Where's Apple's Foldable iPhone?

[@FullAwsome]

It would be great if apple will have a foldable phone soon. I’m an iPhone user and I’m strongly considering switching back to android to get my hands on something else than a candy bar phone.

[@KingOfNaraka]

It's simple. Apple is waiting for other companies to do the heavy lifting in improving foldable devices: minimize/eliminate screen creases; stronger hinges, better water and dust resistance, improve batter life while minimizing thickness. Once they are improved enough, Apple will buy/copy from others and put together their own version then claim to have had been working on it for two decades.

[@De_Wukong]

Ohhh and Samsung is innovative then apple 😂😂😂🤣

[@finnkraus5824]

I mean, if Samsung, a company with billions of dollars can’t improve the best on foldable phones, nobody can

[@Gabriel87100]

Exactly! And then they can split the product into 2 or 3 and ask a lot of sweet dollars for each!

[@mayukhmandal5757]

It's very surprising to see apple so lazy in smartphone department, on the other hand in the laptop section they are producing some amazing chips and made great laptops and Macs but unfortunately they just refused to be innovative in iPhone section, fortunately they have no rival in iOS world , that's also helps them to be this lazy.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@mayukhmandal5757 easy to say when you have no idea what’s going on in the background.

[@pumpthewater419]

When Samsung actually starts selling a product we’ve been dreaming about since sci-fi books have been feeding it to our young minds it’s: what problem does it solve? When Apple starts selling foldable phones: Worlds first foldable iPhone and it’s the greatest tech leap since iPhone 1!

[@KerryRyan]

Glad I'm not the only one who seen the over zealous fanboy opinions there.

[@egafx]

well, only Apple can make the world's first foldable iPhone 🤷‍♂️ Apple made the world's first iPad, world's first iPhone, world's first Macbook and world's first AirPods.

[@marcjulmis4746]

That's why I hate KZbinrs. They're all apple worshipers, apple fanboys.

[@granade8333]

LMAO of course it would be first foldable iPhone.

[@fcf8269]

Remember, tech journalists have a job because Apple sell a ton of devices. As such it is normal that they root for what sell the most, since it is what keep them employed. And beside that, it is a known fact that only Apple make the 1st of everything on the market; because their fanboys are aware only of that brand; anything else happening in the world is not real

[@ifareaged]

In tech, Android innovates and Apple sets the standard: they both rely on each other and to dismiss any of these 2 players is pure ignorance

[@jeddjoseph237]

Simplest comment that summarises the smartphone market... kudos!!

[@diverman1023]

I’m not sure I agree with that generalization, considering Apple essentially invented the tactile smartphone in the first place, and today what really sets the iPhone above the rest is in house R&D such as Apple silicon

[@ifareaged]

@@diverman1023 Actually IBM invented the first smartphone in 1994, apple, just like I said set the standard. If you know the history of apple they don't take any leap (ex: Samsung galaxy note), they wait for others to take & confirm there's a market for a product & then perfect that product. Apple will not be who they are without their competition

[@badwolf9956]

@@ifareaged Apple doesn’t invent things, but they do revolutionize them.

[@diverman1023]

@@ifareaged I don't consider the SPC a smartphone personally, but I know many would disagree. The iphone's design was radically different from these types of PDAs, as Steve Jobs mentioned correctly it's a new type of device. Competition benefits and pushes all businesses of course, but I wouldn't say they're this dependent on it seeing they're truly pioneering silicon, design language, IOS and MacOS are simply the best programmed premium operating systems in their class, etc

[@dianecairnes5278]

Definitely going to wait for an iPhone foldable. I would definitely buy one.

[@normie111]

🤢

[@jozixl8808]

@@normie111 ?

[@normie111]

@@jozixl8808 apple is like British empire..they steal others technology and rename it and keep it for themselves...have you ever seen apple selling its bionic chipset or rams? But they shamelessly buy Samsung's displays and Sony's camera sensors...worst thing is they're playing Monopoly! They show Facebook and Google privacy breach but then they use your data to personalise ads and subscription, technically trying to destroy google, Facebook , Spotify and other small businesses..they even charge you extremely high for their services and doesn't let you use other company services..this is purely why i stared hating Apple's dirty business strategy

[@jozixl8808]

@@normie111 I dont know what’s wrong with buying things from other companies. I also don’t get how they want to destroy them

[@pmeister2462]

I would like to get a foldable iPhone as well. Just waiting for Apple to create one for us.

[@SeoWoojin55]

Apple would probably buy the screens from Samsung anyway since all other companies producing foldables does the same thing. Claim they made something unique, but uses parts designed and made by Samsung. Samsung is the largest phone company and largest supplier for all its rivals. Its all good business for Samsung

[@somekindofmonster3613]

Apple designs the tech and then pays for samsung to build it. Same thing for TSMC, apple designs the chips and pays them to make it. Just samsung making them doesn't mean they designed it too.

[@SuperBoop]

@@somekindofmonster3613 but they did lol, and it being based off a patent isn't design.

[@SeoWoojin55]

@@somekindofmonster3613 lol, samsung having the patent means apple did not design anything. Just like how Samsung has patents for the AMOLED screens

[@SeoWoojin55]

@@SuperBoop exactly

[@somekindofmonster3613]

@@SeoWoojin55 Apple has their own patent for their oled and retina displays

[@braskabani8011]

When apple does it will be all over social media like some new alien technology

[@Watch-0w1]

And cnet would be there to cover it. 24/7

[@xnate11]

Cause Apple will do it THAT well. It’s just their thing. They wait till a technology is all worked out, then they perfect it.

[@gao1812]

@@xnate11 🤣🤣 yeah sure, like their non-interactive widgets, their messed-up AOD and their revolutionary battery percentage indicator, their universal clipboard without history 😂 best implementations ever 🙄🤣

[@BillyPhilipRwoth]

@@gao1812 All those ‘imperfections’ and they still make more money from selling phones than anyone else! Not too bad I guess…

[@charliehelyes]

It will be unbearable 😫

[@fadhilhussain8344]

I think a big part of it is the size of the market. Foldable phones are still pretty niche, Apple probably wouldn’t release one until they’re closer to mainstream, then they’ll swoop in aiming to become the mainstream solution (Along with what others are saying about refining the technology, preserving their reputation about build quality, etc.)

[@fcf8269]

I doubt that; the first iPhone came out when mobile phones were still niche and the top tier product was the good old monochrome Nokia, or the professional-oriented blackberry. Apple came out with the iPhone at a time where things were much cheaper, and the only ones pouring a ton of money on smart devices were professionals. The success came with a good OS, good design and the intuition that the market will expand, so the initial pricing was very aggressive and paid off. 399 of that time are not the same as 1K of today's money, when you buy an iPhone

[@krishmalhotratalks]

@@fcf8269 the first smartphone was released in the 1990s

[@fcf8269]

@@krishmalhotratalks Those were PDA with cell phone capabilities; to go to a proper smart phone with a proper OS that could execute tasks at the level of a comparable computer of the time, you will have to wait until the early 2000s. Symbian was the closest thing you could get to a modern OS on a cell device; hence the closest thing you could get to a smartphone in the modern standards we use today. Then if we want to count any device that could connect to a modem and was "portable"; we can go as back as the late 70s...

[@sgodsellify]

Apple can't release a foldable 2 in 1 type device, like the Galaxy Z Fold 3/4 device. Especially since Apple has a major app ecosystem problem. As a matter of fact Apple encourages their app developers to make separate iPhone apps, and separate iPad apps. But Apple has gone further down this path of separation by separating iOS. So now there is iOS for iPhones, and iPadOS for iPads. Google and Android do the exact opposite when it comes to app development, where Google encourages app developers to make one app that supports both smartphones, and tablets. Plus Google uses one version of Android for both smartphones and tablets. This is why you will NEVER see a 2 in 1 foldable from Apple. Apple would have to make one OS that works on both of Apple's iPhones and iPads. Plus Apple would have to get their developers to make one app that supports and runs on both iPhones, and iPads. That is not happening anytime soon.

[@sgodsellify]

It has nothing to do with hardware, or foldable's becoming mainstream. First of all Apple has an app ecosystem problem, and Apple now has 2 versions of iOS. One version for iPhones, and another version of iOS for iPads called iPadOS. If Apple wanted to make a 2 in 1 foldable similar to Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold 3/4, then Apple needs to only use one version of iOS for both iPhones, and iPads. Only one version of Android is used for both smartphones and tablets. Plus Google encourages their developers to create one single app that supports both smartphones and tablets. Apple is the complete opposite, where Apple encourages their developers to create separate iPhone apps, and separate iPad apps. So Apple customers will be waiting till kingdom come if they want to see an iPhone unfold to an iPad.

[@kurzeful]

Samsung is more innovative than Apple. Apple tends to copy Samsung features for the last 5 years. So to me, Samsung way better than Apple at the moment.

[@skykham5651]

You know Samsung copy Apple a lot too right?

[@kurzeful]

@@skykham5651 that's a fact I would never deny. However, in the past 5 years, Apple has copied more from Samsung than the other way around. Apple is just being lazy and boring because people support them and they sit on their laurel. While Samsung is pushing the envelope of creativity for others to follow.

[@PTRAINBOY]

@@skykham5651 and apple uses Samsung screens

[@iustin1658]

@@PTRAINBOY I really like the way Samsung insane fanboys get so angry at Apple having Samsung screens, Samsung is living from the sales they make to Apple, they would lose so much if they would stop selling screens to apple

[@Mrfree1]

Do you really need a new phone every 2 years? Or 1 year

[@prakharkumar6291]

Took so many years to show the battery percentage just in an Apple way.

[@mashasgreen9394]

They had it before so not sure what the issue is here?

[@evilentity302]

Innovation

[@7721forvalue]

With z flip 3 for a year of experience, ive never felt any limit or compromise because of folding feature

[@emilemcgee6031]

True and I have the 2 and the 3 and might skip the 4 so when I buy the 5 it's a big upgrade

[@mrno1else639]

So nobody thought the millennium falcon charger was dope af 🤩

[@billyteodocio7485]

You expect Crapple to launch a foldable phone? They can't even put a USB-C in their phones

[@John_Uche]

For those asking, so basically you have to wait 5 years b4 you can copy certain key features. So typically, apple is usually 5 years late to the party (all parties). but if they’re early it’s because they bought a company

[@shane7051]

Is this true? If so, why is it 5 years?

[@lukes.3488]

@@shane7051 Probably patent rights. Apple can't copy Samsung outright or they will be sued. Patent rights usually protect the innovator for a set amount of years and then others can copy afterwards. Hence, you often see Apple just copying and then claming they have "perfected and refined" the technology, lol.

[@MrVomora]

When Apple releases their foldable phone, they're going to say that it's the first foldable phone ever created lol.

[@adventurousloner]

More like, "[...the most innovative foldable phone ever.]" 😭🤣

[@MzwandileHarmans]

It wouldn’t solve anything but bring issues that we have already seen with current folds. High prices, less camera specs, fragility. I don’t think the form factor outweighs the above sacrifices

[@vinhvu155]

I don't know about you. But the Fold and Flip are quite strong. Used them all and dropped them all. They are far from fragile. And btw remember you typical glass sandwich is also fragile if you don't treat your phone with care. Soo it's invalid your fragile arguments. Same with less camera. Look at Huawei. Apple is just too safe. Too boring lately. They no longer innovates, they just tweak. Snazzylabs tells you the best.

[@NaniVitali]

@@vinhvu155 I think they’re waiting until they can figure out how to complete hide the notch under the display for the big “inner” display of a foldable. I think they’re definitely going to make a foldable iphone to compete with the Z Fold and maybe even the Z Flip and Razr but it’s apple so until the product is ready and can earn the apple reputation of reliable, safe and easy to use it wont be announced. Then again i don’t know how they’d market it because if it’s a phone that can fold out into a tablet that’ll eat into ipad sales unless they stop making the ipad air and replace it with a foldable; that or making a high end version of the iphone that can fold into a smaller form factor are the best options they have to me in terms of a “why does it need to exist?” standpoint.

[@tjadejoh]

@@vinhvu155 and what is the IP rating of your fodlable? I think that is what he meant. The folding Phones arent even water tight. Not even dust resistant. And way more moving parts that can all fail/break. He wasnt talking about the glass, which is indeed the same as on Other phones/iPhones

[@MaiElizabeth]

Agree. I just need better camera, better screen, better battery, better processor ... Not a 'unique' design. I'm just a realist.

[@BIIIKES]

Apple hasn't "invented" foldable phones yet.

[@LSnium]

Steve Job's Apple: ahead of the game always 15 years ahead of everyone else: Tim Cook's Apple: 10 years behind no new advances:

[@eli.cohen13]

When apple does the flip phone it will be like AirPods when at first people thought they were weird but now everywhere I go I see a pair of AirPods and soon after the release everyone will start getting it

[@Dongzzzzzz]

Every Ios user will say "they don't need to make a foldable phone" yet will drop 3k dollars right now if Apple does make one.

[@zephyr3693]

You’re probably right but there’s a lot of people who don’t like them no matter what brand makes them. It would probably be the same niche group of tech loving people who are buying the galaxy folds.

[@bigblov3]

Apple doesn’t need a foldable phone right now , I can argue that it doesn’t need one period

[@Platinum199]

I agree but I hate everyone with a passion who ends sentences with “period”

[@zephyr3693]

Agree. I don’t see the use of foldable phones other than they’re cool and new. I don’t really need a massive screen with me at all times. My regular smartphone screen is big enough, and there’s a reason I have an iPad and gaming laptop at home.

[@isaacmccarty4578]

I would bet that they have already tested it out and there is someone at Apple with a foldable iPhone and they will decide it isn't gonna add any features. Apple won't make it is it doesn't give you any value.

[@HowlingFishProducts]

true but also 20 years ago I didn’t know how much I needed a smartphone in my life period.

[@xxyyxx2861]

@@Platinum199 you did the same lol

[@anyadike]

10 years later, and we're doing this again? You know iPhones have that huge notch on the front of the screen, that you only find in $200 phones. Apple does that because they will only release hardware once it's cheap enough to put in their phones. The foldable technology won't be cheap enough for an Apple phone for another 2 years. There won't be a foldable phone in 2023. The functionality of foldable phones has already demonstrated itself, if you've talked to anyone who's ever used one. It's exactly the same as the big screen phones 10 years ago that Apple users thought were hilarious, but then bought in the tens of millions two years later. Once the foldable phone is profitable enough for Apple, they will release it.

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

"You know iPhones have that huge notch on the front of the screen, that you only find in $200 phones" That notch serves a major purpose though. FaceID is amazing and is supposed to be more secure than TouchID. Do 200$ Android phones have face unlock that is not 2D and you can rely on for authenticating payments? Besides, I don't remember that last time I saw the notch on my phone and it has bothered me. It bothered me for the first 10 mins after buying my phone after which I got used to it pretty quickly (since 99% of the time, you are looking at the middle of the screen). Would the phone display be better without a notch? Sure. But then you would have to sacrifice a very critical feature of the phone (FaceID) to get there. Something which I and millions of other iPhone users feel is not worth it.

[@LordCoeCoe]

10 years later, phones might not even exist. Maybe they will be replaced by AR glasses that can project a huge screen on your iris. Which they thought in the 1980s. So idk. The future will be interesting.

[@BruceLeeRoy26]

@@PurushNahiMahaPurush in my opinion most Android users don't seem to know the difference between 2D and 3D face recognition or that Samsung tried to implement it on one of their phone after the iPhone X was released and it resulted in a notch as well so they scrapped the project. Most Fandroids just repeat the same thing over and over again because they saw other people say it.

[@sandipmakhal1317]

I don't think even a 200 dollar phone has a notch i mostly see punch holes. It's true that the notch is for face ID but that doesn't mean the notch is not there. And don't get me started about notch on MacBook without face ID. It might be recognisable but that doesn't mean it's not ugly.

[@Ezeugo_1]

@@PurushNahiMahaPurush face iD isn't more secure than ultrasonic touch ID on Samsung. They are both on par with each other. They both have their pros and cons

[@shwetamalhotra9403]

apple is good because pictures are good in the dark

[@AverageJoe483]

They don’t want to risk reputation of having solid well built phones . Fold phones are too much of a risk to reputation .

[@liberty0758]

More likely they wouldn't want to ruin iPad sales, if people started buying foldable iPhones.

[@fcf8269]

The reputation is irrelevant; fanboys will buy anything they put their brand on it; and the ones that does not like their product does not like them anyway. They cater to their own ecosystem and users only in the end. Maybe you are too young to remember the time when Apple was making products that others won't be doing; that Apple is long dead, and what you see now is purely driven by numbers of what is safe to produce; and as now the foldable market is not worth their time because would cannibalize their existing products. As you can see with the new M1 chip, they didn't move over a new platform until they totally cut off the old one, so before getting to foldable devices they will have to cut off on their current device options to make it worthwhile

[@lukes.3488]

Lol. They are just waiting for the patent from Samsung to be free to use after 5 years.

[@-er-un1wt]

Don’t think it it the future, it will die out as a trend.

[@mss5460]

Me looking at the thumbnail and thinking where is the "Notchless iPhone".

[@WingStorm]

*Samsung stays winning left and right, even if Apple copies them in the future with their foldable version, they'll be using Samsung parts like they have been for many years now*

[@olivernt2667]

So what if they use Samsung parts. They have better to use phones

[@Gladiator1972]

What's your definition of winning? to me it is who sells more units.

[@Mikeshift1]

@@Gladiator1972 The samsung wins, they sell more units world wide then apple.

[@Junispro31]

@@Gladiator1972 Samsung as a whole wins no matter what brand of phone you choose. Screens, chipsets, pen digitizers to cargo ships, construction. They earn $400,000 a minute, even if you don't ever touch a Samsung branding product.

[@Gladiator1972]

@@Junispro31 Apple is the #2 most profitable company in the world, while Samsung is at #10.

[@Truth_Seeker1]

He missed one thing. Ming Chu Kuo changed his opinion on foldable iPhone release day. First he said 2003 then afterwards he said 2024.

[@JimKanaris]

Really not interested in owning a foldable. No use for it personally. Still, I find the technology interesting--hence watching this review. Thanks!

[@jboogie45213]

@Nordin Use it for a week and I gurantee you'll change your mind

[@NaniVitali]

@@jboogie45213 100%

[@NaniVitali]

@Nordin I think it’s for more functionality purposes like how the iphone replaced both a mobile phone and the ipod. This is more so that you’re phone can be a tablet when you want and phone when you want without having to carry both.

[@quicksandx54]

Man, when Apple come out with foldable, people will go crazy 🤪..

[@TomTomdog]

You don't know how convenient the flip phone is until you try

[@a.b7846]

Without Samsung Apple is nothing sad but true

[@mrrod6095]

When apple comes out with a foldable phone it will be the day everyone will want a foldable phone...

[@iDeviceHelp]

Folding phones solve No problems, why are they a thing? I really doubt Apple will release a folding phone. Maybe a folding Table yes, but not a folding phone I really doubt it v

[@Kastigador19]

Huh? More real estate to watch and read on your phone while not taking up more pocket space. Who doesn't want that option? It's like best of both worlds if only the tech was reliable and thin enough(which it eventually will be). Tablets have been in a weird place for a while, not quite portable like a phone, not quite big or powerful enough to be an ultrabook(maybe now though). Most importantly, young people don't do tablets and somewhat begrudgingly use computers which they definitely do not upgrade as often as their phones. The only other option to make phone viewing bigger is some sort of hologram/projection/ar something which is sci-fi right now. Meanwhile samsung's business is founded in screen tech so that's why they are dragging this flexible screen tech forward and making a big deal about it that makes it sound like a big trending seller even though it isn't yet.

[@Platinum199]

There’s a lot of benefits, soon massive phones can fit in your pocket when folded. And it’ll be nice watching movies on a bigger screen at night

[@patrickriley478]

I love my z3, just saying. Almost a year (8/25) and this things a beast. I'm not a reviewer or troll but don't knock it until you experience how innovative it is. Just the leap ahead in cinematic dimensions and stereo (loud) speaker quality is insane. My poor UE Boom is collecting dust while I Pandora by phone, who would of thought. Check it out, yolo

[@Viktor21771]

Foldables are the future!

[@diverman1023]

@@Kastigador19 large phones like the pro max iPhone are plenty big for arms length content consumption, and if people want bigger that’s what the iPad or a TV are for. Foldable phones flopped because they poorly try to solve a problem that not many people care about. Nobody wants a deformed LCD around a crease that can never be completely flat

[@neoamaru]

is that Tweeten in the bottom left hand corner? thanks.

[@jesusnavarrete6317]

Apple fanboys always say they don't need anything until they get it. Picture in picture youtube is perfect example . I have an IPhone for work by the way.

[@povteer]

maybe in a couple of years when they 'invent' it..maybe they'll call it 'dynamic shape' 🤣

[@Reconseal4050]

Steve Jobs would have laughed at a foldable iPhone! 😂

[@WhackyFizz]

They better come up with it soon. I have been waiting to upgrade iPhone X Max for a while now but can’t justify the tech upgrades to do it yet. I might have to upgrade to another brand soon.

[@johnguillen68]

Apple doesn't need a folding phone. It's like going backwards with technology. If they did, they would have a small screen when it's folded to show notification, and what would be the purpose of that while you can just look at your full screen for all notifications?

[@sudiptokumar986]

@1:50 i think apple iphone pro also comes with same 4000mah battery as samsung flip

[@TechWithSean]

I don’t want any phone with creases across the whole screen.

[@micheleerceg3806]

I would buy a foldable iphone in a heartbeat. Its all about the size of what I have to carry around with me. And no more butt dials!

[@Ridku13]

5:52 how do I do that with my zfold3? When I use flex mode on youtube I see the comments at the bottom screen instead of the volume, pause, etc buttons

[@fromann09]

Did you just pull a "Newman!" from Seinfeld? 😂😂😂

[@jondeak]

How people can deal with that crease in the middle of the screen is beyond me.

[@discodan1592]

You don’t see it unless your looking for it

[@JackTheBlack1585]

If apple have a crease on their foldable phone all of apple fanboy would sing an different tune.

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

Same way iPhone users (like me) deal with the notch. You learn to ignore it after the first few minutes.

[@maggie.online]

I've played with it irl believe me with the usability it has you barely notice it. Chances are if you need it to work you forget about it and if you need it to watch movies or something you probably aren't in a place lit enough for it to be reflective

[@MistaRoyanT]

If you look for the crease, you'll see it. Otherwise you don't notice it

[@132james1]

Personally I think they won’t make one until screens that completely make the crease disappear when it’s folded out apple is way to ocd to have a crease on a phone

[@FujiBeatz]

When apple does do it…they’ll announce that they’re the first ones to do it 😆

[@turnerjames]

I like that you did a different spin on the foldable phone instead of just another first take video every other youtube channel is doing

[@HeartofGold16]

I feel that a foldable phone is such a gimmick. Its very reminiscent of Tesla's yolk steering wheel in the Plaid Model S. Gimmicky and really really stupid in practice. I have no interest in a foldable Apple. I like my iPhone the way it is: functioning. I also feel the folding aspect of any phone is just another way for it to have a failure. Hard hard pass.

[@sly2792004]

@@RideOnTimePH while also making it twice as thick.

[@HeartofGold16]

@H4XE7 REAC7 I just don't see it being durable longterm. Just like how flip phones from 2002 failed, that z fold 3 will fail the same way. Also, why in the world would I want a phone twice as thick as a non flip phone? Its just a gimmick and a reason the only manufacturer making flip phones is Galaxy. I'll stick to my iPhone.

[@DP-gt7sr]

When Apple introduces a product. It is all about Apple. When Samsung introduces a product it is 50% about Samsung and 50% about Apple.

[@allthingseverything345]

Says who?

[@DP-gt7sr]

@@allthingseverything345 just about everyone who reviews the product line. This whole discussion is about when Apple will introduce its flip phone based on Samsungs current release of its flip phone.

[@Giffandy5329]

Having used a flip 3 for a year the only real compromise I felt was the battery life, which they're improving for next year. In a lot of ways the clamshell design makes the phone a more durable than comparable smartphones phones, 99% of my drops are picking up or putting down a phone both of which happen while this phone is closed. Taking the drops on an aluminum frame rather than a 6.7 inch piece of glass is an obvious survival improvement. The closed design also means the inner display stays protected from scratches in a pocket/bag/whatever. Most of the Apple people I know see the flip open and want a foldable, they're just want one in the Apple ecosystem.

[@donaldtrumptard2759]

Or just get a case! drop by 22 ultra all the time with no damage! DERP DERP!

[@Giffandy5329]

@@donaldtrumptard2759 I mean I do use a case, doesn't stop most glass-body smartphones from shattering anyway if the angle is bad or the surface is asphalt.

[@tikesreyes7217]

I dont want a phone just because the technology now-a-days allows for a folding phone. I just need a phone that simply works. Not something flashy just because theres screens that can fold.

[@kun00]

Can't wait for apples foldable, am sure your tune will change.

[@tikesreyes7217]

@@kun00 give me a blackberry.

[@fcf8269]

The only question I leave here is: in 13 generations of phones and 8 generations of tablets, not a single time Apple had to deal with hinges. They remove the mechanical part not because of innovation, but because they do not have he expertise in that area. Why they didn't make VR headsets? Because they do not have the expertise, so it is not convenient to jump in a market segment where you do not have expertise, when you make trains full of money with proven tech. Laptop hinges are a joke; we have laptops since the late 80s, so saying that Apple is on top of their game in terms of hinges is really a funny joke. For innovation on hinges you can swing by to Samsung and Microsoft; which made hinges for their foldable/dual screen devices from scratch, and as now the Microsoft Duo hinge is still considered the best and most innovative hinge design of the past 20 years. Another problem: since iOS 1.0, Apple made clear that portable devices won't use the same OS as their desktop and laptop computers, because they don't want people buying a phone or tablet and use it as computer: they want you to buy the phone/tablet AND the computer. So if you expect foldable devices to be an extension of a computer for example, like Samsung did with the DEX system; you can bet that Apple won't go that way, simply because they think that iOS is "good enough" to get equivalent work to a desktop workstation, so the software running on a potential folding iPad mini would be the same iOS you see now, with some gimmicks to make it fancy when you fold the device in some positions. We have to face the truth here, that Apple, the Apple that used to innovate, died with Steve Jobs. what we have now is a company that make iterative products that just follow whatever the marketing department find out when doing customer research for products. A foldable phone done right, in the old Apple way would be terrific; but a foldable phone made by the current Apple will be just another piece of iterative tech that may keep fanboys with their money ready in their fist, but for anyone else will be yet another meh product, like what we saw in the past 5-7 years or so.

[@inspire1ove]

As history shows, apple will release a folding phone when they are happy with the product. when it does release, it will probably have little to no crease and will be very polished/refined even with the first generation. For example, samsung flips and folds had many many problems with the screen, with even the z flip 3 showing wear on the screen after only 1 year.

[@zorroknowsbetter]

This is the opinion Android fanboys don’t wanna hear lol

[@MW_Green]

We call that the “apple way” lol

[@SuperBoop]

@@zorroknowsbetter Wrong. I definitely agree if/when they release a foldable, it will have most if not all of the major issues fixed. But I can t see apple releasing one for a while, they could be working on one now or waiting to see if this whole thing ends up flopping.

[@987658340]

APPLE IS ALWAYS LATE FOR EVERYTHING BUT THEY ALWAYS MAKE IT BETTER THAN ANDROID AND THATS FACTS WHEN THEY ROLL OUT THEY DO IT WITH SO MUCH RESPECT AND WERE HERE FOR THEM

[@jackyyo1998]

NO

[@Kerbal18]

Foldable phones have got to be one of the dumbest trends in technology rn

[@YouAndImpact]

Great video 👍

[@Jaxonthelegend1]

Honestly, we don’t need foldable phones. The idea of two screens slapping on each other with movable hinges is a terrible idea for longevity.

[@dhirajgawande007]

I would get a foldable in a heartbeat if they were cheap

[@apexjeep8861]

One thing that I love about apple is notice how they seem behind a little bit on the huge changes but they wait until they have it really good long before they release it say for instance the notes battery issue with some phones that stuff don’t be happening with iPhones because they wait and spend lots of time perfecting things before they release them

[@Mikeshift1]

you mean they wait for samsung prefects it, then they steal their ideals and change it a little bit. Then call it revolutionary.....

[@TheI.L.Y]

Dont want a New iPhone 6

[@ayushkumarnayak463]

In my future, I’ll need my IPhone 📱 Foldable phone.

[@1015SaturdayNight]

I'm absolutely not going back to 2001 with a flip phone

[@alcozar5905]

How people can deal with Apple releasing the same phone 8 years a row is beyond me 👀.

[@arthurko48]

because maybe it isn't. Maybe you are wrong and millions of people are right. Just a thought of someone who owns a Samsung Fold 3.

[@LordCoeCoe]

Compare the iPhone 13 pro to the iPhone 5. If you seriously think they are the same then you are brain dead.

[@BillyPhilipRwoth]

Maybe because the iPhone 8, released in 2017, isn’t quite the same phone as the iPhone 13, released last year, both in form and function. So much for the same phone 8 years in a row! Even if it were the same phone, why are you so disturbed by the choice of phone millions of people around the world choose to buy using their own money? You don’t have any real issues you’re dealing with?

[@mikewhocheeseharry5292]

Yeah it all comes down to its software. Similar to video game consoles, the hardware console can be super powerful and have new technology, but if there’s not enough good games that actually utilizes the technology to its full potential, then it’s a no go.

[@Zeb75]

There’s a falcon charging station?

[@thesteviemcnasty]

I think all the iPhone users saying that Apple doesn't need to make a foldable are just waiting for the grand unveiling so they can say "Take my 💲"! This is the greatest innovation since the larger screen!

[@86steventura]

I feel like I upgraded my phone every 3-4 years now. As I get older, it’s starting to be just a phone and Internet browser. No games or random apps anymore. I liked when a Phone was just a phone.

[@ijayezebuilo8243]

Yes I will buy for portability. As far as it’s battery life is great, I will pay same as a pro

[@BenNgo]

Meanwhile MKBHD: "So, i'm using the iFold over the last few weeks and here's my review'

[@halo3boy1]

I actually just switched from a Z Fold 3 to S22 Ultra. The fold gimmick is fun for a few months but anything that has hinges will eventually wear out over time and the screens are very scratch sensitive.

[@maxpink]

Well you know how that goes. It's a gimmick until Apple does it. Samsung tested the Z Fold 3 to last at least 200,000 folds. Maybe Apple will test it to meet 275,000 folds and ppl will consider that quality. Who knows. The screens on the 4 series are said to be way better. We'll see. I'm trading in my S22 Ultra for the Z Flip 4 though.. I'm just tired of the large phones. I'll miss my Spen though.

[@Junispro31]

@@maxpink A youtuber asked 100 volunteers to fold the Z Flip 3 as many times before it spoilt, the phone survived roughly 420000 folds before the hinge gave up.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

I think a z fold style iPhone / iPad crossover is exactly the product I’d want. iPad screen and pencil support, iPhone versatility and portability.

[@CrazyPlayer-pf2hv]

Ok why does it have to be a tablet screen? Notes also have a pen, and its even integrated and doesnt need charging and can also remote control the camera.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

@@CrazyPlayer-pf2hv because the entire point of a foldable in most cases is to have a bigger, more tablet like screen? And on the iOS side, only iPads have Apple Pencil support not to mention, just because the Apple Pencil and S pen are digital pen like devices doesn’t mean they’re the same.

[@Tezorus]

I like how this whole video could very well be a paid advertisement from Apple to compensate the fact that they have litteraly nothing to show theses days.

[@kumarsivadas4773]

Always a pleasure to watch you

[@1mezion]

Don't worry they're waiting to invent it in the next one to three years It will be a revolutionary breakthrough All the tech KZbinrs will cover it

[@r.christophermccue3297]

Who cares? The technology is interesting. It's a gadget to show off your sophistication. It's one more thing to go wrong. It's not obviously life changing. It doesn't bring anything new. It doesn't play into an overriding demand for already folding phones. Our hysteria of gossip over it's possibility probably says more about us and what we hold to be important and life changing than we want to admit. As a mere consumer what would interest me is if it were easier to carry and had a longer battery life and would automatically block out the spam and advertising that make the ecosystem so "apparently" inexpensive.

[@keyboardt8276]

Lol, the first reply is the spam that you were talking about

[@Eccolegendz20]

Spoken like someone who probably doesn't own one or never held one.

[@joshk2294]

Most of us use our phones many times an hour to search for information, do messaging. How many times do you want do open and close the phone? Foldable phone is not a necessary idea, at least for me.

[@kingsleyokoli8564]

Apple Is waiting for Samsung to get lead of crease then they will buy/copy the screen and build there own. Then claim to be looking for solution to that

[@torrotorrentazos1307]

Whitch shell shall you choose?

[@sandersp94]

iOS can't support foldables and probably won't ,you can't even do split screen multitasking on an iPhone or anything smaller than an iPad there is no true multitasking on smaller iOS devices

[@sandersp94]

And typical Apple they want you to buy the iPad so I don't see it happening

[@WyvernVin]

What i think Apple could do to have a good start on the flip/fold phones area is making an iPhone mini that unfolds into 3 screens to the size of an iPad mini. Like a Z or a triptych pamphlet.

[@yonismo4098]

I LOVE my galaxy z flip 4! I got the purple 💜 one !!! ☔️

[@squidtrader7973]

😂 I had foldable phone back in 2001 why would I want to spend money on a foldable phone in 2022/2023?

[@mystique1633]

Can't wait for a foldable iphone that fits into my pocket.

[@granade8333]

Apple does not rush to anything. If they do something they do it perfect with precise calculation. I swear if Apple does foldable iphone it would look better than Samsung's. Like i said their IOS would have perfect usage of foldable phone. Samsung's foldable phones got ugly folding mechanism which is looks so raw. In ads u don't see that screen crease but in real life it is more noticable than notch. Waiting for Apple to do some perfect looking Foldable phone

[@ThJbomb]

Id like to see a foldable laptop where keyboard on the bottom half in laptop mode and fold out like a ultrawide with a game controller hooked up

[@yahyahassen9807]

Hmm I wonder how Apple will make a fordable phone since Samsung has patented so many hinges which are the best kinda

[@MFizzle777]

They wait for about 5 years or so before they can copy!

[@yahyahassen9807]

@@MFizzle777 😂😂, by then samsung will have patented the so many hinges appls Is gonna have to buy half the parts off them😭😭😭

[@capo900]

I heard a rumor that apple already has 2 working prototypes a Flip version and a Fold

[@handymandy20]

If u use iphone get the Samsung fold 4 such a beter life

[@emi_mono]

I really like the tablet folding phone because the main reason I don’t have a tablet is because it’s too big to carry around. But if I had the iPhone foldable tablet option I would use that alll the time

[@cheezybred]

Samsung is innovating and advancing the mobile phone with the fold. Apple used to be at the top of innovation, but they got too comfortable

[@mattbosley3531]

How many foldable phones are actually sold? Maybe Apple realizes that there's really very little market for it at this time.

[@Maxx-Oblivion]

I’d be pretty excited for an iPhone Fold instead of a Flip. Just hope they do it once there aren’t issues to worry about

[@ChrisWillsTV]

Seems about right...it took Apple about 5 years after manufacturers like Nokia & Sony had already challenged the need for a separate iPod by making their phones capable of playing MP3 files, to actually release the first iPhone with those same abilities with some weird limitations like Apple always imposes. Plus, it took Apple about 5 years to introduce their first wireless charging phone, after nearly every other manufacturer had been offering it to us as a good alternative to cable charging. Now, 5 years later, they're catching up to the foldable game and I'm willing to bet like everything else they do, it will be limited to what they think you should be able to do with a folding device, as opposed to Samsung's approach which is to open up infinite possibilities for how you choose to use your phone.

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

Apple will not make foldables until it is sure it can manufacture hundreds of millions of them at a very fast rate while maintaining high quality standards. There is a reason why Samsung sells foldables are such a heavy price, despite being so unpolished as a product. Its because foldable screens are expensive and hard to make. Samsung cannot make them fast enough in huge numbers which is why it has to sell the phones at insane prices. I love the Z Flip series though. Just wish it was cheaper

[@pakee2352]

Flip is at 999 now, fold is stupidly expensive yes, but the phones dont feel rushed or low quallity at all

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

@@pakee2352 yes the software has gotten better over time. I will definitely keep the Flip as an option for my next phone if it is below 1000.

[@Qmontae]

Samsung has patents over foldables they are in the lab now for apples foldables they were talking 2025 for release

[@Qmontae]

Watching from my z fold 3 love it!!

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

@@Qmontae yea Samsung has a patent but Apple can always contract Samsung for displays. They have done it in the past and they still do it for some other components in their phone. Other companies are making foldables too. Motorola being an example.

[@zahari_s_stoyanov]

Idaho? :D

[@Tim_Lau]

⚡️It’s gonna be an all-screen foldable iPhone.

[@brettself]

Not sure about others’ customers, but the VAST majority of mine still buy iPhones. The Sammys I do sell? S22 and S22 ultra. 3 zFlip since last Christmas and one zFold. Meanwhile, thousands of iPhones.

[@sgodsellify]

Apple can't release a foldable 2 in 1 type device, like the Galaxy Z Fold 3/4 device. Especially since Apple has a major app ecosystem problem. As a matter of fact Apple encourages their app developers to make separate iPhone apps, and separate iPad apps. But Apple has gone further down this path of separation by separating iOS. So now there is iOS for iPhones, and iPadOS for iPads. Google and Android do the exact opposite when it comes to app development, where Google encourages app developers to make one app that supports both smartphones, and tablets. Plus Google uses one version of Android for both smartphones and tablets. You need one physical app that supports smartphones and tablets, and one OS for a 2 in 1 type foldable. This is why you will NEVER see a 2 in 1 foldable from Apple. Apple would have to make one OS that works on both of Apple's iPhones and iPads. Plus Apple would have to get their app developers to make one app that supports and runs on both iPhones, and iPads. That is not happening anytime soon.

[@siddhantgarg6899]

so basically what they wll do is the apps will run in ios in shorter screen and when we open it it will run on iPadOS and they will find a way to do that easily

[@sgodsellify]

@@siddhantgarg6899 Wrong. Try and think. If you install both the iPhone app version, and the iPad app version of the same app. Then how would continuity actually work when a user goes from an iPhone app to the iPad app version? Besides Apple only lets users install the iPhone app version, or the iPad app version. You cannot install both app versions simultaneously on one physical iPhone or iPad. See this is where Android and Google took the correct path for their app ecosystem, as well as the Android version(s) that is needed for foldable smartphone/tablet. Mark my words, if Apple wants to create a 2 in 1 foldable, which is similar to the Galaxy Z Fold 4, then Apple has to merge iOS with iPadOS. Plus Apple has to get their developers to create one app that runs on and supports both iPhones and iPads.

[@siddhantgarg6899]

@@sgodsellify exactly they will merge both ios and ipadOS exclusively for foldable phones

[@sgodsellify]

@@siddhantgarg6899 Well considering iOS16 has been released, and that version still doesn't support real multitasking, because iPhone users still can't run multiple apps simultaneously on any iPhone screen. But the worst part is Apple's developers still maintain their separate iPhone app version, and iPad app version. Apple developers need to start combining their existing iPhone and iPad app versions into one single app. Yet no developers have started to combine their two app versions into one single app. There is afterall around 500 thousand iPad app versions with their iPhone counterpart app version, and Apple hasn't even started or announced to their developers that is what is going to be happening. If you were an app developer, then you would know that it would take many, many years for Apple's developers to combine the two existing app versions into one physical app. Plus xcode hasn't been changed yet to accommodate that yet. Plus Apple still goes out of their way to get their developers to create separate iPhone apps and separate iPad apps. Therefore it will s safe to say that Apple is NEVER going to make a 2 in 1 foldable like Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold 4. Also Android OEMs are on their 4th iteration of foldable's, and still Nothing from Apple. I will bet a BILLION dollars at this point, that you will NEVER see a 2 in 1 foldable device from Apple, period. Your only option if you want to buy a 2 in 1 iPhone foldable, is going to be purchasing an Android foldable. Because you will NEVER see a 2 in 1 foldable from Apple at this point.

[@siddhantgarg6899]

@@sgodsellify its gonna take time but it will happen

[@BillyPhilipRwoth]

Foldable phones are just as pointless as touchscreen two in one laptops. Apple should stay away from these gimmicky gadgets!

[@kurzeful]

Why ask about Apple when Samsung is the king of Foldable phones. At least when they do release one, the whole galaxy will know Samsung first Apple by 5 to 6 years.

[@Anthob22]

Apple is going to squeeze as much as they can with the current gen… they kno the hold they have on people.. we give them no reason to Innovate

[@王虎知]

I dont think foldable is more interesting than vr

[@harshav8157]

@@王虎知 strongly disagree. Except for minor convenience of having a bigger screen, foldables offer nothing else. VR is a whole different area in itself