Where do atoms come from?

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Sabine Hossenfelder

Sabine Hossenfelder

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@mattbland2380
@mattbland2380 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t trust atoms, they make up everything 🤣
@eugen10min
@eugen10min 3 жыл бұрын
fake news, they make up maybe 3% of everything? Sabine Hossenfelder would you care to elaborate?
@lukabc31
@lukabc31 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugen10min what is the remaining 97%? And is not everything made of that?
@GeoffreyFeldmanMA
@GeoffreyFeldmanMA 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugen10min Let me elaborate for YOU! Declaring "Fake News" without a single testable statement merely means that you are proud of your lack of curiosity. You have nothing at all to share and no reason why you believe it. You simply haven't bothered to even attend to what she said or think about it at all. No wonder you are ashamed to identify yourself with an actual name.
@GeoffreyFeldmanMA
@GeoffreyFeldmanMA 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukabc31 - Asking questions without any effort to look for information is inane!
@rickharriss
@rickharriss 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugen10min She wouldn't say it if it wasn't true or at least the best theory available.
@DrakiniteOfficial
@DrakiniteOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I love about your presentation style is that you demonstrate that you don't need to be super energetic in order to be interesting. Your passion for what you're talking about speaks for itself, and it makes your videos really engaging and interesting to watch.
@area51z63
@area51z63 3 жыл бұрын
Actually she makes up stuff as she babbles and fools like you have no clue
@FantasticPyroclastic
@FantasticPyroclastic 3 жыл бұрын
@@charles-y2z6c You talk about the supreme creator called Human who invented many Gods™ for everyone's joy and pleasure? :D
@ktaeoh
@ktaeoh 3 жыл бұрын
@@charles-y2z6c science is an explanation of how God made the universe, if I said that the sky was blue and then started to explain why using science, would you just ignore everything because it "makes ner dayum seyense to me"? Because "God exists", no science is right?
@ktaeoh
@ktaeoh 3 жыл бұрын
@@charles-y2z6c you have a masters in comp sci from cornell and you think science is fake? 'nuff said
@charles-y2z6c
@charles-y2z6c 3 жыл бұрын
@@ktaeoh Who said I think science is fake? You should get an education yourself, you speak and comprehend poorly. Is that you singing "Joe Biden"
@WhoDoUthinkUr
@WhoDoUthinkUr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos. As an middle aged man who never had the resources for an Education I have learned so much. Best thing about KZbin so much to learn.
@MrElvis1971
@MrElvis1971 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Hope you are well and happy one year later.
@VideosfromNH
@VideosfromNH 3 жыл бұрын
One atom said to another atom, "I think I lost an electron." The second atom asked, "Are you sure?" The first atom replied, "I'm positive."
@thevendetta9726
@thevendetta9726 3 жыл бұрын
uugh...
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 3 жыл бұрын
I have that joke on a t-shirt
@paulbaker2097
@paulbaker2097 3 жыл бұрын
A Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest says "We don't want your sort here!". The Higgs Boson replies "But Father, you can't have mass without me."
@adamchurvis1
@adamchurvis1 3 жыл бұрын
I am simultaneously laughing and beating myself with a baseball bat.
@adamchurvis1
@adamchurvis1 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulbaker2097 STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY!!!
@IO23777
@IO23777 3 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen: A colourless reactive gas; which left alone for long enough turns into people.
@danyael777
@danyael777 3 жыл бұрын
XDD Very good one!
@davemuckeye
@davemuckeye 3 жыл бұрын
… some say…
@lorenzo5749
@lorenzo5749 3 жыл бұрын
It goes bad like yougurt
@zvuho
@zvuho 3 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzo5749 or like in Breaking Bad
@lorenzo5749
@lorenzo5749 3 жыл бұрын
@@zvuhoYou say there must have been a time where self assembling molecules would produce methanphetamines, life always finds a way, right?
@seanferguson5460
@seanferguson5460 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is the first time I've heard a thorough explanation of how heavier elements are created.
@adamchurvis1
@adamchurvis1 3 жыл бұрын
"Daddy? Where do atoms come from?" "Son, it's time we had 'The Talk.' You see, when a Proton and a Neutron love each other very, very much, they share a sort of... 'hug...'"
@ferretappreciator
@ferretappreciator 3 жыл бұрын
You must be as clear as possible to avoid confusion! The protons and neutrons don't love each other, they just really don't want to be alone!
@quimicoz
@quimicoz 3 жыл бұрын
Neutrons don't reproduce. They all have been neutered.
@adamchurvis1
@adamchurvis1 3 жыл бұрын
@@quimicoz "...and with that, the Board of Governors of the Nobel Foundation, under warrant from King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, unanimously voted Asdrubal Arraes the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize..."
@danniles5256
@danniles5256 3 жыл бұрын
lol good one
@7devils666
@7devils666 3 жыл бұрын
“So what makes up protons and neutrons daddy?” You see this doesn’t actually answer the question.
@claaaaams
@claaaaams 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I have to readjust my knowledge. I heard over and over that heavier elements were created in supernovae. Almost religiously. It's a bit weird to hear that's changed now. Thank you
@rodnorris9532
@rodnorris9532 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they were so confident while they were explaining to us how the universe works. Makes you wonder what else they got wrong.
@NoelArmourson
@NoelArmourson 3 жыл бұрын
It is all speculation.
@user-ff1ws1sf2u
@user-ff1ws1sf2u 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodnorris9532 It makes you wonder what else there is to know, not what else "they got wrong", we always get things wrong in science, that doesn't mean that clearly provable science should be disregarded just because 'well they got that one thing wrong before..' Not sure if you were going down that route, this is just in case you are.
@BillPalmer
@BillPalmer 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know where the neutron star was that blew up and gave us all the dirt and material that made the solar system
@sarenareth689
@sarenareth689 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's science, when they discover something new they re-adjust their knowledge, so it's always improving and never degrading. (Cue the religious fundamentalist saying: "see science gets all kinds of stuff wrong, trust in my skydaddy instead" )
@douglasgranrath6931
@douglasgranrath6931 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered and subscribed to your channel. The level at which you explain physics really works for me. You are providing a very important service by explaining a mathematically heavy subject to the general public. Thanks!
@WistrelChianti
@WistrelChianti 3 жыл бұрын
It was only a few years ago I was in a lecture where they said the heavier elements came from supernovae. The fact that we've since revised that blows my mind. Kinda crazy to think that we are living in a time where we still don't know where stuff around us comes from. Also, reading that abstract... it's just incredible that we not only detected the gravitational wave from a collision, but then were able to actually find it based on that data, and analyse the light coming from it to detect the presence of elements.... amazing!
@Sitarow
@Sitarow 3 жыл бұрын
Production quality on this video is great! Thank you for all that you do.
@SabineHossenfelder
@SabineHossenfelder 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@reasonerenlightened2456
@reasonerenlightened2456 3 жыл бұрын
​@@SabineHossenfelder Early Universe is such a confusing place, because many stuff seem to appear "out of thin air" like high temperature, and insane amount of Energy'? ... Are we talking here about the 'Boltzmann brain" effect in relation to the sudden insane amount of Energy out of nothing? The Big Bang feels like a consequence of something else?
@jocelyns5331
@jocelyns5331 3 жыл бұрын
@@SabineHossenfelder வணக்கம்
@brianpj5860
@brianpj5860 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, I just got so excited when hearing Sabine say “Island of Stability” PHYSICS!!!!!!
@didierborne166
@didierborne166 3 жыл бұрын
Fawning is so unscientific.
@guspecunia5887
@guspecunia5887 3 жыл бұрын
Sabine is a thirst trap!!
@ANDROLOMA
@ANDROLOMA 3 жыл бұрын
Gilligan lived on a similar Island of Stability. Until the ratings began to drop.
@PraiseDog
@PraiseDog 3 жыл бұрын
This is now my favorite youtube channel. She is a really good communicator, I like her presentation. I see that a lot of other people shared my experience with her channel, you have to watch a few of them and then your appreciation level of her really kicks into gear.
@diqweezle9751
@diqweezle9751 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite professor! I've noticed you've leveled up your production lately. Loving it. :-)
@patrickmclaughlin6013
@patrickmclaughlin6013 3 жыл бұрын
... and then she pops out one of those music videos ??
@reasonerenlightened2456
@reasonerenlightened2456 3 жыл бұрын
The big Bang believers neve explain, How can something so young be so hot? Where did all that heat come from in such a short time? They just seem to invoke the Boltzmann's brain-like theory of existence, namely, the Insane heat popped out of nothing spontaneously and created all things.????????? Looks like a religion to me.
@ferretappreciator
@ferretappreciator 3 жыл бұрын
@@reasonerenlightened2456 just because we don't have a specific answer right now doesn't mean it's not real. The evidence we have for a hot, dense, early universe is nigh undeniable. plus, we have do have a few theories, like quantum uncertainty. Maybe if you used the energy the universe gave your brain you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself
@FarnhamJ07
@FarnhamJ07 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I really love the sounds effects you use. They're kitsch in an great kinda way! The rest of the video is pretty darn good as always too; thanks for making it!
@JoJoGunn1956
@JoJoGunn1956 3 жыл бұрын
The sounds reek of Lowest Common Denominator.
@raymondwarth2359
@raymondwarth2359 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. I have been having my 13 year old Grandson watch some of your videos as we study chemistry. Your are very clear and to the point.
@johnmc67
@johnmc67 3 жыл бұрын
I love international cooperation! The Detroiter (me), learning about the universe from a German (U), and a Russian (Anton Petrov)!
@jthunders
@jthunders 3 жыл бұрын
Fenkell and Wyoming here
@BigDsGaming2022
@BigDsGaming2022 3 жыл бұрын
Anton and her do make a good pair .
@jthunders
@jthunders 3 жыл бұрын
@TCL Or accumulated disinformation if you prefer.
@sjpeckham1
@sjpeckham1 3 жыл бұрын
Petrov is also great! Such outstanding sources of education
@davidverville2021
@davidverville2021 3 жыл бұрын
Anton is not Russian
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really enjoy how well Sabine explains the concepts. And that she points out the limits of our understanding and where scientists may disagree.
@srussifordwilliams
@srussifordwilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously the only channel on youtube that actually gives you everything you want to know
@girlofanimation
@girlofanimation 3 жыл бұрын
Science videos have replaced bedtime stories for me. This time, I stayed up all night and finally made the (somewhat) early squad.
@kylestanley4734
@kylestanley4734 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@squarerootof2
@squarerootof2 3 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting she's telling fairy tales?
@DavidHenderson1
@DavidHenderson1 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I've been finding myself listening when it's time for bed. With bedtime stories, I always worry I'll miss something, but science videos don't require knowledge of linear timelines, so it's okay to doze off.
@parthabanerjee1234
@parthabanerjee1234 3 жыл бұрын
You should try listening to Feynman's lectures while falling asleep, if you haven't yet tried.
@parthabanerjee1234
@parthabanerjee1234 3 жыл бұрын
@Undead Legionnaire , not at all. On the contrary, it lets the mind wander and wonder, play with geometric and logical models in his Kopfkino, imagine, reason, find the connections between physical entities, deduce relations, make guesses, feel elated and eventually - exhausted. It makes the brain tired rather soon. One sleeps well.
@IbnBahtuta
@IbnBahtuta 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to listen to someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
@StaunchSoldier
@StaunchSoldier 3 жыл бұрын
How do we know that for sure .
@argosron9838
@argosron9838 3 жыл бұрын
She was there at the big bang, she took videos !
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams 3 жыл бұрын
Their?! I only saw one person talking, and since she is female, she should be called "she."
@ozthaisurprise
@ozthaisurprise 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Creepy Joe know what he is talking about? NUP
@ricardomaggiore5518
@ricardomaggiore5518 3 жыл бұрын
And the smooth voice?
@vickiezaccardo1711
@vickiezaccardo1711 Жыл бұрын
This channel is addictive. I finish a video and think I'm going to maybe sign- out of you tube or watch something else, then another of Sabine's videos pops- up and I click. The ' but what about before that?' drives me nuts.
@kevinmclin8263
@kevinmclin8263 3 жыл бұрын
That was excellent, Dr. Hossenfelder. It is truly amazing that all the matter we see around us is composed of merely three ingredients, and that nearly all the atoms in the periodic table are created as a result of stars and their evolution. That totally blew my mind when I was ten years old. It still does, almost fifty years later.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
3 things is all systems need so to be a system.
@allahspreadshate6486
@allahspreadshate6486 3 жыл бұрын
I still get amused that, given that atoms are almost entirety empty space, you and I are mostly nothing (or did I get my physics/chemistry wrong, again).
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@allahspreadshate6486 Atoms are mostly empty space as they clame, but realy what they see as empty is the power of expantion that atoms have, is not hard to see that if we see atoms just like stars, stars make some kind of fields that come from the core to the edge of the sun or the sphere, they keep on going by levels as the first asteroid belt, then second asteroid belt and keep on and on to the point that this halos overslap with the other stars halos so to interchange energy one to the other as needed. - Atoms must to be about the same so the emptines is filled with pure electromagnetism in between atoms just like stars must,
@ldbarthel
@ldbarthel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sabine! This is the first time I encountered the revision from supernovae to neutron star collision as the primary mechanism for the heavier elements. But then, t's only been about 4 decades since I took nuclear physics and nuclear physics lab....
@061banyon
@061banyon 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video! I´m a science teacher and I have always taught that the heavier nuclei are created in supernovae. So this video will help me make the proper adjustments to my teaching! Keep it up!
@Mickolas21928
@Mickolas21928 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining it simply and plainly. This channel is a gift.
@arleneryman50
@arleneryman50 3 жыл бұрын
This lady is a gift.
@patrickmclaughlin6013
@patrickmclaughlin6013 3 жыл бұрын
Zabine is like good whisky, it takes a little while to get used to and then you find yourself guzzling a bottle a day.
@Allyballybean
@Allyballybean 3 жыл бұрын
And then you end up in rehab...?
@JMDinOKC
@JMDinOKC 3 жыл бұрын
Not whisky. Schnapps, maybe.
@Brian.001
@Brian.001 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the addictive nature of whisky - it's a lot to do with the alcohol concentration making it so easy to get through. I'm trying to find something parallel to say about Sabine, but I can't. She is a sweetheart.
@___Chris___
@___Chris___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@JMDinOKC Frühstückskorn.
@ablebaker8664
@ablebaker8664 3 жыл бұрын
is there a 12 step support group?
@TeamHarrisonMachine
@TeamHarrisonMachine 3 жыл бұрын
This was the absolute best scientific tutorial I ever watched. All those PBS tutorials are confusing, esoteric and useless for lay people. She made everything relatable, interesting and digestible from the first bite. Love this video and will watch anything she has to teach
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I like many of the shows where she debunks some of the more outlandish topics that pass for science shows.
@2msvalkyrie529
@2msvalkyrie529 3 жыл бұрын
Yes , it's " relatable " but it's also unverified in many respects . Her hypotheses may be right though experience suggests they ( eventually ) will be surpassed by others in future.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 3 жыл бұрын
@@2msvalkyrie529 I have seen many other shows, some from PBS, that claim that some elements were created via neutron star collisions.
@matthsini
@matthsini 3 жыл бұрын
today, I learned that heavy elements come from neutron star merger, instead of supernovae. Thanks Sabine
@hv3115
@hv3115 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you.. but what use of that is it to you?
@djungledjinn1520
@djungledjinn1520 3 жыл бұрын
@@hv3115 Sometimes it's just good to know stuff. For no reason other than curiosity and the desire to know more about the world.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
to me the neutron is made by the proton and electron so it has both charges a thing ables the neutron to give or take energy as needed by the system.
@matthsini
@matthsini 3 жыл бұрын
@@hv3115 No use for me except updating my knowledge. But there is a use of writting it : youtube algorithm ;-)
@Milos-Stankovic
@Milos-Stankovic 3 жыл бұрын
@@hv3115 Because now we finally know how nothing explode and made everything! Yes, we all know chicken exist before egg. But in the same time people don't want to give up theirs cherish sinful lifestyle. That is why people want to hear lies.
@sjpeckham1
@sjpeckham1 3 жыл бұрын
I am now binge watching all of your excellent videos Sabine; keep them coming!
@IllyaLeonovMorganFreepony
@IllyaLeonovMorganFreepony 3 жыл бұрын
I listen to numerous KZbin videos on a number of subjects. One of the most important elements is having a good listenable voice. Sabine has that. I could listen to her videos all day. Excellent explanations, wonderful audio.
@lajvedsies
@lajvedsies 3 жыл бұрын
I really love to watch every video that you make it motivates me a lot ! Thank you for your work !
@timhourigan6257
@timhourigan6257 3 жыл бұрын
Ihre Videos werden sehr geschätzt und sind sehr hilfreich! Danke sehr!
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Ms. Sabine I loved your video. That's it. Never before have I heard such a smooth-clear-crisp explanation of such an arbitrary random and difficult topic. Hats off... Sincerely.
@Weissenschenkel
@Weissenschenkel 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the heavier elements being created by the collision of two neutron stars! Up to this day I thought there was enough heavy elements just from one supernova's collapsing at a time. Thank you for sharing! ❤️
@bernardedwards8461
@bernardedwards8461 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that a collision of neutron stars is an extremely rare event, and would result in a black hole. WE need a much more common event to provide all the gas and dust we see in space, and novae and supernovae fill the bill.
@jimmyzhao9748
@jimmyzhao9748 3 жыл бұрын
I would say a good joke but all the good ones Argon.
@BillPalmer
@BillPalmer 3 жыл бұрын
Noble joke for sure
@marionlacebal9498
@marionlacebal9498 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@MrPokerblot
@MrPokerblot 3 жыл бұрын
very cornwalium
@billmarrison9090
@billmarrison9090 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take a Neon that joke.
@brucemarrs2596
@brucemarrs2596 3 жыл бұрын
Hypnotic. I follow intently for the first few minutes, then find myself watching her face and hands, and listening to the music of her voice. Then catch myself, back up, and work on understanding again.
@rafaelfcf
@rafaelfcf 3 жыл бұрын
This was the most thorough explanation I've seen on it. What about how energy BECOMES matter next??????
@patricklincoln5942
@patricklincoln5942 3 жыл бұрын
@@1godonlyone119 Spritual? That word is b.s. There is nothing spiritualout there.
@rafaelfcf
@rafaelfcf 3 жыл бұрын
@@patricklincoln5942 it's a troll!
@patricklincoln5942
@patricklincoln5942 3 жыл бұрын
@@rafaelfcf: Strange. Surprised someone would troll the comments section of this video.
@patricklincoln5942
@patricklincoln5942 3 жыл бұрын
@@1godonlyone119: I have gotten to know that you are a troll. What say you? Are you guilty of being this non-human magical being?
@rafaelfcf
@rafaelfcf 3 жыл бұрын
@@patricklincoln5942 Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha
@lindsayforbes7370
@lindsayforbes7370 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of one of the most amazing stories of the Big Bang. Big Bang nucleosynthesis to neutron star collision in a few minutes. Dare I say it's beautiful 🙊
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thought I knew everything about nuclear synthesis, but Sabine had somethings new. Valid, understandable and plaesant to hear, and look.
@project.eutopia
@project.eutopia 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn't know that the supernova origin of heavy nuclei was no longer the accepted theory, replaced by neuron star mergers instead. Thanks!
@enterprisesoftwarearchitect
@enterprisesoftwarearchitect 3 жыл бұрын
It may have been just in 2020, that’s when I saw it written first.
@Airwave2k2
@Airwave2k2 3 жыл бұрын
Golden Boy moment - learn something new every day. Well see ya in 50 years when this is absolute too
@justinkennedy3004
@justinkennedy3004 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting counter theory is proposed by P.M. Robataille's (sp?) Sky Scholar channel here on yt. Long story kinda short (i.e. missing vital context!) he makes a very technical argument that the sun has an actual surface and fusion is helped along by condensed matter lattices. Dont argument from authority me here but he was the developer of the first high resolution MRI or something. Just saying he's not an idiot.
@jackmcmillan8854
@jackmcmillan8854 3 жыл бұрын
Supernova nucleosynthesis is STILL the accepted theory. Supernovae are common enough (about 1 per century) in galaxies to explain cosmic abundances we see. Neutron star mergers would be incredibly rare, so that's just simply NOT a viable model.
@project.eutopia
@project.eutopia 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a good reference for the neuron star merger nucleosynthesis theory arxiv.org/abs/1710.02142? In the abstract they state that half of heavy elements beyond Fe, and most beyond Pb are produced in neuron star mergers. That means that both might still be important processes for heavy element production, unless I am reading it incorrectly.
@jimbo33
@jimbo33 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sabine, it's always a pleasure to watch and learn from your videos.
@TheGrifter62
@TheGrifter62 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sabine, that really helped me to understand how heavier elements are formed
@paulwharton1850
@paulwharton1850 3 жыл бұрын
You really are truly the BEST ! I've learnt so much because of you. Many thanks x
@glynemartin
@glynemartin 3 жыл бұрын
so now you know where elementary particles come from. Correct?
@kensmith174
@kensmith174 3 жыл бұрын
🥰 I love your videos Sabine. Easy to listen to, and even easier to watch.
@cindylawrence1515
@cindylawrence1515 3 жыл бұрын
Easier to watch?.....
@stephanieparker1250
@stephanieparker1250 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this would be a typical high school classroom video about atoms.. I should know better by now that your videos are never that simple! I learned stuff, thank you! 🙌
@illogicmath
@illogicmath 3 жыл бұрын
These are the most interesting and educational physics videos on youtube.
@Jibbie49
@Jibbie49 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Don Lincoln of Fermilab channel is also very easy to understand in his talks, as is Anton Petrov on his channel.
@illogicmath
@illogicmath 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jibbie49 surely they are but I prefer the sometimes irreverent style of Sabine.
@chrisyu98
@chrisyu98 3 жыл бұрын
She should have started off with "when a proton and neutron love each other very much....."
@EyeOfMemes
@EyeOfMemes 3 жыл бұрын
A fairy knows as electromagnetic force lands and put up an atom baby
@bernardedwards8461
@bernardedwards8461 3 жыл бұрын
The simplest atoms don't have neutrons.
@robertbeaman5761
@robertbeaman5761 3 жыл бұрын
Brown Chicken Brown Cow
@timontherocks7521
@timontherocks7521 3 жыл бұрын
Are you aware that would lead to polyarmory?
@jasonwiley798
@jasonwiley798 6 ай бұрын
They overcome their natural repulsion of each other. Thus the magic of the strong force of love.
@stwheel
@stwheel Жыл бұрын
Brilliant and succinct. My prior understanding (from watching Brian Cox) was that the heavier elements were formed in supernovae. But now I learn that that's likely not to be the case and that colliding neutron stars are the likely source. Which is mind-blowing in itself.
@eljcd
@eljcd 3 жыл бұрын
Folks, with this video Sabime has reached the 2000!! posts in her blog, backreaction, after 15!! years. I think congratulations are in order...
@steiner1940
@steiner1940 3 жыл бұрын
President produce more all the tra a than all the elements
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 3 жыл бұрын
thats almost enough videos to create a heavy element!
@knarf_on_a_bike
@knarf_on_a_bike 3 жыл бұрын
So when Joni Mitchell sang, "We are stardust, Billion year old carbon," she was singing about Rapid Neutron Capture? Cool!
@loki6626
@loki6626 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw her say in an interview that she couldn't work that into the song.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, because carbon is made by regular stellar nuclear fusion. It'd be that way if he sang to gold... or even bitconium maybe.
@knarf_on_a_bike
@knarf_on_a_bike 3 жыл бұрын
@@LuisAldamiz oddly enough, she mentions gold in the next line: "We are stardust Billion year old carbon We are golden Caught in the devil's bargain" Hmmm. . . 😉
@arthurargalis6805
@arthurargalis6805 3 жыл бұрын
great song!
@Bash_Minimal
@Bash_Minimal 3 жыл бұрын
joni knows
@markuk8253
@markuk8253 3 ай бұрын
@Sabina ... the graph at 7:47 has the x & y axis labels transposed -- the x should be neutrons, and y should be protons. But I still love you!
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 2 ай бұрын
"But I still love you" -- 😅happy to hear that, me too!
@parthabanerjee1234
@parthabanerjee1234 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a beautifully crafted illustration of the process of creation and evolution of atom. I always look forward to Dr. Hossenfelder's explanations.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
her way. which does not mean she is totally right.
@parthabanerjee1234
@parthabanerjee1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace , idiots would find her explanations to be opinions. The world is full of idiots.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@parthabanerjee1234 so then you eat all she says as food for youre braine?
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@parthabanerjee1234 STILL what you told me in my video is still is Q1 BEHAVIOR, anlist say athing you are not in acordance with in my vido LIGHT DEFFRACTION PRODUCES GRAVITY of my channel so anlist we may feed each other, other wise is a waste of time for you and my self.
@parthabanerjee1234
@parthabanerjee1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace What?
@keithstropp4551
@keithstropp4551 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for educating the public and myself!
@toddcalloway7243
@toddcalloway7243 3 жыл бұрын
You are so awesome. Shared the video with my daughter...she wants to be a marine biologist. You make understanding it effortless.. thank you
@X5493-c7p
@X5493-c7p 3 жыл бұрын
Carl Sagan’s Cosmos taught me we are star stuff from supernova, but new data shows that it’s from collisions of neutron stars that created the majority of heavy elements that are needed for life. If Carl was still with us I’d like to think that he would think that was way cooler than a mere supernova:-)
@tommytan7408
@tommytan7408 3 жыл бұрын
It's like listening to my grandma preaching me about astrophysics. I love it and I miss her so much!
@danieljust295
@danieljust295 3 жыл бұрын
She didn’t tell you that God created the so called universe ?
@yiggeryogger5235
@yiggeryogger5235 3 жыл бұрын
@@danieljust295 something created the universe but it was not god in a monotheist sense
@Vikermajit
@Vikermajit 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. It was enlightening. I wish I had science teachers like you, back in school.
@64north20west
@64north20west 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of research that she discusses in this video is mind-boggling.
@SirHefferlot581
@SirHefferlot581 3 жыл бұрын
Her talkin pace is a bit too high. Eigther she makes a little pause here and there or we need more cooldownreduction...
@0redthunder0
@0redthunder0 3 жыл бұрын
Sabine, you and your videos are amazing!
@taco_nut8681
@taco_nut8681 3 жыл бұрын
Sabine, such amazing videos. Absolutely love them all!
@joeboxter3635
@joeboxter3635 3 жыл бұрын
When a daddy proton and a mommy electron are attracted to each other at a bar or party and then really love each other .... Well to make a long story short, that's where atoms come from.
@RikoJAmado
@RikoJAmado 3 жыл бұрын
And then those daddy protons and mommy proton couples start meeting other daddy protons and mommy protons, and next thing you know they are swapping partners at "molecular gatherings" and what not.
@sylvaingoudreau7189
@sylvaingoudreau7189 3 жыл бұрын
@@RikoJAmado Ha! long gone the nuclear familly.🤔
@dreamdiction
@dreamdiction 3 жыл бұрын
So are neutrons transgender?
@manog8713
@manog8713 3 жыл бұрын
That's where the babies come from.
@onepathrightlyguided8408
@onepathrightlyguided8408 3 жыл бұрын
Where these laws comes from? And told no answer yet Just wann correct you There is Answer in the holly Quran The creator says 54.13 - Surely, We have created each and every thing by (precise) measure And Quran. 25.2 He creates everything and determines its destiny Here, destiny means a certain, exact measure, form and size; the potentials, attributes, characteristics, and functions that are particular to a being; the limits of its growth and development; as well as all other details that pertain to it and its life. Quran 36.36 All-Glorified is He Who has created the pairs all together out of what the earth produces, as well as out of themselves, and out of what they do not know. Everything animate or inanimate has a pair; we can see opposition and complementarity in all created things and beings, whether in physical, chemical, moral, or psychological qualities. Recent discoveries of complementarity and opposition among sub-atomic particles may be an instance of the kind of pairs that we do not see directly; there will be many other instances of "pairing" of which we remain ignorant. Intelligent people who are ready to think open minded , will find the truth
@ev.adelemandagie4589
@ev.adelemandagie4589 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sabine. Be blessed.
@FishMH
@FishMH 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a clear and concise way to share the knowledge.
@volleyballschlaeger
@volleyballschlaeger 3 жыл бұрын
As a child i was shocked when another child told me that everything we see here is made of "atom".
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 3 жыл бұрын
Atomium in fact: the simplified and oversimplifying theory by which all elements are only one. XD
@arctic_haze
@arctic_haze 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter knew about atoms pretty early having a physicist dad. In her vegetarian periods she was afraid that "atoms of meat" may contaminate her meals.
@abakanazer
@abakanazer 3 жыл бұрын
As a child, I shocked another child saying the "brain" lives in his skull... I think we were not so good after that. Especially my parents and his parents.
@Paxmax
@Paxmax 3 жыл бұрын
As an adult I was shocked to (re-)learn that all "stuff" we see is 99,9999999% void. "Void" of what? ...that question does almost make no sense = It's not even "nothing" there... in the void.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
all systems are the same to me.
@curious_atoms
@curious_atoms 3 жыл бұрын
what a great gift this collective of curious atoms gets to awaken to. thank you!
@ChadDidNothingWrong
@ChadDidNothingWrong 3 жыл бұрын
I think pursuing that island of stability is the most important thing in chemistry. When you think about how limited we would be with the loss of a single stable element, just imagine what we could gain with a new one.
@reason2463
@reason2463 3 жыл бұрын
"And that's where babies come from." "But Mommy, where do atoms come from?"
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
scientsts are so contradictive people what make us different of the other mass isnt all made of H-?
@baogiangsongque5507
@baogiangsongque5507 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Q, This Video is help you create a lot science fiction stories based on the unscientific experience. There are 2 or more kind of Atoms: the Adult Atoms or the older Atoms as is her story said. It is called the asymmetry Atom or the di-polarity Atoms. Also they are the tri-polarity Atom or more but may not able to present in the solar system so on based on we have no the instrument to detect at all.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@baogiangsongque5507 Some times dont get the idea but one question in all your comment are you respalding the the 3 kinds od atoms or not?
@rajanma2168
@rajanma2168 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the big bang theory is possibly believable
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajanma2168 the big bang is not posibly real to me, my self think that matter cant be in just one state as they say it was just plasma at the firdt state, as we see time goes in one direction flow that as well cant be cause if time is a thing and not a concept and works as a system it must to be a 2 way flow a thing all systems must have so to be a cycle. - Do you swalow that past, present and future are the same? cause my self do not at all.
@beamer.electronics
@beamer.electronics 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thank you. Can you please consider doing a deeper - origins of subatomics (quarks, etc)? Stay safe, Beamer.
@edpistemic
@edpistemic 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! You really do explain it clearly for someone like me who gets lost with the higher level maths. Please do a video explaining how human scientists are able to make a machine which can "shoot smaller nuclei at each other."
@SOP83
@SOP83 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally the holly grail for the alchemists ... just create a few million degree oven and they are back in business.
@didierborne166
@didierborne166 3 жыл бұрын
Modern Physics are alchemist spewing out a lot of nonsense theories with fairy tale terms...spooky action at a distance....vomit
@teaser6089
@teaser6089 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, or particle accelerators
@teaser6089
@teaser6089 3 жыл бұрын
@@didierborne166 Fusion is real and yea you can technically create gold out of anything less massive than gold.
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, no. Transmutation (the goal of alchemists) is not about just heating things. It takes magic, which is reserved for the minds of the religious.
@didierborne166
@didierborne166 3 жыл бұрын
@@teaser6089 That is correct....but how was the Proton/Electron actually created. The Neutron decays into a proton + Electron and EM radiation
@noeditbookreviews
@noeditbookreviews 3 жыл бұрын
I love her accent; perfect for a teacher.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 3 жыл бұрын
so much better than the annoying nigel accent and weirdo idioms they use on that tiny island
@humanbeing1675
@humanbeing1675 3 жыл бұрын
Nucleosynthesis..that word is very, very hard to pronounce for a german. She mastered it. Respect.
@tomjc147
@tomjc147 3 жыл бұрын
She's brilliant, but the way she pronounces Iron just kills me 👀🤣🤣🤣
@laura-ann.0726
@laura-ann.0726 2 жыл бұрын
Prior to seeing this video, I had not previously heard that the theory of formation of elements heavier than Iron, had shifted from the Supernovae model to Neutron star merger. Is this a very new finding? For me, this is kind of a big paradigm shift. I'm 65 years old, and have assumed that the Supernova model of heavy element synthesis was firmly established since I was fist taught about in high school 50, years ago. Wow! Thank you!
@blueberrylane8340
@blueberrylane8340 3 жыл бұрын
I have a pavlovian response whenever I hear "that's what we will talk about today", I get excited!
@squarerootof2
@squarerootof2 3 жыл бұрын
What a perv. Seek help!
@plameniontchev3681
@plameniontchev3681 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Sabine! I particularly enjoyed this video since I learned something new for me. So far I also thought that r-process happen in supernovae only. Didn't think about mergers of neutron stars, probably because I thought that gravitation is so strong that such merger directly lead to formation of a black hole and no matter comes out, may be only some light, neutrino and gravitational waves. Seem I was wrong. But anyway, please keep making such videos, I really enjoy them!
@melanietempleton2605
@melanietempleton2605 3 жыл бұрын
What a great channel! Easy to understand and interesting topics and Sabine has beautiful diction!
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 3 жыл бұрын
"making an atomic nucleus is not easy". Well, it's rather easy in the case of hydrogen...
@JROD082384
@JROD082384 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, gluons might scoff at that statement.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 3 жыл бұрын
@@JROD082384 gluons already hold the quarks in the proton together. That's the a simple hydrogen nucleus is; a single proton. There is no nuclearsynthesis required. It gets no simpler than that.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
THERE CANT BE a nucleous with out the protons and electrons at all to me.
@lukabc31
@lukabc31 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEulerID no gluons nor quarks exists. Gluons do not hold quarks. All is frequently harmonics in ether.
@lukabc31
@lukabc31 3 жыл бұрын
@@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace it is not about electrons and protons but about volume of geometry, symetry and volume of energy..
@tonyguerich9854
@tonyguerich9854 3 жыл бұрын
OK...So I didn't win the billion dollar Megamillions. At least I have a new Sabine video.
@charlesbromberick4247
@charlesbromberick4247 3 жыл бұрын
I believe we are very fortunate that this brilliant woman shares her learned perspective through KZbin videos.
@NAANsoft
@NAANsoft 3 жыл бұрын
Neutron star merging was new to me - I was always told that supernovae created all remaining elements so that we are "children of stardust". Now, what are we now?
@marklawes1859
@marklawes1859 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't neutron stars stars then?
@eljcd
@eljcd 3 жыл бұрын
well, until recently, we couldn't see the light of a NS merger, so we didn't know what stuff was released in the collision. Now, with LIGO and other detectors of GW, it is possible locate the place in the sky where a merger happened, point a telescope there and get a spectre of light. This is gonna be a hot area of research from now on.
@ItsVideos
@ItsVideos 3 жыл бұрын
When a mommy atom and a daddy atom love each other, and touch each other in a very special way, that's where atoms come from.
@ispamforfood
@ispamforfood 2 жыл бұрын
You're good people, Sabine. Love your videos; your knowledge and understanding amazes me. :-)
@franciscopolatscheck8837
@franciscopolatscheck8837 3 жыл бұрын
But then... Alas! The fundamental question just steps back one step: where did protons and neutrons and eletrons come from?
@misterphmpg8106
@misterphmpg8106 3 жыл бұрын
Protons and Neutrons are made of up and down Quarks. And now? Quarks are Made of Milk. (German joke Quark in German is curd cheese)
@karlsjostedt8415
@karlsjostedt8415 3 жыл бұрын
All that exists is pure energy. Anything that has mass or seems solid is just energy held in a stable harmonic. If it seems solid then spinning energy is making magnetic fields that push on the magnetic fields of other atoms. There is no chunky thing called a proton or electron, just vibrations of energy that can seem like chunks when there is a huge amount of energy locked into a tiny harmonic configuration. The energy of the vacuum is probably the source of all energetic movements, and during the concentrated expansion we call the big bang, a lot of particles were created as the energy levels calmed down after the initial burst...
@franciscopolatscheck8837
@franciscopolatscheck8837 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlsjostedt8415 That's all very nice. But then... Alas! There comes the truly fundamental question: Why is there ANYTHING rather than NOTHING?
@franciscopolatscheck8837
@franciscopolatscheck8837 3 жыл бұрын
@Maxx KroesWhy is it silly? It's been asked ever since the Ancient Greeks, up to recent times - notably by Heidegger.
@jlpsinde
@jlpsinde 3 жыл бұрын
Great as always!
@domari9459
@domari9459 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sabine, for updating my knowledge about how the heavier elements came into existence. Up to this point, I thought supernovae created all the heavier elements out of hydrogen and helium. Now that theory has been challenged by the newer hypothesis of merging neutron stars creating those heavier elements. This is the best thing about modern western physics, which is the ability to correct the incorrect theories and blunders with newer and more accurate theories and hypothesis'.
@davidw6936
@davidw6936 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way she says ‘iron’. Reminds me how to spell it.
@hv3115
@hv3115 3 жыл бұрын
Well she is pronouncing it incorrectly. But English is not her first language i'm guessing so it's all good.
@Brindlebrother
@Brindlebrother 3 жыл бұрын
Most non english speakers pronounce it the right way, haha
@shookreeseeree4
@shookreeseeree4 3 жыл бұрын
But she can say island correctly..
@mynameispaul0530
@mynameispaul0530 3 жыл бұрын
"Quantum tunneling is an essential phenomenon for nuclear fusion. The temperature in stars' cores is generally insufficient to allow atomic nuclei to overcome the Coulomb barrier and achieve Thermonuclear fusion. Quantum tunneling increases the probability of penetrating this barrier." Google search
@eljcd
@eljcd 3 жыл бұрын
True, but she isn't getting into the details of fusion in this video. Umn, meybe in a next one?
@mynameispaul0530
@mynameispaul0530 3 жыл бұрын
@@eljcd That would be great. I'd like to understand more about what QT has to do with fusion inside the sun.
@Allen-by6ci
@Allen-by6ci 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who speaks English. Thanks Dr. Banner.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
still is pure theory to me we cant see inside atoms with out disturbing them so how we could say so.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@mynameispaul0530 SKY SCHOLAR DR. Rabiteil. says that standard physics theory of the sun are pure BS, well not like that.
@BryanWagner
@BryanWagner 3 жыл бұрын
Double thumbs up on this video. I never knew fusion stopped at Iron! That's such an epiphany for me!
@SeanFlaherty
@SeanFlaherty 3 жыл бұрын
"eye-ron", love it!
@EyMannMachHin
@EyMannMachHin 3 жыл бұрын
Just a typical German pronunciation mistake made by pronouncing things the way you write them. I also do that quite often.
@Taleb1160
@Taleb1160 3 жыл бұрын
That’s is correct way to say it. The English language suffers from many inconsistencies, so don’t assume the English pronunciation is correct. For example the English word blood is pronounced as “Blud” as apposed to “blewed” as it should be pronounced, like some folks who pronounce it that way and we tend to laugh at them. not to mention if we follow that rule the we should pronounce the word wood as “wud “, but here Here we get it right 🙄. In English we also wrongly pronounce draft, draught the same way, etc the reason for all this is that many words in the English language were brought in from other languages. After all English is originally a Germanic dialect offshoot. Later developed further with many French, Arabic and other Latin influences. That’s why English is so inconsistent with pronunciation in comparison to most other languages on the planet. So “eyeron” it is 😅
@elfenbeinturm-media
@elfenbeinturm-media 3 жыл бұрын
@@Taleb1160 There is a great channel called "Langfocus" (a Canadian who who is a languages expert), who made a video about that; the main reason does not seem to be that English has a lot of "foreign" words in it - all languages have that. The main reason seems to be that, other than in French oder German or Swedish, the English language never was reformed in an efficient way, cleaning up inconsistencies.
@michaelprozonic
@michaelprozonic 3 жыл бұрын
I have an unusual visual defect in which the first letter(s) of a word are sometimes replaced with different letters to form a different word so when i read the title of this video, I thought it was “Where do MOMS come from?” I thought the answer was pretty simple and didn’t require advanced physics to understand it
@peterrabbit2965
@peterrabbit2965 3 жыл бұрын
That's really cool. My weird visual thing was the letter 'i' - I'd see it as blue while the other letters were standard black. It doesn't happen any more :(
@fredb2022
@fredb2022 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you to our hostess. Learned a lot. Masterfully presented.
@kpklz
@kpklz 3 жыл бұрын
wait, how the hell does a neutron just "decay" into a proton?
@jacoboneill2494
@jacoboneill2494 3 жыл бұрын
they're made of the same components (quarks and gluons).
@sm6756
@sm6756 3 жыл бұрын
@Butterfly Sword and what about the mass difference? Is neutron a little bit heavier than proton?
@madallas_mons
@madallas_mons 3 жыл бұрын
Neutrons have slightly more mass and energy than protons. After some time neutrons emit various quanta of energy in the form of smaller particles and thus lose mass and energy to become protons which are far, farrrrrr more stable and take far longer to decay further
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacoboneill2494 so what are quarks and gluons then?
@jacoboneill2494
@jacoboneill2494 3 жыл бұрын
@@-_Nuke_- quarks are thought to be a type of electromagnetic field oscillation. leptons (such as electrons) are too, but the opposite way, like crests and troughs of a wave. gluons are thought to be oscillations in another quantum field (strong nuclear). they provide the atomic "glue" that holds a nucleus together.
@nirajabcd
@nirajabcd 3 жыл бұрын
Sabin Hossenfelder is brutal. Wish she was my physics teacher, I would have pursued my career in physics.
@michaeltellurian825
@michaeltellurian825 2 жыл бұрын
The assuredness of your belief in the big bang, which is the foundation for your theory, is astounding.
@matsjonsson1704
@matsjonsson1704 3 жыл бұрын
I know this. "Where do atoms come from?" Its when Matoms and Patoms get together
@masamune2984
@masamune2984 3 жыл бұрын
My parents always told me it was when a stork crosses the storkschild radius.
@TrakThora
@TrakThora 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@protoword10
@protoword10 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sabine for well explained things about atoms!
@adder95
@adder95 3 жыл бұрын
Next time I'll tell my clients "This is why you should invest in gold, it only came from the collision of neutron stars"
@jps0117
@jps0117 3 жыл бұрын
Iron is like Wednesday.
@lawrencenannes4260
@lawrencenannes4260 3 жыл бұрын
Such clarity!!!! Of teaching is really amazing!!! Respect to you!!!!
@ablebaker8664
@ablebaker8664 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting, "When two protons love each other very much..."
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
dont take me wrong they must be gays they are same charge.
@ablebaker8664
@ablebaker8664 3 жыл бұрын
@@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace So, what would that imply for quarks ? If there are three of them and they're either Up or Down, how could you tell which was the Top and which the Bottom? That's all rather Charming but still a bit Strange no matter how you look at it.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@ablebaker8664 excuse me but even simple questions some times ar hard for me to understand. protons must to love each other my self dont think there is a part or atom in us that heate each other, my self kind of made a jocke by sayng that they must be gays, but forget it. in my work that my logo is part it shows that the pairs are in top of the systems and the not pairs in top, in this case are 7 systems, but take a look to the middle one, the none pairs are electrons and the pairs are protons, both are the same thing, the only difference is that the top must be lighter and the bottom must be heavier due that mass follows atomic weight, in my work they relate in cross section from north to south in pairs not in tercetos or by 3. the neutrons are made of both charges.
@ablebaker8664
@ablebaker8664 3 жыл бұрын
@@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace It was a joke.
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace
@SernasHeptaDimesionalSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@ablebaker8664 If that is just my only grammer mistake that is much more than exelent for me even in my own language it is a problem for me. There is a big mistake of mine that is that in the DNA picture that decoded the figure divides in 2 sides that is north and south, where north side are pairs and south side are not pairs, this 2 sides are divided by the equator that is made by the 2 sides that is it has positive and negative sides or north and south so is the way it may level the system by giving or taken energy as needed by the system. One more thing is that the picture counts with 4 orbits that my self thinks is what makes them think that there are for some reason more particles than protons and neutrons, my self think that every thing in all systems are made of the same thing, just in diferent temperature and maybe just some parts are waymore compacted than others, if you see meat, bones nerves etc, are made of same thing that by the end are atoms even Sabine say not, but who am i to say so maybe she will explain it later.
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