Great explanation, I went with the p60 master just before Christmas and love it. Hose is brilliant, just wish it was a bit longer! I will check out a Kem website as always looking for something new. Thanks again
@P1Fanatic Жыл бұрын
This is the video I was looking for 👏🏻 even Ava don’t explain the differences well. The Evo looks better to my eyes and seems more practical other than having to build it on first use.
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you found it useful!
@SparkleanAutos2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I had the same question myself and this demonstrates it perfectly 👌🏼 all going to be personal preference isn't it, or weighing up NEEDS Vs WANTS 👍🏼
@ommegangmartijn10 ай бұрын
I am looking for 1 of the 2. After some research I also came across the maintenance videos that you need to do if you want to qualify for the 20 year warranty. The fact that the Evolution series is beautiful and everything is neatly concealed is also a disadvantage for maintenance. The Master series is much easier to open to get to the engine than the Evolution. This is one thing that is much forgotten and decisive for me.
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
believe it or not, the evolution is slightly easier to work on when you have it opened up. They are both identical inside, and when it comes back to reassembly, the Evolution model seems to slot back together slightly easier!
@markhamill801625 күн бұрын
Brilliant video, I’m also from Northern Ireland! I would like to get your thoughts on what I should buy for car washing only. I can buy a p50 easy for £189 From b&q or a p60 master for £329 With loads of attachments. Is the p50 good enough or is it worth the extra for p60 master? The p60 is only 8 metre hose and the p50 easy is 12 metres. Just want the best experience of using a snow foam cannon to get the best foam and also wonder does it make rinsing the car by having stronger 145 bar pressure. Also I wonder is the p60 Master quieter! Thanks for your help
@rossyvdp17 күн бұрын
@@markhamill8016 the easy models were aimed at mostly occasional weekend Warriors but as a perfectly capable machine and shares the same connections as the bigger master or evolution models. As you say, the easy model comes with a 12 meter hose but be aware that there is fibre reinforced rubber as opposed to the stainless steel reinforced models that the master and evolution share. The biggest difference however is the AVA go and easy models use a three piston pump with a brushed motor whereas the master and evolution models share a four-cylinder pump and a brushless motor . My honest opinion is that if you buy an easy you’ll be delighted with it and you will not feel like you’re missing out however if you are washing more vehicles more regularly than I would recommend going with the master . When it comes to chemicals working with your foam, Cannon check out a-kem who are a NI best chemical manufacturer who specialise in car cleaning products?. www.a-kem.com
@PaulDoldenDetails2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Smart P60 it’s a great machine just waiting for the brand new easy version to arrive both these machines look very good better storage than the smart series
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
The smart machines are really great too, but the difference between the Smart/Go/Easy and the larger Master/Evolution is brushed motors vs brushless
@poshpickle90247 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful!
@CThienV Жыл бұрын
Ava needs an adaptor to rotate the spray angle. Weird.
@daveallsopp320 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got an evo p60, I’ve had three issues 1 the fuse in the plug has blown a couple of times and the aluminium handle for the hosereel vibrates like hell when you operate the machine also the water flow pulses when operating with the vario nozzle other than that a 12 metre hose instead of 8 would be better
@rossyvdp Жыл бұрын
Are you using an extension lead with your AVA? Very unusual for the P60 to blow a fuse Also that’s a very strange about the handle. Agreed about the hose length. I have recommended 8m for 60; 10m for 70 and 12m for the 80 series machines, but I guess that’s why extension hoses are sold
@daveallsopp320 Жыл бұрын
I plug it direct into socket with the cable fully extended, I used it today but it wouldn’t start so changed the fuse in the plug again and it was fine, my home electrics are fine as they have just been checked so I know it’s not that
@P1Fanatic Жыл бұрын
Interesting as first time I read the fuse issue in P60 and seemed to be more the P70/80 as higher ampage. I was set on a P60 Evo but will be using an extension reel as my garage socket is right at the back of the garage.
@daveallsopp320 Жыл бұрын
@@P1Fanatic not sure what it was with the one I had maybe a Friday afternoon one, anyway Ava have now got it back to look at and I got my money back, I’m going to start using my yellow peril again until I’ve saved enough for a kranzle k7/122 ts, which to be fair is what I wanted but the price dictated me getting the Ava and certainly given the guarantee they offered
@daveallsopp320 Жыл бұрын
@@P1Fanatic I am quite sad about the whole scenario, on paper the p60 is perfect apart from the length of the hose, I know that my home electrics are ok having had them checked after some worm being carried out, im just wondering now if I got a Monday morning or Friday afternoon machine, either way a bad experience from your first experience doesn’t bode well, I have to say though I bought it from Slims detailing and they couldn’t have been more helpful, I was dealing with Sadie and she kept me informed of all the conversations between her and Ava, she offered me a replacement or a full refund which I took the later, im now saving for what I wanted in the first place but couldn’t justify then and that’s a Kranzle k7
@P1Fanatic Жыл бұрын
I was looking at the Nilfisk E160 but now leaning towards a P60 Evo due to the stubby gun and longer warranty. I read that you have to service it every 5yrs with a service kit. Any idea what the cost of the kits are and what you have to swap as finding it hard to find this info? Presumably just a few seals if they expect you to DIY service.
@geo2472 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard around £45 and they supply you with a new pump which you fit your self and send them a couple of videos. They then extend your warranty for another 5 years after which you just repeat the process
@P1Fanatic Жыл бұрын
@@geo2472 where did you see this as it seems difficult information to find and I ended up buying a P60 Evo
@geo2472 Жыл бұрын
@@P1Fanatic I’ve just ordered a Evo P60 today. I saw the information about buying a service pack (which includes a replacement pump) every 5 years on a YT video. Actually if you Google AVA service kits you’ll find them, I found one for £28 which when fitted gives you another 5 years.
@rossyvdp Жыл бұрын
The beauty about AVA is that they run the right to repair, which basically means that all repair parts are offered at cost price
@FlyYouFools88 Жыл бұрын
Evolution P70/P80 models have been OOS for months 😫
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
all back in stock UK wide
@darraghlinehan8295 Жыл бұрын
What model is best for mobile valeting?
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
Whatever suits your budget really. If you need truly mobile the P40 is fine - not as powerful but a truly mobile unit
@marksteele87602 жыл бұрын
what is the height of the evolution one please
@daveallsopp320 Жыл бұрын
37 1/2 inches with nozzles in situ
@theflyingmilkfloat Жыл бұрын
Whereabouts are you? I'm interested in buying an Ava washer
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
I'm based in Downpatrick, Northern Ireland
@gingerninja71876 ай бұрын
Quite easy buy the evolution, much better design
@rossyvdp2 ай бұрын
There are some definite advantages, but I am still using both on a regular basis