Which F1 Team has the MOST POWER?

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Who has the best engine this year? Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull or Alpine?
They’ve all developed these engines to be the best they can be within the rules, but each have taken very slightly different approaches - so which one is best?
We’ve analysed acceleration data from every race this season to see which comes out on top - and the order isn’t what you’d expect. Honestly, when we pulled the data together - all of us here in the office were a bit confused.
And this in weeks race, power matters a lot. Azerbaijan has lots of HEAVY acceleration zones and a really, really long straight.
Let's get into it.
Now, we must explain first that these engines are REALLY close this year. The rules look to have done their job, with no clear frontrunner in terms of power.
Which for the past 6 or 7 years, hasn’t been the case. Mercedes got it right with the new rules in 2014, nailing their Turbo-Hybrid format straight off the bat, leaving everyone else catching up.
But they have caught up. We expect the majority of the teams have somewhere around 1050 horsepower available to them, and the difference between the best and the worst isn’t more than about 15 horsepower. So really not a lot.
With that said, the engines do differ. So let's break down these differences.
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[@MannequinSmiles]

i will literally buy and ship scarbs a $100 usb mic if he agrees to use it.

[@waghak27]

??????

[@andresmcjr]

Bro what? 🤣

[@Atlas.Brooklyn]

@@andresmcjr scarbs is notorious for his dogwater quality microphone

[@PaulKentSkates]

Even a $20 smartphone lav would sound way better.

[@gurraglad]

MVP. I hope he agrees 😂

[@hattorihonzo8340]

Huge credit and respect to Honda. Developing an F1 power unit is so difficult in general let alone a truly competitive one (just look at how long it’s taken Renault/Alpine just to climb up the midfield) So to see them progress from the most laughed at engine supplier, to showing potential winning that first race in 2019, to now being arguably the strongest power unit in F1 in just a few years is such an insane achievement. You can tell they worked hard for that.

[@memolano100]

And such a shame they left right after the big achievement.

[@ahmadtarmizi5582]

​@@memolano100 Honda still there, but RBR take care more. You can still see HRC logo in that car. Its about money dude

[@jakeying8753]

@@memolano100 at least they are still helping with the engine although they aren’t really in F1

[@tomnewham1269]

I’m not convinced Honda has the strongest engine. The other engines might be turned down so as to finish strongly at the end of the season. But it is good that Honda now has a competitive engine and perhaps McLaren would have been better off if they had stuck with it.

[@PK-xu7gu]

@@tomnewham1269 They suffer the least losses as wear is added.

[@Chyeahokay]

After seeing the alpines in Baku today, I am throughly impressed with their powerunit

[@peeturpain9379]

That is because they are running monza spec wing, way waaaaay less drag than the rest. Also could be running much higher engine modes.

[@michaeltelfer3483]

Basicaly no rear wing on the thing

[@user-xn3li3uh2h]

They would perform great on qualify but maybe struggle long run in race because they only have tiny bit of down force.

[@MashiatCOD99]

@@user-xn3li3uh2h Other way around.

[@areebsiddiqui758]

Alpine are running the least drag of any team. They're the slowest in the low speed corners but rapid down the straights.

[@gpaje]

Honda Racing Company (HRC) are working on Red Bull's engine exclusively until the end of 2025, RBPT is working only on the future 2026 motors. They haven't had a single mechanical issue on the Red Bull cars this year so far except for a sensor issue on Perez's car, where he still finished 4th. Their 3 DNFs were caused by fuel tank vacuum issue and a broken fuel line, none of which were directly tired to the combustion engines or hybrid systems. Red Bull's PUs are probably the most reliable this year so far, their fuel systems however?

[@halofreak1990]

Pretty much like last year, with Red Bull only exceeding their allowed number of engines due to being torpedoed or otherwise ran off the track, and not through any fault of their own

[@gpaje]

@@halofreak1990 Exactly, Silverstone and the race after where they were mugged by Bottas hurt their engine allocation for the rest of the year.

[@slevingaius]

Wasnt surpised tbh although i did have doubts before the reveal of the results, afterall they are the engine supplier in Indycar too which already had been running on E10 fuels if im correct. Great to see Honda left no stone unturned, they made a masterpiece. I pressume they are still the smallest PU on the grid?

[@benfulford3943]

Are you aware of all the PU issues that alpha tauri have experienced? Yuki has retired at least twice because of drive train issues. I'm struggling to accept your exclusions with sensor and fuel line issues can't be counted as PU reliability. They've definitely struggled with reliability on their PUs. Way more than any of the Mercedes powered vehicles or Renault

[@beanot2622]

@@benfulford3943 Looks like they send Alpha Tauris the sloppy seconds.

[@billybobnaughtyknob895]

I think the 2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix tried to tell us that reliability is also important in determining who's got the best engine.

[@alegresharamae4151]

And after that we can say right now that mercedes have the best reliability.

[@Frozander]

@@alegresharamae4151 None of the RB PUs had reliability issues. All of their DNFs came from hydraulics and fuel pump related issues (standard part). As a car in general yeah Merc has the best reliability but in terms of PU RB still haven't had an issue.

[@snoopythedog3266]

@@Frozander DNF's are a problem. Apparently Covid which closed many of the sub factories working on the engines is giving some problems of reliability

[@F1Tom2005]

@@Frozander meanwhile Ferrari get to see their car blow up every few weeks

[@user-pc5qj2ix2c]

@@alegresharamae4151 Your comment didn't age well. RB is a class apart. it's a formula 1+ racing in the formula 1 class (like mercedes, ferrari and mclaren have managed in the past)

[@blacksterangel]

I don’t quite buy the theory that Mercedes engines are tuned down to improve reliability while waiting for chassis to improve. For Mercedes work team, it’s plausible. But Williams and Aston Martin? These guys would need all the help they could have to score points. And I think if the engine has a rocket mode they’d use it every weekend even if they end up using 5 engines in this season.

[@CJr_M]

It wouldn't make sense to use the highest engine performance if it's just going to worsen the cars driveability. That's what I've gotten from the performance from their engine this year. McLaren seem to have the more stable chassis and it's therefore the team that's more suitable to use this engine at it's best performing spec.

[@peeturpain9379]

in spain, with their new spec engine, they were the fastest in a straightline. This proved that they were running the engine in lower modes previously because of porpoising. Because there was hardly any porpoising in spain they could run it more optimally.

[@saberline152]

all the customer teams have to use the same settings as the team that provides the engine if I'm not mistaken, that's why it can hurt cars like Williams and AM more, the Mclaren seems to do better at times, the teams themselves have stated that their cars are just not optimal yet

[@arnoldmbuthia2687]

You sound like a Mercedes naysayer

[@simon9548]

@@peeturpain9379 no, they just had lower downforce setup than Ferrari and Redbull

[@abbasrizvi4953]

Honda has always pride itself by calling themselves Engine Manufacturers not Automakers.

[@mick8473]

Imagine if Honda weren't crippled by that stupid token system.

[@pauls5745]

it's funny they are ducking out but still not ducking out

[@MrGtubedude]

@@mick8473 u could say that about all the manufacturers…

[@abbasrizvi4953]

@@mick8473 I never quite understood how the token system played out. But I think Renault also was seriously affected by this. As I can recall it was put in effect in 2015 and was suppose to go all the way to 2020. I think Hondas come a long way, though their motor can be unrealiable at times but it's showing some serious results. Mercs with the most reliable engine is still 2/10th off the pace

[@Losthillz]

Respect to Honda. Came into the sport late and still beat the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari engines.

[@brendankelly2653]

Brother, if one thing Honda knows how to do, it's engines. Even Honda lawnmowers are good and reliable 😁

[@Tansle620]

huh? They have been in an out of the sport since the 60's

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

@@brendankelly2653 no one makes the kind of power from a litre engine, they way honda does. The Vtec kicks in yo!

[@guccipucci69420]

Lol what do you mean came late and beat them? They joined McLaren in 2015 a year after the engine rule change and had absolutely dismal pace, 2020 was the start of them catching up

[@cafesociety8525]

@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 I mean they make the least powerful 1000cc bikes so...

[@christianorsa]

these engines are so fascinating & complex for someone who doesn't know that much about these things.

[@namenamename390]

When the Renault (Alpine) engine isn't even in the thubmnail El Pain

[@aayush9437]

That was the first thing I noticed :((

[@GelsonMwale]

I love your videos. Truly appreciate the massive effort in producing them.

[@964cuplove]

Please please dive deeper into,all the technical details in the engine, pre-ignition the funny crank assembly, the inter coolers etc. etc I’d love to get more insight into all of these things !!!

[@eoincassin4265]

There is no Red Bull engine...RBR even announced that the engine plan changed and that the engines are purely Honda made and maintained this year. This is why Marko was saying that Red Bull ENGINES will be a new engine manufacturer in 2026. Honda at Sakura will be taking care of these until then.

[@daferrarifan]

Remembering how powerful the BMW engine was back in the days at Williams I'm curious as to what kinda PU they'd come up with today

[@shapshooter7769]

1050 hp for today's turbo V6 is not bad especially for that fact they run cleaner and more reliably than the turbo beasts in the 80's.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@shapshooter7769 what he means is, how good a modern turbo hybrid v6 bmw engine would be. the bmw v10 had apparently 810hp

[@shapshooter7769]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Yep, and the 80's BMW V6 made 1200 bhp on race trim

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@shapshooter7769 (x) maximum doubt. those numbers are ridiculously inflated.

[@matiasfpm]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD nope. Those monsters could destroy dinamos 🤣

[@TheDuck6363]

Just found your show, I found it great to watch before the race Sunday. I will keep watching,well done sir

[@michaela8367]

Not bad for a GP2 engine

[@valgoyt912]

😬

[@adammcloude6642]

😂😂

[@beanlentil]

actual gp2 (f2) engines today: utter shite

[@Joselu22]

Only took them 7 years to be competitive, not bad.

[@kevinilhamapriandy619]

@@Joselu22 It takes time to become the best, even ferrari has to cheat lol

[@MichaelRoma91]

To think that Honda was a meme a few years back (GP2!!) and how it is on top right now is pretty impressive

[@arcelivez]

Naaah man - it's Redbull Power Trains now! They chose it themselves...

[@nonameyet2205]

@@arcelivez Redbull powertrain is just rebranded Honda engine, you can clearly see HRC (honda racing) logo on their car 🤦

[@onxon8611]

Honda bro..

[@arcelivez]

@@nonameyet2205 dude... You can't see Honda's logo on their car - which is the whole point - it means Honda is not being represented - that despite the engine of course having mainly been developed by it and probably produced by them and bring good. So no dude, there isn't a Honda logo on the car anywhere - the Honda logo you're referring to is from the last years, not this years, now it's "bybit" where it was Honda... 🤦 It's also much more than just rebranding in this case or at least will be on the future, they've been working hard last year to bring the engine development from Japan into the UK (or at least for the most part)

[@yes0011]

@@arcelivez hrc logo on the back. and honda logo on the engine. they still using honda powerunit/engine but not with honda workmanship

[@drilled4798]

Would love to see performance comparison of the toptier cars of each era speciacally the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s to one and another. Both stats and track times, would be prima content..! @driver61

[@Sethm411]

Guys, I find this video absolutely fascinating considering what we've seen in these first handful of grand prixs. also, that high resolution shot of all 10 front ends is very very cool for comparing the differences in each team, I paused the video and stared at it for probably 10 minutes. please keep up the great work, I'm a big fan of the content!

[@maverickstclare3756]

grands prix, not grand prixs

[@alecrl1]

Great insight. I have been saying to mates that if you where in Mercs position you would save the engine for when you have a chassis to extract the performance.

[@henriwolbrink]

As it was known that 2022 engine development would be Frozen in March. Honda made an era (2022 to 2026) deciding decision to bring 2022 engine forward to 2021 season. Sadly Max couldn't bring in the manufacturers title for Honda on his own. All respect for Checo today. But he clearly underestimated the RedBull package. When he mentioned that he would need 5 races to get on par with the RedBull car. And let us at last not forget the efforts of Mobil oil. The whole package has to work.

[@guaranteedgenius7895]

"A very slightly different approach" love it

[@benjieking3138]

Subscribed. Your videos are awesome and the man who breaks down the vehicle engine and everything about these videos explains all the reasons why I adore F1.

[@dy7296]

It's fascinating to know how out of 10 or more past engine suppliers out there, only 4 remained.

[@robinmaas869]

you don't even take Renault seriously, this year's engine is completely new compared to last year. And you can’t take this vid serious, Ferrari is using a smaller turbo so automatically are faster at acceleration and slower at topspeed, and you ignore topspeed

[@kwl189]

Exactly. Renault went down the split turbo route and tightened up on their packaging. Fair play to them as they have quickly got their shit together after so many poor season. Ricciardo should have stayed with the team. Him and Fernando would be possibly better than Ocon and Fernando.

[@RedDwarfNerd]

I thought the Renault had been looking a decent PU this year, great to see it laid out with data!

[@highthai7]

Do the Honda F1 engines have VTEC?

[@deepalikarekar2262]

Ig so

[@acuro9272]

No

[@przemoa.1672]

yes there is something like that

[@justanotherday9904]

I guess you might want to change the Ferrari one after Baku.

[@ierbutza21]

Weird how some dont think the alpine (renault) engines are good,people forget renault had good PU .

[@filipealmeida5511]

tell that to Alonso. 3 PU in 4/5 races

[@KillZoneHart1]

Unreliable so far though.

[@janne-mans8295]

In 2021 Merc did a trick Using early enough engines, to be replaced and then reused without penalty. It is a stochastic approach to the regulations. So they knew they could turn up the power levels, as they had precalculated all engines would be optimally used for the highest output if required. Yet with higher power level comes wear of pressure seals, causing loss of performance, earlier in the engine life cycle. Honda took a more conventional approach, preserving less wear on seals to maintain full pressure. It is a gamble, that almost paid out for Merc. All is a matter of compromises. Who overall makes the best most reliable choices, to be in play at every last 15 laps of a race, is king in almost all races, except for the odd 4 tracks maybe. Yet the 4 to 5 odd tracks do not count, as long as you secure podiums on all the other tracks. So you can have the fastests, most powerful engine, yet it may not pay off due to not being there with optimal pressure, when it counts: the 15 final laps. It is a percentage game projected over an entire season.

[@nagasako7]

Redbull is loving HONDA down in Baku straight. Its pace pushed Ferraris to overheat and blow at halfway mark.

[@iikcorleone7279]

Haha..i find it funny when someone say "Ferrari ahead of honda by 10 hp", or "honda is the most powerful engine" or "now alpine beat mercedes in raw hp" or "merc is the slowest engine now"Etc.. The fact is f1 engine performance has a lot of thing beside HP figure Like eficieny,heat management,hybrid system,combustion stability etc.. Best PU could be slightly down on power to Second best PU or worst PU could possible had a better ICE than the best one etc..but the overal performance that matter..hence why there is no clear cut to decide which of the 4 manufacture is the best

[@souffle01]

Efficiency, cooling, combustion etc will also translate in performance in racing. Some manufacturers could be running their engines a lot cooler and more efficient, but if it doesn't translate to higher performance on the same fuel loads, then they don't have a real advantage in competitive racing. Therefore it shouldn't be part of the equation IF you can't tell by the performance and reliability over time. It's about running in the sweet spot of those combining elements. If Honda runs their engine with a lower efficiency and higher temps than Mercedes for example, it wouldn't ultimately matter as long as they win races on higher performance without fueling or reliability issues. If anything, it would point to Honda having found the absolute sweet spot of the engine performance.

[@the-real-zpero]

I recently started working at Caterpillar in the gas fuel engine division and the other day I actually learned about pre-chamber ignition at work. Really interesting that I'm also hearing about it in a F1 KZbin channel 😁

[@devo196047]

Only 15 horsepower difference, but I'm sure 15 horsepower can really make a paint job go fast.

[@Richard-Gore]

I think the advantage of Honda PU, is not the power, but the size. Honda made their PU compact and lightweight, and it was originally designed for 22 car, but did well also in 21 car. Mercedes on the other hand, focus on pure power, the size of the engine may force them to compromise chassis design.

[@abhaykiran7325]

armchair engineer detected opinion rejected (its a yoke dont get salty)

[@mediascapes2011]

Topic request, could you give a talk about car set-up, quail, race, and race and team strategies impacting set-up. Thank you

[@helloitsme3940]

I didnt understand a lot of things in this vid but surely enjoyable!

[@stevel9627]

Not surprised by the Honda engine being the fastest despite a few guys in another vid trying to argue with me it wasn't. Seeing the Renault right up there though i think needs more praise and having all teams be so close means these next few years are going to be great for the sport provided teams can sort out the porpoising

[@kingalfred3902]

Only a few years ago ...Honda engined cars came nowhere ......now with RB they win ...!!!!..Why is that ...??? Because the RB has the best package ..( without the engine )......and then there is ....MAX...!!!!!!.....No maths needed...!!.

[@stevel9627]

@@kingalfred3902 yeah and we all saw the RB with the package when they had a Renault v6 engine. World beaters weren’t they. No maths needed indeed

[@Snowcatsrt]

Great analysis but just wondering why you guys didn't also look at the other teams using the same power units and add their data into the comparison. An average across the multiple teams as a secondary graph would be interesting. Like Red Bull and Alpha Taura averaged and the Ferrari Haas combo. Could that have been misleading or more informative about the PU Vs chassis gains?

[@Ronny999x]

Bernie Ecclestone said Mercedes was helped by the FIA to stop Red Bull domination. I know his reputation isn't great lately. But he claimed this years ago. Has it ever been investigated? Should Ricciardo be 2014 Champion?

[@pat17681]

wtf

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Like you said, Ecclestone's rep isn't great, that's all that needs to be said about that.

[@Ronny999x]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Yeah but back then he was F1 Boss and had a better Reputation. So it still should be investigated.

[@Euclides287]

@@Ronny999x Nothing but bullshit.

[@AZBCDEE]

You’re just a salty Dutch stop crying about something that happened 8 years ago 🤣 🤣 too funny

[@jackwong2253]

After watching the race in Baku, I finally realised the reliability of an engine is the point of matter. RIP for all dead ferrari engine.

[@CJr_M]

I find it rather interesting that Honda would rather be affiliated with Indy Car and not Formula One.

[@capricornus993]

Makes sense when you think about it- US is one of their biggest market whereas F1 is too diverse geographically

[@peeturpain9379]

@@capricornus993 ofcourse, japan would want to be associated with mediocrity, given they are the personification of mediorcrity.

[@robertkoeck3801]

Huh?

[@arandomguy3288]

@@peeturpain9379 wut?

[@michaelwilkie35]

@@peeturpain9379 lmao no. Japan is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world.

[@TSirsa82]

It's quite an interesting result when translating the average to the median. All though the order is the same, it shows clearly who has the best engine power in general, as the median doesn't take into account the possible tune-up of the engine power in isolated races. Results translated from average to the median: Ferrari 2 Honda 1 Merc 3,5 Alpine 3 Thank you for the great videos and the stories behind F1 curtains, all this is great fun and gives one more inside information about these cutting-edge machinery!

[@DChrls]

Honda has twice developed championship winning equipment only to sell it to a team one year before winning the championship, That's gotta hurt.

[@nathanstretch]

Notice that the Merc engine is mostly 4th right up until Spain, when it jumps to 2nd for Barcelona and Monaco-coinciding with when Mercedes figured out their porpoising. Only two weekends, so not long enough to be sure, but seems like evidence to support the theory that they had the engine turned down to save it for once they figured out the chassis issue.

[@550LMS]

After all these years F1 might finally have reached the pretty good engine parity we had in the last V8 era: Ferrari seemed to have the most peak horsepower at expensive of driveability, fuel consumption Mercedes had fantastic driveability (which really showed in wet races for any team using the Merc engine) Renault had the best fuel consumption, at the expense of peak power, but led to them using less fuel over a race stint and it ran cooler as well allowing for aggressive exhaust blowing. Cost a fair bit of money to reach this point, though...

[@brendankelly2653]

It's only $20 million 😁

[@550LMS]

@@brendankelly2653 Per engine...development costs start with a B. Per manufacturer. Lol.

[@brendankelly2653]

@@550LMS my goodness, that's like buying a country 😁

[@ktbeatty]

I think each have taken “a very slightly different” approach is my new favorite phrase. Very slightly different, perfect.

[@MichaelRoma91]

This is the content I want. I really didn’t hear or see much about the detail of each individual differences of the different development of engines of the merc, Renault, Red Bull pt (Honda) and Ferrari. It’s been a long time since 2014 when merc was far ahead and I wanted to know how much catch up the other engine makers have done

[@arjensmit6684]

Really? I was just looking to see if anyone in the comments was going to call out what a nonsence this video is. You can't measure engine power by the total performance of a car. There are so many more factors between engine power and the cars speed on track. If at least they would say "we made video comparing acceleration of the different cars" instead of claiming they compared horsepowers.

[@TheHarrie93]

I'm glad to see the engines in these cars being nearly equal. That means it's all up to the teams to build the best car and with the development stop, this means no excuses.

[@joanfernandez7635]

Honda power !!! ✅✅✅🔥🔥🔥

[@Cloxxki]

Is anything known about the gearings the PU makers have picked? Might the Alpine have found a sweet spot, by chance, in how the revs worked out on the Miami corners you looked at? With Baku in the books now, I wonder how visible Alpine's low drag setup was. Are they really slower off turn 16 from lower downforce and thus traction?

[@oceanbytez847]

The fact that honda was a mercedes rival speaks volumes about the brand. They hit up their with the champs!

[@philiphawkins4684]

A guy I know who have contacts within mercedes has told me that they are down on power compared to others engines.

[@faizanchoudhury6910]

cap

[@videoforum4047]

Source: trust me bro

[@bari2471]

at 11:32 you can see Ferrari has a different deployment of energy (more aggressive from 200 to 250kph). it is also not influenced by drag since you can see that above 250kph the Ferrari has more drag (relative drag between different cars does not change depending on speed), so it's not a very fair comparison the one you put

[@kwl189]

Scuderia Ferrari’s gearing and transmission is also slanted towards acceleration than sheer top speed.

[@bari2471]

@@kwl189 that is also true

[@kwl189]

@@bari2471 Think it’s safe to say we’ve debunked this video for what it is. A myth. I’d hope after all this time, the PUs have converged more or less on output. It would reflect very poorly on any team still suffering a serious deficient. Credit needs to go out to Honda after being oppressed by Mclaren.

[@robinmaas869]

@@kwl189 Ferrari is using a smaller turbo, so that’s why they are faster in accelerating

[@hape4]

@@robinmaas869 Simply untrue, a bigger turbo normally spools up slower. However these turbos are combined with an electric motor so they don’t have a lag. Acceleration at 200 km/h is depending on torque band but more so horsepower of the PU. Grip is only at lower speeds the limiting factor. If the Ferrari is accelerating faster at 200km/h you have your answer.

[@erasmus_locke]

I can't wait for F1 to switch to fully renewable fuels. Once they are carbon neutral there is no reason to switch to full electric and we get to keep our glorious screaming V6 turbos

[@sreeter01]

Glorious and screaming v6???

[@totalmadnesman]

Well about that. Now that Europe is going to kill ICE by 2035, expect Porsche and other manufacturers to shut down their programs as well.

[@KenaiTobin]

@@sreeter01 he is probably a new fan to f1 and doesn't know the history about the screaming v12s , v10s and v8s

[@ondracienciala7209]

@@KenaiTobin What are you on about, that redbull has beautiful sound, especially the burble when off the throtle

[@justsomemustachewithoutaguy-]

@@sreeter01 its not thatvthe current engines sound bad, they sound wonderfull. But Its just that the sound of the old v12's, v10's and v8's sounded like the voice of god telling the people the secret to a happy life

[@pat17681]

1:06 James Alisson did say it, so yeah

[@sam_6451]

Say what you want about Redbull reliability But they only switched to pu2 this week While Ferrari switched to pu2 3 races ago

[@kayak1995]

in monaco charles run pu1, now he's back to pu2- they cycle between engines in the pool depending on power demands of tracks, they did have to take new mgu-h as it blew up in spain

[@hiran4935]

Redbull PU is reliable anyway

[@nielsgilles4147]

@@kayak1995 also Charles is already using his 3 turbo which they are allowed to use 3. One more and it’s an gridpenalty.

[@jamesblackwood667]

Lec would also rather have the Redbull engine...

[@gringostarr69]

From where does Scarbs get all of his information. He is like an F1 encyclopedia!!

[@lborate3543]

11:31 those have to be some of the thickest tangent lines I have ever seen lol

[@coffeeguy2429]

Well, Ferrari now has THE BEST one

[@MrLeSa95]

Most explosive for sure

[@paulneri9923]

You mean the worst one (reliability concern)

[@Nqwilliams]

Honda: *spends years developing one of the best engines in f1* Also Honda: *leaves*

[@nagasako7]

Honda: *makes Double Diffuser concept* Honda: *leaves* Tldr Honda F1 team has always been contenders, but Honda board has been bean counters.

[@elgorgojo6048]

red bull with honda engine : hold my 20sec gap

[@sergioferrero46]

Reading the description, 1050 hp seems too optimistic to me. Lewis Hamilton's engine was said to have 1044hp at the 2021 Brazilian GP, ​​and it's clear that was the top figure that season. Add in the fact that E10 fuel was said to mean a 20hp drop by 2022, and 2022 engines will be hovering around 1000hp or even slightly below. Regardless of the total figures and regarding the power differences between manufacturers, AMuS declared at the beginning of the season that the Ferrari engine was the most powerful followed by the RB with 4 kW (5.4 hp) less, the Mercedes with 8 kW (10.8 hp ) and the Alpine with 12 kW (16.3 hp)

[@yaseensadan3277]

1. Honda 2. Ferrari 3. Alpine 4. Merc

[@vitor000000]

Surely it's not Ferrari

[@ronnie3196]

Here after watching the baku race. Ferrari went dnf beacuse of engine problems back to back in two races. And just a soft reminder, people were laughing on redbull engine reliability issues at the beginning of the season.

[@nanakiemi]

I don't like the idea of any rule changes mid season. Those never sit well with me. Something needs sorted for next season though such as a minimum ride height you can't go below or additional testing allowance over the winter to allow it to be tuned out better.

[@nicoyoung259]

Let's gooo alpine!! 💙💙

[@samsonlovesyou]

When Scarbs talks, it's like I can see actual numbers and equations coming out of his mouth. 🙃 Totally lost on me.

[@rellimck]

Hey, I think you should link to Jake O'Neil's brilliant video on how an F1 car works for using so much of his own 3d video in yours. I don't think you gave him enough credit.

[@Slimmeyy]

1. You spelled his name wrong (it's in the video). 2. His name and company name are literally shown in the video. 3. Almost nobody checks the description of videos. This is evident when youtubers do put information in the description, but many people still ask for said information in the comments.

[@rellimck]

@@Slimmeyy He goes by Jake in his video but I did misspell his last name. Look, I don't agree with you and this is my suggestion for this video. Thanks for your rebuttal but I think it takes five seconds of typing, and if a video has derivative elements, a portion of the description should be treated like a bibliography on a paper.

[@remilacroix122]

Could you make a part 2 to this video

[@MrZillaman73]

Merc had 1yr head start on hybrid era hence their dominance.

[@Slimmeyy]

@footballcoreano Why would they only show 70%? They're not winning races...

[@bravin_w]

@@Slimmeyy 8 constructors championship wins and 7wdcs and of course poaching of engineering

[@babamukuru666]

One thing that's missing (at least as a mention among the problems with the accuracy) are the gear ratios used by the teams

[@oldmossystone]

Yes - was thinking exactly this. Could make a big difference to the outcome of this type of analysis

[@Eeeeeeeeeeeethrdhydhuchu]

tbh i would be trying to add 3 engines combined into one and 3 mods one for dry one for medium one for a wet circuit

[@garantes9257]

where do you get this kind of data?

[@bazza2974]

Go to 2:32 to skip the in-video ad

[@valtarg1299]

Ferrari engine's is taking some hit the weekend

[@TomMY-dA-K1nG]

No renault on thumbnail?

[@Kualinar]

It's hard to compare engines. The acceleration depends on a lot of factors, like the tuning of the engine, the gear box and differential, the setting of the suspension, the weight of the car, the weight distribution, the aerodynamics, the driving style of the pilot, ...

[@RevolverRho]

Mercedes didn’t just come up with the tight engine, they were developing the Turbo Hybrid engines with the FIA. Let’s not pretend it’s anything else, no team during the last 6 years save for maybe 2017, 2018, and 2021 came close to Merc.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

The video is about history of engines lol.

[@Divebomb18]

It was told that Alpine turned down their engine in the beginning of the season due to relatability concerns. I guess they might start to show their actual pace.

[@migelprager1097]

"relatability concerns" ... wth is this mate ?!?

[@beanlentil]

@@migelprager1097 probably meant the concerns during pre-season testing

[@videoforum4047]

Ferrari did the same, they've been consistently upping the power and now its starting to fail on them

[@RogerMiller-td5yc]

Hamda went back to the cvcc engines non catalyst compliant tech. Bravo! It also served as an anti pre ignition.

[@simonleblanc4711]

I'm not sure why at @8:00 they show corona spark discharge when discussing the advanced ignition techniques used.

[@nazo294]

i feel like ferrari can pull off being the fastest engine provider

[@team_hunter3328]

They still have an engine upgrade laying down at maranello for silverstone

[@g-rafcreations6605]

@@team_hunter3328 so do Honda. Major ers upgrades for pu3

[@EntropicExergy]

Not with that unreliability of theirs. At Spain they pushed it a tad bit more on Charles' car and we all know how that ended. The rebadged Honda from RB will stay the fastest PU on the grid.

[@arthurmorgan9108]

@@EntropicExergy Japanese junk

[@EntropicExergy]

@@arthurmorgan9108 If it was junk it wouldn't be soundly beating both merc and ferrari. If anything german and italian junk is more fitting here.

[@SleepySriracha]

Honda: Long Pace throughout the GP Ferrari: Raw Pace Mercedes:Reliability out of the 3.

[@yannickvaz694]

Alpine: Exists.

[@Xanxii]

@@yannickvaz694 renault*

[@acspectre3130]

Could the sudden Mecedes performance drop this year, be more to do with the increase Bio-Fuel usage? 5% increased to 10%. I seem to remember there was quite a lot of talk about the high-performance fuel provided by Petronas! Just maybe it hasn't got as big a punch when diluted with bi-fuel!

[@shyamarvadia2542]

Where do you get all the data from?

[@danielmax3327]

The best are the V8, V10 and V12

[@peeturpain9379]

ew, no

[@paulhope3401]

Well, most spectacular sounding for sure... x10.

[@moneymonkeyman8280]

@@peeturpain9379 its fans like you that are ruining the sport

[@maseywat]

Na hand grenades from the 80's

[@xxxftcxxx]

@2:30 to skip the bullshit and ads after I just sat through 2x 0:15 second ads on the way in here. 😊

[@vortexluigirosalina5557]

Thanks

[@geert574]

What's an ad lol

[@anjo2]

I wonder if they would make rotary engines better than the current V6 if they were able to use them. The research of the rotary engines went down after being banned from the 24h of Le mans, but the potential is there.

[@lucas_evans2207]

In short it’s not a fair question as all engines are made for different purposes, even f1 engines

[@lukebennett.]

Ah yes alpine make it for back of the pack and Ferrari make it for a kitchen 💀

[@tahamian4822]

what a dumb thing to say

[@official_.d3]

We all can agree 2017 Honda engine was peek of performance

[@mr.jaco6526]

Definitely

[@itawolf2494]

No Ferrari Spa/Monza 2019 was peek.

[@grosano95]

@@itawolf2494 r/whooosh

[@andyharman3022]

Scarbs makes a good point about the Mercedes engine. I'm sure they haven't forgotten how to make power in this formula. Maybe they're saving the power for when they get the chassis figured out, then will turn up the wick late in the year. This allows points gathering due to reliability and no grid penalties. Ferrari is already in trouble, and the season isn't half over. The hybrid power units are so complex, having the IC engine, TERS, and KERS, I doubt that their knowledgeable engineers would be able to give you a straight answer. What mode are you asking me about? What tune for a specific track? What if we are harvesting energy on one lap to deploy on the next lap? Or maybe we saved fuel throughout the race and will use it to overdrive the turbogenerator by injecting on the exhaust stroke. They have a lot of ways to make power.

[@denzelw9664]

I hope you get a chance to ask them about the fuel flow sensor and why the car ran out of fuel in from memory Australia and why the car could complete the final run in that Q3 session because there wouldn’t be enough fuel for the maFIA to conduct their test. It take burning fuel to make power it’s that simple.

[@Ihelpanytime]

I don't understand why F1 teams wouldn't show us the results of a dino test to see power and torque (and their RPM range)

[@jedijackattack3594]

Because it also tells every other time that data. Which could let them work out some of there tricks and give there opponents more data on them to work into stratergy and setup.

[@asmith78100]

That's litteraly telling everyone there secret recipe. It happened in the turbo hybrid era where renault announced there engine had over 1000 hp an other teams tried to make some late tweak. Announcing your data is one of the most foolish moves of all time.

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[@simonpoiret]

It would be interesting to factor in the PU's mileage for each race. Loss of power over the PU's lifetime has been a serious issue since the beginning of this regulation. Now with the steel chambers, the loss has been mitigated but I believe it might be one of the differentiating factors between manufacturers. Perhaps even more so than the peak power this video is trying to estimate.

[@gutloja]

Do they all have the same GPS data resolution?

[@34Racingteam]

Merc.... if the other were reliable and finished the races we could have this conversation. I wonder how many more Hondas fail this year 🤔

[@EntropicExergy]

Since zero have failed as of yet, the number will probably stay at zero. Unless some piss poor racers try to bomb the RB's again like last year.

[@34Racingteam]

@@EntropicExergy hmmmm I guess he just quit then because he was told to park the shit...maybe I should have said how many more park the shits will we hear this year? 🤔

[@34Racingteam]

@@EntropicExergy only person gonna be piss poor is jos when Perez out runs max at Baku

[@EntropicExergy]

@@34Racingteam Since RB have fixed their fuel pump and hydraulics line issues, the answer stays zero. Move the goalposts all you want, RB will have no more DNF's they can be blamed for, only external influences could cause those. And Perez stands no chance in a race. Without his crash in q3 Monaco, Max would have already started in front of him, he was doing a faster lap only to be halted by the red flag. Max has a score to settle at Baku, and i have no doubt he will.

[@34Racingteam]

@@EntropicExergy lot of words from you Broke.... failure.... blew up ....ain't getting gas.....shit broke dude