Let’s see different tail designs! Swallow/squash/pin.
@georgeconavay51873 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kale this video cleared up some questions for me. I find your videos very helpful. I'm 71 and haven't surfed in a long time, learning all over again. It's not like riding a bicycle,
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
You’ve got this!
@trainwhistlesrule3 жыл бұрын
Even if a particular board has 5 fin boxes, it may work better as a thruster OR as a quad, depending on the shape of the board, rocker and tail etc. So, it kinda depends on the board and the conditions as well. The best way to get your board dialed is to do what Kale does in this video and switch off setups in a session. Do it on different days with different conditions. That's what's going to tell you the most about your equipment. Also, some fin designs work differently than others. If you're a beginner, you'll likely not feel much difference but as you become more advanced and demand more particulars and performance out of your equipment, you'll start to notice when you're equipment isn't right for the conditions because ultimately, you want to be matching your equipment to the conditions you're surfing.
@chuckup52413 жыл бұрын
The best 'fins explained' talk I have heard.
@bryan-anthonyalberto47213 жыл бұрын
Can you Please do a video about surfboard tail shapes what each of them do and in wich kind of waves they are made for.
@albertofdz48963 жыл бұрын
Check out surf simply’s video
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@bryan-anthonyalberto47213 жыл бұрын
@@albertofdz4896 yeah but he doesn’t explain it that well as kale would.
@albertofdz48963 жыл бұрын
True
@joeytaylor87673 жыл бұрын
I agree. Board tails video!
@robertical3 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. I would probably never try to do the whole lot in a session to compare and all the info that you gave us was very valuable. Maybe to complete the fin series, you could try different types, plastic, fibreglass, size difference, performance fins... And give more info on the type of waves for the combination.
@waikikiki-chan46093 жыл бұрын
The 2nd fin setup was a "2+1" set up. Large center and 2 smaller sides. To make a "thruster" set up on that particular board, you needed to find a 3 - 3.5" center box fin. Also it would have been great to see a review of a Twin-Stabi set up ( two large sides and a tiny trailer ).
@GGGinJe2 жыл бұрын
@Gus C. Nope. Waikiki Ki-Chan is correct. 2 large side fins with a small center fin is a twinnie with a trailer.
@maca5645 Жыл бұрын
It is derisively known as C0ck & Balls by Longboarders
@sunovadistributionn.z.693 Жыл бұрын
@Andrew incorrect
@sunovadistributionn.z.693 Жыл бұрын
@Andrew on earth its not a guess
@tannergauge93743 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I learned using a twin set up. Back in the late 80s early 90s there weren’t a lot of options. When I got a board that came with a truster set up though I was hooked, and I thought it looked cooler which was just as important back then😎.
@liamdougherty83303 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about how to upgrade the soft mushy fins on my foamie but had no idea about fins, literally best timing for this video!!!
@NicollasVerneck3 жыл бұрын
May I give you a suggestion to improve your videos? if you add an polarizer filter to your lens when you film in days like this where sun is right above and the sea has so much texture , it will cut down the reflections making the light more even. Anyway, I never really learned how to use the thruster set up so I usually remove the middle fin for extra speed on my 6'6 hybrid fish. I only put the middle fin back if its head high waves because I assume it will give me more stability. My main issue is two factors. One, my backfoot never lands on the grip pad, it's always right infront of it so I don't get to use pivoting anyway. Two, I seem to have a really bad habit of being aheavy backfooter. everytime I catch a wave with this board specially on small days I noticed I don't really drop in, I tend to stallthen do a mediocre bottom turn by trimming and try to catch up with the wave. that seems to only happen with my 6'6 regardless of fin set up. I have ripped on a 8ft foamie with thruster set up no problem.
@dougharrison38433 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see you falling off like a regular , rather than making yourself look impeccable in the edit. Thumbs up for leaving the ego out if it👍
@shannonyoung53823 жыл бұрын
I use the Mark Richards 2+1 set up in a lot of my groveler board’s. For weaker / deeper waves, 3-4ft & under. Get tons of speed & a loose skatey feel. You can still throw the tail around & the 180’s & 360’s at will & still have a lil’ hold if ya need it.
@1royalwolf3 жыл бұрын
I’ve often heard that the quad fin generated speed but have never heard why. Was interesting to hear it creates less drag without the center fin of a thruster. Great info and vid again mate🤙
@foxgd88 Жыл бұрын
More fin base less drag
@johnanderson37313 жыл бұрын
Hey Kale - saw you at wave pool yesterday night - did you try the new advanced settings? Can’t wait to see your footage
@robinhewlett78783 жыл бұрын
Hey Kale, I surf a 5 fin setup. So I’ve got FCS PC-5 fins at the front FCS G-XQ back fins and the FCS VS Knubster as a small keel stabilizer fin. It’s fast stable and smooth. Any chance you can test this setup and give feedback? I’ve seen Kelly Slater use the FCS VS knubster as the 5th fin too. Bit more hold then a quad but still fast. 🤙
@chrisfindlay59632 жыл бұрын
This has been the best and most simple guide to fin setups. It was easy to see the video backing up your comments on each setup. Great stuff, much appreciated!
@jaimehagadorn14593 жыл бұрын
I was literally just thinking and researching about fin set up, as I have just bought my second board today! It won't come in until mid April, but it's on order now. I am downsizing...finally...from my 1st board, which is an NSP E2 7'6 to the NSP Elements Fish 6'4 in purple. My other board has been holding me back for a while now from working on turns so it was long overdue. I bought the Carissa Moore Dakine tail pad in pink, purple & white stripes with a white FCS 6' leash. The board comes with a thruster set up of fins, but has slots ride it as a quad or twin, so I figured I'd get used to it this way first and then work my way through the different fin styles as I gain more experience on this board to make it more challenging. That way I'm good & ready before I move down in sizes again to a board that is the exact right height & volume match for me. I went with a bit more volume & height then I needed this time because I'm already dropping a 1'2" down & going from a 55 volume to a 40.2 volume. I'm 5'2 and thanks to a few extra pounds from this past covid quarentine year 130lbs, so by the time I need another board I'll be back into shape & need to drop about another foot to get to the proper volume for me at that point of experience & weight. Thanks Kale for all your helpful tips over the last few years. I always learn so much from you that I continue to implement into my surfing.
@stephenoconnor14593 жыл бұрын
The side by side comparisons are brilliant
@nizoalnahlawi40483 жыл бұрын
Super helpful thanks BROccoli
@thefisherking783 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! My latest add was a 6'6" quad fish for groveling in the Gulf of Mexico.. not the best waves but better than no surf at all, and that board has definitely been a fun addition for typical days here.
@jamesetal708810 ай бұрын
I cannot think of a way to make this video any better. I wish I had found it sooner. TY
@JessforR2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I have a quad fin surf sled and also found that it felt more stiff when I was turning. Still fun, but I have to move differently.
@WEEBER132 ай бұрын
This was super helpful content! THANKS, BROCK!
@stevespadaccini71213 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I'm 17 just had my first surf lesson yesterday had so much fun loving the vids bro
@death_knell3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’m 14 and been surfing over a year now🤙🏽 keep it up and I’m sure we’ll conpete against eachother sometime🤣
@jasepip3353 жыл бұрын
Nice man! Just remember surfing takes a while to get better at and some days will be so frustrating but just stick to it!
@Shrekinator12 жыл бұрын
@@death_knell lol I'm 14 and surfed for over 5 years now keep grinding 🤙
@death_knell2 жыл бұрын
@@Shrekinator1 yeewww!!!
@ronbocian3 жыл бұрын
This is by far THE best video on fin setups.
@matiasespina14903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!!!! Looking for some new fins as I use just the basic futures and since I surf more and more now I am gonna use this to help me! Thanks bro!
@iljajonker93033 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice vid! You only forgot to mention the fin position and which influence it has to the behavior of the board. It counts for both setups where you used the US box. Normally when you put a fin in the US box, the mid position is base position of the fin. When you put the fin more to the back, the board wants to go more in a straight line and wants to go faster. When to put the fin more to the front, the board wants to turn more/ better but wants to go less faster and is more controllable.
@lukasmarkart31833 жыл бұрын
Super interesting and informative video! Now I'm thinking about getting a single fin for my mid length as well. Seems really fun!
@TheDudeGonzalez3 жыл бұрын
Great video amigo!! That was a hard day at the office for you but you love it! Thanks for the hard work Kale
@a.lame.username.3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I'm kind of in shock that the Single fin was so good! Excellent work on the video, thank you!
@markrichards39473 жыл бұрын
Excellent topic, Kale. (Just want to reinforce too, given your recent poll, that this sort of ‘technical’ content and your brand of clear presentation, is why I responded with ‘keep doing what you’re doing’! I love the lifestyle stuff definitely, and balanced against ‘how does this work’ tech content, maintains my stoke 😁) Good that you incorporate ‘guest’ speakers too in the case of shaper Frank. And finally, nice to see your vid editor do her/his stuff. Transitions were good and add to the overall polish. Yew!
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark!! Ps: I edited this one haha
@markrichards39473 жыл бұрын
@@KalesBroccoli 😆 Then well done.
@kellymorales4985 Жыл бұрын
Great Vid, I ride all different fin setups in various conditions and like Quads the best, even in bigger waves.
@piercecooke96492 жыл бұрын
Been struggling on a quad for months with a new board. Speed on take off is just too much, never gave fin set up much thought. Thanks for confirming I should go back to a thruster or even 2+1 to really try and kill the speed off and get into my comfort zone again
@drewrodwell42213 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Kale, I think you demonstrated well that boards and fins are a holistic design, that board being designed as a single.
@pocopi35553 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your videos! I just bought the quad legacy fins from futures and I was wondering if it’s possible to ride them as twin ? Cheers
@bennyb.17423 жыл бұрын
Nah, not really. The front fins will be way to small on their own.
@middleagedshred3 жыл бұрын
Bens da man today..twin fin fins are wider/bigger than normal fins, known as keel fins..If you use normal fins the tail will slide out too much almost like a no fin setup as I have found out..)....also to the people who know about fins..you will look a kook...again...as I have found out...) fun to try tho..
@surfershaper3 жыл бұрын
Try two sides in the rear plugs. Why not? Stick some small stabilizers in the front plugs if it's too loose. Exercise your options
@chucks2223 жыл бұрын
Great video! What size fins are you using there for thruster and quad? Looks like mediums, but maybe quads? Any recommendations about what weight to go up and down in fin sizes?
@janaklunker84893 жыл бұрын
My fav KZbin channel. 🤙
@joc581411 ай бұрын
Loved the tips, tried side fins yesterday and didn’t like how they felt on my 8’2” so deffo going back to my big central fin. I’m a relative newby so still trying to turn. Can do left as I’m a lefty anyway. Any tips?
@snipsmtb45143 жыл бұрын
Hi kale you might not remember me but you went to urban surf on Tuesday 9th of March and did you see 2 kids one with long hair on a trigger bros nuke and the other on a al metric high 5 and it was the 1 pm session
@rallybruv37033 жыл бұрын
hey, kale!!! Love your videos!!! I was looking at the How To Rip video where they compare the Go fish vs Seaside, I really want any one of those but I was curious I surf small waves and I'm still working on mastering my pop up on a 6'0, but I think with dedication I can pop up on a small fish. With that being said do you think I can surf with any of these without being frustrated all the time?? Thank you and stay safe!
@matthewmetcalfe68533 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you try the Twinnie set up on a fish shape. Just to see the difference you notice
@gdawwg11253 жыл бұрын
Hi Kale. wondering you could do a video on how to take off on fat waves that may have already broken or half broken (when you are gonig for a re-form) . i always get smashed but i see guys who can do it and they make it look easy
@MyMotherWasaNinja3 жыл бұрын
Fin plug placement is everything. Try with the keels on the back plugs.
@taidriscoll15803 жыл бұрын
hey could you try explain barrel riding and getting into barrels please also I surf a 5,6 quad and I'm able to make big long carves but rarely any snaps. I do think I am doing quick turns more often now and it did have to do with my experience level but I don't know if I would really change much if I switched back to a thruster
@kylewattssurfing32663 жыл бұрын
Alwayyys eddduuucaaatiooonaaal and super helpful!!!
@MrRobinski3 жыл бұрын
good comparison, too bad you didn't have a FCS to fin box adapter to try it as a proper thruster set up, also smaller side bites with a single fin and a rear stabilizer with twin and more upright fins would have been cool to add. Also, were they flexy nylon fins you used?
@ChampX1X2 жыл бұрын
Nice and interesting! Im just wondering how big was the board and how big was the single fin. I have a similar board and want to buy a single fin just don’t know which size I should get. A video about Single fin surfboards and how to choose the fins would be great !
@markdavey47273 жыл бұрын
You're at York's, so many good spots, enjoy! 🤙
@oldschoolwaverider2 жыл бұрын
I am so used to a thruster setup, but there seem to be mostly quads or twinnies these days. I am pretty much being forced into purchasing a quad! Not sure how it's going to affect how to generate speed on one.
@shredbros82103 жыл бұрын
Hi Kale can you make a video on how to make a perfect wax job? Because I keep watching videos and they don't seem to work to can you please do it? thanks!!!
@gdawwg11253 жыл бұрын
You mean putting wax on your board ? You just rub it on , it ain’t rocket surgery
@surfineagle60763 жыл бұрын
Rocket surgery 😂🤣😂
@EnchantedChakra3 жыл бұрын
Been asking for this
@simoneokelly21793 жыл бұрын
Bro ur channel is really growing just remember me from 1k when u hit 1 mil subs Great vid
@nathanmoore570511 ай бұрын
Would’ve been good if you had a shortboard for fin testing also.. I’m after a good all round fin! thinking the fcs2 accelerator or performers 👍
@dmitryivanov16652 жыл бұрын
Dude, which surfboard model is that? Good review by the way
@DasSoldiers3 жыл бұрын
Tanty ohlanty loved this vid. Great edit. Ripping heavy spray for the content. Only feedback. More sea shantys pls
@KM-co5mx3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve been really looking forward to this one! Thank you 🙏 🏄♂️ 😎 👍
@cades.clips1013 жыл бұрын
Hey kale could you do a review of the best known boards for 2-4 foot wave, maybe you can do al merrick board reviews or js boards
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Filming now
@davydtolyarenok37043 жыл бұрын
Hey Kale, it would be cool to add twin + trailer setup (2+1). Cheers Davyd 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@pwayne35803 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz stay home
@3diabolos3 жыл бұрын
Go finless!! A challenge at the beginning but awesome feeling when you get it 🤙🤙
@flyingkiwi75603 жыл бұрын
Hey Kale, who makes that foamy that you're always riding? It looks like a nice board to just have some fun on
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Ocean & Earth Happy Hour
@flyingkiwi75603 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 🤙🤙
@jamesteakiii73232 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful.
@jeffn13842 жыл бұрын
As a pretty average surfer I think the single fin is probably a better match to average surfers who aren't surfing overly radical manoeuvres. They feel more stable, predictable, drivey, and you have options for size and shape to experiment with.
@bonsummers2657 Жыл бұрын
Tri-fins are easier to surf than single fins, especially backside. I started on single fins back in the 80's,…. and when I got on a tri-fin of fitting size board, it was like OMG,…. that's it!
@stevefrey63373 жыл бұрын
Kale, thanks so much for what you do! I notice you had the single fin in both the thruster and single configuration all the way forward in the slot. Can you address why that is? How does the position of the fin in the slot effect the ride?
@evanspilman90543 жыл бұрын
From what I understand farther forward in the slot makes it looser and easier to turn and more responsive and farther back is the exact opposite, less maneuverability but better stability
@guicatelano81242 жыл бұрын
Awesome video !keep going man. Also where is that spot ? ive been living here from overseas and i looks like a awesome place to visit cheers
@KalesBroccoli2 жыл бұрын
South Australia
@todmarcus19543 жыл бұрын
Kale, thanks for your videos. If I showed up at the beach with a small wave performance board (Rocket Wide), but the waves were overhead and pumping, what would be my best fin option for control in fast waves? Medium or Large? Pivot or Raked? Thanks!
@OEFarredondo3 жыл бұрын
In Maui I used a thruster with a bigger center fin then all round bigger skegs and center fin. The other one is use the twin keel* fins and slap the two smaller quad fins on and it changes everything for the quad (lord have mercy lol)
@cadebarrett89863 жыл бұрын
Sick one mate, keep on doing your thing🙏🏼
@k1ng4013 жыл бұрын
On the Ocean & Earth website, the Happy Hour is described as a epoxy board. Is “foamie” any board that doesn’t have a fibreglass outside? I’ve been advised to move up from a foamie to an epoxy board next. So is the Happy Hour a good step up from a true foamie? Or is it still a foamie?
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
It’s a mix 🤙🏽
@oscarcaruso2043 жыл бұрын
This is question everyone is too embarrassed to ask! Thanks 🤙
@dansfosterthanyou3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@claudiobertadeazevedo46693 жыл бұрын
Nice, but can I say something? Where is Simon Anderson original TRI-FIN setup? It might be the best. Let's hope for a controlled environment like a wave pool, if possible. The fin boxes not in use have to be capped, the extra drag on the open center and side fins on the twin fin setup is MASSIVE
@middleagedshred3 жыл бұрын
On the Thruster/ 2+1 setup on the foamie and single fin setup you set the centre fin high up in the slot...Would setting it farther back in the slot increase pivot at the cost of increased drag throughout turns?..would have been kool to see the center fin in both positions and hear your thoughts.
@bennyb.17423 жыл бұрын
To a point yes, but on a 2+1 if you put a fin as large as Kale's too far back the board becomes really really stiff. Fully missile mode.
@middleagedshred3 жыл бұрын
@@bennyb.1742 hah..ahh yea see what ya mean..that is quite a hefty size fin..what about single fin?..does farther back increase pivot?
@ronbelanger89363 жыл бұрын
How about breathing techniques when paddling to catch a wave, riding a wave and paddling out.
@Dog_in_a_hat3 жыл бұрын
omg, perfect timing
@deedominus10023 жыл бұрын
wohoooo single fins!
@coolL10313 жыл бұрын
8:12 Even the fish are showing their fin setups!
@TeaRizz Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment
@chrispewkreme3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see how fin setups compare and if possible, I always recommend a quad plus center box to experiment. Buttttt I’m sure whatever fun setup you choose, you can adapt and learn and rip on. As you demonstrated here.
Everytime I watch your videos, I like to predict what you're going to say in your review after testing things out and I always end up being right in what you will say. It makes me happy knowing that I've built up my surf knowledge due to watching you.
@jesusrenemedinasanchez6893 жыл бұрын
whats the surfboard you're using?
@daapeh37533 жыл бұрын
Talkin about fins. I see some fins in the back at 8:11. Are those sharkies?
@EternalJourneys3 жыл бұрын
Haha, that’s pondalowie bay in SA. Always a pod of dolphins kicking around.
@gorge54123 жыл бұрын
Geez, daa peh. You've got a GREAT set of eyes. I had to slow down the vid to one-quarter speed to see. You are right. At ~8:08 look at the left side -- close to the left black side of the vid -- top one third way down. The another two fins are in middle on right at ~8:11. Btw, great vid, KB.
@hollywoodrn72403 жыл бұрын
Hi what foamie board is that?
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Ocean & Earth Happy Hour
@Bruce3Music3 жыл бұрын
What's the length of your soft top?
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
6’6
@offroadturkey3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@jayclubben15843 жыл бұрын
what kind of foamie (brand) is that board?
@middleagedshred3 жыл бұрын
Think its ocean & earth
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Ocean & earth Happy Hour
@James-vx7df3 жыл бұрын
What’s the foamie? Brand size etc
@KalesBroccoli3 жыл бұрын
Ocean earth happy hour 6’6
@troymartyn8542 жыл бұрын
Try the outside thruster fins in the rear boxes by them self with no central fin.🤫
@morganhill13 жыл бұрын
Really awesome! Very helpful. yewwww 🤙🤙🤙
@surfineagle60763 жыл бұрын
Single fins, such a cool flow. Twin fins, the right twinnies are amazing. Thrusters, the majority of people riding 3 fins shouldn’t(fish). Quads...🤷🏽♂️.
@wutflex3 жыл бұрын
Do you voice Duncan frombobs burgers?
@szontomkiewicz65493 жыл бұрын
Great
@gioevo1112 жыл бұрын
Now do a comparison with Bonzer setups (3 fin and 5 fin), and dare I say....the Hull.
@gioevo1112 жыл бұрын
Obviously these options are board specific, and harder to experiment with by just swapping out fins.
@EnchantedChakra3 жыл бұрын
Finally
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
Mate, if you're a filmmaker who's absolutist about low framerate aesthetic qualities, and you're in a PAL country, you might as well get that one extra frame per second and not deal with all of the hidden problems of 24fps. 25fps with a 1/40th of a second shutter speed looks better and has fewer technical issues than 24fps 1/50th. It'll also record in any country without the lights flickering. I'd personally recommend 30fps 1/50th for anything that isn't strictly a narrative storytelling experience (i.e. this vlog style content you have) but trying to convince filmmaker types that 30 is visually superior has so far been a losing battle for me, even when I try to send video examples. *EDIT:* Also, when you're recording with a higher framerate for speed ramping purposes such as at 6:36, you must ignore the 180-degree rule and set your shutter speed to damn-near equal, if not exactly equal to the frame rate in order to have enough motion blur for when the footage is in real speed. Shutter speed alone affects motion blur simply due to the physics of shutter speed being a measure of time that the shutter is capturing motion. 1/60th of a second, for instance, will always capture 1/60th of a second of motion whether you do it once, 24 times, 30 times, or 60 times per second. I absolutely guarantee that your speed-ramp HFR footage will look more natural in real-time (both at the lower rate, and if you played it back in an HFR timeline) if you set the shutter speed as you would for your normal settings. Natural motion blur for real-speed viewing happens in the 1/40th to 1/60th of a second range.