Where did the Cabovers Go? - Big Questions About Big Rigs

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@sheyanderson4371
@sheyanderson4371 3 жыл бұрын
Cabover Optimus Prime will always be the true, one and only leader of the Autobots.
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know, some of the other primes have been good, Transformers Prime Optimus was good
@cyborgbill5053
@cyborgbill5053 3 жыл бұрын
And Starscream was a better leader than Galvatron (not Magatron thou). Galvatron was just a reformed Megatron with a broken brain, so to speak, Starscream was one crazy decepticon. My favorite decepticon...
@optiTHOMAS
@optiTHOMAS 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN! While I like the other designs too, the flat cab over design will always be my favorite and the original OPTIMUS PRIME!
@stephenbongard9419
@stephenbongard9419 3 жыл бұрын
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@warrenkec374
@warrenkec374 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbongard9419 r/ihadastroke
@dalewysinger3077
@dalewysinger3077 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that cabovers would be ideal for transporting loads within city limits; while conventional tractors could handle interstate transport.
@tomgrimes5071
@tomgrimes5071 3 жыл бұрын
Climbing in and out 20 times a day is not fun.
@gillespriod5509
@gillespriod5509 3 жыл бұрын
In Europe we have only them because Road are small and max lenght regulated by law
@barnacles62
@barnacles62 3 жыл бұрын
I watched a documentary that said the original reason they were built for just that reason, I never heard this theory. I also heard that they were harder on fuel, because the wind was flat into the nose and created a lot of drag. My father was certified diesel mechanic, he always liked cab overs. He claimed the GMC Astro was one of the best trucks ever made. Tecnology of today has made anything of this era prehistoric, but I remember them and playing in the old cabs of ones in the graveyard where dad worked. It was everything from a truck, to a space ship to me,lol....
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 3 жыл бұрын
@@gillespriod5509 Most European city roads were laid down with the intent to accomodate horse and buggy. European nations are incredibly ancient. Cities much older than Canada, United States of America, and Mexico, were never designed for enormous, heavy, lorries and trailers. Thus, the cab-over lorries must be used. More skilled drivers are a must as well. Almost all North American roads were laid with consideration for automobiles, lorries, and motorcoaches. North American nations have articulated motorcoaches as well. That would never be seen in European nations because of their length. You must admit. It is extremely impressive for European truckies to navigate roads plans laid down 500 to 1000 years ago. If that does not require skill and a stead hand, I do not know what does?
@williamlyttle5523
@williamlyttle5523 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomgrimes5071 yeah but the extra 2 meters of load space is money
@free-birdrocker8809
@free-birdrocker8809 3 жыл бұрын
I learned from a Mechanic that it was hard to lift the whole cab to work on the engine. He said you pretty much needed a whole crew to open it up. Long nose trucks is easy, 1 man can lift the cowling no probs. But cabovers are pretty cool lookin, BJ and the bear come to my mind. Keep em on the road!
@bigdaddy7119
@bigdaddy7119 3 жыл бұрын
Cabovers are a pain to work on all around. Most of them have a hydraulic jack setup installed so one man can lift the cab by jacking it open.
@free-birdrocker8809
@free-birdrocker8809 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigdaddy7119 Thanks Big Daddy 71, im learnid now.
@jeffdude6088
@jeffdude6088 3 жыл бұрын
The Navastars had a jack like a car bottle jack that would raise it up.
@natcalverley4344
@natcalverley4344 3 жыл бұрын
All modern cab overs had hydraulic lift of their cabs.
@joerobo682
@joerobo682 2 жыл бұрын
it was also not advisable to leave an open soda or cup of coffee when the mechanic is checking it out. very messy.
@JD-bf1bu
@JD-bf1bu 4 жыл бұрын
Cabovers were great for driving off overpasses into concrete-lined rivers while chasing preteen kids on mopeds.
@atheistconservative6211
@atheistconservative6211 4 жыл бұрын
Haha not a moped. If I recall correctly, an XR80
@chumbawaumbacumpa
@chumbawaumbacumpa 4 жыл бұрын
@Glenn Thomason Terminator 2, Judgement Day.
@georgebordi8986
@georgebordi8986 4 жыл бұрын
Xr 80 with two stroke sound and a 20spd transmission
@michaelhargis7036
@michaelhargis7036 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the good ole' days. We sure had it good back then.
@atheistconservative6211
@atheistconservative6211 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgebordi8986 lmaooooo 😂 yep you nailed it
@Cypher791
@Cypher791 4 жыл бұрын
I drive cabovers in the UK and as a result I am killed every couple of weeks.
@cedricgaston4722
@cedricgaston4722 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alba9507
@alba9507 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 🤗
@drh3b
@drh3b 4 жыл бұрын
You must have a funeral subscription.
@alba9507
@alba9507 4 жыл бұрын
I too drive cabovers in the UK but I've only died twice 🤗
@TigerMiller1
@TigerMiller1 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing more to say after that!😂
@RichieSmylz
@RichieSmylz 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful trucks in this video. Brought back childhood memories of my dads 78’ K100 with the sleeper.
@jimmack1504
@jimmack1504 4 жыл бұрын
Not mentioned is when the cab had to be tilted to work on the engine, everything not tied down went everywhere.
@jamesharrison6201
@jamesharrison6201 4 жыл бұрын
Once or twice and you made sure you had bungee cords
@nutmagnet22
@nutmagnet22 4 жыл бұрын
Easy to break a windshield if the stuff in the sleeper came through
@kathyyoung1774
@kathyyoung1774 3 жыл бұрын
THAT was the one big inconvenience!!! Other than that, I loved my cabover I bought.
@timmyhipbird7543
@timmyhipbird7543 3 жыл бұрын
had a tv crash thru the windshield when worked on in the shop I worked at.
@kathyyoung1774
@kathyyoung1774 3 жыл бұрын
@@timmyhipbird7543 That's why they always made us drivers jack up our own cabs in the shop.
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 4 жыл бұрын
In Japan, they only have cabovers. In fact, I've never seen a traditional cab (non-cabover) in my life here. Of course the reason is obvious; a shorter turning radius. Japan's roads are narrow and fuel costs are also higher. Also, no need for huge sleepers as Japanese truckers don't sleep! lol
@GriderTornado
@GriderTornado 3 жыл бұрын
in Europe mainly cab-overs are used. It started when ze germans introcduced a law limiting the length of the trailer+truck. This law also prevents the use off very long trailer setups (truck trains - like in Australia) some companies are argueing that for long distance deliveries it would be better to allow such truck trains as it results in fewer trucks and less fuel consopmption, and leave the local delivery to small trucks. But there are also some conventional cab trucks here, they often need special permissions for delivery, as a result they are generally show stuff over here.
@MelGibsonFan
@MelGibsonFan 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a smart decision but here in NY we don’t really use them either. I don’t know why?
@melindaortiz9741
@melindaortiz9741 3 жыл бұрын
No sleep 🤣
@tresfingeros
@tresfingeros 3 жыл бұрын
Was station in Yokosuka in the Navy and know what your talking about 👍
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriderTornado Ze Germans lol
@patamats
@patamats 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid my great grandmother lived next to I-84 inBrewster NY. When my mother used to visit I’d sit in the yard and watch the trucks, mostly cabovers go by and wonder where they were headed. This is what kids did before iPads!
@cm1133
@cm1133 3 жыл бұрын
You and I had very similar childhoods.
@bramharms72
@bramharms72 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. As someone from the Netherlands, a very small country with many narrow and winding roads in and outside the cities, it now makes total sense why you only see cabovers here. In 40 years I've only seen maybe a handful of longnose trucks outside of car shows. We don't even have separate words for them, Cabovers are "Trucks" and longnoses are "American Trucks". :-)
@charlesmaroon8819
@charlesmaroon8819 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Dutch truck drivers decorate their cabs with lace curtains. Nice touch not seen in America. Hup Holland!
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you called every big truck over there a "lori" or is that just a British thing?
@bramharms72
@bramharms72 2 жыл бұрын
@@MRSketch09 Very British. I had to look up what those damn lorries were they always went on about, I thought they were some kind of wheelbarrow. Here in the Netherlands we call them "vrachtwagen" (vracht=freight, wagen=car/wagon) but we're just as likely to call them Trucks.
@Ed-xt5rr
@Ed-xt5rr 4 жыл бұрын
A cabover Pete with a reefer on an a Jimmy haulin hogs.
@richardoakley8800
@richardoakley8800 4 жыл бұрын
Martin penWALD
@alvarsdzenis4739
@alvarsdzenis4739 4 жыл бұрын
@Robbert James C. W. McCall
@gregoryscott7088
@gregoryscott7088 4 жыл бұрын
Mercy sakes alive.
@jjstak98h
@jjstak98h 4 жыл бұрын
Put the microbus in behind that suicide jockey. Yeah, he's haulin' dynamite; he needs all the help he can get.
@waynewright2886
@waynewright2886 4 жыл бұрын
Same Here!
@northumbriabushcraft1208
@northumbriabushcraft1208 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know the term cabover until now, it's just a truck to me and the other kind is an 'American truck' 'Big rig' or '18 Wheeler' if you see a American truck here in England it turns heads, it's like a rolls royce or a tank going down the street, everyone turns and looks Edit: nice to know the actual terminology though, interesting.
@eannamcnamara9338
@eannamcnamara9338 3 жыл бұрын
Ik right. I haven't seen a non cabover for the 16 years I've been alive. I really want to see one.
@my3dviews
@my3dviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@eannamcnamara9338 It's the opposite here in Canada. I haven't seen a cabover in several years.
@brendan7094
@brendan7094 3 жыл бұрын
@@eannamcnamara9338 past four times i’ve driven on i95 i’ve seen a cab over, all beautiful trucks
@michelleisle9005
@michelleisle9005 3 жыл бұрын
You are too young to understand and different generation
@kennethscofield4565
@kennethscofield4565 3 жыл бұрын
They are known as conventionals, there are good reasons cabovers have been phased out since deregulation took the length limits back.
@missourirebel9669
@missourirebel9669 3 жыл бұрын
I see cabovers being reconditioned and put back into service every day here in Kansas City
@supporterofeverythingyouli6255
@supporterofeverythingyouli6255 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of drugs in Kansas City too.
@kevinrichards3288
@kevinrichards3288 3 жыл бұрын
@Missouri Rebel oh wow because I very seldom see any on the roads here in the USA nowadays besides garbage trucks, fire trucks, & yard trucks which are also cabovers.
@lilcourtny08
@lilcourtny08 3 жыл бұрын
@@supporterofeverythingyouli6255 drugs are everywhere not just Kansas city.
@supporterofeverythingyouli6255
@supporterofeverythingyouli6255 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilcourtny08 I don't think you understood the "spirit" of the comment.
@ArtVanAuggie
@ArtVanAuggie 3 жыл бұрын
If the frame and motor are good, you will beat all the newer emission standards and most importantly, inefficiencies.
@Mizz.Person
@Mizz.Person 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had one for a few years . I loved it because the engine cover was perfect for a large pizza! Thank goodness for truck drivers! ❣❣❣
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 2 жыл бұрын
Wait.. what?
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 3 жыл бұрын
When I was starting out, the proportion of cabovers was about 50/50 in the area I worked in. One of the first old jalopies I was assigned to as a newbie was an old Hayes cabover doing short hauls. I swear to God, it was the roughest riding, most uncomfortable GD vehicle I've ever experienced and the other cabovers at our company - Freight Shakers, IHs and Kennys - were very little better. Seeing so many of the old rigs at a show like in the video is really cool from a nostalgia point of view but there's no way in the high hell I'd ever drive those effin' things again! I do NOT miss them.
@bandeano3870
@bandeano3870 3 жыл бұрын
only North America uses long nose trucks the rest of the world uses cabovers. you cannot compare the cabovers that are built today with those old models that you have driven. cabovers rule the world, and thats a fact
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandeano3870 I drove Volvo, Scania, Renault, Steyr and Mercedes cabovers in Europe as late as 2001 and you're right; they were miles better than the old junk from my early days. And on European roads, towns and cities, I actually prefer them but on North American roads, I still much prefer conventionals. Better ride, better ingress/egress, look better (IMO), easier maintenance.... And it's not just NA that uses them; Australia uses plenty of them too.
@bandeano3870
@bandeano3870 3 жыл бұрын
@@hughjass1044 yes, long nose trucks are probably more pleasant to drive on very long journeys. And now that the noses of the newer trucks go down more, the view from the cab is much improved too. What I wonder is why some Americans including you call long nose truck conventional? I would rather think that cabovers are conventional, old-fashioned and conservative in style. Or does conventional have another meaning in America?
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandeano3870 I dunno; it's just what everyone knows them as. Perhaps because it has the "conventional" look similar to most other things on the road with an engine bonnet forward.
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 3 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why cabovers *REALLY* basically disappeared.
@AtliJarlMartin
@AtliJarlMartin 4 жыл бұрын
It is remarkable that we European truckers are still alive after driving our cabovers for all these years. Amazing even.
@JohnSmith-wx9wj
@JohnSmith-wx9wj 4 жыл бұрын
Try driving it from coast to coast over garbage American roads. I drove cabovers in the army, and while they are much more maneuverable, I don't like bouncing against my seatbelt every day.
@thoubias
@thoubias 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj I believe that old american and new european cabovers are built massively differently, so direct comparison is not too easy. That being said, also the road infrastructure and traffic cultures differ a lot from one country to another. Also, an american long haul trip is often much longer trip than what european truckers do. I gotta say that I definitely get why american truckers seem to love the insane long wheelbases for the long haul trips, but oh barn those also seem to have an awful maneuvrability. I think most of the people do forget that american driving across one state is pretty much equivalent of an european driving across their entire country. And I also think it really is remarkable how well truckers stay alive in flat nose trucks, even in accidents. Have safe journeys on the road out there, people! Remember to sleep well and wear seatbealt!
@nemo227
@nemo227 4 жыл бұрын
You made me laugh. I figure if drivers of cabovers drive into something and die . . . maybe they should not be truck drivers.
@nemo227
@nemo227 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj Probably a valid point but my motorhome has me sitting over the front wheel and it's comfortable. But I've only driven it on California and Oregon roads. There are always pros & cons to every vehicle, aircraft, tool, machine, etc.
@brownh2orat211
@brownh2orat211 4 жыл бұрын
@@thoubias I average about 650 miles (1046 km ) per day, my average trip, (load) is about 1400 miles (2253 km) I go out on the road on average about 6 weeks. Like I mentioned before I drove a cabover for a lot of years back in the 90's and it's a world of difference than driving a conventional when it comes to comfort both in ride and living conditions! I really don't think there's any difference in maneuverability I can park my conventional in all the same places I ever parked a cabover.
@goyeabuddy
@goyeabuddy 4 жыл бұрын
i'm a retired diesel mechanic & the cab overs were the best to work on. engines & trans were easier to pull, replacing a clutch was usually a 4 hr job & that was cruising!
@79tazman
@79tazman 3 жыл бұрын
I would think maintenance is better on a COV then a COE
@bill_clinton697
@bill_clinton697 3 жыл бұрын
@@79tazman Larger jobs like pulling an engine / transmission or deep engine service would be easier on a cab-over due to the cab tilting, giving you more access to the drivetrain.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@79tazman I suspect that for the small maintenance items that a driver handles a tilt-hood conventional would be easier, but for major work that justifies the time and hassle to tilt the whole cab, the cabover is easier as Bill_Clinton69 explained. Different situations, different preferences.
@peterhessedal8539
@peterhessedal8539 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a cabover on my trip yesterday. Thought to myself "I've not seen one of those in a long time!" and "dang thats in pretty goog shape"
@eannamcnamara9338
@eannamcnamara9338 3 жыл бұрын
Really?! I've lived in Europe my whole life and have never seen a non cabover truck in my life.
@my3dviews
@my3dviews 3 жыл бұрын
Same here in Canada. Haven't seen one of those type trucks in years.
@scrappy93
@scrappy93 3 жыл бұрын
@@eannamcnamara9338 in the states I haven't seen one in a very very long time driving on the street.
@kevinrichards3288
@kevinrichards3288 3 жыл бұрын
Safety & increased length limit are what got rid of most of the cabovers in the USA since they didn't have good enough protection between the driver & whatever was coming at him in front. Those semis rode rough since the driver was right directly above the front axle which caused hurt back problems on the drivers & they were noisy inside the cab too since the motor was closer to the driver & the noise could hurt the driver's hearing after many years driving them making long hauls.
@2ndarmoredhellonwheels106
@2ndarmoredhellonwheels106 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the 90s when I drove a cab over we had a saying. If you had a wreck the driver got there before the truck
@banjopickerinadoublewide7613
@banjopickerinadoublewide7613 4 жыл бұрын
James McCutchan here here! I drove them pumpkin trucks for that company in Green Bay in the first six months of my truck driving career in 1993. Got the hell away from there and got hired by a company out of West Liberty, IA (at the time) called Florilli that had Peterbuilt 377s. Never went back to a cabover and watched as they disappeared from the roads.
@danjo1967
@danjo1967 4 жыл бұрын
@@banjopickerinadoublewide7613 so what you're saying is you'd rather a massive killing box infront of you to crush anything in front - rather that the irresponsible truck driver getting killed and 1 less fuckwit off the road
@sheldonhchambliss1385
@sheldonhchambliss1385 4 жыл бұрын
That's very true
@maximumhardcore4362
@maximumhardcore4362 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Boyd you definitely haven’t a clue
@judefernandez827
@judefernandez827 4 жыл бұрын
James McCutchan I was going to say the same cos I feel the bonneted chassis are mo safer and look more rugged and tough.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 4 жыл бұрын
i remember fixing a ford coe the latch broke. guy hit the brakes hard cab flipped. said he was looking sraight down at the asphault. brown short moment.
@timd6671
@timd6671 4 жыл бұрын
@Gus VanHorn That must have been harrowing to experience.
@flamboone9727
@flamboone9727 4 жыл бұрын
Not just the latch had to break. The safety catch hook had to have been malfunctioning as well.
@jeffcombest6466
@jeffcombest6466 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch!!!😯
@shreddder999
@shreddder999 4 жыл бұрын
Should be two latches.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when most big companies had day cab singke axle cab overs. I always thought they would flip forwards when hitting the brakes when running bobtail
@Robert8455
@Robert8455 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained. I think the cabover would be great for local, short hauls in metro areas where sleeper cabs aren't needed and manuverability is better ... but despite that you just don't see them.
@gilbertvehicleservices
@gilbertvehicleservices 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I think this is why I see many old cabovers being owned and used farmers in Michigan-Ohio-Indiana : they are occasional use trucks with good maneuverability and low price.
@giovanni6643
@giovanni6643 2 жыл бұрын
In the u.s. new cabovers are intended for and almost exclusively in city's and suburbs where the long haul trucks either can't go or will have a hard time getting around, there are a few imported european trucks that have been brought into compliance and are in use but i haven't seen any in person.
@doghouse416
@doghouse416 4 жыл бұрын
Still hauling in my cabover, every state except that one on the west coast.
@ronfullerton3162
@ronfullerton3162 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what state that is? Ha ha ha ha!
@leonardbreau8928
@leonardbreau8928 4 жыл бұрын
Are they illegal there? Since its one of the biggest markets in the country, doesn't this limit the amount of jobs & income you make?
@lenjames
@lenjames 4 жыл бұрын
Soon that state will be it's on Banana Republic
@RedLP5000S
@RedLP5000S 4 жыл бұрын
Alaska?
@ThunderClawShocktrix
@ThunderClawShocktrix 4 жыл бұрын
@@lenjames you mean its not already?
@bodieb.1239
@bodieb.1239 4 жыл бұрын
They have a timeless look.
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they look like timeless shit to me
@dieselcowboy777
@dieselcowboy777 3 жыл бұрын
About as timeless as a graveyard.....booo
@militaryveteran6185
@militaryveteran6185 3 жыл бұрын
So does a TURD !
@keithknott8307
@keithknott8307 5 ай бұрын
​@@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 They looked a heck of a lot better than these MODERN DAY COMPUTERIZED ANT EATER PIECES OF CRAP 💩 OF TODAY DO.
@richierich396
@richierich396 3 жыл бұрын
Grew up back in the day riding with my dad in International Emeryville's and Transtar's. Always loved looking out the windshield of a cabover vs a conventional cab. Thanks for sharing!
@jasonrackawack9369
@jasonrackawack9369 4 жыл бұрын
The original Optimus Prime was a cab over. 😁
@jeremiahhamilton6840
@jeremiahhamilton6840 4 жыл бұрын
He sure was. And he was cool !
@albertagibinik3436
@albertagibinik3436 4 жыл бұрын
Gobots movie now
@tsunsu
@tsunsu 4 жыл бұрын
True
@user-rx6km2de4m
@user-rx6km2de4m 4 жыл бұрын
So was Huffer. Remember him?
@MShrader211
@MShrader211 4 жыл бұрын
Optimus looked sooo much better as a Peterbilt 379 though... the return to a cab-over appearance totally sucked in last movie. :-(
@ChaseTheOttah
@ChaseTheOttah 3 жыл бұрын
Company has a couple of modern cabovers with fairly long wheelbases and I have to say they're excellent to drive. The only real safety concern is that if there's ice on the steps, you have a long way to fall, having done so a couple of times. The lack of a long hood to absorb impact is a factor, but not that big of one. One of our cabovers t-boned a trailer that jumped the median ditch and the frame rail for the trailer is below the feet of the driver. Still had injuries ofc but the driver seat and cab was more or less intact
@joshbobst1629
@joshbobst1629 3 жыл бұрын
I used to drive a Mack day cab cabover. It had previously been a UPS truck. I loved it. It had a pneumatic clutch, it was the smoothest operating clutch I've ever encountered.
@lenjames
@lenjames 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like watching an old movie and these awesome trucks smashing through a road block
@johngarcia574
@johngarcia574 4 жыл бұрын
My first rig was a frieghtliner cabover had a million miles I paid $6,000 cash it paid for itself at least 10 times over I miss that old truck
@Exotic3000
@Exotic3000 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This video was very informative!!
@379Pete
@379Pete 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a special feeling you get when you climb that ladder.
@bho-lj1jk
@bho-lj1jk 4 жыл бұрын
Hdrk And another special feeling when you grab it to get out and find it covered in ice. Ah, the good ol’ days. CO4070A with Malcomb McClean double diamonds.
@bho-lj1jk
@bho-lj1jk 4 жыл бұрын
And glad for the International, ‘cause it wasn’t a cracker box jimmy.
@Eagles0690
@Eagles0690 4 жыл бұрын
I started in a cab over
@mikegillaspy1721
@mikegillaspy1721 4 жыл бұрын
Feeling in your hips, back, legs
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 жыл бұрын
Climb the ladder into a cab with a 23 channel Robyn AM CB radio, AM/FM Sparkomatic quadraphonic radio with 8-track deck, 600 watt Galaxy 600 liner amplifier, Radio Shack 300 watt Power inverter, 12 volt Black and white 10 inch Emerson television, camp stove, TV dinners, apartment refrigerator, no air conditioning so two fans blowing, a chain dragging from the back axle, a sleeper as comfortable as a jail cell, 12 license plates from different states on the front, four more license plates from different states on the back, CB callsign painted in the side of the door, "KBX1339," with the handle, "The Grinder," painted under it, two huge mirrors sticking out of the sides with two six foot Francis antennas, two spotlights on the mirrors, two huge flood lights on the bumper, bull bars in the front, 12 speed manual gearbox with three reverse gears, Road Noise echo mic for the CB radio, John Denver playing on the radio, and the truck crawling up the side of the mountain at 12 miles per hour. Those were the days!
@KMN-bg3yu
@KMN-bg3yu 3 жыл бұрын
So pleased to see this video pop up, not too long ago it dawned on me that we don't see cabovers anymore and was curious to know why
@chib9427
@chib9427 3 жыл бұрын
With a cabover you sit over the front wheels. Every time you hit a bump or dip in the road you feel it twice as much as in a conventional cab. With a conventional cab you sit between the front and rear wheels therefor the bump is felt less. I drove 10 and 18 wheel trucks for over 35yrs (now retired).. cabovers can beat the hell out you on a less than perfect road surface.
@rodneywelch3556
@rodneywelch3556 3 жыл бұрын
The discomfort factor and long hours away from family was likely the reason my dad wanted very badly to make sure I never got in the seat. Yet after several career changes, Covid and losing my massage business to the big scare, I now sit driving a class B with no regrets about my path in life. I look forward to longer days and longer hauls but I do remember the cramped cab over style. You are practically sitting next to the engine, the old school ones were like riding a red wagon with no shocks, no air ride seat and your spine took a beating! Dad would be amazed to see how much they have improved the industry overall. Love your channel, newly subbed, keep em coming! Thanks!!
@SAVOTYB
@SAVOTYB 2 жыл бұрын
That class B was kind of a waste. You don’t really need a CDL to drive a box truck.
@areguapiri
@areguapiri 9 ай бұрын
Stop the covid lunacy!
@BerraPettersson
@BerraPettersson 4 жыл бұрын
In Sweden 99% of all heavy trucks are COEs - made in Sweden by VOLVO and SCANIA, of course.
@Love2Cruise
@Love2Cruise 3 жыл бұрын
About that... What's up with Swedes' obsession of 750+ HP trucks? Volvo has a 750 and Scania has a 770. What do you guys haul? Volvo in US tops out at 500 with its D13. D16 isn't offered here. For more power Cummins is the other option.
@WhiteMouse77
@WhiteMouse77 3 жыл бұрын
@@Love2Cruise In fact whatever heavier than average. Timber, Tankers, Construction machines….The point is that Europe is very hilly and highway usually have only two lines /It is traffic rule that trucks may not overtake in two line highways/ therefore truck must keep tempo about 56 MPH with passenger cars in right line no matter the trailered load has over 40 tons. In the left fast lane you must go at least 87 MPH to be safe or some fuel feet bombs your trunk….so the slower go in right line with trucks about 56 MPH. That’s why giant engine torque in lowest revs is needed in the heaviest trucks.
@shelbynamels973
@shelbynamels973 3 жыл бұрын
@@Love2Cruise 750 bhp? Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
@grmasdfII
@grmasdfII 3 жыл бұрын
@@Love2Cruise Look at a topographic map of Scandinavia and it will become apparent. "Kristo Boginski" here on KZbin has some nice footage to look at.
@bengtsoderlund7455
@bengtsoderlund7455 3 жыл бұрын
@@Love2Cruise Up to 76 or 104 tons of maximum total weight. Cab over because total length of truck and trailer is regulated. One example from northern Finland kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKOkhHiblrSgeqs
@TheCloakedTiger
@TheCloakedTiger 4 жыл бұрын
I did OTR for a couple years. Whenever I got to see a cabover I got so freakin excited. Even got to sit in a few of them and take pics. These trucks need to be saved and restored. That’s truckin history!
@markcollins2666
@markcollins2666 3 жыл бұрын
My father drove a 1952 Ford COE wrecker, and would take me along on runs sometimes. At 5 years old, talk about tall in the saddle! And what a view!
@Sandman253
@Sandman253 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia COE are used for hauling long configerations like :- Road trains , Double and triple trailers , B doubles and triples. ALso in New Zealand COE's are used due to running in hilly and twisty areas.
@BenKrisfield
@BenKrisfield 4 жыл бұрын
Love the twin steer K200. See lots of them in NZ.
@aaronsanborn4291
@aaronsanborn4291 4 жыл бұрын
We run two 48 foot log trailers on a conventional tractor unit here in Maine up in the woods. Where I'm from we don't only have to worry about Farmer John's cows getting loose but Whitetail Deer, Black Bear and Moose. If you hit a full grown moose you'd be grateful to have that long nose out in front of you. A full grown bull moose will be between 1000 to 1500 pounds (roughly 450 to 680kg) easy.
@samisilander9305
@samisilander9305 4 жыл бұрын
We have only COEs here in Europe.
@waynewright2886
@waynewright2886 4 жыл бұрын
Truckers Can't do the Triple Trailers here in the States, Ohio I Think? Is at Least One State that Can Use Triple Trailers, or Not? Here in California Triple Trailers are Banned, & if a Trucker Entering California with a Triple Trailer, you'll get a Quick Response by the CHP (California Highway Patrol) & you Wouldn't Like the Response from the CHP.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
Even in North America COE tractors are common for moving vans, which need to fit maximum volume in a length compatible with non-commercial urban destinations. Some even carry a "dromedary box" of cargo on the tractor.
@robhicks2117
@robhicks2117 4 жыл бұрын
BJ and the Bear! @ 4:30 gave me a flashback to what I watched on TV when I was a kid in the 1970's.
@samueltractorton2088
@samueltractorton2088 3 жыл бұрын
Kickass, great information! Used to love those cab overs, My dad had a few of them in the mid 70's, A White and a couple Kenworth's. You could see everything, had to remember to empty that cab though when you wanted to work on them, change cups all kinds of shit would go all over the place. Never really realized why they disappeared, thanks.
@kevinrichards3288
@kevinrichards3288 3 жыл бұрын
I bet back in the day when cabovers were common, I lot of the drivers would forget to take their loose stuff outta the cabs before having their semis worked on by the mechanics at the shops. Lol
@curtekstrom6600
@curtekstrom6600 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still running 3 Cabover KW's (1976 and 1985) in my Fleet of 38 Vintage 1986 Pete 359's
@thebosscatman7
@thebosscatman7 4 жыл бұрын
i would think you must live in a third world country where i come from you can not run a fleet of vintage trucks they would have to be tier 4 engines
@cameronmacnab2042
@cameronmacnab2042 4 жыл бұрын
In Australia we still use cabover Kenworth K200 it's the best selling truck in Australia. King of the Highway
@calebd759
@calebd759 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to move there and get to drive them.
@audoinxr6372
@audoinxr6372 4 жыл бұрын
K200 aint the biggest seller here. Maybe KWs biggest seller. Volvo FH out sells them.
@cameronmacnab2042
@cameronmacnab2042 4 жыл бұрын
@@audoinxr6372 oh ok
@masterq2.033
@masterq2.033 4 жыл бұрын
@@audoinxr6372 Because it's a more comfortable, safer , more reliable option.
@waynewright2886
@waynewright2886 4 жыл бұрын
Have you made Hauls from Sidney, Or Melbourne, or Other Western Sissie Cities to Perth, or the Other Way Around?
@jec0007
@jec0007 3 жыл бұрын
My father was driving a white GMC Astro 95 on the 401E, Kingston ON. Thanks the total lack of protection of a cabover, when the truck hit an overpass pier, he was killed on impact, dec 10th 1982. He was 43 yo, I was 10 yo. miss you so much still... R.I.P. Gilles Charron
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
How did he happen to hit an overpass pier?
@jec0007
@jec0007 3 жыл бұрын
I was told there was black ice on the highway. In addition, his trailer was almost empty. He struck the corner of the pier (pier : concrete wall on either side of the freeway supporting the overpass.; not sure if it's the right term, i speak french) almost in front of him. his skull was fractured in several places (there was an 8 inch fracture on the top the head) his head struck the windshield on impact. If he had had an ordinary truck (with the engine in front of him) he would had survived, with serious injuries but he would had survive.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
@@jec0007 I'm sorry to hear that. I drove out of Chicago in '72-'73 and one of my first trips was down to Louisville with freezing rain between Gary and Indianapolis. So dangerous to drive big rigs.
@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888
@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the problem was his driving.
@Motor-City-Mike
@Motor-City-Mike 3 жыл бұрын
@Bill the Welding Sloth Very well put. It took nearly every fiber of my being not to reply to 'S H' (***t Head maybe?) I couldn't have been nearly half as reserved as you were - I'd be banned from all social media if I responded to these people like they truly deserve.
@spacecat7247
@spacecat7247 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing them return to the road in and around the oil fields. South and west texas.
@aloysiusbelisarius9992
@aloysiusbelisarius9992 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, this; it answered a lot of the questions I myself had asked over the years, having remembered cabovers being the majority rule where rigs were concerned, only to suddenly see that they vanished. A few of the answers confirmed my own guesses, while others gave me information I didn't know. I know of another disadvantage of cabovers not mentioned in the video, which had to have been a contributor to their near-disappearance from the States. A trucker is always going to be carrying personal goods with him or her in the truck, especially on long hauls. Should the truck suffer a breakdown, which happens more often than most would admit, what is the first thing one would do? Open the hood, see what is up with the engine. Well, with a cabover, the entire cab, to include the sleeper portion, IS the hood. That means that, before the driver can think of opening the hood, they'd have to remove or otherwise secure their personal goods (which would very probably also include foodstuffs) first and foremost. That I am sure would prove very drudgerous, but necessary lest all their goods, food, etc. end up all over the dash and windshield. Obviously, a regular nosy truck will not have that issue. Advantage, conventionals. There is something also about the vision aspect of cabovers. Yes, in theory, they should provide better view and thus better ability for the driver to respond to sudden emergencies...IN THEORY. In the real world, a driver would have to be extremely disciplined by his or her training to actually take advantage of the vision. Although I'm sure that big-rig training must concentrate on the safety aspect, there are some who will doze off through that block of instruction. The natural plane of sight is eye-level, meaning that one will normally look straight ahead, left, or right at the natural level of the eyes; without disciplinary habits ingrained into their minds, nobody will think about adjusting their eye levels downward to see what may be BELOW them. This is the biggest problem with the SUV craze, and why so many are involved in crashes and collisions: Your average SUV driver is simply not trained properly to see BELOW their vehicle which is twice as high as a car. When one factors in a truck that is at least three, sometimes more, times as high as a car, that risk will multiply. Of course, such a problem extends to conventional trucks as well, it's not a problem exclusive to cabovers...but it is a problem that is very prevalent and thus nullifies any publicly-proclaimed advantages in field of vision with the cabover configuration. In the end, it's more the driver than the vehicle that is responsible for a safe trip. So, why are they so popular in Europe? I would surmise that, first, they don't have nearly so long to travel unless they're traveling internationally. No European country is as large as the United States, and most commercial activity would be kept in-country, so there should be little need for drivers in a European country, say Germany for instance, to carry a lot of personal goods with them. Second, European countries have much more restrictive vehicle rules than the States do, many of which are reminiscent of the old days referred to in the video. Third, because the countries are smaller, that means the non-autobahn roads are also smaller, and city streets practically require extreme maneuverability, never mind the vehicle regulations in place. Having been in Germany for three years, this is what I have deduced. I have also noticed and can therefore confirm that conventional-nose trucks are virtually nonexistent in Europe, unless they happen to be U.S.-military rigs. All that said, I occasionally take notice of cabovers on American roads, especially in the Kansas area. Virtually all of them are clearly older, back from "The Day," but they are still out there and still in use by those who still love them, either from past experience or just for the novelty aspect. They are just so rare that seeing even one is a novelty, like seeing a 1960s Lincoln on the roads today.
@joepass1883
@joepass1883 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being concise
@jimjam1719
@jimjam1719 3 жыл бұрын
do you know if russia has cabovers? that country is wee bit larger than all of europe. i don't know about you, but i love the cabovers, i could see very well, hardly any blind spots, it didn't seem a rough ride to me, i actually preferred them over the long nose submarine of the conventionals, i could drive better in the cabovers. i guess it's just personal preference. thanks for the insight and thanks for your front line hard work. peace brother.
@CCscott
@CCscott 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepass1883 I had to read that book in phases.
@billb2009
@billb2009 3 жыл бұрын
Drove a lot of years, both conventional and cab over. I loved the cab overs! They were great for a lot of reasons and they have a great sleeper. Well, they all have wonderful sleepers. They're almost nice rooms now days. Keep on truckers! Not sure I'm ready to see driverless trucks on the road!
@rockinrowdy13
@rockinrowdy13 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I owned a '82 Cornbinder 9670 with a 300 big cam with a ten speed pulling flat beds...did the job just fine!
@jsboening
@jsboening 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the show “BJ and the Bear”? Loved that truck.
@henerymag
@henerymag 4 жыл бұрын
Those old enouugh to remember the 1958 TV series Cannonball will see the GMC 950 COE. Would not want to take that for a long ride.
@fourierrocket
@fourierrocket 4 жыл бұрын
And best of all I don't pay property tax!
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 3 жыл бұрын
Not realistic, the idea of driving irregular route OTR truck with a shitting ape in the truck with me, was one of the stupidest things I could imagine. I used to watch the show so I could laugh at it.
@samueltractorton2088
@samueltractorton2088 3 жыл бұрын
Used to love that show.
@johnsegertsons2143
@johnsegertsons2143 3 жыл бұрын
One of the trucks pictured is a BJ and the bear look alike
@hajikilla91
@hajikilla91 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and Loved the Cab Over Design and they were everywhere!!!
@funnycity6671
@funnycity6671 4 жыл бұрын
were did they go?? Mexico,, all over the border of Texas you will see them especially Laredo,,, they use them in Mexico's mountains and farms,, they love the GMC Astro, the international,, Freightliner,, and Kenworth!! in Laredo I saw some Chevy bisons,, they were not cab overs ,, but looked nice!!
@jeepguy220
@jeepguy220 4 жыл бұрын
Chevy titan/90 possibly the rarest class 8 truck ever!!
@mortensen1961
@mortensen1961 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeepguy220: And the GMC Astro with the six-ton clutch. . . . .
@charlesgreer7641
@charlesgreer7641 4 жыл бұрын
I remember first time I took a load to Laredo back in about 2003. I dropped and reloaded there and as I was leaving town I took a wrong exit and all the sudden I looked around and my 280 inch wheelbase flat top pete was surrounded by cab overs. Behind me in front of me beside me. I said to my self where the hell did all these cab overs come from. A min later I looked up and just as I thought I was on wrong road. The boarder was ahead of me. When I got to the Mexican guard I said hey man I took a wrong exit I need to turn around. He said you dont want to go to mehico I said no I dont I want to go to Birmingham Alabama. He laughed and said ok. With that he shut the whole road down so I could do a flip and head back. That's a wrong turn I will never forget both due to the interaction with the cool boarder guard and being surrounded by cab overs.
@FatGuyInaTruck
@FatGuyInaTruck 4 жыл бұрын
There's also an absolute shit-ton of them bouncing around the Middle East...
@darnellsmith363
@darnellsmith363 4 жыл бұрын
I was just in Laredo last summer when I use to work for CR England
@kevinwheatcroft
@kevinwheatcroft 4 жыл бұрын
BJ McKay and his best friend Bear.... That's what I think about when I see these old cabovers.
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that red and white paint job and them Dallas Cowgirls Cheerleaders. My focus was equally divided between the truck, the chimp, and the girls. But I'm an OG Optimus Prime Transformer fan, deep down. The Japanese actually called him Convoy.
@joeday4293
@joeday4293 3 жыл бұрын
Or Carroll Jo Hummer in the Blue Mule, in "White Line Fever."
@mosman93
@mosman93 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeday4293 Same here!
@EatAPeach72
@EatAPeach72 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeday4293 AWESOME MOVIE JAN MICHEAL VINCENT
@junicohen7918
@junicohen7918 3 жыл бұрын
I think of profit
@Wilson632
@Wilson632 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 94 Freightliner 3-axle cabover. Detroit 11-1 power nine speed Eaton transmission from 1998 to 2009. Hauling Intermodal Freight. Although I drive a 2022 day cab Cascadia Freightliner automatic these days. That old cabover will never be forgotten. What a Workhorse wish I still had it
@aaronzeiger216
@aaronzeiger216 4 жыл бұрын
Its like climbing a grain bin getting in and out of them. Especially in the winter when the steps get covered in ice. Plus the high driver seating position makes them especially dangerous in a rollover. God forbid you have anything loose in the cab if you have to tilt the cab for maintenance. That alone makes them useless for OTR. You'd have to empty the fridge and secure everything not fastened down just do anything other than check the oil
@hankvinson5967
@hankvinson5967 4 жыл бұрын
Idk where you'd put a fridge in a cab over.
@aaronzeiger216
@aaronzeiger216 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Aerodyne had one but I could be wrong. Ive never had a truck without a fridge. They didn't always work though. Lol
@wesleycallison2079
@wesleycallison2079 4 жыл бұрын
I drove cab overs in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Don't miss them a bit!
@garydaltonolecountrymusic2711
@garydaltonolecountrymusic2711 3 жыл бұрын
Worst truck ever made. .Hot noisy and bumpy.. Nightmare driving long haul.
@rabbakahn
@rabbakahn 3 жыл бұрын
The only cabover I drove was a freakin rattle-trap. Damn thing was in really terrible shape. Even had the brakes go out on me once. Glad I didn't have to drive that for very long.
@kevinrichards3288
@kevinrichards3288 3 жыл бұрын
Also cabovers didn't have good enough protection between the driver & whatever was coming at him.
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 жыл бұрын
Modern Euro cabovers have suspended cabs + suspended seats. We hardly ever see US style longnose (torpedo front) trucks on European roads. 99,9% are cabovers.
@tactical_snails2198
@tactical_snails2198 3 жыл бұрын
@@garydaltonolecountrymusic2711 not anymore the fh40 is smooth comfortable and well cool
@shadygraves
@shadygraves 3 жыл бұрын
My old man bought a '63 Emeryville cabover once. He rebuilt it completely, from the ground up, and put a hoss of an engine in it. When he'd go across West Texas, through the desert Southwest, and into California, impressed drivers would come on the radio and ask what kind of power plant he had in that little thing. He called it his little 'Coup D'eville'!
@rkow8508
@rkow8508 3 жыл бұрын
The cab over gave a whole new meaning to being the first one on scene.
@wesbarcus3761
@wesbarcus3761 3 жыл бұрын
You mean first on scene of the accident. Bird's eye view as you fly out of the windshield.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesbarcus3761 only if you are not wearing a seatbelt
@wesbarcus3761
@wesbarcus3761 3 жыл бұрын
@@sepg5084 ever drive one? Even at 45 mph there is nothing, no motor, no frame rails between you and impact is a thin vertical sheet of fiberglass and part of a radiator. If you are driving, steering wheel, and windshield. Not saying they don't have a place in the industry, they do. Just that I almost lost my life when co driver drove off the road. Ended my driving career and left me permanently disabled
@scrappy93
@scrappy93 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesbarcus3761 😯
@wesbarcus3761
@wesbarcus3761 3 жыл бұрын
@@scrappy93 cabovers are great tools for city work where conditions get tight. But over the road, not very comfy. When it comes to being first to the wreck, that's true. I almost died because a co driver drove off the road into a ditch. Ended my driving career.
@stevec9580
@stevec9580 4 жыл бұрын
I drove cabover for years, and flat floor cabovers came into place in the 90s. So much easier to maneuver, and the ride wasn't nearly as bad as it's made out.
@kingjamesbiblebaptistmid-a8043
@kingjamesbiblebaptistmid-a8043 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you it was very informative
@aclark4144
@aclark4144 4 жыл бұрын
No truck mechanic misses cabovers!
@joecummings1260
@joecummings1260 4 жыл бұрын
As an almost 60 year old truck mechanic I totally agree. The only thing that was easy was clutch/transmission work, everything forward of that was a nightmare. And as a local truck they wore the drivers out. Lots of stops, lots of climbing.
@cargotoolshop5319
@cargotoolshop5319 4 жыл бұрын
@@joecummings1260 I get wore out climbing in and out of my Kenworth T600, I have a mechanical RGN, it puts you to work, over the road isn't bad, but local kills yah, move two or three pieces of equipment in one day and it's a lot of work
@genericwhitemale1114
@genericwhitemale1114 4 жыл бұрын
@@cargotoolshop5319 I love the look of the T600. What's it like to drive?
@eliaslundstedt5607
@eliaslundstedt5607 4 жыл бұрын
allow all of sweden to dissagree
@kevinrichards3288
@kevinrichards3288 4 жыл бұрын
@A Clark lol I bet having to tilt the whole cab forward just to get access to the motor unlike conventional cabs where you just open the hood.
@malcorub
@malcorub 4 жыл бұрын
In the late 80's, my dad drove a cab over. As a kid I remember my favorite spot to sit down on a cold drive was in the center in front of the sleeper over the engine. No seat belt of course because it was the 80s'
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 2 жыл бұрын
In 1991 I used to drive an 88 international cabover, over the road. I wanted to know why they quit using them? Thank you for this episode! 🇺🇸👍😎👍🇺🇸
@grantdanze5215
@grantdanze5215 4 жыл бұрын
While I love me a Pete needle nose, Cab-overs are badass and have a presence that demands respect.
@graysinclair6572
@graysinclair6572 4 жыл бұрын
Grant Danze I was a kid in the 70s and a cousin of mine who loved trucks(so did I) used the term needle nose! I realized in the trucking industry, that term probably got thrown around a lot, but not so much in mainstream conversation. Thanks for taking me back and confirming the nickname for those long front end Peterbilts.
@grantdanze5215
@grantdanze5215 4 жыл бұрын
@@graysinclair6572 Glad to hear! Keep on trucking my friend.
@379Pete
@379Pete 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the look of a badass Needle Nose.
@adriantomlin2902
@adriantomlin2902 4 жыл бұрын
I think so too!? They are unique.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, I always thought the "conventionals" were more badass, looking like they mean Business. Maybe that's just me being European and used to see nothing but cabovers.
@TheBeingReal
@TheBeingReal 4 жыл бұрын
Go to Europe. All cab overs. Nice rides and powerful.
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO ok.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 Do this with your Kennowort: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g528ZayQmqtgp7s
@hardrockminer-50
@hardrockminer-50 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Europe has much more rigid length rules. I saw a video clip of a Russian trucker colliding with some one and the driver came flying out of the truck right behind the winshield. He landed on his feet and ran down the road.
@patrikpolda
@patrikpolda 3 жыл бұрын
@@hardrockminer-50 That's Russia not Europe :D ;-)
@gruponisaacagrorealtyestat9197
@gruponisaacagrorealtyestat9197 3 жыл бұрын
But not safety
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my 1990 e7 powered mack cabover even though I have not driven full time for 15 years. Only truck I have ever owned. Now it is used for the occasional job for an entertainment company that uses a repurposed 45 foot refer to haul their sound and lighting equipment for a festival every year. And I pull a modified 5th wheel travel trailer with it the rest of the time.
@EricFortuneJr.
@EricFortuneJr. 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a new Scania cabover 2 years ago. It was a really good looking rig and the first I’d ever seen one in person. Didn’t know they sold them in the US. I’d most certainly like to see cabovers return to the US market. I’m sure with modern engineering and safety the ride quality would be ok.
@Halibrand
@Halibrand 4 жыл бұрын
Scania has been testing their trucks in the US for a while now, Scania is a part of the VW group which also owns abit of Navistar international, and together they are pushing to enter the US market in the future. Funny thing is that in Europe 99% of the trucks are flatnoses becouse of the length limits and narrow city streets but the European union are now looking to change the laws around maximum length to enable US style tractor to make a comeback.
@mrnordyk1125
@mrnordyk1125 4 жыл бұрын
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@mrnordyk1125
@mrnordyk1125 4 жыл бұрын
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@mrnordyk1125
@mrnordyk1125 4 жыл бұрын
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@Lafly84
@Lafly84 4 жыл бұрын
Used to deliver to a few places in Philly that were built long before the 53' trailer came into existence. Used to make decent money on the side backing trailers in for conventional drivers in my old 9670.
@jhnstn1
@jhnstn1 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. We spent a week touring Ireland in 2016 and I noticed one conventional long nose Kenworth and everything else was cab overs. A few had sleepers but they looked more like dog boxes than a full-size sleeper. The most out of place thing we saw that week was a yellow diesel Dodge power wagon on a sheep farm.
@donmccord
@donmccord 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 2 of the 96 k100e and a 1981 Pete 362 both Cummins powered I wouldn’t trade them for six new areo trucks my k100 gets around 7 mpg with a smile on my face and everyone who see’s me rolling down the road
@portnuefflyer
@portnuefflyer 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way they look, bad ass...., but aero dynamically they are a dead end, huge amounts of drag. Sitting directly over that front axle, has to give a rougher ride too.
@thomasbeck9075
@thomasbeck9075 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 and looking for more
@kennethfielder2371
@kennethfielder2371 4 жыл бұрын
The cab overs can still be beneficial here in the states. Since there are still limited space places that we truckers deliver to.
@LUNITICWILL
@LUNITICWILL 3 жыл бұрын
In-City driving is one of them.
@EatAPeach72
@EatAPeach72 3 жыл бұрын
@@LUNITICWILL Yes ,they use them at the labatt beer factory downtown here in london ontario canada to get the trailers in quick off the main road and around the yard tight spaces 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@eagleviewhd
@eagleviewhd 3 жыл бұрын
My first tractor trailer I drove was a USAF GMC cabover. It had fifteen speeds, un-synchronized transmission. That was back in the mid Eighties. First trip was from Norton AFB, Ca to McClellan AFB, CA.
@jerrysingleton6513
@jerrysingleton6513 4 жыл бұрын
You're partially correct on some of the reasons they have dissapeared. I've owned and driven 2 of them. They're easier to work on, get in and out of some impossibly tight places. Driver workman comp cases, lawsuits, and disability cases led to their demise. Driving through snow, sleet, and freezing rain will put you on the ground when you stop.
@justacinnamonbun8658
@justacinnamonbun8658 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know man.... Everytime my dad would take me on the road in a cabover I remember it felt like being a marble tossed around inside a box when you shake it. Whenever he drove a long nose it was a 100% more comfortable ride regardless of the make. It makes sense from an engineering standpoint if you look at how a cabover absorbs road shock vs. a long nose.
@michaelopere5424
@michaelopere5424 4 жыл бұрын
Cabovers trucks are the majority in most parts of the world.
@datadavis
@datadavis 4 жыл бұрын
Where people measure in metric.. better not tell them theres actually a world outside the u.s. they might get scared and bomb it
@youdamanyoudaman
@youdamanyoudaman 3 жыл бұрын
@@datadavis where?
@hesseldijkstra5327
@hesseldijkstra5327 3 жыл бұрын
@@youdamanyoudaman the rest of the world.
@ironhornforge
@ironhornforge 3 жыл бұрын
True but not in Australia, they overheat in our climate on long hauls
@jamessloanofficial
@jamessloanofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@youdamanyoudaman All of Europe and Asia. Africa and South America are a mix, but more COE than conventional. Australia has a lot of conventional tractors.
@robertcraig156
@robertcraig156 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my long wheelbase C.O.. all air ride suspension, cab and seat. Plus my dog had a good view also..
@timdodd3897
@timdodd3897 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when the Mississippi river was the dividing line. 65' / 55' I do believe.
@StonedPony1
@StonedPony1 4 жыл бұрын
And I remember when the states that ran along the miss had a weight law of 73,280 pounds as well. Ms, Ar, Il, and Mo. Tenn would write you a ticket for being over 2" over length for $121.00.
@brownh2orat211
@brownh2orat211 4 жыл бұрын
Wherever they went it isn't far enough away. I started out driving those things, obviously no one who is raving about them ever lived in one.
@brownh2orat211
@brownh2orat211 4 жыл бұрын
@Neil Van Zyl Ya, I've seen a lot of Cabovers when I worked in Africa. After starting out in a cabover and driving them for many years and then getting in a conventional tractor it's night and day when it comes to ride comfort and living quarters. Not to mention ease of working on the engine without jacking the entire cab up and all your belongings ending up on the windshield or trying to climb into one when everything is ice covered!
@ratman87100
@ratman87100 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt I put a million miles in them I'm paying the price for it now .......
@CCFONESOL
@CCFONESOL 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in one, and still miss them.
@joescheller6680
@joescheller6680 4 жыл бұрын
with power steering and air conditioning air ride suspension there is no difference
@joescheller6680
@joescheller6680 4 жыл бұрын
@@siamsamblue30041 listen to my staement i have millions of miles in the old cabovers the old conventionals werent any better no air ride no air conditioning no power steering
@donaldhausenfluck2200
@donaldhausenfluck2200 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cabovers I lovvem. South western ltl out of San antoon still had them when I drove there in 05. Run small and big sleepers internationals up and down to Memphis. Loved it to d max 😁🇳🇱🤘
@andrewterleckey9834
@andrewterleckey9834 4 жыл бұрын
Still around, they’re ideal hay haulers we got two and can go basically anywhere with them
@williamehringer8537
@williamehringer8537 4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who hauls logs and hay with his. He loves that truck.
@olvinyldude
@olvinyldude 4 жыл бұрын
What they use for here also..Ranch operations & such..beautiful machines still! I enjoyed the old Internationals, as well..have a 1935 IH
@jamesmilos9909
@jamesmilos9909 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! I could get our IHC 9800 with a spread axle drop deck in and out of hay lots a conventional never could. Much shorter functional wheelbase.
@olvinyldude
@olvinyldude 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmilos9909 Yes, and so much easier backing 53'
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 4 жыл бұрын
Back in their "hay day" 📉 😎 📈
@markfreckmann2366
@markfreckmann2366 4 жыл бұрын
I have a very fond memory of a cab over. When I was a kid my neighbor who was a very good family friend. Let me go for a haul from Milwaukee area to St Louis in his Freightliner cab over. I still remember alot of that trip. RIP Joe miss ya my friend.
@7viewerlogic670
@7viewerlogic670 4 жыл бұрын
They were fun to ride in when you were a kid, felt like being on top of the world!
@markfreckmann2366
@markfreckmann2366 4 жыл бұрын
It was around 1980. I don't know what Route we took. I doubt it was Rt 66 though.
@markfreckmann2366
@markfreckmann2366 4 жыл бұрын
@catmodelt Joe the neighbor was only one of a few independents that drove for Quad Graphics, at that time. I remember we stayed at a truck stop in Illinois looking at the arch. During the night got a knock on the door. Joe answered the door to hear a woman say " I'm bored". Joe said " I can't help you with that. Closed the door and said something about a lot lizard. Lol. Unloaded not far after crossing the bridge into St Louis.
@dtom3792
@dtom3792 3 жыл бұрын
I got to drive one of these in a circle on a huge gravel lot when I was 5. I'll never forget that memory.
@JohnSmith-cf4gn
@JohnSmith-cf4gn 3 жыл бұрын
As a retired truck driver who started out driving cabovers, my opinion is that conventionals and automatic transmissions is just a way to deball the trucking industry.
@sindyk1000
@sindyk1000 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80s and 90s as a diesel mechanic I love working on the cabovers easy to work on you had that air system risers and the hand pumps to get the cabover easy to get to all the engine components I mostly worked on the mack Ultra liners for Ryder truck system
@manuelreyes4600
@manuelreyes4600 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this beautiful video it's ecxelent
@martybowen1
@martybowen1 4 жыл бұрын
It seem's it would still make sense to use cab over's for city route's.
@dtvjho
@dtvjho 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Roads in PA are notorious for tight turns with the general lack of shoulders and turn arrows/lanes.
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for informing me. I always wondered where the "forward control" COE went, having seen fewer and fewer of them on the I roads and elsewhere. I do see some though as heavy duty tow trucks and as smaller applications like garbage trucks. They are clearly not any longer for long distance use.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 3 жыл бұрын
I had an American friend come over a couple of years ago. She was amazed to see Cab overs here in the UK. It took her a while to grasp the concept. (She drove trucks in the USA)
@archon4412
@archon4412 4 жыл бұрын
Try driving one on a very bumpy road, Not much fun when you're sitting on the steering axle...ouch!
@brett7801
@brett7801 4 жыл бұрын
Not if you're driving a euro.
@glennso47
@glennso47 4 жыл бұрын
Archon 441 Between Morrison, to Mt. Carroll, Illinois.
@bill1682
@bill1682 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why the seat is on air suspension
@paulnewkirk7351
@paulnewkirk7351 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention frostbite on the toes when in 20 below temps.
@larsradtke4097
@larsradtke4097 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulnewkirk7351 tell that to to the guys in Sweden. Or Norway. Or Finland or Russia.
@jacksonmarshallkramer5087
@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect that when they're loaded down they ride fine, it's when the trailer is empty or bob tailing that it gets bouncy.
@Quacks0
@Quacks0 3 жыл бұрын
3:05 Wow --- look how slowly that "penny" counter is turning as the fuel is being pumped! I remember as a child seeing the "cents" counter going around only just slightly faster than I could read it, and the "dime" counter going, "flip.... flip... flip..." Nowadays --- on the few gas pumps that still have mechanical measuring displays --- the "penny" counter absolutely whizzes around like mad, and the "dime" counter does a frenetically-rapid, "flip-flip-flip-flip-flip-flip". Times they are a-changin', eh???
@garykocker5785
@garykocker5785 4 жыл бұрын
Starting to see a few more cabovers come back to life here lately! My guess is the ELDs. Got to ride in a GMC Astro and K100 Kenworth with my father then my first trucking job I drove one of his old K100s how awesome.
@FunkyMonk4Life
@FunkyMonk4Life 4 жыл бұрын
It's the absolute worst riding truck I've ever been in. You feel every single bump in the road and, God forbid, you hit a pothole. You will find your head in the ceiling. I appreciate the turn radius, they're very maneuverable, but ride quality kills it for me. Sitting on top of the axle is brutal. Feel free to disagree, that's just my take.
@mortensen1961
@mortensen1961 4 жыл бұрын
Twenty-nine years after my last day in a cabover, my bladder still reminds me of just how bad their rides were. . . .
@zeke7142003
@zeke7142003 4 жыл бұрын
My dad is paying the price of 30 years in cabovers. His back is shot.
@kleimbach77
@kleimbach77 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@matthewholwell8206
@matthewholwell8206 4 жыл бұрын
European cab overs are way better in just about every respect which makes driving a conventional even a short nose like mack trident a bitch
@mrelmachete68
@mrelmachete68 4 жыл бұрын
@Stevie Blue specially in the olders coe's, at least the last ones had a flat floors
@DireNeeds
@DireNeeds 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. In my early teens I was quite the enthusiast, was going to be a trucker. A bright shiny COE was going to take me across the country, take me everywhere.
@kevinjohnson7693
@kevinjohnson7693 3 жыл бұрын
I see cabovers occasionally and love to see them as a trucker myself.
@richardsmith1331
@richardsmith1331 3 жыл бұрын
At Schneider we had a female driver that was the best I have ever seen. Another driver couldn't get a set of doubles in a building. The female driver dropped her trailer and backed the doubles in like nobody's business.
@normanbrunt2053
@normanbrunt2053 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK, I believe that their cab-overs have suspension on the cab and seats. Seems like the answer to an uncomfortable drive.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, modern cabovers are light-years more advanced than the ones depicted in this video.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
Ford added air suspension for the cab with their cab-over-engine LC9000 of 1976 - it's now common, and wasn't in traditional COEs, but it's not new.
@Coyote1473
@Coyote1473 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the cabovers maneuverability n tight spots!
@brainwashingdetergent4322
@brainwashingdetergent4322 3 жыл бұрын
As a Yankee I had the pleasure of driving a cabover for a few years! 2007-2010
@wendellcallihan5341
@wendellcallihan5341 3 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of fond memories of driving the "Buster Brown" cabovers in the late '80's, early '90's. No sleeper, no power steering, 5 speed wet clutch pulling empty doubles out there on the super slab covered in black ice at night. Maximum pucker factor.
@raysmetaltracks6782
@raysmetaltracks6782 4 жыл бұрын
As a kid, nothing better in the world than climbing up those steps, grabbing that big steering wheel and pulling myself into that seat. Doesnt matter how hold, or what condition they are in - I think cabovers are just awesome.
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209
@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct, I wasn't a kid but it's a feeling i will never forget. And the feeling was GOD HATES me!
@robertforester5220
@robertforester5220 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldschoollgearjammerlongmi5209 ö
@wcody777
@wcody777 3 жыл бұрын
Starting in 1973, I drove long-haul for REA out of Chicago. The tractors were all cabovers. There were White Freightliners, GMCs, Fords and Mack Maxidynes. I hauled both 40-footers and twin 27-footers (we called them double bottoms). I've never driven a conventional tractor, but those cabovers were very maneuverable, both in traffic and (especially) backing into a dock between two other already docked semis. And since the seat of my pants was 15 feet off the ground, I had a birds-eye view of the traffic. The ride was definitely rough, and it eventually took a toll on my back. But still, if I had my druthers today, I'd choose a cabover.
@Stahodad
@Stahodad 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid we read a few"Overdrive" magazines from that Era. Cool rigs for sure. 😎
@shanenorton664
@shanenorton664 3 жыл бұрын
My 98fl112 will turn circles inside my 83 KW cabover. Don't know where all of this manueverablity stuff comes from.
@garymiedema642
@garymiedema642 3 жыл бұрын
I recently returned from two years in South Africa, where I traveled much of the country, and never saw a conventional tractor. All cabovers.
@thesillypig785
@thesillypig785 4 жыл бұрын
Let's start a fire: a American 'conventional truck' is a struggle to drive in Europe due to it's size and many blindspots, while a Euro truck in the US would do just fine. Anyway: that Freightliner at 6:55 is a pretty goodlooking truck.
@mwhitelaw8569
@mwhitelaw8569 4 жыл бұрын
There's no fire to start man After being over there a few times I wouldn't even attempt driving a conventional there. And yeah the blind spots are there, but you get used to them. I do miss the turning radius of cabovers , but that's about all I miss. See Only a flesh wound Cheers!!!
@jspringer1978
@jspringer1978 3 жыл бұрын
A cabover from the EU would die a lonely death trying to haul a trailer over the Great Plains at 140kph and then up and over the Rocky Mountains.
@jimjonrs3932
@jimjonrs3932 4 жыл бұрын
All the old schnieder and jb hunt ones went to Mexico and Russia.
@JohnSmith-if4uy
@JohnSmith-if4uy 4 жыл бұрын
Kuwait and Iraq also
@fatlarry1184
@fatlarry1184 4 жыл бұрын
All over Guatemala mostly running port containers.
@gregw8232
@gregw8232 4 жыл бұрын
A good place for them. Hated them.
@slowmo338
@slowmo338 4 жыл бұрын
I drove a cab over with Schneider. Maybe about 6 months. Good turning radius, that's it.
@nnndddzzz1
@nnndddzzz1 4 жыл бұрын
and sudan and Zimbabwe
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