Great vid. The Taycan recommendation is absurd. They can absolutely drop more.
@mattdedasc Жыл бұрын
One only needs to look at the Panamera depreciation curve. Or any car in the same category.
@overbuiltlimited Жыл бұрын
Agree. The Taycan is a maintenance time bomb. Buyers are smart enough to know that. Once they are off warranty they will fall to nothing.
@freddysardinas1351 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t buy any electric cars. They are a one time use and disposable after the warranty expires. Hell no!
@mattyp3119 Жыл бұрын
They 💯 still are
@basher1285 Жыл бұрын
A lot of love for the 997.1 and .2. The turbos in these models will at some point go silly crazy like the 993’s did, they’re classed as classics already, yes we are that old 😂 great vid, thank you.
@GuardsRed996 Жыл бұрын
I got myself this year a X50 manual 996 Turbo with the Aerokit and over 25 X-Codes. Best decision ever, ain‘t gonna sell that one ever
@Andy5c Жыл бұрын
What's 25 x codes?
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
Some bit of kit only 60 turbos came too UK
@GuardsRed996 Жыл бұрын
@@Andy5c X-Codes are exclusive options you can fit your Porsche with. Mine for example has every trim piece made out of carbon, everything is leather, all contrast stitching is guards red, the speedo dials are guards red too etc etc. It even has a mechanical diff and spacer from factory
@AB0BA_69 Жыл бұрын
Must be nice having money for such expensive toys, bro. Hope you actually take it out of the garage every once in a while 😂
@GuardsRed996 Жыл бұрын
@@AB0BA_69 yes, I have some other cars but have mostly driven the Turbo this year
@stevenrance5320 Жыл бұрын
The 996GT3RS remains the best 911 that I have ever driven. The pinnacle analog driving experience
@BobbyAngmalaysia Жыл бұрын
i bought a 996 C4S Cabriolet recently. It's the newest 911 with the broad fat rear reflector bar look like that of the 993, 964 and G Series. For those who want that big fat rear light bar look, 996 C4S is also the only one with frameless doors. I completely covered the huge indicator lights, drilled a hole on the side of the rear tail lamp, and move the indicator bulbs down to emphasise the fat rear light bar look. Just did a 6,000km run-in to thailand's legendary Mae Hong Son loop with 4,088 corners with the car, after an engine rebuild that fixes the bore scoring and replacing the IMS with European Parts design.
@kriskalpa Жыл бұрын
997 GTS!
@IIVVX Жыл бұрын
Had a 997.1 Turbo before, gorgeous car but I didn’t get on with the awd. Drive one before you commit. Recently got a manual buckets 991.2 GT3 and I absolutely love it. It’s a keeper!
@MrKenn93 Жыл бұрын
Always find these videos entertaining and interesting... Especially with all the love for the 997.2s!
@JJL206 Жыл бұрын
This video is one I always look forward to at the end of each year. Thanks, Lee…! With new (base) 911 Porsches pushing $150K (USD) there are plenty of great pre-owned options in the under $50K range. Next year consider adding a fourth category…under $25K, just to see what the experts think?
@TimelessCoupes Жыл бұрын
997 GTS Manual Coupe. Thats if you can find one! Buy it!
@Andy5c Жыл бұрын
997 getting a lot of love. For 40k whats the one to get a gen2 (but cant be too fussy over spec at this price) or a well spec/manual gen 1???
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
The gen 2 has engine problems as well now that time is getting too them if you can get a 4 it's a great experience in all conditions
@Andy5c Жыл бұрын
@DanDan-hj2pp oh really I thought it was just the gen1 with the IMS scoring issue!!
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
Gen 1 does not have ims it's bore score it's in all engines and eventually will show up the gen two are getting on a bit now all over 12 years now and are suffering from things . I have a gen 1 997 4s and did the full lee Jenkins experience on all cylinders and it's the best way look for a car that needs a rebuild on a good price lots of hard graft but otherwise you will be in the mid 40s with something that will need work eventually overtime the all need shocks and and some coolant pipes. But a 4s is a cool drive .and there is lots of cars out there claiming the have had a rebuild don't touch a engine with steel liners on the rebuild I have had a failed rebuild good luck from Paisley
@Carrera-gp9od Жыл бұрын
@@DanDan-hj2pp Paisley ?
@stephenSF Жыл бұрын
@@DanDan-hj2ppwasn’t aware of that.
@Carrera-gp9od Жыл бұрын
I’m seriously considering a 997.1 3.8 . Only one that’s had a full rebuild however . I think the .1 look better and sound better than the .2 . I love the lobster claw wheels too .
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
Hi pal steel liners will not work on open deck blocks I have seen some good attempts and some poor attempts and a lot claim too be done by top builders ( but no proof)
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
I like the Carrera classic wheels
@Carrera-gp9od Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen one in a specialist Hartech liners , pistons etc I’m from Paisley too by the way 👍🏻
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
@@Carrera-gp9od hi Carrera god only take on a harteck engine if you can get a s then throw on GT3 throttle body and a cotton panel filter and 200 cell cats and it's sound incredible I put the titanium exhaust on cut out over 25 kg
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
You don't see to many round Renfrewshire there is one on auototrader in howood
@niall3973 Жыл бұрын
997.1 Turbo MT for me. Incredible amount of car for the £££. There are only 6 for sale on Autotrader. So seemingly getting rarer and rarer. I also get the feeling the Turbo badge meant a bit more on the 997.1 than on subsequent 911 iterations. The proliferation of the GT cars have perhaps cast a little bit of a shadow on the Turbo named models.
@apolloandratti7922 Жыл бұрын
Even in the US 981GTS with a Manual is extremely rare. Currently there are only 4 listed for sale across the US with a manual and all are black or silver, except for one in Carmine Red. Not surprising as the 981 GTS had lower production numbers than the 981 GT4. @15:50
@timessix8434 Жыл бұрын
I had a manual 981CGTS, ordered from new in 2016. Sold it in 2018 to make way for a 991.2GT3 manual (ofc). I love the GT3 to bits, but man, I miss the 981 a lot, the realxed handling, the size, the sound!!!
@tomw6719 Жыл бұрын
Great insight from your experts. Happy New Year!
@neilgaydon5430 Жыл бұрын
The 718 GTS 4.0 is the best sports car Porsche currently makes - handling, fun, daily, perfect size for UK roads, power you can exploit, gem of a N/A engine you can't get in modern 911's unless its a track GT. If you need to scratch the 911 itch you must,. I've enjoyed five (993, 997's, Turbo S etc), now have a GTS 4.0 Boxster which looks better than 911 Cab & drives better than most 911's.
@Speedking2022UK Жыл бұрын
Have to agree I have the cayman version
@robburton8462 Жыл бұрын
A lot of good answers there but the Taycan isn’t going to stop going down anytime soon. In 10 years the battery will be shot and a replacement will probably write the car off
@mattabell3657 Жыл бұрын
In the US the Porsche market is very inflated at the moment. A local dealership has a new Cayman GTS 4.0 marked up 20k over MSRP and would not budge on price. So I went and bought a 2007 997 Carrera 4 with cash and plan to drive it until the wheels fall off. Or until it developed bore scoring…
@velcingilles37568 ай бұрын
I have a 997 c2s gen 1 manual in fantastic condition and a lot of work done to it, and I love it. Yes, the turbo is insanely quick but for our roads, honestly I don't know why you'd bother... For the track, a Cayman S track prepared gen 2 and you'll have more fun than many other more expensive cars...
@porscheg50 Жыл бұрын
A lot of focus on investment. Why not buy the CAR you want to drive and have in your garage?
@9WERKSTV Жыл бұрын
On the contrary, the narrative here has mainly been about value for money as an overriding theme.
@jermainerobinson70984 ай бұрын
Great video very interesting 👏🏽🥂
@darrenhawthorne2258 Жыл бұрын
UK prices are sweet in Australia we get smashed with Porche pricing on any year !
@abagley2334 Жыл бұрын
997.2 Turbo S….yes massively overlooked.
@stephenSF Жыл бұрын
Massively overpriced. I’d rather a 992 c2s. The performance is probably similar but in a newer package.
@abagley2334 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenSF Overpriced within the Porsche range? Yeah ok, very informed opinion there!! Please go ahead, enjoy the 992 C2S.
@abagley2334 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenSF I’d love to hear the top 5 reasons why it’s ’massively’ overpriced. Please share.
@GrahamPatterson-w4j Жыл бұрын
Great end of year summary Lee. Have a good one
@kyleclaypole5396 Жыл бұрын
hi love the 911 997 gen 2 and gen1
@sirz258 Жыл бұрын
Great video this. Really some advice, what would you go for out of these 3? Taycan 4s, 911 991.1 4s, 99.1.2 4s, or a Panamera 4 e hybrid, finally a 992 2s. What would people go for? Budget is around £50k- 65k
@niall3973 Жыл бұрын
I'd probably go for the 991.1 C4S personally. For the budget you should be able to pick up a really nice example with a full Porsche OPC/specialist service hist and with a reasonably low mileage. You'll probably be comfortably under budget too.
@sirz258 Жыл бұрын
@@niall3973 appreciate the advice. I really like the 991.4s, what colour would you go for? Also they look amazing with certain alloys, like a spoke design.
@niall3973 Жыл бұрын
@@sirz258 It's an elegant car as opposed to flashy in my eyes, so I quite like the slightly subtler colours like Agate Grey Metallic and anthracite brown metallic. Not mad on Guards red for this specific model. Silver and Basalt Black are rather common. I quite like Plain Black. But certain combinations of Interior + Exterior and brake callipers just work perfectly, so I couldn't discount any combo. I really like the Carrera Classic and the Turbo Alloy wheels.
@sirz258 Жыл бұрын
@@niall3973 what are you currently driving or have you got plans to buy a Porsche?
@niall3973 Жыл бұрын
@@sirz258 I have a Manual 997.1 Turbo. I had a 997.2 C4S previously. There is a temptation to try 991 ownership but I'm not sure enough yet to make the move. I like the size and growing classic status of the 997. But 991 is probably the better daily car.
@leobrown6875 Жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting on my porsche Cayenne gt turbo hybrid with all the extras hopefully early feb
@1972pjc Жыл бұрын
Need advice. Is my low mileage , well specced fpsh 2015 991.1 n/a GTS pdk worth holding onto as an investment?
@9WERKSTV Жыл бұрын
Sorry to say but no. For a full-tilt investment grade car you should look for a very rare GT car, or a model with a numbered-production run.
@radioeye14 ай бұрын
I think they 991.1 GTS will out perform most of the cars mentioned and you don't have to pay out the nose for it. It is the last 991 NA excluding the GT3 that you will enjoy driving and not let it sit in the garage. Life is too short!
@niall3973 Жыл бұрын
😂 Paragon picking the Carrera RS and the Carrera GT..... now I wonder what they have in stock at the moment🤔
@Praticus Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder why when there’s far more classic cars but like you say they’re wanting to drive the price
@johnbirt9180 Жыл бұрын
Why do you never mention base models. My base 997.2 is about the same performance as the 997.1s. But it is a much better car with the DFI engine, interior and suspension upgrades. The main point is the engine does not suffer from the .1 problems and is considerably more economical. I can get 60 mpg in a motorway cruise.
@nickrondle Жыл бұрын
60mpg? Really?!
@encoreunefois1X Жыл бұрын
Great video to kick off the new year with.
@jokkejens Жыл бұрын
Not a single word of the 944 turbo or 968? 928?
@karvapea50 Жыл бұрын
Im trying to buy manual 996 Carrera in 2024😌
@johnmitchell2269 Жыл бұрын
981 Cayman GTS Manual 997.1 911 Turbo
@retro-wreck Жыл бұрын
I have a cayman R pdk one of about 250 made ❤
@DM-MayBee Жыл бұрын
Great insight and some valued info. Many thanks
@ferenzprohaska5839 Жыл бұрын
i believe 991.2 carrera T will increase in price in the following years. fewer made than gt3 and not just a stripped down carrera like some people say ;)
@exc911ence_channel Жыл бұрын
The Taycan can't drop any more? What a foolish thing to say considering that all EVs depreciate like a rock, and will be valueless once their batteries come due for replacement.
@DarkClosetOfTheMind Жыл бұрын
Man are the prices better in the UK vs the US, even after calculating the 27% currency difference. I'm jealous.
@views409 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video!! Cheers!!
@michaelw7438 Жыл бұрын
993 if you can find one.
@darrenhawthorne2258 Жыл бұрын
Still love my 718 great value for money 😊
@BerendBouwknegt Жыл бұрын
Why there are only porsches from 50k because there are interesting porsches between 10 and 25k also.
@hmk911 Жыл бұрын
Agree, 944 Turbo S for example
@9WERKSTV Жыл бұрын
Category 1 is "best Porsche UP TO £50k"…
@lkearney7299 Жыл бұрын
As mundane a thought as it is, does some thought have to be given to the Euro rating of cars and thus their viability / usability with regards paying 'pollution' charges when travelling through the UK and Europe? As the moment, the 991 and 992 range which is Euro 6 is free of this charge.
@kszendi Жыл бұрын
3.2 Carreras seem to be a great deal right now
@BixenteDelBosque Жыл бұрын
it's crazy how low your local market is low compared to France (thanks to our great ecological taxes...). Here you can add 25K to most of the prices I heard in this video for the same models...lucky you!
@SandeepSingh-tp8xh Жыл бұрын
Great video
@stevey-nwas1230 Жыл бұрын
AM EVEN MORE CONFUSED NOW ON WHICH CAR I WOULD LIKE TO BUY FOR 100k??? I want to drive it to enjoy it and sell. It in 5yrs and hopefully not lose more than 25k when selling it
@mattdedasc Жыл бұрын
It will be a Taycan 4S with extended warranty when they crash to mid £30s (Q3)
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
Keep smoking what you have 😅
@mattdedasc Жыл бұрын
@@DanDan-hj2pp will do
@DanDan-hj2pp Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@realdata61166 ай бұрын
Porsche 928. Only sports car ever to win Car of the Year
@cp4512 Жыл бұрын
Great cars to buy as an enthusiast to keep and drive, but 2024 going to be a really bad year for investors…….
@freddysardinas1351 Жыл бұрын
The 997 GT3 is definitely a car that will keep going up and eventually will double in price. They are currently a bargain compared to the RS and the driving experience is 99% the same.
@dirkpalmer10676 ай бұрын
Earlier Gen EVs will almost always plummet in value due to rapidly increasing tech. New ones have to cut price, which leads to the used mkt. That's just another reason this MAD RUSH to EVs is assinine!!!
@krihanek117Ай бұрын
Taycan vs a GT3, hmmmm... is this suppose to be a hard choice? Electric cars are like computers, the older tech will always suffer.
@porsche911g Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t heat up new buyers for speculating with Porsches. They all will burn money, especially with all „new“ standard Porsche‘s such as 991 (especially with PDK) or 997 (even GT’s) or all Caymans. In a few years these are just „old“ ICE-cars as millions out there. If, THEN a real classic oil-cooled, manual shifted Porsche not later then 1998.
@0xFluke2 ай бұрын
Taycan looks crap
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
Porsche overpriced
@maddie33859 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos! 👍