Where Would DUDLEY Be Sorted!? | Harry Potter Film Theory

[@cecagna]

The Houses' reactions to a Dudley placement: Hufflepuff: We'll take him! Ravenclaw: First of all, how dare you... Gryffindor: Eh, seems more like a Slytherin to me Slytherin: Eh, seems more like a Gryffindor to me

[@Charok1]

Exactly, how dare you. haha

[@childfreepoet]

This tracks. I almost said that Ravenclaw reaction verbatim.

[@lahlybird895]

I'm a ravenclaw, and I approve this message.

[@j.a.shawkins7640]

As a Hufflepuff, I am laughing hysterically. XD

[@Miss_Myth]

😂😂😂 Oh gosh, I knew this was gonna be good but... 🤣🤣🤣 Just. Dying. (And to echo my fellow Ravenclaw... yeah, pretty much 🤣)

[@hufflepom]

Pre-video thoughts: I am thinking he would be a fellow Hufflepuff. He is loyal in a weird way. He is loyal to those he feels a connection to (his parents, friends/gang, and eventually Harry). His loyalty and trust of Harry (and thus his willingness to go with two strangers from The Order) shows that although he cannot give them the ole one two, he is doing what he can to help Harry. Also we are next to the kitchens! lol

[@Kostyurik]

> Also we are next to the kitchens! The most important argument :-)

[@Friggazee]

Definitely this. I feel he's like Neville. The house doesn't seem right at first, until a period of growth and a chance to prove himself.

[@sincereaec]

i have a feeling he wouldve died in the battle of hogwarts

[@katholmes7112]

@Sincere he wouldn't have participated in the battle. Zacharias Smith is a direct descendant of Helga Hufflepuff and he mowed down first years to get out of the school to safety. Dudley would have done the same.

[@Mew_Stor]

He became only loyal after the Dementors before he was a true Slytherin

[@carlrood4457]

Can we give props the Harry that he's able to recognize that Dudley has been raised with a different frame of reference when it comes to kindness. It's a level of understanding most 17 years old's wouldn't have.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

Harry stopped being bitter about Vernon and Petunia's poor parenting when he found a real family that actually love him like family, learned he was mega-rich, and could do literal magic. That kind of dramatic shift in living situation also comes with a paradigm shift.

[@Ranger1812]

"17-year-olds". There's no apostrophe. Apostrophes denote possession or contraction but are never used for pluralisation.

[@khaymengraves]

It's a level of understanding most people in general don't have.

[@cliffwarden5934]

My guess after listening to the intro: Hufflepuff. Assuming he still hates magic he probably won't want to be in the magic bloodline focused Slytherin, he might have the potential for Gryffindor, but considering how he mellowed out towards harry near the end I think he might be a more accepting person than his upbringing initially allowed him to be, and Hufflepuff could help bring that out of him.

[@furrydreamer4443]

Okay so here's the thing about Crabbe and Goyle getting into Slytherin. They are ambitious. They want to put their muscle to work under the biggest name they can. They know they're thicker than Percy's preferred cauldron's bottom, they know they're lot in life is gruntwork under someone elses plans. But they want to be under the biggest bully in the playground. Just look at book seven. 'We don't work for you no more Draco'. They weren't his friends... they were his lackey's. They put up with him because he had status. Then they got the chance to be under a bigger dog in Lord Voldemort and said 'Well yep. We'll take that.'. They are very ambitious and powerhungry, and value status highly. I can't really see them anywhere else.

[@GreyPunkWolf]

It literally is the only thing they value, too. Just like Neville is the textbook definition of a Griffindor, they literally represent what ambition above ALL else means.

[@lahlybird895]

Yup

[@MikeDCWeld]

I think Dudley would have been essentially a blend of Malfoy and Crabbe/Goyle. A beautiful blend of ambition and muscle. The hard work he eventually learned to put into boxing was more a result of his inherent desire to be the baddest bully in town. Because it was a means to an end rather than a true value I don't think the Sorting Hat would have used it to justify putting him in Hufflepuff, even _if_ it could see that eventuality.

[@SomeBritishGal1]

Also their parents were Death Eaters. I'm sure the Hat put that into account.

[@lahlybird895]

@@SomeBritishGal1 it doesn't always run in families

[@MikeDCWeld]

I'd like to hear your thoughts on how Petunia would have reacted if Dudley had turned out to be magical, especially since she didn't get to be. After all, it was her rejection after her younger sister was revealed to have the ability to do magic that turned her against the magical community in the first place.

[@kellysouter4381]

Petunia would be very conflicted.

[@JustMe-]

It would take time for petunia to overcome it - because she has been feeling these negative feelings for years. However, her love for Dudley overpowers anything. So it could be like “well my Dudders is special wizard and not a freak like XYZ. He’s not like them.” Cognitive dissonance and love are powerful lol.

[@lahlybird895]

@@JustMe- the pride of hypocracy

[@lahlybird895]

The real question is, how would vernan react?

[@AustynSN]

I've always though Petunia would be thrilled, but it would have led to her and Vernon divorcing as he would blame her "dirty bloodline" for polluting and "ruining" their son. (In truth, before the reveal that she'd written to him to beg to go to Hogwarts, I figured the big secret between Petunia and Dumbledore was that Dudley was a wizard, but Dumbledore was suppressing it somehow at Petunia's request so Vernon wouldn't find out.)

[@JasperPeters]

I'd have to disagree on Neville being a good example of someone sorted based on value. I'd say Peter Petigrew is a good example of that. But Neville was very brave from the first book already. Standing up to his sorting bullies during the Quidditch match, as well as standing up to the trio for which he even receives house points because it takes even more bravery to face your friends than to face your enemies. In other words Neville was already brave, even if also scared and shy.

[@J24-k8f]

Ten four. Not being scared is either foolishness or carelessness. Acting through fear's paralyzing grasp is bravery.

[@aon02b]

Let's not forget the fact that Snape was literally Neville's WORST FEAR. Being brave doesn't mean not having any fear. It means being brave enough to face those fears, which Neville did every single day!

[@fransmith3255]

I agree. I think a lot of people misconstrue lack of bravery/weakness and lack of confidence. Neville had a severe lack of confidence, which shouldn't be confused with lack of bravery. The two are completely different. Some of the most unconfident people on earth are also the bravest. And visa versa - there are a lot of people who are confident, yet exceptionally wimpy. Confident people rarely need to practice bravery, whereas unconfident people practice it every day.

[@IzraelGraves]

You HAVE to be scared to be brave. There is no courage without fear.

[@Ranger1812]

Neville's a good example because he specifically thought he wasn't right for Gryffindor and asked to be sorted into Hufflepuff.

[@tucker-mk5zd]

My favorite HeadCannon is that Harry and Big D trade Christmas cards every year until Big D's daughter gets her letter from Hogwarts

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

What would Dudley’s daughter be called?

[@christianrose9166]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff Dorothea. Dorothea Dursley, named so for a girl who would step out into a new world.

[@tucker-mk5zd]

Daisy I'd say, fits with the flower and D theme

[@cassiuscoombs3313]

Is Cho the mum?

[@tucker-mk5zd]

@@cassiuscoombs3313 no clue

[@addisonrotan3501]

I have loved all of these “what if” deep dive Harry Potter videos lately! You guys should do more about the Marauders and maybe what their past was like and how that could affect Harry’s journey

[@TaiaFlake]

Also Percy shows signs of being ambitious amd cunning but in the 7th book he shows what he truly values bravery and fighting for what's right

[@robinbaylor2672]

There’s a short fanfic that I find really plausible about the Hat trying to sort Percy into Slytherin, and Percy having none of it because his family only considers Gryffindor acceptable. The story ends at the sorting itself, but I get the impression that if Percy had been a Slytherin he would have learned to be more aware of and resistant to Fudge trying to use him against his family.

[@courtneysword6367]

I wish the books would have had Dudley's kids be magical and him break that cycle, bonding him and harry more

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

I remember reading a short kind of summary of a potential plotline like that years back. Basically, his daughter ends up magical, and he reaches out to Harry to figure out how to handle it, his kid and I think Harry's kid(s) get on well? There is more to it than that, but that's one of the main parts of it.

[@lucypreece7581]

There is a fan made headcanon that further down the like Dudley meets and gets with Cho Chang and they have a magical kid. If you wanna think that as well.

[@Weronika_24_]

Imagine if he got invited for Harry and Ginny's wedding or something. One hour in a Burrow and he will be more fascinated by magic than Lockhart about himself...

[@primmoore6232]

Future what-if fiction: Adult Dudley is married, has 2 kids, Patrick & Violet. He & Harry aren't best buds, but do have a pleasant relationship. 🎄Ginny sifted through the day’s mail, opening each Christmas cards as she came to it. “Harry! Card from Dudley.” “Alert the media,” he muttered as he hung another string of lights. “There’s a note. For you.” She held out a folded bit of white paper. Harry took it, curious. Pushing his glasses up, he quickly scanned the note. “Petunia will flip if this is true,” Harry mused. Ginny read over his shoulder. The words seemed to have struggled to get onto the paper, stiff and hesitant. 📜 *Harry - Happy Christmas. How are you? I am fine. Hope you are, too. Remember when we were little and went to the zoo for my birthday? That snake got loose. And the time Aunt Marge visited and got sick and swelled up? Well, things like that are sort of happening here with my kids. Not as big a deal as when you were around. It was just a book that Patrick floated across the room. And Violet changed the color of her jumper. No big deal. But I got to wondering. Could you tell if someone might need to be at that school of yours? Maybe you could stop by and see? Thanks. Happy Christmas. DD* Ginny let out a long whistle. “Petunia for sure will flip. And the Headmistress! Dursleys at Hogwarts! Wow.”

[@Boundwithflame23]

@@primmoore6232 I think I’ve been listening to the audiobooks too much cuz I had Jim Dale in my head while reading that

[@coolnerdlll6053]

Okay, this theory aside, Dudley being a Muggle-born wizard and going to Hogwarts deserves a seven-part series. You guys are sitting on a gold mine the likes of Gringotts has never seen.

[@Zoroth3Demon]

The irony of his parents being wizard haters would have been nice lol

[@digitaldynamic3476]

Well Said! 👏

[@workingstiff0586]

Yes, yes they should and yes they are.

[@Koebalt]

Facts

[@primmoore6232]

Dudley's blood status is why he can't be in Slytherin. HE might fit their style, but THEY would NEVER allow a muggleborn to prosper in their House!

[@devonwatson4385]

As a Hufflepuff, we will happily teach Dudley kindness and compassion. Maybe Harry would've had even better summers every year with Dudley being a Hufflepuff.

[@kellysouter4381]

🍀

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

I'd imagine the same

[@EpsilonChurchRVB]

I honestly cannot see Dudley being a hufflepuff, considering he isn't loyal, even to his own group of bullies who even fear him. Plus, he dislikes the concept of hard work.

[@resathe6760]

even better summers. That sounds like he had great summers all the time ;D

[@amandawoodruff4491]

True but I want him in slytherin

[@bhavens9149]

Oddly I think he'd end up in Hufflepuff, because in the end he absolutely cared about Harry, And He's a foodie. I also don't think he'd end up in Slytherin because that would be too much work, and he doesn't really care if people like him, not ambitious, and he might wish he was cunning, but he's just not. Not my favorite character, but I think he ends up being a better person than one might first think.

[@stephj505]

But if Dudley didn't like hard work, then he wouldn't be in Hufflepuff either.

[@bhavens9149]

@@stephj505 Well, as Ben pointed out he worked hard learning to box, so there is that. :) but again I think its my hufflypuff ness that wants to see the good in people so my judgement might not be the best. :)

[@babyfaceweeb8937]

@@stephj505 I mean, you don't have to be hardworking to be in Hufflepuff. You'd have to value at least one of the attributes.

[@aon02b]

I actually do think he's cunning though. He's definitely figured out how to get what he wants. As a young child he would fake-cry to manipulate his parents. And once he got older, he would only do what they wanted him to do if they payed him. He's also the leader of his gang, and he brags about his boxing achievements. To me, that shows ambition and resourcefulness. He's not kind or hard-working, and he's not loyal unless there's something in it for him.

[@armycarat647]

no

[@willkasch568]

I love how Ben is holding the ball and switched chairs but the ball stays in the same place 🤣 also Dudley telling Harry he wasn't a waste of space was a BIG GAME CHANGER and yeah it was him basically telling Harry he loved him but in his own way that one line was all the redemption Dudley needed in my eyes, that was him turning a page in his life to be a better person.

[@klemchowder1692]

That they removed that scene from the movie devastates me. Dudley is such a good character.

[@lahlybird895]

Yeah there was some definite character assassination happening here In the scene where Harry asked if he beat up a 10 year old. Firstly Harry propose the question as a hypothetical "how old was your aponent, ten?" Clearly only asked to make fun of Dudley, just a random insult. But in the movie he says "beat up another 10 year old?" Implying that they sing Dudley is known for doing and have done it before. Then there's Dudley's reaction to this question in both mediums. "He was 16." Which indicates that not only was he not picking on a child but actually defeating an older person successfully, a clear point of pride and celebrating his accomplishment while simultaneously proving Harry's assessment incorrect. While in the movie he just says, "This one deserved it." One-hundred-percent confirming that Harry is correct. In the books we never actually gone 20 indication that he picked on any children other than Harry, other than Harry's assumptions, which could be faithless given that they don't spend much time together and Harry may not be a reliable narrator in this case. But in the movie they all out confirm back what he's doing and that he's proud of it

[@ThreadBomb]

@@lahlybird895 But "This one deserved it" is funnier.

[@lahlybird895]

@@ThreadBomb Ron's movie lines, funny or not it's still character assassination

[@Ranger1812]

Things are cut for timing and pacing, and something not being shown doesn't meant didn't happen.

[@Ranger1812]

@@lahlybird895 That isn't character assassination.

[@hufflepom]

Random idea for a theory video: What would have happened if Mrs. Figg came to the doorbell with Harry and Dudley and was there when the Dursleys answer the door.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

She may reveal that she KNOWS about the magical world and that she was born to magical parents. The Dursleys may then become skeptical of her and accuse her of possible witchcraft on Dudley.

[@lahlybird895]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff ooo derama

[@williamheath7058]

Griffyndor is possible because if he knew about all the magic issues in the world and the threat to his parents, he probably would step up to the taks, not leadership, but he would try i think especially when he realises that he isnt special compared to syltherin

[@blastdragon1991]

No, Dudley's catchphrase isn't wit beyond measure but it is width beyond measure.

[@Zoeymacelroy0811]

His hardworking wouldn't land him immediately into hufflepuff. Draco is also incredibly hard working whether it's in class where he is second only to hermione, or in quidditch, or even his work for Voldemort. He took a cabinet that was completely useless and made it work perfectly. But both Dudley and Draco use their hard work to benefit themselves, so that they can boast about it. Not very Hufflepuff. And Draco himself comes around and saves Harry by not identifying him. The only reason Draco even shows up in the room of requirement is to get his wand back. The major difference is that Hufflepuff values hard work for the sake of honesty. Dudley does not.

[@lahlybird895]

Fair But then again if he really behind all the boasting or is that hisparents? And as I mentioned he is really loyal in his own way. And well he may be a spoiled brat who cares about himself a lot he also values being a good person, because what he saw during the dementors attack where's all the pain he'd caused other people, which means that somewhere in the back of his mind that idea must be weighing on him somehow, and he did try to change as we saw in DH, and caring enough to change yourself for the better if a short indication of someone who cares about being a good person at heart.

[@hedwigon6951]

Draco is not hardworking, he is never mentioned to do any significantly good work in any class except for Potions, but only because Shape favors him

[@lahlybird895]

@@hedwigon6951 she got an outstanding on his old WL which was not administered by Snape, he also got into transfiguration after OWLs which means he either got and exceeds expectations or an outstanding Also based on the conversation in book two it's implied that he only behind Hermione rather than being near the bottom of the class because if he was further behind more than just her he wouldn't have blamed her for getting better grades than him and would have tried to justify his bad grade some other way. Also you can't tell me he's not hard working after he wasted away for a year putting all of his energy into a single project. Just because we don't like him does not mean we should try to undercut his skill.

[@kneau]

@@lahlybird895 I agree & believe Dudley has the capacity to value, "hard work for the sake of honesty" even if sheltered from it in his youth.

[@lahlybird895]

@@kneau who knew Duddley of all people could be so complicated

[@evanbowers5299]

We need a full series of what Dudley life at honesty’s is detail through each of the books while having his cousin being the most important wizard in history

[@petrmaly9087]

Well, you can guess a lot. For example he was brutally bullied in his early school years. It's clear from the books and movies. His parents loved him and took care of him, yet he went through some horrible mental torment by the dementors, so he must have had some incredible painful memories. He surrounds himself by groups of friends and gains much more confidence after gaining physical strength and learning how to fight. He uses violence against others at school to assert dominance more in later books, but we see he is less and less abusive towards Harry and his parents at that same time. That shows he uses violence not to have fun, but to solve a problem. He uses less and less violence at home and more and more at school. This is typical behavior of people who were bullied, abused and decided to solve their problems by retaliating, by fighting bullies using strength of body and strength of numbers. His friends tend to like him and are willing to fight alongside him. His parents seem like useless in solving bullying problems at school, so he either didn't tell them or they didn't help. Also with solving his problem of being bullied, he had less need to vent his frustration on Harry or his parents and became much more balanced person.

[@lahlybird895]

@@petrmaly9087 what he saw during the dementor attack was was all the pain he had caused others, not pain he experienced

[@lahlybird895]

Harry Potter folklaure did it

[@petrmaly9087]

@@lahlybird895 That's not how the dementors work. Not in the books, not in the movies.

[@lahlybird895]

@@petrmaly9087 they make you relive traumatic experiences. Calling someone else harm can be just as traumatic as experiencing it yourself.

[@mr.wildride1954]

I feel it's only right to make a "what if Dudly was born with magical powers"

[@EAKugler]

"Sometimes, I think we sort too soon." Had Dudley been sorted at age 11, he'd have been a Slytherin. Dudley manages to grow, despite his parents, and thanks to Harry--not the least of which is because of the Dementor at Wisteria Walk. At 17, he'd be a Gryffindor.

[@dylantd9189]

I think he would have been a Gryffindor. He wasn't a people pleaser, wasn't ambitious, he would fit well with the likes of Cormac McClaggen

[@jonathanmartin5771]

My one problem with that end theory that the sorting hat can see deep down to who you really are is Peter Pettigrew.

[@christianrose9166]

The thing is, Peter did eventually show who he is, just before his death. He's always been a coward, but he wanted to BE brave. And at the end, he thought to repay a debt before following the orders of Voldemort. Peter was a terrible person, and I don't mean to excuse everything else he did throughout the series, but he was - in his own way, and only at the end - a brave soul. After all, bravery isn't about not being afraid. It's about being afraid, and facing that fear anyway. A man with no fear is not brave, he is simply a fool.

[@MagicXRoads534]

Dumbledore does say eventually that he thinks they sort too early, so at age 11 it's entirely possible that Dudley's Hufflepuff traits would be buried too deep for the sorting hat to end up putting him there, even if it can see them and seriously considers it at first.

[@lahlybird895]

I agree He may not even have his better, and well dormant trades can end up developing it's also entirely possible to just gained new trade that you didn't have before. For instance Nevilles confidence, or Hermione's flexibility.

[@BournetoRead]

@@lahlybird895 why did I just imagine Hermione casually doing backbends and flips in the Castle halls while the boys are trying to talk to her despite knowing exactly what you meant thanks for that image

[@lahlybird895]

@@BournetoRead rofl, that must happen now

[@6666Imperator]

personally when I saw the title and thought about it I thought he might fit in Gryffindor the best. He might embody the bad sides of the house (arrogance) but I think that would not be unfitting. But looking at what Ben said here he might even fit into Hufflepuff just the characteristics sleep inside of him and maybe time away from his parents will actually bring those things out earlier. However I do believe that sometimes the hat has to sort people into houses for their negative traits too otherwise why would the houses become infamous for the negative traits as well as the positive ones?

[@DizzyPanda25]

My head cannon for Dudley has always been that he’d try and rekindle his relationship with Harry after the events of deathly hollows and potentially had a magical child of his own maybe even meet a witch that he ends up marrying. I actually feel like Dudley going to Hogwarts and spending so much time away from his awful parents would have done wonders for him as a person. He might have treated Harry a lot better during summer and eventually stood up to his parents on his behalf as well. That is, if he doesn’t bully Harry at school.

[@theresaremsing2777]

Okay I love this theory. I am a proud Hufflepuff and I am personally more than okay to welcome Dudley into the house. I also enjoy the growth of characters and Dudley’s growth is one of those storylines that catches my eye and appreciation.

[@cugelchannel4733]

"Ar, yer a wizard too Dudley! Ya great prune! Probably be in Hufflepuff with all the other duffers!" -- Hagrid.

[@fancypig]

Loving the increase in HP content! I'm sure Hogwarts Legacy has something to do with it, but I'm excited regardless! Thank you all at SCB for your work in putting together these theories and big thank you to Ben and J for creating this amazing channel.

[@SithCitadel66]

Slytherin, his character except a small redemption arc (in a deleted scene of deathly hallows) (like Draco in deathly hallows) he amassed gangs to bully people and displayed everything it means to be a Slytherin

[@rubygracemoseley8144]

I think Dudley’s a Hufflepuff. Like Ben is saying I think that Dudley after being saved by Harry he starts to come into his own man and start to have his own opinions and ways of thinking. And he always seems to show some sort of (as messed up or weird as it might be) loyalty to Harry. Even going against his parents wishes. I really also think that once Dudley grows up and gets away from his family he becomes a loyal, kind, honest man

[@MonkeyBone10x3]

Dudley just gets sorted into the recycling bin out back behind the school

[@javanknox8360]

Though frowned upon, in "The Cursed Child" Dudley seems to try and stay somewhat close with Harry which would be hard considering the worlds they exist in. He gave Harry his blanket which he did not need to do. It was kind and considerate.

[@thecakejaffa1044]

That deleted scne where Dudly says that Harry is not a waste of space is such an amzing change for him.

[@devontyrell1969]

I would love to believe that Harry and Big D ended up having a great relationship after defeating Voldy Voldy and visit for the holidays

[@brandonhey7797]

pretty sure they do have a semi-decent relationship post-Deathly Hallows

[@thatoneguywithnointernet]

I view Dudley having Slytherin traits but also Hufflepuff because during the deleted scenes of the half blood prince or order of the Phoenix. He actually apologized to harry for everything he did proving he may become a loyal friend to him or others after learning his mistakes. Which the sorting hat purposely places you in a house that challenges you the most.

[@ConnorDoubleYou]

14:33 "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

Pre-video: In my crossover fanfiction where Dudley wrote himself into getting a letter (and almost dying), he ended up in Hufflepuff because, well, Lily and James still died, and for reasons, Harry was also presumed dead by all. Without Harry there as a reminder, Vernon and Petunia's rage faded, and they ended up telling Dudley stories of how his aunt and uncle bravely stood up to and stopped a super terrorist at the cost of their lives. This ended up with Dudley ambitiously wanting to become a policeman and protect others to honor them, even if he was going about it through underhanded means. The sorting hat saw his equal fitness for Gryffindor and Slytherin and took the third, valid option of Hufflepuff for his loyalty to his aunt and uncle's ideal. Edit: Fixed my brain jumping the tracks and doing the timewarp.

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

Huh. I was right. you brought up a couple points I forgot to but there it is.

[@lahlybird895]

Vernan and Lily? Now THAT is a plot twist I did not expect

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

@@lahlybird895 wow. I typoed hard. I meant Petunia.

[@maryjoyspohrer256]

Not to mention, boxing isn't just punching someone, it has skill and strategy as well. Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, and your opponents strengths and weaknesses, and how best to capitalize on these variables. Plus like you said, you are sorted into weight classes, so the pool is better controlled.

[@Pascaffa]

prediction: pure hat stall. The hat has no idea were to put him. He is not brave, has zero ambition, isn't loyal or friendly, and not intelligent. he is a hat stall that will cause the hat to use so much energy it creates a black hole

[@nerdragon2649]

I remember reading somewhere that in Harry's adult life, he and Dudley still keep in touch, and that Dudley even goes over to Harry's home for Christmas and such. If I'm not mistaken and that is true, I find it to be SOOOO nice

[@carlrood4457]

Also, boxing isn't just strength. It's stamina as well. You can be naturally strong, but being able to go multiple rounds without getting tired takes practice.

[@dantemoose420]

NGL, that bit about not being a waste of space hit different today. Think I needed that.

[@Silver_Girl178]

Definitely a Hufflepuff of the Zacharias Smith Variety- a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.

[@Jessidafennecfox]

I think Dudley would beat up that brat for insulting Harry, cause Dudders does care about his cousin.

[@haileym5912]

@Jessi da Fennec Fox yes, but he would not admit it was caring for Harry that made him do it. Either A) claiming that as unfortunately they're family he can't allow people to get away with disrespecting his family or B) making up a fake reason so he can pretend it wasn't for Harry

[@Jessidafennecfox]

@@haileym5912 definitely Dudley is tsundere

[@Silver_Girl178]

​@@haileym5912 Realy he would have started trading on the fact that he was the famous Harry Potter's cousin, as soon as he realized what that meant, and trying to pretend that they were closer than they were. The question is why/how long would Harry play along with that?

[@XeiDaMoKaFE]

that duck distracted me 3 times lol had to go back to listening again and again

[@elizabethcarver6661]

You should do a what if Dudley went to school with harry and how it would change the story

[@Jessidafennecfox]

YES

[@teresasikes6739]

Before watching this video literally on an ad before the video my prediction is either between Hufflepuff or Slytherin? Why? Well for one Dudley Dursley is described as “He is Harry's horrible, non-magical and slightly older cousin. He is blond, hates exercise and bullies Harry whenever he can, including at school where Dudley has a gang that he gets to pick on his own cousin.” His unpleasant and spoiled child. Then again Dudley isn’t brave, he isn’t smart, he later became nice but he always wasn’t, and he wasn’t cunning (from what I’ve seen) okay maybe he was I don’t entirely remember right now.

[@RancorSnp]

20 seconds in - Prediction : They will manage to find a way to put an Obscurus in this video

[@siddhantchauhan1975]

My choice would be gyriffindor owing to the bravery of boxing opponents, which is commendable. Also like slytherins, gyriffindors have a track record for bullying, such as James. Heck even James fought on unfair terms with assistant from mainly sirius.

[@jamespottersgf]

Prediction - Slytherin because he is such a natural leader and wants to be the most admired in his friend group

[@gugurupurasudaikirai7620]

Doubt it. He's Muggle born. Almost has to be Hufflepuff or Gryffindor. Doesn't have the brains for Ravenclaw

[@jamespottersgf]

@@gugurupurasudaikirai7620 i thought this was based on a petunia as a witch au, which makes him a halfblood

[@cheetahvgirl14]

You have to be a full blood wizard

[@gugurupurasudaikirai7620]

@@jamespottersgf They never said that. Petunia as a witch changes so much Dudley probably isn't even her son. I could easily see Dudley as the Gryffindor version of Draco. And if he's not a Gryffindor he'd land in Hufflepuff

[@cheetahvgirl14]

Remember Salazar slytherin only wanted pure bloods

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Parts of this reminded me of a Designing for Kindness analysis of the character King Dedede. He's pampered and has been a bully, even to those smaller than he. He trains himself up for fighting. Eventually he turns around and begins showing kindness, taking actions to help Kirby or his subjects. He becomes fond of Kirby and has his own way of showing it. It seems like Dudley has this in common.

[@katholmes7112]

My guess is Hufflepuff because he really doesn't fit any of the houses and Hufflepuff States 'I'll take the rest'.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Hufflepuffs are loyal and hardworking.

[@katholmes7112]

In the beginning though when the Founders chose traits that mattered, Slytherin, Ravenclaw and Gryffindor each showed a bias to what was acceptable for their house. Helga said fine, I'll take the rest. Hard work and loyalty were not required. But her house students saw her loyalty to them so they showed loyalty to her and a willingness in her name to work hard. However, neither trait is required because Hufflepuff takes them all no matter what. She, and her house, doesn't make demands of what qualities the students should have. You can put his boxing into hard work, but even if he had no passions Hufflepuff would accept him where the other houses would say no.

[@staticradio724]

Your videos are always funny, but I feel like whoever was in charge of intercutting the film clips with the script did some top notch work on this one. Some genuinely laugh-out-loud moments in this one. Props to your editor!

[@petrmaly9087]

I said it before and I will say it again - all the 3 Dursleys belong to Hufflepuff. Their main character trait is loyalty (to the family and to their social class. Vernon is a hard working man who only takes pride in it, in his achievements that secure his family can keep living as they do. No pub, no hobbies outside the house, he spends his life with the family. Even though he has good social skills, apparently, as his job requires them and he is good at it. Petunia is a housewife who loves her husband and son above all. Their ambitions are nothing more than keeping their place in the society, being seen as the perfect, ideal family of their lower-middle class. They do have some bravery and some ambition, but only when it comes to the safety and security of the family. It comes from loyalty. Dudley... He mostly lacks bravery and ambition, as his parents he lacks out-of-the-box thinking, but he has no problem finding and keeping friends and you can't be good at a sport if you don't work hard. So yes, Hufflepuff for all of them.

[@aliviaevans6984]

I love these! I'd love to see a "what if Draco was in Griffindor" how his parents would react, his relationship with Harry would be different....

[@NerdyBernie66]

The real question is: Would Dudley have been attacked by the basilisk?

[@BasiliskenWrestlingFan]

This Question leads me to another, even more interesting thought: What If Dudley and Harry both are Parselmouths but with Dudley being in Hufflepuff He in Fact is able to Help the Basilisk from the Chamber of Secrets to free itself from Voldemorts influence before Ginny is brought into the Chamber and becoming a friend, ally and loyal supporter of Harry and the good Side instead... Now I'm really curious and wonder if I'm the only one who Had that Idea before or If there are already Fanfictions with that plot...

[@moonstonepearl21]

Since he wouldn't be a pure blood, yea, he would be a potential target.

[@malixcrash4126]

Jay and Ben I have a question I'd like to propose as a video idea: *What if Hermoine was never able to be healed from the polyjuice potion failure? (as in, what if she stayed part cat)* Would she still be able to attend classes? Would she be run out of school? Would she stay friends with Harry and Ron? I feel it's worth a look

[@ChrissaTodd]

Because Harry in the book dislikes Malfoy because he reminded Harry of Dudley, and Malfoy who is a clear Slytherin so much so the hat doesn’t even have to touch his head, I am thinking Dudley would be a Slytherin but he may value what Harry is so who knows

[@gugurupurasudaikirai7620]

He's a straight up Muggle born. He'd either be Hufflepuff or Gryffindor. Doesn't have the brains for Ravenclaw

[@ChrissaTodd]

@@gugurupurasudaikirai7620 true but I ignore the muggleborn part as who knows I agree with gryffindor but all the hat will sense is his values at the time or values he doesn’t even know of Tom riddle is half blood and was still a Slytherin

[@toribellmar7623]

definitely not slytherin. thing about crabbe and goyal is that they ARE resourceful! they knew they had to be around draco to get connections to a wealthier, more prestigious family. not to mention that lucius was the most successful in avoiding azkaban than many. it’s like if sirius/regulus somehow got heirs, naturally the majority of slytherin kids would try to be close to that person because of the ‘The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black’ thing. and yeah, I won’t say I can see dudley being okay with being a b-list when he was told he’s so wonderful by his parents but he also doesn’t have cunningness witch comes with cleverness and high intelligence because in order to create contingency plans for getting to the top takes a lot.

[@snippyhera]

Dang, this is the earliest I've ever been! I'm excited to watch this. Love your videos ❤️

[@jakesacher2078]

I love the J vs Ben call back.

[@kingbranden1369]

Dudley seems like the type who would want to be the jock that everyone likes. The hat sorts you into whichever house helps you the most not whichever house you'd do best in. Gryffindor would help Dudley the most so that's where he'd go.

[@Saimeren]

14:14 Thanks Ben. Some times it's nice to hear that.

[@JuanOosthuizen]

If Dudley was a Wizard maybe Petunia would be more caring with Harry as she's proud to have a wizard son and accepts Harry. She then tells Harry stories of Lily and Snape being friends so Harry goes to school thinking of Snape as one of his mothers best friends instead of his fathers Nemises.

[@jenniferpajor5365]

I disagree. I don’t think Petunia was awful to Harry simply because he was magical. She felt upstaged by her little sister and she never wanted her son to feel like that. Even if Dudley were a wizard, she would still treat him much better than Harry for that reason.

[@JuanOosthuizen]

@@jenniferpajor5365 yes but most of her jealously came from Lily being a Witch while she wasn't so Dudley being a Wizard, possibly exhibiting powers before Harry, imo would have made her a slightly better person in the long Run

[@BlueLion1996]

He would most likely be sorted into Hufflepuff. And the reason is because he doesn’t fit in the other three. He can’t be a Slytherin as he is a muggleborn. In addition, we saw Dudley being loyal and concerned to Harry towards the end. In addition, he seems resemble his father in personality, just like how Draco takes after Lucius. Despite his cruel nature to Harry, Vernon was a hard worker . It’s why he was director in the first place.

[@Jareddyck]

Another theory video another great day!

[@LoveFreestylingLife]

I’m a romantic at heart, I’d love to see Dudley find a gal from Hufflepuff on the train to Hogwarts and become absolutely smitten with her the way his dad is with petunia. Love can definitely sway a person.

[@calsnidely2915]

I mean I'd zacharia Smith can be a hufflepuff Dudley definitely can

[@chaysepannell]

Could the sorting hat be made from a Qilin?? If the sorting hat can see deep down into someone’s soul to see who they truly are and what house they are supposed to be in, does it possess the same abilities as a Qilin? I smell a video brothers

[@kohganightbane9430]

Plot twist: the hat gets on Dudley's head, and it says "Azkaban!"

[@kellysouter4381]

😂

[@leonrobinson8180]

Thanks. That made me chuckle out loud

[@emmamariacci6039]

If it didnt do that for umbitch then it aint doing it for anyone

[@idavavpetic5464]

The BEST part of the video is Ben bragging about knowing where the demetor attack to place. 😂😂

[@CurlyCross]

This is the perfect time to do a 7 part series on what if Dudley went to Hogwarts! Attempt #21.

[@lahlybird895]

That's the thing I don't think they can Eufy another channel Harry Potter folklore already did this a few years ago. So if they attempted they'll have to manage to avoid any lawsuits or something over copying a different channel much older idea. It's different from other popular theory that they taken and touch their own ideas on to that channel did a full 7-part series covering each book, making it more specific and personal to that creator, rather than a commonly-held fandom theory. Princeton a lot of people may have their own name is a vampire theory, it's more of a widely accepted theory that everybody just kind of knows about and lots of a personal theory, but not everyone has done a 7 video deep dive theory series on a specific and highly detailed theory like this, not like this video where they just do a common question that anybody could have asked and take have their own take on it but a full seven episode furious would involve a lot of complicated detail and three tracing

[@CurlyCross]

@@lahlybird895 The other creator can not do a lawsuit on someone else theorizing the same thought, they could only do a lawsuit (possibly) if they copied everything from their video. They could easily have their own theory on what if Dudley went to Hogwarts. For example they have taken the Pixar Theory (someone else's idea) and made it their own and expanded on it.

[@lahlybird895]

@@CurlyCross true A 7-part series but both of them would have made with the same title

[@CurlyCross]

@@lahlybird895 That's KZbin.

[@lahlybird895]

@@CurlyCross and on KZbin people get accused of cheating and copying and plagiarizing for a lot less

[@tinas_hotdog_sophie]

01:08 The ravenclaw joke was too obvious - signed, a Ravenclaw :P

[@Wailerman]

Even if she wasn't a witch, she clearly has some magic blood, because her sister was a witch

[@Wailerman]

Maybe next HP What If should be what if Harry and Neville both got to have their parents

[@Zoroth3Demon]

Called this from the start with the same exact reasoning. 😂 I like this channel

[@bilboswaggings]

I feel like Dudley would be sorted into two houses because he wouldn't be happy with just one

[@MythicalDestruction]

6:25 *knock knock* “MOVE!!” “He’s asleep” I’m laughing so hard I’m crying real tears.

[@IamnotJenny]

I think the only logical video to make now is petunia and dudleys patronuses

[@kellysouter4381]

Stick insect and a pig would be my guess

[@ShannonLynn21]

A question I would love you guys to theorize about: What did Dudley experience when faced with dementors? Even Harry was curious and confused by Dudley comatose state afterwards, "what would spoiled pampered Dudley have seen?"

[@TheSonofruss]

I highly doubt that he would end up in Slythern

[@u140550]

I mean besides the thing you bring up, I think does fit him in the sense that he gorgeous on food like there is no tomorrow.

[@olhydra]

Y’all’s theoretical HP content is always better than the original story, and your theories almost always make sense in a way that it resolves so many plot threads and inconsistencies in the original, but yet I definitely doubt any of them were intended by she who must not be named. I wish we had a HP book series completely rewritten by y’all, with Harry being a Slytherin and Petunia being magic, because y’all have laid the story out so well that so many of the new events echo the original themes in a much more poetic, full-circle sort of way. Everything just makes more sense the way you guys rework it.

[@grec.]

Well, I'll argue something about Neville though. He did showed bravery traits since year one, becase he confronted the golden trio and it's why Albus awarded him, becase he wanted to build Neville's character and awarded his act of bravery despite being a known clumsy and unsecure boy.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

To all you people saying Slytherin, Dudley would be a Muggle-born, so he WOULDN’T make Slytherin.

[@Youknowwhoyounopoo]

No because in this world, Petunia is a witch so he would be a half blood

[@TeachMeBert]

And even if Slytherin did theoretically accept muggleborns, well... I can't be the only one who sees what a _horrendously_ bad idea it would be to put a muggleborn in the house whose defining characteristic is "rampant, unapologetic racism towards muggleborns", right?

[@kellysouter4381]

@@Youknowwhoyounopoo petunia is not a witch.

[@christianrose9166]

@@kellysouter4381 This theory of "which House would Dudley be sorted into" is predicated on the previous video "what if Petunia was a witch". As such, in this theoretical, Petunia is a muggle-born, while Dudley is a half-blood.

[@Youknowwhoyounopoo]

@@christianrose9166 EXACTLY! He mentions it in this video too.

[@tylerchoate8059]

I wonder what kind of ramifications that would have on the Dursley’s, wouldthey treat him the same or would petunia treat him differently. How would he and Harry get along?

[@anvos658]

Well up until the owls start delivering two invites to Hogwarts nothing would change, as I'd see Petunia self deluded enough to miss or rationalize any accidental magic Dudley does, and seeing Dudley's name on half the letters would probably just make Vernon and Petunia even more into trying to ignore the letters. Afterwards this probably does change things, though I don't see Hagrid taking Dudley as he'd just fall under whatever school/ministry program handles muggleborn mages. Year two and three this definitely changes things, since Petunia would believe Dudley about a weird magical creature stalking Harry and year three even if the incident still happens there is no way Petunia or Vernon are letting Harry run away if Dudley could get in trouble. The Dursley's probably are better to Harry year 1 summer break and onward, mostly just seeing treating Harry better as a means to have him protect Dudley.

[@princessregime]

I’m already predicting Vernon would be a Gryffindor

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

I think so too. He wanted to appear tough in front of Hagrid and Moody. He wanted to DISPLAY bravery, similar to Wormtail.

[@stardust9871]

Vernon was always ready to throw hands. He knew when he was out matched but he was always ready to defend his family. I know this might sound strange but if not griffendore I think he would be in Ravenclaw simply because of all the ways he thought of blocking hogwarts in book one.

[@GanyuSimpingDegenerate]

Dude was ready to throw hands with Hagrid in the first book. If that ain't bravery I don't know what is

[@dishman4694]

This is the Sorting I have been waiting for to discuss. I don’t even think any other house can begin to deal with Dudley other than Hufflepuff. He would be humbled so much here.

[@yukalue]

I was going to be mad when you said hufflepuff, but you make great points. It also shows how things like racism and classism are learned not born with.

[@stardust9871]

Absolutely and maybe Hufflepuff would help him realize how wrong his up bringing has been. Something that happens a lot when kids go to college and realize "wow there is a better things to do things!" Or at least that was my experience

[@lahlybird895]

@@stardust9871 definitely I mean he kind of already figured that out a little in the main timeline so

[@runwithkings20]

I was watching Chambers of Secrets again. And it got me wondering. Did Tom tell the school, he saw Hagrid with a huge spider, and that is what killed Myrtle? And if so. Wouldn't it have been obvious, that it wasn't a spider that killed her. And did Hagrid get to plea his case? Or was his expulsion automatic?

[@ryangale3757]

The impression I got was that basically once a scapegoat had been found and the deaths seemed to stop, the authorities just went with Hagrid and the spider as the culprit and didn't look anywhere else or really consider the evidence. More of a 'close enough' result, which was all they needed since the problem had passed and there was no rush to actually find out what happened now.

[@groudon1326]

Prediction: I'm guessing hufflepuff

[@MegaXboxgeeks]

I can’t believe how many of these you can make so quickly

[@Anthony_Jiang]

Gryffindor all the way

[@iimax_9135]

Gryffindor forever! :)

[@ashtoncocoandrosey]

No huffapuff

[@ashtoncocoandrosey]

Or revenclaw

[@Anthony_Jiang]

@@ashtoncocoandrosey ok i’d agree with ravenclaw but not hufflepuff cause I think it’s Gryffindor cause like Peter he wants to stick with people and I’d imagine he wants to stick with harry

[@ashtoncocoandrosey]

@@Anthony_Jiang what about sletharein

[@orangetuxedoman]

I was right in my guess! Now I have a reason why. Love the show, looking forward to more every week, few channels maintain that kind of engagement from me. Keep winning Carlin Bros! The rest of us are right behind you.

[@Hxshr]

Hi i love ur vids

[@MrJackdotw]

I always thought that a great idea for a continuation of the series could follow Dudley's magical child and their Hogwarts journey.

[@TaiaFlake]

To support this theory: Crabbe and Goyle became very ambitious once Draco left. They valued his clever plans because they didn'thave their own and once the need for brains and cleverness were gone they didn't listen to him any more. Also Hermione isn't in Ravenclaw even though she is super smart and seems to value knowledge. She says in book 1 "books and cleverness? There are more important things." (Thats the movie quote) And Dudley is loyal to his friends and family. Which you can see as after the dementor attack he finally sees Harry as family which is when he starts his journey to kindness.

[@korsaiyajinkami3766]

You say that Dudley as a boxer would be fairly matched against those of equal weight/skill because of the weight-class system, but I think you're at that moment forgetting who his parents are. I could totally see Vernon Dursley bribing those in charge so Dudley gets put in a weight-class where he has an overt advantage.

[@endersdragon34]

But he was the heavyweight champion

[@daisy3840]

hey brother

[@CLStudios_]

before playing the video, i took a few minutes to think about it and i figured that he would be a hufflepuff (like me). I knew this because of the way he acted in later books, his loyalty towards his friends, and the fact that he is in fact a muggle born.