegroom as they had no oil, no faith.
@Dwbolan77
@Dwbolan77 5 жыл бұрын
@@madelinebugeja9796 Well after the Tribulation, the 2nd coming occurs The wicked are destroyed by the brightness of his coming.. we are caught up and meet him in the air and changed.. like you mentioned.. We then go to heaven for 1,000 years. We then come down to Earth after that 1,000 years with the New Jerusalem.. The wicked are raised up for God to pass his final Judgment which is called the Great White Throne Judgement and this is when fire falls from heaven, consuming the wicked. The Earth is soon made new and we live and reign with Christ forever.
@madelinebugeja9796
@madelinebugeja9796 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dwbolan77 Notice that the wicked only are raised from the dead for the judgment, does that not give you a hint that there are two resurrections? One of the believers who died in Christ, the rest of the dead were not resurrected till after the millennium. Why would God resurrect the believers in Jesus before that if there is a trib going on?
@Dwbolan77
@Dwbolan77 5 жыл бұрын
@@madelinebugeja9796 No your missing it.... The Tribulation takes place when everyone on the earth..the last, judgment of the tribulation is the 2nd coming of Christ upon the wicked. Like I said before, the Saved go through the Trib but none of the plagues fall upon them. Just like they didnt fall on the Jews in Egypt .They are then destroyed by his Brightness. as the final plague of the trib.. All the saved who were raised and were alive ascend into Heaven We then spend 1,000 years in Heaven. Then come back after for God to pass his final judgement upon the wicked.
@savedbyjesus6912
@savedbyjesus6912 5 жыл бұрын
After the tribulation as the bible says. There is one gathering (rapture) and Jesus is very clear that we will be gathered just after the tribulation of those days and then will sudden destruction come upon them (Gods wrath, The day of the Lord)
@rightdoctrine3922
@rightdoctrine3922 5 жыл бұрын
oh, an heresicko
@savedbyjesus6912
@savedbyjesus6912 5 жыл бұрын
Right Doctrine ?
@randsollie7921
@randsollie7921 5 жыл бұрын
Then why would He tell us to pray we are worthy to escape all that is coming on everyone on earth? He says EVERYONE in the world we be effected, but pray you are found worthy to escape (the world) and stand before the Son of Man. Will He be here during the GT, too? I dont think so.
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
SavedBYJesus He was speaking to the Jews not the body of Christ
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
James Chin no it won’t
@brianpowell5182
@brianpowell5182 4 ай бұрын
Thank you sir!👍🫡
@airplane800
@airplane800 5 жыл бұрын
Sincerely you can find much better explanations with guys like John Hagee, Perry Stone, Hal Lindsey, and at least 150 other prophecy scholars. I can see clear that Doug doesn't understand the concept of the Jewish weeding. He probably never really studied the topic but accepted the pre-stablished concepts from his denomination. He is very good in some topics but remember that he wears a denominational glasses. The problem is not the verses he mentioned but the verses that he omitted. You will just going to know how much Doug doesn't know when you hear with the people that really know. Just an example is that the Philadelphia church represents the faithful Christian. Look what Jesus says to the faithful Christian in Rev 3:10 - Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. Doug should be humble and learn with other scholars outside his denomination.
@80sMetalMyke
@80sMetalMyke 5 жыл бұрын
airplane800 don’t follow those people. They unintentionally are teaching incorrect doctrine. Check out Rodney Beaulieu, Scott Clarke.
@airplane800
@airplane800 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard about those guys. Maybe they are the ones unintentionally teaching incorrect doctrine.
@broandrew2523
@broandrew2523 5 жыл бұрын
Can i tell you that Pastor is right with this message. Why don't you study this matter for yourself and seek GOD's full counsel?
@airplane800
@airplane800 4 жыл бұрын
@PlowsharesintoSwords So... you are the man who knows at all and has the right to judge who is a liar. I am curious what kind of credentials you have. If you take your denominational glass it may help you the see better.
@mountaintruth1deeds533
@mountaintruth1deeds533 4 жыл бұрын
Sincerely wrong, wrath and tribulation are completely different things. Scripture is clear, left behind is antithetical and business for the foolish.
@biblehistoryscience3530
@biblehistoryscience3530 4 жыл бұрын
A certain user who shall remain anonymous deleted our conversation to make the following information go away, and then he posted a new thread about the day of the Lord (or the “day of Christ,” as the vast majority of 2 Thess 2 Greek manuscripts read). Now, I respect this channel for not deleting honest conversations, and I believe the truth has nothing to fear from falsehoods, so I am reposting my comments where they will be safe, and perhaps this will help someone else. “Paul did not say in 2 Thess 2 that the day of the Lord is synonymous with the Rapture, but if you believe that, then you believe Paul wrote a letter to inform them that the Rapture had not happened so they should stop fearing that the day of the day of the Rapture was present. That makes no sense. Paul actually said that he was writing to support the Rapture so they not fear as though the day of Christ was present because it cannot be until the apostasy happens first then the man of sin manifests, BUT the one now restraining him must _ginomai_ “arise” out of the middle then he will manifest. Either Paul gave them this timeline (Rapture > Apostasy > Antichrist > Great Tribulation), or he gave them a timeline without the Rapture on it to support the Rapture and calm their fears of the great tribulation, which makes no sense.” Then I asked: “how could Paul support the Rapture and calm their fears by giving them a timeline without the Rapture on it but that instead basically shows the Lord unleashing Satan on them? And while the Rapture does take place at the 6th Seal, the great tribulation does not start until after the 7th Seal, as angels are seen continuing to restrain the start during the Israelite revival and celebration of church saints entering heaven. Finally, Matt 24:29-31 cannot show the Rapture because Jesus taught this using clear language during a time when the Rapture was still a hidden mystery. Jesus only taught the Rapture using the veiled language of things like parables and metaphors. It was Paul thru whom the Rapture mystery was first revealed.” Finally, I said: “Paul said in Rom 11:25-26 that Israel was partly hardened until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, and in this way _all Israel_ shall be saved. This is fulfilled at the 6th Seal where angels continue restraining the great tribulation during a revival among _all 12 tribes_ of Israel while raptured church saints from all nations celebrate their entry into heaven. The great tribulation happens across Trumpets 1-6, then the wrath of God is poured out after the 7th Trumpet in 7 Bowls, then Jesus returns and destroys the beasts and everyone who takes the mark (Rev 19), then he resurrects tribulation saints and sets up his 1,000-year kingdom on earth (Rev 20). So the Rapture is what most would call mid-trib, but there is very little information about what happens during the 3.5 years before the great tribulation, apart from Israel building a temple.”
@gerard1954
@gerard1954 4 жыл бұрын
There is a Difference between going through tribulation and God’s wrath being poured out when God’s wrath is poured out it’s never upon the righteous The great tribulation is unlike any that’s ever come before it or will ever come after it so there’s a difference The great tribulation is unlike any that’s ever come before it or will ever come after it so there’s a difference My question is what would be the point of the rapture happening after the tribulation when Jesus set up his kingdom you mean we get snatched up into the clouds and then come back down with him .? So when is the marriage feast Seven years is not a assumption it’s the 70th week of Daniel just like to 69 weeks before that were weeks of years it’s not an assumption
@JimmyCarol100
@JimmyCarol100 3 жыл бұрын
We will do the U-turn. That's exactly what the Greek word apantesis=G529=meet means, just do a word study on it and compare Scripture with Scripture. Used 4 times in the NT, Mat 25:1 & 6, Acts 28:15 & 1 Thes 4:17. Hint, hint, the virgins are told to go out and meet the bridegroom, then return with him to where they had waited and shut the door for the marriage feast. Also when brethren in Rome heard Paul was on his way they left Rome and got as far as Appii forum & 3 taverns before they meet him, then they escorted him on into Rome. Now just apply this meaning of the word apantesis to 1 Thes 4:17. GOD bless
@jamesstumpff7774
@jamesstumpff7774 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with pretribbers is they think they are raptured and then the wedding….right?….huge problem!….someone is missing….Abrahams kids. I think we can be certain there won’t be two weddings Remember that SO MUCH church doctrine and identity was CRAFTED in the absence of Israel. I have been talking to a preterist, they flatly deny Israel still! And I don’t really know any Catholics, but they are in the same boat.
@jamesstumpff7774
@jamesstumpff7774 2 жыл бұрын
Ok …what would be the point of any saint “missing” the tribulation when there are so many blessings poured OUT ON THOSE SAINTS….the pretribbers are NO WHERE in Revelation Gods going to cleanse and purify every believer in this worldwide fire. The American apostate church will likely show the tiniest fraction of true believers. Do any study on church MEMBER activity, bible reading, just a few, tithing dismal, prayer and fasting, nonexistent….witnessing!!! I firmly believe if a rapture happened right now, this country wouldn’t lose enough people to even make the news. Think about it, how many news media folk or politicians or athletes or entertainers will be missing….NO ONE….ok maybe a few Christian artists, maybe 2 politicians, and 3 athletes! We’ve murdered 65 million babies for CONVENIENCE.
@gerard1954
@gerard1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesstumpff7774 first the dead in Christ rise then we who are alive and remain will be caught up . Abrahams kids ? If they have come to Christ they will rise or if still living be caught up if they too have come to know Jesus as the messiah. God already calls israel his wife . Jesus on the other hand calls his church his bride that’s the wedding we await. If you know anything about Galilean wedding you know that the bride and groom are by themselves for 7 days then the feast begins when they come out of the wedding chambers . In our case it’s 7 years . As he said in Isaiah 26:20 come into your chambers until the indignation has passed. Why is it no one can explain the contradictions to me if there is no pre trib rapture. How about you want to give it a try . If yes I’ll put them up for you . And of course I’m not a preterits or Catholic or Calvinist
@jamesstumpff7774
@jamesstumpff7774 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerard1954 ok I just reread Isaiah 26:20…and you get pretrib rapture somewhere in that??? Dude, that’s more impressive than Catholics and mariology from Genesis Ok Bible fragments are giving you trouble….let’s not worry about troubling fragments…there’s an entire book about the tribulation AND the rapture. Let’s see if you can find some passage that speaks of a church (excluding Jews). So an anti-Semitic “church” that hates God’s people and is yet somehow highly favored by the King of the Jews to vacation in Heaven while the whole world undergoes hell on earth By the way, did you even read Isaiah 26, or just go to a fragment your teacher gave you? In verse 3 he explains how saints can be at PEACE right in the middle of the tribulation! At the end, he explains this tribulation is headed to the entire world….”conceal its SLAIN NO LONGER”….do you know how the bodies of 65 million babies were conceiled??? Have you no idea the tribulation you and I deserve….NEED? How many of your church people are guilty??? How about EVERYONE. WHEN God begins to burn this sick nation to the ground, real Christians won’t be looking skyward, crying come get us we’re ready for our party We’ll be reading Ps 51 over and over again…and weeping….not planning vacation outings in paradise
@pierreferguson1300
@pierreferguson1300 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24:29-31
@christskingdom8950
@christskingdom8950 4 жыл бұрын
I am pre wrath but not pre Trib. What do you do with Isaiah 26:19-27:2?
@nicholaschuma6304
@nicholaschuma6304 3 жыл бұрын
Yea like before Revelation 16
@christskingdom8950
@christskingdom8950 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaschuma6304 Actually, more like Rev 8. The end of Rev 6 indicates the onset of the wrath of the Lamb. Rev 7 occur after Rev 6 (confirmed by the use of the Greek Meta Tauta / "after these things"). In 7 we see the sealed Jews and then the Rapture (instantaneous event to the END of the 6th seal in Rev 6) . Rev 8 is the onset of that "Wrath."
@nicholaschuma6304
@nicholaschuma6304 3 жыл бұрын
@@christskingdom8950 I just pray that whenever the time it will be that we will watch until Our Lord comes back to take us🙂🙂🙏I pray may HE the Spirit of Truth guide and strengthen us unto the coming of our Lord
@imafollowerofjesuschrist4268
@imafollowerofjesuschrist4268 5 жыл бұрын
Doug I watch ur church channel on TV every night
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy What is the unpardonable sin?
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy Maybe you should then stop spreading lies.
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy I take it then that you don't know what the unpardonable sin is?
@bryanstockhausen5077
@bryanstockhausen5077 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy the Pope speaks blasphemy and GOD forgives sin and they worship idols and worship the "sun"day
@bryanstockhausen5077
@bryanstockhausen5077 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy if you are defending the catholic church you are lost and dont read revelation. I'm not talking about catholic people in the church but the high Leaders and the organization . Many good people are catholic but they do not study scripture enough to know what the true sabbath day is or about how only Jesus and The Father of creation can forgive sins
@johnny2303
@johnny2303 4 жыл бұрын
There is no secret rapture. This was brought about by a man named Darby around 1830. It was then made more popular by Scofield in his reference bible.
@Aeterny
@Aeterny 4 жыл бұрын
It's too late to warn them away from this, many are going to fall away from Jesus Christ all because they'll think the Heavenly Father wants to abuse us.
@despereauxxx
@despereauxxx 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@SammyDaKid
@SammyDaKid 4 жыл бұрын
Go ahead and try to denie when the tasks are getting completed right infront of our eyes,rivers in turkey turned red,the united states made a deal with isreal and i think the bible said that we will go to war right after,dont quote me on that,then the devil will show himself and right as that happens jesus will come back to earth.
@chamceymendiola3900
@chamceymendiola3900 4 жыл бұрын
I'm nervous i wish that it's gonna be 2025
@chamceymendiola3900
@chamceymendiola3900 4 жыл бұрын
And be happy
@messengerisrael3817
@messengerisrael3817 5 жыл бұрын
Can anyone please answer these questions ? 1. Are we under a covenant as stated in Jeremiah 31:31-34 , and Hebrews 8:6-13 ? If so what is the covenant ? 2. Who are the parties that make up the covenant ? 3. What is meant by the word mediator ? 4. Define Moses and Christ role in the covenant/s ? 5. Is the covenant through Moses different from the covenant through Christ ? 6. What role does the Father play in the covenant/s ? 7. If there is a different between the covenant through Moses and Christ , what is it ? 8. Were all people under the covenant through Moses , and are all people under the covenant through Christ ? 9. Are all people under the laws of God ? 10. What is the Church ? 11. What does it means when Paul said in Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God ? and Exodus 12:49 One law shall be to him that is home born , and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you ? When you can answer these questions , then you will understand how false prophets/shepherds/pastors/teachers had deceived most of the people for almost 2000 years . Shalom !
@bankerlies6121
@bankerlies6121 5 жыл бұрын
After the tribulation.and only after the tribulation.
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
This man teachings false
@Sanctified57
@Sanctified57 5 жыл бұрын
ZZZ Productions I pray The Lord will open your eyes to the truth that Doug is speaking
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 5 жыл бұрын
Sanctified57 Okay I’ll show you the contradiction. Ephesians 4:30 says that a believer is sealed with the Holy Spirit till the day of redemption. Which is the rapture. So I guess if we are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the rapture I guess we can take the mark of the beast and still go to Heaven right??? So what’s the whole point of persecution if we still will be saved base offf of Ephesians 4:30? You see that contradiction? You idiot post tribbers! It’s grace through faith right now right? During the Tribulation it will be faith + works but explain that contradiction then?
@danielb2789
@danielb2789 4 жыл бұрын
@@zzzproductions117 I know it been 8 month but let me make somthing clear the second 3,5 years of the great tribulations will Come from the antichrist and his people we will get trough the hate of the world for christ, just like jesus before being put on the cross. but we will escape by the rapture wich is the day of christ at the end of the trib- then the day of the lord thé wrath will come. Read it in NKjv it says specificly the World tribulations Matthew 24:9 Matthew 24 :29-31 Révélation 7:13-15
@smiiler1000
@smiiler1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@zzzproductions117 A bit strong there, but I have to say I totally agree with you.
@PSALM-rj1cm
@PSALM-rj1cm 4 жыл бұрын
Pastor Doug, you're not differentiating between Israel's expectation and the body of Christ's expectation. Please study "right division"(2 Tim 2:15)...there is a difference between "the gospel of the circumcision" and "the gospel of the UNcircumcision"(Galatians 2:, Acts 18:), and Paul even warns that "we shall be judged according to HIS gospel"(Romans 2:16). Was Enoch caught up alive? Was Elijah caught up alive? Is meeting the Lord in the clouds the same event as Christ setting foot on the Mt. of Olives.
@anitaprasad9719
@anitaprasad9719 5 жыл бұрын
The rapture and the second coming are two entirely different events. So I believe in a pretrib. Rapture His children are not subject to wrath. You ought to get it a little bit correct.
@Dwbolan77
@Dwbolan77 5 жыл бұрын
Actually no, they are the same thing. The Rapture simply means being "caught up" in the 2nd coming we are "caught up" to meet him in the air. And we do not have the 7 last plagues falling on the saved.. We go through them... they plagues fall on the world and the wicked. This is why the scripture says... that 10,000 may fall on one side and 1,000 on the other but it will not come towards your dwelling. In fact The Anti Christ sends a decree out against Gods true people to kill them because these plagues are not falling on them... they are blamed for the reason they the plagues have fallen to begin with.
@jimoaks9270
@jimoaks9270 5 жыл бұрын
the tribulation is God’s redemption plan for the jews and their kingdom. too many of you try to insert the church (body of Christ saved by the gospel of grace) into Revelation and it doesn’t fit.
@tjenkins7070
@tjenkins7070 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimoaks9270 please provide the scriptures that prove your point so that we all can learn and study and not debate opinions. Thank you kind sir.
@rightdoctrine3922
@rightdoctrine3922 5 жыл бұрын
yeah Bolan, you nut sac-brained
@echoofthevoiceinthewildern3008
@echoofthevoiceinthewildern3008 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimoaks9270 James chapter 12 verse 1 Proclaims when tribulation is about, bless is the man who who is tried and recieves the crown of life. Look at it like this friend, jesus and his 12 Apostles went threw tribulation, this was the best church that ever walked the earth, and these men went threw tribulation and trials, We are the worse church to be on the earth, the majority of us have the luxury of a nice home with heat and air conditioning, and we have the government of the USA constitution protection from persecution, Revelation chapter 3 verse 13 to 16 We are filled with riches and need nothing but inreality we are spiritual bankrupt, And the majority states we will be rapture before tribulations, The only trials I had in life is what channel to watch on TV, for the USA government protect my religion as a individual, Now I don't consider my self a righteous individual, for I'm a sinner, may not steal. kill or worship false Gods our try to harm my neighbors in any way, but I still have my demon to fight, So my tribulation will come if I'm alive for the mark of the beast sinerio, for I do every now and then witness to my neighbor and nobody lays a hand on me, like they did the apostle, or is my life ever threatened. And the majority dosen't understand that it's our own religion made by man philosophy and their traditions in jesus name that will bring on the mark of the beast sinerio , Jesus tribulation came from his own people religion of Judaism, for jesus goal was to free the Jews from their religion, and most of them hated him for that, Today jesus is doing his best to try to save us from our own religion, threw the final message of Elijah as the Elijah message tried to save them from the religion of baal and then Judaism and of today what is known as the babylonian religion . And already here and established by men twisting scripture in the name of jesus, Also nobody going any where until the gospel has been preach as a witness to all nations and the body of christ is tried for their loyalty so they can be found worthy of the groom bride , Peace friend.
@michaelsburger665
@michaelsburger665 Жыл бұрын
the bible writes you will seek death but will not find it, you cannot hide the mountains can fall on you but you cannot hide from God on His throne
@boytapanganvlogs
@boytapanganvlogs 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this pastor
@beppiek
@beppiek 5 жыл бұрын
“That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous. For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭2:20-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore. For the Lord loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭37:27-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@beppiek
@beppiek 5 жыл бұрын
THE PERFECT SHALL REMAIN IN IT ... NOT REMOVED FROM IT JUST SAYIN
@beppiek
@beppiek 5 жыл бұрын
“He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in theTIME OF HARVEST I WILL SAY TO THE REAPERS GATHER FIRST THE TARES and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@beppiek
@beppiek 5 жыл бұрын
“That no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we are appointed thereunto. For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that WE SHOULD SUFFER TRIBULATION; even as it came to pass, and ye know.” ‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭3:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 5 жыл бұрын
There IS a pre tribulation rapture Matthew 24:37-44 No one is going to be drinking & marrying in a tribulation 1 Thessalonians 4:18 Encourage one another “Brother/sister I’d like to encourage you, get your best sneakers & run for your life!!!!” 🤦‍♀️
@brendac4283
@brendac4283 5 жыл бұрын
In Matthew 24:38-39, Jesus says, "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." Notice that it is the coming of the Son of Man that is being referenced here. Next, notice how "they" are eating, drinking, etc. until the day when Noah entered the ark and "they" were unaware and were swept away. It is NOT the believers and the righteous doing these things. It is the wicked participating in eating, drinking, marrying etc. In Noah's day "they" were UNAWARE what was happening despite the fact that pairs of many animals were coming and being loaded onto the ark. We are told in the book Daniel that the AC will be very successful. We are also told in Revelation that people who take the mark of the beast will be able to BUY and SELL. The people who make the choice to follow the AC will be living with the "winning" team and they are still able to live a "normal" life of buying and selling....and eating, drinking, and marrying. They are completely UNAWARE despite the obvious things believers will notice.
@brendac4283
@brendac4283 5 жыл бұрын
Saved Sinner What are we comforted and encouraged about? We are to comfort one another about the fact that one day we will see our faithfully departed loved ones AND be with Jesus forever. There is nothing in 1 Thessalonians 4 that says we should be comforted by Jesus supposedly coming for his bride before the tribulation. It isn't in the text.
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 5 жыл бұрын
Brenda C So how does 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10 apply? Awake or asleep we are not appointed to wrath The blood is Sufficient If I look to myself to my works or righteousness then I am taking my eyes off the cross If Jesus said “it is finished” Which he did Then I come along & say “no it wasn’t, I must work and be in obedience to maintain salvation” I am calling God a liar 1 John ch 1 & 5 He said it’s finished so who am I to think I must perfect or maintain his finished work So no, I don’t believe the implications are to “those drinking & marrying” being wrapped up in the worldly and fleshly lusts is how the scriptures apply I believe it to speak to the actual events up until that time They were literally eating and drinking and marrying and giving unto marriage They were caught off guard and did not anticipate it to happen
@brendac4283
@brendac4283 5 жыл бұрын
Saved Sinner We won't be here for God's wrath as Paul clearly tells us so in 1 Thessalonians 5:9, "For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ." However the tribulation is not God's wrath. If that were so, not even the so-called "tribulation SAINTS" would be exposed to it. The believers who will be here during the tribulation also belong to God and are part of his ONE BODY....God did not appoint them to suffer wrath either. He would never put his own body through his own WRATH. Wrath comes after the tribulation and it starts with the 7 bowls which are clearly named as wrath (see Rev 15 & 16). Wrath is utter darkness and destruction...it's the Lord's vengeance on all the wicked and unbelieving; it is not for believers of any kind.
@brendac4283
@brendac4283 5 жыл бұрын
Saved Sinner Yes, I also agree that people will literally be eating, drinking, buying and selling, and marrying up until the day the Lord returns. This can and will happen during the tribulation.
@rogermetzger7335
@rogermetzger7335 3 жыл бұрын
Have you posted a short video (20 minutes or less) in which you explain what method(s) of interpretation you prefer and why and which principles of interpretation you apply to the study of Bible prophecies. If such a video is posted (or after one is posted), you can preface future videos with a request that your viewers first watch the one that explains HOW you interpret the prophecies, not merely your current understanding/interpretation of the prophecies. For example: I’m aware of four categories of methods of Bible interpretation: The historicist method (aka the continuist method) The preterist method The futurist method The metaphorical method Which of these methods do you use in your study of the Bible? If you prefer one method over another, how did you decide which one to use either primarily or exclusively? Some of the differences in Bible interpretation - especially with regard to Bible prophecies - can be traced to whether the “scholars” are using dictionary definitions for words in the Bible vs. letting the biblical text determine what definition to use. The above observation pertains to other aspects of definition of words (or/and phrases) but creates markedly different interpretations depending on how these words are defined or applied: Hebrew Israel Jew/Judah/Judea church Another difference in method(s) that affects the interpretation of prophecy is whether the scholar(s) are interpreting later special revelations (prophecies in the gospels and the apocalypse) by earlier special revelations (the Hebrew Bible) or vice versa. With regards to each of the following principles of interpretation, some scholars subscribe to and use the principle while others either oppose the use of the principle or say they agree with it but then utterly fail to apply the principle in their interpretation of scripture: Some prophecies are conditional - even if no condition is stated. Some promises/prophecies apply to the physical “seed of Abraham” while others apply to Jesus and those people who are “in him” - “And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.” - Galatians 3:29 Some promises/prophecies have already been fulfilled. Some prophecies may have dual application.
@ajja4038
@ajja4038 5 жыл бұрын
Hello i learned about you from KZbins Bible Flock he told us about you and to sub to you so glad i did💒
@lauramelisha508
@lauramelisha508 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. God bless bible flock
@Zattat005
@Zattat005 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy You need to see beyond your dislike of SDA to be able to see the truth come alive! Harden not your heart!
@richardhellesoe3251
@richardhellesoe3251 5 жыл бұрын
Wow robt clayton i can see you leading that mob coming to persecute me an my family for being sabbath keepers an none of us have 1% of the amount of hate you have for us, you need deep bible study with king james version only the closest you can possibly get to original bible text not your version iam praying for you clarity and conviction god bless
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy As always you are stretching the truth.
@Stefan-X24
@Stefan-X24 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy Yeah, maybe you should start reading the bible and stop believing your priest.
@Me-je2jv
@Me-je2jv 2 жыл бұрын
How to be a perfect christian?
@NellyKing-zp7oo
@NellyKing-zp7oo Жыл бұрын
love God with all your heart and love all other people as you love yourself. Meaning accept Jesus christ in your heart, keep the 10 commandments, be kind and merciful to all people.
@elijahtreman2434
@elijahtreman2434 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug for your videos. Started watching you in 2015 because my dad recommended you and your ministry has mean so much to my growth.
@pthomo2340
@pthomo2340 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy YOU NEED TO COME OFF this Forum as YOU CLEARLY NOT reading the WORD of GOD CORRECTLY, or even allowing the HOLY SPIRIT to give YOU CORRECT GUIDANCE and UNDERSTANDING of HIS WORD!!! I don't even know where to begin with POINTING OUT your ERRORS!!! BUT, I'll be PRAYING for YOU, that YOU HEAR GOD'S VOICE and take HEED BEFORE it's too LATE!!!
@isaiahjaimes5580
@isaiahjaimes5580 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy tell me why we are a cult so
@danielguzman1155
@danielguzman1155 5 жыл бұрын
For a clear understanding of the rapture watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIXLZqqkftCMetk
@aquaman199
@aquaman199 5 жыл бұрын
Your in a cult.your heading to hell
@elijahtreman2434
@elijahtreman2434 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy (with love and kindness) your in danger of the plagues described in Revelation because you add and twist the book of Revelation. May it not be too late for you.
@johnbrodeur3528
@johnbrodeur3528 2 жыл бұрын
Rev3:3 shows us that those who do watch WILL KNOW the HOUR.
@runningonfullnostanks4523
@runningonfullnostanks4523 3 жыл бұрын
yes, Old testament typology is key to understanding the NT scripture.
@chrismcintyre6331
@chrismcintyre6331 4 жыл бұрын
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of A'dam in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of A'dam coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a shofar, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. MATTITHYAHU (MATTHEW) 24:29-31 את CEPHER
@samuelakiri9242
@samuelakiri9242 2 жыл бұрын
THROUGH IT ALL,I SHALL TRUST IN GOD. Shalom.
@dashingstar8841
@dashingstar8841 5 жыл бұрын
People don't be confused . Jesus said that the last days will be as same of the days of Noah . Please think that God saved Noah and same thing will happen to us , we will be raptured before the tribulations
@Christina-xu1yd
@Christina-xu1yd 5 жыл бұрын
Amen. Heavenly Father be with us
@alonzo76ful
@alonzo76ful 5 жыл бұрын
happy sabbath Israel
@anthonywilliams2764
@anthonywilliams2764 5 жыл бұрын
So where does the harpozo come into it ?? There will be a snatching (taking away ) and it’s not the second coming , 2 things that are different are not the same , there WILL be a rapture at some point !
@daffydill5807
@daffydill5807 5 жыл бұрын
The day of the Lord is the day of the rapture. We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord. The multitude who came out of great tribulation is the rapture.
@nancyking2867
@nancyking2867 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Williams Isaiah 26:20-21 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: 'hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. KJV If you read verse 19 as well you will see that this is first resurrection, then Jesus hides us for a little moment until the wrath is overpast, so that He can punish the unrighteous for their sins. Then we return to earth with Jesus on white horses, Revelation 19:11-16 KJV
@smiiler1000
@smiiler1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@nancyking2867 Thank you for this post Nancy. I never knew about the scripture in Isaiah. It surely adds more credence to a Pre-Trib Rapture which I already firmly believed in.
@liat3593
@liat3593 4 жыл бұрын
@@smiiler1000 Re Isaiah 26:20-21, God's people will be protected here on earth during the "indignation", why do you believe they will be protected elsewhere? The resurrections are described in Revelation 20: the first resurrection is of all the righteous. The second is of all the unrighteous, 1000 years after the resurrection of the righteous.
@Aeterny
@Aeterny 4 жыл бұрын
And when the rapture doesn't happen, you and everyone else who believes in it will turn your back on God and His son Jesus Christ, when we are told to persevere to the end. God doesn't give us something that is more than we can handle, He's protected and helped us in many ways, you're hedging your bets on something that wasn't talked about until the 19th century and is clearly a device of Lucifer.
@cashed-out2192
@cashed-out2192 4 жыл бұрын
If you believe in an event, and doesn't know when or if it will happen, then, what is the point?
@PC-dy3lv
@PC-dy3lv 4 жыл бұрын
I’m ready for the rapture of the church
@Ak-ip8im
@Ak-ip8im 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@jamesstumpff7774
@jamesstumpff7774 2 жыл бұрын
Are you ready for the tribulation…the trials..the persecution….THAT ARE OUR IN CHRIST Jesus….Rev 1:9…real Christianity owns it
@PC-dy3lv
@PC-dy3lv 2 жыл бұрын
We the church will not go through the tribulation that’s after the rapture
@jamesstumpff7774
@jamesstumpff7774 2 жыл бұрын
@@PC-dy3lv you know what would be an awesome book for you…Fox’s Book of Martyrs….Pilgrims Progress…also might help
@PC-dy3lv
@PC-dy3lv 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesstumpff7774 the only book I need is the Bible
@jacquespieters7
@jacquespieters7 5 жыл бұрын
The rapture teaching is how I test a preacher. Not because I am judgemental, but because we must follow the facts and no false teaching. Mat 25 is also a good fact to use in this teaching. The 10 virgins with the lamps. This show 10 believers who never worshipped any other entity. The lamps and the oil is their faith. It is a time of darkness (tribulation) 5 loose their faith (oil runs out and the light die) 5 keep in faith. When the groom come the 5 who is prepared can enter
@gennymossiah7880
@gennymossiah7880 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath to you all!! From beautiful Belize Central America 😎😎always enjoy listing 2 your end time message.
@isaiahjaimes5580
@isaiahjaimes5580 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy Jesus himself kept the Sabbath day holy and since Jesus is our example we our selves should keep the Sabbath plus besides keeping sunday holy is no where to be found in the bible
@followthelamb144
@followthelamb144 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy Watch "Total Onslaught" by Walter Vieth KZbin it
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 5 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahjaimes5580 Jesus is also our substitute, not just our example. If you're trying to please God by keeping the Sabbath you are wrong and in error. If you are keeping the Sabbath as a delight to yourself as someone who is free in Christ to take a day of worship to him, then you're fine. P.S. It should surprise no one that a Jew living in Israel at 30 AD was keeping the Sabbath.
@grimslayerbrittain470
@grimslayerbrittain470 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSaavy your open ignorance is offensive.
@SummerofKittyLove
@SummerofKittyLove 4 жыл бұрын
There will be people who never experience death. Enoch and Elijah were taken up. I can’t put it past God that He can do as He pleases with this and maybe it has happened to other people not recorded
@aznation4592
@aznation4592 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for connecting the dots for me Amen Thank you Jesus
@SamSam-yz9xw
@SamSam-yz9xw 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Andy woods, he is also really good at explaining this.
@teamelectroteck
@teamelectroteck 3 жыл бұрын
In order to figure out when exactly the rapture will take place we have to study the verses about the rapture and we have to ask ourselves a series of questions. Question:When we will be changed? Bible answer: at the last trumpet 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. Question: When will the last trumpet sound? Bible answer: After the tribulation so it's the 7th trumpet Revelation 11:15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.” Question: Which verse speak about the rapture? Bible answer: 1 Theselonians 4:16-17 this is the only verse where the word rapture is mentioned. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Question: And what does the verse say when Jesus will come? Bible answer: The Lord will descend with the voice of an Archangel and with the sound of the trumpet of God Question: Than how can we have a trumpet sound if the tribulation did not start yet? Bible answer: The context of the question is false, the coming of the Lord is after the tribulation at the 7th trumpet. Question: The verse is saying that we who are alive who are left, what does that mean? Bible answer: In order for someone to be left alive something has to happen before and that is the tribulation. Question: Will there be any signs before the coming of Jesus? Bible answer: Yes and they all will appear after the tribulation. Matthew 24:29-31 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Question: Who is the bride of Christ? Bible answer: The bride of Christ is the new Jerusalem Revelation 21:9-10 9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. Question: Is the period of tribulation mentioned in the bible like 7 years of tribulation? Bible answer: The 7 years tribulation is not mentioned anywhere in the bible. Question: Why the coming of Jesus is acompanied always by the sound of trumpet and by the voice of the Archangels? Bible answer: Because the tribulation and the coming of Jesus is a part of the same event, so at the last trumpet the sings of Jesus will start to appear and the dead in Christ which died during the tribulation will be raised imperishable and the believers in Christ who are left alive after the tribulation will be changed and will be caught up to be forever with the Lord.
@megansmith4311
@megansmith4311 5 жыл бұрын
If you want a true teaching on the subject watch Robert breaker. He’s got the best sermons. And he uses King James Bible! I’m a pre trib believer all the way!
@Zattat005
@Zattat005 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Breaker has some very strange explanations on the bible.
@NoahNTG
@NoahNTG 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooo makes sense
@JonathanBrooksFL101
@JonathanBrooksFL101 5 жыл бұрын
Great Tribulation lasts 3.5 years (42 month, 1260 days, time(1yr) times(2yrs) and dividing of times(.5yr)
@Christian-Prepper
@Christian-Prepper 5 жыл бұрын
Many don't understand this.
@timorean320
@timorean320 4 жыл бұрын
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew Chaper 13. The "field" here directly relates to Matt 24:40 "2 in the field, 1 taken", I want to emphasize "the harvest is the END of the world." According to this, you dont want to be "taken"
@biblehistoryscience3530
@biblehistoryscience3530 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Orean, Matt 24:29-31 is about the ingathering of saints at the second coming, which corresponds to the parable of wheat and tares in Matt 13. But Matt 24:26-28, and 32 thru 25:13 is all about the Rapture, and you DO want to be taken.
@timorean320
@timorean320 4 жыл бұрын
@@biblehistoryscience3530 No. Matthew 13:38 "The field is the World" directly relates to Matthew 24:40 "2 in the field, 1 taken." In Matthew 13 it also states "the harvest is the END of the World." You use " meet in the clouds, and in the air" as "proof", but dont understand what it's really saying. In Hebrews 12:1 it says "we are encompassed by a cloud of witnesses" its talking about a multitude, (like a cloud of locust) not a nebulous cloud. So, you have that wrong. What it IS saying is "we will meet in a great multitude, in the breath of life" (the moment Christs feet touch the ground, and we change in that twinkling of an eye at the 7th Trump, which is the last 1, at the END) Acts 1:11 says Christ will return, in the same manner he left. He left from the Mount of Olives, on the ground, to the air. Nowhere does it say he stops, mid air, takes the "good", then comes back later. I will refer you to Ezekiel chapter 13, a warning against false teachers, and those who "hunt souls to make them fly." In Matthew 24, and 13, it says the Angel's do the gathering, not Christ. II Thessalonians "Let no man decieve you by any means, for that day shall not come until there is a falling away first, and the man of sin revealed, the son of perdition" You people are scriptural acrobats.
@biblehistoryscience3530
@biblehistoryscience3530 4 жыл бұрын
@@timorean320, the Greek word translated as “clouds” in 1 Thess 4:17 (νεφέλη G3507) means atmospheric clouds, and it’s sometimes used metaphorically to mean a cloud of sorrows. The root word for this, νέφος G3509, is used in Heb 12:1 and means a mass of clouds, and it’s sometimes used metaphorically to mean a cloud of witnesses or locusts. It’s a grievous sin to swap the word Paul used in 1 Thess 4:17 with the different word he used in Heb 12:1, but a preacher named Arnold Murray swapped these words in order to support his personal doctrine that Paul was describing an allegorical Rapture. And these weren’t the only words that Murray altered in order to promote his unique doctrine. He also swapped a word meaning “air, atmosphere” with a word meaning “breath, spirit". And Ezekiel 13:20 is about occult charms sold to Jews during the Babylonian exile, and God used a metaphor here of how hunters spook birds so they fly into their traps, but God was going to free the souls they hunted. So this has NOTHING to do with the Rapture. You would do well to drop Murray's blatantly false teaching and follow the actual word of God.
@timorean320
@timorean320 4 жыл бұрын
@@biblehistoryscience3530 I have a Strongs too, so no need to explain it. It's funny how 1 word can be used "metaphorically" when it fits your narrative, but not when it goes against it? Idioms, and vernacular are very much time, and region specific. If I said "we will paint the town red upon Christs return" a dictionary would not help you 2,000 years later, and a half a world away. They would think I'm painting a city. Ezekiel 13 very much relates to the Rapture. It's a false teaching by where you use "Charms" to decieve people into thinking they will magically "fly away". (Pretty quick google search for commentary on Ezekiel 13 meaning) Who is the Prince, and Lord of the Air? Where, and when did this teaching start? Morgan Edward's? John Darby, and Maggie McDonald in the 1830's? It's no different than the Book of Morman if you ask me. 3 people in the entire history of the Bible were ever "caught up" (Harpazo means to seize, or take by force, why on earth would you need to be taken by force? Its grievous to change meanings right?) yet, Millions think they will too? Ok.
@biblehistoryscience3530
@biblehistoryscience3530 4 жыл бұрын
@@timorean320 said “I have a Strongs too, so no need to explain it.” I used lexicons to show how Arnold Murray swapped words around to fit his doctrine. You said “It's funny how 1 word can be used "metaphorically" when it fits your narrative, but not when it goes against it?” I quoted from the lexicons about how these words were historically used to show how Murray swapped these things. You said “Idioms, and vernacular are very much time, and region specific.” Lexographers take all existing Greek texts into account, no matter when where they were written. Regarding the Darby conspiracy theories, hundreds of sources who lived centuries before Darby taught Dispensationalism and the Rapture, proving that he did not invent anything new, and MacDonald taught that the church went thru the great tribulation, so demons gave her post-trib doctrine. Also, the Mormons deny the Rapture, as do all the major cults and false religions.
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