Where To Build A Bridge {Episode 04}

The fourth episode in a series about 1957's '12 Angry Men'.
In order to win somebody over to your way of thinking, it's not enough to be reasonable or persuasive. Goodwill must be established before an agreement can be established.
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[@mokvid]

I don't comment much. I have been silently enjoying your critical analysis of one of my favorite movies using your lens of argumentative analysis. But I have to say, this episode is one of my favorites and something so fundamental to having a productive argument. I feel it is so crucial to know, learn and discipline yourself to build good will and bridges in arguments during this cultural, social and political climate. Will be saving this one for rewatch. Thank you for your work. Edit: thank you Mr. Counter Arguments :)

[@StaticSkyTV]

That is an amazing collection of actors in that room.

[@montycantsin8861]

That's it. I'm watching it again tonight.

[@stevenmoore1237]

What Dela David stated is exactly what I was going to comment as well. I was very impressed with this video’s analysis. Good will is something that I’ve found to be very powerful in coordinating with others to solve problems and form relationships, and I really appreciated the formal explanation of the topic!

[@MrPatters]

Over a body of water or a canyon I suppose.

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

Maybe the occasional building connection if it's a heavy population

[@seiban8455]

If you need to make one road go across another road without messing up traffic, it helps there too.

[@EgorTimatkov]

Hey, don't spoil the whole video

[@jacobdoesstuff8383]

It’s generally recommended by society.

[@OlliOtter]

God dammit

[@matoussizzling3867]

This Channel Is THE Reason i'm getting into politics. So if you ever hear about a dictatorship in Middle Europe you know who to thank.:-)

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

Well, it's not like Europe does well with keeping their freedom

[@matoussizzling3867]

@Q Victoria no, Czech Republic:-D

[@consciouscactus]

dictatorships do not seem like such a good idea to me.

[@bendkok]

@@matoussizzling3867 Don't you mean Czech dictatorship?

[@matoussizzling3867]

@@consciouscactus IT Is when i'm the dictator ;-)

[@coolpatrickandryan]

Twelve Angry Men is one of the greatest movies ever made.

[@stormhawk3319]

8 made his agenda not about him but about the accused boy. When the preliminary vote was called he was aware there and than he was the lone man and wisely didn’t act in anyway self-righteous or condescending but just appealed to the other jurors compassion and sense of perspective. That earned the slow respect from 9,5,11,2 & 6. Even 4 treated him as an equal.

[@ub3rfr3nzy94]

This is something I found out a few years ago. I used to get into arguments online all the time but one day I had enough. One argument was between me and two others, two to one. I was tired of getting outraged, stopped arguing and asked one person I was arguing with about themselves, were they studying or working, if so what job or degree? I got into a conversation, found things we had in common and the hostility went away. We started to argue in a more contructive manner after that, no insults and we even apologised to each other. The third person wasn't interested in chatting and he insulted me, the other guy defended me against what was now his former ally and he changed sides. You can win arguments by establishing goodwill, it's very powerful actually. It's a lot harder to be angry with someone online when you see that they're human. It's a lesson I learned in real life too. I knew this one person who was nasty to me for no apparant reason. I treated them well, included them in conversations and they stopped being rude and hostile towards me. That being said I still don't know why she was like that, I didn't even do anything lol.

[@andremrh7690]

And here I was like, man CA is taking his sweet time with the next video and BOOM! Nearly a 20 minute vid. Quality over quantity any day, but you deliver both!

[@Magicdfox]

André Rodríguez Twenty minutes would speak to both quality and quantity I would say! Definitely was good to see it this afternoon.

[@bb5k947]

Well firstly the means and methods of a bridge's construction all depends on the type bridge. If the bridge cannot span over the water (usually doesn't) then it will need intermediate supports, often called piers, but when engineers talk about piers they are actually referring to the supports sticking up out the water. It should be noted that a bridge deck can simply float on top of the water without any piers at all. This is the most efficient type of bridge: it simply lets the buoyant force of water resist the bridge deck's weight. This type of bridge is called a pontoon bridge...and could simply be a line of canoes chained end to end. The big problem with these are that the pontoons, the floating sections, tend to decay with constant exposure to water and lose their buoyancy, the bridge has no horizontal support to keep it straight (it slides around on the water's surface), strong currents/tides/waves are tough to deal with, it prevents boat travel, and the bridge surface rises and falls with the water level. So pontoons aren't considered permanent and are used almost exclusively in small temporary bridges (like military combat bridges). For permanent bridges the most common approach is to sink a pier down into the earth below the water--allowing for shorter bridge spans. If the water is relatively shallow, and the loads not too great, individual piles or a precast concrete pile group can be driven through the water and into the riverbed. Piles traditionally were timber soaked in preservative (creosote being common)--basically like telephone poles driven straight into the earth. While wooden piles remain popular (and can be quite durable in anaerobic conditions--some piles buried in the muck of Venice in the middle ages were almost perfectly preserved in the mud), round concrete piles are considered stronger and more durable for big applications like bridge piers. There are barges equipped with pile drivers that can drop anchor and drive (hammer) a pile or a pile group down into the mud under the water. Above is an image of a battered pile group driven through the muck and down to firm soil or bedrock. Battered means the piles splay outwards slightly to better ensure the overturning stability of the piles. This is especially important where strong currents or possible collisions with large boats might compromise a pier. Here are some typical piers supporting a little highway bridge over a river. In cases of large bridges requiring substantial supports much more extensive foundations are needed than a few simple piles. These are inevitably cast-in-place concrete foundations. Up to a certain depth (I'm not exactly sure when they become impractical to shore), what's called a cofferdam can be built around the planned pier foundation site. A cofferdam is a basically a three or four sided box built in the water that is made nearly water tight (completely water tight is next to impossible). The water is then continuously pumped out of the cofferdam lowering the water level inside the box until earth is finally reached. This allows men to work on solid (well it's usually a muddy mess) ground.In cases where very deep underwater foundations are needed sometimes what's called a caisson is used. A caisson is a box that uses air pressure to keep the water out. This is extremely dangerous work and early workers in caissons could only work under the high atmospheric pressure for a matter of minutes at a time. If they left the pressurized caisson and immediately stepped back in normal atmospheric conditions they would develop an excruciating condition called 'caisson disease'...later called 'the bends' by divers who surfaced too quickly. In cases where very deep underwater foundations are needed sometimes what's called a caisson is used. A caisson is a box that uses air pressure to keep the water out. This is extremely dangerous work and early workers in caissons could only work under the high atmospheric pressure for a matter of minutes at a time. If they left the pressurized caisson and immediately stepped back in normal atmospheric conditions they would develop an excruciating condition called 'caisson disease'...later called 'the bends' by divers who surfaced too quickly. Caissons are rare today, but were more widely used a century ago. Caissons were used for constructing the foundations for the piers of the Brooklyn bridge. So at this point you're probably curious about the bridge part...well that's the icing on the cake after all the hard, dangerous work of building suitably anchored piers is done. The bridge deck's construction depends heavily on the materials and type of bridge. The two basic types of bridges are self-supporting span bridges which are made of elements with sufficient stiffness and strength to span from one pier to the next and suspension bridges, where the deck is suspended above by a continuous cable. Beam type bridges include pre-stressed or composite box girders for intermediate span bridges commonly seen on highway overpasses and causeways, or large truss bridges where the spans are longer because a pier cannot be made deep enough in the middle of a channel or would impede boat navigation. The bridges all have in common the fact that they resist gravity loads by either internal bending moments, or internal axial forces in the cases of trusses. Here's a simple beam type bridge. The beam in this case, a log, has adequate strength to span across the creek without the need for any piers. The second category, which is capable of the longest spans, are suspension bridges. Iconic bridges like the Golden Gate, the Brooklyn, and the Verrazano-Narrows are all suspension bridges. These bridges span across large distances where it would be impractical to put intermediate piers. The idea to use a cable to take vertical gravity loads and resist them by lateral loads at either end (tension in the cable) is not a new idea either. In a suspension bridge the piers are completed and then cables are draped across the piers, seated, and tensioned. They have to be stretched to something in order to stay tight--and so they are anchored to the earth. Ultimately all loads end up being delivered back to the earth. The bridge deck is hung from the main cables with smaller cables in manageable segments. Finally the deck is poured over the individual segments. Note the extremely delicate balancing act of cantilevering the bridge deck off the piers. Too far in either direction not only wants to make the pier tip over but also puts tension in the cable which will try to destabilize the other pier. You won't see this type of bridge built from one end to the other. Keeping the center of gravity near the piers is very precarious business... In the case of a truss bridge, a post-tensioned slab bridge, or a box girder bridge the sections are often floated to the bridge and then lifted into place by cranes on barges or cranes sitting over piers. Occasionally temporary 'shoring' will be used to support a cantilevering segment of deck. Anyway that should help you start with the question

[@dracomurdock6349]

tldr: Bridges are complicated, actually.

[@matthewstratton5821]

I’m really enjoying this series, keep it going

[@freedomofspeech2867]

He is teaching blind manipulation.

[@Supreme_Lobster]

@@freedomofspeech2867 none of what he is teaching works if you try to be manipulative and/or dishonest. It might work at first but people WILL end up noticing. So he's not teaching manipulation.

[@Capelett]

I'd disagree. I think people, especially politicians, need to see videos like this. If anything, the debates we see on tv by politicians are the ones that are really manipulative, using buzzwords, zingers and emotional points. If people debated through the methods shown in this series, then things would be much better today.

[@freedomofspeech2867]

@@Supreme_Lobster No. A master manipulator would do just as #8 was described doing. Notice how none of the tactics CA brought up have anything to do with the truth.

[@freedomofspeech2867]

@@Capelett No. They'd just become better manipulators. Actually, i think they already know this but just want to do it as little as possible. A politician won't succeed without manipulation because the voters get fooled by it. A politician would have to prove the populations voting methods wrong. But how do you do that fairly when the population doesn't listen to honesty and logic? You can't. That's why most people don't vote. There is no point when all of them are liers and manipulators anyway. Get real son. Then look and the like to dislike bar and get blackpilled.

[@cloudburstdrones]

The point is not to argue with the person but with the idea that person presents.

[@freedomofspeech2867]

Agreed. But that's not what CA is teaching here. He's teaching manipulation. All those points in the beginning, on the board, are irrelevant to the truth.

[@squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719]

No, it isn't. That's the ideal but this is ultimately a video on rhetoric to get people to your side not by reason but by tactics. You can be completely superb in debate and still be utterly wrong. Debate isn't so much about reaching truth if at all really. Like scientists don't really debate eachother rather they exchanged ideas and evidence and logical arguments. Not that they dont ever but they generally understand that it debate inherently is a competition rather than exchange of ideas.

[@freedomofspeech2867]

@@squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719 A debate SHOULD be just that, but it isn't always.

[@codyhanson1344]

@@squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719 you could also be completely right but if you don't utilize these tactics you might not get people to be persuaded by you.

[@possummagic3571]

Overall yes, but this video is about using respect and goodwill to turn people in favor of your argument.

[@Alberio1]

Your coverage of this movie has been some of my favorite content on KZbin this past couple of weeks.

[@lostwizard]

You know, when I first saw 12 Angry Men, I was riveted. After watching it, I was left with a sense of having watched something profound. After watching your vidoes on it so far (and a few others, some very critical of it on one point or another), I'm finding that the movie is far deeper than I initially gave it credit for. Now I find that I'm disappointed that I don't have it on video. I think I'll need to rectify that in the near future.

[@OLucasZanella]

Just watched the movie because of the other videos, it's truly amazing. I just disagree with one thing you said about number 3. I don't think 3 changed his vote because he admitted defeat, rather he realized his own history was clouding his judgement. When he rips his kid's photo I saw it as an indicative that he was saying the child was guilty precisely because of the crime in question (killing his own father, like an ungrateful son), which paralleled his own life: having an "ungrateful" son that had abandoned him two years before and never spoke to him again. When 3 started talking about his son at the beginning, I thought it was out of the blue and had no reason to be (in vain, like you said), but at the end I realized that it was the setup for that cathartic moment later on. A foreshadowing of sorts.

[@nunyabisnass1141]

Its strange, i got into it with a troll last week that i didn't know was trolling me, and this episode describes our interaction fairly well. The exchange ended because i think he felt bad that i never lost my temper and did my best to respond to everything he said with grace. Too bad many more sincere people don't or can't do that.

[@snowangelnc]

That's the awful thing about trolls. It's bad enough that we have people like Juror #3 that honestly believe in their own bad arguments. With the trolls, both online and in real life, we have people that are trying to manufacture the same problems, only this time they're doing it intentionally and for no reason other than that they find it fun. I don't understand how or why so many people find such satisfaction from doing that.

[@TheNatcon1]

I just watched the film because of your videos on it. Fantastically made and written. The only problem I have with it is some of the elements of the story seem just-so, such as #3's motivation for supporting guilty being easily explained by unresolved anger at his estranged son. It seems like every compelling piece of evidence is soundly refuted by some 11th hour revelation. This makes for a compelling screenplay, I'll admit, but seems to kind of cheapen the representation of real world juries where evidence is usually muddy and open to interpretation. But as you point out in your videos, the depiction of rhetoric is so spot on and the dialogue is a joy to listen to.

[@LordVader1094]

I think the film shows that if #3 was better at argument, they might have still come out with a guilty verdict.

[@Arkylie]

I don't think it cheapens the representation; rather, it points to the reality that some of the details that we are very sure about in one moment can prove to be very different the next -- that there can be explanations that we hadn't considered. It also points out that eyewitness testimony is unreliable (although, at the time, we didn't really know just *how* unreliable -- and it's kinda shocking how bad it can be). I think that this movie should be required viewing before every serious jury trial (anything that could put a man away for over a year, say), just to establish the idea that we're supposed to take this seriously. Could be accompanied with instructions to be reasonably polite with each other. There could certainly be a kind of film that dealt with muddier details, but I don't think it would be the same sort of thing. Besides, none of the "revelations" here are actually deal-breakers; the kid might still have killed his dad. It's just that they call in that reasonable doubt. (Personally, I have to wonder if they couldn't have brought the woman back and found out just what kind of eyesight she has. But maybe that's not allowed by the laws concerning jury trials.)

[@brenboberto2856]

1:35 somebody already made goodwill. It's down the street

[@AMuffler]

Bren Boberto thats what was thinking

[@formerctgovernordannelmall1452]

There are few content creators I have as much respect for as you. I know I comment stuff like this on most of your videos, but you deserve it, man! Keep up the awesome work, and I can’t wait to see the conclusion to this great five part series!

[@Dad......]

"He can't hear you, and he never will."

[@mjmal3741]

I have really enjoyed this series, I think these are some of your very best videos. I've loved this movie since I was a kid, but I never realized how deep it was

[@rattttooooo]

Exactly

[@laffy7204]

After a creative low-point, regretting that he feel he was wasting many of his episodes on not convincing others and instead pandering to the insatiable need of criticizing others he disagrees with for the enjoyment alone; he decided to make a comeback with one of the greatest analysis of KZbin of how to debate properly in all-time in hopes of helping others, not to just others avoid making the same mistake he did, but to learn how to debate properly. Bravo! Bravo! A person who've learned from their mistakes, unlike many others. At least, that's what I got out of the Meta-narrative

[@WeinsEarp]

The complete series is genius. A lot to learn and to think about

[@Israfel713]

I especially appreciate you pointing out that some of the reasons some of the jurors changes their votes wasn't due to pure reason or being swayed, but rather sometimes it was simply because they were tired, or remorseful, or spiteful. It's important to remember people are never purely rational actors, especially in circumstances where they're hoped/expected to be.

[@PhysicsPolice]

I absolutely love this video series! Inspired me to go re-watch the movie. It's just so good.

[@Jokestur]

This is probably the most underrated channel of all time. Also, they should teach this stuff in grade school, the art of critical thinking and debate. It's all we do in this world is talk and try to get to a better solution through debate - on the small scale and the large. So I believe that every member of a well-functioning society ought to know a thing or two when it comes to having formal discussion and debate.

[@Mical2001]

This is without a doubt my favorite series of videos on this channel lol

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

12:52 i love this delivery, the acting in this movie is so good

[@PlainlyDifficult]

Great video series one of my favourite films!

[@TheBatugan77]

Lee J. Cobb... "Tell them, will you?" "What is this, love your underprivileged brother week?" Genius.

[@peon9584]

We read this in class and I enjoyed it mostly for the plot, but I don’t remember what discussions we had about it. Watching these videos made me like 12 Angry Men more than I had before, but also wonder why I haven’t really taken anything away from it even though I was taught it in class.

[@ronnickels5193]

If it was taught in high school don't feel bad. People rarely take things seriously in high school, especially in literature class.

[@jwbbccp]

I used to run a small business, during which I developed a concept called the “Good Will Bank” - at its most basic, the idea is that we have a “good will account” with every other person. Every positive/supportive action is a deposit to the account, while every negative/destructive action is a withdrawal and and the only way to move a person freely (e.g. sales, customer service, etc) is to make sure that account stays in the black. To that end, “micro-deposits” of small kind gestures add up, such that when the time comes for an inevitable “withdrawal” (e.g. asking for the sale or having a service SNAFU) the account doesn’t end up overdrawn and good will is maintained.

[@joshuapatrick682]

14:11 one of the most beautiful moments ever put to film!

[@mr.aerial1885]

That scene lasted several minutes. Not only Begley doing his part, the others had theirs. These were phenomenal actors. You probably can't do that today. This movie had a stellar cast.

[@locustoffamine2644]

This video is a valuable lesson, notonly in a debate, but in life in general.

[@freedomofspeech2867]

No, this is manipulation.

[@AP-yx1mm]

@@freedomofspeech2867 Or your comment is manipulation? Freedom of speech doesn't imply FREEDOM FROM REASON!

[@Reine_Marina]

@@freedomofspeech2867 I can understand why you would think that. He is discussing debate tactics which don't necessarily help the truth come out, but I do believe that these videos are doing some good. They are encouraging civil discourse and debates where the arguements, not the people making the arguments, are the sole focus. Both sides should be open to changing their mind if a worthwhile debate is to be had. That is what counterarguments is telling us.

[@freedomofspeech2867]

@@Reine_Marina He is teaching none of what you say he's teaching except being more civil. Actually, he's teaching the opposite.

[@Reine_Marina]

@@freedomofspeech2867 How so? I might understand better if you provided some examples. I am finding your reasoning hard to follow. The impression I got from this series was much different.

[@nh3heathen348]

One of the best series of breaking down a movie I have ever seen. Wish this guy would come back

[@sk4lman]

12 Angry Men is a favorite of mine. Your dissection of the psychological twists and turns played out so brilliantly in this movie is a pleasure to take part in!

[@BAKAGAlJIN]

Reminder that Juror #3 blew an 11 juror lead.

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

10*, juror 3 isn't counted

[@jxomxo]

I love this series, mainly because I love hearing discussion on why 12 Angry Men is amazing and a great way of analyzing how debates should be handled.

[@marinoaristy5659]

This mini-series on how to debate using 12 Angry Men is simply put, a masterpiece.

[@jlmknight]

Amazing how much I missed when I first watched this movie. Thank you for the deconstruction! Time for a rewatch.

[@OwOHC]

I don't want these 12 Angry Men videos to ever end

[@makecowsnotwar]

This series made me rewatch the movie. I'm in law school and it's crazy how much juries are put in the place of perfect when it comes to their decision. Thanks dude.

[@ZALESANDDESTROY]

I have been loving these "12 Angry Men" videos you've been putting out. I think this should be shown in schools but those places don't teach anymore. Thank you for doing this debate analysis on one of my favorite movies.

[@DriesduPreez]

You have heightened my appreciate of the film and the art of debate

[@TheHeavyModd]

These videos have taught me a lot about debates. I hope that in the future I can use more goodwill in the debates I will inevitably have. Thank you!

[@Fif0l]

"I have. Now sit down and don't open your mouth again" is such a number 4 thing to say.

[@LegoSnakeproductions]

This is, in my opinion, the best video you've ever made, on the film 12 Angry Men or otherwise. My favourite film, my favourite channel and my favourite video, you are truly amazing Mr. Counter Arguments. Thank you

[@rhboomer]

i can honestly say that this video has given me insights, not only into this film/play, but also into my own interactions with people I disagree with. A++ presentation, and content. Please, continue with what you do. Especially in this vein, disconnected from modern politics.

[@Blackmore45]

the rebirth of this channel happening before my eyes

[@SturmAH]

This has been such a good series, I watched 12 Angry Men for the first time with a friend after the first two episodes and absolutely loved it. There is so much to gain from it.

[@Ladondorf]

I didn't really know how this episode was going to play out when I saw it on the episodes list but it ended up being one of my favorites. Brilliant stuff.

[@soren426]

This vid-doc series has made me appreciate the movie even more than I did before, and I thank you for that.

[@sajisama24]

It's incredible how much there is in this film. I really need to watch it already in it's entirety

[@d-m.n_--2]

Your new take on your videos has become so powerful to me that you are slowly changing my life. I have spent my life debating like 3 and 4 (mostly 4) in these videos and never understanding why people keep claiming that I am losing. I never understood the good will or the value of emotional investment in logical conversation. Thank you for this.

[@RandySaladbar]

I didn’t intent on watching this video, it was in my auto play but after a few seconds I was pretty hooked and watched the whole thing and I gotta say I learned so much and I’m glad I continued watching.

[@Talboy-p4e]

Classic flim Great for law students Beginners But seriously Great flum Excellent director and writer Great cast Best stars We had the best golden years back then 1960 When we had proper flims Great actors and actress back then My time machine going back to 1950 /60 /70 Especially black and white flims

[@malikevans634]

Good will seems so fundamental to a debate that it almost eclipses the need for a good argument. At least, so far as there's people who won't completely give themselves up to reason.

[@defvent]

I'll over this series. This installment was the best one.

[@TheHqextreme]

I really love your series on this movie. I fell like I learned something useful for my life and that is what i like most about it.

[@mytruepower2]

As someone who's been discussing tough issues online and in person for a long time, I've found that the tendency of people to respond to civility and a conciliatory approach to the issue greatly increases when you're talking to them in person. A large percentage of people who discuss these issues online do not respond favorably to this sort of approach, and will only grow less receptive and more incensed, the more you express goodwill for them. I do agree that attempting goodwill is worthwhile, however, even in those cases, because it speaks well of your side, and poorly of the person who treats your goodwill with disdain. Anyone else who sees, hears or reads the exchange will have the chance to notice this aspect, which can be even more helpful than actually *winning over* the other guy.

[@thoriso1000]

I love this series. Great content.

[@babarasul680]

This screenplay is a marvel of psychology. Thank you for taking the time to analyse it.

[@HarveyDroke]

Thank you. I’m watching all of these because I love these movies

[@acenine8149]

I went and watched this movie because of this series and it’s just as good as these videos. Great movie great channel keep it up

[@Ekircher5]

Yoir vids are very helpful when im trying to make a reasonable argument!

[@freedomofspeech2867]

He is teaching blind manipulation.

[@MouseGoat]

that is a reasonable argument. also i believe that is the point of this channel.

[@andrearupe6035]

I cant believe the videos on this movie have lower views than most your other videos....this stuff is fascinating and so well put together.

[@Dean7748]

This video was so good, I actually can't put it in words. Maybe this will help you understand where I stand after watching this video. I found your channel today. I've watched all five of your videos on 12 angry men as of date. This video amongst that great pool is the reason I just hit subscribe and turned on notification to know what more you have to say.

[@Fenifilms118]

I have nothing to offer but respect to ur analysis and best wishes for ur future. Just rediscover my fav film..from another point of view.

[@milesjolly6173]

This is a great analysis and explanation of a very important aspect of having a debate. Establishing respect and goodwill with your allies and opponents is absolutely crucial.

[@colourful8778]

I'm lovin' the jazz backing in this series

[@sylextvesh4823]

This series is absolutely fantastic.

[@sladikk]

IMO this is the best in the series so far and should be the first episode

[@insrtcowjoke]

Yet another great video from a great movie. Makes our US politics feel especially embarrassing, with how so many of out politicians seem intent on engaging in debate like a petulant child. Not _all_ of them, but enough of them for it to be shameful.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

This is actually really good advice if you really want to change someone's mind. You can't do that if there's nothing there. No respect or no,... well, as he put it, no bridge. There has to be some kind of either mutual respect or some kind of good will. Ridicule can be useful in very specific circumstances but certainly not when you're talking directly to the person who would be the subject of the ridicule.

[@lokky95]

Damn, I wish this miniseries was more popular. There's a lot of good advice here that I wish more people grasped.

[@thedamnbored]

I love these videos on 12 angry men so much. Thank you

[@thecryingsoul]

Just wanted to thank you for making me pick up this old film, A really interesting film about different personalities bouncing off one another, with not much to distract from it.

[@NatchEvil]

I am enjoying this series of your's to excess. Excellent work, friend.

[@rattttooooo]

One of my favourate series on youtube.

[@thanks5832]

Ive never commented on a video before, but this content is fantastic. Sitting through youtube videos for me is a past time when im bored, but these videos genuinely interest me and i watch until the end everytime. Good stuff bro

[@TonGolem]

This series is among the best I've ever seen in my many years on KZbin. Thanks so much!

[@francoisrd]

You are making such a comeback with this excellent series! Great work!

[@dunnowy123]

This series is so fantastic, it'd be great if you did more of these!!! This movie is a brilliant human drama, but the lessons you've pointed out are invaluable for real life, seriously.

[@chrrmin1979]

YES another 12 angry men video! Loving this series thank you!

[@smiley12343211]

PLEASE continue this amazing series. I’m learning so much about debates

[@michaelpisciarino5348]

0:46 1:00 Tread lightly, (1) Get to know your opponents (2) Demonstrate an open mind (3) Establish Goodwill 2:10 (4) Stall unnecessary confrontation 2:58 You can only do your half, you need support. 5:20 Jurors 8 and 9 - kindness - mutual respect. #5 changes 7:00 #3 Burned a bridge # 11 changes 8:14 Jurors 3 and 4 - uncaring - utilizing others 9:21 5, 8, 9, 11 Go to work 9:41 #2 and #6 change 11:59 6-6 split after #8’s arguing 12:43 #7 doesn’t want to play. No conviction. 13:36 #12 and #1 change 13:57 #10 destroys his reputation 15:02 #3 and #4 are left 16:10 #3 vs #8 Final battle 17:29 Before they became rivals, they got along with goodwill

[@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s]

I've always been rather socially inept. I'm very much an aloof, #4 type. I don't have common sense about these things, so I need analytical and experiential information to learn. Once I do, it looks like I've had this social common sense all my life. Basically, thank you so much for making this video. I've learned a lot. It's a lot to take in.

[@derpyditto9853]

always good to come back here too see this again :)

[@Maniac3020]

I know nothing about this movie, aside from observing that the acting and writing is very convincing and detailed. That's how to make a movie.

[@anthonypc1]

Excellent points! If only more of the passionate polarized online arguers would have figured out how to employ some of these principles to have more successes a couple years Before nearly all of the good will dried up. It can always still serve to improve diplomatic arguing for the various interpersonal contexts, and to have some motivational optimism for public discourse... but it feels like a much steeper struggle against the petty divisive pathologies that have become the prevailing culture of nearly every platform. Sometimes I doubt if most people being social media activists or screaming under signs at protests even care to be persuasive to anyone else anymore. We have to Care before we can actually get competent at convincing others. And of course, we only can take responsibility for how we conduct our own side of the communication.

[@zanearnold1337]

I don't watch this channel very often, but I have a feeling this will be a good one!

[@UTurn539]

This movie really is a masterpiece. Your videos prompted me to watch it for the first time a couple years ago, and it's a pleasure to rewatch these today ;)

[@EpicxNerd73]

Dude this episode is by far my favorite, and Im starting to get nervous because I don't want this series to end because its so good

[@Sp0nge5]

Holy cow, didn't catch 6:16 before, that's hilarious!

[@mankey2919]

I am in love with this series. Bravo.

[@jackbartlett4402]

Thank you. These videos are very, very important. Thank you.

[@TheSnakeEyezz]

It's been a while since I've seen 12 Angry Men but with your videos, I want to re-watch them. Also love the Vince Guaraldi introduction!

[@elliefaunt1447]

The series is great, but I find this video in particular to be phenomenal. Great work.

[@henrythegod6756]

These videos are awesome, thanks my dude.

[@joecombs7468]

This is a great movie. I first saw it 40 years ago. And Your analysis is brilliant.

[@tomasroque3338]

My problem when arguing is definitely that I think of everyone as an emotionless robot during debates, so I simply focus on giving the most rational arguments without thinking about how real people are persuaded.

[@Zombie-lx3sh]

Really good analysis. The one thing I disagree with however is the reason for #3 to change his vote. It's not because he can't fight alone, it's because he finally realizes that his failed relationship with his son was clouding his judgement and that the failure was his, not his son's. It was a very cathartic moment and one of the most powerful of the entire movie.