Where To Start Reading Batman Comics

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Degenerate Jay

Degenerate Jay

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@thequestionable1413
@thequestionable1413 4 жыл бұрын
There's so many years worth that it's nice to get feedback on where to start
@batmantheknight7862
@batmantheknight7862 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i started with year one.
@hughmungous206
@hughmungous206 4 жыл бұрын
My first ever Batman comic was The Dark Knight Returns, I then read Batman: Year One.
@sofiyanali2489
@sofiyanali2489 4 жыл бұрын
My first Batman comic was also TDKR!
@batmantheknight7862
@batmantheknight7862 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was year one
@shanevervoort8988
@shanevervoort8988 4 жыл бұрын
Batman Year One is the perfect comic to read for first time batman comic readers. If you enjoy that, move on to The long Halloween....Dark Victory....then The dark knight returns. All those are connected so it is the same batman throughout those comics.
@batmantheknight7862
@batmantheknight7862 3 жыл бұрын
@SlicKDaddY Read Batman year one. Then Batman Dark Moon Rising ( wich includes Batman and the monster/Mad monk) Batman the man who laughs then the long halloween
@Mun3001s
@Mun3001s 4 жыл бұрын
For new readers who already have an idea from the general cultural zeitgeist, Mun would actually recommend Batman: Hush. It is pretty self contained with its own standalone villain and storyline, while also giving pretty much an entire tour of the Batman universe. We run through enemies, allies, side characters, all getting at least some introductional narration from bats. It's made so you can understand what's going on even if it's pretty much your first comic. Mun believes it to be the best spot to just jump right in.
@EarthsGeomancer
@EarthsGeomancer 2 жыл бұрын
My house is haunted by a zeitgeist. 👻
@thed-train3468
@thed-train3468 4 жыл бұрын
If somebody wants to read The Court Of Owls Saga (which you should), I would recommend buying the Essential Version. It comes with Court & City (Volumes 1 & 2).
@Tatetv_yt
@Tatetv_yt 4 жыл бұрын
My first ever Batman comic was Batman the Court of owls
@gra9
@gra9 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 19, and I've probably been a Batman fan since I was 9 or so. My entry point was definitely Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, all of the many DC animated movies, and the Arkham Games. However, I always feel kind of insecure about calling myself a fan since, from middle school to today, I've only read Batman: Under The Red Hood, Batman: Hush, the first four years of the Injustice comics (if you want to count those), the first volume of the New 52 Court of Owls storyline (I bought it thinking it was the full comic), Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, and The Dark Knight Returns. I also currently own The Killing Joke, but I'm waiting until I finish another book to start reading it. Comics that are definitely high on my list of priorities would be Year One and Long Halloween. I've also obviously consumed a ton of other Batman related media, but in terms of comics, I could count them on two hands. I've been saying for years that I'd love to get into reading comics and, to be honest, I don't think I'll ever be a month to month reader. But, I'd love to read just enough to not consider myself a complete poser. Edit: Oh, and I've also read the first 7or 9 issues of the Arkham Knight prequel comics which I actually did read month to month until I gave up.
@Connley21
@Connley21 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the point that you made an effort to express all your feelings in this comment of yours that makes you a humble fan of batman
@initial_C
@initial_C 4 жыл бұрын
Year One was where I started and it's a great place to start. DKR right after too...Miller set the hook for me, Dixon and Grant's work on the Knightfall saga reeled me in. My first DC books were the Tim Drake Robin series though.
@ch3rrywave
@ch3rrywave 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so jealous of that setup behind you.
@djminibelly4427
@djminibelly4427 4 жыл бұрын
Are you excited for batman: Death in the family movie?
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason I'm not really is I never cared much for the choose your own adventure stuff. I play video games for that tbh.
@batmantheknight7862
@batmantheknight7862 3 жыл бұрын
🗿
@Nic_03_21
@Nic_03_21 4 жыл бұрын
For me personally, I would go with The Long Halloween and New 52 The Court of Owls along with Year one just to start it off. That’s how I did it.
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
I love it! Thank you for the recommendations! I think that it's good that more people are able to offer that versus just me.
@logabo8519
@logabo8519 4 жыл бұрын
Just noticed, since you hit 50k you’ve been growing way faster than you were before. And I just wanna say you deserve everything. Great video man!
@nathanieldavenport811
@nathanieldavenport811 3 жыл бұрын
I used to not like Batman. Now because of you he is one of my favorite superhero’s and I want to start reading comics for the first time
@oisin4604
@oisin4604 4 жыл бұрын
Me:has already started reading the character and loved it Also me: oooooooh jay uploaded yaaay gotta watch
@obiwankenobi3792
@obiwankenobi3792 4 жыл бұрын
+Degenerate Jay In my opinion Batman The Animated Series would be the best Batman material to get started with, regarding Batman television and movies. The show and the affiliated movies themselves go lengths to showcase to the viewer the true heart of Batman.
@jacks910
@jacks910 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Jay, this was very helpful! As someone who has never really dove into Batman beyond Batman centered games, movies, & shows. I didn’t even know some of these continuities, books, stories, and universes existed. But now I do, so I’m glad that you were able to explain everything in a way that was easy to understand.
@craigm86
@craigm86 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never read a comic only some manga. I got into Batman through the Arkham games and wanted to start reading the comics so I came here. Your extensive knowledge on this is absolutely mind blowing!
@petevenzal480
@petevenzal480 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Knight Returns animation was 10/10. excellent work.
@bryanmuyenzi5824
@bryanmuyenzi5824 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently started reading Batman comics like Year One, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, I just started Batman: Black Mirror and I’m gonna be reading Batman: Ego soon.
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
Nice are you enjoying the character!?
@bryanmuyenzi5824
@bryanmuyenzi5824 4 жыл бұрын
Degenerate Jay Me and Batman go way back when I first saw the Batman: The Animated Series on VHS when i was 5 years old,
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
Well I'm always happy to talk to a fellow bat fan. My love of the character actually started with Batman forever believe it or not lmao.
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
Take into account here that I was a young kid.
@bryanmuyenzi5824
@bryanmuyenzi5824 4 жыл бұрын
Degenerate Jay Not the best Batman film I admit but I respect that, at the end of the day game recognizes game. I hope you hit the subs your looking for and much support moving forward.
@justunseen_
@justunseen_ 4 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing comic book videos! I’m a comic reader and I feel that a lot of the comic book KZbinrs more cover the games and movies rather than the comics. Great work tho!
@intenseaction
@intenseaction 4 жыл бұрын
Dang this is crazy! I just got my first Batman comic the long holloween and have been interested in reading more. Literally ordered it yesterday haha!
@captainrexandrew1759
@captainrexandrew1759 4 жыл бұрын
Yayyyy another irl vid and wow you look great. I love Batman comics and would totally recommend Scott Snyder’s new 52 run. One of the best comic runs ever. I have a good old shelf full of Batman comics. I like year one but I honestly prefer zero year. It’s so unique and cool and riddler is really good. Anyway stay shway and awesome jay.
@mountbennis
@mountbennis 4 жыл бұрын
I like how every face cam vid he zooms out revealing more of his collection, eventually it will keep getting bigger even tho it’s not expanding lmao
@jacksonstockbridge8920
@jacksonstockbridge8920 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Year One is a great jumping off point. I think that was the first comic book i ever really loved. Plus the art is incredible
@stayhiidrated
@stayhiidrated 4 жыл бұрын
I started reading when the New 52 was created...its been a fun ride since. Love these characters
@KatieGimple
@KatieGimple 4 жыл бұрын
I would actually recommend not reading TDKR to start off, because while it is a really good story, it is a deconstruction of who Batman is, so it isn't as effective to someone who doesn't understand the core of Batman yet.
@hughjass7777
@hughjass7777 4 жыл бұрын
I would assume that's why you read Year 1 first since that fully establishes a lot of what Batman is about. Though most people can also understand deconstruction too without having a huge background. Plenty of first year comic readers still appreciate and love Watchmen for example
@bradenhogan2
@bradenhogan2 4 жыл бұрын
I say the same thing about Killing Joke. If you’re going to start with any deconstruction book, make it Year One because it’s actually the start of post Crisis continuity anyway so it’s a great jumping on point
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you're looking to start reading comics, you probably have a good enough understanding of the character to relate to TDKR.
@tylerwatkins3196
@tylerwatkins3196 4 жыл бұрын
I would say it would be fine if you watched the movies and cartoons
@JusRed48
@JusRed48 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. When I started reading Batman people were telling me TDKR and when I read it I found it kind of overbearing and hard to follow. I found Year One and The Long Halloween MUCH more enjoyable as stories to just jump into.
@jessehoste7917
@jessehoste7917 4 жыл бұрын
I just started reading the Batman comics, so this video is very helpful.
@MJWP2334
@MJWP2334 Жыл бұрын
This video actually helped me around the time this vid was made, now my batman collection and reading experience has been awesome, recently starting collecting and reading absolute editions and I feel like a kid with that oversized look and feel. Thanks for this vid existing as it helped me get through covid and some other crap I had and still have going on.
@-Teague-
@-Teague- 4 жыл бұрын
Could you also do a video on your favorite Batman comics?
@ethancastillo7582
@ethancastillo7582 4 жыл бұрын
Aight I see Jay flexin his mega vidja game and action figure collection... epic bruh
@scottsanchez8140
@scottsanchez8140 2 жыл бұрын
This is great. I sincerely appreciate it. I like how you give folks an honest take on your appreciation for the animated movies as well as the books. I am just getting back into buying graphic novels and trying to show my kids (13, 8, and 5) which are the coolest and easiest to access. (Some of them are obviously not age appropriate, but for my oldest, he has been appreciative) Thanks man. Keep up the great work.
@DarthBear356
@DarthBear356 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, I have been wanting to start reading Batman graphic novels for a while but was overwhelmed by the sheer number of Batman comics and just not knowing where to start. This has given me some helpful pointers, thank you so much.
@lordchungus1552
@lordchungus1552 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend Batman Knightfall too as well bc of the character defining moments.
@XaldenTheGreat
@XaldenTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
Flash up on the screen what I should google. That’s a lazy person’s request. But thank so freaking much man. I have been really wanting to dive in but the app isn’t intuitive for a beginner. Much love have a good one!
@alkirk6
@alkirk6 2 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest if you can to start by getting your hands on the Batman Comics from THE ORIGINAL RUN in the 30s/40s and go from there
@MichaelMitchell-uu7jk
@MichaelMitchell-uu7jk 2 жыл бұрын
(Comment as per video request) I appreciate this content. Thank you for this diving board.
@flibithagtaeghnrikgjnseikh2051
@flibithagtaeghnrikgjnseikh2051 4 жыл бұрын
His setup is soooooo cool tbh
@want.to.b3.gamer670
@want.to.b3.gamer670 4 жыл бұрын
What really got me into Batman was cartoon network's brave and the bold but I was a kid. Around 8 maybe younger. My first comic was flashpoint of Batman.
@thundy9124
@thundy9124 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this man I really like Batman but didn't know what to read
@lets_go_raps9835
@lets_go_raps9835 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Jay, it was really useful for me. I always wanted to get into reading the comics or at least some of them but I didn't know where to start, so this was literally perfect for me. Thanks for the vid
@Connley21
@Connley21 2 жыл бұрын
Because of you, I started getting serious about getting into batman. I’ve already bought batman year one and the dark knight returns 😁
@ragerbsp
@ragerbsp 2 жыл бұрын
thanks man ive been searching for weeks on where th hell to start. i just read year one and court ow owls yesterday ( so thanks now i know exactly what to order) will subscribe mate thanks!
@rydergore4469
@rydergore4469 4 жыл бұрын
I think that you should’ve included Hush and the long Halloween.
@spooder0080
@spooder0080 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question : Should I read the batman year one comic first and then watch the movie or vise versa ?
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
It's up to you imo as an either or. Theyre the same thing the movie is just less detailed.
@marlin2131
@marlin2131 4 жыл бұрын
Grantimus Prime imo, crisis on infinite earths is a lot of fun but it’s super complicated and the story behind isn’t all that great. If you have a good knowledge of Batman and want to expand out into the wider universe I would recommend the first run of New 52 Justice League comics (would have to check but pretty sure it’s mostly Snyder/Lee) as they are great for learning more about each member and it’s perfect for the way the group slowly expands outwards and you get to meet the wider universe supporting characters while also gaining good understanding of the core teams’ relationships with eachother. If you can track down the original copies too they include some other great titles like the Shazam origin, JLA and Justice League Dark, but if you aren’t interested in the current continuity then i seriously recommend the stuff that comes immediately before it. The Green Lantern stories Blackest Night and then Brightest Day are an excellent short history of the core universe (Blackest Night is more famous but i personally prefer Brightest Day). Once you have a good idea of those characters, Flashpoint is a really great AU to explore them in a new light and just a great story all-together
@marlin2131
@marlin2131 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend you work backwards from there and focus on characters you like, you can use wikis to find stories that involve certain characters more and fill in any gaps in information you might want
@TheIceMan117
@TheIceMan117 4 жыл бұрын
I have that same batman shirt, nice👌
@King-ot3dp
@King-ot3dp 3 жыл бұрын
seen the two mega man toys in the back and hit subscribe immediately 🤣
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 4 жыл бұрын
The New 52 Batman is a good place to start in my opinion that’s how begun and occasionally read older ones where I can
@thestarwarsman573
@thestarwarsman573 2 жыл бұрын
I think as an alternative to this video, you should do one where it’s a showcase of where to start with looking into the character of The Joker, who is actually my personal favorite character in comic book history, and I believe he has the greatest and most unique character dynamic with a hero I have ever seen (even more than any of Spider-Man’s rogues gallery). And if you want, you can pair him with introducing The Batman Who Laughs if you bring up his series within the Dark Knight’s Metal continuity. P.S. I just got started on the Scott Snyder New 52 books and I like it so far, but I have yet to see what horrible terrors Joker does to the Batfamily when I read Death of the Family (yes I know he starts cutting faces off).
@tythompson4794
@tythompson4794 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Been wanting to get back into comics after an 8 year absence.
@efanlangford4992
@efanlangford4992 3 жыл бұрын
Batman, is my favourite character of all time, always has been, always will be, but i dont exactly have the money to buy all the comic books i want, so i watch videos after videos going over every character and every story in the batman universe, yet, i still dont feel like a “true” fan, and i really really want to change that, i want to start reading as much comic books as i can, but its also hard to keep up with the latest issues, and tips on how i can keep up with them?
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 3 жыл бұрын
first off I wouldn't let anyone quantify what a true fan is for you. For example I have not read any comics in the last year. I'm still a fan of the character, but I think that the quality was really falling off for a while and I'm taking a break. there's plenty of ways to keep up with it but one that's actually underrated is checking out the library. Believe it or not they have a ton of graphic novels that can help you kind of catch up on whatever you want to read.
@efanlangford4992
@efanlangford4992 3 жыл бұрын
@@DegenerateJay thanks for the advice, it helps. Ill also check out the library. All ive done is search “most recent batman comic” or something and i hope to find something but nothing comes up, but i will take your advice, thanks
@blueblitz338
@blueblitz338 4 жыл бұрын
I love new 52 and rebirth Batman I’ve read them all and I love it
@Robert-wt6yy
@Robert-wt6yy 4 жыл бұрын
You should totally do another one of these videos but with Daredevil
@juanp.corona9228
@juanp.corona9228 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve been thinking about reading zero year for a while and i think im going to. I’d love it if you could cover green lantern in the future.
@arachnidantics2370
@arachnidantics2370 2 жыл бұрын
I think suggesting more stories such as the "Long Halloween", "Dark Victory", the Knightfall trilogy, etc etc would give a better understanding of who Batman is to a new reader. I'd suggest on recommending more runs too, and TV shows would be nice.
@lilnjdevil116
@lilnjdevil116 4 жыл бұрын
You're a great guy Jay
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man That means a lot! I don't know why you say that but I appreciate it lol
@jehriko7525
@jehriko7525 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I love your Faramm dark souls status, I have the exact same one on my desk!
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I love that thing! I was interested in the DXF statues for Dark Souls but they're way too much money now. At least I got that one from Dark Souls 2 black armor edition lol.
@jakepeterson9803
@jakepeterson9803 3 жыл бұрын
This really helped me figure out where to starts
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jake I'm happy to hear it! I hope to continue the series in the near future with another character!
@jakepeterson9803
@jakepeterson9803 3 жыл бұрын
@@DegenerateJay I’ve watched a bunch of videos like this and I think that I benefitted most off this one because of how much information you include 🙏
@shap9148
@shap9148 3 жыл бұрын
wow i love this guy
@jasonyu-gi-oh1056
@jasonyu-gi-oh1056 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much man for your recommendations. I have recently purchased the court of owls volume one. Glad I made made the right choice
@ventusvanitas7544
@ventusvanitas7544 2 жыл бұрын
You’re forgetting Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Hush, and other major stories.
@dansonfinklesheetz
@dansonfinklesheetz 2 жыл бұрын
3:10 you said it a year before the batman came out🤣🤣
@fakeextrovert2240
@fakeextrovert2240 3 жыл бұрын
Do year one l, Long Halloween, dark Victory, killing joke,death in family,dark night return
@kraziel
@kraziel 2 жыл бұрын
What a great useful video! Directly to the point! Lots of options. This is great. Thanks!
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 жыл бұрын
Year One is actually canon now.. With the last Metal event everything basically became canon (except obvious elseworld stuff like TDKR).
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 2 жыл бұрын
It's so weird to have both year one and zero year Canon though but yeah everything since doomsday clock has been kind of interesting with changing continuity back and mixing them together
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 жыл бұрын
@@DegenerateJay Yeah it definitely is weird fs.
@rudolph2046
@rudolph2046 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos Jay
@scream4364
@scream4364 4 жыл бұрын
Love the G1 Blaster, great video also! Thanks for the info.
@koalagaminghd3244
@koalagaminghd3244 4 жыл бұрын
If Jill see’s this, I’m doing as you ask and please don’t hurt my family
@flyingpigproductions5934
@flyingpigproductions5934 4 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@hughjass7777
@hughjass7777 4 жыл бұрын
@WayneFTW a channel mod
@magicaljill
@magicaljill 4 жыл бұрын
Only if you don't skip the ads
@superzaccucumber2234
@superzaccucumber2234 4 жыл бұрын
Another alternative to the comics I'd recommend (and I know I'm definitely not the first to say this but screw it) is Batman the Animated Series. It's where Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill got their start before the Arkham Games and is considered by many to be the definitive Batman. Only thing is it doesn't go into his origins too much though his character is introduced and portrayed perfectly without you really needing to know the details of how he got there. Plus all the episodes are stand alone stories so you can watch in almost any order you want.
@jamesdonaldson2726
@jamesdonaldson2726 4 жыл бұрын
Jay needs to do a facecam on the lets play channel
@tjderrff9280
@tjderrff9280 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you continue this series. Great video!
@thed-train3468
@thed-train3468 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you do more videos like this!
@sebbus
@sebbus 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 👍🏽 another great starter is the 90s animated series
@degeneratetrump3057
@degeneratetrump3057 4 жыл бұрын
My great friend Boris Johnson told me to start with Batman: Oddyssey. Sounds like a winner to me! VOTE RED!!!
@salahouamer
@salahouamer 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Jay!
@orlandoleon-thomas9786
@orlandoleon-thomas9786 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for this I really need this because im about to get into batman and hopefully the flash too.
@cathalmagee8372
@cathalmagee8372 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so likeable and informative. Love your Arkham videos, keep it up man ❤️🦇
@dotbryce9850
@dotbryce9850 4 жыл бұрын
Weird question but I’m only 13 years old and I was interested in reading a dark knight returns but I don’t know if it’s to violent for a teenager do you think a 13 year old could read dark knight returns
@DegenerateJay
@DegenerateJay 4 жыл бұрын
How used to violence are you? I mean there is violence and partial nudity in the book. I watched the movie when I was about your age. That could be a good place to start to see if you would want to read the book.
@ryanwhittaker2167
@ryanwhittaker2167 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the movie very young before reading the novel and while there is plenty of violence unless your squeamish it’s not a big deal. Read the parents guide on imbd if you want to
@dotbryce9850
@dotbryce9850 4 жыл бұрын
@@DegenerateJay thank you for the help
@shadowgames6164
@shadowgames6164 4 жыл бұрын
You should do one for Deathstroke too
@blacksotos747
@blacksotos747 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jay. If you want can you please make the next one be about red hood?
@willwazhere
@willwazhere 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and enjoyable!
@chikeiwobi7011
@chikeiwobi7011 4 жыл бұрын
Do you, do discussions on Batman costumes and gadgets?
@jackdibitetto8490
@jackdibitetto8490 4 жыл бұрын
i love this idea for a series I can't wait to see what it brings. also keep up the awesometacular work jay
@nickhall4849
@nickhall4849 4 жыл бұрын
The Long Halloween too
@difference3maker36
@difference3maker36 4 жыл бұрын
My very first comic I read was 232 aka the debut of Ra’s al ghul. But I want to collect more comics but what should I get should I get Batman 357, the hush story or the Bane comics
@jacobjones3916
@jacobjones3916 4 жыл бұрын
I'd start at Detective Comics #27
@bradenhogan2
@bradenhogan2 4 жыл бұрын
It really depends on what you like and why you’re interested in reading Batman. I definitely would not recommend Killing Joke first. I know it’s on everyone’s required reading list for Batman, but I really think you need to start with something that isn’t that deep into the deconstruction genre. It’s important to know WHAT they’re deconstructing. It’s like trying to get into a tv show and starting with the series finale. But a good deconstruction book to start on would be Year One if someone wants Batman because he’s gritty and street level and realistic. If you want a good noir detective story, The Long Halloween/Dark Victory is great. If you just like that Batman has such a great and large supporting cast, Hush is good for that. If you love the animated series, start with ‘70s Denny O’Neil (RIP) and Neal Adams Batman. If you like the “Batgod” (he can do anything because he’s Batman), read some Grant Morrison stuff. Court of Owls is a good one for a Batman who has been beaten down and has to exercise all his resolve to survive a situation. Also, movies are not comics, and neither are cartoons or video games. Comic is not a genre, it is an art form. The Dark Knight Returns is a pretty faithful adaptation, yes, but that only begs the question of why even do it? If it’s so close to the comic, why not just read the comic? If it were made to be viewed as a cartoon then Frank Miller would have pitched it as a cartoon. Same with Year One and Hush and any other direct adaptation. If you don’t care about comics and you just want a superhero cartoon or movie, sure check those things out. If you’re trying to get into reading comics, then just read the comic. Believe me, the art is better, you’re going to get more detail and more of the story, and by the end you’ll be grateful you didn’t first consume these stories through a mediator who was cashing a check rather than having that connection to the original creators who had the ideas that meant something to them
@robbyk7070
@robbyk7070 4 жыл бұрын
I think the point of the adaptations though was also for people who have reading difficulties or maybe are not as into reading but want to experience a character like was said. There's a weird gatekeeping in the superhero community between adaptations and original works.
@bradenhogan2
@bradenhogan2 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not directing it to people who don’t read. I’m assuming the video called “Where To Start Reading Batman Comics” is probably going to attract a) people who are interested in reading comics or b) people who already read comics. It’s not gatekeeping to say that the comic is better so if you don’t have a strong aversion to reading then definitely go for the comic. And even then that’s not universal. An exception is Under the Red Hood. The adaptation was written by the same creator and the second chance turned out to be productive and it’s one of the better DC animated projects. It’s one of the few adaptations I’d recommend over the original. But the main point I was trying to make is that cartoons aren’t comics. It’s an art form and it deserves to be respected as such. Just as animation is it’s own art form and should be treated as such. There’s not really an “animation” genre in movies or in comics, nor is there a “movie” genre in animation or comics. If comics can only be viewed in relation to film, then all they are is pictures that don’t move.
@dabossman5650
@dabossman5650 4 жыл бұрын
Can you give me some Grant Marrison Stuff?
@bradenhogan2
@bradenhogan2 4 жыл бұрын
@@dabossman5650 I would recommend JLA by Grant Morrison. I know it’s not a “Batman” book and unfortunately it’s tied to a time in the comics where Superman has a mullet and then turns into a weird blue version, but this is where the concept of Batman being a man among gods really picked up steam. If you’ve seen anything with JL and Batman in the last 20 years from Injustice to cartoons/movies to Lego Batman, I guarantee you Grant Morrison was an influence on it. If you wanted something Grant Morrison that’s more bat-centric and isn’t tied to continuity, Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth is a decent horror book
@dabossman5650
@dabossman5650 4 жыл бұрын
@@bradenhogan2 OH yea I read Serious house
@StarrySentinel
@StarrySentinel 4 жыл бұрын
I pove the Roy Burns pop
@danielmiles7666
@danielmiles7666 4 жыл бұрын
It's incorrect to say that Batman: Year One is not in continuity. As of Rebirth, the post-crisis stories are now canon again. New 52 is also in canon though. Early on in Rebirth there was weirdness with Batman referencing Year One and Detective Comics referencing Year Zero which, obviously, can't have both happened. But given that Batman and Detective are both canon and they both reference one of those stories... They're both canon. What you have to understand about continuity if you're trying to read modern DC is this; Something either is or is not canon entirely dependent upon whether or not the writer wants it to be and, as a result, you have to constantly be prepared to shift your frames of reference and accept that there will be no overarching coherence. Many people reference Dark Knight Returns as being something for new readers to look at and I wonder sometimes how much damage that's done to the popularity of Batman with the sheer volume of potential new fans who'll have been turned off by it. The style of Dark Knight Returns is completely different from what people who have seen movies or TV shows or played the games will expect from Batman, meaning it won't necessarily actually resonate with people who liked those, which is compounded by the fact that it's also not similar to the style of the majority of the comics, which in many cases would appeal to someone who'd enjoyed Batman in other media. There's a similar issue with recommending Scott Snyder's run (even if you're prepared to overlook that Snyder is exceptionally formulaic and takes a paragraph to say what could be said in a sentence without having a poetic quality to his language to make up for it); By the time you have Jim Gordon in a mech suit fighting an undead corpse re-animated by a "super power seed" who's trying to create a massive black hole in Gotham while Batman's lost his memory because he's been reincarnated by the substance which has made Joker immortal all along... It's just absolutely bizarre and bears no resemblance whatsoever to what people who are looking to get into it based on liking what they've seen in other media are going to be looking for.
@matsmagnussen
@matsmagnussen 4 жыл бұрын
This is so well written and true in many ways. I wouldn’t have recommended any of these except for Year One. Then one would go into The Long Halloween and Dark Victory. After those stories you could really read whatever you want, but most people are just in love with the character by then and would just read anything they can get their hands on (atleast I did).
@Dragonninja-bh8en
@Dragonninja-bh8en 4 жыл бұрын
Hey jay, could I just go straight into a death in the family, and then to under the hood? And what about batman : hush?
@NickthePobrecito
@NickthePobrecito 4 жыл бұрын
In order if you’re looking to learn about Jason Todd and that whole saga, read in order: 1. Batman: A Death In The Family (Covers His Years As Robin And His Death) 2. Batman: Hush (Covers His Return) 3. Batman: Under The Red Hood (Fully Dives In To What Happened After His Death, How He’s Alive And Where He Is Now, Also What His Goal Is And Vengeance)
@Dragonninja-bh8en
@Dragonninja-bh8en 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Esmail thank you so much!
@NickthePobrecito
@NickthePobrecito 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dragonninja-bh8en No problem, enjoy!
@blooddemonguy7734
@blooddemonguy7734 4 жыл бұрын
Well this has been really useful, thanks Jay!
@boop0122
@boop0122 4 жыл бұрын
I'd think it would be cool to do a guide for indie comics or at least the ones outside of Marvel and DC.
@alexadame436
@alexadame436 4 жыл бұрын
I have not seen it yet, but there's actually a five hour version of The Dark Knight Returns on Amazon Prime. I don't know if it's only available on there.
@sameerrajakumar
@sameerrajakumar 2 жыл бұрын
How about this Batman reading order? Batman year 1 Batman : The Long Halloween Batman : Dark Victory Batman : Arkham Asylum Batman : The Killing Joke Batman : Knightfall vol 1 Batman : Hush Batman : Batman Under The Hood Batman : Batman & Son Batman : Batman RIP Batman : Detective comics Vol 1 : Faces of Death Batman , Incorporated vol 1 : Demon Star Batman , incorporated vol 2 : Gotham’s Most Wanted Batman / Superman vol . 1 : Cross Batman & Robin vol. 1 : Born To Kill Batman & Robin vol. 2 : Pearl Batman & Robin vol. 3 : Death Of A Family Batman vol. 1: The Lost Kingdom Batman vol. 1: Hydrology Birds Of Prey vol. 1: Trouble in mind Catwoman vol. 1: The Game Batman & Robin vol. 1: Batman Reborn Batman Incorporated Batman Black Mirror Batman Vol. 1: The Court Of Owls Batman Vol. 2: City Of Owls Batman Vol. 3: Death If The Family Batman Vol. 4: Zero Year - Secret City Batman & Robin Vol. 1: Born To Kill Batman: Earth One Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Batman: The Dark Knight Strikes Again
@Rory_tttt
@Rory_tttt 4 жыл бұрын
If you are super familiar with all the batman games and movies - read 'Batman: The Long Halloween'
@melancholiclonging8641
@melancholiclonging8641 4 жыл бұрын
You are making comic videos now! Yay!!!
@paulpud4864
@paulpud4864 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is actually very helpful
@schmeps6825
@schmeps6825 4 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work jay i think i'll like this series
@lunchbox7337ify
@lunchbox7337ify 4 жыл бұрын
This is a huge help, thanks man!
@Father-Trev
@Father-Trev 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Jay. Keep em comin
@hybridrl3666
@hybridrl3666 4 жыл бұрын
Hey jay just some feedback I think you should explain what comics are apart of each continuity because ik when I was confused it was hard to follow which stories connected
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