Where did it all go wrong for England vs. Italy? ‘Southgate MESSED THAT UP so badly!’ | ESPN FC

[@christopherkane370]

Parking the bus for 120 minutes is where it went wrong for England

[@clubgel]

Facts this is it. Trying not to lose rather then more risk for the win

[@delarae9464]

😂

[@laloponce7527]

it was their only option they tried to counter attack and it doesn't work against a team with a defensive wall. If England tried to go head to head, Italy would've scored 2 or 3, England doesn't have the power to hold Italy. It never did. Englad wasn't horrible, they were just not good enough from the start.

[@phillipmendes6907]

Italy invented that style of football. Your not going to beat them with it.

[@adewey33]

Actually they parked the bus AFTER they scored the first goal.

[@cjk9763]

Bringing in Rashford and Sancho cold 1 minute before penalties, and allowing them to shoot.

[@Amzyy]

He needs to go when that happened I knew Italy would win the shootout

[@shantanurawat1238]

Don't you think they would have been training before coming out in 120th minute?

[@brianrossiter2547]

@UEFA Vlogs Is this a joke? What utter horsesh*t

[@pahakuutti]

Think GS actually made the big mistakes before the tourney started: Rashford wasn't fit to be included in the team, or else he would have played more minutes. GS then had to play catch up with fewer options and fewer subs being used in games, which hurts late on in a tourney.

[@OM4Rx]

Letting SAKA shoot why TF didn’t anyone else step up to the plate fucks sake

[@pixelwolfeman1928]

The irony of it all is, after decades of disappointment, England finally had the technically proficient players they had been crying out for that could rival those in the rest of Europe, they just didn't use them 🙃😂

[@fugitivemoses7515]

That's just beef talk bro. England are stacked with technically gifted attackers. That's a fact.

[@dave6148]

Absolutely criminal that Southgate didn't use the real talent at his disposal. I just cannot see how he can justify his conservative team selection. In spite of this we did well- because overall we had such a strong team. The weak point was Southgate. Yes Kane eventually did score but complete waster for first 3 3/4 games!

[@heppolo]

@@fugitivemoses7515 technically gifted like Kane who couldn't score a sitter v. Croatia in 2018 or Sterling with that miss v. Lyon? The attacking/midfield is not even close to the level of Beckham and Gerrard or prime Owen.

[@mourice1669]

England is overated' imagine that was England at its best but still Italy a team that never qualified for world cup three years ago outplayed them in possession. Imagine them meeting the German 2014 form. I don't know what England need to do but honestly if this was their best chance I don't think they will get any major cup in the near future

[@mourice1669]

If Italy managed to regroup within 3 years and win the Euros then It's just very sad for England .

[@ManunitedJA]

Chiesa was killing us for about 75 minutes.

[@chrisburnby62]

Never likely to score, just running across and back to no effect.

[@RobinHood20001]

@@chrisburnby62 not very bright are we chris

[@LC-lz6rw]

@@chrisburnby62 Genius comment ... 🤦

[@chrisburnby62]

@@RobinHood20001 He was running around like a headless chicken! In fact the from 3 disappeared they were so GOOO! Even I would ha be been better than Chiesa last Sunday.!

[@jaylucas8352]

These are quality comments my lad

[@PeeGeeThirteen]

Mancini made major changes at Half-Time to adapt to England's Defence. Southgate didn't change a thing.

[@curious1147]

We caught them out with a 3-4-3 but once they adjusted, Southgate had no plan b & never has.

[@ezeee595]

All English managers are clueless!!!

[@ask7822]

Great mistake because he chose Saka not Sancho, jack, foden, and Rashford , what a foolish Coach

[@pedropierre9594]

Sterling looked for a pen the whole game, and didnt step up to score one

[@linkbombchu168]

Facts

[@crucialgold3059]

This comment is sooooo goated

[@_alif_6734]

Sterling is a good at getting penalty, not at scoring

[@christianopulinaldo8319]

Diver sterling

[@mycolorgeat2370]

Pretty weak from the older experienced players to let a 18-19 year old player to take a decisive penalty like this

[@crucialgold3059]

He has so many attacking options and yet he plays such a defensive strategy, and yes I haven’t had the confidence to put in sancho or rashford, but go in for 10 seconds then score a crucial penalty lmaoooo so bad

[@generalwizdom2355]

Exactly what I said.... If, in THAT moment, you are depending on Rashford and Sancho, then you are saying you should have played them this whole time. What a moron.

[@Amzyy]

Man was playing park the bus, Kane as a CDM and Saka and Grealish as wing backs dead boring manager

[@ElPhenomenon]

What doesn’t make sense is , he was using the excuse sancho was to young and inexperienced as to why he wasn’t playing , but yet somehow he’s experienced enough to take a penalty in final . But can’t get minutes

[@paulhirst7602]

To wait until extra time before bringing on Grealish was totally unforgivable. Sterling's done well but was having zero effect in the game as was Mason Mount. Delaying neccesery substitutions was stupid.

[@ebayer4life980]

I love it

[@Nairam10]

German here: Southgate is a bad coach - not just because he allowed Rashford and Sancho to shoot. He proved so many times that he isn't capable to manage a quad properly. You guys got the most exciting attacking talents in the world and play with SEVEN defenders at the back. A lot of England fans need to learn decency. You made it really easy for everyone else to hate you. Stop booing other countries national anthem! Stop bein racist to your own players! And stop hyping your on squad to ridiculous heights! And please, please, please... stop that "it's coming home" nonsense. Furthermore you need to reevaluate the quality of your CB's, CM's and Keeper. Especially Stones, Maguire and Pickford.

[@Gooniessss]

I get your point and some are valid. Booing the national anthems used to be the norm. Not just in England but throughout europe. Not that I advocate it and times have thankfully changed. Southgate has said most of the racist abuse came from abroad. Lets not pretend this abuse was just from England. I think it's a bit rich a German lecturing England on us being hated and our behaviour.

[@anthonygumbs4738]

Great points fella, I agree with all your points lol. I'm embarrassed for how our fans treated the Danish supporters in the stadium the stories of young children being abused is shocking and yes booing national anthems is disgraceful. Football is coming home should be binned until we at least win a tournament. It's weird I'm English with a European mentality. Last night was embarrassing on so many levels lol. Take care. ps love the Bundesliga and your national team. I would hope we learn the art of humility but I doubt it. From a Brexit Remainer.

[@bri827]

I’m English and Italian so I wasn’t feeling too strong about who won but when the English kept saying it’s coming home I had a feeling Italy would win. It would’ve been great for the people there if England won but I wasn’t surprised that they choked.

[@colmmcdonnell6256]

@@anthonygumbs4738 nice to hear a decent English supporter for a change .and I’m sure most brexit supporters are the ones that are letting your country down .racist and disrespectful to anthems of other countries is the reason most of Europe supported Italy in the final

[@Nairam10]

@@colmmcdonnell6256 I don't want to get to political nor controversial, but honestly, I think it was a great move to leave the EU. Great for Britain from a monetary perspective at least.

[@griff9899]

England trying to hold onto lead when Italy were pushing for 80 mins. It was inevitable!

[@BaronVonGreenback1882]

England didn't have a single shot on target after scoring in the second minute,

[@Nigel-Webb]

Difficult to do that from inside your own half 🤦‍♂️

[@samdefore2692]

They’re counting on Sterling dives and get them a penalty kick

[@SS-po6yd]

First 20 minutes, England looked like United under Sir Alex, rest of the game they looked like United under Moyes.

[@jasonly1003]

which is equivalent to United under Ole.

[@michaelemekeuyaebo9985]

@@jasonly1003 😂😂😂

[@ezeee595]

True colours eventually come out!!! An average lucky team who blew it all

[@safcjoe7062]

@@ezeee595 it was gonna be tough with the lack of experience and intelligence(no disrespect to rice or Philips)compared to jorginho and veratti. We had a plan and it worked for a while but we sat deeper and deeper and it came back to bite us. The subs should've been made earlier.

[@paradoxmartin1283]

He is too defensive minded with a squad blessed with so much attacking quality

[@nazeemameen1253]

The same with Portugal

[@ronbonora7872]

you need a balanced attack and defense! LOL

[@josesaenz5403]

@@ronbonora7872 yes you’re right but his approach is too defensive

[@sergeshakhov8582]

that's what i was talking about like 4 games ago. Good point. I believe 4 -3 - 3 and England would play way better, and there would've been no nood for parking bus as far as England has very good defence.

[@gr637]

Italian defenders eat English players for breakfast with cappuccino

[@emma1674]

This game was almost a cut and paste of their 2018 loss to Croatia. Early England goal, park the bus, the superior team in the end found a way. Adriatic power!!!

[@brankobelfranin8815]

I was going to say basically the same thing

[@johnuk6924]

it's so annoying though because i think England could of caused them problems if they bought on the creative substitutions earlier when he could see that Italy were having more and more posession. When he did bring on the subs after Italy scored we started to play better and could of nearly scored ourselves a few times. I'm afraid Gareth's tactics caused our own problems. In anycase the game still ended up a draw after extra time and we lost on penalties so it was a close game.

[@dangiambrone7350]

@@johnuk6924 True, that's the approach that I would have taken, having said that, had he opted for a more attacking approach it could have turned into a repeat of the Belgium - Italy game, where the Belgians natural adventurous tendencies provided Italy (especially Chiesa, Insigne and Barella) with more space to exploit. By the time Southgate brought on those more attack-minded subs, Italy's best players; Verratti, Barella, Insigne, Chiesa were no longer on the pitch and Italy looked like their two previous forays into extra time was starting to catch up with them.

[@johnuk6924]

@@dangiambrone7350 look at Italy's goal, it could of been disallowed as Chiellini pulled down john stones by pulling his shirt. I didn't see that until now.

[@emma1674]

@@johnuk6924 shirt pulling always happens in set pieces. no one cares and its never disallowed.

[@mira_lovefood8355]

The moment he put 3 kids ahead more senior players in the shoot out.

[@siddharthsundar]

I think we need to take a moment and appreciate Italy's resilience during the game. They fought hard after conceding an early goal and went past an English defence which had conceded just once in the whole tournament. And even during the penalties they were the ones who were initially behind yet they were the ones to win it in the end. England must have sealed the game when they had the lead in the penalties.

[@donatoiacovino6968]

Well said

[@quelbravoragazzo2044]

We are masters of this sport, with 4 world cup and 2 Europea Cup. You can't learn this in one day. But england is a beautiful team and soon they can take a trophie. I'm sure about this

[@danlysonsohtun6456]

@@quelbravoragazzo2044 nahh they are overrated team where their fanbase and pundits thinks they are above all😂😂

[@quelbravoragazzo2044]

@@danlysonsohtun6456 Maybe you are right. They will never win 🤣

[@danlysonsohtun6456]

@@quelbravoragazzo2044 Let them have their big mouth 😂

[@thebenevolent8405]

He’s a coward coach. He’s fearful! Have so much attack power & choose to be conservative. Afraid to press. Southgate is not the man for the job.

[@omairsh8]

Give him a 10 year extension

[@clubgel]

Facts. Could have gone for Italy with saka and grealish from start and if lost, lost going for it, not in fearful way

[@gabix7488]

I am not English but he is actually the coach that put England back in the semifinals at the WC ( last time they reached 1990) and into a final in the Euros.. Crap....2-0 against Germany ? Its probably lack of experience of the players against strong teams. Give them 2 more years

[@colinarcher2817]

Give bielsa the job,with this squad they have an excellent chance in Qatar and it they failed it would be wonderful and exciting football to watch

[@arsenalmanic]

Fact

[@ojogbaneamedu2501]

Let’s be honest, England didn’t deserve to be in this final. Spain, Belgium, Portugal and co would have knocked them out if they’d been on the other side. They were lucky, scored a quick goal at the start of this game and held. Italy vs Spain was the proper final of this tournament.

[@salmaccarrone2401]

Should've been Italy and Denmark. How could the ref not see that it was a dive by Sterling. Horrible pitiful call

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Sam Allardyce was the best manager England ever had, he left with a 100 per cent winning history.

[@gujh03]

but still couldnt win a trophy

[@Enzoblueblood]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jaylucas8352]

😹😹

[@safcjoe7062]

@@gujh03 I feel big Sam would've been out of his depth in big tournaments.

[@g30rg3-c5]

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" - Tyson 🇮🇹🙌

[@captain2ahab]

This is brilliant !

[@edigabrieli7864]

Maybe England should fire Southgate and hire Mancini not a bad idea after his football masterclass.

[@PeteAnconaLax21]

It went wrong when they thought they could hold onto that 1 goal lead by parking the bus. This isn’t fifa 17 innit☕️

[@chrisburnby62]

Very lucky goal you must admit.! Italy parked the bus in the First half.

[@RobinHood20001]

@@chrisburnby62 italy parked the bus 😆 good luck in 55 years

[@chrisburnby62]

@@RobinHood20001 Luca I’m a neutral looking at that tournament and that is the way I saw it. Lucky goal, the ball could have gone anywhere , just the same as penalties.

[@omarbiro4398]

After their first goal they tried to play "italian catenaccio" against...well, the experts of italian Catenaccio: *Italy* !

[@TMZahida226]

Yeah but THIS version of Italy seems to have left catenaccio behind. This was the most attack minded Italian team I have ever seen. I think that, in part, is why they won it all.

[@omarbiro4398]

@@TMZahida226 exactly I wanted to write that aswell but was too lazy

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

A very poor version of catenaccio too. At least Italy can defend with style.

[@George-bi8sj]

Italy played more of a Premier League style, which was a bit ironic.

[@stevencooke6451]

And as they said, they had no plan to escape their own eighteen. When Italy historically does that they sucker punch you.

[@fraz6354]

Thats how he was against Croatia in the world cup, he just stands there watching the team getting dominated, does nothing, and waits for the inevitable to happen.

[@arsenalmanic]

😂

[@workinginthewell3498]

To be fair, England just doesn't have good enough midfielders to go against Croatian or Italian midfield. I agree that parking the bus at home in EURO final is shameful tho

[@lidija2255]

True

[@bobbyt8472]

He's an idiot. Sancho, Grealish, Foden, Henderson all on the bench. Sterling starting when Foden has displaced him in the city team? Should of been 4-5-1. James, Stones, Maguire, Shaw > Henderson, Mount, Foden, Sancho, Grealish > Kane. We could easily dominate possession and score goals for fun with this team. Southgate's idea of football is 9 men defending and give sterling the ball and let him run and dive for penalties or just give it to Kane and hope he does something special. Retarded manager, no wonder he missed his penalty is 1996 hes fkin clueless

[@jakewilkinson520]

@@bobbyt8472 Totally agree. It's actually a joke. His team selection is just shambles he has no idea in that sense

[@starpool1]

It has been such a shock to see England trying a catenaccio. Not England style of play. 6 subs, only one during 90mn a game after you had 120mn the game before.

[@scottyk5376]

Grealish should have come in after the equalizer…. Nuff said…

[@hugomota3696]

That would just be the best tactical fit for the Italians win the game earlier.

[@tonynogueira7399]

And do you think Englang would have won. He came on and did nothing.

[@scottyk5376]

Tony…. His tourney goal assists and playmaking speaks for itself. Solid god-like goalkeeping won it for Italy. England played reactionary football out of fear. It doesn’t much matter to me as I was on the Belgian train til it stopped.

[@tonynogueira7399]

@@scottyk5376 sorry but England are chockers.

[@scottyk5376]

Couldn’t agree more…. Didn’t say they weren’t. Easy for me to make the call of would’ve could’ve should’ve on a Monday. If it were me on the pitch. I would’ve subbed in the talent I needed after the equalizer. England had the better shooters…. Italy had the better Goalie.

[@ethandavis961]

Am I literally the only person who can't get past Sterling not taking a penalty?!?! The guy who is "world class" apparently

[@ElPhenomenon]

He sucks at pens , I can’t even blame saka, I don’t think he’s ever taken one and it looked like he never took one ,

[@ethandavis961]

@@ElPhenomenon idc if you're an experienced player and one of the best on the team you gotta grab the ball and not let someone whose never been in match of this magnitude take it.

[@TrucNguyen-ph1nc]

lol world class, yea he isn't but he has missed like his last 3 for man City. He isn't a good penalty taker but yea I do think with his seniority, he would want to take one over the youngsters

[@ethandavis961]

@@TrucNguyen-ph1nc trust me I don't think he is world class either. But yeah still even if he misses and they lose he should have that burden over saka imo...

[@Greywolfgolaso]

@@ethandavis961 Facts. Its gonna haunt him for a while now smh

[@reecealiyar8783]

At the end of the day England only made it so far in the World Cup and Euro’s because of the easy and lucky runs they had. Southgate out, his too defensive. All of the quality attackers that England has, how can Sancho be on the bench? After Harry Kane he has the most goal involvements. England played way too safe and scared in the final. They decided to defend about 25 mins in.

[@maldini3184]

Nothing wrong with being a defensive coach. Its how you adopt to the situation. Italy suffered against Spain playing defensively for almost the whole match. England can't control a football game. They need better midfielders.

[@mark-kq7rc]

@@maldini3184 100 and million prosent even mourinho was good at counterattacks or simiones atletico they look strong and fast and knows how to press, englands worst players are RICE and phillips,

[@deo2033]

Lol based on results not your assumptions Southgate is the best England coach after Ramsey! Your problem is that English media make England team a very big team in your mind! This is why you never win any tournament!

[@vinman3057]

@@deo2033 stick to cricket

[@deo2033]

@@vinman3057 sorry but cricket is played in England, New Zealand, India, Australia, Pakistan😂 so I think you should stick to cricket and don’t talk about football 😂 I love how you struggle on winning a cup for many years! 😂

[@PerformanceArt19]

I’m not sure how you a put a 19 year old in the 5th spot ????? I mean considering what the coach went through it was a bone head decision.

[@ItsYuhBoyyyy]

@setthealarm stfu

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

Forgetting that the Italian keeper is only 22.....

[@emericgoat6477]

but mbappe automatically gets overrated remarks cuz he missed,u fans are weird

[@EpithetMusicTV]

it’s not that he’s 19, it’s that he’s Saka. 19 year old R9 or Messi on the other hand would be a different story irrespective of age. no disrespect to Saka, he’s done a good job but i would’ve had grealish, henderson and walker all taking a pen ahead of him. that being said mourinho lost a shoot out with r7 kaka and ramos missing the first 3 pens so ultimately anyone can miss even the best of the best.

[@Greywolfgolaso]

@@signoresantinoburnett1169 But at that moment, Donnarumma wasn't under pressure. If Saka missed, it's game over and that thought was probably what made him miss. Plus England is at home and has a bunch of expectant, obnoxious fans ready to verbally abuse the kid if he missed.

[@AlexBrovo]

“I forget now what my point was” Sums this video up.

[@vladescu3g]

he made his point by listing what teams England beat to get to the final and semifinal of international tournaments, and they didnt beat one good team. so they were exposed soon as they meet one. that was the point he didnt had to clear it more.

[@MrKaravaj]

Italy were better, even if we exclude penalty shootouts, if being honest

[@martynodonnell8467]

Something which doesn’t seem to get spoken about is. England had “home advantage”, all through the tournament. They played most of their games at Wembley. Where as the other countries in the tournament had to travel much more often. No other county played more than 3 games at their home ground. England played their last 16 game at Wembley, the semi final and final. The final and semi final were home games. Pundits and fans talk about “the 12th man”, it was an unfair advantage. They weren’t hosting the tournament, so why did they get to play so many games at home. It’s a point which doesn’t seem to get brought up.

[@martynodonnell8467]

@Scott Lachance I don’t understand how England managed to get so many games with home advantage during the tournament. I’ve tried bringing this same point up with England fans only to be shot down. However if it was any other team, but England, it would have been brought up. Also as far as the penalty goes. What happened to VAR? The ref pointed to the spot as soon as the player went down. It wasn’t a penalty. Surely VAR should have been used, especially given the circumstances. As soon as it was noticed a laser was being used to shine in the keepers eyes. They should have also been made to take the penalty again or void the penalty. Again this would have been made an issue if it was the England goal keeper, that had a laser shone in his eye. Sorry to say but I don’t think England would stand much chance in another tournament. Due to how biased Euro 2020 was towards England winning it. Let’s face it it wouldn’t be the first time a tournament or match has been fixed in one way or another.

[@carlob517]

Correct , the time Italy had possession of the ball tells you that it was close to 60% -40%

[@ttangerine485]

@@carlob517 no more like 70%-30%

[@gammergq9741]

They were in the tournament but not in the match they looked clueless in the first half, England let them off the hook.

[@mr_786_xcx2]

England are a one dimensional footballing side. They played great in the first half where they overran Italy but England in the second half couldn't touch the ball, Italy kept control and posession. Sterling spent more time on the floor and Kane looked lost. We rely heavily on these players but they went AWOL. Southgate was clueless and his substitutions were far too late not allowing the players to gel into the game, and as for the penalties let's not even go there.

[@85Sudi]

Italy were overrun for about the first 20 minutes only man.

[@pavansingh4516]

Wrong, sterling was their mvp of the tournament, Kane had no service but was brilliant the few times he even had the ball….it was the managers fault with his negative tactics and defensive football.

[@IbrahimAhmed-cz6om]

@@85Sudi exactly only the first 20 mins ....the last 15mins before first half Italy started dominating the game

[@wadelowther2993]

@@pavansingh4516 Agreed. Kane's record proves him to be a world class goalscorer. That means if he has just 1 shot in 90 minutes he isn't getting any service. England's forwards are as good as any but the defensive minded approach of Southgate was why England didn't win. The first half was excellent, but backing off and defending on your 18 yard box against a team with Chiesa in it as they did was stupid. The pressure they invited by defending deep was massive and was only going to produce an equaliser. The attacking talent in England's ranks under a coach like Pep Gaurdiola would be a joy to watch, and it would win things. Southgate isn't the solution, he's the problem.

[@junglisticman3525]

Moynur Rahman how can u say that when your team is pakistan or india lmfao probably the worst teams in the history of football hahahahahaha

[@glynquigley7278]

I totally agree with you guys. This defeat was wholly on Southgate. Forget missed penalties, 19 & 20 year olds taking penalties this was all on Southgate's tactical cowardice .

[@richardmacey3619]

Glyn Quigley, Southgate put virtue signalling using three over awed young black players against a top keeper, above winning the tournament. His plan was huge praise from the woke establishment including liberal media, followed by a knighthood. Sadly it backfired badly. Come the World Cup it’s going to be a repeat all over again.

[@jlee4039]

Almost 24 hours later and I’m still furious with Southgate. What really boggles the mind is that he personally knows how a missed PK can ruin a man’s life, and he turns around and places this millstone around a child’s neck??? What kind of a monster does that???

[@paulll47]

@Gabriela Gomes This is getting ridicoulous, the English sacrificed effectiveness for political correctness, I really hope Italy doesn't go the same road as you guys, we already had a few noisy leftists wining about the team not having enough rappresentation.

[@ADAMCODYMUSICPROJECT]

Southgate played that like a Fifa game. .."Rashford and Sancho have higher penalty stat, I'll throw em in there!"

[@gabriel27010]

Forget about "fans" and "home"..It was a good game. I feel bad for all the true english football fans (not the average, ignorant ones) that were respectful and not arrogant..and kids too..but England has a strong team and solid future Love from Italy 🇮🇹

[@shreddedguy679]

thanks bro, Italy deserved champions

[@rosefalguni7572]

Thank you!

[@Jamie-kf2vf]

Italy deserved it in the end. Congratulations! I love Italy and their culture. England just parked the bus and didn't go forward. They were happy to defend which was very sad to watch, and especially in a final.

[@krios1545]

I'm very happy that juls made a good point that they haven't played world class teams enough to beat world class teams in these type of games

[@JAC315]

Okay but still if we definitely should have won this game horrible managing

[@krios1545]

@@JAC315 how much did you have to drink at the pub while watching the game?

[@ALEXISGVRCIA]

@@krios1545 he is delusional clearly lol

[@jaylucas8352]

Even in the WC they beat Tunisia and Sweden and Colombia. Lost to Belgium , and knocked out by Croatia.

[@jaylucas8352]

Lost to Belgium twice in WC. Italy isn’t Tunisia or Sweden lol. Silly to think they’d win

[@mystikkrap]

These guys are so spot on. If England want to win something in the future or even attempt to be the best version of themselves then they have to get a better manager in charge who can truly play to the player's strengths. Southgate has taken this team as far as he could, the next step in football evolution for this national team has to come from someone else.

[@colinarcher2817]

Who dares wins ,a quote by the greatest manager the footballing World has ever seen,MIKE BASSETT

[@GR1ZZLEDSTYKA]

Southgate should step down and take his talents to club level. allow a coach that will utilize the talents that the english team does in fact have.

[@natjd24]

Southgate will make u all eat your words when he learns from the mistakes he made im the final and wins a tournament with england hes the ONLY man for the job he made a bad choice doesnt make him a bad manager

[@mystikkrap]

@@natjd24 how exactly? You really expect to be part of an easy bracket for the third straight time? You expect teams like France, Germany, Brazil and maybe even Argentina not to get their sh*t together? This was the best possible time to win it all the factors were in England's favor and still they cocked it up! He's a decent national team manager has taken this team forward to quite an extent, but if your teams are not able to control good parts of the game against the best teams then the odds are always going to be stacked against them. God, imagine having talents like Grealish and Sancho on the bench most countries would kill to have that.

[@colinarcher2817]

Mike bassett

[@victorarutyunov4674]

England win three games in the knockout stages, including overcoming the Germany hoodoo: "Southgate has got everything spot one, he is a national hero, he'll bring it home!" England lose their first final in 55 years on penalties: "Southgate messed it all up! He is way out of his depth! Southgate out!" I will never understand England fans. PS: Sure, Southgate made a few mistakes in the final, such as choosing the penalty takers himself and allowing his team to surrender control of the midfield in the second half. But you cannot admire him as a national hero and 140 minutes later see him as public enemy number one.

[@mojave5664]

You’re 100% right, I honestly think that the pressure put on Southgate and the rest of the English team by the English fans and media led to them just being more terrified of losing than having a desire to win

[@victorarutyunov4674]

@@mojave5664 Exactly. The only comparable amount of pressure, hype and relentless scrutiny of a national team I've seen is in Spain, but even so it's not as severe as in England.

[@jammin1881]

Only the finals. The first two minutes saw a goal and an amazing play. You don’t just shell up and spend 80+ minutes doing nothing but defensive plays. Push while they are hurting from the first goal. Play aggressive and make them pay again. We had no answers and it just went from stale to bad. Then the inevitable….. equalizers and lost faith.

[@jrfstudio]

Nobody is talking about that the only reason why England was in the final was because a generous penalty that got against Denmark. They were a lesser side than Denmark. They were lucky to score in the first two minutes. Eventually, the better team won. Very simple.

[@crazysteve9390]

Why must it be that everything went wrong for England? They played well. Had a great tournament. And got beaten, barely, by a team that was 7-0-0 in the tournament while outscoring opponents 13-4. Better side on the day won. Hats off to Italy. That’s it. It smacks of arrogance to suggest that England lost because of all this stuff that supposedly went wrong.

[@martinpowell5769]

Italy definitely played better, the same can be said of England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 their worst performance since the Scotland game

[@stevenkaye7096]

Italy were there for taking but England played with 7 defenders . If Rashford, Sancho and Saka had come on for the 2nd half at the start Kane would get the support he needed . Kane with Rashford could work like it does with Son .

[@slimphotog]

Agreed. All the finger-pointing at the English coach, the players who missed PKs, etc., depreciates the accomplishments of Italy. And they didn't even lose the game. The game was a tie; they lost the penalty kicks. When will people give credit to the Italian goalkeeper for that?

[@afrosamuraiwarrior]

England team have a mindset that says we should win the trophy. Without that theres no pride coming from their own nation

[@smallarmskepa4390]

You really don’t see what’s wrong with letting the opposition have 65 percent possession and being outshot 14-3? You don’t see what’s wrong with a nation that’s record in penalty kicks is 2-7 playing and sitting back for pens? When they have some of the most creative players in their side all on the bench?

[@underwaterlevelz1947]

Southgate has coached England to play the ugliest football in all of Europe. Dull clogging midfield play and box-diving

[@rizzorizzo2311]

You think the coach is the problem with Raheem Sugar Sprints Sterling? He’s a diving scumbag the coach is irrelevant.

[@mistergray9664]

@@rizzorizzo2311 Southgate chose to play Sterling over the other attacking talent he had match in and match out.

[@ArthurKnight1899]

Have you seen Portugal?? LMAO their coach is worst given the quality they got!

[@n.s.5278]

@@ArthurKnight1899 sure but surely it a competition to be the best, not the worst. And Southgate had no creative opposition in the media. Free ride.

[@Youtubechannel-po8cz]

He’s out of his depth, simple as that.

[@CaribSurfKing1]

Yes, England have talent for the first time is decades, yet their coach if defensive minded. Southgate will assume conceding only 2 goals that he did a good job. Unfortunately, they barely scored any! 2 shots on target in 120 mins is awful! Not once did they break, not once!

[@joesantana6429]

They had the easiest route to the final tbh , they should’ve swept this tourney with that talent

[@colinarcher2817]

And no excuses,he certainly had the talent to bag the game in the first half.really feel for the supporters.

[@Inglese001]

@CaribSurfKing1 wouldn't say that England have talent for the first time in decades. Sven's side of Beckham, Scholes, Steven Gerrard, Michael Owen, Frank Lampard, Ferdinand, John Terry etc was probably better than this current side.

[@lilleye1]

Not a good job, so Mancini did a good job just because his team scored one more penalty in the shootout? FML!

[@garywhite7886]

@@Inglese001 Way better , its all just propaganda for the cause .

[@ljacobs357]

This was their big opportunity. Weak group, all but one game at Wembley, favorable penalty call against Denmark, COVID keeping opposing fans away. They will never again have the same set of circumstances. Boring team to watch, and the ref was not going to give diver Sterling any calls.

[@oo-hk6zd]

Thank you!!! 100%

[@brankobelfranin8815]

Why do you English people always come up wit this type of arrogant comments? Weak group mmmm you barely beat Croatia and Czech Republic, Denmark should have beaten you sure weak group. Rememnber qualifiers for Euro 2008 at Wembley, and semis WC 2018 who beat you then?

[@ondrej1893]

@@brankobelfranin8815 England also lost 2:1 to Czech Republic in 2019 in Prague qualifier😀 were leading from penalty on Sterling but got outplayed in the end.

[@ezeee595]

@@brankobelfranin8815 England is a nation of wankers when it comes to football…not wining anything is a massive gigantic lump in their throat…so they always trash talk other teams…the team with the most revolting, vile, disgusting fan base…nobody likes them…every neutral I knew was supporting Italy…

[@coachjay4305]

It’s simple. Italy was just the better team. They were better the entire tournament.

[@paultaylor9446]

They won on penalties mate

[@coachjay4305]

Yes they did. They were still better. They deserved the win

[@markiec8914]

@@paultaylor9446 England wouldn't have won the tournament by penalties either? It's rather pointless argument...

[@paultaylor9446]

@@markiec8914 why not we were winning the shoot out we all no that penalty is a lottery i also thought we would never get to a final but we did we have the youngest side in the tournament give them something

[@proaaron578]

@@paultaylor9446 You got lucky. Italy missed many chances. Also, the penalty isn't a lottery. Southgate doomed your penalty shootout before it began by subbing on Rashford and Sancho.

[@feelinggrape]

Italy was better at every position. That's about it.

[@Amzyy]

Southgate needs to go we need a better manager with more bottle to guide these talented players. When he subbed in Rashford and Sancho who didn’t touch the ball all night for the pens is one of the worst managerial decisions I’ve ever seen 👋

[@mattross4257]

You should be the manager!

[@Kiddingyoumust]

Bring the team to the final since forever. Lose on penalties. Solution let’s fire him. … ahahhahaha

[@sneakytacos773]

Plus letting a 19 year old kid take the final penalty

[@juans8356]

Woah he got England to the two tournaments in the later stages. Yeah he made a mistake in Rashford and Soko but honestly the players who didn't take a penalty didn't step up either.

[@chilenozo]

@@Kiddingyoumust you mean a team with the players such England should just be reduced to attempt a Greece-like championship? Awful boring team. Quality players won't resist another 2-3 years playing like this.

[@Amzyy]

Don’t blame Rashford, Sancho or Saka. The real question is why did Southgate bring on these youngsters for the penalties if they haven’t had a kick in 120 minutes siting on the bench. He should’ve let the more experienced players take the pens but the three young players who missed at least have the cojones and they’ll bounce back from this defeat!

[@crucialgold3059]

120 minutes???? Nah lol the whole tournament 😭😭

[@subhashnarasimhan22]

Saka did come in regular time but, ge should not have taken it. Sterling or stones should have taken it

[@TangoBinAlsheed]

Exactly. If the match is coming down to penalties, you HAVE to stick with the players that brought you to the dance

[@Juzgames]

Thing england is not the level if italy germany and spain at their prime...england had a luck path in the wc2018 and this euro...imagine if england met spain or belgium in the second round if would be all over early on.

[@rooooooby]

England had 7/8 home games. Ironically, their best game was in Rome.

[@Juzgames]

@@rooooooby so ur telling playing at wembley was not an advantage.... lolz. england always have weird reasons to lose.

[@vati702]

@@rooooooby That ukraine was nothing

[@biddyboy1570]

England have finished better than Spain and Germany so you are talking rubbish.

[@vati702]

​@@biddyboy1570 England had the easiest path ever, not reaching the final would have been a shame to be honest.... and pls do not mention Germany, they are a good team but we saw what they did in this tournament and what they had done in 2018 WC... current germany is nothing special

[@saahilreddy]

Italy was the better team that night. Plain and simple.

[@malcolmdavies7794]

Yep , England underperforming again

[@jerrytrejo5365]

Why is everyone babying those who missed and not praising Pickford

[@smallarmskepa4390]

Because they lost?

[@maxigol1977]

Pickford's save on Chiesa was outstanding.

[@jasondias2778]

Any criticism to those 3 instantly gets noted as racism.

[@mbtravel7294]

As an Italian, I thought we were fucked. But I was pleasantly surprised when England backed off and waited for us to come.

[@vex_13]

Yea, and because we know immobile cant do his job as a striker. My only hope for attack is in chiessa

[@mohamedmo8128]

@@vex_13 You should bring back Mario Balotelli.

[@vati702]

@@mohamedmo8128 He fucked up

[@rosefalguni7572]

Yes England could have won but after the goal we gave you 88 mins to get an equaliser 🤷‍♀️ Chiesa is 🔥 player.

[@arisdelis1]

Mancini played it smart...Bonucci, Chielini, Donarumma did their job..Southgate parked the bus and Sterling kept diving....Congrats Italy

[@dregen8662]

he is too defensive, needs to be more ambitious, he got the players for being it.

[@heppolo]

he tried to be less defensive in 2018 and got scholed by Belgium and Croatia.

[@dregen8662]

@@heppolo is always better to fail being brave than being coward anyway.

[@mourice1669]

@@heppolo you can't defend 1 goal for 85 minutes they should have attacked attacked at least score 2 goals the start defending. Eng played it very cautious trying not to concede they parked the bus and that was a huge mistake

[@heppolo]

@@dregen8662 true, but southgate looked at Deschamps and Santos and thought screw playing well

[@Greywolfgolaso]

@@mourice1669 Especially against ITALY of all teams lol

[@art83z]

Quite simple: Southgate though he can beat Italy playing by defending with 10 man as Italy did for decades... Really stupid mistake...and honestly Italy deserved to win.. England should have played their football not imitating others... He had the chance to be on advantage and he blew it.... (I'm not either Italian or from England...just to be fair...)

[@jasperseen7347]

That's not what it is. It's the English media down playing other countries and making England seem like they won 6 world cups.

[@absatoubah8500]

@@jasperseen7347True

[@imawormbeforeiamman6052]

@@jasperseen7347 you're so right.

[@asdzxcz1360]

Southgate would never be hired by top EPL club, cause he's not that good, but there is problem with some FAs, including English, that they want to always push their countryman as coach of national team, even if he's not good enough... let's not forget that best coaches in EPL are foreigners... Southgate prefers anti-football, same as Deschamps with France. I always root for teams like that to be eliminiated ASAP. Having so many good players, and great offensive power, but playing dull, boring, defensive, old "catenaccio" style is a crime in terms of football... even Italy stopped doing that and they showed that you can get results and win matches with interesting, offensive football.

[@jasperseen7347]

@@asdzxcz1360 What about Jaochim Low he is worse than southgate lol. Can't use Coach as an excuse. Let me ask you this is it the coaches issue that the England missed 3 penalties? deff not. What's the difference between 2 hours and 10 minutes when you have to kick a ball unopposed?

[@dangiambrone7350]

"Kane was unplayable in the first half" "He destroyed Italy" More hyperbolic nonsense from Gab.

[@Spirosbotos]

I thought kane was decent, but yeah "destroyed italy" is silly

[@donatoiacovino6968]

Gab really plays with himself

[@Shubham10SrP]

Kane was brilliant in the first half . He needed more attacking support . There were 3 scoring chances that were created but the outball was ruined for another extra pass or a defensive touch . England tried to bite but they didn't have any teeth . Nobody tried to shoot . That's where they messed up.

[@smug3311]

Kane was the only attacking threat lol.

[@jgmediting7770]

Kane was invisible during the final.

[@user-rf4vf5gi2l]

England, you just lost the first final of your life. Welcome to the grown up adult table of world champions

[@termita358]

They were relying on Sterling diving in the box. Shameful 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Isn't a dive in the box a yellow card anymore????

[@tonyq8739]

England: is coming home 🏆 Italy: Rome*

[@spark556]

Never heard that one before, so creative 🥴

[@Kev-england-LFC-32]

Ohhh shut up🤣

[@technoog1807]

The match stats says it all. 1 shots on target and the Italian keeper made 0 saves! They had to attack. I would've played 4-2-4 with Grealish as an attacking Midfielder. Sterling, Kane, Phil/Rashford and Saka up front relentless attacking! I rather lose 4-3 playing the right way!

[@aaloo69]

This is the best analysis I’ve heard of the final. Most honest

[@paulyscorner99]

most pathetic...they're pretending England lost of their own making, rather than give credit to Italy for imposing it's style and forcing England to defend. for the first 20 minutes England sought another goal, but kept exposing themselves. Then they succumbed to defending in numbers by design, not default.

[@aaloo69]

@@paulyscorner99 sorry mate I must beg to differ. England most definitely lost that game due to poor tactics and set up. Had england continued to take the initiative and press as they were for that intoal period, there is little Italy could do to counter that. England are the superior team with better players in virtually every position (except goalkeeper) and playing with the correct tactics and approach that say would have blown Italy out of the game by the end of the first half.

[@carlhole-maloney3249]

Bit random but if klopp was the England manager, and gone 1-0 up, they would of won 4 -0 a manager with passion, experience and knowledge.

[@starboy5888]

I agree, Klopp is a different kettle of fish. Elite level manager.

[@n.s.5278]

The best defence is an attack.

[@Youtubechannel-po8cz]

Southgate is out of his depth, now having blown 3 huge games. Croatia, Holland and Italy. He should do the right thing and resign. Next to France, England has some great attacking players, but he’s incapable of utilising them. England were negative and conceded possession. Mancini got the absolute maximum out of a limited squad, they were positive, always played on the front foot and were brave, well done Italy they deserved to win.

[@stevencooke6451]

I don't know that I would call Italy limited, but I agree that as Spain showed, they can be made to look beatable. Southgate utterly bottled it yesterday playing to avoid losing in regulation.

[@jamescurtis47]

Italy did deserve the trophy. You seem unaware that Southgate is the first effective manager in about 25years, and his record is one the best in England’s history.

[@Youtubechannel-po8cz]

@@jamescurtis47 I’m more than aware as I’ve watched England for more than 25 years. We have a great crop of young players who need a Manager who can get the best out of them. From what we’ve seen so far, Southgate isn’t that man.

[@osodelososos5552]

I totally agree with this analysis. England had the opportunity to win and threw it away by retreating and inviting Italy to score. Oh well, there's always next time 😟

[@axl7793]

Italian here. We have a decent team but far more weak than the last decades. (Check the names of the azzurri from the early 2000...goosebumps). They simply worked well together as a one team, with winning mentality since the beginning of the tournament. England seemed too much conservative and had fear to win...their legs were shaking. Too much pressure maybe. Also too much talent left on the bench. Give Mancini that bench and he will win a major tournament without much effort. Also for the penalty: you blame the kids, but maybe the senior just refused to take their responsability. Just my 2 cents sorry for the bad english

[@roberto200579]

As an Italian i must admit England played great football and played far better than Italy did which at time was way too boring. Penalties are a lottery altough selecting the kid was not very bright from Southgate. This English team will do very well at the World Cup

[@stanmusz]

The most depressing thing, after how badly some England fans acted, is that Southgate will still be manager for the next world cup and it will be the same boring style to watch.

[@suhasguddeti2375]

That "Boring style" got England to a Euro Final and a World Cup semifinal

[@vex_13]

Who is the best english manager? Most of their big team have foreign manager

[@Intensive444]

@@suhasguddeti2375 with 95% home games with full fans and an easy draw, not that difficult :D

[@emma1674]

Kinda doubt they'll be major players in Qatar even.. by then we'll have a more mature Spanish team, a Hansi Flick German team, hopefully a France that's back smelling blood and Italy still riding high.

[@jusa9022]

@@emma1674 and portgual w ronaldos last ride, argentina now has confidence, brazil is always excellent, and virgil will be healthy meaning Netherlands will be there as well

[@stevieg7403]

England did really well getting to the final , however winning is a habit. Italy have a winning mentality when it comes to football, they’ve been doing it for a long time. Do you not see that England are starting to create a habit in reaching the last four. You only need to get lucky once, and it all starts. Remember France and Spain.

[@francescoflore4521]

I am Italian and I share your thoughts.

[@mayankdewli1010]

When the players know that they have been brought in specifically for the penalities and not for anything else, you can imagine how much pressure they must be feeling

[@Fudo44]

The problem is for you guys England won the tournament even before facing Italy. England didn't deserve to be in finals anyway.

[@Logicamasi]

Now that's bullocks

[@arsenalmanic]

Finally some guys that said it as it is. It was baffling and shocking approach and game management. Embarrassed the nation

[@chiakeetong8539]

Southgate is totally clueless. Why is he so defensive? Because he has no idea what to do

[@abed-lx5zt]

Nonsense lol. England win that 1-0 and youre calling it a masterclass. You're the clueless one who makes sweeping statements based on a penalty shootout

[@colinarcher2817]

Bottled it

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

@@abed-lx5zt Everyone could see something needed to be done in the second half, maybe everyone except you.

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

Southgate did not have the courage to act.

[@jammin1881]

@@abed-lx5zt He did shell up though. For like 80+ minutes we had no clue or control of the pace or the ball. It was terrible after that first goal. Make moves and at least hammer them again before letting off. 1-0 was never going to be easy over a seasoned team.

[@miroa12004]

The thing about it with Southgate is that he went this far while mainly sticking to the gameplan he put in his place, starting from the first game when he put Trippier at left back all the way to the semis so it was hard for him to deviate from it even when the evidence on the pitch suggested that Italy had total control of the situation. I didn't want England to win in fairness, but Hendo should have come on at least ten minutes earlier. Once Chiesa started moving to the central corridors towards the end of the first half, Rice was a ticking time bomb waiting to happen and had no idea how to deal with him. England needed the tranquility and calmness on the ball and on the pitch in general and Hendo provides that. I also thought taking Trippier instead of Walker was the wrong decision. While Walker didn't put a foot wrong, Trippier is much better going forward, his crosses will be of danger to the Italians and can hit a freekick and England had a couple of those around the area but had no one to shoot them. Obviously a lot has been written about putting Sancho and Rashford two minutes on before the end of extra time or letting Saka, a kid, basically have the weight of the world on his shoulders for the 5th penalty so I won't go there. The other thing is that I don't agree that England is the best international side when it comes to talent. They have tons of great players, but they all play in the same position on the pitch, once you go further back, there is a lot of hard working players but nothing special to write about. Italy's midfield is much better and more talented at keeping the ball than England's midfield and that is even when Hendo was on and that defense is nothing special to write about. It is great when you have Mount, Grealish and Foden in your squad but in reality to keep the balance of your team, you'd have to start at most just two of them. Same thing with Sterling, Rashford, Sancho and Saka, you can't start all four of them unless you're playing FIFA. It is worth noting that in this tournament, more and more managers who have squads full of stars like France and Portugal struggled with fitting them to a system and played much worse football than England and crashed out earlier, so credit has to be given to Southgate for at least knowing his best system and not trying to fit players into it rather choosing those who understood what he was trying to achieve on the pitch.

[@mattdingo8464]

Well said. England simply don't have the midfield to compete at the highest level. In particular, they lack a game manager who can control tempo and keep possession. Perhaps one of these young guys can become that player, but until that happens, they will struggle against the top teams.

[@javiercota3703]

He played with 5 in the back and with two 6s That was the problem

[@jordanluthers4209]

This was a really good and fair response

[@javiercota3703]

@W2LBellingham is the perfect 8 for England he’s can build

[@Mad_Intalect]

With such a squad, my Euro squad rotation would be rooted in a 4-3-3 with a holding midfieder to protect the defense on counter attacking opportunities, full backs offering overlapping support: Sterling Kane Sancho (Rashford/Saka/Grealish/Calvert-Lewin are all interchangeable here depending on how you want to play). Mount Bellingham (Hendo/Phillips interchangeable here as well) Phillips/Rice Shaw/Maguire/Stones/Trippier (defensive depth is self explanatory) You can't fail to utilize attacking talents such as Sancho etc, if you have such players, AFTER they score, one can still revert to the defensive/counter tactics with subs/formation change if required, or even start that way against a better technical team(i.e. a team like Spain). I would have also cut one defender(CB, Coady/White/Mings take your pick) from the final squad and added another CM for depth and tactical flexibility. I'm not a coach/manager though so, just imo. Anyway, Forza Italia!! I could see them winning the Euros, but it was nervy at times lol.

[@deathsurgeon4660]

England should be happy , they got more than they deserve . England wont qualify for qaurter final in wc 2022

[@jaylucas8352]

48 teams in WC final. New format , even harder to win

[@samdefore2692]

@@jaylucas8352 not until 2026

[@stevegold7307]

When England celebrated like they did after the semi final win, I knew they would lose the final....

[@robertburning574]

like Frace vs Switzerland

[@mihaiteodoroiu2593]

11JULY ENGLAND NATIONAL DAY Who asked for that ? Hmm AAA!!! OK LET S BE IT

[@lightcase377]

They celebrated because this a game, everyone celebrates after a win are you dumb?

[@not2busy]

I'm starting to think that many of the older players were aware of the Italian keeper's good track-record when it came to saving penalty-kicks. In front of the home crowd, with all of the VIPs and celebrities, with all of the hype that had built-up, perhaps they decided to opt out, just in case. Bring in the fresh scapegoats.

[@JayVee53]

Give Luis Enrique the England side and an intensive course in English, then I'll be almost certain England can win.

[@um8778]

That was England's best chance. They will never have another tournament where they play almost all their games (including the final) at home

[@ak5626]

How does that happen? Corruption?

[@pagatryx5451]

@@ak5626 Yep. I think so. I don't think it's just a lucky coincidence that they keep getting easy runs and home games...

[@emilepelletier8176]

@@pagatryx5451 it’s called a bracket dummy. You can’t predict the bracket setup in advance

[@vex_13]

Isnt this the same as they host euro? The problem is when other team have to travel a lot in between matches

[@pagatryx5451]

@@emilepelletier8176 Who sets up the bracket...

[@common64]

finally someone who says it: they shot only once on goal and then very often they all found themselves defending, all 11 in their own half; Italy clearly deserved it because on at least 4 occasions it came close to scoring; hearing them that losing her like that was the worst seems like a mockery, as they deserved to lose her first

[@michaelreader2929]

I think the problem wasn't England. It was that they had to play Italy and Italy are a top two team in the world.

[@davidv5748]

I am an American that watches every four years for World Cup and sometimes big matches like this. That's it. I'm commenting on what I saw - Italy constantly pressing, over and over and over. England back on their heels and very few opportunities. As someone who knows little about football strategy, I could clearly see Italy as the offensive team, the aggressive team, the team that deserved the title. No matter what sport or game you play, if one team plays to win and the other plays it safe, the stars align when the team that fights for the win gains the title. Dissect the rest on your own.

[@yingyang1008]

Yeah - the problem is that England had all its best players on the bench because of inept management

[@fawazsaud4682]

It all went wrong from what happend with Denmark in the semi final match.. U should analyze that 😉

[@goingballisticmotion5455]

You forgot that Greece also won with a defensive tournament. Too much so, but a team of unknowns won.

[@bobbywrtm]

The difference is Greece squad are build to defend... You don't play attacking football if your top stars are solid rock central back like Dellas and the most hardworking CDM at that period in Zagorakis and Basinas... Meanwhile, England got a lot of top quality attackers in Sterling, Kane, Foden, and Sancho but Southgate didn't properly use them!

[@pahakuutti]

Greece played Catenaccio with explosive counter attacking, similar to Hungary in these euro's. It's a common misconception that catenaccio is only defensive. For it to work, it must have the balance of attacking and defending. England didn't have that balance in the final.

[@emma1674]

Greece is Greece.. there was only one way to win for them. England's best players are all attack minded but left on the bench.

[@kunalverma6212]

Greece did have the players to play attacking football.

[@85Sudi]

has it come to that now, England need to play like Greece to win?

[@NNNIELSEN]

If Sterling didn't dive this wouldn't be a problem

[@NNNIELSEN]

@M C why didn't he get penalty last night? There was contact aswell!

[@michaelmohrle1773]

Germany fan here, England played very well and have for last 4 years especially Pickford. Could have went either way. 4th in the World Cup '18 Silver in the Euro, they are improving. Germany was 2nd and 3rd 2002,2006,2008,2010 in WC and Euros. England are a very good team.

[@steverwendeye1659]

They lost the game tryin to defend the whole 90 min after scoring that 1 goal

[@henchahencha5359]

Sorry guys, I can see where kane was spectacular at anytime in that game. Raheem was the biggest spark on that team for the tournament. Quit being political. Their best 11 did not play the finals

[@amrdaous]

Kane was excellent but without the support or the suitable tactics

[@arisdelis1]

Sterling should join the Olympic diving team...he dives well

[@jgmediting7770]

Italy had 2 central defenders in their mid thirties, and both on yellow cards. It’s poor management that Rashford and Sancho weren’t brought on earlier.

[@tonyg3091]

You are missing the fine point of these two defenders being the best ones and the finest pair of CBs the world has seen in the last years. Bonucci and Chiellini are so good, it is not even funny.

[@jgmediting7770]

@@tonyg3091 and how does that affect pace, fitness, fatigue and being on yellow cards?

[@tonyg3091]

@@jgmediting7770 Experience and positioning skills beats fitness and pace any day of the week. And when you add to that their defensive midfielders things start looking gloom for the opponents. Watch how Jorginho and Veratti moved and closed the gaps- yes you can probably beat such formation but for this you will need Xavi and Iniesta in the midfield.

[@jgmediting7770]

@@tonyg3091 no experience helps when you’re in extra time and on a yellow card. They’ll never be more vulnerable. You talk as if they’re invincible super heroes.

[@tonyg3091]

@@jgmediting7770 Facts proved me right mate :)

[@SNP-1999]

Exactly ! England had Italy on the back foot after just two minutes - if they had continued attacking, who knows how many goals they might have scored, like against Ukraine ? But resting on a one goal lead against Italy was never going to work, and it didn't.

[@xXScissorHandsXx]

Gab is like the "Alexander the Great" of football tactics when he starts breaking it down to expose the missing pieces lol 4:16

[@Episode_13]

Gab is very good, I wish this debate was over an hour.

[@Episode_13]

Great show guys, good mix. Both speak a lot of sense and it's decent to hear and watch.

[@saurabhjain4842]

England were Playing like west Bromwich Albion... 😂

[@Nigel-Webb]

C’mon, they weren’t that good!

[@danlysonsohtun6456]

And they think they are above all😂😂

[@nasaladnivar7218]

England will never win a major title with these kind of performances,they just refused 2 play & left all the work pickford 2 do,,no possession by pressing ,not creating chances by attacking ,not giving enough play time 4 substitutes by making timely decisions ,,only oppositions mistakes & luck may gonna aid them.

[@Rzc1b]

Totally agree, the whole time only defensive, they were doing nothing. I saw no Will for win!!! Always the same disaster and this at home in Wembley with so many fans.... 😠😠

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

They always play thus in major tournaments. Try to score an early goal, then sit back. It's haunted them many many times.

[@antoniofalchi5570]

I kind of feel bad for Pickford. Out of this star studded roster, he was the most criticised one. And in the finals, he almost carried the team on his back by saving those two pk. As an italian, he's the one I respect the most out of this team.

[@George-bi8sj]

To be honest it has worked in the past i.e. Greece, Mourinho teams etc, but does seem to be less effective these days.

[@johntuman1891]

@@George-bi8sj the problem is tho, England’s strength is clearly in the attacking, creative players. A team like Greece has no other way to play.

[@johnkirton2534]

Southgate is probably the nicest guy to manage England in my lifetime, apart from Sir Bobby Robson. However, he is too negative and just doesn't coach teams well enough to build patterns of play that create chances. The only times they've played good teams, in form, in tournaments under him;Croatia and Italy, they've lost. The media build up of him was last week was way over the top. He has an array of wonderful talent at his disposal and is way below the required level to coach and set up teams for these tournaments. His people management and media skills are right up there and probably above the level needed. Lovely guy, but he won't win anything with England or at any top clubs. Not a good enough coach and not ballsy enough.

[@japfourme381]

There’s no disgrace in what happened! Penalties can go either way on the night. The England lads should be proud of themselves and their performance!! They can look forward now to the World Cup with the knowledge they are getting closer & can give any team a run for their money!!

[@doml8959]

The disgrace is not playing to the team's best abilities and allowing the game to go to lotteries.

[@phillipmcdowell8562]

Italy were simply the best and most consistent team in the competition

[@MarcoBonechi]

They keep missing the obvious. England has attacking players but no builders. No Jorginho, no Pogba, no de Bruyne no Verratti no Pedri. That's because they do not teach football that way so there has never been such players in england. They will win when they finally get that type of player.

[@akshyadeep2222]

Yes spot on.That's why Kane has to drop deep to build up play.Kane might probably be the best passer in the whole squad which is mental because he is your striker.

[@arnabmitra4348]

I miss gerrard . His box to box runs killer passing, work rate is missing from England midfield . Now must need to include james word prowse .

[@dompricemusic2701]

Bellingham is, but Southgate won't play him because he's so youngn

[@arsenalmanic]

Well said! pathetic negative cowardly approach. We had so much in our favor and even an early goal. Play to your strengths? nope not with this manager. Chielleni the Italian senior defender said that England made him laugh, because Englands bench could've made the finals. So much talented offensive players, yet Southgate made them sit as deep as possible in our own box, trying see out a 2 min lead for 90 min. We had the easiest half of the draw. Apart from Germany, not really a top team as an obstacle, then we we had the Semi final and the Final on home ground in front of a sell out home crowd and the national all behind you. It was shocking negative cowardly approach. Just sit deep, with no out ball, then occasionally give the ball to Sterling or Kane, and cheer them on to run single handedly 70 yrd up the pitch. However it was more like. sit back, then when they you the ball, hoof the ball up the pitch back to Italy, and lose possession every 2 second. Only started to play more positively when we conceded and by extra time it was more even, but then again he looked to have settled for pens quite sometime before end of extra time. It's pathetic man. Let the nation down, when everything was in England's favor in a once in a generation opportunity to win international major trophy

[@arsenalmanic]

a brave a top manager, wouldve played to your squads strengths. I would've at least made sure at all times 2 players are up the pitch. Probably would've been Kane and Sterling. So at least the opposition's defenders are engaged and have something to worry about. We made them look like prime Barcelona. Just casually playing the ball around and England ball watching sitting deep. Spain were unlucky not to have beat Italy. they dominated the match similar to how Italy dominated against southgates negative tactics. Spain had 70% possession against Italy, yet England with all the offensive talent, AT HOME, had 35% possession against Italy. So what would it have been with these tactics against Spain? 20% possession for England, at home?

[@edgargonzalez-ce8rx]

Where did it go wrong? Easy, they faced Italy. England played great but Italy was just the superior team. Italy took out Belgium and Spain too.

[@mango3468]

@Hank Goldberg lazy reply

[@danielabatabogdanov8586]

Harry Kane had 0 touches in Italy's 16 meter area... He played very good that's not my point

[@siddharthsundar]

Also, maybe Gareth Southgate approached the game in a defensive manner. But still what happened during the penalties was not entirely his fault. Senior players like Henderson, Sterling, Grealish and Shaw must have stepped up at those crucial moments and Southgate can't force them at that time to take those game changing penalties. So instead of blaming Southgate and abusing the England team, appreciate that this team has come this far and wish them well in future tournaments.