Which is the best enduro e-bike? Mondraker Dune RR Vs. YT Decoy SN head-to-head test

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These two enduro bikes were both released in 2024, boast high-end carbon frames, sport MX wheels, and utilise lightweight drive unit systems to make them as agile and dynamic as possible. They even share exactly the same price - £8,499, even if one is available through a traditional dealer network and the other sells directly to the consumer.
The bikes in question are the Mondraker Dune RR and the YT Decoy SN Core 4. Mondraker’s Dune uses the Bosch SX motor bolted to a chassis that features Mondraker’s famous Forward Geometry and its latest Zero suspension design, while the YT Decoy SN rolls up with the Fazua Ride 60 motor and an evolution of the V4L suspension design found on the classic full-fat Decoy.
So we have two closely matched bikes that happen to ride completely differently on the trail. From the motor characteristics to the suspension performance, and the frame feel, these two rigs show that, no matter how well matched they might be on paper, it can be a completely different story on the trail.
We tested these bikes in Portugal, Austria, BikePark Wales, Forest of Dean, and the Surrey Hills over the course of several months.
To read the full reviews, along with the actual weights and geometry, head over to:
www.mbr.co.uk/...
Specs:
YT Deccoy SN Core 4 £8,499
Frame: Ultra Modulus Carbon Fibre, 160mm travel (157mm measured)
Shock: Fox DHX2 Factory (230x65mm)
Fork: Fox 38 Float Factory, 170mm travel (44mm offset)
Motor: Fazua Ride 60, 450W/60Nm
Battery: Fazua Ride 60 430Wh
Control unit: Fazua Ring Controller
Wheels: Crankbrothers Synthesis E-Bike Alloy wheels, Continental Krypototal Super Soft/Soft 29x2.4in/27.5x2.4in tyres
Drivetrain: E*thirteen Helix Race crank, 34t, 160mm, SRAM GX Eagle AXS Transmission 12-speed shifter and r-mech
Brakes: SRAM Maven Silver, four-piston, 220/200mm
Components: Renthal Apex stem 50mm, Renthal Fatbar 35 800mm, YT Postman 200mm dropper post, SDG Bel Air 3.0 saddle
Weight: 21.1kg
Sizes: S, M, L, XL, XXL
Mondraker Dune RR £8,499
Frame: Stealth Air full carbon, 165mm travel (162mm measured)
Shock: Ohlins TTX Air (205x65mm)
Fork: Ohlins RXF 38 M.2, 170mm travel (44mm offset)
Motor: Bosch Performance SX, 600W / 55Nm
Battery: 400Wh
Control unit: Bosch Mini Remote, System Controller, and Kiox 500
Wheels: E*Thirteen Grappler Race wheels
Tyres: Maxxis Assegai MG EXO+ / Maxxis Minion DHRII MT DD 29x2.5in / 27.5x2.4in
Drivetrain: E*Thirteen E*Spec Plus crank, 34t, 170mm, SRAM GX Eagle AXS T-Type 12-speed shifter and r-mech
Brakes: SRAM Code Bronze four-piston, 200 / 200mm
Components: Onoff Krypton FG Stem 30mm, Onoff Krypton Carbon bars 800mm, Onoff Pija dropper post 170mm, Fizik Aidon Slim X5 saddle
Weight: 19.89kg
Sizes: S, M, L, XL
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Пікірлер: 47
@FandaReza
@FandaReza 19 сағат бұрын
Used to watch MBR back in the day. I am glad I rediscovered you again. Superb content and honest reviews. Keep up a good job. Also nice shred in FOD and BPW 👍
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks and welcome back!
@gingerb36
@gingerb36 8 күн бұрын
Great review, really enjoying the rapport and the depth of knowledge
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Thanks! 🙏
@DoddyMTBtech
@DoddyMTBtech 6 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed this video guys, great format and really well put together. Great work!
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 6 күн бұрын
Thanks Doddy! 🙏
@TimHulbert-q9f
@TimHulbert-q9f 7 күн бұрын
Great videos boys! 👍👍👍
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 7 күн бұрын
Cheers! 🍻
@KiwiInGermanyMTB
@KiwiInGermanyMTB 9 күн бұрын
Man I want that yt. I hope Fazua sort out their issues
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, it’s a really good system aside from the reliability issues
@Bestillhomestead
@Bestillhomestead 8 күн бұрын
What issues do fazua have? Was looking into getting a YT SN as well
@KiwiInGermanyMTB
@KiwiInGermanyMTB 7 күн бұрын
@@Bestillhomestead If you follow forums of some of the bikes with Fazua motors, you hear a lot of people having to warranty replace them. It might have just been earlier versions and they are better now. Also the ring controller is a bit troublesome and cheap feeling. They are changing that in 2025.
@andymoss4285
@andymoss4285 2 күн бұрын
MBR seem to really like the fazua when it works, but have had duds. I’m curious about the system and I’m sort of tempted, but nobody wants to stump up a load of cash for a lemon. I’ve seen things online about v1 motors dying in 200miles, but then they are getting warranty replacement with a v4 motor. Is there any truth in this? I think In a review mbr had an e zesty ride 60 which died? But that was in 2023(?), there’s some posts on forums but they’re dated early 2024, there’s some videos on other channels around may ‘24…. It’s now end of December 2024, can MBR as part of the bike media get some official info as to what FAZUA have done and issues they believe are fixed? Every single review about ride 60 bring up reliability as a major factor in not being able to recommend the bikes, which must affect the bike brand’s sales. So it’s in everybody’s interest to get this info out there.
@HappyJack279
@HappyJack279 9 күн бұрын
Like this format 👍👍
@superawesomefuntimego
@superawesomefuntimego 9 күн бұрын
Both these bikes are interesting to me. I own a Yeti 160e and spent a lot of time on a few other full power ebikes and as much as I like them, I do not love the weight or how any of them feel on the trail. I hate the lethargic handling feel of 50+ lb bikes. My 160e is 51lbs. I do not even care about the full power as I'd gladly trade the power for a mid power bike that feels more like a traditional enduro bike that is easier to throw around.
@wwcinek
@wwcinek 8 күн бұрын
Mondraker Dune RR 🤎 for me 👍 I had my for 4 months and love it, at 6 feet I didn't experience an issue with the drop post ( running 200mm sizie L) 👍
@joaoesdevao461
@joaoesdevao461 9 күн бұрын
...and my winner is CANNONDALE MOTERRA SL, full power,more range,19.5kg,low BB,slack Geo, -absolute Dream bike
@jordanmackay3568
@jordanmackay3568 8 күн бұрын
Doesn't get good ratings. Numbers don't mean much
@joaoesdevao461
@joaoesdevao461 8 күн бұрын
@@jordanmackay3568 its a great Bike,dont care about ratings, best EBike for my humble skills
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 9 күн бұрын
Guys, you gotta redo the testing, there is also a third light (ish) enduro bike on the market, the commencal meta sx. Aluminium frame, cat 5 rated btw, fox factory everything, bosch sx, similar geometry to the dune but with a 5mm lower bb (if they measured it parallel to the ground) and fixed dropper post insertion length, medium size comes in 180mm. Another highlight are the 155mm cranks. Just joking obviously, but the commencal might be the best of both worlds and its still reasonably priced at 8,2k euros. It does have two downsides though, 22kg weight, and its on preorder now. A tip for the dune: OneUp dropper v3, you can get through the bank 1 to 2cm, maybe even 3cm if you are lucky, extra drop length, getting it to normal lengths again. The MY25 version of the dune comes also with a different display (purion 400) and a lower stack with lower insertion length dropper post, quite similar to the OneUp v3. And still i am undecided what bike i want. The yt and anything fazua is out of question due to reliability and no range extender, the santa cruz vala and orbea wild come with poverty spec components in their 7500 euro trim, the dune has short dropper length (although i haven't felt limited yet with a 140mm on a all-mountain bike), the commencal is little bit of a fatty and the mondraker sly doesn't have the "i want it" feel when looking at it. Im looking for a enduro or enduro capable trail bike thats on the lighter spectrum, no more than 600wh, ideally around 400wh and a RE fitted the two to three times a year i need it. If you got some suggestions, i would appreciate it. Bosch cx gen4 is also out of the question, if i want rattly full power ill pick a ep801 over it, but id prefer a cx gen5 or sx over it
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment. A lot of interesting points you’ve made. The Commencal wasn’t out when we started the test, and they won’t send bikes to review in comparison tests, so can’t help you there. We’ve been riding the Slash+ recently and there’s a lot to like about it, but it’s spendy. As you say, that doesn’t leave many options.
@jordanmackay3568
@jordanmackay3568 8 күн бұрын
22kg isn't that bad in the real word. My Kenevo SL is 21.3kg. Stop worrying about bike weights. The bike for you is the Santa Cruz Heckler SL. Yes fazua have issues but that bike is superb. The one I'd go for. Extender is out in May for Fazua
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 8 күн бұрын
@@jordanmackay3568 thanks for your input. I already know that the heckler would be the ideal bike for me yet the reliability is concerning and the 2 year delay of the RE doesn't spark hope in me. Ill wait until spring to see how it all develops
@carlthomas317
@carlthomas317 9 күн бұрын
Would be interested in comparing core 4 with the core 3. Just seems a better bike to me, with suspension etc, but that's me.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 9 күн бұрын
Yeah we really want to ride the Core 3 - looks like the sweet spot
@neverasks
@neverasks 7 күн бұрын
If you test the slash plus, I would love see how it compares to these bikes. These 3 bikes are all at the top of my list.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 7 күн бұрын
Will try and put something together 👍
@thim8009
@thim8009 8 күн бұрын
If the batteries died on each bike, how would they pedal? Is there any drag on them?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Drag on both is pretty minimal, but obviously a 20kg bike is still heavy to climb and accelerate.
@regisjacquemin667
@regisjacquemin667 6 күн бұрын
Sorry if I missed it but, what size Decoy did you test?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 6 күн бұрын
Size Large 👍
@pizza4921
@pizza4921 8 күн бұрын
I have a mondraker crafty rr 2022 and i made it a mullet and it makes it amazing, i agree its very tall stock but making it a mullet fixed all problems
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Can’t do that on this though as it’s already mullet. 👍
@scottpratico1315
@scottpratico1315 8 күн бұрын
Full travel full power please.
@SergioTudelaRomero
@SergioTudelaRomero 8 күн бұрын
2 weeks to have my YT Decoy SN Core 4... 😊
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Nice! Hope you enjoy it 👍
@thim8009
@thim8009 8 күн бұрын
I would get the yt with r.s. ultimate.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Good choice I reckon
@michaelgale3887
@michaelgale3887 6 күн бұрын
Title should read ‘enduro emtb with less range & less power shootout’ just bite the bullet and buy a proper emtb!
@marksummer4831
@marksummer4831 9 күн бұрын
Canyon Strive On Ltd. Barel Replica. Bosch Performance Line CX Race motor. End of discussion. 😂
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 9 күн бұрын
Pretty much the bike that won our comparison this time last year 👍
@theprofitmohamhead1268
@theprofitmohamhead1268 9 күн бұрын
2023 Specialized S-Works Enduro LTD.
@stoneenforcer
@stoneenforcer 9 күн бұрын
Wouldnt buy either of those bikes. Much better options on the market
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
What would you choose?
@0T13
@0T13 9 күн бұрын
Well I used to enjoy your content but honestly this is now primarily a electric bike channel now. Thanks for the content in the past but it's a unsub from me now
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 8 күн бұрын
Appreciate the content has been ebike heavy recently, but we’ve got a down-country head to head test coming soon, plus getting bikes together for Trail Bike of the Year test. We’re not just about e-bikes.
@kentnilsson9757
@kentnilsson9757 7 күн бұрын
👍Interesting SL agains SL test with thees diffrent peak power, witch would be nice to have opportunity to by your self choose witch cadence, how must power and for how long time the peak power going to give you the support that you choosed😉. When that opportunity comes, then I by one more frameset to build my fourth SL Mtb😋
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