When Your Character is so Cheap Hwoarang Seems Honest

[@DanteHikato]

0:51 "her broken movement is gonna be interesting" Hworang LITTERRALLY STARTS HITTING AIR AND HITTING HER

[@deanbrooks7297]

Yep that’s Hworang players in a nutshell.

[@udon2929]

he literally lost the round and didnt hit her in that segment tho

[@パンドーラー-y7m]

@@udon2929 he literally did hit nothing in the timestamp and zafina got caught during sidestep. She's literally on hwo's left side and hwo hits her with low kick. mash pause or watch is x0.25 speed. 0:52 to be precise

[@udon2929]

@@パンドーラー-y7m ohh youre right. altho it looks like tekken 7 movement was to blame, he didnt get anything much rewarding compared to what zaf can do at least

[@byeebitch]

Ikr omfg like this dude crying while PUNISHING Zafina... Not only that, with Whoarang... Talk about broken AND cheap.

[@yoruhara6833]

18:23 yesterday i fought against a Steve in ranked who when my controller died mid round not only waited for me to pull it in but also let me return the damage that he dealt. So there's honourable people in ranked even though it's rare.

[@RawSpaghetti6969]

Steve mains are honourable

[@protagonist_koon2260]

@@RawSpaghetti6969 yes our back 1 is bullshit but we will respect our opponents🤝🏾

[@KulaGGin]

@@protagonist_koon2260 b is for broken.

[@RawSpaghetti6969]

@@protagonist_koon2260 B1 is broken but thats abt it for how good steve is. if u think steve is bs ur just bad. his only other bropken move in df2 got nerfed and its only good now not broken

[@protagonist_koon2260]

@@RawSpaghetti6969 bruv I use Steve💀

[@haziqtheunique]

I'm just amazed they were even able to mocap Zafina's moveset. She literally moves like a crab.

[@forsak3n749]

Yes, a very hot crab.

[@yowanhauroo3890]

@@forsak3n749 creep

[@strayzzfaxz6740]

@@yowanhauroo3890 So it's creepy for people to find women attractive now what 😂

[@riveteye93]

@@yowanhauroo3890 ah yes, what a deprived "girl" fetishist, disgusting. I, too, find women to be completely unattractive.

[@forsak3n749]

@@yowanhauroo3890 oh no, the white knight simp man is after me! Scary stuff!

[@Yasmofo]

I wont ever understand ppl calling Hwo cheap when besides a good move list he also has tons of weaknesses. To play him well and not just mash is the hardest job fr

[@tibz7634]

Same, Hwoa requires more effort then most of the roster.

[@sergioZI]

Heh, in TMM's video about the cheapest characters, Hwoarang is classified as being cheaper than Zafina...maybe something changed after a year

[@charlieflight6124]

A lot of things change in the span of a year, my friend.

[@igordrotsky5677]

not to forget king and his huge range of unblockable moves, air throws, ground throws, reversals and guarenteed follow ups. hwoarang also has alot of different pushback moves that you cant punish, including a range of different rage drives players use to their advantage.

[@coolername98]

"range of different rage drives" ok bro it's two rage drives

[@jimdino77]

21:00 stuff like this is why you lost, can’t blame the character 😂

[@oreowithurea5018]

Man... This matchup is actually so toxic. Zafina can literally just backdash out of 90% of Hworang's pressure

[@Ury3L]

Not just backdash but go under everything, she can challenge a lot of moves get away with just a slap in the hand or none at all...

[@estoylaroca]

And you just love to see Hwoarang players get beaten up. Brings tears to my eyes, really.

[@deanbrooks7297]

@@estoylaroca it’s the best thing I’ve seen in tekken 7 since the Geese reveal trailer.

[@hectorchainlock6953]

I think the term „toxic“ gets used too lightly these days …..

[@RationalMinded]

Lol and characters that can't simply movement their way out of his pressure have no choice but to suffer through it until an opening presents itself, then you're at risk of eating a power crush that launches. That's the flip side. Styles make fights but I wish movement was universal in Tekken.

[@Flare3500]

12:16 TMM "I need a low option , time to use an unblockable" lol

[@1verse4ll]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@StardustCrusader18]

I'll say Zafina is worse because at least Hwoarang doesn't crush all your moves and backdash all day to make you want to sleep instead of play.

[@deanbrooks7297]

Correction *Hworang CAN crush all of your moves due to his absurd amount of armor on his attacks coupled by his plus frames on everything equals bad time for damn near 50 percent of the cast.

[@AshishAroraa]

​@@deanbrooks7297 50% only that means he is mid tier? Yes yes.

[@udon2929]

@@deanbrooks7297youre kinda saying he doesnt need those tools to excel in his gameplay. he only does low high crushes while zafina crushes in a lot and is evasive with mids, all within her main tools.

[@KyeCreates]

​@@udon2929two different gameplay styles. at least zafina can be countered by good mids and crushing her moves.

[@udon2929]

@@KyeCreates that applies to a lot of characters. i just came from a local tekken sesh and i can admit with the amount of strength hwo has, my good mid tools have been often evaded/crushed by zafina player quite often. can officially say the matchup between zafina vs hwo is a toxic one.

[@scoobydoobydoooo]

As someone who has been playing Tekken for a good while, it is true what TMM is saying regarding the obvious meta that people all clamber towards. Zafina was rarely even seen in TTT2 and now she's suddenly used everywhere. But Hwoarang is still frustratingly op though. He's up there with Akuma and Zafina as the trifector of frustrating to play against.

[@rastafari2k3]

I think Zafina is a really cool character. But I don't really play anything else than KIng and AK, so I can't be bothered learning her

[@engr4051]

Hwoarang Top 1 confirmed 😍😍😍

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

​@@rastafari2k3 Playing mostly King and AK would be a dream to me. I mostly face Lei, Kunimitsu, Hworangs, Katarina, Eddy, and Lucky Chloe

[@Tsareena54i]

Bc zafina was over the top trash in Tekken tag 2. And now she is one of the best characters in the game.

[@egor2069]

20:36 nice punish

[@vladislavvladislav2908]

😂😂😂

[@MaskedGuyCh]

We're still complaining about characters being cheap?

[@basuka93]

Hwoarang is honest 🙂

[@davidhero1000]

Didnt see hworang won any major tourney in 7 years of tekken only online scrubs think hes broken lmao

[@KingMalaxis]

​@@davidhero1000 agreed, I remember I was called cheap for using him against a TGO Yoshi in a casual match.

[@kiwi2257]

@@davidhero1000 Nobody said he's broken, he's just a cheesy motherfucker who spams mixups and strings at every single level of play because that's how he is designed. This is even how he functions at the highest level of play. If you ever see a JDCR or Knee lose to a Hwo it's usually them getting mixed the fuck up with stance mixups and spammed out.

[@deanbrooks7297]

@@davidhero1000 just because he isn’t winning tournaments doesn’t mean he isn’t broken….feng Wei went years under the radar before anyone knew his potential.

[@basuka93]

@@deanbrooks7297 he got buffed to the moon, then everyone picked him up

[@c_karma_r]

people that complain about Hwoarang are hilarious

[@PCMBOOL]

Hworang mashers coming to the comments

[@thesilverwolfofnyc5077]

Hoping lee and Lars are as cool as jin and Kaz in 8 I'm currently learning jin. Main is Lars and Josie though Lee from a lore standpoint is one of my favorite characters "The Silver haired demon"

[@lassi1203]

I hope they dont over-do lee's "flamboyant businessman" look. Too much glam could make him look like asian Prince (the artist).

[@anormalhumanhopefully8570]

​@@lassi1203 some of Prince's costumes would make for a fire ass FG character design

[@lassi1203]

@@anormalhumanhopefully8570 default 8 is close

[@rnvol3931]

Oh god that backdash is beautiful

[@temjin0014]

If Zaf was in every Tekken since 3 she’d seem less cheap.

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

You mean like Xiaoyu?

[@vista1456786]

@@diddlenfiddle7311 Literal case with Xaioyu though Tekken 3 AOP was the best version , she also had one of the best launchers too (Nothing of EWGF or Ogre and T.Ogre's wanning moon but ws+2 launched on normal hit and was safe if you didn't go into bt if I remember right).

[@estoylaroca]

But lol, this was actually a good player. Backdashed when TMM was mashing. Blocked low when he had the read. Down jab to shut down the pressure. I mean????? He played well.

[@Reyalp-Lla]

I agree.

[@Shibu_PL]

Imagine complaining about Zafina while also using Marduk, Geese and Hwoarang lmfao the hypocrisy.

[@byeebitch]

@@Shibu_PL Ikr? Idiots sure are always blind to their own cringe hypocrisy.

[@TsutajyaVlard]

17:38 xDDDDDDD no fcking way i will just show this to zafinas lawyer and he will quit his job

[@satoshiuchiha931]

I mean after all the 2d characters....the overpowered dlcs.....the Akumas , Leroys, Fakhus , Marduks and Zafinas.....i think we can safely say that Hwoarang is one of the most honest characters in the game 😂

[@SimaoRodrigues...]

"Hwoarang is honest" Said fucking no-one.

[@satoshiuchiha931]

@@SimaoRodrigues... i mean.....i never had any problems against Hwoarang. He is pretty predictable and 80% of his moves are highs. But i said he is honest in comparison to these broken chars i wrote above 👆

[@whatwhy6349]

Fakyouram got nerf to shit wtf are you complaining about

[@berserker2.0]

Akuma is not dlc

[@satoshiuchiha931]

@@berserker2.0 never said he was

[@carlon6125]

Zaf player blocks huge lows and punishes correctly *damn this character is so cheap*

[@byeebitch]

Literally him everytime when he fights Zafina 😂😂

[@joshjones9749]

12:16 was hilariously satisfying

[@KeithKillingly]

this is what you get for picking hwo, karma

[@marquisbean1752]

You know you are a high level player when you see a rage art.😂 When the screen freezes you're like "Wtf is this!?" Then your heart sinks when you realize you pressed a button.😮

[@Beforezzz]

Maybe an unpopular opinion here, but I find Zafina infinitely more tolerable compared to characters like Kunimitsu, Josie and Kazumi.

[@FlyXcur]

As a king player Zafina and Xiaoyu are so damn awful to be matched against so many evasive moves that somehow duck under my mids

[@WitchHunterRobin]

Kunimitsu is the cheapest by far !! no character will give you easier rank up

[@andresmerida8730]

Love the content bro keep it coming 🙌🏻

[@javierperezmerino9457]

Backleish is honest. XD

[@arturiaarthus8367]

it's pretty clear how broken Hwoarang really is, no need to be salty about Zafina.

[@kemalerdemsahin410]

I used both and I can easily say Zafina is much more honest than Hwoarang. Once you learn the Zafina matchup you can play normally against her, you still have to be careful because of her backdash but other than that its not that hard to deal with her compared to Hwo. If you learn the Hwoarang matchup he'll still keep you on your toes. If you fail to duck, sidestep, sidewalk him correctly he will get either huge plus frames or a damaging launcher. I love playing him but man isn't he tiring to play against.

[@youravrggaymer]

As a hater of your character i really appreciate your comment 😂

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

As a hater of Zafina I don't respect you at all, wouldn't be surprised if you were a Kunimitsu/Katarina/Lucky Chloe player

[@estoylaroca]

Zafina *FOR SURE* needs more fundamentals than Hwoarang. You still need to block, backdash, and sidestep with Zafina. With Hwo, you can just press buttons all day and win. With just 2 safe launchers on Hwo, you take the round.

[@youravrggaymer]

@@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 hey hey i meant i hate hwoa, zafina has been bae since ttt2

[@byeebitch]

@@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 As a hater of Whoarang, I don't respect you at all. You probably abuse the Mishima garbage. 🤡

[@muhtadaali8847]

That's why she is super OP. She can get out of pressure and strings where no one can

[@kiwi2257]

My optimistic hopium theory about why the later DLC characters all have god tier movement is because they are testing the waters for Tekken 8 and Tekken 8 will be a return to big sidesteps and backdashes because of the system mechanics and the bigger stages lol. In the reveal trailers for Kazuya/Jin the sidesteps look pretty beefy.

[@RyuShinkuuHadoken]

DLC characters are broken because the companies want you to pay for them, they always get more and more broken and cheap with each new one. Dragon ball fighterz is the most obvious case of that.

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

​@@RyuShinkuuHadoken Funny that the last dlc character from DbzF is top 1 in the game

[@Akechifan]

​@@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 and the fusions are also meta. As someone who's been playing DBFZ for a while the current game balance is really irritating.

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

@@Akechifan The same goes for Tekken imo I can cope with the fusions, but lab coat just discourage you to play

[@Akechifan]

​@@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 they really has a character everything plus more and called it a day.

[@chriswilson3126]

"I just don't care about ranked anymore" Spoken like a true tekken player.

[@morio9284]

What does "Tekken Prowess" mean? Is it kind of a ranking score or internet connection stability?

[@Xbox.4388]

Yeah right Hwoarang cheap asf

[@Kizzainpleh]

Yeah against scrubs like you

[@Xbox.4388]

@@Kizzainpleh Wasn’t talking to you stfu 🖕🏻

[@Xbox.4388]

@@Kizzainpleh I’m assuming you’re a Hwoar main

[@Kizzainpleh]

@@Xbox.4388 he’s one of ‘em

[@byeebitch]

Ikr, Whoarang is mad cheap. But these bïtches be crying about Zafina.

[@estoylaroca]

Not exactly the best example of "cheap vs cheap". TMM is good, but not exactly good with Hwoarang. I mean, you can see him miss a lot of good combos / optimizations. Precisely because he doesn't play Hwoarang a lot. Compared to this Zafina dude who's utilizing a fuck ton of Zafina's moveset. I mean, it's just like Knee using Akuma. He has Akuma on TGO, but he's nowhere near optimal Akuma gameplay. Like, he doesn't abuse the 10f huge dmg punisher, focus attack, jump shenanigans etc. So it's not a good representation of how "cheap" Akuma is. The same goes with TMM's Hwoarang. So I don't get why people are commenting as if Zafina's much cheaper, when it's just TMM not knowing how to use Hwo's cheap as good as the other guy.

[@michtir8113]

it's TMM chat, they just want to hate on every character who has pixelated boobs for some kind of bias

[@camilomarchesi1793]

Damn mainman maybe he plays zafina once in a blue moon

[@littlejohnprod.4289]

15:20 Fantastic combo!!!

[@ChrisREDb86]

hwo is honest mmf

[@Reyalp-Lla]

I don't think there's a written rule when a player goes inactive, the opponent must not attack.

[@ArseniyDemidenko]

ye, getting free points on an afk opponent must be the way to go! cuz points matter more than being a decent human being and wait at least a bit before taking a game

[@Akechifan]

It shouldn't be hard to not be an arsehole on a game. People care way too much about points.

[@florinalinmarginean1135]

​@@ArseniyDemidenko Honestly, even though I would not attack my opponent while afk, it's totally fair game. Shouldn't queue up for a ranked match if you're going to go afk in the first place

[@orchidforpresident]

@@florinalinmarginean1135 the freedom to do something isn't freedom from judgement. Yeah there's no rule stopping you from farming someone afk, no one is saying there is. But people are also free to think that's a dick thing to do.

[@TsutajyaVlard]

15:16 EEEEEEESH

[@Demon_Aura]

Nothing is cheap against Hwoarang or Zafina. So this match is balanced

[@techstuff3409]

Bro forever 720p

[@buulaa1]

always fun to see masku brains talk about ''fair'', casino mishima.

[@pedroroma933]

Dude that’s just what a bad matchup looks like. Also you just got outplayed. At this point I don’t trust any tekken players when they say a character is cheap.

[@SquirrelsFlyHigh]

Yeah alright, good games.

[@FullAdDariusBR]

If God pleases this cursed character will never make to Tekken 8.

[@MaxxSeemov]

Agree. Hwoarang should never be in any future Tekken games

[@roccoon9892]

Highly doubt they’ll exclude him from future tekken games when he has a shitton of people who play him. Plus, isn’t he Jin’s “rival”?

[@FullAdDariusBR]

@@roccoon9892 I was talking about Zafina, Maxx made a joke based on my comment.

[@200ike]

Y u no Backleish? Kappa

[@lamarpalmer25]

Hwo is 100% cheaper

[@olivegr333n]

i never struggle against zafinas as a hwo player idk

[@neeks_00_51]

It sucks because I’ve been a feng main since tag 2 and now everyone and there mom plays him .. hate it

[@PapaLiTo]

Cheap? nah I like both alot. Long legs fast/cool moves. What's not to love?

[@ChrisPeseri]

17:37 I have ZERO respect for Zafina. Especially after that.

[@colevan11]

More like zero respect for the player.. Where's the honor from that b??

[@ChrisPeseri]

@@colevan11 No honor for pay-to-win

[@byeebitch]

Omfg cry me a river 🤡

[@slasher8091]

i played feng from tekken 5 tho but now that alot of people are playing him i play him less

[@deanbrooks7297]

Better to use him than Hworang

[@brobocops]

Damn SWE is nice with Hwoarang

[@deanbrooks7297]

Who isn’t? Just press X and O and when that doesn’t work just backlash and rage Art combo for the win.

[@TnR-Strife]

​@@deanbrooks7297 glad u finally made it to orange ranks 😆

[@BLN_Snake]

Hwo is still cheaper

[@Kizzainpleh]

Yeah against low level scrubs like you

[@BLN_Snake]

@@Kizzainpleh uuhh i triggered a hwo main

[@Kizzainpleh]

@@BLN_Snake just speaking facts

[@BLN_Snake]

@@Kizzainpleh no youre just triggered

[@byeebitch]

@@Kizzainpleh Cry more

[@R1DZ.Z]

I love how he’s using one of my favourite kicker characters so good😅

[@jonteguy]

Pretty good player but Zafina is just so annoying.

[@FerventFourEyes]

It's so strange watching TMM play non Mishimas...even ones with a Wavedash. Hes a COMPLETELY different player. Hella strange...

[@ihasaproject]

TMM relies way too much on d+3,N+44. A better opponent would have been low parrying it. It's a good move but needs to be used sparingly.

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

Zafina is easy to deal with Hworang on the other hand stopped me from wanting to play..And knowing Tekken 8 has chip damage. I really loss any excitement for it knowing Hworang going to chip me to day..I don't even want the game now..Hopefully they do a drastic change of the character

[@WitchHunterRobin]

i know people who is stuck on Genbu- mighty ruler and after they bought kunimitsu or zafina they suddenly Fujin- Yaksa..... some DLC characters just skyrocket your rank... just use gimmicks no skill needed oh yeah dont forget Anna lol, even at Yaksa they just spam Db3 all day. Anna Db3 online carry them so hard because its faster and harder to see than normal snake edges.

[@kiwi2257]

FACTS. Some people are afraid to admit it. People say "but every character has bullshit in tekken!" and they are right, yes, but not every character's bullshit is equal. Some people really are like 2 full ranks above where they should be because their character's bullshit is carrying them lmao.

[@WitchHunterRobin]

@@kiwi2257 yeah and they are DLC characters Zafina Kunimitsu Anna (Db3 spam lol) Leroy (parry all day) Fahkumram (running 3 = +50 frames)

[@ArseniyDemidenko]

its just some dude's egos are so vulnerable and they are so insecure that they come up with any excuse to not admit that they are just bad at fundamental tekken and get carried hard by gimmicks/cheese instead of actually learning the game and recognizing the fun of learning fundamentals that actually carry over from one char to another and even from one tekken game to another

[@WitchHunterRobin]

@@ArseniyDemidenko yeah, exacly. Like i had met a fujin Alisa player he still only did gimmicks (d3, hopkick, snake edge (3+4) b3+4 lol and I absolutely destroyed him 3-0 twice then he left, I feel like doing really well against Alisa because I learned by fighting them alot But kunimitsu? Even if the player is trash, he can beat better players because she has range like a Soulcalibur character, kunimitsu has flashy animations making it hard to reckognize them. Cheap lows giving follow ups, broken rage drive, broken punishment, rage drive op, her 2222 string is so op.

[@vongockhanhduy3348]

@@WitchHunterRobin it's funny how AK is so honest as a dlc character

[@MasterNeptor]

There is not a good player. Me but I am overall gamings biggest scrub ever

[@8304u]

katarina is cheap

[@heikoschwar9693]

I mean Zafina is a DLC character so you need to pay extra for her so she is more expensive then Hworang which is included in the base game :D

[@andresmerida8730]

First

[@fillfreire2169]

4:22 8:42