When You're a Creep | Jordan Peterson

[@patp3800]

This has happened to an entire society

[@nel7105]

This ^^^

[@ClevrYogi]

Rome and American North

[@dylanm691]

thats so sigma based

[@tahmeedmazumder6877]

​@444Dragoncheese whole of America bruh

[@timeno1763]

By 'progressive*' design. *Actually entropic. The label 'progressive' is intentionally deceptive.

[@Very_Silly_Individual]

You may think, "what the hell am i doing here" and you might think "i dont belong here"

[@lorrainerees4793]

or like, I'm a weirdo.

[@ogrejr5579]

this is not my beautiful frat house! this is not my beautiful sorority sister!

[@_.Dylan._]

And you may ask yourself “how did I get here”

[@AdamWEST-yu2os]

So Thom was talking about 50 year old Marxist professors who are really into Herbert Marcuse?

[@brajoneaston3027]

Radiohead

[@pteeradukteel]

I used to be a creep and then I just started sincerely listening to people and my life has changed

[@NA-xq4fn]

we all make mistakes and are here to improve ourselves to be happy. good luck :)

[@TobiasFelis]

Like how. Do you feel more productive or energetic? How were you a degenerate and how was this advice changed your life?

[@LostNFound432]

What made you a creep? Not listening to people? I'm genuinely confused.

[@xavyerwav]

@@LostNFound432 its the selfishness. you care so much about your own self that you never really get to 'connect' with others, which makes you estranged - like the 50 year old hedonist degenerate.

[@sheliaaustin2800]

Glad you realized and self improved. Kudos to you

[@johnz8843]

The classic argument from Plato on down. You'll personally pay a price for selfishness and other immoral behavior.

[@humptydumpty-m8u]

So up?

[@humptydumpty-m8u]

right?

[@humptydumpty-m8u]

so down again

[@MichaelConroy-o4s]

Ask any woman who’s had an abortion.I know,I know..🥶..but it’s true.They all say the same thing (in private,if they know you well and trust you).It wasn’t worth it.I wish I had a do-over.🤷‍♂️❤️💐

[@Itsgone99]

​@@MichaelConroy-o4shuh, my mom regrets having me. Grass is always greener on the other side...

[@mcw-lg2dm]

I swear jordan is the most misunderstood person out there, he speaks the most obvious simple truths you could imagine. People hate harsh truths.

[@work-pg8jx]

i wish they were this obvious to everyone

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

That’s definitely true. Everything he says is very basic, fundamental, but he explains it in a philosophical, sophisticated way that shows he’s put a LOT of thought into those subjects, but since a lot of people hate not being able to do whatever they want and hurt other people, they don’t like what he’s saying and slander him.

[@ari3lz3pp]

That's partly why I don't think he would have friends if he didn't have influence. Most of us that are not famous, that are struggling to make ends meet barely have time to mingle and meet new friends. And most people don't like honesty and people whom are more serious, more dedicated to certain aspects of life. Be it psychology, parenting, religion....so they will use you and then stay away. That's been the experience of many today. Sadly I know more of the kind he speaks of that have more "friends" though I wouldn't change places with them ....they are stuck for sure. They don't have families. They don't have faith. They are into the same things they were decades ago. My family, my faith, my intellectual interests trying to grow and learn...is pretty much all I have but that's a lot to me. ❤

[@ari3lz3pp]

​@@henrikaugustsson4041True. But the only thing I have wrong with what he's saying is in certain circumstances it's the opposite for friendships....the people he's describing I do think feel alone even when surrounded....but they tend to be in groups or even pairings of BFFs....my husband and I know friends that started to conglomerate as they grew older, turning away from people like us (kids and busier lives), even if we made time for them it wasn't good enough... because they feel they should be the priority all the time. Sadly it's so prevalent now that there's a division between the forever friends that are attached at the hip but stuck acting like teenagers, then there are the married couples that have very very little social lives but fulfillment in what they have.... It just does suck to think of if my husband was lost to me or vice versa and to be then alone... All of our friends that stuck by us (figuratively speaking) moved because our blue state sucks. Maybe that's why we don't have more friends...but from what we hear from all of them is they also don't have many friends....too busy making ends meet.

[@nancysarpi9916]

Yes

[@JesusSaves1987]

He is absolutely correct.

[@Garrus1995]

I’m reminded of that movie “The World’s End” wherein Simon Pegg’s character is a man well into his 40s who never really grew up because he kept trying to relive the glory days of his youth even at the expense of his own emotional wellbeing.

[@All4Randomness1]

And at the end, his immaturity literally destroys the world. A world run by neoliberal aliens, sure, but at least it had plumbing. But in the very last scene we see that his plan worked - he is able to travel the wastes with his gang from back in the day probably until the day he dies. The film is a fantasy about what happens when your refusal to grow up clashes with the world…but this time, your refusal to grow up WINS. Was it worth it? And, furthermore, was he right - are human beings really so fundamentally backwards and recalcitrant that they would rather live in shit than join the galaxy? After all, the film resonated with many different types of people among those who watched it. It’s honestly a rather unflinching portrayal of that theme, and one of the furthest-reaching explorations of it.

[@Afurthyclays]

Sounds like uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite. 🤣

[@JayS.-mm3qr]

Jordan is really giving the finger to a lot of people who never had glory days. People grew up unloved and are trying to feel like they were ever worth a damn at all. And Jordan is like, "you're 40, so you're extremely creepy." Like, dude... people are just people. He seems to presume hostility on people who are 40, if they didn't live his lifestyle.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@JayS.-mm3qrthats but really true. Plus if there’s nothing to relive then there’s nothing to relive, so it’s just more cringe at that point. We all deserve love and happiness and we should find appropriate ways of achieving that

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@JayS.-mm3qrplus if you getting drunk with strangers at a frat house are glory days then your days weren’t so glorious

[@littlepony8571]

Unfortunately these types all hang with eachother to alleviate their guilt with false confidences, propping one another up. The Jerk Club. So well put.

[@bradfaulkner9597]

I used to be a creep but then I cleaned my room.

[@Mereologist]

Also stood up straight with your shoulders back.

[@leonabarkell1809]

Congratulations!

[@ThatArbiter]

Goated

[@wixardstudios1374]

and then fought a dragon

[@mangeload]

Top lobster 🦞

[@8Mev]

Aging, reinforced laziness, shame and self loathing, addiction, law of diminishing returns... There is plenty to painfully remind you it was never to become a lifestyle

[@FriendofDorothy]

everyone is "aging".... every day, every month... why is that included in your list?

[@florenciarominav]

​@@FriendofDorothy You'll age if and only if you survive all the other factors. People age according to their lifestyle.

[@ZephyrinSkies]

​@@FriendofDorothyAging, when you start to reach a certain point, is when reality sets in that your time is finite and precious, which hurts if you're wasting it.

[@Widdly_Wah]

​@FriendofDorothy Because if you're well into your late 30s through your 50s and you're still trapped in addiction the more self loathing is there and less hope you have of ever cleaning your life up. Aging definitely plays a major roll in all that

[@cooliobroski3008]

You won't age bad if your diet is on par. Eat raw honey daily..raw milk, raw butter, bacon/pork uncured bacon though...not the regular store bought bacon with a bunch of sodium and all the chemicals they put in it when they cure it.... uncured bacon....All meat has to be grass fed and antibiotic free

[@GoodShepheardGames]

This applies to everyone but most aren't going to listen, we live in a world where people would rather benefit off of you rather than with you

[@dominostimes2119]

This comment should be on top of list period

[@marymastandrea2640]

Narcissists

[@dominostimes2119]

@@marymastandrea2640 plus sociopaths and psychopaths

[@bobbyjohnson5637]

I think most people are becoming increasingly isolated as they age and the system encourages it.

[@BrianSmith-vl7xu]

And you may ask yourself.. "how did I get here?"

[@CasLee]

this is not my beautiful house

[@BrianSmith-vl7xu]

@@CasLee this is not my beautiful wife!

[@rustysurgener7942]

my God what have I done?

[@DJBrianOBrien]

Same as it ever was...

[@MrMcbride8]

ONCE IN A LIFETIME

[@Mereologist]

Plato's 'Republic' in a few seconds, lol. The tyrant is not the happiest of all people in spite of his power and wealth because only other tyrants waiting to put a knife in his back are around him. He knows he lives in a house of cards which can collapse at any second and which people are actively working to collapse.

[@JBGARINGAN]

The sword of Damocles says this too! When the lowly servant asked the king why he was always so stressed when surely he must be the most secure with all his power. Why does the king act so selfishly taxing the people and waging war instead of building for the public good and making peace. The king laughed and gladly switched positions with the servant for a day. The servant came to find that instead of having unlimited freedom to do anything as king he was reduced to few options in every decision always wary of those who lurk in shadows and whom he may offend by making the wrong choice. CGP Grey made an excellent video about rules for rulers and why they act so tyrannically. It is very cynical but deep down true. From a lowly perspective we are literally the servant and so interpret much of dictators' actions as unnecessarily brutal, but in their shoes if they show any weakness or fail to maintain power by putting money are resources to good means they will be removed by those who are willing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qITXfWqknrdqndU

[@johnz8843]

The organization of the tyrant's soul is disordered in the first place, leading him to want power and wealth as the means to happiness rather than the only means to happiness, according to Plato, virtue. And consequently, the result for the tyrant is as you describe. For Putin, too? According to Plato, yes...

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@johnz8843basically any politician

[@AyKrax]

pretty much a villian has the most self-awareness. "I'm a dick only a matter of time before some other dick comes and takes me out and then him out and so and so forth. Imma go enjoy my power for now🤷‍♂️"

[@DensonFletch]

This is where heavy is the head of the man that wears the crown came from, most couldn't handle especially without self imploding unless youre psycho or sociopath

[@samblackwell8308]

“All about you in the moment” - well said, Dr.

[@360decrees2]

Exhibit A: Hugh Hefner.

[@kentuckyfriedegg3409]

How so?? Not disagreeing or agreeing just wondering

[@dakoderii4221]

He was a CIA operator to help normalize degeneracy by making it seem dignified. The operations continued and expanded since then. The science of the damage done was known in the 50's. They weaponized it rather than using that knowledge for good. They created of bunch of weak narcissists to destabilize society. Then they can come in with the "solutions". We are the frog in the boiling pot. It's almost boiling now.

[@retromom5421]

💯 The epitome of a dirty old man.

[@VairocanaPLS_1111]

Those girls HATED HIM 😂

[@AlbertBalbastreMorte]

​@@VairocanaPLS_1111did they?

[@SallyIronic]

The movie "Dorian Grey" perfectly depicts this.

[@HankTheTank23]

You should read the book as well.

[@SallyIronic]

@@HankTheTank23 Good idea. Thanks.

[@HankTheTank23]

@@SallyIronic No problem, thank you!

[@dollarsmum3453]

The novel is even better--so ingenious, Oscar Wilde!

[@RogerWilcoWTF]

Then maybe read his 'Ballad of Reading Goal' which he wrote after a sentence of two years hard labour being convicted of gross indecency ...

[@tautvydukass]

There is no way you can escape judgement.

[@LoveLauwsPawuwls]

I know JP says that their clients never get away with anything they do, but I’m rather skeptical of this. If you become destructed and don’t have some conscious to feel guilt about it, how is that karmic?

[@tautvydukass]

@@LoveLauwsPawuwls judgement is a “tool” depends how you use it…

[@benclark3457]

@@tautvydukass you sound the kind of creep who still goes to frat parties at 40 and makes up their own reality to justify evil

[@eibura5978]

​@justinweaver375 they don't get away with it because they still degenerate, or you carry the weight of what they've done in secret. Whether they feel guilty about it or not.

[@MichaelConroy-o4s]

I think I actually lost my conscience,but then it came back.And I’m still trying to figure out what the hell happened.Am I the only one who has experienced this?🤔🤷‍♂️

[@Ash_Aszhari]

I hear what you're saying, but I'm willing to bet that there's more narcissistic men and women with partners whose lives they make hell. And there's just as many married creeps and REAL creeps, hanging out at gatherings of all kinds, including kids parties. It's very judgemental to just single out 'the old guy at the frat party'. Similar to pointing out 'the unwed childless old gal'. So many people due to unfortunate circumstances or just battling with terrible childhood conditioning, end up progressing through their lives at a slower rate than the majority.

[@pelqel9893]

Thank you for articulating some of my own, nuanced thoughts in reaction to this. Sometimes, Jordan can be too rigid in his thinking... as if he's constructed two templates against which he compares the lifelines of all men and women. Things aren't so simple...

[@FriendofDorothy]

singling out the older guys is also ageist as F. You will ALL get there faster than you think

[@L.Fontein7]

​@@FriendofDorothyJordan IS there - he's no spring chicken...er...rooster.

[@costadev8970]

I was thinking the same. For a few years I liked watching his lectures on the Bible and psychology, it was very interesting. And when he talked about the progressive left too, because I identified with his anti-woke position. He seemed to be one of the few sensible and intelligent people in this madness that is political discussions on the internet. But then he become possessed by this conservative/reactionary ideology thing, in a war against these "degenerate leftists". The problem is not being a conservative. Although I don't consider myself a conservative, I see reasonable reasons for being one. The point is that he has taken on this very judgmental attitude towards people who don't seem to fit in. He seems to value appearances, social conventions and conformity to the herd more than what goes on inside people's heads and hearts, and their stories. This is the kind of attitude you expect from a random person on the street, not from a sensible and intelligent psychologist. This is the power of ideology.

[@mewe1023]

​@@costadev8970 Stop acting like you were never a judgemental person. Humans always judge.

[@Greater2442]

Thanks great teacher ❤

[@nicolabrittain3101]

first thing hes said that i agree with - exploiting other people leads to degeneracy

[@amelialee2142]

Listen to him more- there’s probably way more that you’d agree with

[@HandsOfShadow]

You probably only listened to his political views but not his psychological works

[@SomethingCoool8O]

Shhh

[@corysmith3447]

consensual causal sex (not one night stands) is not degenerate its healthy hes proijecting aand he gets called creeep all the time lol

[@Boarquake]

Yeah he believes in the boss exploiting the worker is good but whatever bullshit Canuck thought he's having here doesn't round a bell in his hypocrite mind.

[@360decrees2]

Even a partier like Lord Byron said, when he reached his thirties, that he was in his 'yellow-leaf days.'

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Well back in those days, if he had not led a hedonistic life, he would still be lucky to make it to 70. So considering his lifestyle he was just being realistic.

[@MaitLember]

@@Rugmunchersauce3 Why? He died because of a fewer.

[@nathandurant2825]

​@@MaitLemberyellow ?

[@chrisquiett1776]

He just calls it out so fairly. When I was 19 I was hanging out at a party and there was a 32 year old at the party and I thought he was really cool. But the older I got I just felt sorry for him... like why don't you have kids or a career? Where is your wife? You're clearly lonely.

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

He loves his voice and is a smug prick. He is very tall for his generation, has very high IQ, a healthy upbringing and a handsome face. He still has his hair despite his age. I just privileges that a lot of guys, indeed most guys don't have. It's easy to look down on more disadvantaged people. But it does not help them.

[@brucesmith8285]

Your very nieve if you ask that. Wait till the divorce comes or when you go without punannie for weeks.

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

@@brucesmith8285 i haven't had 'punannie' for 15 years now and I'm fine. you're a creep.

[@sissh5761]

@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 look into his history. he was not privileged. and almost ruined his life.

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

@@sissh5761 Let's start with one privilege at a time. Was he tall or not?

[@nirhalef2853]

I would throw a frat party JUST for Jordan Peterson.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

He'd be a buzzkill.

[@AnnaLynne3]

You're that kind of person nobody wants to hang out with

[@lukaspkhakadze3021]

Gay

[@FredLenz1]

He would not only decline, but would do it in a way that would make you feel totally ashamed of yourself!

[@planes3333]

Man I can feel those words penetrate my heart

[@femboyscotty23]

That suit is f*cking awesome 😂

[@kevinscott59]

I thought Frat parties were Creep parties by any other word. The 40-year-old is simply the oldest creep there.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

When someone is a balding 40-year-old fratboy they call him a "creep", and when someone is a steroid-infused 22-year old fratboy they call him a "bro." Same shit, different flavor. The difference between a "Dude/Bro" and a "creep" is nothing more than physical appearance. It tends to deteriorate with age. But it doesn't inherently mean anything.

[@ginnar8702]

Nah got to do with people going through a certain phase during college where they explore, party and mess up. People that get stuck in that phase tend to be the creepy types.

[@Arguments_only]

@@devilsoffspring5519 "creep" is just weaponized language used to push your own ideas and self interest. JP is pontificating self aggrandizing oaf. Its unbelievable how popular he is despite his lack of insight and spinelessness. He kowtows at the expense of his integrity to american right wing so fervently. I would say that "Creep" (weaponized language) is someone who associates for money and prestige with a man who furiously supports genocide and maiming of children (Ben Shapiro)

[@dxdxdxdxdxd7125]

@@devilsoffspring5519 its 22 y.o. - piss and beer in the head instead of a brain

[@johncollins211]

If the women weren't happy to come the frat wouldn't throw parties. Whos creepier the men or the women showing up to meet them?

[@vincentlauria7857]

Tell that to Leonardo Di Caprio! 😂

[@annaleigh3123]

True, but when you’re that famous, your age doesn’t matter because people will still want you around at any party and not label you a creep. Im not very old yet, and I would love to go to a Party and find Leo there. That man is gorgeous. Lol However, anyone not extremely famous at Leo’s age would be instantly creepy, no matter how good looking they are. Weird, but true.

[@brucewayne7252]

​@@annaleigh3123 all agreed! One thing though....That Man WAS gorgeous in his teens and 20s....he is a Pumpkin head these days.

[@jackslepowron5905]

​@@annaleigh3123 nah still weird

[@karinaw977]

Yeah don’t worry, women are now calling him a creep.

[@Jdabomb93]

Unfair. That It’s mostly based on physical attraction. (With the irony being a genuinely evil psycho rapist male could be incredibly attractive too. We need to do better as a society. Have more discernment and better judgment here. Not everyone is out to get you, while also not everyone you personally like is actually good for you too.)

[@Whats_in_a_name_1]

Some alternative advice; Life is a difficult journey and where you can find joy in it you should. If you haven't found love, then keep looking and try not to listen to those whom judge you on your brief but beautiful time on this earth. Dance and be merry, for soon your light will have blown out. Having fun, laughing and partying at any age is a sign of good health and a celebration of life.

[@Reducetoqsh]

Well said!

[@Fx_-]

Yea bur frat parties are much more a hedonistic thing than are normal merry parties

[@Mereologist]

The call of the nihilist to mindless hedonism. You are of no benefit to yourself or society and better expelled from it.

[@kissenklauer7011]

I'm 30 at a frat party (kinda, we don't exactly have frats in Germany) because I struggled all my twenties with recovering from trauma (still do but it's getting better), and I have so many things that I never did in my youth because of it. pretty much all my friends are significantly younger than me.

[@EasyBreazyB]

In time that's just not gonna work dude

[@kissenklauer7011]

@@EasyBreazyB what would you suggest

[@vitorojasavila]

I was kind of immature because I didn't want to be like my father, he was very very aggressive. But after a life threatening health situation I decided (or more exactly, life force me) to mature. In the sense that I would behave in the best way in each situation, caring or assertive depending what is needed The Psychology of The Man-Child (Puer Aeternus)

[@zawzawz88]

It’s okay to be late in your development. Just remember to keep moving forward, my guy. Do what you feel like you gotta do, just don’t get stuck.

[@kissenklauer7011]

@@zawzawz88 thanks for the validating words 🙂

[@oliviaguirandou7536]

“ Or maybe you’re really a creep… like a seerrious creep 🤨” 🤣

[@jackiekjono]

A friend of a friend is an older wealthy yoga guy. He still dates 25 year old yoga girls. Those relationships last 2 years at most. They may as well be pet hamsters with benefits.

[@ryannielson8181]

Men don't date there equals

[@jrg305]

I mean 2 years is a full LTR in gay relationships. I don't know very many gay men who have had ones longer than a few months with the exception of the few you hear about on TV or in therapy groups who have been together since they were 20. 2 years is a long time...

[@Bikewithlove]

It takes two to tango. For every 50 year old Yoga guy that a 25 year old female dates, there’s at least a dozen other guys her age who dumped her. Age has nothing to do with it. Look at Ric Ocasek & Paulina - married with two kids.

[@who_is_dis]

God forbid an older guy consensually dates a grown woman. 🙄 I'm 29, and honestly you sound jealous. I'm getting sick of this weird societal trend of shaming the shit out of mens sexuality and trying to repress it as much as possible. A 25 year old yoga woman sounds like way more of an attractive option, why wouldn't he choose that? foh

[@MaitLember]

@@Bikewithlove What is up with them?

[@pavelvalenta2426]

man, im 40 years old, married, two kids and i really enjoy going to the electronic music parties from time to time with much younger people. I hope its last for a while not being creepy.

[@boi3987]

He is not talking about you. People are completely misinterpreting his point. You are a responsible father, you're not a 40 year old guy addicted to seeking pleasure, or so I assume. If you were - your life would become dysfunctional in one way or another.

[@pavelvalenta2426]

@@boi3987 yeah, you are right. actually i think i have more fun there than younger people who are on the party every week. coz for me its christmass :)

[@callanc3925]

@@boi3987 Blows my mind how many people are blatantly misunderstanding what he said. So many claim he said being old automatically makes you a creep. Its not being old, but being hedonistic and old enough to know better. If you get to 40 and dont have serious responsibilities and commitments, then something isnt going right.

[@jamesrussell1979]

Very true 👍 👌 😮

[@acquanellaogbemudia9930]

Very informative Thanks

[@amberthompson7643]

I think a lot of people ignore their inner voice that says "what the hell am I doing?", chase pleasure, ignore what's hard, ignore that desire to become better because it's hard.

[@TheGreatAustino]

I believe distractions will be the main culprit of a downfall recorded in the history books

[@baethamora]

Don’t even glance at the devil. The minute you do you are toying with your own self destruction and great harm to those around you. Do what is for your greatest HEALTH and positive self image and you will do the same for others. Role model or creep? Your choice.

[@felixir7368]

Outside biblical context, the definition of devil can be redefined into whatever you want it to, so we’re confined to the bible and its teachings. Heavily emphasizes on love and understanding, and to not carry judgement towards others. Labeling somebody a creep is judgemental.

[@SomethingCoool8O]

Shhh

[@BeardVsTheWorldUK1]

Great ideas, but it is very hard not to look at the devil when he is ubiquitous and no one remembers what he looks like, what to watch out for, etc. As Dylan sang “Sometimes Satan comes as a Man of Peace.”

[@Sylver_Echo2923]

​@felixir7368 The Bible tells us not to Judge hypocritically. We need and use Judgement every single day.

[@corysmith3447]

religion is delusion

[@GraceHarwood88]

There’s nothing like stripping humanity of hope to encourage hedonistic whims and pleasure seeking. The future is something unconscious and lifeless if a healthy tomorrow isn’t promised.

[@corysmith3447]

its not hedonism to have fun consenualy long term and have a main partner wife, thats normal way of life before the victorian era which a minotiry of trad cons are trying to bring desperatly back, sorry things are going to the way they always were, i used to be a jp fan but hes lost it.

[@corysmith3447]

@@b_740 if your monogomus thats cheaintg POS thing to do, thats a problem among many that most mongomus couples deal with, every study that is credible peer reviewed sayts that people in open relatioships are happier, healtither, less , anxiety, less depressed, duh because thats the way human history has ALWAYS been aside fromt he victorian era influenced trad cons,, it has nothing to do with one night stands, its PAIR bonding with one person and having 1 or 2 freidns with benifits the most normal configuration thorughout hisotry

[@mewe1023]

​@@corysmith3447Normal ? lol, ofcourse only a creep will say like that 😂😂. Its like giving everyone the best pieces of steak and end up with marrying an empty plate.

[@corysmith3447]

@@mewe1023 your creep idol JP that creeps like you idolize, has been accused of SA 4 times! lol , every single peer reviewed study shows people in open relationships are happier healither less anxiety and less depressed, enjoy your misery.

[@corysmith3447]

@@mewe1023 so facts, history, and science are creepy great logic, and every peer reviewed sceintific study shows people in open relationships are happier healthier less anxiety less depressed. i'd rather side with the so called 'creeps' normal people than you.

[@DensonFletch]

I felt myself or do feel myself slipping into this, im now trying to change

[@hannahstrella1734]

Well said 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 No one dare to tell the true like Dr Peterson does .

[@BerserkersBattle-816]

I drink alone..... Not. I don't drink at all because I would probably be doing coke and heroin by the end of the night. I gotta stay away from all of it. Been clean and sober 16 years and I don't miss it.

[@EJosephBoga]

I had 3 beers after work last night. I didn’t get the urge to do heroin or meth. It was a normal night because i’m not an impulse creature.

[@LuminescentShine]

​​​@@EJosephBogaIt was his weakness that controlled him. Everyone has one even you. The point is that he conquered it. Have you conquered yours or are you here to talk down on someone that got their act together?

[@EJosephBoga]

@@LuminescentShine You hear to be a crybaby about differing opinions? Jordan has his life together? 😂 He’s a feminine cross dressing benzo addict that never lifted a weight in his life. He also seems morbidly depressed. Yeah he’s a model of stability 👍

[@lynnmoore611]

Power on!

[@lynnmoore611]

Power on!

[@WorDouglas8]

Wow - some of this things this man says is necessary and very much needed!

[@margareth1504]

You are brilliant Jordan Peterson ❤ You make sense

[@SomethingCoool8O]

Shhh

[@cxBuck]

Now admit this applies to your Buddy Donald Trump.

[@stevepest4143]

​@@cxBuckyou wish. Applies to Biden.

[@susanwjoh0re735]

how?the man is a m0r0n. basically if a man does not live like he does then he is a creep.

[@mrsquietmusic6413]

Very true.

[@N8_R]

I used to be a creep. I still am, but I used to be one too.

[@awakened9796]

That eyebrow while he was saying creep, this guys awesome

[@lvluxdelight]

That was great 😂

[@TheGreatAustino]

Like, a SERIOUS creep 🤨

[@deepstateglobalgala]

"Cause I'm a creeeep..."

[@Tay-en1zs]

...what the hell am I doing here..

[@Mbrace818]

I wish I were special.

[@Jdabomb93]

🎶 “I’m a loser babyyyyyyy, so why don’t you kill meeeeeee.” 🎶 (Different song)

[@vidgamarr5126]

Best Nirvana song hands down

[@whitecocksmatter]

@@vidgamarr5126 Nirvana? It's a Pearl Jam bop

[@peace1108]

I can't tell byou how many times I listened to this. It's the greatest!!!! I really like it. I want to get that into my being to help others and always remind myself.Many, many people enjoy your content. Many thanks and blessings for you and your family.

[@SirLeDoux]

Man I love Jordan Peterson

[@DigbyOdel-et3xx]

100% true. Dr. Peterson gets it.

[@royjonesjrjr6396]

He is talking about Bert Kreischer.

[@saakers]

Bert's awesome

[@navboi12]

Now everyone's a creep, thanks to social media.

[@AntiChrist666-k8c]

only if you are a man, if you are female, its enjoying life

[@PaulBrower-bw4jw]

We need the face-to-face contacts that used to be the norm before social media and artificial intelligence. We got instant feedback on our character. We need to care about others so that they can care about us.

[@AntiChrist666-k8c]

@@PaulBrower-bw4jw By "we" you mean men obviously, because woman only need photos , height and networth, you see, the system is perfect as it is, for them.

[@SNYhandle]

⁠@@AntiChrist666-k8c Perfect for women? A nice face to look at, smaller size and patience isn’t something all women have, but, we want these in women. Even then, many men will risk their & their partner’s health by cheating. It’s not a walk in the park for either side.

[@SNYhandle]

We expect women to have a nice face to look at, be smaller in size, be patient & faithful yet many men will risk their health & their partner’s & kids’ wellbeing for momentary pleasure by cheating, which many men don’t see a problem with. Both sides have issues. Don’t let bitterness devour you.

[@theresefournier3269]

Lovely delivery❤

[@TheNephilim101]

Touché !!!

[@lucasley20]

He is absolutely right!

[@SomethingCoool8O]

Shhh

[@corysmith3447]

if your a single woman over 50 or even 40 you better not go to any parties if your single or recenlty divorced, because hes talking about you, watch out.

[@uloph8052]

Dildo

[@susanwjoh0re735]

@@corysmith3447 basically if you are older then dont have any fun. this is the mindset of constipated boomers. it's really sad that there are millions of dummies who listen to him.

[@Notthatkevguy]

I used to be a creep. Then I cleaned my room. And now I'm a creep with a tidy room.

[@FriendofDorothy]

excellent comment.

[@josephc-m3d]

Often the most popular guy at the frat party is the psychopath. 😂😂I’m not generalizing but just pointing out the undetected creep is the one doing the big damage.

[@JYoung3rd]

I agree 100%

[@humptydumpty-m8u]

overthinking. going down

[@LaMarcusChatman]

​@@humptydumpty-m8uStatement completely accurate.

[@wot2261]

​@@humptydumpty-m8u underthinking limits progress

[@azaleaslight3599]

NAILED IT ...

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

Actually De Sade argued that EVERYONE capable of acting upon their own impulses should do exactly that. So the answer to who wants to be around someone behaving in that manner is someone who is also behaving in that manner. It's pretty simple.

[@1character.]

Go deeper. 👏✊ It gets more.

[@rhess10]

Dear every narcissist in the world... This is the video for you.

[@jpw5029]

I reckon jbp is a narcissist

[@HistoricJeckyll]

​@@jpw5029 Diagnosing people with NPD is a symptom of NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder)

[@jpw5029]

@@HistoricJeckyll I never said I wasn’t a narcissist

[@2cats24GOD]

Lol...exactly where my thoughts went because it is a perfect description of my ex

[@Arguments_only]

@@2cats24GOD and probably you.

[@apdurn]

“Well, cause, who the Hells gonna wanna hang out with you?!”

[@adamburdt8794]

But we all know that toxic person who everyone seems to still hang out with.

[@noneyabidness9644]

If Epstein has taught us anything, it's *EXACTLY* who would want to hangout with creeps. 😉🤭

[@TheRexTera]

The problem with this is that it doesn’t allow for people to screw up and make mistakes and figure things out. Moral shortcuts aren’t a good thing because it doesn’t allow people to grow.

[@FriendofDorothy]

too deep and true for most here; they want to shame people, not for them to grow....

[@TheKnellBelle]

Why doesn't it? I think the idea is you should assume you're going to screw up plenty even when you're at your most careful; but there's no need to make more mistakes than necessary. Avoiding certain courses of action after thinking things through, seeking advice from people you admire, and taking note of the outcomes others encounter aren't shortcuts. As one of my Jr. High teachers would always say, "You don't have to shoot yourself in the foot to know it's a bad idea."

[@DensonFletch]

He's saying try man if you can see wyd you will do less of it and not just self praising but self aware

[@callanc3925]

Actually it does, which is why age is a factor in what hes saying. We excuse young peoples poor behaviour and mistakes because they lack wisdom and experience. If you get to double their age and still lack the same wisdom and experience then you need to get your shit together.

[@summertewksbury8876]

Nice work Mr. Peterson. Thank you. 🙌

[@mirba6933]

This is the truth.

[@Charybdismoon]

I find this interesting and confirming. I know men who think it's pretty normal for 30 to 40 year olds to be with teenagers. They have found every way they can to justify and yet other men call those creeps. They're just creeps

[@Padraigp]

I read 120 days of soddom when i was pretty young and it seemed like a warning ..everyone is impotent. I think people dont understand marquis de sade the same way i understood it. He certainly didnt make a case for the attractiveness of debauchery. Quite the opposite. It was around the time i was also reading about tantra and other things which are the exact opposite. In one instance ..that of de sade... the pleasure centers are weak and so a lot of pressure must be put on them to get the fountain to flow a tiny squit of pleasure out of the person. In tantra the sea is wide and deep and long and the pleasure is not about constricting the pipe hard enough to get a weak stream to squire but a deep and oceanic bliss within oneself ... so when i read those books and thought about life the universe and everything i decided which path would be the most pleasant and which ends better. So by the time i met another yogic person to go out with we literally touched arms and had orgasam 😂 that was the best choice i think.

[@Padraigp]

And yes they are creeps.

[@cvetanvelinov4404]

I know women who believe the same thing. So what?

[@Charybdismoon]

@@cvetanvelinov4404 They're creeps as well.

[@SOME808GUY-n3r]

​@@cvetanvelinov4404terrible creeps. Asking for polyamourus relationships, selling their sex, wanting to be with Machiavellion characters or grooming others to be that way.

[@RichardSmith-sg3fj]

Wow, I actually like what he had to say this time.

[@РафаэлаХендрикс]

Jordan keeps me sane. ❤

[@FriendofDorothy]

so what would be wrong with thinking for yourself instead of seeking gurus?

[@susanwjoh0re735]

peterson groupies are really weird. cant you think for yourself sweetie? let me tell you something: a creep fcked his daughter.

[@dr-px1zr]

Truth

[@matikramer9648]

Good point

[@daveangelovici9486]

Yeah, that's right! Nice creep jacket Jordan ;)

[@juiceman7649]

I remeber chillin at frat partys and alot of times there was older dudes but they're intentions wern't bad and they were real respected dudes i think its just your intentions and reasons being there, if you are there for the wrong reasons the group will weed you out

[@360decrees2]

Oh, _chilling_ at frat parties. At first I wondered what the devil 'chillin' were doing at a frat party.

[@hideyasuyuki1]

30 at a frat party is insane. frat parties are for college students not fully grown adults. The idea of getting plastered ever night should lose its appeal in your mid to late 20’s.

[@evage99]

It should never have any appeal to begin with, it's a moronic practice.

[@hideyasuyuki1]

@@evage99 it’s called being young. I don’t question the behavior of a large group provided they aren’t committing crimes. Even Jordan Peterson had his party phase and acknowledged its necessity, just not in excess. Let young people be young.

[@MarcusN-kp1jn]

Nope.

[@nix4110]

@@hideyasuyuki1 what is it about being young that makes you want to get drunk? It's only fun if you're hot and cool and can get lots of people's attention.

[@AnimosityIncarnate]

​@@nix4110 real 😂

[@suzanne4504]

Thank you, well said. 😅

[@heyNXS]

and the days go by...

[@edgardozuniga4455]

I would like Jordan Peterson explaining the implications of enjoying to consume sadistic literature

[@nonikita]

Don't forget he wrote An ABC of Childhood Tragedy

[@timhensley3695]

Enjoying it? He is a Doctor. You have to consume the good with the bad to be able to help. No disrespect just saying.

[@anthonyhughes8026]

Get your grammar right and you might just have something witty to say about your betters.

[@edgardozuniga4455]

@@anthonyhughes8026 I know I should; english is not my first language actually. I am from Honduras in Central America. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@anthonyhughes8026]

@@edgardozuniga4455 Thank you for your gracious response. I was forgetting that English might be second language. Take care 🙏🏼

[@kevinscott59]

I never realized hedonism had a retirement age.

[@Jonohobs]

But you can be a hedonist among people your own age, a frat party guy at a highschool party is a creep too

[@FriendofDorothy]

The word 'hedonism" is saturated with shame. It is so Cecil B. DeMille. A life without pleasure is not a life, it's a vain attempt to appear morally superior.

[@meganparrish807]

​​@@FriendofDorothy You can have pleasure without being hedonistic, that's why hedonism is a shame. Having fun isn't about going to parties, being wealthy, or having lots of *ex, fun can be found without those things Add: Basically, hedonism is excessive. Excesses are not something to be proud of.

[@MarcusN-kp1jn]

Only a guy only eating meat and never drinking alcohol would rationalize it the way he does.

[@nix4110]

@@meganparrish807 no. Hedonism is explicitly defined as the pursuit of pleasure, or the belief that pleasure is the point of life

[@johnrodgers2018]

Worked with a 50 year old hedonist. Jordan nailed it. He was a nice enough guy but no one liked him and When he died after years of self abuse no one went to his funeral.

[@bonnieromick9397]

True and Exact

[@bonnieromick9397]

🤣🤣

[@msfifi8669]

Superbly said. Instinct- feeling guilty for exploiting others must be the worst feeling one can experience. I was wondering if psychopaths and Narcissists are immune from feeling guilty?

[@daisysun7214]

The Marquis of Sad-so appropriate ✅

[@BeardVsTheWorldUK1]

Why is it SO hard for us to say no to things???

[@Smashingblouse]

No.

[@ARSvAl1111]

It's easy to say no. It's harder not to do it after)

[@georgepatience4069]

If 61 year old Brad Pitt was at the frat party...🤔.....🤫.....

[@justaperson9155]

Would still be creepy if he wasn't there for a 60 year old reason.

[@justaperson9155]

He has the novelty of celebrity as a reason. But that's the only reason to justify him being there. If Brad Pitt didn't have the celebrity, it doesn't matter about his appearance, nobody would want him there as a random 60 year old.

[@alanwakeup3344]

@@justaperson9155 no, it would be hot

[@GemmaKelly-tw1xm]

It’s still creepy

[@Mor_decai]

Whats a frat party?

[@tomimpala]

That is true. People lower their standards for who they are, and it starts to effect them in ways they don't know where they just repelling people away.

[@mikecarlson6416]

some true wisdom

[@brienjefferson9488]

Jordon, not for all. Some of us traveling construction workers are alone. The world made it this way. People only care about how they can use you for your service.

[@BramHepburn]

Don't write off your life so quickly

[@callanc3925]

Why does that mean you have to hang out with drunk 20 year olds?

[@joshuabruhn9801]

Creepiest creeps are in their 20's.. usually maturation and knowledge set in by the 30s.. my demon has been starved out in isolation and in isolation I have perfect contentedness.

[@sidewindersid4180]

Great comment

[@callanc3925]

Thats exactly what hes saying. The people whos maturation, knowledge, and wisdom havent set in by the time they are in their 30's, 40's etc are creeps. We forgive young people for behaving poorly because they need to make mistakes and experiences in order to learn. We look at people funny when they have gotten relatively old and still not learnt.

[@Alwaysdisciplined100]

Have you seen the world lately? I would say people who just please themselves are sometimes amongst the least harmful people in this world.

[@noneyabidness9644]

Facts

[@dr.christopherdiaz4473]

Quit the club by 25...quit the bar by 30.

[@Herberberber]

incel

[@FriendofDorothy]

I didn't quite either until 65 and have no regrets. It was a lot of fun but sobriety is perfect for my current age.

[@HTHTNT77]

Creeps don’t just hang out at frat parties. They can play along with family life and be someone’s husband and still be a creep. Creeps hang out anywhere and everywhere because that’s who they are… the setting is convenient.

[@Washius]

And nowhere is it more convenient than with the youth while they are inebriated.

[@MarcusN-kp1jn]

Or in youtube comment sections.

[@callanc3925]

He never said that the only thing creeps do is hang out with drunk people half their age. But quite literally, if youre 40 and still engaging in that behaviour then you are a creep. Your life and wisdom is moving imperceivably slow.

[@susanwjoh0re735]

@@callanc3925 what? im not going to take advice on a boomer whose idea of fun is engaging in verbal diarrhea about his abrahamic santa claus. he has no idea of what fun is because he is on a meat only diet and now everybody has to be miserable like him? guess what, a "creep" banged his daughter. and a 40 year old grown azz man should live however the f he wants.

[@dannomusic47]

Sometimes he just speaks too definitively, as if there is only this one way for your life to go and it had better generally resemble his trajectory or else it’s somehow perverse and wrong. There are many ways to be on this planet; get used to it, Jordan.

[@mikebrisebois]

I love this one. Amazing.

[@martinkarori7203]

I have tried this. He is right.

[@rebelraccoon9018]

This is why I admire Dr Jordan Peterson.😆 He isnt aftaid to speak his mind freely and unapologetically. 👏

[@nickwells20]

"You might be a real creep...like a REAL CREEP" lol

[@nikitaw1982]

I think he's just bitter about his daughter sleeping around. Can't blame her. can't blame other women who want the gravy train

[@sirrys]

@@nikitaw1982 “sleeps around” she is married lol. Yeah that’s definitely what bother Peterson I’m sure😂😂

[@Sylver_Echo2923]

She diddled Andrew Tate, look it up.😂😂​@@sirrys

[@sirrys]

@@Sylver_Echo2923 according to her they met on a business meeting. People see one innocent photo of a man and a woman sitting together and they immediately jump to conclusions, as if it was something out of ordinary. And even if they were intimate, I don’t think he’d be upset about a one night stand his daughter had.

[@Sylver_Echo2923]

@sirrys She looked pretty guilty to me and there were photos too of them, dunno if you seen those.but she wore a short black dress and his hands are pretty low on her body. She was also married to another guy at that time, but flew out to see another man.... I might agree with you about her dad not being mad if they were, if she wasn't married and if the man wasn't Andrew Tate lol.

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

If some creep sees this at 40, it's too late. He's etched his pattern of behavior in stone.

[@MuppetsSh0w]

Ignorant statement

[@m.p.4141]

it's never too late. Harder, yes. Having to retrain more years of addiction, yes. But not too late.

[@SKBottom]

Mathematically possible, sure, but not the way to bet.

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

@m.p.4141 yes. I believe in redemption, and am not as pessimistic as most believe. But I'm a realist and see patterns. I don't see many people past a certain age with the fortitude for meaningful self change, let alone to truly reinvent themselves.

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

@SKBottom I'm 49, and changing the smallest, most inconsequential habit has proven extremely difficult. Sexual deviance is at the very core of a person's psyche, someone can police it's manifestation, thats it.

[@jerryat187]

I love ur suits. Mr Peterson

[@nancysarpi9916]

Yes

[@GMBXNY718]

If you're an older man and younger woman are attracted to you and they're beautiful and of legal age, whats the problem? Not everyone is the same. And what business is it if its consensual and noones complaining or getting hurt. Get your own life

[@Domainexpansioncolon3]

•"what business is it if its consensual and no one's complaining or getting hurt?" How do you know no one's getting hurt?

[@GMBXNY718]

@@Domainexpansioncolon3 Here you go.. Do you know the meaning of consensual?

[@Domainexpansioncolon3]

@@GMBXNY718 that's a dodge. Answer the question.

[@LfunkeyA]

@@Domainexpansioncolon3 dummy, you can apply your question to anyone.

[@callanc3925]

If youre an older man, you are by definition a creep if you still have the same knowledge and wisdom of a 20 year old.

[@cubanito48]

Sounds good on paper.

[@northstar92]

idk, made sense to me. muscles atrophy when they're not challenged, why not morality?

[@GemmaKelly-tw1xm]

Not just on paper, u see it in life all the time. The guy or woman in the bar in their 50’s hitting on teenagers. Creepy sad behaviour.

[@susanemberton9404]

​@@GemmaKelly-tw1xmteenagers in a bar?

[@dranreb1118]

​@@susanemberton9404you cannot possobly believe teenagers dont hang out on bars all the time

[@cubanito48]

@@GemmaKelly-tw1xm i also see women treat men their age like garbage, i also see good faithful men be taken advantage and treated poorly by society. I also see men with younger women who people idolize. Real wisdom is understanding that you have to do what makes you happy .