"Where's The Punishment?!" Ally FUMES As Oliver Escapes Consequences After Arsenal Controversy!

Should Michael Oliver be referring in the Premier League this weekend? talkSPORT's Alan Brazil, Ally McCoist and Shebahn Aherne have their say!
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[@Doen5488]

Thank you Ally! Correcting Michael Oliver and Darren Englands errors should not fall under the radar. Its wrong for PGMOL and those involved to put the spotlight on the fans/pundits reaction to the ref/VAR disgraceful decision without their own errors not being addressed. Mikel is only human. The media are continually questioning why he/Arsenal arent winning trophies when poor ref/decisions frequently happen in their games. So i dont blame Mikel for his frustration.

[@kingkenzokwansa]

Spot on

[@J88HNT]

The threats aimed at MO happened 3 weeks before this game. They are using it to skew the narrative.

[@yorygibson-rc1lw]

Like they always do the of abuse that I have got line when I have stuck for arsenal over the years for bottling it, cry more, and varying others lol I just tune them all out now and it is not only other fans it's arsenal fans as well. Web should be sacked and PGMOL to be recognised so we don't have these shity disgusting decisions in really good games.

[@cheviidevii]

1. When Players Make Consistent Mistakes They Get Sold. 2. When Managers/Coach Make Consistent Mistakes They Get Sacked. 3. When Fans Make Consistent Mistakes They Get Ban From Stadium. 4. *When Referees Make Consistent Mistakes They Get Kept, Protection And Sometimes Promoted To Higher Positions.*

[@amarettodisaronno5488]

PGMOL Dem kakksakkinmuddafpakkers !!!

[@stephencharles6932]

This OLIVER fella is NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA !!!! So where was this abuse happening? I don't get it.

[@kritikal1993]

That’s what I said. Show us the receipts!!

[@sammybeck4855]

So when Gareth Southgate says he gets abuse or any player they're telling the truth but when it's a referee they're lying even though they're the most hated people in the game. Didn't know the only way you can get abuse is online by the way. Saddo you are.

[@a.ychristian3562]

​@@sammybeck4855 Two things to note: Southgate, Saka, Sancho, and Rashford all received abuse online and it was very prominent; the BBC reported on it, there was clear evidence. Second thing is that they directly referenced online abuse in this video, "keyboard gangsters". And I have yet to see any reports on this outside of PGMOL's. If he is receiving death threats then it's a crime and should be treated as such, which means we cannot make conclusions unless we have seen evidence.

[@criticofthenarrative1382]

It's called deflection, they are deflecting unwanted attention off of themselves and making arsenal fans as the bad guys

[@Ifudnthvedaaccentuameatrider]

@@sammybeck4855calm down Karen jesssus😂

[@TheMrArsenalPodcast]

Still find it amazing how the car Bomb threat to Michael is being pinned on Arsenal fans when it’s got out that actually that particular threat came from Man Utd fans after the 2-2 draw with Liverpool the other week now to be clear I don’t agree with that behaviour at all or any form of threats or abuse for that matter but I find this lazy and irresponsible from the media

[@kevinpillay6103]

All Arsenal fan tv shows driving the abuse. You guys are always moaning and whinging, and Arteta is also a huge driver of the entitlement you guys feel. Refs give bad decisions all the time to all teams, but we don't see other fans jumping up and down like you lot.

[@All3cannons]

⁠@@kevinpillay6103 lol mate you ain’t got a clue. How is this Arteta fault 😂. Abuse is wrong and can be dealt with. But we are not using it as a deflection tactic to shield the obvious wedge referees are creating by their arrogant decisions. Mr Oliver has a clear bias against Arsenal and it shows in his decision making, the PGMOL do not believe they made a “bad decision” by the way…they in fact doubled down. An independent panel had to stop the madness, we can’t keep protecting these cowboys.

[@UphillGardener-ly5sh]

Come on mate, you obviously listen to Talksport, even Simon Jordan, who is as far from an Arsenal supporter as you can get said Oliver has given an inordinate number of poor decisions against Arsenal, and that there is evidence to "suggest" he has a negative bias towards Arsenal. If Jordan is prepared to say that live on national radio based on observation, why would you not think Arteta had also noticed

[@ece2178]

They constantly threaten death on everyone, no other club is as bad as arsenal

[@dan7972-k9m]

@@kevinpillay6103has an ref given your team 8 red cards in the space of 5 years with most of them being controversial?? Don’t think so. Pull your head in.

[@sanchido36]

Michael Oliver and the VAR should face some sort of punishment. Otherwise this will just continue.

[@Perthaussiegooner]

The threat that the PGMOL put out was 3 weeks ago, they are just trying to link it to Arsenal, shame on the PGMOL and media for spreading the wrong information

[@olivermorrell6400]

they just want to smear arsenal fans. this stinks of corruption, peg arsenal back as clearly they have been the best team in the league the past 2 seasons. facts.

[@Chris-Oyema]

What, I just found out that the D threats Michael Oliver received was 3 weeks ago after Liverpool game. Why was it mentioned by the PGMOL as if it was top do with Arsenal?

[@philipmarsden7104]

Attempted deflection and an attempt to change the discussion. I personally find it confirmation that corruption is at work because there is zero interest in the truth. If such a lack of interest persists, we may well find out that fear of threats is the only thing that might be keeping referees honest- how perverse and wrong would that be? I am convinced that something like a betting system lies behind PGMOL and VAR behaviour. I believe an investigation is vital to the integrity of the game because no club knows they will actually be treated fairly.

[@PaulC-ov1un]

Because everyone is scared to upset loserpool it's pathetic to be honest

[@yorygibson-rc1lw]

​@@philipmarsden7104 I totally agree there are to many f ups and no consistency to how they punish a team/player all the better firms shoved down our throat by sky and any other media it just can't be anything else. Maybe this inincident and the cooty one can show us what is going on.

[@Marcus-oy6up]

The 1st step is to admit that a mistake was made and NOT double-down

[@fahimhussain1105]

Arteta is the first one to chuck it - sorry what????? Watch every one of his interviews He carries himself with integrity Shameful comment

[@dreamingpain]

Now you understand who the media and the league is against

[@Normandy7]

Cant even believe oliver was lined up to ref the Arsenal v city game again anyway

[@kthomas22]

He won't have been, that's misinformation. They never do teams 2 weeks in a row. But the fact he'll be reffing at all is a joke

[@garycod4-n1g]

@@kthomas22 not saying your wrong, Neville however has said on his podcast it’s a disgrace that MO has been taken off the Arsenal/City game lol

[@kthomas22]

@@garycod4-n1g That's because Gary Neville is absolutely clueless haha

[@GunnerNLD]

So if the didn‘t make that shambolic call on MLS, he would‘ve refereed Arsenal vs. City?!? THANK GOD he‘s been moved. Please never ever, ever - ever - call this man the best referee of the league. This League has major problems with it‘s officials!

[@antonc2180]

He is protected from accountability.

[@dadsrs6019]

Oliver was paid 20k by the City owner, to officiate games in their country. Massive conflict there

[@scott506]

Although I agree Arsenal have been on the end of some awful decisions from Oliver, Probably more than most, but he’s made terrible decisions against other clubs as well! I’m baffled how Oliver is meant to be the pinnacle of English Refs! He reads from his own rule book with zero consequences!

[@makei89]

Which makes him both biased against arsenal and very incompetent referee 😂

[@jbye14]

Really why even have the PGMOL even.

[@Ifudnthvedaaccentuameatrider]

So city and Chelsea always have a get out option in case they can’t spend another billion

[@zencollectiongallery]

The really shocking moment for me was Gomez got yellow 😂😂😂😂 what a joke

[@kezmankezman758]

and that was reluctantly from Oliver even though it was a far more nasty tackle than the Skelly one ✌🏼🙏🏼

[@makei89]

Which proved without a shadow of doubt that he is biased

[@sextonblake435]

Players get book pay a fine or they get reared carded and get a suspensions and a fine yet a ref can cheat yet he gets nothing

[@lkn3526]

Here we go with the "cheating" arsenal fans are such babies

[@KrypticTMG]

​@@lkn3526who do you support.

[@ghmacnay]

How did the referee cheat what I've seen of the tackle it was a professional foul and he racked his studs down the players leg if it was done with more force there wouldn't have been any arguement about it being a red card

[@ece2178]

VAR could have interfered and didn't why aren't you angry at them for not doing their job, classic numbskull arsenal fans

[@remkol88]

Hope IKN3526 can define what cheating is, since he knows it all! How do you define one team subjected to a disadvantage for the opposite team to gain advantage? It is called, wait for it,,,,,, CHEATING!

[@KrypticTMG]

Whats crazy is, after he's dodgy desicions last season when Arsenal played city. They were going to give him the same game again, it's only because of this poor desicion against skelly that Arsenal are lucky enough not to have Oliver again.

[@sulaymanbajo4043]

What Wenger said English are untouchable they do what they want imagine if arsenal lost that game no apology nothing

[@johnmcloughlin3397]

You all laughed at the time but her was right, it's all going to the surface

[@RoyPeters1]

Her? 😂​@@johnmcloughlin3397

[@Papa5murf1]

Michael Oliver should never referee in the Premier League ever again - this wasn't a one off mistake, it's just one in a long list of grudges he has made against Arsenal

[@gooner4life279]

Ally the only pundit with balls to speak the truth if players get punished for mistakes and their actions have consequences why not the same for referees and officials ?

[@andrewcois]

Oliver doesnt have socials and he recieved these death threats from the united vs liverpool game, 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@forevergooner4400]

We are curious to know where is Oliver getting all this abuse when he has no social media? Are people mailing letters to his house? 😂 This is just another PR bs.

[@forevergooner4400]

For those interested to know the death threats came 3 weeks ago after the Liverpool game, not this game 😂

[@misterman6578]

The PGMOL still gives the prestigious Merseyside derby to Oliver - go figure. 🤬

[@ScottHanna-n7w]

Ally knows… 12 pens 8 re cards against Arsenal… 0 pens 0 red cards for city… come on man at least be a little more discreet

[@meridaohara6453]

PGMOL and their Webb of lies!!!

[@DeepestAbyss]

You can't punish Oliver for his on field decision if he wasn't sent to the monitor for another look. The VAR operator is the person who should be punished here, not the ref.

[@kamilkala3464]

Dont be fck stupid he knew what he doing aswell !!!

[@michealkwanaite1408]

They are together in this.

[@majbeardd1905]

They are one and the same in terms of their how poor they all are!

[@majbeardd1905]

@Blankblankerson440training don’t fix bias bud!

[@majbeardd1905]

@ thank you for your considered reply, I used to be one of the conspiracy guys, however watching games from all over the league, has shown me it is nothing more than ineptitude from the officials. VAR is a complete joke the way it is used in England, in this case I agree that maybe additional training might be the way forward. However Oliver has had more than enough time to gain experience and grow in his refereeing, however I fail to see any improvement over time! In fact I am inclined to say he has gotten worse, think Doku on Mccallister, cause that was also him, Man Utd vs Liverpool, again Oliver! Sometimes all the training in the world won’t make one sliver of difference, because the person receiving the training is not fit for purpose. Hope you have a good day.

[@dan_b8982]

PGMOL did not lift the ban, they did what they usually did - backed the ref even though everyone knew it was wrong. It was the independent panel that lifted it. Howard Webb is an ex-cooper and it shows. Never admit fault. Never apologise.

[@SajadBaroo-o7k]

What's worse is the VAR could not go against a clear and obvious error by the ref

[@mehallica666]

They could. They just chose to look the other way.

[@SajadBaroo-o7k]

@mehallica666 which show pgmol is not fit for purpose. They back the ref when an independent panel in a short time over turned the decision, speaks volumes. Without sounding over dramatic such decisions can mean a team stays up or gets relegated, a team secures champions League spot or not, disgusting

[@mehallica666]

@SajadBaroo-o7k VAR needs to be an independent body, unaffiliated with the PGMOL and not bothered about upsetting the referees.

[@SajadBaroo-o7k]

@mehallica666 totally agree, not my mate tailor

[@djkevinoleary]

Not the first time they've done this, the referees this season have single handedly derailed Arsenal's league title chances, find it strange that all sending offs were in the first half, Saliba, Trossard, Rice, Lewis Skelly, I'd say the Saliba one was the only possible red but there was a similar incident that same weekend in the Liverpool/Chelsea game, the Saliba clash of heads penalty, so many decisions have cost us points!!!

[@stup4531]

No Arsenal done that themselves really they play like stoke for fuk sake. Never winning the league with Liverpool playing the way they are

[@sonnyloffy8804]

@@stup4531you are absolutely wrong. Imagine if the refs targeted Liverpool the way they did Arsenal, they are not going to win the league either.

[@stup4531]

@sonnyloffy8804 lol remember when Arsenal got away with playing basketball vs Liverpool lol, or the karate 🥋 kick maccalaster got vs city, or the offside for Diaz vs spurs?? Arsenal always crying. Like blaming the ball in the fa cup. My goodness crowd of bottlers

[@djkevinoleary]

@@stup4531 wasn’t you top of the league last season 27 games into the season, what’s that make you??? 😂😂😂

[@stup4531]

@djkevinoleary 12 players injured team wasn't good enough.. but Liverpool win something nearly every Year. What about Arsenal?? Still celebrating the community shield 😁 also Liverpool like all the other big clubs have won the champions league 😂

[@abubakarrjalloh4037]

This is corruption from Oliver period

[@row_afc2289]

He was getting death threats after the United Liverpool game but the PGMOL weren't outraged about those, only when they are being called out by everyone in football

[@michaelbaa9193]

'Arteta condems Oliver's abuse' ??? What kind of abuse is Oliver into..? Self-abuse? David Coote type.. cocaine abuse?

[@Sparkl5466]

It wasn't a "mistake" - that's the issue! He intentionally sent him off, as he has done 7 other Arsenal players. Please stop excusing this as incompetence, it's way more serious and targeted.

[@ste4392]

Tbh I don't know a club that doesn't think Michael Oliver is biased against them. He's just shite

[@user-sp5rf8ps5g]

@@ste4392 Man City don’t with the 1 red card and 0 penalties against them whilst paying him £20k to ref in Abu Dhabi and avoiding even a Yellow card for Kovacic for a nailed on red in a HUGE match vs Arsenal.

[@Sparkl5466]

@@ste4392 he's reffed Liverpool and City over 100 games in total and issued one red. He's reffed Arsenal 50 times and issued 8 reds, plus more yellows than either of them. It's about Arsenal, nobody else.

[@ste4392]

@@Sparkl5466 fair enough, he's shockingly biased against Man Utd too

[@adamrice617]

The referees are such stars nowadays, I think they should be accountable and be made to explain their decisions!

[@user-ft9rz3fi4y]

Referees all over the world know there is no accountability anymore, my friend is are ref and he thinks he can also try to get away with making a good bit of money on the side from “mistakes”

[@khalil7708]

😂

[@ostevoostevo1592]

The PGMOL( Company Ltd ) is not fit for purpose and should be fired at the end of this season. The Premier League should replace it with the best referees from around the world...no English referees or VAR officials because of probable bias. I also think the VAR officials' identities should not be known to the public and specially unknown by the referees.

[@Steve-uf8pk]

I believe Howard Webb, Michael Oliver & Darren England SHOULD be charged with bringing the game into disrepute by the FA……

[@rm-kx8et]

The abuse he got was after liverpool utd game not arsenal. The pgmol pulled the abuse out of their ar.. to cover for the corrupt oliver.

[@anderslarsson7426]

Was not his family threatened ? Is that enough for you.

[@CROSSNSHOOT]

Its nothing to see here😂

[@alexcraig5788]

Absolutely spot on folks! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@murdock2012]

Scottish people have always been brutally honest and truthful about their opinions

[@1jord4n]

He isn’t on social media so please get your facts in order

[@ps5andstuffhere]

Good question

[@tonybain8526]

Why are sport officials not drug tested just like sports men and women or is it ok for officials to take drugs with no consequences?

[@sean5811]

Why do they think Michael Oliver would be punished. He still doesn't think he made a mistake and neither does his boss Howard Webb

[@haha4581]

4:06 So, Mr Oliver allowed to make mistakes but the manager are not even allowed to show his emotions? This lady is completely nonsense.

[@sugarsaint]

Where was all this fall out when Oliver decided that a fly kick to the chest in the penalty area "isn't a penalty" last season ? Get a grip

[@dpbugg01]

“Guarded by police” Biggest lie I’ve ever heard

[@overcorpse]

Michael Oliver has made no mistakes when it comes to Arsenal. It is pure intent.

[@abiodunoni420]

Did she just say managers shouldn't show emotions?

[@1980harns]

As Arsenal fan, I genuinely think this has been blown out of proportion. Had this been another ref other than Michael Oliver or Anthony Taylor this wouldn’t have escalated to what it is!! The decision has been overturned and rightly so. The biggest concern for me is the inconsistency of VAR Gomes’s second tackle was just as high, ultimately it led to a red card. However, if you look at both tackles, they are give or take identical!! How can one be a red card and the other a yellow?

[@vpateldpt]

VAR should be punished , maybe not Michael Oliver.

[@bingbong4848]

So if VAR is the main problem why should the ref be sent to the championship Ally? How do you measure the magnitude of a mistake to decide when such a punishment is warranted? You would be banning refs every week if you go down that road.

[@jonathanjohnstone7351]

The red could ask too it again. Say I’m thinking red, can I check that to ensure I’m right. So it’s both Ref and VAR

[@kamilkala3464]

He fck knew what he doing !!! So stop this fck nonsense, he was so close didn't even think twice that red card was in his hand before skelly commit a foul.

[@guaranteedgains5158]

Shouldn't the VAR room in the game be solely accountable for this as the decision to overturn was in their hand. A 4 year old can tell it isn't a red, Oliver in that moment through his eyes might of thought it was red.

[@GeeksofMucklebee]

It was said on another channel that the death threat was levelled at Oliver after the Liverpool vs Utd game. Arsenal have been attached with the subsequent abuse. All is wrong, but then again so was Oliver. The everyone makes mistakes does not work as PGMOL and Oliver have not admitted any mistakes.

[@davidsaiz6399]

Can’t say Arteta’s reaction could’ve fuelled abuse when he literally said “it’s so obvious you don’t need my words”.

[@kieranhiggins3243]

Managers are only entitled to their opinions as long as it doesn’t criticise the FA, Premier League and the PGMOL. If they truly air their views they will face fines or touch line bans. That’s every Manager not just Arteta.

[@MrTesh47]

Thank you Ally for putting it out there about consequences

[@ostevoostevo1592]

The same referee was in charge during the Liverpool / Man City game where Jeremy Doku , studs up, kicked Mac Alister in the chest and wasn't even booked....A photo of that incident was apparently shown as an example of dangerous play, but also shows a clear bias in favor of Manchester City who Oliver has never given a red card to.

[@uzesgooner2336]

We need the best officials from around the world.

[@reeceb4973]

Spurs fans would argue their loss to City was positive... another "only Spurs could" situation 🤣

[@jamesalandixon]

Leave it out man, it wasn't even a bad decision.

[@manushnathoo7344]

Oliver should be given a 3 match ban...this can't go unpunished

[@TJay96]

I don’t blame Michael Oliver as much as the people in VAR watching the clip and giving a red! There are no excuses with VAR!

[@xXiiOriGinZXx]

After his performance in arsenal vs city last year how on earth was he originally assigned the same game this season? The PGMOL are ruining football!

[@rossdoonan6220]

Do they realize that the “death threats” were 3/4 weeks ago and not related at all to the Arsenal game!! It’s only coming out now to try to cover up what Oliver did.

[@kingf4158]

Exactly. No accountability.

[@KTan-u2v]

I don't recall this much attention when xhaka was given the same disgraceful abuse many years ago! Ridiculous and disgraceful.

[@ezigwe]

What is the woman saying manager should watch what they say? Plus 1) the death threats were from the draw between LFC & ManU 2) I can't find any social media threats

[@haddasbenchetrit394]

That social media abuse is, a deflecing tactic from pogmol, to frame the fans.

[@Private_NE_Man]

Oh now you call for Oliver punishment 🙄 All you MSM blaming Arsenal fans for the threats to protect the useless ref

[@nightmarewyvern3223]

Great video.

[@gonufc]

Punishment? He's a ref that made a bad decision. I don't want "Punishment". The VAR people that backed him up are the ones who should be looked at. How can VAR say it's fine if the PGMOL later say it was incorrect?

[@danlewis5977]

We all knew he wouldn't be punished. He's the golden boy of the PGMOL

[@faili2133]

Even as a non Arsenal fan what Arsene Wenger said in 2017 about the english referee's is right the referee's in this country think they're all untouchable and their has been no improvement to this day. We all use to love watching highlight matches on Motd but even that is hard to watch because now all we ever watch are the pundits every week discussing about the level of incompentance of the PGMOL's and how BAD the VAR is

[@jeremyevans8014]

Even though it was a shockingly bad decision by Oliver, how the hell is Darren England getting away with this? He was able to watch the incident over and over again, yet bizarrely, didn't have enough intelligence and backbone to recommend to Oliver that he just have another look at it. That is a lot worse in my opinion.

[@user-om2fg7yh6s]

Respect to Ally for bringing up the real issue, unlike that simp Jim White who’s clearly very friendly with the PGMOL

[@jamesbailey5530]

Also the death threats happened after the ManU Liverpool game. Nothing after the Arsenal game. So the PGMOL is deliberately trying to change the native from another mistake from their referees

[@anderslarsson7426]

The fans need read the rules.

[@donrambo9888]

Tottenham fans would not agree with that wise man

[@user-vl8iw1666]

Thanks Ally

[@conorpp1]

I watched Ireland v England U21 rugby international last night. There was an incident where English player was penalised for deliberate knock on. He said penalty + yellow card and asked video ref to confirm. Video ref reviwed the decision and recommended penalty only. The conversation was live on TV and rhe ref decided on pen only. The right decision took 9nly 25 to 30 secomds to get to. Why cant the PL have the same level of transparency and professionalism? It would improve the game so much if we removed the eggregious and poss8bly game changing ertors that can be avoided.

[@SnowMan-qp7gc]

No accountability for Oliver now the PGMOL Has done an OLIVER TWIST here 😅😂😅😅😂😅😂

[@DGRADE11]

Can someone explain to me why Oliver was even lined up to ref the city game! It’s laughable at this point!

[@nickkowal6537]

Oliver isn't the problem refs can make mistakes in the heat of the moment. The VAR staff need to be punished

[@gqqnerrenqqg4899]

So this referee did an hit and run and now the police went to his house and gifted him a brand new car. Only in England and English media 😂😂😂😂

[@Aaron87]

Producers where in Alan's ear screaming for them to stop talking about it. Cowards

[@phantompatient5033]

Do managers need to be silenced because of abuse Oliver experience 3 weeks prior to the awful sending off at the weekend ?

[@ulfanfinneriksen4643]

He should get a three weeks vacation, and some kind of counseling. Punishment isn't what I would call it, but consequences for sure.

[@robleeuknhl3345]

Its Var to blame Oliver. I got to see it once

[@chrispalmer7778]

PGMOL don’t believe that the decision was wrong 🤣

[@StevenDewar-j6r]

Am a Liverpool fans from Scotland

[@sapete1936]

Oliver couldn’t go on and make the same mistake again if he is not refereeing Arsenal. There lies the problem.

[@jamiegrant9462]

WHY IS NO ONE SREAMING CORRUPTION

[@RBafc]

So everyone has to be careful managers and players but this doesn’t apply for refs? Correcting a decision is not holding them accountable! Major calls in error should be awarded a suspension and fine! Why are the refs so protected? Why are they not held accountable for their actions?

[@ulfanfinneriksen4643]

It's always bad to lose.

[@EarlBailey-n2p]

No accountability