Where to start simracing with a controller!

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@ke7vn 3 ай бұрын

Started racing on a psp in gran turismo, it was my first time gaming on kind of a controller but I was so in love and infatuated it inspired me to love cars, driving and racing in a whole!!

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Nice! The PSP was such a great handheld, I picked one up at launch when I was 14. Good times.

@bearsjunky23hof88 3 ай бұрын

My setup nowadays is pretty good but I started with a controller and believe it or not, Wreckfest. I think it's a very underrated racing game the physics are pretty good the racing is better than advertised. It's dirt to pavement transitions are better than a lot of sims. It's a lot of fun that teaches you the basics very well and you will become a Jedi master of collision avoidance😂 I still use the skills that I learned in wreckfest in the iRacing type Sims I play today.

@MatthewJohnCrittenden 3 ай бұрын

Wreckfest is great. I've played it on all platforms and bought it again and again just to support the Devs. The mobile release is very well optimised considering what is going on. Totally underrated.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Wreckfest is great fun, definitely!

@cptlatency428 3 ай бұрын

Another great video, I seriously hope this channel makes it big! As a controller player for me AC on Xbox is utterly unrivalled when it comes to controller feedback, the vibration makes it sooooo easy to threshold brake and to know exactly when your losing grip, the controller stick completely reflects the Ingame wheel and while that does mean you need to practice smoothness a lot, it also means the wheel is as accurate as possible, no smoothness bollocks that smudges the accuracy of your inputs as seen in a lot of rally games and pretty much every other racing game Unfortunately however Xbox has updated the controller making the analogue stick really quite bad. Instead of following you input it snaps with your input, so when it turn left instead of the analog input following my inputs, it snaps a couple degrees at a time, it has effectively made my driving style entirely obsolete

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Thanks, mate! Gotta love when big daddy Microsoft comes along to ruin everyone's fun...

@LowEndPCGamer100 Ай бұрын

any papyrus sim works great with controllers, just turn steering linearity down in control settings, and raise steering ratio in your car settings. devs knew a lot of people didnt have wheel and pedals back then, and its not too bad, this goes for all games in the series, grand prix legends is a great one, and its totally free, well, the entire series is but GPL stands out. emulating the gran turismo games works too, and forza project plus works fine through an emulator as well, tons of options.

@black_sn0w_ 3 ай бұрын

There's also the Advanced Gamepad Assist script for Assetto on PC which can be freely adjusted to smooth out steering and countersteering to any level you want, and it is absolute bliss, even on my old PS3 contoller.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

That's true! As good as AC is, I opted to recommend AMS2 since it's so much easier for a beginner to get up and running with. Much less tinkering and no mods required, and of course the ai racing is a weak spot for AC.

@black_sn0w_ 3 ай бұрын

@@DiariesOfABadDriver Yep, I got AMS in that humble bundle sale last year, very fun in the Copa Classics

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

@@black_sn0w_ same! That's gotta be one of the best value things I've ever bought

@_s_smokey 3 ай бұрын

I've recently started sim-racing back in late december of 2023, a few days before new years on my previous pc after getting a brand new controller, since then I feel like if you want to get as accurate as you can to a sim-wheel, is using a controller and configuring the dead zone settings and how steering feels. Coming from someone whose new to Assetto, with only 4 - 6 months of play time, I feel like controller is the best way to go if you're like me and don't have the money laying around for an entry level or higher level sim-racing wheel. If you want to stay within the 500 dollar range and have fun, go for the PS5 to get a chance to play Assetto or GT if you want realism. If you have a little bit more money, go for a pc and use controller. It can be just as engaging as when you're using a wheel.

@XCougar85X Ай бұрын

Nice video. Would also add that you can tinker a fair bit using Steam controller setup as well besides the ingame settings. I went from using a wheel for many years back to a controller and race ACC in that. Very doable and fun. You just reminded me toinstall Dirt Rally 2.0 again. Haven't played that in a long time . Would also give a shout out for Wreckfest, very accessible and really nice physics that definetely border more on the sim side. And if you crash it's not a problem.

@oskark312 Ай бұрын

started racing in TrackMania Nations Forever, now playing BeamNG

@Hoggy27 2 ай бұрын

Great video. Loved arcade racing games growing up, but got into GT7 last year and don’t think I could go back to the racers I used to play. Would love to get a wheel set up down the line, so your suggestions were super helpful. :)

@DiariesOfABadDriver 2 ай бұрын

@@Hoggy27 Thank you! A good wheel setup is really nice when you get there but there's no rush. Enjoy the journey!

@MatthewJohnCrittenden 3 ай бұрын

It's not really "Sim Racing" but my earliest driving gaming memory is 1988's Lombard RAC Rally on an Atari ST and have been hopping in and out of the hobby ever since. Good vid as ever, not sure Dirt Rally 2 will be beaten as a modern entry point for anyone interested in diving down the rabbit hole.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Ooh, nice! I've come across the game before in my KZbin travels and I think it looks like it was quite impressive for the time period, the cockpit view really helps to sell it.

@Armunn01 3 ай бұрын

Similar to my first sim racing experience. It was that and Indianapolis 500. Played both of those with a keyboard until I could get a joystick. Both were tough games at the time.

@MatthewJohnCrittenden 3 ай бұрын

@@DiariesOfABadDriver Yes, a drivable cockpit view was a revelation back then. Sunk many hours into it. My next step up in Rally games was Colin McRae on the PlayStation around 96 before I moved onto PC.

@MatthewJohnCrittenden 3 ай бұрын

@@Armunn01 Grand Prix Legends forced me to finally get a wheel / pedal setup after struggling with anything else. Love that game to this day.

@Armunn01 3 ай бұрын

@MatthewJohnCrittenden For me it was Indycar Racing by Papyrus. I bought a Logitech Formula Force

@nicks-sim-racing 3 ай бұрын

I started sim racing a few years ago with a Thrustmaster TMX pro paired with Assetto coarsa on an XBOX ONE. But then after a few years when I 100% knew I liked sim racing bought the Fanatec CSL 8nm and started to play more ACC for multi player and recently bought the XBOX SERIES X.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Nice, I'm using the same wheel on PC :)

@zucar1tas 3 ай бұрын

Played a lot of Project Cars 2 and the F1 games in old crappy PCs until I finally got a Series S, and now I'm really enjoying the new Forza Motorsport. Found a league in my country, and we race twice a week. It's been awesome, everyone is so helpful with the newer guys like me, until 3 months ago I used most assists and automatic gears and now I race without them, and I'm way faster. Tried ACC, but I don't like it on a controller like Forza, I want to buy a G920 for it as I love racing with the GT3s

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

That's great! I'm starting to get the itch to try a league, I think it might be more rewarding and fun that just racing randoms every time.

@pho5phoros 23 күн бұрын

You don't need all of that fancy gear to be fast. I have had a wheel setup back some years ago and I noticed something: when you don't have the space, or the right setup to have a wheel, just don't buy one, it will give you nightmares, you will drive worse and start hating racing. My desk is pretty thin, and I had a DFGT, which is definitely one of the weakest force feedback wheels out there (and my desk was bending), plus I had to spend 10 minutes for mounting everything and still being frustrated because the experience was not immersive, so I left SimRacing. About one year later, after having sold my old wheel, I decided to try again to race, but using an x360 pad to check out how the experience was and, surprisingly, I was having fun. You know what happens when the setup is right and you have fun? You go faster than with better gear, because you feel more comfortable with that. I'm still racing, still having fun, and actually more competitive than before (I've achieved quite some podiums and one win on LFM, and debuted in a simracing porsche cup). So why am I writing all of this? Basically, if you have good gear, but which makes you feel frustrated, you could be faster with worse gear that doesn't. And DISCLAIMER, if you're reading this comment, in this video, you probably don't have enough money or space to get a full SimRacing setup, so, if you do, don't be silly and respect other people's opinions and choices. Please, if you're passionate about motorsport and simracing, just buy a sim and race, learn how to stay on track, how the game makes you feel, no matter which gear you have, just have fun, race, and be respectful on track. Oh, and plus, if you want a truly immersive pad sim, just go with RFactor 2, it's so detailed, you can really feel everything even on the pad

@DiariesOfABadDriver 22 күн бұрын

@@pho5phoros I went through a very similar thing with the dfgt strapped to my desk, it just wasn't immersive and was a pain in the ass to setup so I went back to the controller. I have a direct drive setup with a handbrake and shifter on a wheel stand now which is WAY better and I'm quite happy with it, but I agree with you that in many ways a controller is preferable to a bad wheel setup. Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts!

@pho5phoros 22 күн бұрын

@@DiariesOfABadDriver Of course! But I'm not saying that the controller is always better, I said that this can work for people who don't have enough space or money for that setup, and having a crappy steering wheel, with the relative mounting time, can only become an excuse to quit

@littlejaguar183 3 ай бұрын

I started sim racing on the ps3 colin mcrea dirt. But I have always had why for racing in both sim and real life. I am also planning making a rally car from a 64.5 ford mustang

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

A Mustang rally car sounds awesome!

@potatoglizzy3212 3 ай бұрын

Love seeing some love thrown AMS2's way, such an underrated sim IMO and the devs continue to make it into one of the best pick up and play sims on the PC. Also thank you for not mentioning the latest Forza Motorsport in here, that thing is an abomination in comparison to some of its predecessors. As always, great video.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Agreed, it's a great Sim. I'm really looking forward to the 1.6 update, and it will be interesting to see if the LFM integration sees much traction, I'm definitely going to try it out. I have actually never played a mainline Forza game! I was interested in the new one but have avoided it due to its negative reception. I hope it gets patched into something good.

@BLINKBULLER 3 ай бұрын

i "simrace" on rFactor and GTR2, for me if you get your perfect configuration, it can still be a pretty fun experience, I used multiple F1 CTDP and FSOne mods, DTM, VLN 2005 and use the 25th anniversary patch on GTR2, I usually don't use force feedback because how much it uses the batteries on the Xbox controller, but it's a fun experience if you are on a kinda experienced, even if raceroom is limited to buy most categories, it can be fun on a controller too

@HriataKC 3 ай бұрын

If you're on the absolute low end side of things u should go for Automobilista 1. It has great controller support and the physics are second to none. Assetto Corsa may be also a great choice but it has alot of cpu issues especially when racing against AI, so u should need at least 4th gen dual core i3 or smt to run it properly or else the game will crash mid racing. So, yeah, definitely go for Automobilista 1

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

I've never tried the first one but I've heard good things about how it drives, good to hear the controller experience is good in that one as well.

@HriataKC 3 ай бұрын

@@DiariesOfABadDriver yeah it's underrated as heck. This is the only game imo which does not care much about graphics but provides pure racing. The only reason why it's not as popular as other titles is because of the Brazilian settings of the game, that goes from everything like the tracks and the cars. This is also a great game to begin your Sim racing journey

@mikusheep 3 ай бұрын

My favorite simcade title and racing game to play on pad PERIOD is Dirt3. Solid physics when you turn off the assists and working online servers despite being delisted from steam. Only thing is that you need to find a key reseller :/

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

I had a lot of fun with dirt 2 and 3 back in the early 2010s, very enjoyable arcade rally games.

@DanEdits24 3 ай бұрын

R:I:P 8:58 Nice video bro i'm thinking of buying the moza r5 or PXN v12 lite DD as my second wheel (i also started on a chinese wheel named doyo that my dad bought in his vacation)

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

@@DanEdits24 Thank you! I'm sure a direct drive will feel like a big upgrade. I got the CSL DD 8nm in November, and compared to the old Logitech dfgt I used to have, it was an enormous improvement.

@AlexandrePapao Ай бұрын

The answer is Raceroom: No nonsense. Open the game, pick your mode, car, track, and race. Graphics are good enough, runs smoothly on Steam Deck with low battery drain. Top-notch physics. Third-person camera is excellent. Controller support is phenomenal. Seriously, other sim developers should take notes. I own a wheel, but I prefer a controller. When someone says you must use a wheel for sims, I picture a socially challenged nerd. Good controller support is respect for the consumer. You only buy what you want to play, and there are sales. Sound design is outstanding. Tracks are well-made. Adaptive AI is VERY solid. In short, best sim out there. The only downside: you need to be online.

@DiariesOfABadDriver Ай бұрын

@@AlexandrePapao raceroom is well worth checking out for sure, and I'm quite looking forward to the big update that's on the way! When I tried it, I personally didn't have a great experience with the controller compared to the games I showed in the video, but it does feel very good on the wheel. I think the business model is, by far, the most off-putting part of raceroom and why it wouldn't be where I would tell people to start. Being able to simply buy a game and have it include a bunch of content out of the box is much simpler. For instance, a lot of people aren't going to get as far as figuring out that raceroom's steam prices are significantly more expensive and that you want to buy content directly off their website for the best value. No rain or night racing is also a bit underwhelming in this day and age, if you ask me.

@AlexandrePapao Ай бұрын

@@DiariesOfABadDriver Thanks for the video! I really enjoyed it. There’s not enough content out there about using controllers in sim racing, so it’s great to see someone covering it. I understand where you’re coming from. It took me a while to warm up to investing in RaceRoom too. I also enjoy the games you mentioned in the video-they all have their strengths. For me, the controller support in RaceRoom has been solid, and it’s one of the main reasons I stick with it, alongside the performance on the Steam Deck and overall gameplay. But I totally get that it might not be the same for everyone. The business model can be a bit off-putting at first, and the lack of rain or night racing is definitely noticeable. But once you get past that, there’s a lot to enjoy. Thanks again for the content, and looking forward to seeing more!

@DiariesOfABadDriver Ай бұрын

@@AlexandrePapao thanks heaps, it's appreciated :) and I think it's very cool that people are Sim racing on steam deck, I would love to pick up an OLED model at some point but they're STILL not officially launched here in Aus so they're over priced :(

@BWB_Cubing 3 ай бұрын

what about raceroom? ive been playing raceroom with a controller for a while, and actually just this week upgraded to a wheel, the day this video came out actually

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Raceroom is good! However, I've never really gotten much into it because of the business model, and I feel that it's a somewhat unnecessary barrier for beginners. When starting out I think it's better to be able to make one simple purchase that gives you a bunch of stuff you can try, rather than needing to navigate the store.

@BWB_Cubing 3 ай бұрын

@@DiariesOfABadDriver understandable

@genericexcuse4737 3 ай бұрын

I’ve been playing Assetto Corsa on Xbox with my elite 2 controller for a few years now, and have gotten kinda good at it. Here recently though, I have been looking at 2nd-hand mid-range thrustmaster wheels because my controller is vibrating itself in half. Both through the questionable build quality and amount of vibration used to provide proper feedback.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Ha, wow, that must be a lot of vibration! I think you'll really enjoy a wheel with Assetto Corsa, it's got some of the best force feedback imo.

@o.faruksavaf 3 ай бұрын

from AC open lobbies to Iracing ,my pace was slow compared to others but I knew how and where the chaos would occur so I went from dead last to 3rd (could have been P1 got punted)

@DiariesOfABadDriver 3 ай бұрын

Yep, racecraft is important. You can't hotlap your way to victory.

@solodrifter_0999 2 ай бұрын

Steering assist go brrrrrrr

@TeamSenke 2 ай бұрын

Ams2 is unplayable with controller for me, it recognizes my controller as a xbox controller even tho its a ps5 gamepad, when i loaded up the game the car would understeer and oversteer id spin like crazy, i wanted to play ams2 badly, i was determined to, i can play ams1 with controller but i constantly spin, i decided to get a used steering wheel near me, its cheap but decent, currently im struggling to get the right settings for ams2 and assetto, project cars 2 is a struggle, i do not have the space in the house for a simracing setup, so i have to play on the couch on the wheel it hurts my back, il try to find another method, im getting started with this hobby, il level my way up slowly.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 2 ай бұрын

Have you played around with the settings? I had to adjust a few minor things and then it felt pretty solid to me, though it might depend on what cars you're trying to drive.

@sandorfuleki5060 2 ай бұрын

I am a casual racer who has no patience to practice endless hours. Just wanna pick up my controller, play a bit of Forza/GT7/Grid Legends/Raceroom and have fun. I play games to have fun. If I want realism I borrow a Porsche for the weekend and go to my local racing track. I might in the future buy a Trakracer rig with a top end wheel setup but for now all I need is a controller.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 2 ай бұрын

@@sandorfuleki5060 I can't say I would ever describe my simracing experiences, with either a wheel or controller, as being 'endless practice'. The vast majority is race time and I simply learn and improve as I go. Borrowing a sports car for a track day I'm sure would be a ton of fun, but it's not racing. That's why this thing exists.