Diesel: less complex, more createy TFMG:Straight up immersive engineering
@excavator_man6 ай бұрын
And that’s why I love it
@randomhandle1115 ай бұрын
The closer we get to GregTech the better
@ReeEmbrio5 ай бұрын
@@randomhandle111 NOT GREGTECH NEEEIIN
@randomhandle1115 ай бұрын
@@ReeEmbrio with every mod like this we just get closer and closer 😜
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@bully616 ай бұрын
I love the complexity of tfmg because the builds just seem so real and alive
@NPC969Ай бұрын
It also got electricity as well and many other blocks and fuels and engines Diesel generator have all diesel engines and nothing more
@aarav2766 ай бұрын
Would really recommend Create: Addon Compatibility to anyone using both of these addons together.
@mrnemo2046 ай бұрын
Will add
@Tombaysbot5 ай бұрын
Alright, this guy probably just saved my sanity over the horrible tfmg's pumpjacks Thank you, nett mann
@Tombaysbot5 ай бұрын
Ah, fuck it, doesn't work with tfmg distillators
@maozedong503521 күн бұрын
@@Tombaysbot pain
@Tombaysbot20 күн бұрын
@@maozedong5035 it does now
@danieloxor6 ай бұрын
They should really use forge tags for fluids. So they would be cross compatible, and also compatible with other mods like Ad Astra or Immersive Petroleum
@sonicsawblade6 ай бұрын
I believe the diesel generators mod has some compatibility with other mods, but not tfmg. You can really easily add tags to the fluids in forge and I did it to make these two mods compatible and also compatible with thermal expansion, just a simple script
@BerserkerGamez656 ай бұрын
@@sonicsawbladei would consider releasing that as a mod if you know how, it would make A LOT of people happy lol
@sonicsawblade6 ай бұрын
@@BerserkerGamez65I’ll post instructions to put in the script in this comment thread, but right now my computer is out of commission so that knowledge is locked in there 😂
@JinxBlitz6 ай бұрын
Can't wait @@sonicsawblade
@Djavidan176 ай бұрын
@@sonicsawbladeyeah let us know when you'll post it
@vulduv5 ай бұрын
1:24 "Adding a turbo to this diesel engine doesn't affect its power, but it does speed it up." That's literally the most backwards way that could have worked! A turbocharger works by compressing the air before it goes into the engine, giving it more air and thus more oxygen to burn fuel with. And creating more power as a result. But that doesn't significantly alter the maximum rpm of a diesel engine. As the reason why diesel engines have such low maximum rpm in real life, is because diesel itself burns really slowly. So at high rpms, the piston will literally move away from the combustion gases, faster than the combustion gases can burn and expand.
@AlohaXChicken275 ай бұрын
And since we have the rotational speed controller, the speed doesn’t really matter anyway, we just need more SU
@Typhoonator6 ай бұрын
The factory must grow is a great mod for the more complex packs that you can make, like the one that takes you through ages of tech. However, I'd say that the create diesel generators feel closer to the original intention of the create mod
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@JTC256 ай бұрын
For Create: Diesel Generator, you can apply a redstone signal to the engine as well to turn it off and save fuel.
@I_DONT_GFU_BOUT_USERNAMEАй бұрын
It gets bugged for now. The engine stops but the shaft keep turning. So until they fix it its uselless
@V1c._.6 ай бұрын
Both of these addons are perfect, one for the more complex systems enjoyer and one for the casual enjoyer, it's awesome
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@ActiveGamer30006 ай бұрын
for air intake, u can make 1x1 fans 2x2 fans and 3x3 fans. idk about how much su they take, but u only need power one of the fans instead of all of them. for create the factory must grow
@blueberry1c26 ай бұрын
The fans take 0su, they only need to spin
@ActiveGamer30006 ай бұрын
@@blueberry1c2 even better
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@bagness_6 ай бұрын
Powerful feeling, Seeing no views and 0 likes posted 23 seconds ago.
I use Diesel Generators. Tfmg over complicate thinks way too much. Looks cool in Creative and in mod showcases but diesel generators is so much more Suevival friendly.
@koocherry7936 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Personally I've always liked TFMG more. It feels way more immersive
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@foresthillwolf7998Ай бұрын
@hotheatwave01 can you stop saying that on every single reply?
@WinstonWhitetail6 ай бұрын
Both mods are pretty neat, tho the only gripe I have with TFMG is the weird choice of rpms. They're almost all this weird number that is tricky to use right off the bat and need a speed controller for a more precise control, whereas DG you have usable numbers where you dont necessarily need speed controllers. It's a nitpick for sure but that was always something that bothered me
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Right, would be better if they had like 64 or 128 rpm or something
@honkhonk80096 ай бұрын
TFMG gotta be ported to fabric. This mod is incredible.
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@Teacup442 ай бұрын
@@hotheatwave01 why are you spamming this
@theonefrombeyond84085 ай бұрын
I just use electric motors from Create crafts & addons, slap 10 of those bad boys and you are done and has the bonus of choosing the speed and the SU it gives increases with the speed. Goes nice with mekanism
@pantherosgaming19952 ай бұрын
Diesel Generators and TFMG do use OreDictionary so you can use mods that unify the two.
@BigHonkinGoose6 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this. Would you mind also looking into and comparing the Create electrical addons?
@PlutoNeptuneUranusSaturn5 ай бұрын
now tfmg has electricity and its acurate and what i mean by that is everything explodes
@youcansave15ormoreoncarins754 ай бұрын
@@PlutoNeptuneUranusSaturn combines both of the major create electrical mods too which is nice and has its own cables which plays nice with vs
@droson87126 ай бұрын
I've been looking for a video like this since I downloaded both and not much info about either.
@Lemake6 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks 😊
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@electro74356 ай бұрын
Diesel Generators is the obvious pick for me because it is the only one that works on fabric.
@Rip_Slayerhawk4 ай бұрын
It really depends on how much space do you need and things like that but I think diesel is better when you need to make compact things and tang is better for a lot of things not just powering like decorating and yeah but really is more for powering big stuff that doesn’t needs to move
@garyslayton83405 ай бұрын
TFMG doesnt work for me Every time i try and load my modlist with it the game crashes Im using 1.18.2 with the newest forge version
@Alex_Barbosa4 ай бұрын
I would love the complexity of TFMG, but all the extra resources generated might make my other buddies feustrated so ill probably have to go with the other one.
@annothernoobАй бұрын
When i get my device fixed i wanna test out one of these mods with trackwork to see if i can make a vehicle that can facillitate the majority of my needs but the only issue i have is deciding on if i want to pick the one with carbon emmissions for a more on theme look or the one that tajes up less space so i can actually fit it in the front of the van/truck thing
@annothernoobАй бұрын
Also i wonder if someone has made a cargo plane in VSkies yet, if i could fit a trackwork vehicle in a massive plane that would be cool
@NPC969Ай бұрын
Compact and low grade engines are good if you want a small and compact car to cover large distances
@phoriplutoriАй бұрын
Diesel: simple create oils Tfmg: advanced create x immersive engineering
@deitznuts71332 ай бұрын
i prefer create desil, bc it has fabric support
@leseloewe3801Ай бұрын
Same
@leseloewe3801Ай бұрын
All though I use a Modpack Launcher, I will make A Forge Modpack and put my existing ones from fabric (that support Forge) into that Modpack
12 күн бұрын
@@leseloewe3801 why would you use Forge if Fabric works? IIUC Fabric has better performance.
@cherrypopscile33854 ай бұрын
I really like how TFMG, so I've had that choice made for me
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@honkhonk80096 ай бұрын
Always wished for a mix between Immersive Petroleum and create lol
@diskovod15896 ай бұрын
For me it seems that engines from both mods suck in SU output comparing to simple steam engines from basic Create, but need much more work to run them.
@ok104694 ай бұрын
Idk man diesel is super easy lol you just find a chunk with oil and you get thousands of buckets. They aren't exactly a steam engine alternative, they are just extremely compact and easy to install on moving contraptions. Works wonders with clockwork since a single bucket can last an extremely long time.
@Snappyse-CEO-of-Samsung6 ай бұрын
honestly good video quality
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@inquisitorkobold60373 ай бұрын
TFMG has a notable issue where the recipe for the heavy plate overlaps the recipe for steel sheets, making it inadvertently incompatible with any addon that connects with Create: Alloyed.
@バンシアの5 ай бұрын
i forgot which mod adds the liquid crude oil in underground, which makes mining bit annoying
@hylobateslar41516 ай бұрын
I prefer create diesel generators. TFMG is high quality but its just a bit too in-depth for me.
@neves50836 ай бұрын
sadly there is no TFMG for fabric :( edit: How do i use diesel generators canisters and barrels? idk how to pump things into it XD
@Ajokeiguess6 ай бұрын
Just connect a pipe to the top and use a pump to pump it in from a tank.
@neves50836 ай бұрын
@@Ajokeiguess didn't work
@Ajokeiguess6 ай бұрын
@@neves5083 is your pump working the right way? And if you place a pipe on top of the canister and another one next to that pipe does the pipe still turn into the canister? If not I think something is wrong on your end, it works just fine for me.
@neves50836 ай бұрын
@@Ajokeiguess You're right the pipes didin't change direction. Idk what could be wrong on my end, everything works fine but that part. Maybe an bug on the Fabric version?
@chupacabra23113 ай бұрын
Is TFMG survival friendly? Seems like a hassle to get and build all of that stuff survival, but it's definitely the more fun mod.
@vikovitch4 ай бұрын
i neglectedly added both mods to my server, this may become a minor problem when i want to america the oil
@fcsj28Ай бұрын
I like to use diesel generators engine with the TFMG fuels
@Cell7806 ай бұрын
we making tanks with this one
@dragonlord667727 күн бұрын
I use both but pretty much exclusively use diesel and only use TFMG for the plastic and other cool stuff it adds since it’s so much worse in comparison like the creator needs to make it better then diesel since it’s so much harder
@codyprodutions86232 ай бұрын
I use factory must grow for the pipes and stuff. If I could get that stuff without the mod than I probably would get rid of it.
@albhis5 ай бұрын
CDiesel Generators actually can be compatible with tfmg fuels since it's data driven! Fluid tags and such!
@KwizzleHazzizle5 ай бұрын
Would the mod devs have to set this up or can players edit a config file or something?
@albhis5 ай бұрын
@@KwizzleHazzizle Oh sorry! Didn't get a notif outside of Gmail for this. Data driven means it's Datapack work, so it *can* be done by anyone or even publicly uploaded to Mod sites (curseforge/modrinth/etc.) The mod itself doesn't have tfmg's fluids tagged in its jar, so it would have to be an external datapack. A lot about the mod can be tweaked with its tags however, so there's a lot of options available with it.
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@japonescondaniel24525 ай бұрын
diesel generetors is compatible with immersive petrolium (the addon from immersive engeniering) and the petrolium are compatible between them and you can use the diesel and biedisel ande gasoline from the immersive petrolium on diesel generetor, but with create the factory must grow: yo can not
@senioy6 ай бұрын
is oil infinite in any of those mods once u set up a pump?
@Lauchaextravagante6 ай бұрын
I really want to have Diesel Generators but with the waste management!! i wanna feel like i'm polluting the environment just to squeeze out a few more SU
@arthreasdarandar10173 ай бұрын
Try the Destroy Addon for Create, adds plastics and chemicals
@Lauchaextravagante3 ай бұрын
@@arthreasdarandar1017 I did! Didn’t like it. I could try my hand at using crafttweaker to make the recipes more engaging though
@kakyoinpepsi56942 ай бұрын
Idk if pollution of the realms exists for the versions these addons are on, but if so you can install that and hopefully there would be cross-compatibility
@Lauchaextravagante2 ай бұрын
@@kakyoinpepsi5694 i mean i want to feel like i'm polluting the environment, but keep doing it. pollution of the realms forces you to take care or you die at some point. i imagine i could instead make a mod that makes certain processes fill the environment with like, acid rain, soot, and even water pollution that you can either manage or just- ignore for the sake of industry
@CERISTHEDEV6 ай бұрын
Bruh i thought create could not get more confusing Then i discovered addons like Tfmg, create cc, and a mod that i forgot the name but it adds theoretical physics to create
@largiegorgle6 ай бұрын
Valkyrien Skies: Clockwork and Create: interactive are the physics based create mod add ons, clockwork allows you to build vehicles and interactive makes create contraptions(the parts of a machine you glue together and attach to a bearing to move) have physics, so they don’t go through walls and collide with one another. Edit: interactive also makes train derailment have physics, so trains will actually “derail” fully off the track rather than having their usual fixed derailment animation
@jeqlyz33316 ай бұрын
Thank you, I've been needing this video lmao
@enderpumpkin1324 күн бұрын
I prefer tmfg because the engines and other stuff feel more refined.
@MortisGod_FS4 ай бұрын
title: Me: New age boiler heaters
@theallknowingbirb76526 ай бұрын
Diesel Generators likes to bug out normal create and delete items from the game. Also I cant ever get the pumpjack working no matter what i try.
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Ah, so diesel generators bugging out create components is a known issuer then? Have you checked out my video on diesel generators? I have a guide on building pumpjacks (there's an item that you need to /give yourself in creative called the pumpjack hole or something like that.)
@a.makine3 ай бұрын
TFMG is more realistic and detailed. I'm prefering it!
@scottthesmartape91516 ай бұрын
Yo what if you like made whiplashes/ivans artillery drones from iron man 2 maybe with computercraft if you can?
@phrome.p6 ай бұрын
awesome video man!
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@naberville33055 ай бұрын
I'm not certain why one would go away from the normal create steam engines tbh.
@thinkdunson4 ай бұрын
you say that TFMG doesn't have renewable fuels, but do you mean that in the real world sense? because in the game, i'm pretty sure the oil deposits are infinite.
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@masonwidener14706 ай бұрын
Has anyone else had trouble getting TFMG to work in 1.18.2? Is there a fix?
@foodiesnews71026 ай бұрын
Just use appropriate version of create
@Cosmoneer273 ай бұрын
can i use both these?
@Tombaysbot5 ай бұрын
The saddest thing about those two is that you can use crude oil from tfmg in dg's distillation tank, but you can't do the inverse. So you can't use crude oil from dg in tfmg distillator. I want it to be compatible because tfmg's pumpjacks are HORRIBLE. they look AWFUL: these strings hanging from them are not pleasing at all. On my modpack i even replaced them both with oreexcavation's liquid extractors, extracting tfmg oil in limited amount.
@noelcouturier91754 ай бұрын
Thier are problems with the mod not survival friendly if you want to make oil pump you need steel witch ot make stell you need serten blocks that are not craftibel.
@kakyoinpepsi56942 ай бұрын
Lest there is an explicit add on to do so, multiblocks don’t show up in recipe browsing mods. Thus you just have to rely on guessing the components, using pondering or googling it.
@Jacob-yg7lz6 ай бұрын
One thing that's bad about TFMG is that it's not compatible with new versions of Create.
@L129A26 ай бұрын
I use both of these mods
@Bucatini986 ай бұрын
I love tfmg
@ItsAsteri_6 ай бұрын
Yo, i think you made a mistake. The diesel engine from diesel generators produces only 3k su, modular engines only produce 4k su.
@justachickenboi6 ай бұрын
the su generated differentiates between different fuel types
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Oh man, I just checked, you're right. I don't know why but the stressometers are giving the wrong reading...
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
He's right though I just checked, I don't know what happened with the stressometers
@cortinastone5 ай бұрын
I put around 150ish mods so i just use both
@pufferfish91666 ай бұрын
Compare crafts and additions and new age next please!
@poly18106 ай бұрын
only really clicked on this video to check out the comments, and damn they all love tfmg
@poly18106 ай бұрын
a lot of people i know utterly despise tfmg due to various reasons, them being: - textures, barely fitting in create - unnecessary levels of complexity - plastic?? cast iron?? steel?? - twelve different oil outputs, only just to fuel another engine and no other uses (content bloat) - making plastic in an open topped basin - buggy oil distillery that takes forever to figure out how to set up - non create styled multiblocks, pumpjack doesnt work unless built very specifically - fluid air?? fluid exhaust?? can simply just send it out the end of an open pipe rather than using an exhaust pipe - doesnt use tags, isnt compatible with other mods, is a nightmare to integrate into proper modpacks, too much work for what its worth - and several more i could list off if i take a moment to do it, tho i cant rember too well as i just woke up c:dg also isnt perfect, but its a lot better than c:tfmg, the major gripes of c:dg being: - singleblock combustion engines?? for similar SU to steam engine tier?? (for good SU producers, it should have more multiblock setup, similar to that of steam engine)
@basic67355 ай бұрын
@@poly1810 Do you do this for every comparison video?
@poly18105 ай бұрын
no, only comparison videos of really bad mods and there actually semidecent counterparts
@basic67355 ай бұрын
@@poly1810 They definitely aren't "bad", it seems you and the people you know (I'm assuming your friends) are just overly critical and opinionated. The only valid criticisms you stated here is TFMG's compatibility. Besides that, you're kinda just judging the mod based of YOUR and "the people you know" personal tastes. For example, you state "- plastic?? cast iron?? steel??" As if its questionable for the add-on with the express purpose of being a dieselpunk (A more modern, '50s industrialist aesthetic) add-on mod to add modern materials. Or "non-create styled multiblocks", like what is that even supposed to mean? Not to mention it's an active WIP, ofc it's gonna have balance issues, it's gonna have missing content, it's because it isn't even done I could go on, but you get the point Oh, and air is a fluid IRL. What you mean to say is liquid air. I agree that pipe opening should function as an exhaust though, with the exhaust block being decorative or smth
@Konomi_io4 ай бұрын
@@poly1810 idk i kinda like the textures, and the complexity is totally a personal thing. i had the opposite impression, tfmg looked more interesting because it doesnt dumb the processing down so much that its boring (i see that in a lot of other addons, to the point where it can feel like there isnt much variety between them) the rest seem to be minor nitpicks or things that could be easily fix, the most valid point there is the incompatibility. my own biggest gripe is unavailability for fabric tbh
@vojta-1316 ай бұрын
Wher is valkirs skis 1.21
@feodrich4 ай бұрын
I wanna love TFMG, except the crude oil deposits are essentially next to impossible to find, it's scanners basically don't work at all and send you to completely random directions which never actually have any oil at them. Half it's content can't use oil from other similar mods even when using the "Addon Compatibility" mod. It's a shame because if it wasn't next to impossible to find these things it would be one of the greatest create addons of all time, or even one of the best mods on it's own ever. As it is though, it's so hard to find the oil deposits it's essentially next to impossible to actually use the mod, it's unplayable. It's a shame too because this one bottleneck is the only problem.
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@thinkdunson4 ай бұрын
these comparisons are incomplete... you're not taking into account the entire supply chain when calculating the final output. i want to see, if the entire supply chain was powered by the engines, what is the output.
@maincraftcool3 ай бұрын
Wow cool
@kamilstenzel39296 ай бұрын
TL;DR TFMG is more realistic but requires more work
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
What do you mean realistic if meshing is not good
@ScubaMiner253 ай бұрын
@@hotheatwave01bro is really hell bent on copying and pasting his comment everywhere
@dang-x3n0t1ct6 ай бұрын
Which create addons have nuclear reactors?
@janoszow77936 ай бұрын
there's one in create: New age
@dwr10013 ай бұрын
Meanwhile me using both together
@MarcBossYT6 ай бұрын
Nice
@someoneidk81606 ай бұрын
so TFMG is just a more realistic. And better...
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
The problem with tfmg is that the imput and output of the pipes do not look like they're pumping in or pulling out stuff since they do not mesh well with the engine itself, making it look like it's pulling from air.
@hotheatwave013 ай бұрын
It ain't realistic if the pumps don't mesh well with the engine.
@jackjackjam3s6 ай бұрын
This looks like roblox industrialist game
@mrfancyshmancy3 ай бұрын
Immersive seems to be kinda obsolete these days. Most 1.16+ packs have create so why would they use ie if this already is compatible. Buuuttt..... immersive still looks better
@reihanboo6 ай бұрын
just play gregtech holy
@lewkot18976 ай бұрын
But... level 9 steam engines are just better... While the mods are interesting, I wouldn't bother with refining oil just to get less SU than 1 or 2 steam engines...
@zuzoscorner4 ай бұрын
TFMG , is way to complicated to the point of being tedium. No Gregtech like mods are not a good thing -__
@KiviNik4 ай бұрын
no Fabric, so Create: New Age is better
@KingKaden26 ай бұрын
HI!!!
@KwizzleHazzizle6 ай бұрын
Hi!
@howdenking4 ай бұрын
"Wich one is right for you?" > sees TFMG is only available on forge, immediately disqualifying it from my list :kek:
@rubbegameing53706 ай бұрын
TFMG is only on Forge (cringe)
@ok104694 ай бұрын
I usually fabric too but you gotta use forge with create you are actively limiting yourself otherwise