Where are all the Black girl groups?

[@janpcs]

It is the record companies. They don't want to invest. They like to come in when it is time to harvest. It is the same with bands.

[@Obekanobee]

I miss the groups in general but the black girl groups were too tier. They gave you entertainment, talent, served looks, and had a unique style.

[@TerryEnergy]

From A Taste of Honey, Mary Jane Girls, SWV etc.

[@Barefoot_Joe]

Flo, OSHUN, Good girl, MzVee, The Shindellas, Glamour. and plenty more, stop looking at mainstream only, You're Welcome.

[@Lovejazz01]

I love the Shindellas

[@IvyPlans]

It’s not just black girl groups, a lot of the R&B singers and music is hard to find.

[@PhokenKuul]

Groups in general have disappeared. Just look at the top Spotify tracks.

[@nikkismith8447]

Singing, dancing, and FASHION!!!❤

[@shyheimparker8433]

There’s no boy groups neither

[@mickolascage3498]

u slow ash, migos, odd future, pro era, TDE, asap mob, griselda, rae sremmurd, the hilbillies, Earthgang, Dreamville, duckwrth. and way more but thas just off the top of my head. They right

[@systemcheck2769]

@@mickolascage3498 Half of those are on independent labels and the other half had 15 minutes of fame 10 fkn years ago lol.

[@danigurlie]

Check out the group No Guidnce. They just released a new single called Nostalgic.

[@bladycryo7565]

Flo needs backing. They have IT

[@StopSelfDoubting]

They weren’t getting paid as much as they should have.

[@exoduslife1661]

Changes in industry plus less money dedicated to artist development and compensation. It's easier to push an individual artist across paid media than a group.

[@utilitydisk]

thank you, that’s simple as that.

[@TonerLow]

I was just having a discussion the other day about how groups and bands are going away anyway. The music industry is dominated by individual personalities.

[@joegreatmusicfirstweir9646]

Toner low I totally agree with you music has changed like everything else in this nation 💯🏠🏠🎵🎸🎶🎸🎵💯💯💯💯

[@TonerLow]

@joegreatmusicfirstweir9646 and it is more prominent in this nation too I think. Pop groups are still huge in other parts of the world.

[@Latoyaclarksharkweek]

Theyre Korean.

[@Stephan__o.x]

The video is spot on!

[@telayajackson1.0]

There were more bands back then, and they seemed happier and more creative. Now, it's just constant remakes and collaborations without effort. Instruments are now replaced with auto tunes.

[@Jacob42086]

I hate when people make blanket statements like "oh autotune took over instruments" no it didn't!

[@josealejandrogarciarojas1115]

​@@Jacob42086 all good until that last line

[@yoloxoxo4042]

Thanks for this video. We need to know this

[@armaniguy83]

Love this! 💖

[@muiawat]

As a kpop fan , we’ve got to talk about the role that K-pop’s dedicated black audiences who have contributed to its success. The money is there ! And also K-pop oftentimes using American black culture to line its corporate profits and pad it’s “ concepts”

[@MinesAGuinness]

I'm not entirely convinced that the reality would support that idea in terms of audience and sales. It certainly doesn't explain why US music companies are not investing in black girl groups, whereas this video detailed some very informative explanations that are much more fundamental. As for the idea of appropriating 'concepts' it can be a nebulous term which can become spread quite thinly. Does a certain song contain significant musical elements of black American origin? That seems necessary to highlight, because it matters artistically. Then, where do the likes of Jessi fall in this discussion: doesn't growing up in Queens afford you the right to identify and perform the music and embody the culture of where you come from? Are k-pop idols wearing similar items of commercially-available, internationally-sold, heavily branded generic youth wear? Yes, and so is everybody else, to the extent that identifiable youth cultures barely exist in the way that they used to, and is predicated upon the name of a multinational brand on a label. It hardly seems like an issue specific to k-pop. The same applies to dancing. Is it cynical appropriation of dance culture specific to black American culture? That would certainly be a bold claim to make if related to breaking - not to mention far from the inclusive spirit of that art form. In their heavily choreographed routines, aren't most K-pop groups really emulating Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears - at several steps removed from the original appropriation, and more akin to a 21st century version of a chorus line show? Lyrically, k-pop stars who are pursuing solo careers internationally tend to perform songs which drop Korean for English. But what is there to conserve in lines such as 'pretty girls don't do drama'? What profound statement about American culture and society is it championing? Is it more or less authentic for being co-written by a Korean, a Brit, and a Swedish writer?

[@SlyRyFry]

@@MinesAGuinness I don't think it's that deep. Labels just don't do development deals for any new artists these days

[@MinesAGuinness]

@@SlyRyFry I understand that my comment was quite long, but it was indeed intended to express that the causes of this change in the kinds of music promoted by record companies is, as you say, largely down to what is cheapest and most profitable. If it can be sampled, programmed, autotuned, and requires next to no musicianship, then its a thumbs up. In order to do so, I was offering some counters to another theory that was certainly interesting but I think unlikely to be a significant factor.

[@haret0n]

what a fabulous, informative clip. thanks

[@danielacardoso5448]

En Vogue 👑Salt N'Pepa👑 They were great!👏🏾

[@regburgundy8701]

Spinderella cut it up 1time ❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥

[@pick6whodat]

Its far easier for the industry to control 1 person. It also makes the pie bigger for them to profit off of the actual talent. Just look at the top 100. You can count on 1 hand the number of actual "groups". Everyone else is an "artist"

[@Ferrist1]

They're not boy/girl bands or groups. They're called R&B groups. The boy girl category is associated with pop. Not R&B.

[@jlindsa]

Boy bands and girl bands died out ages ago. There may be a few stragglers but it's pretty will know group members earn crumbs because of all the splits involved.

[@bentley3612]

Where are the Peruvian trans groups

[@ElleBrOw]

in Peru

[@DissonantSynth]

I'm not racist so I don't listen to musicians specifically because they are white or black or brown.

[@BlkFreakozoid]

Who said that you were? 🤣 Very peculiar.

[@bladycryo7565]

Who told you to reveal yourself?

[@steven.events]

Where are the mixed gender black groups? What was wrong with The Fifth Dimension or Boney M?

[@joalco3]

Where are all the White girl groups?

[@AT-gu8by]

They generally have no talent, squeal and talk like six year olds and use auto tune, so nah.

[@nikkismith8447]

What’s that site: Black and Missing? Yeah…THAT part.

[@SnazzyBoxx]

Flo 🔥🔥🔥 will have a look at the rest

[@hugo54758]

Probably more in black/african countries than white countries? Maybe nigeria, namibia?

[@phile3741]

I think it’s more of a lack of r&b in general, and the modern music consumption style that is more direct and less variety.

[@danielland3767]

Girl Groups are like wrestling, you can be a great tag team or faction but eventually everyone HAS TO (not really and thats annoying) break away/turn heel to do their own thing it like Singles Run 101 or in this case Solo career 101. Like you can do solo things and be apart of a group, release songs both as a group AND solo. Let's not forget the major reason, industry can push what they want and we follow. Individuals csn recommend girl groups all day but unless we listen are we really going to pay attention cause everything tells me we don't unless it's spoon fed from the industry that might be the issue

[@BlueDinnie]

Social media. Everyone wants to be the main character. No one wants to sacrifice for the greater good of the whole.

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

😳 except for guys like me

[@danielland3767]

This, no one wants to be apart of something then say "it's hard for a solo person" like you don't have to be.

[@BlueDinnie]

@@jesusislukeskywalker4294 That's not really an apples to apples comparison being that you're a guy. Women are way different than men. Especially when it comes to attention.

[@BlueDinnie]

@danielland3767 ?

[@tongieskido1]

Please bring another one of these groups to the desk🙏

[@lnyawilliamsmoore]

JUNE'S Diary

[@tenaji]

Chapel Hart on a Country & Western flow / glow . They said it is not easy .

[@dantemoose420]

They all got that Queen B syndrome where they think they're the "real" star. Kinda like how every boy band fell out over the Timberlake complex.

[@forgotten1s]

Oshun!!!

[@user-ur8mp4ji6f]

Seriously everyone is sleeping on FLO. They should be huge

[@FOREVERSHAMEDONLINE]

Where are all the white girl groups?

[@bladycryo7565]

Make your own post about that niche if you wanna play that game. White girls in general are more successful rn as soloists, there’s no black r&b stars in general right now doing actual r&b.

[@foodie5367]

This is the problem with MSM and left leaning media. Your messaging is so off base. Nothing about this is grass roots. Nothing about “us” should be doing more to be supporting black girl groups. SoundCloud is out there, KZbin is out there. There are many creators that are making millions on their own, on their own, by promoting themselves and doing the work. If you do the work and you’re good. The market responds.

[@TheHekateris]

Kpop has has also stepped into that space.

[@BorndetailersTv]

They are all trying to be influencers not singers😂 music is to toxic and has a hidden narrative

[@isaiahferrara1149]

i think it’s more groups in general have become far less popular. i can’t think of one pop or rnb group that’s popped off this decade (outside of kpop) besides maybe brockhampton or flo. i’m talking regardless of gender or race. are boy bands even much a thing rn? shout out black girl groups tho i would love to see sick new ones pop off.

[@missvalerie4040]

A lot of great groups Teri and Monica, BlackGirl, BGOTI, Skillz, Jade, Kut Klose, MoKenStef……..I would love to hear from them

[@MsKim510]

I'm happy you mentioned BGOTI. They are never mentioned in the girl group conversation.

[@danielland3767]

See this is a comment that should be pinned cause I'm looking up everyone of these groups now, and pushing them as if they are my family personally cause we can't count on the industry

[@MariJu1ce]

is there even normal girl groups? or groups in general?

[@Y1001]

nobody's wondering that

[@senutylloj]

Not sure, but I can offer you a few pointers…

[@FOREVERSHAMEDONLINE]

What a racist title

[@AT-gu8by]

Lol! That’s not the definition of racism, it’s a genuine question. You must be a really fragile man, if you’re afraid to use the term Black in this context and conversation.🥴😒🤡

[@Doransdomain]

In the streets 😂

[@SlyRyFry]

It's the whole industry. No new artists/bands are getting development deals. Plus people are trying to keep their groups as small as possible so there's less ways to split the little bit of money coming in. All that and there's so much unoriginal slop to filter through that it's hard to get to anyone that's not being promoted properly. People just need to write good original music, too many are going the formulaic easy route these days and no one wants to listen to that

[@LashawntiGibson]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kylebarrett28]

They are back in the 90s

[@chouinardfrancais]

oh so you think brigning back Blaxploitation from the 70's is progressive...

[@chillabrew_glycolinstall]

What kinda poison are you spreading here?

[@BIGJONNN559]

Destiny’s Child.

[@LeRoiDeLaBoxe]

Cringe pandering from NPR per usual. Just stick to tiny desk.

[@AndreCarlos-oh4ux]

Boa tarde bom trabalho para todos Tmj sempre

[@gwang-mu9251]

Defund NPR.

[@user-unintentional]

lol, seriously. It’s a joke these days. Different time.

[@kissthesky40]

Good point. I can’t think of a Single black girl Rock Band! Weird.

[@Sarayah93]

Big Joanie. (I googled)

[@sergio_ssa_ba]

🇧🇷🇧🇷👏👏 as mulheres negras Americanas parecem uma pintura.👏👏🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@d3dd440]

Art class is now in jail

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

😔 yup

[@AJW3B4L]

Look up “Flo”

[@rgx420s]

But hardly any of those groups had longevity. One or two good songs and done. No multiple albums and decade long careers. Same with rap, and I love all music. Hopefully one day this will change.

[@TheValentineGuy]

There is also Cattiness between the women

[@JudgeDredd_]

I was just talking about Xscape yesterday

[@susmailservice2019]

FLO

[@brenty3766]

NPR constantly posting black only content has caused me to unsubscribe. Waste of tax payer dollars.

[@inuineko]

FLO in Tiny Desk Concert pleaaaaase

[@nicolasmoreno95]

I am not racist, but, where are all the black girl groups?

[@DariusShannon-c2s]

They have to dye their hair blond and be lighter then a Nalla 📁

[@lnyawilliamsmoore]

Matt 24:3,14,42,44; 1 John 2:15-17; 2 Tim 3:1,13; Rev 21:1-5; Luke 21:25-28 The end is Near and all things will be made new under heavenly kingdom rule coming shortly. 🙏🏾💜😀💐

[@VincentVader]

Don't care

[@craiggeorge3650]

FLO