Where’s the Porsche Market After the 2024 Florida Auctions? | Tech Tactics Live

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On Wednesday, March 6th at 8PM EST , Vu Nguyen welcomed David Whitlock of the Stuttgart Market Letter to the studio to discuss the current Porsche market after the Florida Auctions. David tracks Porsche pricing and visits many of the auctions to inspect the cars. Tune in and see where the Porsche market is heading in 2024.
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1:09 Start of show
1:55 Guest introduction
2:30 Show Agenda
3:09 What is Stuttgart Market Letter?
6:50 Where is the Porsche market headed in 2024?
11:50 What effect did Moda Miami have on the Amelia Island auctions?
13:06 Audience questions: What effect does mods have on a car’s value?
14:15 How are the online auctions doing in 2024?
15:22 Value of cars that had Additional Dealer Markup added to the price.
16:21 Are ICE cars values going up because of the EV’s are coming?
17:05 Audience questions: Thought on 911 GTS Cab that sold for $66K on BAT?
19:59 Audience questions: Is the 356 or early 911 market softening because the age group that owns them are aging out?
22:52 Florida Auction review - 1966 906 at RM Sotheby’s
24:25 Florida Auction review-1971 914/6 GT at Broad Arrow
25:27 Florida Auction review-1959 718 RSK ‘Lucybelle III’ Spyder
28:50 Audience questions: Market status on the 987 Spyder and 987 Cayman R?
30:20 Audience questions: Market status on 964’s?
32:00 Florida Auction review-1973 911S Targa at Broad Arrow
33:05 Florida Auction review-2005 Carrera GT at Bonham’s
34:34 Market on recommissioned Porsches?
38:15 Buy, Hold or Sell? 996 40th Anniversary
39:34 Buy, Hold or Sell? Early SWB 911’s
40:40 Buy, Hold or Sell? Late 997.2 Turbo Manuals
41:30 Buy, Hold or Sell? Hold family Porsches
41:57 Audience Questions: Which 997 Turbo do you recommend?
44:15 Audience Questions: Why are you partial to 996’s
45:11 Audience Questions: What era GT3 is the best value?
49:41 Audience Questions: Thoughts on Cayman base models?
51:00 Buy, Hold or Sell? 993 Targa
53:01 Audience Questions: What car would your wife buy?
53:26 Audience Questions: Why isn’t there much auction data on restored 944’s?
55:27 Audience Questions: Long term outlook for GT4RS?
56:35 How do race cars do at auctions?
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@ptt1273
@ptt1273 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Totally agree about 356 and early 911s being poised for a new generation of enthusiasts to discover- Vu described my journey exactly. One note- the 993 Targa you featured, the one owner was Seinfeld. They talked about it on an episode of Spike’s podcast the week before that sold.
@PorscheClubofAmerica
@PorscheClubofAmerica 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@owenoconnor2700
@owenoconnor2700 10 ай бұрын
Nice interview Vu, many thanks to David for his opinions, loved the sentiment to keep that treasured family P car for the kids! Wish the generation before us had done that!
@PorscheClubofAmerica
@PorscheClubofAmerica 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@frank_987
@frank_987 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the interview gents - appreciate the market insight.
@PorscheClubofAmerica
@PorscheClubofAmerica 10 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@wolfandmare
@wolfandmare 10 ай бұрын
As an appraiser focused on the Porsche market with a specialty in 356s, I have to respectfully disagree with the assessment of results for early cars at Amelia. I have no records of a 356 Continental selling at a live or online auction for $300K in the last 4 years. Split window Pre-As, yes absolutely, but not Continentals. I inspected that car in person and while it was nice, it was not a concours car. Prices on bent window 356 coupes have been really stable for almost a decade. Auction houses vet the cars (to an extent) to ensure there is clear proof of ownership, it’s as genuine as can be determined from the records, etc. and they detail them to ensure they look good. But many of these cars are accepted for sale without an auction specialist ever setting their eyes on the car. I was able to view every Porsche at Gooding, Bonhams, and Broad Arrow easily during the weekend, but I was there to work and not party. The 356s on offer were not the best cars this year. Only one car was exceptional and it was a no-sale at Gooding: the 356 Carrera GS/GT Speedster at a $1M high bid, but I believe that’s a result specific to that car. Most of the 356s were #3 or #4 cars. I can’t believe Dave didn’t mention the 1958 356A that sold for WAY over value at $257,000 at Gooding! It was in fair condition, a normal and not a Carrera but 100% original and unrestored. The early 911s similarly sold for (or were bid to) right on the money values. The 911S Targa mentioned in the video was a good car, but not great. My clear takeaway from Amelia is that the market has retracted to pre-pandemic pricing for everything but the most exceptional special cars (like the Porsche 935, Canepa 959 or the Gulf liveried 918) and frankly all the auction houses had estimates that were highly optimistic. Bidders were smart at Amelia in 2024 and paid top dollar for only the best Porsches. The last few years of frenzied buying haven’t permanently set prices at a new high.
@timothyerrington8877
@timothyerrington8877 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure David had other "Sell" examples beyond just the 993 Targa but Vu, you didn't let him finish 😎...
@PorscheClubofAmerica
@PorscheClubofAmerica 10 ай бұрын
Sorry, we ran out of time. Hopefully will have him back soon.
@SportsCarAdvisors
@SportsCarAdvisors 10 ай бұрын
well done.
@PorscheClubofAmerica
@PorscheClubofAmerica 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hughmann1908
@hughmann1908 10 ай бұрын
It funny, I never really like the looks of the 964 when I had my SC, now I think they are gorgeous 😊
@rayborg7378
@rayborg7378 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting indeed.The 356 s prices are still beyond my budget , you just can t have it all.If you re into Porsche we all like a 356 .
@PorscheClubofAmerica
@PorscheClubofAmerica 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@HailCaesar-lm4bq
@HailCaesar-lm4bq 10 ай бұрын
Something’s things might be along a channel gradually then they break and go fast one way or another
@ot5122
@ot5122 2 ай бұрын
😮
@crissignori7482
@crissignori7482 10 ай бұрын
964 & 993 turbos ..... no comments ..... really????
@billnorblat4047
@billnorblat4047 10 ай бұрын
The market will go up with the stock market and crypto. So the next 2 years prices will rise.
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