Where Will Future Infantry Fight Wars?

[@Taskandpurpose]

Check out Part I on the "History of Infantry Tactics & Weapons" kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIPNp3Wenq-qoJo !

[@MrPitbull117]

Task & Purpose great video, Sir! ‘Blown away with your knowledge and research!

[@greatness6146]

Do a video on the future of the army's armour division's suck as 19k or cav scouts please and thank you.

[@BdogFinal14]

So James Cameron basically hit the nail on the head, in his Aliens movie. The Infantry needs his Colonial Marines Smart Gun, M41A Pulse Rifle and handheld motion detectors.

[@dalewoods7308]

Before you had at least get a cat 3 bravo on the asvab now as long you have a high school diploma you can get in as a cat 4

[@arandomhecugrunt.4500]

Drones: I fear no man but that... Thing it scares me Emp: *Is shown on a picture* Drones: What do i feel like I'm deactivating Emp: *Happens*

[@DevTheBigManUno]

I can hit a target at any distance with an iron sight... Only change is the time it takes me to run up to it.

[@somenbwithabadhistoryteach5872]

That's kinda funny.

[@somenbwithabadhistoryteach5872]

I hate myself for laughing.

[@articwolf8377]

Hey its like Call of Duty and Halo, you just need some Mountain Dew and Doritos and then you can no scope anything, and then do a 360 no scope spin headshot from 500 meters. On your first try! I believe in you! Use the force!!!!! Feel that sugar rush through your veins and get that pancreas to work OT

[@iananderson1848]

That's funny. Well said.

[@kahorpamhoram8604]

😂😂😂😂👍

[@bananomet4052]

As long as you need to go clear house to house without civilian casualties, you still need inf.

[@Taskandpurpose]

agreed there will always be a need for infantry, it might look very different than it currently does though. we've had platoons for over 100 years, they might break into smaller units or be reorganized in the future.

[@TheCCBoi]

But what if that house is in space and filled with space zombie spiders, only robo-joes are going in there - I’m certainly not!!! Everyone knows joes hate spiders, that’s the only way you can beat U.S. infantry.

[@isaiahcampbell488]

@@Taskandpurpose If I recall ww1 Germany was the first country to use four man teams as a special but wide spread unit. Each of the four guys had a specialized role. It was often one covering with a carbine, a grenadier, a guy with a close range semi auto and a close quarters guy. They would recruit the single guys and those who were super aggressive and give them more time away from the fight until right before a major engagement. The teams would be sent to weak points at night to draw resources away from enemy strong points. Many historians mark those teams as the beginning of squad tactics. Crazy, to a certain degree it sounds like 100 years later we are making that same shift again.

[@DennisPing]

Dang this makes a lot of sense. It's an easy decision to send in your shiny new AI drones to fight a group of known enemies. But it's harder when the civilians look a lot like the enemies.

[@astillia6073]

Not a causality if the body evaporates 🙃

[@bradybeckman8273]

Transport a squad, take out a tank, and fly at the same time Ladies and gentlemen I introduce to you the clone wars era republic gunship

[@gogogomes7025]

Or a MI-24

[@montypython5521]

Pelican, then it can transport its own tank too

[@isaiahcampbell488]

It sounds like what the huey attempted to be.

[@corrat4866]

monty python TANK BEATS EVERYTHING!

[@ndp7054]

The stormtroopers are after Leia! Quick take cover behind the bulkheads and shoot around the corner using your gun sight's link to your helmet! Oh no here comes Vader, grenades and continue firing the bullets his saber can't keep up with! We killed Vader! Let's go take over their Star Destroyer!

[@lordgollum3700]

Lol Operation metro

[@Taskandpurpose]

exactly what I was thinking when I was reading the report detailing the about subterranean warfare strategy! Obviously we just need to spam grenades and rush straight to objective Charlie hahah

[@mac9743]

Sh*t... get ready for them hard flanks boys!

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

Lord Gollum *GRENADE SPAM AND BASERAPE INTENSIFIES*

[@ls200076]

I got some ammo

[@domg6041]

@@Taskandpurposeplease, you run as engineer and fry everyone with your EOD Wall-E.

[@shayminthedoctor9663]

"It's hard to hit anything past 300 meters without a scope... with the exception of everyone in the comment section right now. They're all experts." Aw thanks man :D

[@whatsinaname6745]

Before the advent of ACOGs we Marines trained to hit man sized targets out to 500 yards with iron sights! I know the distance still remains, just have never used an ACOG.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

you only see the enemy for fractions of a second, everybody making themselves visible for longer than that is machine-gun fodder. You spend a lot of time shooting their general direction. Also you will be tired, filthy, thirsty, hungry, your hands shaking because you are scared shitless, artillery or mortars might be firing at you too, maybe even nerve gas (fighting with a gas mask - who can aim a rifle?) or some other new technology of death like lasers or sound weapons. Infantryman's job is harder than ever before and a lot more lethal.

[@shayminthedoctor9663]

@@robertmaybeth3434 You do make a good point actually. You can be the best marksman around and you still won't be able to hit jack shit at 300 meters because of all the shit happening around you. As for the danger of being an infantryman, I think technology has offset the danger somewhat. I won't claim to be an expert though, not even close.

[@democrack113]

Say that to Simo Häyhä.

[@antoinelachapelle3405]

@@whatsinaname6745 trained to fire at 500m is very différent from actually doing it with incoming fire, possibly explosions, ennemies actively moving and hiding unlike a target at the range and maybe even your buddy bleeding out next to you

[@infini.tesimo]

I can confirm that the morale affect of being closed off indoors at a missile site will 100% affect your mental and emotional well being.

[@redstonemaddness]

From cod4?

[@Cgrazi]

@@redstonemaddness no. I’ve been in one to. There’s a bunch of old 1960s era missile silos abandoned across the United States. I’ve been in a few of them and it does change your mental process a bit. It’s disorienting if you’ve never been in one.

[@Mark-ud5og]

I guess we won’t need snipers. But what I would suggest if your enemy is in a tunnel, is to release a bunch of spiders underground. I am terrified by spiders

[@Tis_I_SirJames]

Yeah, like black widows or brown recluse, so they die a really slow death.

[@orlock20]

A ghetto blaster with spooky noises could probably fill several square feet of tunnels with terror.

[@lastword8783]

Make drones the size of your hand that can crawl and burrow into flesh and explode. Enjoy the PTSD.

[@nbr1rckr]

@@orlock20 y'know... People often look over the psychological stop. I'm getting spooked just thinking about it.

[@hoilst]

And this is when Australia became a superpower.

[@thefrogstronaut]

When I was 5 years old I went on a class field trip to the airport, and our airport had a small air force base. The only thing I remember about the whole field trip was a sergeant telling us that UCP sucked and it doesn’t work.

[@MrDiamondism]

Can I just quickly say how damn impressed I am by this channel? Properly researched, well written, meaningful sources, reliable inside perspective, important topics... You guys certainly set the bar pretty high. Greetings from Germany

[@KeyboardWarrior101st]

Man I wish I wasn't missing out on that kind of training.

[@abntemplar82]

amen and airborne on that one.

[@daddydoc1115]

Shipping to basic January 4th, I wonder if they'll keep doing it

[@cwoo13]

@@daddydoc1115 how was it brother

[@BourneCreations]

I was a Infantryman back in the dark ages (1988-1992) and it is amazing how the equipment and technology has changed. The gear I had was pretty much the same as the troops had in Vietnam, my Plt only had three sets of PVS5's to go around. Times change, but the core job of the infantry is the same. But now they are being asked and tasked to do more. More gear may not be the answer to every conflict or mission. Hang tough my grunts, you got this.

[@boot_boy_6945]

I think that for “drone swarms” the military would go back to the roots of AA. A fast firing mounted weapon system that would probably have multiple guns that fired low caliber rounds like the 5.56 along side a tracking system.

[@reneaguilar7029]

Directed Energy weapons could also do that once they figure it out more

[@jacksonmercer260]

Like CWIS

[@neitherman9997]

@Jeff Rogers Drone swarm very often mean small drones, those can easily be taken out by 5.56 ammunition (trying to fly anything armored enough to survive being hit by 5.56 would require it to be quite big.)

[@ayoutubecommenter1827]

CWIS/C-RAM Systems

[@morganboucher6191]

5G

[@randelldarky3920]

Drone wars. Mystery Science Theater, good series. I am happy to see optics on infantry rifles. Iron sights are ok at the range, when no one is shooting at you

[@Taskandpurpose]

MST3K is where its at, they've got new episodes on netflix now

[@murkrow1360]

Of our military doesn’t look like Ghost Recon: Future Soldier, within the next 30 years I’ll be very disappointed

[@G59forlife.]

That game is the best

[@ethanverdersa2520]

It'll probably look more like Breakpoint tbh

[@caiorodriguesmonteiro4768]

@@ethanverdersa2520 they will glitch cars trough the floor and abuse ragdoll mechanics to win

[@ethanverdersa2520]

@@caiorodriguesmonteiro4768 EXACTLY! War would be so much more interesting

[@Justanotherlemon]

You guys are around wildlands looking soildiers, the irish army still looks like 007 goldeneye soildiers but more green.

[@Ompasikom]

The "Terminator" movie franchise is getting to be more and more like future history.

[@HUKIT.]

It’s been proven for thousands of years that if you throw human death and suffering at a task the impossible can be possible.

[@ryankuniyoshi96825]

We need beam rifles and plasma shields next.

[@zackscott903]

Halo

[@aragos32727]

We need gul darn Gundams

[@ashash4tube]

😇

[@orlock20]

Yeah and a hundred slaves to carry the batteries.

[@noelsoong777]

Train Jackles to shoot rifles.

[@zexsisfaux6228]

"Except everyone in the comments" 😂🤣🤣 💪🇺🇸

[@lonkidonki2684]

escape from tarkov labs in a nutshell

[@PanicWithoutDisco]

Factory tunnels

[@AlbertWillHelmWestings2618]

yeah factory tunnels

[@cryptosporidium1375]

Dont take this seriously ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) STALKER is a more accurate.

[@AlbertWillHelmWestings2618]

@@cryptosporidium1375 yea nah imma agree

[@noodles5438]

Been waiting for this video. When the notification happened ‘I Ran’ to click it.

[@Apophis392]

It’s possible that when both sides have electromagnetic pulse weapons on the battlefield, and a lot of our electronic machines are disabled, war will once again be largely fought by savage men with rifles, grenades, and machine guns. As technology progresses we become less or more prepared for good old EMPing?

[@nbr1rckr]

I, too, played Modern Warfare 2's campaign.

[@Apophis392]

nbr1rckr my comments was also kinda inspired by the show “Future Weapons” on discovery channel back in the day

[@thelouster5815]

Apophis392 It won’t happen because most if not all military equipment is immune to EMPs these days.

[@emperorfaiz]

Pretty sure the army already aware of the EMP situation. I've seen several military machines installed with EMP-proof shielding of some sort.

[@papermind4010]

EmperorFaiz doesn’t really matter how EMP proof the military is if the rest of the country is completely blacked out

[@zvir7493]

Imagine: Your chilling in your underground bunker. Then you hear the whine of several night visions goggles turning on and hundreds of green eyes appear around you. Yes I know night vision goggles don’t make the noise

[@foxtrot4352]

Top 10 OH SHIT moments.

[@randomuser5443]

“Fuck”

[@pteppig]

Or make some noise before that, with Thermo baric grenades. Then they won't hear or breathe anything

[@johnsalt1157]

I'm old enough to remember first generation image intensifiers (forget that nonsense about night vision being exotic as recently as ten years ago -- it was standard issue in the 1970s, and IR goggles have been around since 1945) and they made a very definite high-pitched whine. Because the thing still gave a useful image for a minute or so after it was powered down, we used to switch them on and lie on top of them to muffle the noise, then switch them off and take a quick look at the thing we wanted to take a look at. There aren't any dogs on the bit of Salisbury Plain we were training on (apart from the odd officer's spaniel following its owner around), but I worried that the noise that thing made would drive every dog within two or three klicks into a barking frenzy.

[@lk6912]

If I saw the splinter cell 3 lens nv I'd dedicate myself!

[@matthewwhite8484]

10:12 I was wearing headphones and that scared the shit out of me

[@rohanrawat9248]

I was in bed at night, almost had myself a heart attack.

[@Bundy714]

The "Pontiac Aztec of war", good analogy. And the first thing I thought of was the F35. A platform that tries to do everything, like a Swiss army knife or multi-tool. I've never been in the military, but I've worked a lot with tools, and whenever you have a tool designed to do multiple things, it's always a cost cutting/space saving, compromise, that will NEVER perform as well as a tool designed to do one thing.

[@theimmortal4718]

With planes, it's different. Many of the US like F15 Eagle are pretty good at everything, and it's been successful for 50 years. The F35 might be pretty good at most missions, but it's greatest strengths are in SEAD and high value targets on the ground or enemy air fuelers and AWACS. The F22 beats her in air to air combat.

[@mrm8818]

0:54 Shooting in a tunnel like that without any ear protection, wouldn't that damage your hearing? i know that might not sound important in ww3 but i just wondered

[@isaiahcampbell488]

*tenitus* ignoring you unintentionally. But in all seriousness yeah it would be pretty bad. I knew a guy who was hunting keyotees and chased one into a ten foot culver (a long section of concrete pipe) and he fired one bullet and was def for about half a day.

[@craigcrissman4651]

Probably one of the reasons the Army and Marines are buying a shit load of suppressors to try and push those down to the squad level

[@RhodokTribesman]

I'm pretty sure they would start using active hearing protection more; that shit is great. You hear better when there is nothing going on and the moment a rifle or anything fires, you go deaf for a second

[@TheRedneckGamer1979]

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~ Albert Einstein 1949

[@pckkaboo6800]

Suicide Drone intensifies...Packed with Remote charges & ballbearings..

[@rupang886]

...so in the near future, all the military will just be a titanfall PVP match between a few pilots with trained local grunts serving as meat-shields.

[@Justanotherlemon]

Maybe a prototype legion whos pilot is drunk and a angery hungry crazy monarch.

[@adamdesouza6153]

7:40 actually the Red army was outnumbered and had less food reserves than the Wehrmacht and Axis when they took Ukraine, Red army doctrine was about concentrating forces to give the illusion that they had way more troops than they actually had We get the popular belief of endless amounts of soviet troops from German generals, (because, cold war, the USSR wasnt so giving of information so German generals were used instead), who either were fighting nothing then retreating, or fighting everything at once and suffering huge casualties, and its worth noting German intel in WW2 was very bad and any strategic breakthrough relied on luck and force, such as France and Barbarossa, which also explains Kursk and the battle of the bulge

[@Taskandpurpose]

great information, thanks for the feedback!

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

So napoleonic doctrine thats actually really interesting fits how ussr used their commandos aswell

[@elisigmon5505]

This aiming with nods is weird as hell

[@Taskandpurpose]

the new nods are supposed to make that a thing of the past. hope I can try that out

[@JN1-506]

Just use your peq15

[@s.k.vigneshkarthikeyan2887]

MOST UNDERRATED MILITARY CHANNEL.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

When the enemy is allready underground, you just plug the holes and add a gravestone i reckon..

[@intricatelast-name5291]

What about when they have a-a Nuke huh?

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

@@intricatelast-name5291 : i'd be gone, and they'd live like moles underground.

[@cedriceric9730]

Tunnels are built for such a scenario, they will just pop up behind you via some unknown exit, you have to chase them map them all out

[@shorewall]

@@cedriceric9730 Use heavier than air gas and drones with flamethrowers. Forget playing wack a mole. :D

[@seekndestroy8970]

@@shorewall That’d be interesting lol

[@mikemurphy5898]

What the hell was that at 10:13? Watching alone in the dark and that just scared the absolute shit out of me

[@nippon2003]

I think infantry will be more like military personel who work as technicians to operate and maintain systems behind battlefield. They will still get training for fight but direct infantry combat will be performed mostly by specialized units with highly effective advanced equipment in small numbers. But the battlefield is going to be dominated by autonomous systems.

[@maxdoom3521]

After ww1 and the advent of tanks, some thought the battlefield would be dominated by tanks acting as land ships and infantry in a similar role to what you just stated. Wars are fought with people, and infantry is that in its purest form. Infantry is ultimately the deciding factor.

[@manuj2868]

The beginning of WW1 sparked the idea that war would now be mechanised and over before Christmas. This was not the case. I think highly-specialised and concentrated engineering units and electronic-based equipment only remain untouched in asymmetric warfare. If multiple fully industrialised nations fought together, a lot of these might quickly be dismantled by EMP’ rifles, or cyber attacks, and it all turns into the familiar hellholes of previous world wars, man on man with raw mechanical rifles with few electronic luxuries. Wide-scale employment of high-tech just seems economically unlikely, if millions and millions of men have to be supplied. Unless high-tech gets significantly cheaper, stronger and more immune to anti electronic devices, I remain sceptical.

[@bonobostv1250]

I've been wondering about this for a while now. And am grateful that you took the time to talk about it. Here's a like. 👍

[@jimkoney4200]

If you want to train use the North Vietnamese tunnels

[@john.rc.3274]

Another brilliant video. Excellent. Well done!

[@PrinceRobin1su2]

Can you do a video on Medics and future MEDEVAC plans

[@learnmore8771]

I NEED a MEDIC BAG!

[@figo3554]

EXCUSE ME! I AM IM NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!

[@seekndestroy8970]

Just throw the bag/box on the ground and it heals you, duh! Lol BF4 IRL

[@GumaMartin]

About the last thing you were talking about, the shaping of perception. My grandma was 10 when the Germans invaded my country in WW2. She tells me stories about how the German soldiers were really nice to the common people, giving food and clothing, playing football with the children and sometimes helping the elderly with labor work. When the war was ending and they were retreating, they were telling the people to take the leftover food and medicine from the barracks. One soldier saw that my grandma's younger sister was struggling, took her bags and carried them to the house for her. Unlike the Italians and the Bulgarians who were straight up bullies beating people up for no reason.

[@thelouster5815]

Cam Vincius Sounds like your grandma was extremely, EXTREMELY fortunate compared to the countless stories of german soldiers terrorizing the local populations they occupied. That or you’re just straight up lying.

[@GumaMartin]

@@thelouster5815 The stories are most definitely true and I have no reason to lie. My grandma still remembers what happened very well. Here is another story. One of the higher ranked soldiers or officers that was placed in her village was found hanging from a tree. The Germans were furious and gathered the whole village into the local church to be killed by a firing squad. While they were waiting for their death, terrified, some of the doctors inspecting the body found a letter in the pocket coming from Germany that was directed towards the officer. It was said that he was in fact ordered to kill himself because he lost a battle or something or did something shameful. The soldiers then released the village and on their way of the the church, everyone received a boot up their ass. The next day, a small pig was delivered to each house as an apology.

[@HillnStuff]

I plan on joining the Marine Corps as a combat engineer but I am really dumb so I'm planning to go to the Infantry I'm a junior in high school and after my senior year I'm off and I'm just nervous about what happen if a future conflict broke out and what what happened to me in that circumstance this really open my mind about what I might get myself into may God be out there and may he be with me

[@rileyen4608]

I have some insider info from some friends who work in certain places one may rhyme with punk quarks... we have more then you can imagine, the reason we have so many things listed as confidential or classified is because it would radically change the world, similar to what nuclear weapons did. Look up the SR-91 Aurora which replaced the SR-71 mind you the SR91 is still highly confidential... then imagine the SR-91 turned drone which can fly at mack5 with munitions... and watch a lecture from 2013 called Meta-materials and the science of invisibility.

[@therac197]

The SR91 is a conspiracy theory, Not saying there isn´t any truth in it. But its an amagalm of a bunch of different things in my oppionion. Like the SR-72 (which is pretty close to what you are talking about), the X47, the B2 (funding side) and Stealth plasma which may be used experimantaly by the russians on the 3M22 Zircon missle

[@BryantMoore87]

"it's hard to hit anything past 300 meters, unless you have a scope" This might be the most Army thing i've heard you say. 😂🤣😢

[@rautanen81]

Your videos are getting better and more intresting. Thanks.

[@Taskandpurpose]

thanks for the feedback glad you enjoyed it!

[@derptank3308]

4:36 Eyyyyyyyy I remember that movie

[@tb8517]

You guys rock. Funny stuff as always. Also requesting a video on ration history. Everyone loves food.

[@Taskandpurpose]

thats a great idea! I'd want to get some really old rations in here and try them out

[@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264]

But I dont care how much money and tech they through out nothing will ever replace the common ground pounder. We might be more specialized, better equipped and trained but nothing will replace us.

[@doge8726]

You're wrong. Eventually drones, AI, and robots will replace the average human soldier

[@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264]

@@doge8726 Cant be done. I dont care how "smart" tech gets nothing can replace boots on the ground. Yes the Infantryman will be more highly trained and specialized no argument from me whatsoever there. But you will always need a form of the Infantryman. And the Seals, Green Beret etc. Are forms of the Infantryman albeit a lot more highly trained,skilled and specialized and definitely a cut above your average Grunt but nevertheless a form of the Infantryman.

[@doge8726]

@@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264 You didn't understand what I said. Eventually, human soldiers will for sure get replaced with humanoid robots. This might not happen in this century perhaps, but it will happen. The average soldier will get replaced by machines

[@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264]

@@doge8726 Will machines replace some soldiers yes I'll grant you that. They already are and to great success. But they can never ever replace all of them.

[@eitkoml]

@@doge8726 I disagree but it would be so cool to have soldiers commanding a bunch of robots instead of shooting rifles.

[@Brandon210-q4n]

People often talk about the death of infantry as a combat force. Reality is, infantry will always, always be needed. They're capable of fighting in any terrain in any weather. And that's just for starters.

[@AB-vd7ux]

Hey Bob, can you hear me? Bob: No

[@WynnofThule]

4:19 You must keep in mind, the Aztek was absolutely a mechanically sound and competitive vehicle. It was a good car. It just looked so god-awful nobody thought it was good.

[@eliwatson7936]

Until there’s something else that can kick down doors and clear rooms, infantry won’t be obsolete

[@ThomasDavenport1]

Your best video yet! (that I’ve seen) Subscribed.

[@_Morph1ne_]

Bro I don’t know about you but “thunder gods” is a pretty rad name

[@Taskandpurpose]

way better than my call sign which was "spare parts"

[@johnrussell1881]

I am a retired 11B Command Sargeant Major. When you get through screwing around, and it's time to take somebody's country from them, you send in some tanks, artillery, close air support, and a couple hundred thousand 11B's and we will take anybody's country from them and there is nothing they can do about it.

[@Luwab]

The year is 2030. I am a Soldier during World War 2.5. Asleep in the Barracks. I forgot to turn off my Mindlink to my AR-69. Have a wet dream and just as I blow my load my rifle goes off irl. MFW when I killed my battlebuddy dreaming about double D's 乁( ⁰͡ Ĺ̯ ⁰͡ ) ㄏ

[@Taskandpurpose]

this belongs on 4chan hahah

[@eastoftheweast5584]

that first part givin me real metro 2033 vibes

[@hankadelicflash]

Props on the MST shirt!!

[@hankadelicflash]

I've loved the show since my early 20's. I'm 45 now. You look pretty young, you get all the references? Lol. 😄

[@toddbowles8201]

As a old intel vet, this is scary

[@zethicalyt2406]

“Thunder gods” as aircraft, Let me guess, “Icarus” is what AA guns are called

[@kraken-sx2ys]

Thanks for the video!! :)

[@xirensixseo]

with the rise of small unmanned vehicles, im starting to consider designing a mass production 20mm AT rifle to defeat armored tracked drones

[@Dunbar0740]

There was plenty of underground fighting in WW1. Both sides attempted to tunnel under enemy positions in order to blow holes in the line. Both sides sunk counter tunnels to intercept enemy tunnelers - sometime to plant explosives in front of the enemy advance, other times to break into the enemy tunnel to fight hand to hand with shovels, picks and trench knives.

[@JohnLee-kl4tc]

I was playing tarkov while listening to this at 3am and that fucking evil laugh at 10:13 scared the ever living shit out of me. I through my headphones

[@ZodZulu]

Scary stuff. Thanks

[@Taskandpurpose]

you are very welcome. we love to spook

[@DidWeMakeIt]

Warriors from the past will always fight on the battlefields of the future... the only thing that separates us now is technology.

[@sentinel7991]

Well done

[@simonshaffer]

Great channel, surprised it’s not got more subscribers.

[@roguedrones]

Infantry are like water, they'll change shape to fit the war. A tank can't.

[@richardlooch2109]

infantry is like the mortar holding together all the bricks.

[@AgiDaKinG]

This is why I'm trying to join the Army as 11X at age 29 before it's too late and the robots take over

[@cyrneco]

Hi. Congrats on your content, I think is very well thought out. I wonder what you think about the asymmetric nature of the economic side of combat doctrine. I try to explain. A us soldier, and to a certain extent every nato soldier, costs an enormous amount of money (resources). A Russian or Chinese or "third world" not to mention resistance or rebels cost infinitely less per head. Casualties, both in the moral and the economic costs, are enormously more expensive for the type of doctrine adopted by the USA and its allies/satellites (I was a soldier in one of these last). First of all do you think this assessment of mine is correct? And if it is do you think it wouldn't be better for the West to adopt a more low technology approach because of that? I do realize that the military industrial complex requires a high technology high expense approach to justify itself, but my questions are more in theoretical side and that is "if our societies/economic systems allowed it wouldn't it be more efficient a low(er) technology approach?" Thanks

[@someonespotatohmm9513]

With the increases in technology making infantry combat less and less relevant it seems to me that focusing on increasing the effectiveness of everything you have is the best approach. Because what is the point of something that takes up a big supply line if the supply line will never lasts, as it wouldn't even with current technology. And ppl take up a lot of supplies.

[@cyrneco]

@@someonespotatohmm9513 I see your point though I can't say I agree with the premise. Infantry combat is less important than it use to be but it's still central. I don't mean necessarily that the numbers on the field should be much bigger btw. Most of the jobs and duties that are carried today by highly trained and supremely equipped fusiliers could be carried equally well by a much lower tech one. The amount of supplies in volume wouldn't change or even be smaller, and furthermore a lower tech soldier is less dependent on supplies and support, not to mention also less likely to have equipment malfunctions that need a support to fix. The example of the AKs vs the m16 platforms is very telling in that respect.

[@isaiahcampbell488]

If you lose large amounts of equipment and highly trained personnel you can always downgrade and replace them with less techy less trained units. Upgrading from low tech to high tech is a lot harder. Every nation tries but struggles with it. But Brittian during ww2 did what you were talking about with submachine guns. They went from spending a crazy amount of money on U.S. made Thompsons and downgraded to the Sten. Those things were one of the fastest weapons to produce, made from stamped metal and bed springs (not a joke) and built in subway tunnels. A LOT of those guns were junk but there were enough that worked that got the job done in Europe and Africa while some cost literally 1/10 the price of a Thompson. Edit: so to sum it up: it is very possible to shift from expensive to cheap units and equipment. Look up Volks weapons in WW2 the Germans went from making the fanciest equipment to literally the cheapest when their infrastructure was near collapse and their weapons reflected it. Many late war German guns were disposable.

[@cyrneco]

@@isaiahcampbell488 you're absolutely right and correct. Still that doesn't seem to me like a ironclad argument for an uber technological approach. How much it costs the USA and western allies to kill an enemy or to lose a soldier compared to, say, a taliban or Chinese faction? It's not like I'm trying to argue that we should go back to bolt action of course, that's absurdity, but there are levels. Think of the expenses in hi tech ordnance both for the actual use and the training, not to mention the extremely high level of comfort goods a western soldier, and especially USA from what I saw while working alongside them. Now this list might be simple jealousy too :-) but it's undeniable that we (Italian mountain troops) made do and did the same job with much much less. There is level I think were the uber technological and material superiority style doctrine gets hit badly by the law of diminishing returns. Just to be clear as a fusilier I would without question prefer to be a GI rather than a chinese or taliban, but my personal interest as an individual is not necessarily what's best for the whole. I did my job well enough with a FAL, and while proficient I'm never was a marksman and a better gun would have been wasted on me as it would have been individual nightvision devices etc etc. I hope I'm explaining myself: I'm absolutely not a luddite...

[@johnlansing2902]

Just a thought. In a tunnel fight the grenade will no longer be the best option for clearing a area unlike most structures above ground the pressure wave will be contained and channeled. Etc etc etc

[@friendlyinsurgentpassinthr3199]

I hope we get the old toys the US once had, I hope!

[@Dmv216661]

Imagine being pinned down, with no ammo left, calling that robot dog thing to come over while it just prances around no man's land like at 9:47 😂😂

[@davidstewart5811]

I think you have presented an outstanding compilation of the various factors involved that face our military today and the immediate future. I have long been concerned about the transition to a cyber-based C and C orientation due to the vulnerability of such systems to hacking. I read a book something like 20 years ago that dealt with this very concept. We were in the middle east, surprise surprise, and as we were getting all set up to go kick some local ass, suddenly none of our equipment worked because the bad guys lit up an energy weapon that acted as a nuclear electronic pulse, in other words, an electromagnetic pulse weapon, Since trying to carry around a Faraday cage on the battlefield tends to be impossible, it seems to me that has a very serious risk to our troops and equipment.

[@neroclaudius7284]

Appreciate you getting my antique facts right this time

[@PhantomQuestGaming]

Lol this crazy because I leave tomorrow for the infantry 💯

[@Taskandpurpose]

best of luck future infantry haha say hi to fort benning for me (assuming you're american)

[@PhantomQuestGaming]

Task & Purpose thanks man and yeah I’m American lol

[@doge8726]

@@PhantomQuestGaming Have fun fighting and dying for an oil company

[@onedereronederer]

Stay away fro the drag-queens, and the dress wearers!

[@ArrKayCee]

Nice screenshot from Future Soldier, great game :)

[@trollmcclure1884]

I played DOOM 3 +ROE a lot. I'm more than ready :)

[@FigureOnAStick]

Speaking as a civilian who sincerely hopes to stay that way, I can't help but wonder what civilian impact on battlefields may be like. The military historian John Keegan noted that one of the significant ways battle evolved overtime was the increasing area of active warzones, and the increasing difficulty of effectively escaping them, both for soldier and for civilian bystanders. I have to admit, the idea that soilders may have to operate entirely underground leaves me of two minds about that development. On the one hand, the proliferation of autonomous systems capable of wiping the floor with human operators does not bode well for civilians who don't have access to military tunnels. On the other hand, perhaps if all the valuable targets aren't accessible from the surface, the mere threat of autonomous weapons may mean their primary strategic role is to close off the surface as a battlespace altogether, which honestly would suit me just fine. On the other hand, if an army considers civilians acceptable targets or collateral, that would bode very badly indeed...

[@primuscalgar7927]

That’s what I thought I’m an expert

[@bhartiya809]

Holding a piece of own land or capturing enemies land and then holding it, is one thing that no other arm or weapons can do 🙂🙂

[@thekaxmax]

"hearts and minds" was tried in Vietnam, after the US commanders saw how the locals reacted to Australian troops.

[@billb1725]

This was a particularly interesting topic that you handled very well. Thanks for the effort and detail to make this thoughtful and frightening.

[@WeboKonAroz]

I mean who wouldn't want to ride in a armored helicopter car?

[@orlock20]

The Apache is a reverse image of that car. Yes, you can drive an Apache down the highway after removing the blades.

[@syberphish]

I've used mesh radio systems underground, they work pretty well.

[@christianbell9765]

Oh please. I shot a penny in half from 1231 meters on my first shot with no scope. I'm surprised you passed your rifle qual.

[@johnsalt1157]

Ah, the old 50x50m target covered in pennies trick.

[@lanier2k5]

Great presentation

[@gutza1782]

Get the grindlifts, Marcus, we're gonna kill some grubs.

[@VeteranR]

Eyyy Gears of War.

[@lk6912]

Would not even surprise me if it goes this way!

[@seekndestroy8970]

We ought to create our own locust army and just send them in. That’ll teach them to hide underground lol

[@richardsawyer5428]

Underground warfare from World War 1 sounded terrifying. The Tunnelling Companies of the Commonwealth Armies and their work under Vimy Ridge, etc are worth getting clued up on.

[@breezyxkillerx]

"Underground war training" *Confused Air Force sounds*

[@msumungo]

A really valid point. Also applies to fighting in a city infrastructure built inside concrete. Of course, the centers of real politics and economy are not in some countryside villages but in genuine people hot hubs, i.e. cities. That's why you will attack cities. However, my concern here is that tunnel carving is indeed a way more vexing task compared to complex superstructures built on the ground. Carving a one hundred story building underground takes at least five times more time and funds than building a hundred story building above with a rebar reinforced concrete. That's why we have cities above and not below. Also, if you dig deep enough it kinda gets hot and not breezy at all. True story.

[@lulolee5325]

To those who question quality vs quantity, WWII between Germany and USSR is a good example of outcome. Also conflicts like ambush in Nigeria when four American green berets were killed when a mobile group of trained country men on motorbikes armed with AKM rifles completely destroyed "anti terrorist" forces which had all the modern technology, intelligence and even air support!... and there are many many more examples... In order to benefit from optical sights on infantry assault rifle, first of all you have to see and even know where exactly is your target, and from that distance you will barely see and even know because they will hide everywhere it's possible to hide, and when you inevitably come in closer contact your optical sights will be the reason you will be shot faster than you should have been otherwise... The delusion some experts get, because during modern missions for the most part NATO troop infantries are being used just to shoot a little bit from long distances so less risk is involved, there isn't goal to take over that place at all, and air strikes with rockets do all the job. While in a real war scenario you would have to bring your infantry deeper into territory, and then your problems and different war begins... That's why armies can't conquer Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, North Korea... yes you can destroy all infrastructure with rockets, but then you are just criminal evil and not powerful conqueror as most big empires would like to be... and without infrastructure guerrilla fighters gain even more advantage over regular army of invaders...

[@doejohnathon3487]

Hell I just got my first AR and I've been having a hell of a time with that large front post site should have never showed my fal back in the day

[@zman5387]

Personally I like the Russian and Chinese doctrine of brute force. I think we put way to much emphasis on technology. Also, like was said in the video, trying to be all things all the time means your a jack of all trades, but master of none. KISS - Keep it simple stupid. That stupid universal camouflage that the army had was the perfect example.

[@shorewall]

You like human wave tactics? Less value on your men's lives? I do think we need analog redundancies, but throwing men at the problem is not a valuable solution. It is for when you don't have the brains or economy to do more.

[@arighteousname5882]

Really? You like the archaic doctrine of sending waves of men running to battlefield getting mowed down buy machine guns. Gotcha 👌

[@roytelling6540]

the biggest problem with automated systems is electromagnetic pulse, so you can't rely on them if you want to win. They are only there to help... I am new to you channel and a new subscriber. I think war is the worst of mankind BUT there are many people in power around the world that think the power to kill is the best power you can have and living in peace shows weakness

[@eliwatson7936]

“Major cities, like Iran or North Korea”

[@chiefbrody2173]

That Mystery Science Theater 3000 shirt was a nice touch lol. Id stay up late and watch it in the 90s. Mountain Dew and ADHD. Good times.

[@pebs1070]

Yea I'm getting out of the army after watching this 🤣

[@whattheshit4936]

You seen anything like this yet? MEPS in a week for me than Benning in a couple weeks I can't wait

[@pebs1070]

@@whattheshit4936 nah man, but smart move. Doing at least 3 years in the army really sets you up for life

[@whattheshit4936]

@@pebs1070 at 25 years old with nothing to show for myself but a long list of interstate addresses, I hope so xD stable income and a job I wouldn't find anywhere else would be a welcome change

[@gpl992]

@@whattheshit4936 Same age and same Basic I went to,Benning at 25 in 2017 for me.Good luck!

[@Ron_Zone]

Buddy. Clearing an underground facility would be so much fun. Short range walkie talkies should still function for inter-unit communication, right?

[@Ron_Zone]

Might as well kill the lights and go dark.

[@georgeryan8267]

It's going to be ww1 tunneling battle with full auto and more flamethrowers Its going to be horrible

[@Ron_Zone]

@@georgeryan8267 i was imagining some kind of modern manufacturing facility that is just very underground. I thought it would be exciting.

[@Nostrajohnus]

Enemy wheelson in the AO