Which DC Characters Would be Omega Level?

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@williebeauford8677
@williebeauford8677 3 ай бұрын
He can unleash all the nuclear weapons on the planet with a single thought, cyborg.
@jason15212
@jason15212 3 ай бұрын
Superman Flash (Barry and Wally.. really all of them) Supergirl Wonder Woman Captain Atom Icon Dr Fate Raven Martian Manhunter Dr. Manhattan Aquaman Darkseid Brainiac Anti-Monitor Trigon Reverse Flash Etc… there a lot of them
@Plamkton
@Plamkton 3 ай бұрын
Cyborg Firestorm Captain comet John Constantine Hank henshaw Red tornado Maxwell lord A strech could be Hal jordan for willpower but thats also the ring.
@melonfox17
@melonfox17 3 ай бұрын
Zatanna !
@Heavypunch23
@Heavypunch23 3 ай бұрын
What is wonder woman omega lvl in? Or aquaman
@jason15212
@jason15212 3 ай бұрын
@@Heavypunch23 are you for real?
@jason15212
@jason15212 3 ай бұрын
@@Heavypunch23 Wonder Woman is an equal to Superman in every sense of the word. Aquaman not only is on par in strength speed durability etc..with the other top tiers of the JL but his powers specifically having control over the entire ocean if he wanted to he could turn that 25% of earths surface that is land into 0% . In or near ocean he’s even more of problem. He’s more of a threat to the planet than 98% of the JL .
@browndestroyer3016
@browndestroyer3016 3 ай бұрын
Even base level Superman can be omega level. If Superman realised his powers and become unhinged!!
@stormhawk31
@stormhawk31 3 ай бұрын
Superman is MUCH more powerful than them.
@darrylblackshear710
@darrylblackshear710 3 ай бұрын
Give Superman enough solar energy and there is no limit to what he can do.
@saber822
@saber822 3 ай бұрын
The Specte and Dr. Manhattan would be beyond omega level just like Franklin Richards
@parkersmith7478
@parkersmith7478 3 ай бұрын
I think what the Marvel wiki was trying to say about Jean Grey was, if a character has multiple abilities only 1 of them needs to be omega level for them to qualify. So if a character has a lot of really strong abilities (like superman) that doesn't mean they aren't omega level, it just means they have a lot abilities that are at an omega level.
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
That would make sense. So if you have at least one power at a max or beyond you make the cut to be an Omega. If you have multiple powers at a max or beyond you almost break the scale.
@diamantemrobinson
@diamantemrobinson 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's saying mutants can have multiple powers but it's usually their dominant power that reaches omega level. Jean is omega level telepatch because there's no upper limit to her telepathy however at the time her telekinesis did have one unlike Exodus who is an omega level telekinetic who's also telepathic as well. However his telepathy is far weaker than his telekinesis.
@JamesJohnson-lu5kk
@JamesJohnson-lu5kk 3 ай бұрын
Beyond omega level
@henrygambles3652
@henrygambles3652 3 ай бұрын
I remember hearing Omega Level in Marvel to clarify means you’re able to affect a planet, so technically a lot of these characters would be beyond Omega Level but great video!
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 3 ай бұрын
If plot armor counts, Batman could be omega level character lol
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
Very true 😂 some of the stuff he's done before is definitely not that of a human
@dduuhdeap7732
@dduuhdeap7732 3 ай бұрын
@@tyrellmultimedia he’s called Batman not normal man
@operatorsteff663
@operatorsteff663 3 ай бұрын
Man: ham city
@coltonclark6373
@coltonclark6373 3 ай бұрын
Batman who laughs?
@koleszgdanska7149
@koleszgdanska7149 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, he beats Superman everytime it's crazy
@codeblack423
@codeblack423 3 ай бұрын
This needs to be a series on this channel
@jeremymorris345
@jeremymorris345 3 ай бұрын
Omega Level has always been weird to me. Sometimes it's people who are threats to planet, which is most Marvel characters anyway. But then other times it's people with God like Universe ending power.
@LucianPosey
@LucianPosey 3 ай бұрын
God level beings are beyond omega level , planet Affecting beings are just Omega level.
@wadegittleson1317
@wadegittleson1317 3 ай бұрын
I think green lantern Hal Jordan would also make this list, definitely based on his highest showings
@itztrippy9436
@itztrippy9436 3 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on Black Lightning?! I wish he was more loved! So much story potential
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 3 ай бұрын
I was wondering, can mxyzptlk also be an omega character? I mean, he’s a reality bender.
@robsenzig5720
@robsenzig5720 3 ай бұрын
I think that Captain Atom and possibly Firestorm could be considered as possibly being omeg level
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 3 ай бұрын
You were thinking along the same lines as me.
@kzoc1797
@kzoc1797 3 ай бұрын
@@UnexpectedWonder same
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 3 ай бұрын
@@kzoc1797 Captain Atom fits perfectly with how Marvel works and its Origin as well in its Era. Some of the X-Men have his type of Powers but not to his extent.
@VainVVS
@VainVVS 2 ай бұрын
My new favorite channel
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 2 ай бұрын
Ayyee thank you! Glad to have you here!
@user-jb7ru4nb8b
@user-jb7ru4nb8b 3 ай бұрын
Marvel- 🌞The Sentry 🪺Blue Marvel 🔥Ikaris 🪐Silver Surfer 🏄‍♂️ ✨The Runner 🏃‍♂️ 🩸Knull 🕳️Gorr 🌑The Shroud E.T.C.
@nintendofan1625
@nintendofan1625 3 ай бұрын
Def need Zatanna on this list
@stormhawk31
@stormhawk31 3 ай бұрын
Thing is, Superman has a LOT more powers than just his standard power set. While it's true that, physically speaking, he is far beyond normal human level even without the sun, the sun activates his REAL power, which is psionics - ALL kinds of psionics. The bulk of his strength, speed, and durability are telekinetic, his flight is telekinetic, his heat vision is telekinetic/pyrokinetic, his super breath is aerokinetic/cryokinetic, his telescopic and microscopic vision and super hearing are essentially a form of "remote viewing"/ESP, and he has SO many other powers that we rarely see, but that DC occasionally hints at (full telekinesis, telepathy, energy manipulation, full control of his physiology, force fields, etc.). Superman is crazy, absurdly powerful - really, he's on par with guys like Darkseid and Highfather, and potentially even more powerful, because he can ALSO absorb and use magic the way he does sunlight, though he doesn't usually do it (but he has in the past).
@bman980
@bman980 3 ай бұрын
Would beast boy be omega level. Like how he can turn into starow
@spookynigga3112
@spookynigga3112 3 ай бұрын
literaly everyone in Dc would be a omega level from the S tier character straight to the C tier character.
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
His connection to the Red is definitely powerful.
@jacksonbone8140
@jacksonbone8140 3 ай бұрын
I really like this idea I feel like he totally would be
@shawnboahene5231
@shawnboahene5231 3 ай бұрын
Possibly
@Heavypunch23
@Heavypunch23 3 ай бұрын
He has limits that’s why he isn’t, only when you don’t have limits is it omega lvl
@shawnboahene5231
@shawnboahene5231 3 ай бұрын
I think the problem is a lot of cosmic beings and aliens are on this list. If that were so with marvel, silver surfer would be an omega lvl mutant too. Perhaps confining it to meta humans would be better
@mercuryman1250
@mercuryman1250 3 ай бұрын
Captain atom, Silver age Earth-One superman, Superboy-prime, dr Manhattan, doctor Fate and definitely Volthoom and dc version of God and archangel michael.
@OVERVOID_123
@OVERVOID_123 3 ай бұрын
W list💪
@michaelpasalic2380
@michaelpasalic2380 2 ай бұрын
Great take on these Omega Level beings! We need more Dr. Fate, but let's not do an origin story.... It's too bad we only got a taste of him in Black Adam, but he was one of the saving factors in that movie, and we need more from that character.
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 2 ай бұрын
That movie is really not good... but it's a guilty pleasure movie for me lol. However, all the costumes in it are amazing!
@7mileaj257
@7mileaj257 3 ай бұрын
Homestly firestorm can be a Omega level threat in marvel
@antonioterry5080
@antonioterry5080 3 ай бұрын
Potentially vixen,zattanna,meta morpho,dr polaris,mordru etc.
@0rangecray0n
@0rangecray0n 3 ай бұрын
I would add ivy or swamp thing
@eashanpatel1799
@eashanpatel1799 Ай бұрын
I feel like Plastic Man would also apply here. He's not as physically powerful as the people on this list, but he can stretch and shapeshift to no bounds and he can't really die. If you freeze him, shatter him, and scatter the pieces, he can just reassimilate himself once those pieces thaw out.
@CJS-zc3nx
@CJS-zc3nx 3 ай бұрын
what about the Phantom Stranger?
@yendezz6019
@yendezz6019 3 ай бұрын
W video idea
@codeblack423
@codeblack423 3 ай бұрын
Thanks it was my idea
@stormhawk31
@stormhawk31 3 ай бұрын
Wally IS canonically faster than Barry, and also has a wider array of capabilities than Barry. Barry, however, is The Fastest Man in the Marvel Universe. You read that right. 😂 After Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barry didn't actually die. He crossed over into the Marvel Universe where he ended up racing all of Marvel's speedsters and won - EASILY. After that, he somehow ended up back in the speed force, and eventually returned to the DC Universe. So, Barry may not be faster than Wally, but he's faster than EVERYONE in Marvel. 😂
@terrellinc22
@terrellinc22 3 ай бұрын
Zatanna, Constantine, Firestorm, Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy, Monel, White Witch, Beast Boy(once he wrks on his stamina - he should be able to turn into a version of a kryptonian dinosaur), Vixen, Animal Man, (Donna Troy - IF IF IF they revisit the Titans of Myth era - and correctly establish and showcase her powerset) Maybe Weather Wizard, The Egyptian avatar that is married to Black Atom)
@nanazarkua8345
@nanazarkua8345 3 ай бұрын
What Are Your Thoughts On The Legion Of Doom
@WerewolfBiTwilight5886
@WerewolfBiTwilight5886 3 ай бұрын
Here are my DC Omega Level candidates: Hal Jordan GL Kyle Rayner WL Firestorm Swamp Thing Zatanna Enchantress Despero Lobo Eclipso Larfleeze Emotional Entities Nekron Trigon Mordru Reverse Flash Solomon Grundy Alan Scott GL Phantom Stranger Amazo Ares Brainiac Starro Monitor and Anti-Monitor
@acrsclspdrcls1365
@acrsclspdrcls1365 3 ай бұрын
I like all these choices.
@henrygambles3652
@henrygambles3652 3 ай бұрын
Wally West and Barry Allen
@WerewolfBiTwilight5886
@WerewolfBiTwilight5886 3 ай бұрын
@@henrygambles3652 He already reviewed them in the video, this is my list for those whom HAVEN’T been mentioned
@thatoneginger6480
@thatoneginger6480 3 ай бұрын
But isn’t Grundy dead though? Doesn’t make him a mutant
@WerewolfBiTwilight5886
@WerewolfBiTwilight5886 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneginger6480 2 things I need to correct on that statement: 1. Grundy is Undead (like a Zombie, Mummy, or Vampire) and is the avatar of Decay/The Gray (similar to Swamp Thing, but connects to all fungal life instead of plant life) 2. This list and video are talking about characters that are Omega Level Threats, not mutants from MARVEL
@etonblakerussell
@etonblakerussell Ай бұрын
Wally ran across the universe quicker than instant teleportation.
@landywilson
@landywilson 3 ай бұрын
Correction on the Flash. Wally outran instant teleportation, not Barry.
@CalebsCaveofCollectibles
@CalebsCaveofCollectibles 3 ай бұрын
I think you also have to include the best of the Green Lanterns. They are only limited by their conscious thought, and as we can see by John Stewart's recent ascension, they can be God-like beings.
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
Very true. The emotional spectrum is supposed to one of the most powerful properties of the universe.
@Beriorn
@Beriorn Ай бұрын
Beast Boy can turn himself into sapient alien lifeforms as well as artificial lifeforms. So yes, he could turn himself into a Doomsday. Or a Gar-dian of the Universe. Or Gar-seid.
@elusivent
@elusivent 3 ай бұрын
Im just curious, i know this is about DC but would the hulk be considered an omega leveled threat? Since you mentioned doomsday
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 3 ай бұрын
Characters like Doomsday and the Hulk can be easily defeated if their opponents used their powers correctly instead of serving some plot. They can be easily teleported into space or punched into orbit. I hate when Doomsday shows up. Characters have to fight like morons to make him a threat.
@Heavypunch23
@Heavypunch23 3 ай бұрын
@@christianrapper5hulk can return from orbit, he’s not usually that dumb
@BlackKingArmory
@BlackKingArmory 3 ай бұрын
There is a tier above omega level its called Beyond Omega leevel mutants and thats where people like Jean, Magento, Drawin, Scarlett Witch and a few others reside in. Also Marvel scaling is on the same level if not higher than DC's at some points.
@mrexpose2790
@mrexpose2790 3 ай бұрын
DC’s characters are more OP than marvel’s characters
@Plamkton
@Plamkton 3 ай бұрын
I think the beyond omegas are Nate grey(psionics) Franklin richards(reality warping) Vulcan(energy manipulation) and Mr M(matter manipulation) Least from the most recent lore I could find.
@Heavypunch23
@Heavypunch23 3 ай бұрын
@@mrexpose2790no they aren’t, it’s comics, it’s pretty even from rock lvl to beyond time and space
@KamenRider1
@KamenRider1 3 ай бұрын
What about Kyle Rayner as Ion?
@sageoverheaven
@sageoverheaven 3 ай бұрын
Kyle Rayner as a Green Lantern is omega level lmao.
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 3 ай бұрын
Any green lantern is omega level.
@Lordmewtwo151
@Lordmewtwo151 3 ай бұрын
10:00 Where's Bart Allen?
@nkosithimtiyane7491
@nkosithimtiyane7491 3 ай бұрын
Swamp thing.
@georgehanratty7253
@georgehanratty7253 3 ай бұрын
Kite man for sure
@kzoc1797
@kzoc1797 3 ай бұрын
Firestorm problebly qualifys, he can literally create anything, has incredible intelligence, and more.
@ryanjstannard
@ryanjstannard 2 ай бұрын
Some other characters I would consider Omega Level: Zatanna Swamp Thing Poison Ivy Enchantress Killer Frost Doctor Light Sandman
@Lordmewtwo151
@Lordmewtwo151 3 ай бұрын
2:51 Shouldn't Darkseid technically be an "honorable mention" for the same reason as Dr. Manhattan and Spectre? 3:05 I see that you've addressed that point.
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
When editing it though I did think to my self that he should have probably just been an honourable mention because all "gods" would simply be omega level.
@richardlegrand4697
@richardlegrand4697 3 ай бұрын
Sandman and the endless have entered the chat
@tragedystrixesagain
@tragedystrixesagain 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned durability a couple times - what about plastic man?
@jaywalk65
@jaywalk65 3 ай бұрын
I know that you don’t like him very much, so I understand why you didn’t add him to the list, but Aquaman is definitely on the same tier as Diana. his strength and durability rival hers, plus he can control the weather globally; depending on interpretation he can even control water itself. he could destroy humanity in an afternoon if he felt like it
@codeblack423
@codeblack423 3 ай бұрын
Here some characters that I think could be omega level Black lightning Starfire zatanna Supergirl circe poison ivy Nekron Animal Man Star Sapphire Black Hand urzkartaga White Lantern Blackfire Queen of Fables miss Martian Cottus The Wizard Aquaman
@iggywiggy4858
@iggywiggy4858 3 ай бұрын
New question, who would be omega level in the marvel universe that’s NOT a mutant?
@Demman01
@Demman01 3 ай бұрын
If Storm, Magneto, Iceman are all omega level mutants then DC should have abundant of them: Flash Superman Green Lantern Wonder Woman Martian Manhunter Shazam Almost all the Justice League members are Omega level
@sageoverheaven
@sageoverheaven 3 ай бұрын
Justice_League!Batman too, considering some of the nutty stuff he can pull off.
@Demman01
@Demman01 3 ай бұрын
@@sageoverheaven I’m not counting plot armor😂
@axelthouin4389
@axelthouin4389 3 ай бұрын
so in this catégorie I would put : -Zatanna -Swamp Thing -Etrigan/Jason Blood -fantome Stranger -animal man -Vixen with her connection with the red -beast boy with the same reason of Vixen/animal man -blood orquider -Anthone Arkhan -poison ivy with the green -"the white lantern" stade -aquaman with the space sea powers? -metamorpho -ragman is a maybe -boster gold maybe? -blue beetle (Ralme) is a maybe with the potemtial of his armure -Trigon -Mongul? -Lobo? -Parasite? -captain atom -cyborg with his technologie and the new god mother box -Grey the dauther of Darkseid -Lady Blaze? -Lord satanus? -Glarion the witch chield? -maybe starfiler? -Orion -Hight father -Solomon Grundi? -filer storm -floricman with the green -blue devil? -the kryptonians and krypto -bizaro -the guy flom "the autority" who can talk with citys -Mister Majestic -Zoom -black Alice -the "sandman universe" characteres -maybe plastic man? -géoforce and terra? -pandora? -andrew Bennett/I vampire? -rifter? -dead man? -Constantine with his bad luck (joking)
@codeblack423
@codeblack423 3 ай бұрын
If a Character needs a weapon or a magical object to enhance their power they don't qualify as omega level if that's the case iron man would be consider an omega level character but his abilities come from his armor
@axelthouin4389
@axelthouin4389 3 ай бұрын
@@codeblack423 true, well there not "omega level no mutant" in Marvels
@Tboobt8100
@Tboobt8100 3 ай бұрын
What about antimonitor
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
Yes he's Omega for sure
@cosmicreader1312
@cosmicreader1312 3 ай бұрын
Superman one Million can definitely be perceived as an omega level Meta Human
@mikez9019
@mikez9019 3 ай бұрын
I’d argue Superman’s omega level power is his solar absorption. Doesn’t have a limit and the more he absorbs the stronger he is 🤓
@Daque8
@Daque8 3 ай бұрын
With this list being so recent why is Green Lantern John Stewart not on the list he is said to be a ascending being
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
To be honest I haven't read much of the lastest continuity so I had no idea what's happening with him.
@0rangecray0n
@0rangecray0n 3 ай бұрын
Best DC related content out. if you Branch out we will watch. we are starving for content.
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
Haha thanks man, glad to have your support!
@hectorthewizard
@hectorthewizard 3 ай бұрын
Dc dark wonder. Dark phoenix Wonder Woman. Could you expand on that pls it’s something I didn’t know I needed lol
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
Oh ya Witchmarked Wonder Woman? I'll see what I can do 👍🏼
@MrSpitfire2008
@MrSpitfire2008 3 ай бұрын
Constantine without a doubt
@metacat3106
@metacat3106 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Superman and Doomsday are classic examples of this, Superman's powers are enhanced by the light of the sun, and scales off of how much energy he has absorbed, so he can scale infinitely with how much he absorbs as long as there's no limit to how much he can absorb. And Doomsday just keeps mutating to become stronger and as far as we know can mutate infinitely. So each of those powersets have no clear limits.
@samoliver2021
@samoliver2021 3 ай бұрын
I think the Entities of the Emotional Spectrum deserve to be Omega level. Also including the Anti Monitor and Nekron.
@LostRose08
@LostRose08 3 ай бұрын
Lobo The Shade Black Lightning Plastic Man Power Girl Icon Captain Atom Cyborg Miss Martian The Phantom Stranger vixen Static killer frost Solomon Grundy John Constantine Mera Doctor light (kimiyo hoshi) Jade Mister Mxyzptlk Metron Metamorpho Anti-Monitor The Batman Who Laughs Nubia Eclipso Orion
@guardiantree8879
@guardiantree8879 3 ай бұрын
I’d be curious about a part two where you don’t count aliens or magic. Speedsters would still qualify, not sure who else. Plastic man?
@zachenderson3032
@zachenderson3032 Ай бұрын
Beastboy
@dorseyscott2114
@dorseyscott2114 3 ай бұрын
All of em
@shadowflash2392
@shadowflash2392 Ай бұрын
i think constantine and aquaman could be omega level characters
@aidenray6214
@aidenray6214 3 ай бұрын
u forgot Mr Mxyzptlk
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
I just didn't add him because he's a 5th dimensional being
@Stanlos
@Stanlos 3 ай бұрын
If this is Pre-Flashturd, the DC bench is DEEEEEEEP. There are characters at standard who can pass gas whilst sleeping and obliterate so-called Omega Level. Afterward? With New Poopy-2 and Retread and the rest? The DCU is a sad shadow of its former self with everything being greatly diminished
@Thebigem
@Thebigem 3 ай бұрын
Arkham Batman?
@christopherballero866
@christopherballero866 3 ай бұрын
Even the Marvel Wiki has no clear definition for what counts as Omega. DC's power compared to Marvel's is absurd. Also Marvel has no kryptonite so in a fight Marvel has no chance. Every: Kryptonian, speedster, reality warper, god, perhaps experienced lantern user, or being that could legit compete with those guys are Omega level. Raven is pretty much a goddess too
@calvintetterton2614
@calvintetterton2614 3 ай бұрын
Marvel has no chance ? Ummm ... Dr strange, Jean grey Phoenix, hulk, thor , sentry, gladiator... plenty of marvel characters are more than capable of beating superman ... you just chose to make superman above being defeated ... but ok....
@user-zn6zh2xl9e
@user-zn6zh2xl9e 3 ай бұрын
Lobo has to be Omega level...He is too cool..
@kotobukiya70
@kotobukiya70 3 ай бұрын
Potentially more than Batman?!? What the hell are you talking about? Batman isn’t even in the same league as Superman!!! Batman is merely a human being with no powers at all. Find another example!!!!
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
Look across ALL comicbook history and tell me right now that Batman hasn't been constantly upscaled or extremely plot armoured, just so he can fight gods and multiversal beings 😂 That so called "human" has defeated Superman multiple times and others on his level.
@kotobukiya70
@kotobukiya70 3 ай бұрын
@@tyrellmultimedia It wasn’t Batman that defeated Superman. Superman defeated himself. I stand by what I said. I agree about the plot armor though. Plot armor is the only reason he even has a seat at the big table to begin with, much less hanging with powerhouses like Superman, Wonder Woman, Shazam, etc. 😂
@sixsevenseven7555
@sixsevenseven7555 3 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you picked Raven but not Trigon
@tyrellmultimedia
@tyrellmultimedia 3 ай бұрын
I thought of Trigon too much of a god, like a Dr. Manhattan or Spectre. You could say the same thing for Darkseid though. So pretty much all god like characters are omega level.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 3 ай бұрын
Raven is more powerful than trigon
@erzascarlet2577
@erzascarlet2577 3 ай бұрын
Batman is the Real Goat in DC. Not just he can beat Sups on daily basis as a regular human. He can beat Manhattan which he did steal as the Darkest Knight. So he is the strongest character in DC if he gets enough Prep Time. Sups is just a droplet in the ocean infront of Bruce.
@Falcun21
@Falcun21 3 ай бұрын
You neglect to mention that Supes allows Bats to beat him. Bats has admitted this, Supes has admitted this.
@erzascarlet2577
@erzascarlet2577 3 ай бұрын
@@Falcun21 u neglect to mention that Bats just holds back. Cause he has killed millions of Sups in the dark multiverse & also injected him with the doomsday virus. He always has contingency plans & we saw when he actually gets serious nothing in the DC multiverse can stop him except plot armour. & By the way sups & Bats didn't said that bats beat him everytime cause he holds back. It's cause he is that brilliant that he doesn't even need to use any superpower to beat him. The holding back wasn't a statement from Any of them, it's a writers way to justify Sups as the main guy of DC. Cause Bats can do way better then Sups without any superpower let alone the Plot Armour.
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