Which F1 Team has the MOST POWER?

[@MannequinSmiles]

i will literally buy and ship scarbs a $100 usb mic if he agrees to use it.

[@waghak27]

??????

[@andresmcjr]

Bro what? 🤣

[@Atlas.Brooklyn]

@@andresmcjr scarbs is notorious for his dogwater quality microphone

[@PaulKentSkates]

Even a $20 smartphone lav would sound way better.

[@gurraglad]

MVP. I hope he agrees 😂

[@hattorihonzo8340]

Huge credit and respect to Honda. Developing an F1 power unit is so difficult in general let alone a truly competitive one (just look at how long it’s taken Renault/Alpine just to climb up the midfield) So to see them progress from the most laughed at engine supplier, to showing potential winning that first race in 2019, to now being arguably the strongest power unit in F1 in just a few years is such an insane achievement. You can tell they worked hard for that.

[@memolano100]

And such a shame they left right after the big achievement.

[@mizi_21]

​@@memolano100 Honda still there, but RBR take care more. You can still see HRC logo in that car. Its about money dude

[@jakeying8753]

@@memolano100 at least they are still helping with the engine although they aren’t really in F1

[@tomnewham1269]

I’m not convinced Honda has the strongest engine. The other engines might be turned down so as to finish strongly at the end of the season. But it is good that Honda now has a competitive engine and perhaps McLaren would have been better off if they had stuck with it.

[@PK-xu7gu]

@@tomnewham1269 They suffer the least losses as wear is added.

[@gpaje]

Honda Racing Company (HRC) are working on Red Bull's engine exclusively until the end of 2025, RBPT is working only on the future 2026 motors. They haven't had a single mechanical issue on the Red Bull cars this year so far except for a sensor issue on Perez's car, where he still finished 4th. Their 3 DNFs were caused by fuel tank vacuum issue and a broken fuel line, none of which were directly tired to the combustion engines or hybrid systems. Red Bull's PUs are probably the most reliable this year so far, their fuel systems however?

[@halofreak1990]

Pretty much like last year, with Red Bull only exceeding their allowed number of engines due to being torpedoed or otherwise ran off the track, and not through any fault of their own

[@gpaje]

@@halofreak1990 Exactly, Silverstone and the race after where they were mugged by Bottas hurt their engine allocation for the rest of the year.

[@slevingaius]

Wasnt surpised tbh although i did have doubts before the reveal of the results, afterall they are the engine supplier in Indycar too which already had been running on E10 fuels if im correct. Great to see Honda left no stone unturned, they made a masterpiece. I pressume they are still the smallest PU on the grid?

[@benfulford3943]

Are you aware of all the PU issues that alpha tauri have experienced? Yuki has retired at least twice because of drive train issues. I'm struggling to accept your exclusions with sensor and fuel line issues can't be counted as PU reliability. They've definitely struggled with reliability on their PUs. Way more than any of the Mercedes powered vehicles or Renault

[@beanot2622]

@@benfulford3943 Looks like they send Alpha Tauris the sloppy seconds.

[@Chyeahokay]

After seeing the alpines in Baku today, I am throughly impressed with their powerunit

[@peeturpain9379]

That is because they are running monza spec wing, way waaaaay less drag than the rest. Also could be running much higher engine modes.

[@michaeltelfer3483]

Basicaly no rear wing on the thing

[@かがさんかわいい]

They would perform great on qualify but maybe struggle long run in race because they only have tiny bit of down force.

[@MashiatCOD99]

@@かがさんかわいい Other way around.

[@areebsiddiqui758]

Alpine are running the least drag of any team. They're the slowest in the low speed corners but rapid down the straights.

[@billybobnaughtyknob895]

I think the 2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix tried to tell us that reliability is also important in determining who's got the best engine.

[@alegresharamae4151]

And after that we can say right now that mercedes have the best reliability.

[@Frozander]

@@alegresharamae4151 None of the RB PUs had reliability issues. All of their DNFs came from hydraulics and fuel pump related issues (standard part). As a car in general yeah Merc has the best reliability but in terms of PU RB still haven't had an issue.

[@snoopythedog3266]

@@Frozander DNF's are a problem. Apparently Covid which closed many of the sub factories working on the engines is giving some problems of reliability

[@F1Tom2005]

@@Frozander meanwhile Ferrari get to see their car blow up every few weeks

[@user-pc5qj2ix2c]

@@alegresharamae4151 Your comment didn't age well. RB is a class apart. it's a formula 1+ racing in the formula 1 class (like mercedes, ferrari and mclaren have managed in the past)

[@blacksterangel]

I don’t quite buy the theory that Mercedes engines are tuned down to improve reliability while waiting for chassis to improve. For Mercedes work team, it’s plausible. But Williams and Aston Martin? These guys would need all the help they could have to score points. And I think if the engine has a rocket mode they’d use it every weekend even if they end up using 5 engines in this season.

[@CJr_M]

It wouldn't make sense to use the highest engine performance if it's just going to worsen the cars driveability. That's what I've gotten from the performance from their engine this year. McLaren seem to have the more stable chassis and it's therefore the team that's more suitable to use this engine at it's best performing spec.

[@peeturpain9379]

in spain, with their new spec engine, they were the fastest in a straightline. This proved that they were running the engine in lower modes previously because of porpoising. Because there was hardly any porpoising in spain they could run it more optimally.

[@saberline152]

all the customer teams have to use the same settings as the team that provides the engine if I'm not mistaken, that's why it can hurt cars like Williams and AM more, the Mclaren seems to do better at times, the teams themselves have stated that their cars are just not optimal yet

[@arnoldmbuthia2687]

You sound like a Mercedes naysayer

[@simon9548]

@@peeturpain9379 no, they just had lower downforce setup than Ferrari and Redbull

[@abbasrizvi4953]

Honda has always pride itself by calling themselves Engine Manufacturers not Automakers.

[@mick8473]

Imagine if Honda weren't crippled by that stupid token system.

[@pauls5745]

it's funny they are ducking out but still not ducking out

[@MrGtubedude]

@@mick8473 u could say that about all the manufacturers…

[@abbasrizvi4953]

@@mick8473 I never quite understood how the token system played out. But I think Renault also was seriously affected by this. As I can recall it was put in effect in 2015 and was suppose to go all the way to 2020. I think Hondas come a long way, though their motor can be unrealiable at times but it's showing some serious results. Mercs with the most reliable engine is still 2/10th off the pace

[@Losthillz]

Respect to Honda. Came into the sport late and still beat the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari engines.

[@brendankelly2653]

Brother, if one thing Honda knows how to do, it's engines. Even Honda lawnmowers are good and reliable 😁

[@Tansle620]

huh? They have been in an out of the sport since the 60's

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

@@brendankelly2653 no one makes the kind of power from a litre engine, they way honda does. The Vtec kicks in yo!

[@guccipucci69420]

Lol what do you mean came late and beat them? They joined McLaren in 2015 a year after the engine rule change and had absolutely dismal pace, 2020 was the start of them catching up

[@cafesociety8525]

@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 I mean they make the least powerful 1000cc bikes so...

[@christianorsa]

these engines are so fascinating & complex for someone who doesn't know that much about these things.

[@964cuplove]

Please please dive deeper into,all the technical details in the engine, pre-ignition the funny crank assembly, the inter coolers etc. etc I’d love to get more insight into all of these things !!!

[@namenamename390]

When the Renault (Alpine) engine isn't even in the thubmnail El Pain

[@aayush9437]

That was the first thing I noticed :((

[@eoincassin4265]

There is no Red Bull engine...RBR even announced that the engine plan changed and that the engines are purely Honda made and maintained this year. This is why Marko was saying that Red Bull ENGINES will be a new engine manufacturer in 2026. Honda at Sakura will be taking care of these until then.

[@daferrarifan]

Remembering how powerful the BMW engine was back in the days at Williams I'm curious as to what kinda PU they'd come up with today

[@shapshooter7769]

1050 hp for today's turbo V6 is not bad especially for that fact they run cleaner and more reliably than the turbo beasts in the 80's.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@shapshooter7769 what he means is, how good a modern turbo hybrid v6 bmw engine would be. the bmw v10 had apparently 810hp

[@shapshooter7769]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Yep, and the 80's BMW V6 made 1200 bhp on race trim

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@shapshooter7769 (x) maximum doubt. those numbers are ridiculously inflated.

[@matiasfpm]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD nope. Those monsters could destroy dinamos 🤣

[@michaela8367]

Not bad for a GP2 engine

[@valgoyt912]

😬

[@adammcloude6642]

😂😂

[@beanlentil]

actual gp2 (f2) engines today: utter shite

[@Joselu22]

Only took them 7 years to be competitive, not bad.

[@kevinilhamapriandy619]

@@Joselu22 It takes time to become the best, even ferrari has to cheat lol

[@GelsonMwale]

I love your videos. Truly appreciate the massive effort in producing them.

[@MichaelRoma91]

To think that Honda was a meme a few years back (GP2!!) and how it is on top right now is pretty impressive

[@arcelivez]

Naaah man - it's Redbull Power Trains now! They chose it themselves...

[@nonameyet2205]

@@arcelivez Redbull powertrain is just rebranded Honda engine, you can clearly see HRC (honda racing) logo on their car 🤦

[@onxon8611]

Honda bro..

[@arcelivez]

@@nonameyet2205 dude... You can't see Honda's logo on their car - which is the whole point - it means Honda is not being represented - that despite the engine of course having mainly been developed by it and probably produced by them and bring good. So no dude, there isn't a Honda logo on the car anywhere - the Honda logo you're referring to is from the last years, not this years, now it's "bybit" where it was Honda... 🤦 It's also much more than just rebranding in this case or at least will be on the future, they've been working hard last year to bring the engine development from Japan into the UK (or at least for the most part)

[@yes0011]

@@arcelivez hrc logo on the back. and honda logo on the engine. they still using honda powerunit/engine but not with honda workmanship

[@Richard-Gore]

I think the advantage of Honda PU, is not the power, but the size. Honda made their PU compact and lightweight, and it was originally designed for 22 car, but did well also in 21 car. Mercedes on the other hand, focus on pure power, the size of the engine may force them to compromise chassis design.

[@abhaykiran7325]

armchair engineer detected opinion rejected (its a yoke dont get salty)

[@guaranteedgenius7895]

"A very slightly different approach" love it

[@henriwolbrink]

As it was known that 2022 engine development would be Frozen in March. Honda made an era (2022 to 2026) deciding decision to bring 2022 engine forward to 2021 season. Sadly Max couldn't bring in the manufacturers title for Honda on his own. All respect for Checo today. But he clearly underestimated the RedBull package. When he mentioned that he would need 5 races to get on par with the RedBull car. And let us at last not forget the efforts of Mobil oil. The whole package has to work.

[@ierbutza21]

Weird how some dont think the alpine (renault) engines are good,people forget renault had good PU .

[@filipealmeida5511]

tell that to Alonso. 3 PU in 4/5 races

[@LouSassol69er]

Unreliable so far though.

[@nagasako7]

Redbull is loving HONDA down in Baku straight. Its pace pushed Ferraris to overheat and blow at halfway mark.

[@dy7296]

It's fascinating to know how out of 10 or more past engine suppliers out there, only 4 remained.

[@justanotherday9904]

I guess you might want to change the Ferrari one after Baku.

[@Sethm411]

Guys, I find this video absolutely fascinating considering what we've seen in these first handful of grand prixs. also, that high resolution shot of all 10 front ends is very very cool for comparing the differences in each team, I paused the video and stared at it for probably 10 minutes. please keep up the great work, I'm a big fan of the content!

[@maverickstclare3756]

grands prix, not grand prixs

[@janne-mans8295]

In 2021 Merc did a trick Using early enough engines, to be replaced and then reused without penalty. It is a stochastic approach to the regulations. So they knew they could turn up the power levels, as they had precalculated all engines would be optimally used for the highest output if required. Yet with higher power level comes wear of pressure seals, causing loss of performance, earlier in the engine life cycle. Honda took a more conventional approach, preserving less wear on seals to maintain full pressure. It is a gamble, that almost paid out for Merc. All is a matter of compromises. Who overall makes the best most reliable choices, to be in play at every last 15 laps of a race, is king in almost all races, except for the odd 4 tracks maybe. Yet the 4 to 5 odd tracks do not count, as long as you secure podiums on all the other tracks. So you can have the fastests, most powerful engine, yet it may not pay off due to not being there with optimal pressure, when it counts: the 15 final laps. It is a percentage game projected over an entire season.

[@RedDwarfNerd]

I thought the Renault had been looking a decent PU this year, great to see it laid out with data!

[@robinmaas869]

you don't even take Renault seriously, this year's engine is completely new compared to last year. And you can’t take this vid serious, Ferrari is using a smaller turbo so automatically are faster at acceleration and slower at topspeed, and you ignore topspeed

[@kwl189]

Exactly. Renault went down the split turbo route and tightened up on their packaging. Fair play to them as they have quickly got their shit together after so many poor season. Ricciardo should have stayed with the team. Him and Fernando would be possibly better than Ocon and Fernando.

[@iikcorleone7279]

Haha..i find it funny when someone say "Ferrari ahead of honda by 10 hp", or "honda is the most powerful engine" or "now alpine beat mercedes in raw hp" or "merc is the slowest engine now"Etc.. The fact is f1 engine performance has a lot of thing beside HP figure Like eficieny,heat management,hybrid system,combustion stability etc.. Best PU could be slightly down on power to Second best PU or worst PU could possible had a better ICE than the best one etc..but the overal performance that matter..hence why there is no clear cut to decide which of the 4 manufacture is the best

[@devo196047]

Only 15 horsepower difference, but I'm sure 15 horsepower can really make a paint job go fast.

[@alecrl1]

Great insight. I have been saying to mates that if you where in Mercs position you would save the engine for when you have a chassis to extract the performance.

[@jackwong2253]

After watching the race in Baku, I finally realised the reliability of an engine is the point of matter. RIP for all dead ferrari engine.

[@drilled4798]

Would love to see performance comparison of the toptier cars of each era speciacally the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s to one and another. Both stats and track times, would be prima content..! @driver61

[@nathanstretch]

Notice that the Merc engine is mostly 4th right up until Spain, when it jumps to 2nd for Barcelona and Monaco-coinciding with when Mercedes figured out their porpoising. Only two weekends, so not long enough to be sure, but seems like evidence to support the theory that they had the engine turned down to save it for once they figured out the chassis issue.

[@TheDuck6363]

Just found your show, I found it great to watch before the race Sunday. I will keep watching,well done sir

[@550LMS]

After all these years F1 might finally have reached the pretty good engine parity we had in the last V8 era: Ferrari seemed to have the most peak horsepower at expensive of driveability, fuel consumption Mercedes had fantastic driveability (which really showed in wet races for any team using the Merc engine) Renault had the best fuel consumption, at the expense of peak power, but led to them using less fuel over a race stint and it ran cooler as well allowing for aggressive exhaust blowing. Cost a fair bit of money to reach this point, though...

[@brendankelly2653]

It's only $20 million 😁

[@550LMS]

@@brendankelly2653 Per engine...development costs start with a B. Per manufacturer. Lol.

[@brendankelly2653]

@@550LMS my goodness, that's like buying a country 😁

[@stevel9627]

Not surprised by the Honda engine being the fastest despite a few guys in another vid trying to argue with me it wasn't. Seeing the Renault right up there though i think needs more praise and having all teams be so close means these next few years are going to be great for the sport provided teams can sort out the porpoising

[@kingalfred3902]

Only a few years ago ...Honda engined cars came nowhere ......now with RB they win ...!!!!..Why is that ...??? Because the RB has the best package ..( without the engine )......and then there is ....MAX...!!!!!!.....No maths needed...!!.

[@stevel9627]

@@kingalfred3902 yeah and we all saw the RB with the package when they had a Renault v6 engine. World beaters weren’t they. No maths needed indeed

[@DChrls]

Honda has twice developed championship winning equipment only to sell it to a team one year before winning the championship, That's gotta hurt.

[@user-pc5qj2ix2c]

The more advanced technology gets, the more organic it looks. Shower thoughts, maybe something did create life.

[@philiphawkins4684]

A guy I know who have contacts within mercedes has told me that they are down on power compared to others engines.

[@faizanchoudhury6910]

cap

[@videoforum4047]

Source: trust me bro

[@oceanbytez847]

The fact that honda was a mercedes rival speaks volumes about the brand. They hit up their with the champs!

[@highthai7]

Do the Honda F1 engines have VTEC?

[@deepalikarekar2262]

Ig so

[@acuro9272]

No

[@przemoa.1672]

yes there is something like that

[@TSirsa82]

It's quite an interesting result when translating the average to the median. All though the order is the same, it shows clearly who has the best engine power in general, as the median doesn't take into account the possible tune-up of the engine power in isolated races. Results translated from average to the median: Ferrari 2 Honda 1 Merc 3,5 Alpine 3 Thank you for the great videos and the stories behind F1 curtains, all this is great fun and gives one more inside information about these cutting-edge machinery!

[@the-real-zpero]

I recently started working at Caterpillar in the gas fuel engine division and the other day I actually learned about pre-chamber ignition at work. Really interesting that I'm also hearing about it in a F1 KZbin channel 😁

[@CJr_M]

I find it rather interesting that Honda would rather be affiliated with Indy Car and not Formula One.

[@capricornus993]

Makes sense when you think about it- US is one of their biggest market whereas F1 is too diverse geographically

[@peeturpain9379]

@@capricornus993 ofcourse, japan would want to be associated with mediocrity, given they are the personification of mediorcrity.

[@robertkoeck3801]

Huh?

[@arandomguy3288]

@@peeturpain9379 wut?

[@michaelwilkie35]

@@peeturpain9379 lmao no. Japan is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world.

[@TheHarrie93]

I'm glad to see the engines in these cars being nearly equal. That means it's all up to the teams to build the best car and with the development stop, this means no excuses.

[@sam_6451]

Say what you want about Redbull reliability But they only switched to pu2 this week While Ferrari switched to pu2 3 races ago

[@kayak1995]

in monaco charles run pu1, now he's back to pu2- they cycle between engines in the pool depending on power demands of tracks, they did have to take new mgu-h as it blew up in spain

[@hiran4935]

Redbull PU is reliable anyway

[@nielsgilles4147]

@@kayak1995 also Charles is already using his 3 turbo which they are allowed to use 3. One more and it’s an gridpenalty.

[@helloitsme3940]

I didnt understand a lot of things in this vid but surely enjoyable!

[@joanfernandez7635]

Honda power !!! ✅✅✅🔥🔥🔥

[@Ronny999x]

Bernie Ecclestone said Mercedes was helped by the FIA to stop Red Bull domination. I know his reputation isn't great lately. But he claimed this years ago. Has it ever been investigated? Should Ricciardo be 2014 Champion?

[@patrick17_6]

wtf

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Like you said, Ecclestone's rep isn't great, that's all that needs to be said about that.

[@Ronny999x]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Yeah but back then he was F1 Boss and had a better Reputation. So it still should be investigated.

[@Euclides287]

@@Ronny999x Nothing but bullshit.

[@AZBCDEE]

You’re just a salty Dutch stop crying about something that happened 8 years ago 🤣 🤣 too funny

[@ktbeatty]

I think each have taken “a very slightly different” approach is my new favorite phrase. Very slightly different, perfect.

[@nicoyoung259]

Let's gooo alpine!! 💙💙

[@andyharman3022]

Scarbs makes a good point about the Mercedes engine. I'm sure they haven't forgotten how to make power in this formula. Maybe they're saving the power for when they get the chassis figured out, then will turn up the wick late in the year. This allows points gathering due to reliability and no grid penalties. Ferrari is already in trouble, and the season isn't half over. The hybrid power units are so complex, having the IC engine, TERS, and KERS, I doubt that their knowledgeable engineers would be able to give you a straight answer. What mode are you asking me about? What tune for a specific track? What if we are harvesting energy on one lap to deploy on the next lap? Or maybe we saved fuel throughout the race and will use it to overdrive the turbogenerator by injecting on the exhaust stroke. They have a lot of ways to make power.

[@jamesblackwood667]

Lec would also rather have the Redbull engine...

[@ptviwatcher]

Acceleration also depends on gear ratios. It's hard to say if Honda or Alpine are really stronger engines, or if they have more aggressive lower gearing. Because the choice of gearing is also influenced by aerodynamics, since a more streamlined car may, in a fast track, opt for less aggressive gearing and higher top speed. Lots of variables, BUT great job on the entire analysis! With available info, what you got is really the best data driven conclusions possible!

[@bari2471]

at 11:32 you can see Ferrari has a different deployment of energy (more aggressive from 200 to 250kph). it is also not influenced by drag since you can see that above 250kph the Ferrari has more drag (relative drag between different cars does not change depending on speed), so it's not a very fair comparison the one you put

[@kwl189]

Scuderia Ferrari’s gearing and transmission is also slanted towards acceleration than sheer top speed.

[@bari2471]

@@kwl189 that is also true

[@kwl189]

@@bari2471 Think it’s safe to say we’ve debunked this video for what it is. A myth. I’d hope after all this time, the PUs have converged more or less on output. It would reflect very poorly on any team still suffering a serious deficient. Credit needs to go out to Honda after being oppressed by Mclaren.

[@robinmaas869]

@@kwl189 Ferrari is using a smaller turbo, so that’s why they are faster in accelerating

[@hape4]

@@robinmaas869 Simply untrue, a bigger turbo normally spools up slower. However these turbos are combined with an electric motor so they don’t have a lag. Acceleration at 200 km/h is depending on torque band but more so horsepower of the PU. Grip is only at lower speeds the limiting factor. If the Ferrari is accelerating faster at 200km/h you have your answer.

[@cp4512]

With cars so close on performance, this season really is a ‘drivers’ championship for the first time in years.

[@yaseensadan3277]

1. Honda 2. Ferrari 3. Alpine 4. Merc

[@ronnie3196]

Here after watching the baku race. Ferrari went dnf beacuse of engine problems back to back in two races. And just a soft reminder, people were laughing on redbull engine reliability issues at the beginning of the season.

[@samsonlovesyou]

When Scarbs talks, it's like I can see actual numbers and equations coming out of his mouth. 🙃 Totally lost on me.

[@benjieking3138]

Subscribed. Your videos are awesome and the man who breaks down the vehicle engine and everything about these videos explains all the reasons why I adore F1.

[@coffeeguy2429]

Well, Ferrari now has THE BEST one

[@MrLeSa95]

Most explosive for sure

[@paulneri9923]

You mean the worst one (reliability concern)

[@Kualinar]

It's hard to compare engines. The acceleration depends on a lot of factors, like the tuning of the engine, the gear box and differential, the setting of the suspension, the weight of the car, the weight distribution, the aerodynamics, the driving style of the pilot, ...

[@valtarg1299]

Ferrari engine's is taking some hit the weekend

[@mediascapes2011]

Topic request, could you give a talk about car set-up, quail, race, and race and team strategies impacting set-up. Thank you

[@bazza2974]

Go to 2:32 to skip the in-video ad

[@gringostarr69]

From where does Scarbs get all of his information. He is like an F1 encyclopedia!!

[@babamukuru666]

One thing that's missing (at least as a mention among the problems with the accuracy) are the gear ratios used by the teams

[@oldmossystone]

Yes - was thinking exactly this. Could make a big difference to the outcome of this type of analysis

[@ch4.hayabusa]

6:50 Super Fast Matt was complaining that race-tech rarely makes it on the streets... Which is true, but doesn't have to be. With the right rules you can align incentives to benefit everyone. Rather than using fuel as coolant in like top fuel dragsters, forcing engineers to make their engines somewhat efficient helps us all.

[@erasmus_locke]

I can't wait for F1 to switch to fully renewable fuels. Once they are carbon neutral there is no reason to switch to full electric and we get to keep our glorious screaming V6 turbos

[@sreeter01]

Glorious and screaming v6???

[@totalmadnesman]

Well about that. Now that Europe is going to kill ICE by 2035, expect Porsche and other manufacturers to shut down their programs as well.

[@KenaiTobin]

@@sreeter01 he is probably a new fan to f1 and doesn't know the history about the screaming v12s , v10s and v8s

[@ondracienciala7209]

@@KenaiTobin What are you on about, that redbull has beautiful sound, especially the burble when off the throtle

[@justsomemustachewithoutaguy-]

@@sreeter01 its not thatvthe current engines sound bad, they sound wonderfull. But Its just that the sound of the old v12's, v10's and v8's sounded like the voice of god telling the people the secret to a happy life

[@TheHjkkkl]

I want an update on this subject plzzzz 😁

[@vitor000000]

Surely it's not Ferrari

[@RogerMiller-td5yc]

Hamda went back to the cvcc engines non catalyst compliant tech. Bravo! It also served as an anti pre ignition.

[@przemoa.1672]

Honda Powerrrrr 🔥🇯🇵❤️

[@adzik1302]

What I think matters is how differently cars are geared. When I have watched comparison of qualifying laps between ferrari and red bull, red bull seems to have longer gears mid range whereas ferrari goes quicker through the gears up to 7th and 8th.

[@itawolf2494]

On some tracks the Ferrari dont even get to use the 8th gear they started the season with a low/medium ratio gearbox,not sure when Ferrari will change to the medium/high ratio gearbox,or from Siverstone or maybe Spa/Monza,the teams can only change their gearbox ratios once during the season.

[@adzik1302]

@@itawolf2494 no, I think teams have to choose gearing for the entire season in pre season testing, but I'm not 100 percent sure

[@MrZillaman73]

Merc had 1yr head start on hybrid era hence their dominance.

[@Slimmeyy]

@footballcoreano Why would they only show 70%? They're not winning races...

[@Bravin_Joshua]

@@Slimmeyy 8 constructors championship wins and 7wdcs and of course poaching of engineering

[@matthewd6306]

Peak power isn't the whole picture. TQ and low rpm HP are very important.

[@SkiRacingOz]

Yeh, the Ferraris are so torquey that they short shift the first few gears

[@Divebomb18]

It was told that Alpine turned down their engine in the beginning of the season due to relatability concerns. I guess they might start to show their actual pace.

[@migelprager1097]

"relatability concerns" ... wth is this mate ?!?

[@beanlentil]

@@migelprager1097 probably meant the concerns during pre-season testing

[@videoforum4047]

Ferrari did the same, they've been consistently upping the power and now its starting to fail on them

[@patrick17_6]

1:06 James Alisson did say it, so yeah

[@danielmax3327]

The best are the V8, V10 and V12

[@peeturpain9379]

ew, no

[@paulhope3401]

Well, most spectacular sounding for sure... x10.

[@moneymonkeyman8280]

@@peeturpain9379 its fans like you that are ruining the sport

[@maseywat]

Na hand grenades from the 80's

[@MichaelRoma91]

This is the content I want. I really didn’t hear or see much about the detail of each individual differences of the different development of engines of the merc, Renault, Red Bull pt (Honda) and Ferrari. It’s been a long time since 2014 when merc was far ahead and I wanted to know how much catch up the other engine makers have done

[@arjensmit6684]

Really? I was just looking to see if anyone in the comments was going to call out what a nonsence this video is. You can't measure engine power by the total performance of a car. There are so many more factors between engine power and the cars speed on track. If at least they would say "we made video comparing acceleration of the different cars" instead of claiming they compared horsepowers.

[@Nqwilliams]

Honda: *spends years developing one of the best engines in f1* Also Honda: *leaves*

[@nagasako7]

Honda: *makes Double Diffuser concept* Honda: *leaves* Tldr Honda F1 team has always been contenders, but Honda board has been bean counters.

[@Cloxxki]

Is anything known about the gearings the PU makers have picked? Might the Alpine have found a sweet spot, by chance, in how the revs worked out on the Miami corners you looked at? With Baku in the books now, I wonder how visible Alpine's low drag setup was. Are they really slower off turn 16 from lower downforce and thus traction?

[@SleepySriracha]

Honda: Long Pace throughout the GP Ferrari: Raw Pace Mercedes:Reliability out of the 3.

[@yannickvaz694]

Alpine: Exists.

[@Xanxii]

@@yannickvaz694 renault*

[@Eeeeeeeeeeeethrdhydhuchu]

tbh i would be trying to add 3 engines combined into one and 3 mods one for dry one for medium one for a wet circuit

[@nazo294]

i feel like ferrari can pull off being the fastest engine provider

[@team_hunter3328]

They still have an engine upgrade laying down at maranello for silverstone

[@g-rafcreations6605]

@@team_hunter3328 so do Honda. Major ers upgrades for pu3

[@EntropicExergy]

Not with that unreliability of theirs. At Spain they pushed it a tad bit more on Charles' car and we all know how that ended. The rebadged Honda from RB will stay the fastest PU on the grid.

[@arthurmorgan9108]

@@EntropicExergy Japanese junk

[@EntropicExergy]

@@arthurmorgan9108 If it was junk it wouldn't be soundly beating both merc and ferrari. If anything german and italian junk is more fitting here.

[@arktopleura]

red bull with honda engine : hold my 20sec gap

[@official_.d3]

We all can agree 2017 Honda engine was peek of performance

[@mr.jaco6526]

Definitely

[@itawolf2494]

No Ferrari Spa/Monza 2019 was peek.

[@grosano95]

@@itawolf2494 r/whooosh

[@bmw867]

Honda engines ❤❤

[@lucas_evans2207]

In short it’s not a fair question as all engines are made for different purposes, even f1 engines

[@lukebennett.]

Ah yes alpine make it for back of the pack and Ferrari make it for a kitchen 💀

[@tahamian4822]

what a dumb thing to say

[@paporeto575]

Honda motor is the more powerfull, reliable, light and compact. It provide Red Bull can use more downforce because on the straights they still faster, and when open DRS the motor makes the big difference. How this motors will be used until 2025. Red Bull will win 2024 and 2025 F1 championship. Honda has made a perfectly motor!

[@RevolverRho]

Mercedes didn’t just come up with the tight engine, they were developing the Turbo Hybrid engines with the FIA. Let’s not pretend it’s anything else, no team during the last 6 years save for maybe 2017, 2018, and 2021 came close to Merc.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

The video is about history of engines lol.

[@Steinstra-vj7wl]

Red Bull Honda !

[@martinmomu9141]

GOOD Video; Everyone Needs More Than Thier Basic Salary To Be Financially Secured, The Best Thing To do With Your Money Is To Invest, Money Left In Savings Always End Up Used With No Returns

[@betheluktu7647]

Agree with you digital currencies that were once viewed as mysterious by many in the past went sky high making millions of dollars for a lot of people including I. It'll definitely do that soon

[@charles2395]

I wanted to invest more in crypto, but the fluctuations in crypto value discouraged me into dumping.

[@opaljeremiahkyle3505]

@@charles2395 Crypto trading is the best investment anyone could get into. As it could make you rich in a blink of an eye, trading with an expert is the only key to successful trading

[@leither-truth4414]

I have heard a lot about investments with Mr Arjun B Jagat and how good is he, please how safe are the profits?

[@vaztrevorknox4203]

@@leither-truth4414 he's good and guaranteed, with his strategy you get to see crypto trade from a different angle.. Trading with him is all about winning and he's a certified broker with both ASIC and FINRA

[@meejinhuang]

Ferrari looks to have a little more than others. RB and Mercedes are not far behind. The chassis setup is a bigger variable.

[@KKSky369]

Both the engine and car as a whole

[@hbgstorm]

I still like the turbo monsters from the 80s much better, 1200-1400hp 😍 and turbo lag, and manual cars. Much more difficult. And finally is proof that hamilton wasn't that superior as people thought, now the cars are more equal than ever.

[@BeastMastery]

His car has legit been a bouncing castle....

[@ConnorH2111]

Dont feed the troll.

[@team_hunter3328]

@@BeastMastery and not for russel ?!?!

[@BeastMastery]

@@team_hunter3328 alot less, they handled his car better. And Russel is used to driving junkyard cars

[@hbgstorm]

@Mohd Aiman Azrie Nasarudin yes but some drivers aren't lucky enough to have the most wealthy team so many years, some of them only won 1 or 2 championships like alonso and still concidered to be one of the best drivers ever. When it comes to f1 you can't compare drivers cause its always what if and what if. Senna has only 3 world championships and also concidered to be the greatest ever, and by 1992 mclaren became crap and so was 1993 when williams was the best and just when senna got williams 1994 that year williams car was nowhere near the 1993 williams car. So its very hard to know which driver would win cause in f1 its the teams thats in the competition who has more money and best ideas for the cars. They should make 1 year totally equal cars like in f2, but it would be to late hamilton and vettel are not in their peak they're to old over 35years.

[@anjo2]

I wonder if they would make rotary engines better than the current V6 if they were able to use them. The research of the rotary engines went down after being banned from the 24h of Le mans, but the potential is there.

[@Palmboom313]

Ferrari defiantly not, so unreliable. Mercedes isn't fast but it is reliable.

[@Ny_babs]

11:31 those have to be some of the thickest tangent lines I have ever seen lol

[@dia6olo64]

Ferrari have had 5 poles out of 7, some very comfortable and the two that went to RBR were Jeddah (Perez) by the smallest of margins, who went on to say he wouldn't be able to repeat it if he tried another thousand times, meanwhile Leclerc went on to say he had more pace and left some on the table. The other was Max at Imola which turned out to be a non event as far as Q3 goes due to rapidly changing weather and constant red flags. So based on multiple Q3's which cover slow corners, fast corners, straights, draggier cars, less draggier cars, traction this, traction that and were the cars are balls to wall it is very clear to me that this analysis is being very selective with the data. It is VERY easy to pick and choose the data one wants to show to paint a picture one wants others to see, a lap requires one uses the entire data for all the lap not just the bits that happen to validate ones views...

[@robbienl8176]

1. Ferrari 2. Mercedes 3. Rbpt 4. renault But they are closer than ever.