Which Camera Has the BEST Black and White JPEG Profile?

[@PetaPixel]

Apologies for the dark frame at 16:25. I screwed up! - Jordan

[@jlwilliams]

No apologies necessary. But the murky look of all the podcasting-studio scenes demonstrated why b&w video needs to be lit completely differently from color video. Watching a couple of episodes of the old "Perry Mason" TV series should be all the clinic needed. (But Jordan already knows all this...)

[@PissBoys]

Believe it or not, jail.

[@dominikkulas3038]

No worries

[@benbunch4159]

1 out of 28,500 ain’t bad. I mean, it ain’t bad but we’d still fire you. ;)

[@vitantoniodellorto250]

I thought for a moment you were going Sopranos-ending...

[@sherryzoltay7625]

I can personalize my Panasonic G9 II’s monochromatic styles, utilize a LUT, or tweak in post-all for a lot less money than some of the other camera brands you profiled. You always bring balance to the table along with a fun and informed narrative. Thank you for including Panasonic in your videos.

[@Penjerrix]

Sad you didn’t try the old PEN-F because it was designed to take nice B&W pictures. It has filters and you can easily manage highlights, shadows AND midtones.

[@brendanweldon9410]

You are right, no camera takes better B&Ws than a Pen F

[@mariusm2402]

Does the Pen-F have any other profiles than the other Olympus cameras? Thought all of them have the same profiles.

[@Penjerrix]

@@mariusm2402 Yes it has. 1. You have the Art Filters: Dramatic Tone II, Grainy Film I and II. 2. You have 3 Mono Profiles. a. Mono Profile 1: Flat: Highlight 0, Midtone 0, Shadow 0, Grain Off. b. Mono Profile 2: Kind of Tri-X: Highlight +6, Midtone 0, Shadow -6, Grain High. c. Mono Profile 3: "Infrared effect" with red filter +3. You can modify each Mono Profile Highlight, Midtone (I do not think the other cameras have a Midtone adjustment), Shadow, Grain and 8 color filters (yellow, orange, red, magenta, blue, cyan, green, yellow-green and set your settings.

[@mariusm2402]

@@Penjerrix thanks for detailing the available filters. No I have an idea why photographers asking for a Pen-F mark 2. The filters listed under 1 are available as well in the om-1. But the om-1 has only 1 B&W preset which can be configured with sharpness, contrast, color filter (neutral, yellow, orange, red and green), monochrome color and gradation. I change the color filter regularly, depending on the subject.

[@alex-reay]

@@Penjerrix yes other Olympus cameras have mid tone curve, when adjusted the highs and lows, just press the Info button to access the Mid curve 😊 I like to shoot my E-M5 II with -2 shadows, +6 mids, +2 highlights and Low Key Gradation (remember to lift the Exp Comp) which seems to closely mimic the gorgeous L Monochrome D profile of my little used GX9 but without the option to add grain of course.

[@TMM6900]

I love the lecia look. I didn't believe I would say that

[@dirkpehrke9909]

I miss the Ricoh GR, esp. the high contrast setting. And I know that Sony isn’t exactly admired for their jpgs, but I love the b&w mode on my Sony A6400. It’s a sleeper.

[@c73w]

The monochrome look in the Panasonic lumix G9 ii used to film this episode outdoor is really amazing

[@RobShootPhotos]

Yeah, I modify B&W on my Olympus. -0.7 or -1 EV, -3 shadow and +3 highlights, +1 contrast. I also like shooting Dynamic Tone B&W art filter.

[@KelvinSchwartzGrunlicht]

same, and some sharpness roll off, I set this up on the monochrome style and use art bracketing to get a copy of the totally erratic Grainy Film (II) style as well the LCD on the old E-M10 so far seems good enough to assess curve adjustments on the fly the pana L Mono D is really pulling me towards GX9 or G90, or even the G100 when they get real cheap if I keep shooting mostly jpg as SOOC as possible it'll be a great option

[@TCinSoCal]

Sony B&W is underrated. B&W images from my A7Cii are often excellent SOOC.

[@Aegiir]

Nice. I like my camera. Works for me

[@blueridge8992]

Nothing comes close to Acros, and this test proves it conclusively. Nice work!

[@JeanV1986]

That sounds like a very subjective conclusion.

[@blaudemar1]

@@JeanV1986

[@rjbiii]

Use HP5+ then add contrast in post

[@TMM6900]

The acros portrait is nice

[@cega1445]

I like that you still put Pentax in your tests, sadly many people forgot about Pentax...

[@fotografalexandernikolis]

More like they forgot about themselves. They clearly showed interest in mirrorless in 2013 with the K-01. They should have continued the mirrorless idea instead of abandoning it.

[@jungleboy1]

pentax? What are they?

[@Alfredolunafoto1]

@@jungleboy1 Google it

[@nathansstuff1547]

​​@@fotografalexandernikolisThey're a niche brand. Would be expensive for them to move to mirrorless. Sure they've made a couple, but it'd still be cheaper for them to make DSLR's like they do. And honestly the only real downside to it is size.

[@flagger2020]

​@@fotografalexandernikolisthe K-01 was forgotten because Jourdan took so long to his video review

[@pauliusgrigas2653]

Fuji FTW!

[@chris_keeps_taking_photos]

Hey I really enjoyed this style of video, and learned some stuff about some camera systems I will never ever shoot. Acros plus red forever, until I can afford a Leica.

[@stayuntilforever]

I love the contrasty filmic TX400 look. I set my Acros to Red and then +3 on highlights and shadows on my Fujifilms

[@tarekith]

A someone who shoots B&W 99.5% of the time, I loved this episode. Thanks for all the hard work!

[@dvdaltizer]

this video is so fun!

[@readrepairs]

Great idea, cool question.

[@larrywhite8590]

You folks need to look at the Olympus PenF for B&W done right.

[@ikoknyphausen198]

yes, profile 3 is the best

[@Jonahc-u6h]

You can set the settings in my OM5 Mark111 to match the Pen. You can do the same for all the OM series too. Rob Trek has the settings on his You Tube channel. Sooner have my mark111 with weatherproof and other features over the outdated Pen F

[@JSweeting]

I went back through and processed a RAW file in camera on my Lumix GX9 using L Monochrome D. Really happy with the quick edit I made. Thanks for the reminder of the filter options.

[@FPVwineUK]

I thought the Panasonic LUMIX Leica LUT would be gimmicky when I bought the G9 II.... Turns out I love it! And now I know why, darkened mid-tones! Beautiful, used way more than I would like to admit.

[@sanggamnapitupulu]

This is the type of video we didn't know that we needed. Nice comparison!

[@rafibenatar2519]

Very interesting 🙌👍🏻

[@christopherward5065]

I don’t use jpegs apart from as my final images so this was insightful. Going from colour raw to mono raw there are so many tools to get the feel that I need in post production. The JPEGs from some manufacturers were mainly about adding qualities that resemble a finished print and the use of filters. The others were about giving a starting point that retained detail and tonality so that some post-production could be applied to take the image in a desired direction. There was room for adjusting exposure the bright Pentax could have two-thirds of a stop less exposure, the tonality was all there and it has huge latitude. I would shoot all of them Raw + JPEG. Fujifilm’s treatments were most appealing straight out of camera. The main takeaway should be that all the cameras could produce more similar results from RAW files In post. Black and white is a much broader church than the JPEG comparison here would imply. But interesting to see how mono JPEGs appear.

[@raymondpenalver7095]

Great to see that you included a Pentax here, respect 🙌

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

Nikon and fuji look great🔥

[@johnsull34]

great comparison; really fun video

[@marianoanton3236]

Missing the Olympus PEN-F (ok, discontinued, maybe the EP-7). I liked X-T5, Pentax and very positively surprised by Nikon's result

[@georgedavall9449]

Z 7, Hands down! petty pixie

[@davidwebb091370]

for me, Nikon, Fujifilm and Leica have the best B&W JPEGs!

[@SomewhatAbnormal]

Glad you made this. I used a Leica Monochrom for a little while, and I couldn’t ever justify the cost of the camera and lens when I could get very similar results from my Fuji and Panasonic. This video solidifies what I was seeing.

[@nicholascorby1364]

I agree with you Chris, based on what you have shown us, the Nikon Z8 has the best tonal range. I wasn't inpressed with Leica considering the price of the system. I am an XT-5 user at the moment and apart fron the slow autofocus, complex menu and sometimes unreliability, I think it does a reasonable job. Monochrome is a good start. Cheers Nicholas

[@robertcudlipp3426]

Haven't read each of the 300 + comments, but would back the superb mono jpgs from my x 2 OMD any day. These cameras are true classics.

[@jeffdrew625]

I have & use both OM Systems & Pentax DSLRs, and thanks for including comments & observations about JPEGs. In general, the Olympus Digital Pen-f floats my boat for B&W images while traveling. The little camera was a winner right out of the box, imo! However, Olympus/OM systems offer literally hundreds of customizable tweaks & twiddles of its color & monochrome algorithms. There isn't much that I can achieve in RAW that can't be duplicated in JPEGs in the EM1 series, OM series and the Pen-F cameras. However there is a big learning curve & commitment to practice. Other systems =. same comments and abilities for monochrome & color. It's kinda like having the darkroom/post processing powers right in the camera for much of the imaging task. WOW! BTW- Pentax K3iii Monochrome is also amazing for serious imaging in B&W. Fujifilm's Acros emulations are awesome-even years ago.

[@CartyCantDance]

The lumix looks great!

[@terrywbreedlove]

My Nikon F3 in TRI-X 400 mode kicks ass. The GOAT

[@Koji-888]

Sometimes I pull mine out just to pet it. Feel the heft. Marvel at the engineering. Push the advance lever and shutter release. ツ

[@terrywbreedlove]

@@Koji-888 There is nothing as sweet as cocking the shutter on an F3.

[@random-k1f9p]

Nikon Z8/Z9 and the Leica are tops. Great looking. Thanks for the comparisons.

[@albertomartindelcampo9710]

Pen F is still my favorite for B&W

[@gabrielalamberti5860]

Olympus Pen F or the Olympus OMD EM1 should of been on this list.

[@lorenschwiderski]

Knee-Con for the win! Love my Nikon Z5. the Zeeee Five! Great dynamic range, with lots of room for editing. The jpg in Black and White is good. I simple shoot JPG + RAW and in some cases edit the B&W JPG and in other times edit the JPG to monochrome my way.

[@ValiRossi]

I love the monochrome setting on my EM1 Mkii. At first I wasn't that crazy about it but I found some help on a forum by someone who shoots mono and I loved his shots that he posted. I set my Olympus EM1 Mkii to The following: Sharpness: Default setting Contrast: +1 Gradation: Low Color Filter: None Monochrome color: normal Highlight & Shadow Control: Shadow: -3, Highlight +3 Often times I will set the ISO to 1600 or higher to introduce noise which looks awesome on the Mkii. Not a huge difference than default, but it made a big improvement in the image. Also try this with Hi Res mode.

[@alex-reay]

You’re very close to my B/W settings. Low Key Gradation. +2 high, -2 shadows but +6 midtones. No extra contrast. I like to use the Red filter. In my opinion it gets me close to the L Monochrome D look of the GX9. Low Key Gradation is the key here. Those settings don’t quite retain the shadow details of the L Mono D but it’s close enough for a camera that is much easier to hold.

[@ValiRossi]

@@alex-reay Wow! Thanks for the feedback. I can't wait to try your settings.

[@alex-reay]

@@ValiRossi hold that, I think I've given you the wrong settings to replicate L Monochrome D, the midtones above are too high! Try Auto Gradation which lifts shadows and lower highlights creating a flatter profile. L Monochrome D has good shadow detail, so Auto Gradation is the way to go. Then in the Tone Curve be careful not to lose that detail. I set it to +3 Highlights, -3 Shadows, 0 Midtones. No Contrast. That seems to create a really nice Mono JPG with good contrast without losing too much shadow info. It's all subjective of course. You might just like Low Key Gradation on it's own, with zero tone curve or contrast, it's really very nice. Panasonic really have worked some magic with L Monochrome D, I think I'm now in the ball park with my Olympus.

[@KelvinSchwartzGrunlicht]

@@alex-reay @ValRossi - great stuff, noted, thanks

[@alex-reay]

@@KelvinSchwartzGrunlicht that said, I’ve changed my Mono settings/recipe again to more resemble ValRossi’s settings. Now very happy with Normal Gradation, Contrast 0, Sharpness 0, Tone Curve -3 on the Shadows and +3 on the Highlights, Midtones at 0. Red filter on. The Gradation settings play a massive part, so if you want to retain more highlight and shadow detail then use Auto Gradation. You can then tweak the Tone Curve to adjust contrast to taste. For Colour, it’s just a slight tweak to the Natural picture mode, Gradation stays at Normal, Tone Curve +3 Hi, 0 Mids, -3 Shadows. White Balance on Auto but change Alpha +1, Green +2, everything else on 0. Dive into the Menu to Turn Warm Color off and the JPGs are 😍🤌🏻

[@Scout-nj7xj]

Fuji

[@sanfordlavine1760]

I’m so happy you are able to continue your reviews. They are always great. I’m fortunate to own an M11 Monochrom and I shoot Raw on it and with all of my other cameras. On my “color “ cameras I frequently shoot raw and monochrome jpeg. Shooting monochrome jpeg gives me an idea on what a raw converted to monochrome would look like.

[@ftlbaby]

Sony and Nikon for me. Probably would like Leica more if the portrait was in focus. Fujifilm second place. What about a Ricoh GR and Fujifilm X100 B&W comparison?

[@nerdyandy3101]

Smart, comprehensive summary. As a personal choice, I'd go Canon. Too bad i'm a Sony user ;-))

[@fistfulloflenses]

very interesting video,must get back to my first love,black n white photography

[@steviem8466]

interesting topic and results through the testing. What strikes me is how viewing a number of similar testing of popular brand cameras, whether it be colour or black and white, HDR or other, the Nikon Z8 is consistantley coming out in the top percentage, which to my mind shows what a great buy the Z8 would be for those looking to purchase a new full frame camera.

[@induction7895]

PP pros at it again.

[@JikoMuskato]

Interesting to see and I actually found the big two - Canon and Nikon - the most pleasing to look at with Fuji being very close. The other darker ones seemed to loose too much detail in the shadows, the brighter two weren't really that pleasing to look at. For my taste I guess Canon + a little bit more presence might work the best. Nice test!

[@spooky_lights]

Great video!

[@nikkonkde]

I like you did this vlog. I’m a Fuji amateur photographer and I was always curious to know how other manufacturers do this. I probably shoot 50% b&w

[@edn.3442]

Excellent video! Super informative and concise.

[@geophizz]

I found it hilarious that you chose the RX-100 for the test shiots because I use that camera in monochrome mode for my everyday carry. It gives me really punchy monochrome images that I rarely have to edit, and it would stack up really well here.

[@marximus4]

For simple monochrome JPEGs, I really like/d Sony's "high contrast black and white" picture profile available in their 3rd gen bodies. Not sure if it's available after those. When shooting Canon, I shoot monochrome and then crank the contrast all the way.

[@p3rrypm]

The leica and Fuji were similar but leica had a small bump in contrast, where Fuji chose to retain detail in the left eye.

[@thewaldfe9763]

I really love the Acros profile on my Fuji, mainly use it with the filter options though. The Nikon looks absolutely great here though. A bit like the Leica, but less extreme / more versatile.

[@JPC009]

My favourite is the K-3 III, the Pentax colours are something I miss since switching to Sony.

[@256guitarplayer]

Very interesting review and comparison. A nice change from gear oriented reviews. Thanks for doing this.

[@ezzellvfx2169]

It’s unfortunate you didn’t test the OM Systems/Olympus black and white art filter. It’s much more dramatic and interesting looking, has a real film grain added, and kind of feels similar to Tri-X. I don’t even touch monochrome.

[@SilvioRusmigo]

Such a fun video, super enjoyable to watch!

[@funtomias]

olympus pen f ftw ^^

[@don8635]

Even as a Fuji guy i really love sony's and nikon's crisp rendering. Default acros is maybe too flat, but its easy fix of +2/+3 highlights strenght setting :p

[@ekkanofiqandriyana7325]

For black and white photos the original ricoh gr aka mark one is still my top favorite followed by the across of fujifilm (xpro2)

[@csc-photo]

Thumbs up for Nikon and Leica in this comparison. Great vid / thanks!

[@henrylowenstein4444]

You left out the Nikon ZF, which was kind of set up to do black and white, and also the Fujifilm x100vi, which has all the bw film modes, and the Sony Riv mark 7. Lots of smaller bw emulation cameras as well. You need to do another video--especially with the Leica Q3. I mean, these seem to be on the cutting edge of non-devote bw. Right? Or am I missing some point?

[@Ektachrome]

Although it's an old-fashioned camera that people don't use these days, Fujifilm s3pro's monochrome mode remains a very good memory

[@treharris1677]

Fantastic video! I started shooting again 1.5 years ago but decided to shoot b n w for 6 months. I never stopped! Once I found Acros Film Simulation that's all I shoot now with RAW backup. This video explains the b n w nuances very well.

[@Shunjut]

Glad to see the differences between all the major brands. I didn’t expect to see how much change is seen. Thank you for continuing to be curious in the B&W side of digital photography!

[@Roland314]

I love love love high contrast BW photography. Even those shots of Chris at his computer with the deep shadows on one side of his face are a delight. I like cinematography that isn't afraid of darkness. Interesting on how well Sony, Nikon, and Leica capture exactly the kind of rich detail I love in BW. Excellent work.

[@MarkThomas1]

Great video and comparison. Interesting. I shoot Olympus and have tweeked the Mono profile to add more punch. I also shoot Nikon FM2 with Ilford HP5 and hat works very well!! 😀

[@warpspeed9877]

I find foveon cameras have superb monochrome quality. My Sigma Quattro H delivers stunning quality when shooting monochrome.

[@classic.cameras]

Chris at the end should have been like "Oh buy my B&W presets" 🤣

[@ali_alami]

🤣🤣

[@thewaldfe9763]

😂

[@TheOldVeganDude]

Fujifilm addict here, but I do really like the Leica M11 too. I am curious to know can you do your own "recipes" with the other platforms like we have on Fujifilm?

[@artfrontgalleries1818]

Over the past 10 years, I have accumulated about 32TB of external hard drive space. I could really use a RAID set up. I will still shoot everything Adobe RBG, RAW and process it to B&W

[@ddsdss256]

Interesting, but if you'd buy a camera based on JPG B&W modes, you need new selection criteria (not a deal-breaker)! More importantly, SHOOT RAW and convert in post. DxO FilmPack (which includes many Fujifilm options and most of the "classics") as well as Nik film emulations rock (and Silver Efex Pro is simply the best way to create B&W images in the digital realm)! Also, any of these profiles could be achieved/improved in post (or even using in-camera adjustments in many cases). Of course, if you really want to shoot B&W (and not mess with film, which can get you the best results if you know what you're doing), shoot a monochrome-only camera (such as the Leica monochrom models you mentioned). Also, you can get great photos (color or B&W) in any lighting conditions and as you point out, the best profile depends on the scene (plus camera settings/filtration can have a huge effect). As a side note, the clouds in your test scene greatly affect the look, so it's hard to get an apples-to-apples.That said, in my experience, Lumix's L Monochrome D, and of course the new Leica Monochrome profile (I just got the G9M2 and I've yet to process any images) are great, but I only use them in an advisory capacity. One of the many advantages of mirrorless cameras is the ability to "pre-visualize" B&W prints without having to "think in B&W" (as we had to in the film/DSLR days) and that's the main use of B&W (or other) profiles--to produce a JPG reference image to guide RAW processing, nit produce a final image (in essence, letting someone else do your processing). JPG on a Hasselblad or Phase One (or any MF)?! Good to see you have a sense of humo(u)r!

[@dazhsh7109]

Leica and Nikon for me

[@henrikw377]

Panasonic's Mono.D is the best greyscale profile I've ever seen.

[@ductritran8637]

Leica Monochrom and Panasonic S1R .

[@shock_me]

This is why Pana's Real-time LUT is such a powerful feature. Can load any look into the camera and use it as a native colour profile (while still getting the untouched RAW).

[@clintjohnson5914]

Absolutely agree .. I think this opens up an entire new space for Panasonic users to create and exchange Luts. Also worth noting the Leica Monochrome profile on the G9II also has a great deal of built-in flexibility right on the screen.. I think that would have been worth a mention on their part.

[@KelvinSchwartzGrunlicht]

how is that different from any other custom picture style, whether there's a convenient software imp/exp feature or not? are those LUTs much more detailed than the standard contrast, sharpness, etc. parameters?

[@fredmuellerphotographer4532]

Leica and Nikon ... no surprise there ... when I learned to print ages ago I learned black was the foundation of a photograph

[@pault151]

OK, given that you are shooting the same shot in your various trials, it seems like a pretty minor task to look at the light curve in your histogram, and come up with a correction to tilt the lights and darks into the "optimum" curve, and apply in a batch to your shots with any of these cameras to convert the look to one of the others. Granted that if you are only shooting JPEGs that you might run out of room at the light and dark ends. But most of these cameras have multiple profiles which do basically this same task, and some can have the profile customized in camera by the user and saved as a preference.

[@youphototube]

You can apply the Nikon black and white colour profile to the raw image on import to Lightroom. So, the B&W image you see on your viewfinder is imported in RAW format in Lightroom. Or if you prefer, you can import it as a JPEG, but why would you. I can not do this with my Ricoh GR3x. I am stuck with the JPEG.

[@exploresouthwest]

I like this comparison. A fun side video that isn't a review. I'm happy Nikon has a good B&W engine. I really want to get a Zf and be able to switch it into BW mode and emulate going out and going some street photography with an old film camera. I think it's also worth mentioning that Lightroom can be setup to match it's RAW color profile with the one it has emulating the camera settings, so you can shoot a RAW while having the color set to Monochrome, and in Lightroom you have a monochrome image by default but still all the controls of editing a RAW. Might be good for something like the Sony where you can import the B&W, then recover the shadows a bit in post instead of them being discarded.

[@julianray]

Chris, you prove that what seems to be Black and White is not Absolutely Back and White. Great episode.

[@hawaiifiles]

Do one of these using older cameras. DSLR and point and shoot.

[@chirsd666]

I find that shooting in RAW and editing the black and white from a colour image in LR provides a lot more flexibility. JPG is CRP 😀

[@thomasphillips5850]

The Z8 takes it, 2nd up fujiXT-5 . Great video , very interesting the way the different systems handle monochrome. Thanks again.

[@ales_krejci]

Pitty that YT compression f*ck it up even at 4k, so its quite hard to evaluate shadows to black transition.

[@acrummey85]

I usually shoot raw+ with a tweaked monochrome jpeg on older 16MP Olympus cameras. I seldom have to go to the raw (unless I decide colour works better) and usually have enough leeway to get what I want with minor adjustments in post. I tried this with a Sony a6000 but found the contrast was too high and I had to resort to the raw files. Great video, lots of “drawma!”

[@KelvinSchwartzGrunlicht]

please share your mono settings, thanks, my default is: contrast +2 sharpness -2 yellow or red filter and I'm pushing the high/shadow curve to taste, the E-M10 II LCD seems good enough to assess the levels

[@thecaveofthedead]

I was very surprised by how great the Nikon Zf was just flipping the switch to the default b&w jpeg.

[@Dahrenhorst]

You missed the two color processor cameras with, in my opinion, the best b&w performance: The Olympus Pen-F, which has a completely different monochrome engine than the OMs, and can be customized to produce jpgs as you want them, and - this one you even mentioned at the end briefly - of course the Sigma Foveon cameras, which in my opinion have the best b&w performance of all cameras with color processors, on par with the cameras with dedicated monochrome processors, due to their unique processor technology.

[@1armbiker]

For those who are wondering, just tested my Zf and Z9 with the latest firmwares, the monochrome profiles are very very close if not identical.

[@ryantang8146]

I think that monochrome from Z8 is the same as the Zf and z9 with the latest firmware

[@jharrelphoto]

Nikon has some of the best monochrome images imo

[@richardbierman9856]

@@ryantang8146 There are more black and white profiles on the zf!

[@connor56347]

But they still didn’t test either of the 2 new B&W profiles that they premiered on the ZF

[@slampest]

Uga buga uga buga 🦍🦍 I have no idea why i made this comment. It has no meaning

[@NasuMeji]

have you ever explored the color filter simulations on the Fujifilm black and white modes?

[@pperentes]

I think something missed in this video was that the raw files can be brought into lightroom with the b&w profile applied then further tweaked if needed. Doesnt have to be jpeg only. If you import with camera settings, the raws apply whatever peofile is used in camera. Raw B&Ws can still be changed to color if needed.

[@viramati5831]

Looks like you just used the default settings but you can get a lot more detail in the shadows with Sony if you use their dynamic range settings and you can tweak contrast sharpness highlight and shadow settings and more. I also sometimes shoot in HEIF which actually gives you a file with more latitude than jpeg

[@kunstsein]

In the "results" section, you guys show an out-of-focus and overexposed portrait as an example for the Pentax K3iii, but in the Pentax section at 9:21 we get to see a very sharp and perfectly exposed portrait with great punchy contrast. Why is that?

[@JonInLondon]

Since Panasonic came up with L-Monochrome-D I tend to stick with that as I think I'll be happy. Maybe I'll do some more comparisons to see if there are situations where other choices would be better... but I do like LMD... Of course you can have much more fun in post, adding a simulated colour filter to the lens to e.g. separate shirt from background, plus endless film simulations and looks. (I did a double-figure number of really different BW versions of a Landscape for someone a while back, just to show you don't have to click on "greyscale" in your image editor and be done... (I prefer Franzis' Black and White Projects Pro for the infinite options, but others may prefer something simpler...) BTW are the Fuji Monochrome and Acros labels correct, e.g. for the camera shot?

[@valdiskrebs1670]

I really like the Pen-F for customized color and monochrome JPGs... easy to use graphical interface of color wheels and saturation curves.

[@ivardahl-larsen]

It is all very subjective and very much due to how you measure the light with the camera at hand. So honestly, what does it all tells us. That Chris has to make a living, as everyone else😂