Where Are They Now Metal Mania

[@RockNRoller66]

Ok, this came out at least 22 years ago so I wanna know 'Where Are They NOW?'.

[@Beez27]

Matt Kramer from Saigon Kick lives here in Miami...gives vocal lessons, has authored his poems, still records and occasionally performs.

[@deannaporter783]

I have come to the conclusion that getting old seriously sucks. Don’t let anyone tell you different, there lying. Let’s face it.. how some of these gorgeous talented young guys with more hair than most women..who had everything in ACCESS from drugs, women, sex and money... rock Gods.. (don’t come for me) they were larger than life and you either wanted to be with them or be like them. It was a huge scene and there is always a new young band just waiting to come right up behind them. The harder living rock stars look worse faster than most but I get it! I’d be depressed to! Mike Slaughter, Jani Lane and Vince Neil, Tom Kiefer and Axl Rose all fell apart! The price of selling your soul to the devil.. I use to say .. Farrah Fawcett needs to take down her famous huge poster of her in the red bathing suit down from the middle of her living room. Not because of vanity but looking at that everyday as you age is not a healthy reality.. depression is inevitable.. I’m a realist ... those days are nice to visit but you don’t want to live in it, surround yourself in days gone by..sorry if you disagree but it’s brutal!

[@RockNRoller66]

@@deannaporter783 I'll toast to that, too many times if I start trying to relive my old band days or chasing my non-existent rock and roll future at 56, I'll tell you that much. I'm accepting it all now, finally, and drinking considerably less now, to say the least!

[@eddiebranden1]

A lot of them are back touring and make music.

[@colleenconlon2917]

I just saw Faster Pussycat @ 3 months ago & I had to look up several pics to see if the Taime I just saw live was the same Taime from the 80’s. It’s still the same Taime but he was unrecognizable to me. They still kick ass - don’t sleep on this show if they come to you’re town!

[@scottcummins2477]

LOL, My first concert was UFO Hara Arena Dayton Ohio Dec 1 1978. I will never forget it ..Where has the time gone??

[@mattpatterson6219]

Oh god you let me escape back to the 80s when I was a kid, thank you, it was a great time to be a teen ager

[@michaelchristopher3600]

Metal is at it's best when it's ignored by the mainstream.

[@pleasuretokill]

Where were they then! This is 21 years ago...

[@user-ux1vj9vx7s]

So, you do understand how time works? Good.

[@edwardbliss8931]

Who else wants to watch this, but can't remember if they saw this before?

[@scottashe984]

I just watched it and have already forgotten it.

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

I was 18 in 1980 , this was my time and my music and I loved and was born in so cal.

[@johnjohnon8767]

I've seen quite a few of these bands just this past year. Iron maiden, Wasp. Jackle, the Cult , L A Guns , Faster Pussycat, Tom Kiefer, Tesla, off the top of my head. Had a great time, every time. Kinda funny being in a venue with people my age feeling young again. And Skid Row is playing again this year.

[@RockCity1111]

I'm a trained Professional!! Jani Lane. Rip 🙏

[@AndiSplatterpunk]

This was back when rock was fun!

[@chefkenburnem211]

Anthrax" im the man" beastie boys license to ill were my first 2 cassette tapes i think i was 9 and i played them till the tape wore out. 30 yrs later i still love to listen to them.

[@judsonsnell]

You know it's retro when they provide a mailing address AND an AOL handle to get a hold...

[@MrMatthiasSchneider]

14:03 - Segment about Stryper, video by Britny Fox

[@evaristo_1272]

This was my first favorite band. I remember my mom and dad buying me the cassette in 86.

[@roosternm6830]

I moved to a tiny little town in Southern New Mexico in 1985. Before that I lived in San Diego CA. Right next door to the epicenter of all these bands. Oh YES I was a fan. Hige Metal Head. I used to get asked why I would ever go from paradise to the high desert. In California I was one in millions. In New Mexico I stood out and the whole Metal scene meant more. I tried moving back to San Diego, but it jist wasnt for me anymore. Still rocking the high desert. Still a guitarist and Still a Metal Head. Greatest decade of my life.

[@Tapanga620]

I remember watching this on tv thanks for the upload!

[@paulmurphy5244]

That's not a Chia-pet......That was a meatloaf! 😝

[@christhayil8354]

Why is Anthrax on a 'where are they now' show? They still sell out venues and 1000+ seat shows, and their last 2-3 albums were in the Billboard top 20. Everyone knows Anthrax never went anywhere, and their 40th Anniversary tribute was a large success!

[@StanHowser]

This was filmed in the late 2000s. Anthrax was playing a bar and grills at that point, so they fit this theme of this show.

[@christhayil8354]

@@StanHowser they weren't playing club gigs....in 2009-10 they coheadlined Big 4 with Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer; and that drew close to 100,000

[@swampdonkey4919]

Because they were no longer on MTV or the radio by then, that's why. In the early 2000s, Anthrax was considered a bad word, as 9/11 had just happened and there was a big scare about the anthrax virus being sent in the mail in powder form. The band temporarily had to change their name to Anthrax (The Band) because yes--they still had a fan base, and they wanted to appear more sensitive and respectful so they could keep their listeners.

[@StargazerAPW]

And that’s exactly where they are now…. 😛

[@howlinwulf]

Man I've played before 1000 plenty but I'm not famous so anthrax isn't all that bub

[@Nelsky777]

Actually grunge is in oblivion now. However, glam and heavy metal still are kicking ass and performing until today.

[@sdc6447]

I'd say both are in decline. Music and the business of music are SO much different now. Grunge had alot of key players die off. Kurt Cobain, obviously. Layne Staley. Chris Cornell. Andrew Wood earlier on in the movement. Now you have great bands like Foo Fighters and an older Pearl Jam puts out good music still. I don't really see where you think glam or metal is thriving? Maybe because that's your music of choice? Which is fine. I wouldn't say it's thriving by any stretch. I'm one of the people who liked both. I've seen Pearl Jam. Foo Fighters 4 times. Saw Soundgarden way, way, way back in the day because I'm old. Ha. Ha. Kinda old. I also saw Dokken and the Lynch Mob because I always liked George Lynch and appreciated his epic guitar playing. Saw great bands like Tesla. Queensryche. Even Megadeth because I appreciate Dave Mustaine.

[@Nelsky777]

@@sdc6447 I think based on observation bro. GnR when they put up a show it's still the same as the 80s I mean the magnitude of people watching despite Axle's diminishing vocal range still the crowd flocked. Same with Bon Jovi and EVH b4 he died. I mean in comparison there is a big difference maybe probably the content and the message of the song. 80 Glam rock is more of good time while grunge is morbid. But both has it's share of success but as to the magnitude of people patronizing 80s glam and metal is must greater than 90s grunge. Just an opinion bro. Nothing to argue about. Thanks also for commenting.

[@WhatsCookingTime]

@@Nelsky777 exactly grunge does not track the same as metal from the '80s for the early 90s. I mean if you forgot to mention Def Leppard they still sell out across the world poison does motley Crue . And they have new fans too. They're not one of us people love the music if all of a sudden the radio stations that are playing it again it would be huge there's not a lot of new metal bands getting play in the US I mean look at some of the great ones from over in Europe crazy lixx for example. If this was 1987 they would be in the top 10 bands.

[@bb-gc2tx]

@@Nelsky777 true you can party have good time at any age its kind of dumb go to a concert in your 40s wearing a loser shirt and saying you hate your parents lol

[@davecassady7468]

Stevie Rachelle seems like a well grounded dude.

[@bwassinger21]

Dear Amy, if they were truly our all time fave band, you'd know where they are now.

[@paulwarren6062]

Awesome dude... another good one. Thanks!

[@natejamesr1081]

Nickleback should thank Saigon Kick. Photograph sounds very similar to Love Is On the Way!

[@natejamesr1081]

@mikedavis8008 looks like I offended a nickleback fan. Either that, or he's completely deaf 😂

[@chrisjames8009]

​@mikedavis8008 You're not very intelligent, like most Nickleback fans!

[@danielhoward8354]

Wow thats cool as fuck of Howard having them together on the show. I never knew that story

[@ernestoramosgarcia7532]

The best music of the world lml 😈🤘😎🔥

[@rs8461]

So watching this in 2021 wondering where they are now?

[@husq48]

Well, Stryper, Yngwie and Anthrax are still recording and touring, not sure about the rest...

[@weebgrinder-AIArtistPro]

5 string guitar for rhythm. I like that and was thinking of removing my high E myself. Good documentary.

[@georgeevans506]

Bobbie Brown and Battle Dome?? HAHAHAHA The best show ever!! Never heard of it

[@howlinwulf]

And don't wanna lol

[@martinkuliza]

8:40 to 8:41 Love is on the way why does this sound so much like LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH 😁

[@howlinwulf]

Cause there's only so many chords and riffs. It DOES sound alike.

[@startervisions]

Thanks!!!

[@owenhill7486]

Super TransAtlantic Shuttlecock was a superb album. Vastly underrated

[@rickwashington3737]

This is very old news but good for its time period. Stryper has reformed since this video output.This message of mine is mid Jan 2022 and they're going pretty strong all this time later if the period listed in the topic.

[@DaveDowning]

Stryper still kicking ass

[@TormentNJ-BlastedNJ]

Too bad Anthrax never got to do that tour with Joey & John , would have been legendary 🤘🏻

[@Mike-oz5pp]

Ong Trixter was the Worst! My friends had tix to go see them & Kiss, I stayed home & threw a Keg party. Needless to say when they returned they all wished they'd stayed too 🤣

[@haywoodjablowme699]

People say that Nirvana and Grunge killed 80s metal, but I believe that bands like Trixter, Firehouse, Tuff, Pretty Boy Floyd and Ugly Kid Joe are the ones that really killed it. Just formulaic nonsense with long hair. It's too bad some good bands had to pay the price for record company greed.

[@mattmacarthur520]

@@haywoodjablowme699 firehouse is a good band man pretty heavy actually at times and great guitar work by Bill leverty .. try listening to more than 2 songs and maybe you’ll see what I mean

[@mattmacarthur520]

@@haywoodjablowme699 I ask agree the rest of them weren’t anything special and trixter was definitely hard to listen to with those lyrics 😂was never a fan of his voice either just wasn’t pleasant to listen to . Guitar work by Steve brown once again is the only thing saving it from being a complete abomination

[@jeremywanner4526]

Good call

[@jeffchilders236]

Growing up in the '80s I still have my long hair and I'm 53 now I don't think I could ever cut my hair

[@dragonflyflutterby2952]

You don’t have to cut your hair, you do what makes you happy. As long as it isn’t hurting you (or others) then you can do whatever you want. Be happy…

[@TheMeJustMe75]

Jason Beiler is an awesome guitar player. I had the album that had Love Is On The Way but the album, whole thing was awesome. I was introduced to the overdrive pedal by him. He had an article in one of the guitar magazines that was all about the use of the overdrive. He used the yellow pedal from DOD, I think.

[@kevrosas1]

Aired in 1999

[@ukrpgfan4029]

WTF is Anthrax doing on here, they've been here for 40 years....

[@warmonger8799]

Perfection =Heavy Metal 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@hankpikuni7024]

Belladonna guy for Anthrax looks like he isn't having fun like the rest.

[@georgeshaw8925]

21 shows in a 24 hour period, those shows were too short. I hope people didn’t have to pay to see that shit.

[@shandonsahm3343]

Remember hard rock?? Now it's called metal

[@stevencochran5301]

They're candid, now.

[@jackyl8259]

The best and only Anthrax cd I like is ''ARMED N DANGEROUS '' joeys vocals are awesome,it's raw and in ur face love it.

[@jlobiafra]

That was my first anthrax album. I bought it when I was 15 in 1985 on cassette because I read somewhere that they sounded like Metallica

[@JIF882]

There is no such cd

[@PaladinCecil]

For a long time, I enjoyed the hard rock of the '80s and still do. Even though the music is more important than image, I could understand the long hair being part of the appeal. The bands at the time looked cool that way, and the look was appealing for being different. It's unusual and depressing the amount of artists from these bands who ended up cutting their hair, and what's sad is, the bands after grunge rarely grew their hair out (Korn being a notable exception). And so many of the post-grunge, nu metal and emo groups, just weren't as good. It's not that every male rock artist has to have their hair long, but it would've been cool if a good number of them had chosen to. When I first saw the then-current clips of the bands in this episode, and seeing how many of them had cut their hair, it makes me glad that I chose to keep mine long (which I didn't grow out ironically until 1997). The look was so cool back then, and it would be nice if more guys had it today.

[@FreeMTrider]

Hair? I could care less.....and I did have long hair in the '80s, but not because of hair bands. Van Halen, Zeppelin, Pat Travers....and then Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer inspired us. They didn't use hair spray. Also, a lot of grunge bands had long hair too. Almost all of them. The glam bands like Poison, etc., just brought it to a weird poseur level. I could never get into that look, especially when that Girlschool band went all frilly. Terrible band anyway. I say grow your hair how you like or keep it short.

[@kommisar.]

Move on from those bands. Most are either done or put out far inferior music now. You have plenty of great modern metal bands with plenty of long hair. Check out Amon Amarth.

[@PaladinCecil]

@@kommisar. I don't solely listen to artists from the past. I have a wide range of rock acts from various eras, including the 2010s. Some of them being War of Ages, Mastodon, Killswitch Engage, August Burns Red and Demon Hunter. And I like some of the later music from the older names. While I'm often times more interested in the material they did in the past, I enjoyed the later work of bands like King Kobra, Night Ranger, L.A. Guns and Stryper.

[@RocknRollisDead1]

I think guys that still try to grow their hair out and look like they are from an 80's hair band is really washed up and sad looking.

[@kommisar.]

@@RocknRollisDead1 There's a big difference between trying to have an 80's long hairdo and just having long hair

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

My friend got a black eye with a thrown bible at a stryper concert lol.

[@mikebrink740]

Wait...did the singer of Saigon Kick say the they "end" of metal......Oh lawd.....

[@ENigma-um8zw]

Great VH1 golden era programming

[@seanpendergast628]

METAL!🤘🤘🤘

[@gregsimmons694]

Ratt n roll! Tesla! Stryper! And if you like it heavy MEGADETH weighs a ton! God bless all the rockers and savior JESUS keep us safe always!

[@JW-wn2oo]

Amen brother 👉

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

Why, of all places, did you have to drag American Jesus Lite into metal of all things?

[@gregsimmons694]

​@@randomhumanoidblob4506If it wasn't for God you and I couldn't be here to ratt n roll! God bless you fellow rocker! JESUS SAVES!

[@lizlocher3612]

They need to update this video to current times in 2022,!!! All I could think about was " where are they ,,30 years after this time period we are seeing,?!_Kudos for mentioning Faster Pussycat, who are one of my top 4 bands ever since 1967, when I was ,10 yrs old I still love them n they are still looking, sounding, n playing excellent!!!

[@richietaylor453]

? 1967 faster pussycat where not a band

[@Duck_Dodgers]

They weren't even born

[@pablons2061]

Hair Metal Best Bands Ever of ROCK!!!

[@DeadRingerMachine]

Faster Pussycat was badass.

[@jamesdelaney3797]

I f..king loved jackyl

[@King5150Ed]

I love how some of these lesser popular band members say oh I needed a break yeah I'm 54 years old been working my Knuckles to the Bone proudly and I've never said yeah I needed a break🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@ThatMetalInterviewPodcast]

Kool

[@fasterman3]

just saw one of my pictures on this

[@Soxruleyanksdrool]

I like how at the beginning they said 80s metal was one part hairspray and one part makeup. Then they show Anthrax, a band who used neither of these things back in the day.

[@howlinwulf]

And they had 145 fans

[@Soxruleyanksdrool]

@@howlinwulf You misspelled 145 million fans

[@WhatsCookingTime]

These are all second and third tier metal bands. This must have been a low budget version.

[@martinhonan9588]

Was thinking the same thing.

[@Poppaea-Sabina]

Scott finally waxed his eyebrows

[@bygsyxx4271]

...a year ago?... ...try 22 years ago....

[@raysullya.k.amassholehead817]

Where are they know - 25 year anniversary .....

[@stephenblake2196]

These bands and their artists experienced the world meeting people and wealth !! IT DOESN'T GET BETTER THAN THAT!! THE MONEY MADE IT BETTER?? IF THEIR BROKE NOW , THEY STILL HAVE THE MUSIC THEY CREATED?? BETTER TO BE A HAS BEEN THAN A NEVER WAS ?? SAD BUT TRUE !! SO I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL BAD FOR ANY OF THEM!!! I WOULD TRADE PLACES WITH ANY OF THEM???

[@foamrob6577]

Stryper is putting out music today that is better than their early stuff which is saying alot because I love the early stuff. Sweet and Fox are the best dual guitar players in metal

[@brandonwhitacre2500]

next to DeGarmo and Wilton

[@foamrob6577]

@@brandonwhitacre2500 Those guys are good but I think Fox/Sweet are better and still doing it today

[@brandonwhitacre2500]

I will agree, I saw them live on the thwtd tour, and they were like dropping a needle on the record, and Sweet's voice, well he's still got it, but yes I love their guitar harmonies, they are unique, just as unique as the vocal harmonies, I hope I get to catch them all these years later, I'm sure the differences will be slight if there are any.

[@foamrob6577]

@@brandonwhitacre2500 I just saw them live right before the pandemic. Sweet was sick and he apologized for not being able to sing as well but he was still good but musically they were great.

[@PaulEMoz]

@@foamrob6577 Check out a new/current Japanese female metal band called Lovebites, and be prepared to be amazed by their twin guitars (and everything else).

[@delanoarts3703]

I love stryper they were one of the first power metal bands and actually a lot heavier them there counterparts there guitar work was shredding and killer vocals there were a seriously talented band what people don't get about stryper is it's not like they were playing in the Christian music scene they were playing in the straight 80s metal scene with wasp and priest you have to be a great fucking band to get a 80s metal head to listen about Jesus I know I was one it was 10 times harder for them because of there Christian faith then it was for the other bands stryper was seriously good 👍 and I love the fact nothing made them give up on there faith

[@PaladinCecil]

I agree. Stryper had a great impact in their day, and although they weren't the first Christian metal act (Trouble were one name that pre-dated them), there were a ton of bands like them that came after, such as Barren Cross, Bride, Deliverance and Tourniquet to name a few. And all of those groups showed that Christian subject matter in music is not a silly thing and can be well-executed as much as any secular topic.

[@turtleneckferret]

You should learn when to use their, there, they're

[@shanewilson199]

I was in a pretty average band that supported stryper in Brisbane, Australia. I really liked stryper, a was relieved to find out they were really nice guys. They let us use their hospitality suite, talked to us… they also were great in concert. They sure wore a lot of make up though.

[@delanoarts3703]

That's awesome I would love to see them love playing a show with them would be super awesome

[@SwampDweller67]

@@turtleneckferret That was very helpful, thanks, dick.

[@wolfangel6988]

This def wasn't any part of the Metal I was in, especially the "Hair" era. I leaned toward Maiden, Ozzy, GNR, Crue, Priest ETC.🤪 Real men of metal🤘🤘

[@mazscsu]

Umm Crue? Men of metal?

[@wolfangel6988]

@@mazscsu compared to Poison, white lion n Winger..yesh...I'll add the let's meet in the middle w this one lol

[@j.bradleyheck1589]

You have a limited grasp of Rock !

[@howlinwulf]

@@mazscsu well you know,the music kicked ass but yeah a little sissyish.just talking bout crue. Ozzy was it.I have tickets for nov.15 Judas Priest and Queensryche.

[@beezysbeatz4924]

Ian St. Ian!!

[@beezysbeatz4924]

Lol DJ's never did and definitely never will say "Shuttlecock" at drive time or any other time. Even if radio was still THE thing.

[@theSword-]

Anthrax is 1 band I could never like, even after seeing them live.

[@wyldeyouth]

Dude. Don't judge a band cus of ONE show

[@theSword-]

@@wyldeyouth .....I also watched about a zillion video since the 80s, and it was always the same.

[@mazscsu]

I just like ONE song and maybe the album they made with that one singer Busch? Who had the more coarse voice.

[@kimmyfreak200]

me too

[@kevrosas1]

@@wyldeyouth even AFTER seeing them live. Read again.

[@BASHEM72]

Jackal is one crazy ass band.Halloween Knoxville TN electric ballroom. Never forget. Uhhhhhhi think it was 94……..?….?..?..

[@turtleneckferret]

I've seen lots of band at electric ballroom. Used to hang out at Long Branch saloon.

[@xx7secondsxx]

Bobbie Brown also dated one of the guy in Crüe.

[@user-ty2xv6xw8j]

Tommy Lee

[@scottgagnon9451]

Hair are the now 😀

[@bswihart1]

Saw Anthrax open for Iron maiden in the early 90s. Then Testament opened up for Iron maiden and both shows rocked!!

[@delanoarts3703]

Rock may be dead but is as big as its ever been cannibal corpse 2020 there album went to number 5 on the top 200 that's death metal people iron maiden number 1 in 23 countries number 3 in the states that is just fucking crazy maiden after 45 fucking years is still cool and goes number 1 metal will always thrive some place its the sound of freedom

[@zachary_attackery]

they're going to number 1 and only selling 10,000 records

[@delanoarts3703]

Charts are based on record sales stream time and downloads if they only sold 10k that means everyone behind them sold a lot less

[@dirtyfacegeorge9938]

@@zachary_attackery ha ha you don't know anything 🤡

[@TheRocketLombax]

think of it like this metal guys will actually buy your album on a LP or CD so that makes it chart

[@WhatsCookingTime]

It just sucks that it's not as mainstream anymore

[@pcno2832]

38:27 "near fatal car crash", "coma for a week" ... and yet the Jag came out of it in pretty good shape. I wonder if something came through the driver's window and hit him on the head. Anyway, glad to hear that he came out of it OK.

[@danielhoward8354]

lmaao "there is a chia pet in there"

[@danysharma4790]

Where is Vito bretta?😶

[@andrewdog-gonewaylon5915]

Was hoping to watch about Jani Land but yet you had the whole segment talking about Bobbi Brown?!

[@therealunclassified]

Anthrax also did a track with utfo. Believe it was prior to bring the noise .

[@JIF882]

No, they didn't

[@therealunclassified]

@JIF882 haha. Ok. I'd bet you your bank account but you wouldn't pay lol.

[@therealunclassified]

@JIF882 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6fCaat7g8iEgrc . I wish we were face to face cause I'd Definitely take all your money haha

[@JIF882]

@@therealunclassified Because it never happened

[@annabellelee7323]

Seriously where are they now? 2022

[@MetalPersonJ]

Joey doing press with Anthrax? What year was this?

[@kennyozz3814]

Anybody know when this was recorded/released? I'm thinking its like 1999.

[@kylemaddisson1131]

Bush over Belladonna.....big mistake!

[@Duck_Dodgers]

Like Joey could sing blown out voice always sounded weak but also anthrax came across as pussies

[@og-greenmachine8623]

Where were they “THEN”? Never heard of most of them...

[@tylerthompson1842]

Damn European fans ripped all Scott Ian’s hair out

[@bambusidu]

Where is the metal??

[@Despond]

"2 years later divorced" what a shock lol

[@thunderdeed1]

Not to speak ill of the dead but I knew that marriage was doomed from the start.

[@billbailey1511]

@19:14 Howard stern was in a Hair Metal band?

[@bryantrowan6799]

They should be way bigger than anybody but for some reason didn't get it

[@kommisar.]

Too bad they hardly featured any good bands....

[@turtleneckferret]

Probably because everyone knows where the good bands are

[@trendmassacre8423]

"Hardly" okay Nirvana Mark.

[@stevee231]

Now they're about to collect social security

[@josephtraficante4651]

Lillian Axe - Lobe an War

[@josephtraficante4651]

Love.....

[@kylesnyder6729]

Why l isn't John Longstreth or Spencer Prewitt on this list. 2 and 3 I respectably agree with.

[@chriskroll4166]

I am THE man 😂

[@Michael29577]

It is sad that this Where are they now is 20 plus yrs old LOL! So really where are they now? LOL!

[@bugsybielby]

yngwie malmsteen has let himself go

[@PaulEMoz]

He looks way better now than he did then.

[@danyluk1]

Never heard of any of these bands other than Anthrax

[@carljacobson7156]

Joey Belladonna looked either bored or pissed during the Anthrax segments - I guess it's uncomfortable to be sitting with the guys that kicked you out of your band

[@robertreed7963]

I don't think he is unhappy. He is just a more serious type who doesn't yuck it up on cue. The band are the little indians. Belladonna is the Chief.

[@Poppaea-Sabina]

Taime Downe is pronounced Tie me Down. Duh.