So The funny thing is Pathfinder goes back to Hasbro pissing away talent via pink slips to WotC's Periodical department. Pazio wasn't the only RPG studio that was created via mandated layoffs during 3rd ed, Green Ronin And Kobold Press BOTH came from that as well. So yes Hasbro ineptitude of the 2000s kind of helped there.
@LowinBayrod Жыл бұрын
"ineptitude of the 2000s" you know that's a very good way to classify WotC history, we're currently dealing with the "ineptitude of the 20s". Eldrazi's winter was "ineptitude of the 10s" WotC.
@niccosalonga9009 Жыл бұрын
@@LowinBayrod So it's cyclical?
@a1pha_star Жыл бұрын
Paizo* 🤦♂️
@jemm113 Жыл бұрын
@@niccosalonga9009 it’s endemic, Wizards is just a shit company it seems lol
@niccosalonga9009 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Had high hopes for them when they started out. Sucks.
@pacer2310 Жыл бұрын
This isn't really related to WotC. Sometimes people forget that Upper Deck (makes sports cards) had a deal with Konami to distribute Yugioh cards in certain regions. Was a super easy, lucrative deal where all they had to do was repackage product and distribute. They got greedy and started having counterfeits printed in China to bundle up with old product as a "promotional card" to sell to distributors. Was from the top down because there were meeting where they were trying to replicate Konami's authentication foil, etc. Anyway, Konami caught wind and sued the ever living shit out of Upper Deck. Not the first time UD has gotten in trouble for being crooked, either.
@morenfin Жыл бұрын
My local shop owner told me the CEO was printing off the tiger scratch off cards that were 1000 dollars for the wow tcg and just selling those off. So they lost the wow license. There was a time when the only license Upper deck had was baseball. They stopped making Vs system because it wasn't enough profit. It was making a profit. Just not enough.
@ChristianIce Жыл бұрын
Wot$ based its fortune on a card game for kids which involves gambling and addiction. Let's start from this fact, wherever it leads.
@pacer2310 Жыл бұрын
@@ChristianIce Games in general came out of gambling. Turns out gachas are just a return to form rather than a deviation.
@ChristianIce Жыл бұрын
@@pacer2310 Jobs in general came out of slavery. Your point?
@krim7 Жыл бұрын
@@morenfin I loved both the WoW TCG and the Vs System. UDE can go to hell.
@StarPupil1 Жыл бұрын
Not so fun fact, a rich online experience was absolutely planned for DND 4E, and to my understanding it was basically done by the time 4e was set to launch, but they ran into the unfortunate circumstance of the head designer for that software murdering his wife and then killing himself. So they canceled it.
@Dyundu Жыл бұрын
@@hp5310 dude, uncool
@originofsin2605 Жыл бұрын
@@hp5310 don't worry I fucking chuckled at that soo kinda funny
@Dehalove Жыл бұрын
@@hp5310 lmfao
@ShenSage Жыл бұрын
@@hp5310 LMAO that's OD
@ChristianIce Жыл бұрын
@@hp5310 _flawless victory_
@uvarighalvarado8677 Жыл бұрын
wotc on the reserve list "we cannot change a over 20 year promise" also wotc "we are gonna change the over 20 year promise on not changing the OGL"
@jemm113 Жыл бұрын
God i just want them to take everything but the power 9 off that damn list already, it’s time! The power 9 can get special prints as tournament prizes so prospective magic players can see that by doing good in tournaments they can win one of the most sought-after cards. Make only one of each as a prize for worlds and you’re set! Everything else is expensive due to sheer stupidity and are only regularly used in casual formats where even the *competitive scene* will outright tell you to proxy *everything* because it’d be too expensive otherwise. CEDH has an active communtiy, legacy and vintage are hanging by a thread. (Well this would only help vintage after years of tournament black lotuses floating around but it’d be significant enough for it to work!) Plus then all the ante cards will be worth a lot more as the last of the truly unprintable magic cards (try not to look at invoke prejudice in the corner, but bring back all those other banned cards, wizards are just cowards!)
@louismaciver8262 Жыл бұрын
@@jemm113 this is a great idea, but there are no tournaments to print prizes for anymore T_T
@Singe0255 Жыл бұрын
As a judge for Pokemon throughout the entire WotC era (at all levels of play, including World's 2002), I can say that the DCI systems, registration, tournament reporting software, floor rules guidelines, and Judge/community support were massively instrumental in the Pokemon TCG success story. As soon as Nintendo took over, they wrecked the tournament scene with plans for scummy things like merging Gameboy and TCG events into hybrids, and not recognizing or compensating judges for their efforts. The mass exodus of tcg staffers switching to MtG to stay with a better supported brand and community was real. Wizards 100% built the pokemon tcg into the behemoth it would become.
@twilightwolf90 Жыл бұрын
And the crazy thing is that WotC looked at that and went, "damn, that's a good idea." and wrecked their tournament scene.
@joelmonteiro1419 Жыл бұрын
Were you a judge during their handling of Jyhad/Vampire the Eternal Struggle as well?
@mantislazuli Жыл бұрын
I absolutely hated when WotC removed the 15+ category, and lied about it being a demand from Japan (it wasn't, they got angry when they learned about it). And while WotC in the USA was a good distributor, WotC in Europe was total trash. In France they completely abandoned the game after our STS Qualifier in Paris in May 2001, we only got one decently-sized event with another STS Qualifier in Lyon in June 2002, which wasn't even organized by WotC France but by WotC UK. WotC France was not even aware of the Rocket-on modified format. So not everything was fine with WotC, especially in Europe (perhaps outside of BeNeLux and UK where everything was organized it seems).
@yusharider Жыл бұрын
Considering how Nintendo handles their competitive games now... I'm not surprised.
@thisispequod6620 Жыл бұрын
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@jhonea6535 Жыл бұрын
So it should probably be noted that a lot of the paizo writers (and legal team for that matter) WERE Wizards employees who helped draft the OGL, and a lot of 3.X material in general. They were never fully a separate entity, but writers helping to draft an agreement by which theu could continue to use theor own damn material. It's also noteworthy that the old d20 OGL sell was not just about "using D&D," but an open dice resolution system that could apply to a variety of games. WotC directly licensed to products from Star Wars to World of War craft, released their own generic "d20 Modern" game, etc. It was never about just D&D.
@KensanOni Жыл бұрын
There wasn’t a OGL for 4e. They instead had a game system license. It let you reference the core ruleros, but you couldn’t do anything with it, and the character creator wouldn’t let you import custom items. It was a disaster. People tried to work with it, but eventual gave up as unworkable. There is a huge reason why the OGL came back, because the GSL failed so badly, and they lost traction on the market. However, they are going to repeat the mistake again, and it’s interesting to see how it will shake out.
@sirlionheart4614 Жыл бұрын
WotC: we are stopping organized play LSS: we have robust organized play and we're passionate about it.
@Mercenary0712 Жыл бұрын
Time of Wizard is over, time of ORC is now
@auraaetherbladesigma6939 Жыл бұрын
Time for DAKA!!
@sukuruchan Жыл бұрын
@auraaetherbladesigma6939 Wrong Universe :D
@auraaetherbladesigma6939 Жыл бұрын
@@sukuruchan wrong there’s never a universe without DAKA!!!
@trunkage Жыл бұрын
@@sukuruchan heretic!
@Mercenary0712 Жыл бұрын
@@sukuruchan Not really, since Paizo just announced ORC (Open RPG Content Licence) to combat WotC's OGL 1.1
@brianlinden3042 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget how TSR basically bankrupted themselves by being too litigious. They didn't really CREATE their own competition as directly as 4e/the GSL created Pathfinder, but it's definitely notable that they put themselves in the position to be bought out by WotC in the first place (which, in turn, led to everything we're dealing with now) by being too eager to censor their competition.
@macbody Жыл бұрын
Important point here. Paizo was born out of the Hasbro buy-out of WoTC, many people became rich out of that. Anyway the CEO of Paizo was one of those. Not only that, but she and others involved with Paizo were instrumental in formulating and writing the OG OGL. Now the interesting thing is, that a lot of the old WoTC-people(with some exceptions ... here's looking at you Joel "Reserve-list, foil cards and rarity" Mick) were hardcore geeks. Peter Adkison made A LOT of money, however he actually took very good care of the employees. Many WoTC employees got paid when Hasbro bought them. Because Peter paid people in equity(in the early days mostly in equity). Also Peter bought TSR because he fucking loved D&D, and with time it could make money. But when Peter bought TSR it was in the shitter. That spirit of "hey! let's do cool shit!" was actually and famously important before the buy-out. And that spirit seems to be beaten out of Wizards. Peter Adkison still does cool shit, just because he can. He bought Gen-con and made another fortune out of that. Then he went to college and got a degree in film-making just because. Dr. Garfield designs games, and solves problems - because that is what he likes. They are not always good games. But Garfield is happy. Lisa Stevens and her WoTC-crew formed Paizo a company with values(they even encouraged their employees to unionize ... in America(!)). And Joel Mick(remember him?) he is one of the biggest wheelers and dealers in Reserve list cards(and early play-test cards), which he seems to be pretty happy doing.
@walter_gm Жыл бұрын
Loving it Vince! I want to add that Paizo was also producing adventures within D&D 3.X, and releasing them within the magazines (as well as standalone). Basically their unique setting and stories, their forgotten realms, with Rise of the Runelords being their version of Ravenloft or Tomb of Horrors. So when the 4E Pathfinder split happened, they had this existing world to dive into and explore, so their system really hit the ground running while 4E crashed and burned; they had a big coming out party at gencon and I think sold out of rulebooks the first day. It was big from day 1 basically. It was also the first time all us old timers cursed WOTC’s name for being so greedy. If only we’d known….
@ryanjones_rheios Жыл бұрын
Eh, I think the *first* time was probably the 3.0 => 3.5 transition being seen by probably half the community as a huge cash grab for, effectively, errata.
@walter_gm Жыл бұрын
@@ryanjones_rheios also truth. I was a faster adapter to 3.5 than some, mostly cause all your 3.0 books were still valid. So it was like, a $35 cash grab or whatever PHBs were back then.
@ryanjones_rheios Жыл бұрын
@@walter_gm I started with 3.5 *right* on the transition's heels, so I came in very confused for the same reasons you adopted it quickly, but looking back later it was maybe the first breadcrumb in the trail that lead to "maybe WoTC is sortof a leech of a company" if you went from "edition transition that should have been an errata cash grab" to "market glut release cycle w/ some relatively predatory decisions like classes in a miniatures book" to "video-game table-top edition change with offensive marketing and a new restrictive license" (now attempt 1 of 2).
@TheNotableNobody Жыл бұрын
The Pokemon situation is even worse than you think. Look up 'Scorched Earth'. WotC decided to have a hissy fit over losing Pokemon and intentionally flooded the market in an attempt to devalue the game once it returned to the Pokemon Company's control.
@auraaetherbladesigma6939 Жыл бұрын
Jesus that’s pathetic AF.
@marklehman5272 Жыл бұрын
Then why are cards from the transition Era the rarest? I've sold a few in my day and those e series cards go for silly numbers?
@HaxDotCombo Жыл бұрын
Media Factory was only a publisher for the Pokémon TCG, the gameplay was designed in-house at Creatures Inc by Shigesato Itoi (creator of Earthbound and world-class competitive Monopoly player, he was on the team because he was really into board games) and a bunch of other people in a room who knew how Magic worked to some degree.
@SteelfurSpeaks Жыл бұрын
Amusingly the death of MTG OP has had weird effects on the TCG competitive market overall, not all of it has been positive. Now flesh and blood is interesting because the game was set up with competitive in mind with big prizes and hoping for tough competition, so it could take these good MTG players and give them what they want, but other smaller games have had a weird situation where any tournament with a certain amount of return risks being spiked by MTG players with nothing to do. I've seen Metazoo, One Piece, Pokemon, and other smaller games all have tournaments taken down by people bringing that competitive magic experience to games that were previously shielded from it because MTG was the only game they wanted to play. Now if you make your prizes too good for a 'casual' tcg game, the MTG players might show up and steal your lunch.
@mzurran1003 Жыл бұрын
They are not "to big to fail" they are "to big not to fail". Big organizations have a hubris that reminds me of this exchange of words -Caliph- "young man, you have just come of age and have expectations of living forever... you think your command is absolute" "every monarch who attacked the Abbasid dynasty and Baghdad has met a sad doom... the foundation of this palace is extremely strong and will last until Doomsday." Hulagu Khan replied " I shall bring you down miserably into the jaws of a lion." The result of this was the sacking of Baghdad where an estimated 800,000-2,000,000 dead including the Caliph.
@sethchapman1425 Жыл бұрын
I wish the MTG community would be louder and join the RPG community. Hasbro and Wizards have highjack D&D, and their greed will not stop there.
@BingeThinker1814 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the MTG community are proxying more as a form of protest, for what that's worth
@sethchapman1425 Жыл бұрын
@@BingeThinker1814 it's something. It seems they are willing to still buy products. I have recently watched a video that opens this OGL as a bigger thing. And just feeling burnt out.
@sneezlebottom137 Жыл бұрын
I'd say WotC/Hasbro was clever (or just sane) enough to not dump a greedy change like the new OGL basically over night on their community when it came to MtG. It was gradual over two to three years. That's how you do it. Tiny step by tiny step. Customers are more willing to stick because with every small shitty decision they are still invested enough to say: "Well, okay I guess..." The backlash from the MtG community has therefore been slow and relatively small. Though I think we all can agree that it's growing especially after the disaster that was 30th. Like the comment before me said, proxies are becoming more and more acceptable and supported and you read more and more often that people who have been with WotC for a long long time have flat out stopped playing the game.
@ChristianIce Жыл бұрын
@@BingeThinker1814 It would be enough if *creators* would be on the same side. Sadly, they aren't. One day the cry about 30th anniversary, the day after they unpack the new release. They *ALL* do that, like it's an addiction or something.
@princesscrystal6410 Жыл бұрын
@@ChristianIce that’s cause we are, what matters about the tabletop rpg game isn’t the system but the stories, in card games it’s the opposite
@Michael-eq8th Жыл бұрын
Several years ago I found Vince’s channel and binged it all. I’m actually playing against him in one of his early brews. I fell away from mtg for a while and recently picked it back up. It’s nice to see how professional his production value has become and how well he’s done for himself. It also makes me nostalgic for his old style. It was sloppier, but so charming. I guess he’ll always be the mono red tron guy to me
@channelsofash Жыл бұрын
The makers of Flesh and Blood claim they developed their system because Magic the Gathering was trying to get away from in person gaming to push for digital play. Although a pleasant side effect of a new system was the makers of Flesh and Blood developed a system where you could actually do something on your turn instead of nothing because you didn't draw mana for several turns.
@donb7519 Жыл бұрын
so depressing fact they apparently had a team to make a 4e vtt but it fell apart due to the team lead having multiple family tragidies
@jdvred9210 Жыл бұрын
And what’s more, around 2002 or so, WotC tried changing the rules of the Pokemon TCG to be more like Magic, so that might’ve played a hand in Nintendo dropping them.
@academicace Жыл бұрын
So who is WotC's worst enemy: themselves or their customer base?
@auraaetherbladesigma6939 Жыл бұрын
Themselves, especially recently. That and Hasbro being greedy wankahs.
@dustinasche Жыл бұрын
If you ask them: their customers. If you ask their customers: themselves.
@vxicepickxv Жыл бұрын
The executive branch of Hasbro.
@JB-wc9cr Жыл бұрын
The open licence ‘deauthorizing’ has bigger ramifications… The internet code is built partly under an open licence. There are a lot of the building blocks and tools used in coding. If wizards and Hasbro get the ‘deauthorizing’ open licences could set precedent and it could be a huge deal in video games… but think about the code for all the physics engines and Linux
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 Жыл бұрын
Nintendo: i see no problem here
@MetallicMutalisk Жыл бұрын
Not only video games but the internet itself and basic infrastructure of pretty much anything, most softwares really. Goes much further than just videogames.
@itsallfunandgames723 Жыл бұрын
Which is why the specifically expert legal firm they'd hire to conduct any such lawsuits would tell them not to bother.
@lorekeeper685 Жыл бұрын
open code effects more than linus and suff ıt effect stuffs like military software and some code langugases such as phyton
@ab2aasd Жыл бұрын
Without watching the video, it *has* to be fumbling Pokémon and letting Paizo exist
@RaunienTheFirst Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear what a legal expert hadeto say about the new OGL retroactively superceding the old one, as the old one explicitly states that no, that can't happen.
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know about the Pokémon situation, but do remember the 3.5 to 4E debacle. My group jumped to PF after we finished our 3.5 game and never looked back. Well maybe to 3.5 stuff lol
@kylegonewild Жыл бұрын
As a consumer this is why I prefer publishers like Pinnacle Entertainment. They're constantly supportive of the community, cheaper to get ahold of official product, and aren't trying to push in on or push out other rule systems' spaces. They're also chill, having partnered with Pathfinder to do a rules translation to the Savage Worlds Core System for people who like all the original bits but don't like the classic D20 system.
@kasper1787 Жыл бұрын
I am loving what you are doing!. the Research and.. expose"
@krim7 Жыл бұрын
I still really like 4E. One of the best designed tactical RPGs in the world. If you like miniature wargaming or video games like Final Fantasy Tactics or Fire Emblem, 4E is for you. 👏 As unpopular as 4E was, it was still the best selling RPG for the majority of its life cycle. It really only tapered off once the 5E playtest got under way but that was more than enough room for Paizo to hop in and succeed with Pathfinder.
@tophatpeezy Жыл бұрын
3:39 shots fired 😂
@theDJOcho Жыл бұрын
That got me good
@hanng1242 Жыл бұрын
Nintendo might have settled the case as a matter of simple economics. If they couldn't get the case dismissed at the summary judgment stage, the rest of the litigation, including the discovery process, could be very expensive. Remember, this is a for-profit company - it isn't a matter of principle to them. If Nintendo calculated that it would cost more to go through litigation rather than just pay WotC off, they would settle without admitting liability just to not have to deal with it.
@fapplejax5486 Жыл бұрын
I wanna say the 4e wotc cancelling Dungeon and Dragon magazines was the catalyst for Pathfinder.
@CitanulsPumpkin Жыл бұрын
If I had a dollar for every time someone said "You should switch to Pathfinder" in the comments of a D&D video I'd have enough money to shortsell Hasbro stock, buy WotC, and fix/kill each of the corporate mandates that have tanked customer trust over the last year or so.
@fafdus Жыл бұрын
so i am playing a video game and the volume comes on and wakes everyone up while i am watching this video lol.
@gearsfan6669 Жыл бұрын
in the deep annals of history there are whispers of another, though it's physical form may shift between hosts they were another to fight against the Tainted forces of Wizards on both fronts. Legend of the Five Rings started as a card game, the first real big American made competitor to Magic (people theorize that's where WotC got the idea for the guilds of Ravnica because they saw such brand loyalty from the L5R community and the Clans within the setting and wanted to try to have the same, it kind of worked) and it's TTRPG did start as the core setting for the 3.5e book Oriental Adventures, sadly it's now owned my Fantasy Flight Games and they turned the card game into an LCG (Living Card Game) and made the TTRPG use proprietary dice (original system after the 3.5 book was exclusively d10s and was a roll and keep system, so your attack roll with a katana with the skill at 5 would be Roll 9d10 but only keep 5d10 (abbreviated as 9k5) to add for your check roll, it allows the players to tactically use failed rolls to keep cover without having to make a deception check since it did actually fail) Rokugan as a setting is basically take Greek mythology, make the names Japanese, split humans into 9 Clans and remove most other playable races (the only 3 non-humans that are playable that I can think of off the top of my head are Nezumi (Rat People), Ogres (in Japanese folk lore Ogres are generally calmer than Oni so it's possible) and Naga (snake people)) and then take European high fantasy concepts like magic and give it a Feudal Japanese twist
@because4337 Жыл бұрын
You are incorrect, Paizo did unseat WotC. Pathfinder 1e was absolutely outselling 4e dnd until 5e. PF was essentially dnd 3.75.
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
3.75 was so much fun too.
@jamesdurchenwald Жыл бұрын
Paizo seem to have a knack for snatching defeat at the jaws of victory... Marketing matters and that has never been their strong suit.
@because4337 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdurchenwald 1e was good for what it was, but not gonna lie, 2e was why I'm playing 5e right now.
@jamesdurchenwald Жыл бұрын
@@because4337 yup. We also decided that if we were going to move on from PF1, 5e would have been where we would go. We're still happily playing PF1.
@bobbymaycry9748 Жыл бұрын
Pokémon is the biggest media franchise on the planet revenue at $119 billion for those interested. Yes this makes it bigger than Hello Kitty, Star Wars and Mickey Mouse. The Pokémon Company however isn't technically Nintendo, not entirely anyway. It's a wishy washy partnership between Game Freak, Creatures and Nintendo. Nintendo manage distribution of Pokémon video games and has little if nothing to do with Pokémon in other areas outside video games.
@jakx2ob Жыл бұрын
Hello Kitty being part of that list is so much weirder.
@princesscrystal6410 Жыл бұрын
@@jakx2ob if a Japanese woman told you she never owned anything hello Kitty related, she’s lying or not Japanese, that’s how big it is at home
@bobbymaycry9748 Жыл бұрын
@@jakx2ob You think that's weird, Hello Kitty has a cross-over series with Gundam.
@AnHourOfWolves Жыл бұрын
I mean, if there isn't a patent on the D&D rules - the rules can't be copyrighted - then who cares what Wizards says, right? Anyone can create anything that will be compatible with the D&D rules system without OGL, right? Apparently one can create a game or supplement ussing D&D rules and even put a logo on there saying "Compatible with Dungeons & Dragons" without needing the OGL at all. So really, the OGL was a way for Wizards to MAINTAIN control, and so getting rid of it actually helps people!
@danielkubicek1323 Жыл бұрын
A wizard makes a mistake and creates something it cannot control... twice. Yeah, that checks out.
@wouteroorthuis801 Жыл бұрын
Not really "creating" a competitor, but having worked in a LGS for 20 years, every time Magic screws things up with bad sets, bad standard, or otherwise, Games Workshop has a huge boom. Magic and Warhammer were always about 60% of our sales, but which was 20, and which had 40 would switch based mostly on how bad Wizards was doing.
@RafitoOoO Жыл бұрын
Garfield also design the card game for Vampire the Masquerade which is basically commander decades before commander got big.
@ty_sylicus Жыл бұрын
"Outside of foiling." BURN!
@sophieforster3900 Жыл бұрын
Day 1 of asking pleasantkenobi to pronounce paizo correctly
@ttrgr Жыл бұрын
bet
@pytawidmo Жыл бұрын
Not as bad as Games Workshop vs Blizzard with Warcraft.
@mikecantwell77 Жыл бұрын
Just on the Paizo thing (minor point, pronounced Pie Zho), the team were made up key WotC employees, D&D creators, and think Paizo's Lisa Stevens was even a WotC founder. What Hasbro did when it bought over WotC was sack a load of staff but essentially brought them back in as external contractors. Bit like fire and re-hire but worse. In Paizo's case, Hasbro didn't want anything to do with the magazine business but things like Dungeon magazine were still useful so that was kept on, essentially, but "contracted out" to Paizo... who were basically the WotC staff that had just been doing that job as WotC employees. That was shit, but workable, under the OGL but when 4th ed dropped and moved away from the OGL, it meant Paizo couldn't carry on making their magazine for D&D, which they needed to exist. Pathfinder was created to plug that hole and, could be wrong, but during the 4th ed era think it outsold D&D. Former WotC person, now Paizo owner, Lisa Stevens, does a chat about this sort of history at Paizocon. Put a link to one of these because it is kind of interesting because it does cover the birth of MtG as well as hand in buying out TSR, why TSR failed (producing too much product... current WotC take note!) and the journey over to Paizo. knowdirectionpodcast.com/podcasts/PC2019-010-AuntieLisaStoryHour.mp3
@ClubbingSealCub Жыл бұрын
I'm still mad about netrunner
@jonstapleton2340 Жыл бұрын
me too man.
@sanderhartlage Жыл бұрын
The Netrunner wound will never heal.
@theDJOcho Жыл бұрын
That foiling zoom tho
@nicks4802 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is this video just a tad quiet?? Got my volume all the way up…. And it definitely doesn’t sound like it. Or maybe i could just be a few slices short of a pizza pie 😂
@jonsumner5899 Жыл бұрын
Well I'm surprised you didn't use the fact as an epilogue that it wouldn't surprise me if project Black flag ends up dethroning wizards of the Coast since this new game is supposed to be compatible with all of cobalt process past books hints that means it's supposed to be compatible with both 5th edition and Pathfinder I don't know how but that's what it would mean and a system that can be compatible with 5th edition and the 5th edition pretty much digging themselves in a hole that likely means that they have a very good start to take wizards mantle
@Meck33 Жыл бұрын
4:25 Italian kenobi
@AufziehMeister1 Жыл бұрын
man nickels went to dollars, inflation really do be hittin
@ashtongaskill3980 Жыл бұрын
Cries in Android: Netrunner
@shardfire4469 Жыл бұрын
Widdle biddle of an oopsie whoopsie there. Yeah, you are correct and 100% on point in this.
@sirlionheart4614 Жыл бұрын
Pie-zo ✅️ Pay-zo ❌️
@ScottAtkins49 Жыл бұрын
I figured it was going to be Pathfinder and FaB. 50%, that's a fail!
@artistpoet5253 Жыл бұрын
I really don't know who's at the true top of Hasbro/WotC but this group seriously never learned that history repeats itself and 'what goes around comes around'. I loved 4th edition. I like the cross over of the D&D Quest games, the miniatures battle game and the core 4th Edition rule set. 5e is way too super hero for me. There's no risk. Everything hinges on some edgey back story and tables feel like a group therapy session. The characters are about as mortal as your toons in Destiny 2. It's boring. No wonder the 3rd party creator market exploded.
@itsallfunandgames723 Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder once took D&D's spot at the top of the market. It looks like they will do so again.
@jakx2ob Жыл бұрын
But wouldn't the OGL deauth changes break pathfinder?
@underdog105 Жыл бұрын
@@jakx2ob Paizo has broken away from the OGL and is willing to fight that fact in court. It also wouldn't be the first time Paizo has kicked WotC's ass in court.
@waylayin6159 Жыл бұрын
Your mourh movements remind of wallace from wallace and grommit. Its fascinating to see.
@PleasantKenobi Жыл бұрын
Shit, my secret identity is up.
@EnerKaizer Жыл бұрын
Actually kinda expect now a video of you about how WotC actively sabotaged the first attempt of bringing MTG's sister-game "Duel Masters" to the west. And when I wrote sabotaged, I actually mean it. WotC hoped to get the Yu-Gi-Oh generation hooked first with DM, and then cancel it so they'd jump ship to MTG, which, obviously, didn't happen. And then there were blunders like what happened to the German Nationals champion, who got promised to get flown to the US to compete at the US Duel Masters Nationals - Only to get greated by confused people at the tournament side who had no clue what he was talking about.
@tragicthegarnering3619 Жыл бұрын
I was also thinking of the fab thing.
@adams8407 Жыл бұрын
Wizards of the Coasts does want more money, they want all the money.
@tcsmagicbox Жыл бұрын
1. Pathfinder, 2. Flesh and Blood
@malakimphoros2164 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Duel Masters had ded. Sadge.
@sandwichboy1268 Жыл бұрын
WotC's biggest rival is nerd's willingness to bent over and take it
@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын
The Dungeons and Dragons trademark owned by Hasbro/WOTC is ripe for busting. Hasbro/WOTC owns certain copyrights for their published material. But it’s important to understand that the phrase “Dungeons and Dragons” is a Trademark, not protected by copyrights. The time is right to break the trademark. The phrase has become generic to the general public for Fantasy Role Playing Game. It’s only pedantic geeks that insist it is not. Now is the time for the geeks to reverse course and refer to any RPG as Dungeons and Dragons. Another important aspect of trademark law is that one’s trademarks must be vigorously defended against all violators. Imagine if one thousand of us threw together a set of rules and published it using Dungeons and Dragons in the title. Heck, I bet we could get ten thousand new games on kickstarter alone. The only requirements are 1) The rules and game description do not directly copy any WOTC material, 2) It uses the term “dungeons and dragons” interchangeably with RPG. For example: Lite Dungeons and Dragons, description This dungeons and dragons game system is the simplest to use whether you are new to dungeons and dragons or an experienced dungeons-and-dragons-er. Although it’s a much simpler dungeons and dragons compared to other non-WOTC dungeons and dragons games like Paizo’s famous dungeons and dragons system, “Pathfinder”, it is a much more flexible dungeons and dragons, requiring only one six sided die for all rolls. Lite Dungeons and Dragons is designed for a fantasy dungeons and dragons setting, but it could easily be adapted for any other type of dungeons and dragons: horror, cyberpunk, space exploration, historical, mystery, superhero, whatever. It’s an ideal system for experimenting with entirely new genres of dungeons and dragons because of its simplicity: rolling a single d6 to resolve any questions. You can forget about memorizing cumbersome dungeons and dragons rules and focus on the dungeoning and the dragoning. /end description It’s that simple, my fellow geeks. Just substitute “dungeons and dragons” any time you would use “RPG”. We bemoan the ignorance of the public when they refer to all RPG games as dungeons and dragons, but now it’s time to embrace it for the greater good. The precedent of dungeons and dragons being a generic term is already mostly established. We can put the final nail in the coffin.
@ratbou Жыл бұрын
Paizo is pronounced like pie, Not pay. Pretty sure of that because of roll for combat.
@jamesdurchenwald Жыл бұрын
Paizo's FAQ actually says exactly this Q: How do you pronounce "Paizo"? P: We pronounce it to rhyme with "pie dough."
@izaiahsundquist6877 Жыл бұрын
Force of Will TCG?
@CrazedHamster99 Жыл бұрын
Paizo (pie-zo) is literally the the gandalf the white to WOTCs Saruman. WOTC has no love for their game, their only desire is to milk money from their fans. They coast of brand recognition and critical role alone as the rules and world are problematic. Look to Paizo. Who gives you their rules free of charge. That supports a diverse staff of unionized writers and artists. Who's world is beautiful and diverse where you can have the primary pantheon be a lesbian polygamous trifecta. Where the adventures are deep rich stories with characters and cities that have pages of backstory. Did i mention that they give all the rules for free? Not beginner rules, no srd, not greymarket. Free.
@Yentz4 Жыл бұрын
I think this is interesting how this has kinda spilled into the video game realm as well. People who grew up with classic CRPG's like Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, etc were playing DnD. The games all used older DnD rules as well as set in the main world setting of DnD. Characters like Minsc and Boo would *never* have been such popular characters without them. Fast forward a couple decades and the newer CRPG's that harken back to games like Baldur's Gate are using..... Pathfinder.
@IAmebAdger Жыл бұрын
Two audio things to note in this video: 1. Nice music 2. Blocked nose
@PleasantKenobi Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and OK?
@darthsnarf Жыл бұрын
"American Peninsula" WAT
@TheodoroDML Жыл бұрын
editing on this video popped =D
@jamesdurchenwald Жыл бұрын
Very minor point. Paizo pronounced like "pie dough" (As stated in their FAQ)
@ChristianIce Жыл бұрын
Too bad, they took the wrong letter to get to the desired result :D
@utkphilobio Жыл бұрын
Europe's the peninsula.
@RisottoNero-z1w Жыл бұрын
2:42 basically white
@jimmysmith2249 Жыл бұрын
No, wotc is not "too big to fail". Remember that d&d was owned by tsr (who did a LOT of bad shit near the end), and then tsr died and wotc bought d&d. Mtg and d&d will survive wotc, or they won't.
@fafdus Жыл бұрын
Pokémon cards value makes me think of the perfect psa 10. then MTG makes me think of the game itself actually playing games. Just think about the gba Pokémon games they are worth money and the big one people buy them. Mario games are generally worth money too lol. but then we have this thing called the black lotus lol. the ultimate speed freak card
@maximusofgalihand Жыл бұрын
Outside of foiling xD *dead*
@SockisS Жыл бұрын
4th edition is a tabletop boardgame, not a tabletop rpg. It's an ok boardgame but lackluster as an rpg.
@Cosper79 Жыл бұрын
turn ya sound up on your videos bro.
@johnharrison2086 Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder is better than 4e and Pathfinder 2e is better than 5e
@patrickdavid870 Жыл бұрын
yag
@thumbwrestler12 Жыл бұрын
Great new coverage sucks wotc does so much damage
@DarkstarAshura Жыл бұрын
*cringe* Pay-Zo... it's pronounced Pie-Zoh.
@dj66800 Жыл бұрын
So the title is a lie. You talked about pokemon and then admit you literally were just lying. Come the hell on mate you're better than that, this is plain insulting.
@Pioootr Жыл бұрын
The way you pronounce Paizo is infuriating
@TheJohnnyNormal Жыл бұрын
"Get fucked Wizards", that is the response all MTG and D&D hobbyists should be yelling from the mountain tops.
@deadriccow Жыл бұрын
2:07 Bruh haven’t even played that game in forever and barely started back ups at weekend, and I contributed $10 to that $2mil yesterday 🥲