WHICH DIVISION EVERY CLUB IN ENGLAND BELONGS IN

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Matt SB

Matt SB

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@mattsb449
@mattsb449 Ай бұрын
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@ArnoldThompson-pp5
@ArnoldThompson-pp5 Ай бұрын
Matt, I would say this is the perfect premier league. Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Chelsea, Everton, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Spurs, West Brom, West Ham, Wolves.
@LegoStarWarsTheSkywalkerSaga56
@LegoStarWarsTheSkywalkerSaga56 Ай бұрын
Luton belong in the Premier League 😁🧡
@LegoStarWarsTheSkywalkerSaga56
@LegoStarWarsTheSkywalkerSaga56 Ай бұрын
Luton belong in THE PREMIER LEAGUE MATT 😢
@Thescousemanscout
@Thescousemanscout 16 күн бұрын
Brighton in the championship 😡🤬
@LegoStarWarsTheSkywalkerSaga56
@LegoStarWarsTheSkywalkerSaga56 16 күн бұрын
@@Thescousemanscout Luton are more of a fighting club with the big boys
@rosiechapman663
@rosiechapman663 Ай бұрын
Brave video 😅 I think that’s actually a pretty solid list COYH
@IICJZII
@IICJZII Ай бұрын
Anyone else just fast forward to see where this guy put their team and leave? 😂
@axolotlgamer615
@axolotlgamer615 Ай бұрын
yep and im not happy about it wycombe made championship and always mid table in league 1 but we are put in league 2? were the best team in buckinghamshire for gods sake
@JackDraws0902
@JackDraws0902 Ай бұрын
How do you know
@Blaakeyy
@Blaakeyy Ай бұрын
@@axolotlgamer615 "you'll never sing that"
@marcus_pedder
@marcus_pedder Ай бұрын
glad i did, back in the prem (Leeds)
@JackTuner-k2c
@JackTuner-k2c 2 күн бұрын
Yep, that’s what I did
@markhogan5905
@markhogan5905 Ай бұрын
This is pretty much accurate and a great assessment, and your research on history is second to none, there are a few I may possibly change but that would only be my opinion, excellent work well done 👏
@VioletNeill
@VioletNeill Ай бұрын
As a huddersfield fan i thank you for putting us in the championship and we won the first division 3 times in the 20s
@infrasleep
@infrasleep 26 күн бұрын
Huddersfield's league history took a huge nose dive 50 years after their title wins. Never out of the top two divisions;1972 they played in Division One, in 1975 they kicked off in Division Four and were stuck there 5 years (and returned later) and have been a yo yo side for decades. I would say Championship should be their minimum level though.
@GavHTFC
@GavHTFC 17 күн бұрын
@@infrasleep as a Huddersfield fan born this side of the 70s it's just completely alien to me that there was a time we were a dominant force!
@temporaryuseraccount0012
@temporaryuseraccount0012 Ай бұрын
Probably the first table ranking list I've seen that didn't rely on too much "recency bias." Most other KZbinrs and even so-called professional football pundits, often skew WAY too much towards recent memory of club's performances, rather than their traditional status within the respective English leagues. A very well-balanced list.
@Huayra21
@Huayra21 Ай бұрын
tbf I think it was a lot easier to win trophies back then because there were no “big6”. It’s so much harder to be successful in the last 20ish yrs and even maintaining top division football is a huge achievement. That’s why leicesters pl for example is massive. For me that’s more impressive than winning 2 top divisions in the 70s
@petef7323
@petef7323 Ай бұрын
Pretty much spot on pal. The likes of Bournemouth, and Brighton are pretty much punching way about their weight historically.
@temporaryuseraccount0012
@temporaryuseraccount0012 Ай бұрын
Yeah, for real. Which is absolutely no slur on those clubs. Quite the opposite, it's a testament to how well their current ownerships are running those clubs. But they are playing "leagues" above their traditional ranking within the football pyramid. It will be interesting to see just how long they can continue to maintain that overachievement. History suggest, that once their ownership changes hands (whenever that will be), clubs who do overperform so much, quickly revert to type and recalibrate back to their traditional standing.
@petef7323
@petef7323 Ай бұрын
@temporaryuseraccount0012 exactly this. 💯
@paulhanson5164
@paulhanson5164 Ай бұрын
True, but history changes, what really limits a club is the size of the local population. I'm a Villa fan who moved to Bournemouth 15 years ago and back then you saw more Villa fans around here than Bournemouth fans, now every other bugger is wearing Bournemouth gear, they start building the new ground soon. With a metropolitan population of over half a million, half that again nearby and no local rivals this town could support a big club.
@temporaryuseraccount0012
@temporaryuseraccount0012 Ай бұрын
​@@paulhanson5164 I'm sorry, but I do believe that Bournemouth is the kind of club which will be relegated before too long. Perhaps, within the next five seasons or so. I do not regard Bournemouth as an example of a club that could break the mould long term, to become a top club, when traditionally, it has never been. History is not something to be easily disregarded, as thoughout history, many many clubs have experienced periods of prosperity and austerity and success and disaster. And yet, it is still more-or-less the same main clubs who time and again, rise back to the top. Bournemouth have never been one of those clubs, so it would be a small miracle for them to buck the trend.
@paulhanson5164
@paulhanson5164 Ай бұрын
@@temporaryuseraccount0012 Don't particularly disagree with you, I just think geography is almost as important as history in regards of potential. And few clubs have so many people nearby coupled with such a dearth of local rivals.
@jebbmorgan5556
@jebbmorgan5556 Ай бұрын
Credit to you for including the National league too, 116 teams is a lot to sort. Scunthorpe United in National league north would go in the football league for sure.
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
Love their badge, Maccelsfield and bury are also falen giants
@joegilbert3149
@joegilbert3149 Ай бұрын
Torquay, York, Southend, Bury, Yeovil, Oldham, Scunthorpe, Hereford, Hartlepool, Chester and Darlington should all be football league and I've probably missed some
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
@@joegilbert3149 Macclesfield aswell
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
@@joegilbert3149 Big up torquay though, the best sounding team name. Torquay is just so fun to say, probs just me being weird though
@joegilbert3149
@joegilbert3149 Ай бұрын
@Footy13s Foreign people always think I say I support Turkey not Torquay tbf 😂
@SpringsteenRecordings
@SpringsteenRecordings Ай бұрын
Carlisle have spent 1 season in the first tier, 12 seasons in the second tier, 47 seasons in the third tier and 34 seasons in the four tier so they're definitely worthy of League 1
@PAFC-Louie
@PAFC-Louie Ай бұрын
Agree with most of these, although I think Barnsley should be Championship
@ArnoldThompson-pp5
@ArnoldThompson-pp5 Ай бұрын
I would say this is the perfect premier league. Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Chelsea, Everton, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham, Wolves
@ArnoldThompson-pp5
@ArnoldThompson-pp5 Ай бұрын
I have taken Ipswich Town out for Middlesbrough
@rylanplayz6449
@rylanplayz6449 Ай бұрын
Any room for the actual Pride of Anglia?
@Eminem-F1
@Eminem-F1 Ай бұрын
I reckon Bolton and Norwich should be there instead of the Sheffield clubs
@noahwild6745
@noahwild6745 Ай бұрын
@@Eminem-F1behave 🤣🤣🤣
@vincentfield9562
@vincentfield9562 Ай бұрын
I would definitely have Derby over Nottingham forest historically much bigger !
@dj1975dj
@dj1975dj Ай бұрын
Pleased to see that Rovers make the cut, even if only just! I know we've been in a rut since 2010 thanks to our "esteemed" owners but, aside from the 70s, 80s & 99-01 we've been a First Division / PL club, & regularly attracted 50-60,000 fans in better days; not bad for a town that even now only has a population of 130,000 and many other clubs in the area. In that context, & given the recent mismanagement at the club, the crowds we get even now aren't too bad. We've only spent 3 seasons outside of the top two divisions, in our 149 year history. As founder members of the Football League & Premier League, the only founding club to have won both, the most successful town team in England and the only club to have won a major trophy in each of 1800s, 1900s & 2000s, we have a unique place in football history that should rightly put us in the top echelons in any such list.
@patriciarowbottom3126
@patriciarowbottom3126 Ай бұрын
Ive seen the comments and it wos about right with most peaple this is a VERY GOOD vid, you know the score i wouldnt have ipswich in the prem or wba replace with derby or the brough VERY INTERESTING GOT IT ABOUT RIGHT WELL DONE.
@ErinStephanie-mf2qk
@ErinStephanie-mf2qk Ай бұрын
Premier League: Spot on, except I’d replace Sheff Utd with Southampton Championship: Nearly spot on. I’d replace Watford, Millwall and Reading; with Brighton, Luton and Plymouth. League One: Nearly spot on. I’d replace Doncaster, Lincoln, Peterborough, Shrewsbury and Stockport; with Carlisle, Grimsby, Southend, Walsall, and controversially, Bury’s phoenix club. League Two: Replace Accrington, Barrow, Burton, Cheltenham, Crawley, MK, Morecambe, Stevenage, Wycombe; with Aldershot, Chester, Darlington, Halifax, Hereford, Scunthorpe, Torquay, York.
@lakey1237
@lakey1237 Ай бұрын
Very class list there - can’t argue with many of those rankings! And you’re right - keep an eye on Stockport County!
@THEADDICTEDGAMER97
@THEADDICTEDGAMER97 Ай бұрын
Hi Matt. Love your videos. Thank you for putting my home club, (Burnley F.C.) in the Championship. I must admit though, I'm gutted you have got our big rivals, (Blackburn Rovers,) above us in the Premier League. I do remember though, Burnley in the top flight came up against a southern league team in the 3rd round of the FA CUP in 1975. A lad that went by the name of Dickie Guy who played in goal for the Dons played a major part in their win against us. If my memory serves me right, Wimbledon made a draw against Leeds United, (0-0 at Elland Road), before going out in the replay getting beaten by Leeds. So Dickie! If you have read this, you may not have played for my club, Burnley, you are still one of my heroes.
@Calendo9
@Calendo9 Ай бұрын
Utc
@JayHerringshaw-i9g
@JayHerringshaw-i9g 4 күн бұрын
Put some respect on Hull city's history won a FA Cup wich Fulham can't do great comment great fanbase great legends
@SuperKinlo
@SuperKinlo Ай бұрын
Always loved the channel, Ipswich prem, love it. UFEA cup, FA cup and champions of England in our history, with Bobby Robson and Alf Ramsey overseeing those trophies coming to Suffolk. Also never lost at home in Europe in 31 games and have welcomed the likes of Inter Milan, AC Milan, Roma, Lazio, Real Madrid and Barcelona to Portman Road.
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 Ай бұрын
Sincere question ; when did you guys play Real Madrid and Barcalona - what were the circusmtances ? My club - Forest - played (and beat) Barcalona in the 1980 European SuperCup......but we have never had Real Madrid at the City Ground !!!
@SuperKinlo
@SuperKinlo Ай бұрын
@@rjw4762 played Real Madrid home and away in UFEA cup in the early 70s under Bobby Robson. 1-0 win at home, 0-0 at the Bernabeu.
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 Ай бұрын
@@SuperKinlo Thanks.
@SuperKinlo
@SuperKinlo Ай бұрын
@@rjw4762 I’m just happy that it’s clear that we are the biggest team in the east of England. The yellow and green lots biggest achievement is they once beat Bayern Munich 😂
@domspencer9409
@domspencer9409 Ай бұрын
Never won the EA Derby though?
@Peacock_whites_of_Lufc
@Peacock_whites_of_Lufc Ай бұрын
Fantastic show my friend
@nrgdigital-garywilkie3997
@nrgdigital-garywilkie3997 Ай бұрын
Keep up the good work fella 👏
@antonywardle
@antonywardle Ай бұрын
thanks Matt!
@christchristou2902
@christchristou2902 Ай бұрын
Derby County definitely should be in the Premier League. Champions in 72 and 75.
@ArnoldThompson-pp5
@ArnoldThompson-pp5 Ай бұрын
That's actually a really really good list, Decent knowledge and very fair. Although every person will probably have their own team higher lol
@joegilbert3149
@joegilbert3149 Ай бұрын
Not sure how York are a non league club and teams like Fleetwood are league 2 on history though even Burton
@nisarafsar8839
@nisarafsar8839 Ай бұрын
First 42 seconds and already love this channel!
@DodgeDhanda
@DodgeDhanda Ай бұрын
Matt that's a fair shout & only one I would move up is Wigan for winning a major trophy & swap with Watford as they've never won a final even though they've been there same with Palace & Fulham too. But that's just me , but overall I have to say I would go along with your listing's too Matt 👍🏼
@charlesjohn3121
@charlesjohn3121 Ай бұрын
Great attempt 🎉
@jaykafei4815
@jaykafei4815 Ай бұрын
Great video and list. The bottom of the Prem and top of the Championship is very close I think between lots of teams. You have many teams who were historically very very big clubs like Wednesday and others who have been strong throughout their past like Stoke and Burnley and have been far better in the past couple of decades. Has anyone made a algorithm or system to calculate this? Obviously that would be still be subjective but would be a cool idea I think if you weighted different factors together, I'm sure someone has already done this though.
@rosst8919
@rosst8919 Ай бұрын
Stoke haven't been strong in the past. One league cup in their history
@pjoseph5950
@pjoseph5950 Ай бұрын
Good video UTV
@pokezod7832
@pokezod7832 Ай бұрын
I think you perfected it, across all divisions and clubs. Imagine if this happens some day
@Stanno632
@Stanno632 12 күн бұрын
Great choice but I would have put moors in league 1😊
@joshualawley4274
@joshualawley4274 14 күн бұрын
It is fine to say your opinion 0:57 😊😊😊
@Crownandanchorleedsrodley
@Crownandanchorleedsrodley 7 күн бұрын
I want Leeds United to be in the premier league ❤️❤️❤️
@andyclark8991
@andyclark8991 Ай бұрын
Matt SB Love your awesome video. Agree with vest. Changes for perfection. Premiership Crystal Palace Fulham Southampton Championship Blackburn Brighton Ipswich West Brom League 1 Blackpool Carlisle Gillingham Exeter Northampton Wycombe League 2 AFC Wimbledon Oldham Port Vale Shrewsbury Tranmere Rovers
@andyclark8991
@andyclark8991 Ай бұрын
Matt SB Does a 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 for perfection.
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
All good until I got to league 2, Oldham and wimbledon are very much league one clubs and I would make the case for trannie rovers aswell
@andyclark8991
@andyclark8991 Ай бұрын
Tranmere Rovers 9 out of the 11 seasons (league 2 or lower) league 2 very fair for Tranmere Rovers. (Unless you think I’m being to kind to them. Oldham last 2/3 seasons Non league football, league 2 very fair for Oldham. AFC Wimbledon 16 out of 22 seasons (league 2 or lower) league 2 very fair for AFC Wimbledon
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
@@andyclark8991 Still completely disagree with oldham, recency bias is mad, oldham are a proper proper football club
@andyclark8991
@andyclark8991 Ай бұрын
I Footy13 Want to apologise on here for being a thick troll I am. No need for me Footy13 to be a thick troll. And I Footy13 apologise once again over it. And Andy Clark is spot on correct, the only bias view is from myself. And I Footy13 finally wanted to say, agree 100% with Andy Clark Oldham real football club in league 2.
@chriseaton3849
@chriseaton3849 Ай бұрын
Absolutely nailed this list. Outstanding work 👌
@patbrett3031
@patbrett3031 Ай бұрын
That was a pretty good effort Matt!!
@saint1944
@saint1944 Ай бұрын
Southampton 11th in all time PL table. 30+yrs consecutive until relegation in 2005. Back-to-back promotions and 11yrs straight in PL from 2012-23. Won an FA Cup and been in plenty of cup finals and semis along the way, and now back in PL at first attempt this season. 30k through the turnstiles every week. Deservedly PL club.
@saint1944
@saint1944 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the names of the players over the many years. And the football heritage through the academy.
@michaeljamesphipps
@michaeljamesphipps 25 күн бұрын
We get disrespected so much, I see people saying Pompey are a 'proper' Premier league club, they've only been in the top league for about 5 years in the last 60.
@ChrissyboyH44
@ChrissyboyH44 26 күн бұрын
I would definitely have put Grimsby Town in League One rather than League Two. They do actually have previous top flight history, even though this ended just after WW2 in the late 1940s. They have also spent a fair amount of time in the 2nd tier, even though they have gone rather "stagnant" and even been non-league in recent times.
@sydnorth5868
@sydnorth5868 Ай бұрын
I stopped watching when you put Blackburn in the PL and Burnley in the Championship. That was good enough for me!😄
@FlynnWho
@FlynnWho Ай бұрын
What’s wrong with that? Blackburn rover are more successful than Burnley in the premier league
@sydnorth5868
@sydnorth5868 Ай бұрын
@@FlynnWho There's nothing wrong with that. What I meant was that all I was concerned about was Blackburn being put in the PL, and Burnley not. After that, I didn't care about the rest!
@FlynnWho
@FlynnWho Ай бұрын
⁠@@sydnorth5868what’s wrong with that? Blackburn deserves to be there
@carlmichael5592
@carlmichael5592 Ай бұрын
That's an excellent top 20 there, I might put Derby up there in place of, one of the Sheffield clubs maybe? However as you've put Ipswich in the Premier and Norwich in the Championship I've subscribed. ;)
@karenrichards6269
@karenrichards6269 Ай бұрын
That is a very good list with lots of old faces back in the premier league
@Aus_Blade
@Aus_Blade Ай бұрын
Rank 116 teams in under 30 minutes ✅ too easy, nice work !!
@markfrench9004
@markfrench9004 5 күн бұрын
Decent effort. Personally, I would swap Ipswich and Derby, Reading and Barnsley, and Mansfield with Walsall. Barnsley have played more 2nd tier games than anyone, and I believe Walsall have played more 3rd tier games than anyone else.
@gunes_ko07
@gunes_ko07 Ай бұрын
My perfect premier league would be Arsenal, City, United, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, qpr, wigan, norwich, middlesbrough, west brom, southampton, leeds, Everton, Newcastle, sunderland, swansea, bolton and blackburn
@Theepicgolem123
@Theepicgolem123 5 күн бұрын
22:00 lets go!!
@Theepicgolem123
@Theepicgolem123 5 күн бұрын
For sheffield wednesday, not sheffield united
@GavHTFC
@GavHTFC 17 күн бұрын
Personally my ideal Premier League would be Huddersfield, Leeds, Bradford, Bradford PA, Barnsley, the 3 (no typo) Sheffields, Rotherham, Harrogate, Halifax, York, Hull, Guiseley, Brid, Brighouse Town, AFC Emley, Garforth Town, Liversedge FC, Ossett United, Stocksbridge Park Steels and Ponte Carlo Collieries. I will neither confirm nor deny any county-based biases, and yes it will need expanding back to 22.
@1oriss
@1oriss 16 күн бұрын
Middlesbrough is in Yorkshire, so you can kick out one of those tin pot ones Leeds or two of the Sheffield teams and put us in.
@richardmell299
@richardmell299 7 күн бұрын
​@@1oriss😂
@richardmell299
@richardmell299 7 күн бұрын
I like the look of that league would great to see.
@Expatred66
@Expatred66 Ай бұрын
Perfect for the international break; nice one Matt.. For me based on age and fading memories: Arsenal Aston Villa Chelsea Derby (Brian & Pete) Everton Fulham Ipswich Town (Paul Mariner et al) Leeds Liverpool Manchester City (for Maine Rd greats like Dave Watson, Asa Hartford, Paul Power) Manchester United Newcastle United (just) Nottingham Forest Queens Park Rangers (el tels side) Sheffield Wednesday (Hirst, waddle & Walker) Southampton (Lawrie, Keegan, Channon) Sunderland (OBH & my mate🤷‍♂️) Tottenham Hotspur West Ham United Wolves If 22 Coventry City (Jimmy & John) Watford (Barnes & Fash) If 24 Bolton wanderers (World Cup winners) West Bromwich Albion / Stoke- both anti football so neither for me 🤷‍♂️although probably WBW for Cyril
@louminati4318
@louminati4318 Ай бұрын
Excellent. Cogitating on Rangers being Top flight and Brentford in League One.
@ItsStrikesStella
@ItsStrikesStella 6 күн бұрын
These are my predictions so far Stoke City - Prem Arsenal - Prem West Brom - Prem Aston Villa - Prem West Ham - Prem Wolves - Champ Brentford - Prem/Champ (mostly prem) Bournemouth - LG 2 The lion one (Non league) - NON/LEAGUE Bristol - Champ Brighton - LG1 Bolton - LG 1 BOSTON - Non League - finishing it off soon
@deanjgames
@deanjgames 4 күн бұрын
Brighton is a champ or prem club. It has so many upcoming talents.
@MrBobSter82
@MrBobSter82 Ай бұрын
The Plymouth part is 💯💯💯💯
@fallenmaniac8052
@fallenmaniac8052 Ай бұрын
Although we don't have the longest list of league and cup honours, I think Walsall should always automatically be placed in League One as we currently have the most seasons played in the third tier out of all clubs in the pyramid.
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
Very true, although I get you and cheltnam mixed up alot. Also thought walsall was also the capitol of poland
@marcpeters5529
@marcpeters5529 Ай бұрын
Very impressed Matt, nice list
@TheIng123
@TheIng123 Ай бұрын
Burnley, founder member, twice champions of England, one FA Cup win, two runner up, two Charity Shields, played in the European Cup. I think you have that wrong. Also held the record for most unbeaten games in the top division until Arsenal beat it.
@1977Futre
@1977Futre Ай бұрын
Now you say it I think you are right. I wasn't aware of their history.
@Fc25Hawks
@Fc25Hawks Ай бұрын
I loved the video and it was reasonable. 491st.
@Minionbanana27
@Minionbanana27 Ай бұрын
As a Shrewsbury fan, thanks for putting Shrewsbury in league one. Championship is impossible for us and it unfortunately seems like we’re playing league two next year.
@Minionbanana27
@Minionbanana27 Ай бұрын
Honestly, Shrewsbury was doing amazing in the 17/18 season. Idk what happened to them after that. Like, they drew 2-2 with Liverpool but then lost 1-0 at Anfield. And they also almost won the BSM Trophy and lost the league one playoff final, almost getting promoted to the championship. i wish we could have that Shrewsbury back.
@malcolmprice9545
@malcolmprice9545 Ай бұрын
Ipswich won the old 1st division in the sixties the FA cup in 78 and the uefa cup in 81 so yes have quite a successful history 👍👍
@callumwhalley4259
@callumwhalley4259 Ай бұрын
Saints would be prem like they were one of the 24 founders of the prem and they spent more time in the top flight than any other league from 1992-2005 then 2012-2023 then 2024-2025 so that’s more history in the prem than any other league
@Huayra21
@Huayra21 Ай бұрын
Yeah we’re like 11th all time pl points
@1977Futre
@1977Futre Ай бұрын
Yeh but this is history. Not Prem. Prem is pretty recent in the grand scheme.
@jebbmorgan5556
@jebbmorgan5556 Ай бұрын
My observation is that Blades, Owls and Ipswich are all premier league, as you said Ipswich won the Euro cup in 80/81, Derby County are similar size. Luton Town league one is spot on.
@pokezod7832
@pokezod7832 Ай бұрын
Ipswich have also been the only team in english history to get promoted and win the top division in the season after.
@hukamatwal
@hukamatwal Ай бұрын
Derby County were in the European Cup one time and there were in the semi finals (the best team out of all of them) but juventus there opponents paid the ref and they lost
@HungryDuck-bw2fr
@HungryDuck-bw2fr Ай бұрын
@@pokezod7832Without doing any additional research - Forest finished 3rd in Div 2 in 1977, thus getting promoted. The following season (1978) they won Division 1.
@pokezod7832
@pokezod7832 Ай бұрын
@@HungryDuck-bw2fr you are correct, I dont know where I read that but thats wrong, as both Forest(1978) and Everton(1932) have managed that. Still an amazing feat though, and one that might not be done again.
@IDGAFAS
@IDGAFAS Ай бұрын
I love your love for us Matt, but I think we’re one of the longest serving members of the Championship. Im 40 next year and in my lifetime we’ve been a 2nd tier team for a large majority of it.
@circle2867
@circle2867 Ай бұрын
you have quite a bit of history tho. i think thats what swings it for your club to be in the pl.
@rosiechapman663
@rosiechapman663 Ай бұрын
Smashed it 🥳
@SpringsteenRecordings
@SpringsteenRecordings Ай бұрын
York were in the Football League from 1929-2004 and 2012-2016. They belong in League 2 at least smh.
@Susanna3375
@Susanna3375 Ай бұрын
Perfect to me. You have to really know your football history to appreciate this tho
@alextapper9471
@alextapper9471 Ай бұрын
that's really good
@adamjones7172
@adamjones7172 21 күн бұрын
The very best club in England (and obviously therefore, the WHOLE world), is Sheffield Wednesday… so far beyond every other club on earth! SHEFFIELD - the spiritual home of GODS game… Best of the best… centre of England… and Yorkshire - centre of the world! Wednesday are just different 👊👊
@sindhuahuja5230
@sindhuahuja5230 28 күн бұрын
Personally as a Bristol City fan, we haven't been doing good in the Championship and possibly get relegated
@davidlowe8294
@davidlowe8294 Ай бұрын
Spot on with Rovers
@rawschri
@rawschri Ай бұрын
Bristol Rovers I agree, Blackburn and Burnley need to be swapped ...
@ariellaellisxo
@ariellaellisxo Ай бұрын
@@rawschriabsolutely fuckin not, we are massive compared to them lot
@Robster6480
@Robster6480 Ай бұрын
@@rawschriRent free sunsheeeeeine
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
@@rawschri Both should be in the prem
@callumday8852
@callumday8852 Ай бұрын
Do a tier list of football team grounds you been too
@DeanMcDonald1998
@DeanMcDonald1998 29 күн бұрын
Think the only one I’d strongly disagree with would be Barrow, think Yeovil and York are both bigger clubs imo
@strangeman-01
@strangeman-01 Ай бұрын
im a chelsea fan but putting brentford, bornmouth and brighton in lg1 is wild
@jebbmorgan5556
@jebbmorgan5556 Ай бұрын
As a fellow Coventry City fan I think this list is really accurate
@Robster6480
@Robster6480 Ай бұрын
I think that’s a pretty good shout tbf.
@PAFC-Louie
@PAFC-Louie Ай бұрын
As for Argyle I can’t argue with us in League One in the slightest. A lot of our fans would say Championship but we spent 13 years outside of it so that’s not right.
@sah_19
@sah_19 Ай бұрын
I've seen dozens of videos "ranking the 92" or "which division every team should play". So far noone took time to make a research so I took some time to insult the most of them 😅. So far you did the best job I've seen so bravo! BUT I don't 100% agree with you so this is my opinion. Millwall can hardly be in the championship. Only 2 top flight appereances and 1 efl cup. Wimbledon and Notts County have 14 and 30 top flight appereances and 1 fa cup each. Easily bigger than Millwall. Now West Ham have played top flight 67 seasons and won 3 fa cups. Derby, Portsmouth, Burnley and Boro have 65,37, 60 and 61 years top flight and won 2,2,2,0 champions, 1,2,1,0 fa cups and 1efl cup and one european final for Boro. Also you could replace West Ham with Huddersfield ( 3 times champions one fa cup). Finally I don't know why you put Shrewsbury in league one. Chesterfield, Crewe and Grimsby easily bigger. Bravo once again for the nice video. Cheers!
@sah_19
@sah_19 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see the ultimate first five tiers tier-list, with Bury in league one and Torquay in league two. With a few adjustments in the first 3 tiers and by correcting someone noticeable mistakes in the bottom 2 you can perfect it. By the way I'm still researching. 😅
@greenwichmaths949
@greenwichmaths949 Ай бұрын
I would have put barnsley in the championship on account of having the most second tier appearances of any club, otherwise great list
@christofinb
@christofinb Ай бұрын
Good thanks Matt 😊 for putting Ipswich up there and tin pot Mustard City down in Championship, Ipswich pride of East Anglia.
@antonioiachetta6381
@antonioiachetta6381 Ай бұрын
exactly, cannot ignore silverware, youtuber that puts respect on ipswich town name like it. not many of the 92 have won the top flight, fa cup and a european cup and still have a good amount of years in the top flight aswell as 30k ground. big club, as your grandad
@Huayra21
@Huayra21 Ай бұрын
Good list. I say we deserve pl but a good list nonetheless
@ArnoldThompson-pp5
@ArnoldThompson-pp5 Ай бұрын
You either have a good memory or have done some good research here, Salford City and Mk Dons are hard to place I agree. The Sheffield clubs top flight is a good shout, Coventry City Championship is fair. Bolton and Derby both on verge of premier league too. Accrington maybe could move up one for being founding members.
@WolvesFI
@WolvesFI Ай бұрын
wait is that Accrington different Club what founding member Accrington 1888
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
Not hard to place for me, both are non league Imo
@aaronsmith7318
@aaronsmith7318 Ай бұрын
That premier league is 🔥🔥🔥
@37stuey
@37stuey 15 күн бұрын
Plymouth Argyle have spent the majority of their seasons in the second tier. Odd decision on your behalf.
@ghjn5640
@ghjn5640 Ай бұрын
About Tranmere Rovers, they have made it into the playoffs of the English 2nd tier three times. They could have played Liverpool in the top flight for the first time ever, but they failed in the playoffs on all three occasions.
@WTyrahcaZ
@WTyrahcaZ Ай бұрын
As a Coventry fan, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE PREM NEXT YEAR!!!!!
@footballfanar9717
@footballfanar9717 Ай бұрын
I can tell you posted this comment prior to losing to Swansea 😅
@WTyrahcaZ
@WTyrahcaZ Ай бұрын
@footballfanar9717 Yup. I'm still going to believe, but we have a couple of hard games coming up, we might be in relegation for a few weeks but we'll bounce back.
@footballfanar9717
@footballfanar9717 Ай бұрын
@@WTyrahcaZ Hope so, pal. As a Man United fan, I'd love to see Robins guide Cov back to the prem. I think it'll be a challenging season for you guys, but we all know Robins loves a challenge.
@WTyrahcaZ
@WTyrahcaZ Ай бұрын
@footballfanar9717 This year will be a challenge getting into the Prem. If the time comes that Coventry makes it up, then they are just going to have to hope on some good results. Coventry have had some recent good results against Prem teams. Yes, it is only a few games, but it's still a step in the right direction. 3-2 vs Wolves with a 100th minute winner. Narrowly losing to Man United on pens. Losing to Spurs because of two late goals. Coventry just need a little bit more stamina to hold on against the big clubs, and they might put up a decent fight to stay up.
@footballfanar9717
@footballfanar9717 Ай бұрын
@@WTyrahcaZ Tbf you should have beaten us in that FA Cup semi-final. VAR went against you badly that day.
@CovTV1
@CovTV1 Ай бұрын
Share your opinions, If we smash 3,399 Likes, I will give this a go!!
@marcpeters5529
@marcpeters5529 Ай бұрын
Do it
@keddw
@keddw Ай бұрын
Pretty good list, but I think York City deserve to be, at least, in League 2. Thanks Matt.
@sah_19
@sah_19 Ай бұрын
True. 2 seasons in 2nd tier,38 in the third,32 in the fourth and playing the 23rd season non league. Easily league 2
@quevda
@quevda Ай бұрын
York over Barrow easily, Barrow are a new football league team
@keddw
@keddw Ай бұрын
​@@quevda It was ages ago , but Barrow were in the League before, but got voted out in 1972 or something, didn't they?. As for York, didn't they get screwed by their former owners which led to them going out of the EFL?
@harrymoseley8496
@harrymoseley8496 Ай бұрын
Just to fact check Town won top flight 3 times in a row (1924-1926) aswell as an FA cup (even tho it’s in dinosaur years)
@carlmichael5592
@carlmichael5592 Ай бұрын
I reckon the best indicator of the top 20 teams is the number of seasons they've played in Europe, as it takes into account league position and trophies won. So here is the list of the best 20 English clubs, certainly over the last 60 years or so, based on European qualification. I have not included Welsh teams qualifying for the Cup Winners Cup. 1. Liverpool (49) 2. Man Utd (47) 3. Arsenal (39) 4. Chelsea (32) 5. Tottenham (30) 6. Man City (24) 7. Leeds (18) 8. Aston Villa (17) 9. Everton (17) 10. Newcastle (17) 11. Ipswich Town (12) 12. Nottm Forest (11) 13. West Ham (11) 14. Southampton (9) 15. Wolves (8) 16. Leicester City (6) 17. Birmingham City (5) 18. West Brom (5) 19. Derby (4) 20. Sheff Wed (4) Apart from these Fulham have been in three times but no other club more than twice.
@paddypleiner5518
@paddypleiner5518 Ай бұрын
"Let's put Ipswich in the Prem" also "Let's put Boro in the Championship"... Also, Swansea spent a good while in the 4th division... and Bristol City most of the time in the 3rd Division, overall a lot of recency bias with a preference for some "I think" teams
@CornishJannerPlymouthFanTV
@CornishJannerPlymouthFanTV Ай бұрын
Hi Matt, couldn’t agree more with us, I would love to put us in the Championship for club size and it feels like where we belong after all my time watching Argyle but, the reality is, there is 24 clubs bigger than us which does make us League One indeed. I do think however that we are the biggest club in the country to never reach the Premier League/top flight! Plymouth as a city is also the largest in the nation to never host Top Flight football and we’re the largest city south of London as well by population! Hopefully one day it’ll happen 👍🏻 Here’s mine in alphabetical order (I’m including clubs further down the divisions too after all I’ve seen in English Football over the years) PREMIER LEAGUE Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Ipswich, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Portsmouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Southampton, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham, Wolves CHAMPIONSHIP Birmingham, Blackburn, Bolton, Brighton, Bristol City, Burnley, Cardiff, Charlton, Coventry, Crystal Palace, Derby, Fulham, Huddersfield, Hull, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Norwich, Preston, QPR, Reading, Sheffield United, Stoke, Swansea, Watford LEAGUE ONE Barnsley, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Bradford, Brentford, Bristol Rovers, Carlisle, Doncaster, Gillingham, Lincoln, Luton, Notts County, Oldham, Oxford, Peterborough, Plymouth, Port Vale, Rotherham, Shrewsbury, Southend, Swindon, Wigan, Wimbledon, Wycombe LEAGUE TWO Burton, Bury, Cambridge, Cheltenham, Chesterfield, Colchester, Crewe, Exeter, Grimsby, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, Mansfield, MK Dons, Newport, Northampton, Rochdale, Scunthorpe, Stockport, Torquay, Tranmere, Walsall, Wrexham, Yeovil, York NATIONAL LEAGUE Accrington Stanley, Aldershot, Barnet, Barrow, Boston, Bromley, Chester, Crawley, Dagenham & Redbridge, Darlington, Fleetwood, Forest Green, Halifax, Harrogate, Hereford, Kidderminster, Macclesfield, Maidstone, Morecambe, Rushden & Diamonds, Salford, Southport, Stevenage, Sutton
@paulfaulkner4127
@paulfaulkner4127 Ай бұрын
What about doing a video of where you think teams will be in 10 years time?
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
No, we wont exist
@Veniceredmask01
@Veniceredmask01 Ай бұрын
@@Footy13syou will, your fans will make the rise from the ashes
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
@@Veniceredmask01 Bruh I hope
@Footy13s
@Footy13s Ай бұрын
@@Veniceredmask01 Thats the same quote sir jon madjeski said about us
@dmuellner1997
@dmuellner1997 Ай бұрын
The only thing I really disagree on is York City non league (I am not an York City fan). York spent from 1929 to 2004 in the football league and then again from 2012 to 2016. I personally would but Burton out (no direspect but there only football league for 15 years and where never before that in the football league).
@ryanwade6019
@ryanwade6019 Ай бұрын
Also Halifax Town spent from 1921 - 1993 and then 1998 - 2002 in the football league. Agreed, definitely move Burton down and also Crawley
@dmuellner1997
@dmuellner1997 Ай бұрын
Yeah it depends. If you count FC Halifax Town and the 2008 dissolved Halifax Town A.F.C. as the same club (which I would) defiently. If you say it's a new club then not. But I would also count them as the same beacause it's definetly meant to be that way although it don't officially count as the same club.
@mattsb449
@mattsb449 Ай бұрын
On reflection I'm happy enough with my top 3 division picks but I could potentially have York and FC Halifax in LG2
@lesliegiles8401
@lesliegiles8401 Ай бұрын
reminiscing the old days
@chrispark9343
@chrispark9343 Ай бұрын
Probably a fair assessment of my team Pompey. Historically, pre 1960 we were massive with two league titles and we also held the FA Cup from 1939 to 1945 during the war. Post 1960 we have been up and down a bit although we won the FA Cup again in 2008 and reached the final in 2010 so Championship is probably right
@timphillips9954
@timphillips9954 Ай бұрын
You can't live in the past or you would have Nots county, Blackpool and Preston on your list, lol. UTA.
@marcpeters5529
@marcpeters5529 Ай бұрын
As much as I don't like Nottingham Forest, they probably do have to go in the premier league..
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 Ай бұрын
ANy club that can list 'Champions of Europe' TWICE on their roll of honour deserves to go in the Top Division. Something that Arsenal, Spurs & Everton never achieved.
@jonathanfrimerman8855
@jonathanfrimerman8855 Ай бұрын
Forest have to be in there they were European champs twice 2 years in a row
@Expatred66
@Expatred66 Ай бұрын
Bloody hell.. I nearly fell off my chair.. that’s got to be the first time you’ve ever been positive about forest - even if it was through gritted teeth.. fair play sir, and I’d probably reciprocate 🫡
@MrBallbag47
@MrBallbag47 Ай бұрын
2 European cups, 4 league cups, 2 fa cups, the Simod cup - haha, super cup, consistently in the top 6 of the top flight in the 70s,80s & 90s and one of the oldest most historic teams in England. Rest my case.
@malarktaful
@malarktaful Ай бұрын
@@Expatred66 behave Matt always gives Forest a fair shake, I reckon it's his second club.
@NiallRichards-v1l
@NiallRichards-v1l Ай бұрын
Go on boro go on boro the prem is waiting we can do it this year
@evertonfc5380
@evertonfc5380 Ай бұрын
We may be a car crash in the top flight currently but this is one ranking system where as Evertonians we can genuinely feel justified in arguing we are the top dog. 1 of 12 founding members of the original league, played the most seasons and the most % of our time in the top flight (higher than anyone else), every season in the PL and 9 Titles, 5 FA Cups & a European Cup Winners Cup.
@nok9979
@nok9979 Ай бұрын
Yeah, you mates are a massive club. Deserve to be a top half placing club, shame it ain't like that.
@falcon5065
@falcon5065 Ай бұрын
Middlesbrough just missing out on the Premier League sums us up quite well I think unfortunately Started following football only a few years ago my family have been boro fans for as long as I can remember so I would love to see us go up one day and inevitably go straight back down again
@BarkingLondon
@BarkingLondon Ай бұрын
North East underdog club. Which suits them tbh!
@Milwalllover
@Milwalllover 15 күн бұрын
Everything correct but MK Dons league 1 IDK why I think this
@SabrehamLincoln
@SabrehamLincoln Ай бұрын
That is very much the Prem that I grew up with in the 90s
@finnpearson9750
@finnpearson9750 Ай бұрын
Saints are 11th in the all time EPL table and have spent most of the last 60 years in the top flight. Also been in Europe a number of times and have produced players such as Shearer and Bale, and have had Keegan and Shilton play for them in their primes. I know I’m bias but I just feel like that should be enough to place Southampton as a top flight club. Yes we haven’t won loads but we are almost always there and we have a big following, especially compared to everyone else on the south coast.
@philalderson2171
@philalderson2171 Ай бұрын
I agree
@Pizzatc
@Pizzatc Ай бұрын
Yes Matt, Ipswich where they belong ITFC 💙
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