WHICH IS THE BETTER RAW EDITOR: ON1 PHOTO RAW 2023 VS DXO PHOTOLAB 6

[@geoffreykingston4866]

I have spent a fortune chasing RAW processors and have tried almost all of them. I have now settled on using DXO RAW as it was intended - a RAW processor - not a catch all. Although it is extremely powerful, with excellent noise reduction, colour rendering and lens correction I do take the image into Photoshop for some local adjustments, object removal etc. and some fine tuning. I can then either return the image to DXO or save the final name in Photoshop. What I am saying is that DXO is now my primarily RAW editor. What is not mentioned is the availability of the Nix Collection, which in itself is outstanding.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi Goeffrey thats an interesting workflow. I do agree that most of these RAW processors have become a mini photoshop but I guess they need to do so to compete. I have not used Nik collection as I was interested in the standalone editor but I will give that a try specially the HDR efex.

[@stefanschug5490]

I use almost the same workflow but use Affinity and ON1 instead of DXO and I love the Nik collection. Trick is to not overuse all these tools and take a rather subtle approach. They all work if you know what you are doing and each one has its advantages. I worked for more than 20 years with Photoshop CS versions and I still love the tools better than newer editions despite the steeper learning curve. Today everybody wants programs with one button solutions and no learning curve at all and all the manufacturers cater to that desire.

[@geoffreykingston4866]

@@stefanschug5490 Hi Stefan. As I mentioned, I am now using DXO Photo 6 as my prime RAW Editor but initially only use the lens corrections, camera colour profile and Deep Prime XD, which is brilliant. Then over to PS for detailed processing with the TX8 Panel and Nik Collection. Then back to DXO for very minor adjustments and exporting. Sounds convoluted but the more I use it, the quicker I get and now have more control over my images. Like you, have tried the one button fix but to me, these serve to confuse and everything seems to look the same. Have now uninstalled all other editors apart from the brilliant Luminar 4 - which I sometimes use a a plugin in PS.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier but I wholeheartedly agree. Always take a subtle approach and understand the effect of each tool. I would say though some details can't be revealed by certain RAW editor which better RAW editors can no matter what you do but they are outliers.

[@tkarlmann]

Well, if you can cope with Ps's pricing, you're rich! I _used_ to be gung-ho on Ps, when it was affordable; however I still have Ps version CS3.

[@chepo1956]

Hello from Puerto Rico. I tried both, and I decided to unsubscribe from ON1 and I bought DXO Photolab 6. There are lots of options out there, and that seems to be an Achilles tendon. It just adds to the confusion, like a buffet on a cruise ship; you can only eat one meal at a time. I try to keep it simple for myself and make editing enjoyable. So I use Adobe Photoshop and the TK8 luminosity panel from Tony Kuyper in conjunction with DXO Photolab 6.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi Jose, glad you found that video helpful. Hope you enjoy DXO Photolab 6. I do think it is the superior product and has more polished features rather than just sheer quantity. However had a few people disagree with me on this. It was expected! But I love both DXO and ON1

[@EdwardBartel]

I like your perspectives on these 2 packages as I use both of them for my editing workflow. The only thing I would pick out that I didn't get, was why you didn't highlight the "color" tab in DxO with its unparalleled camera & lens profiles. If you have the profile updated for your camera/lens combination and left the distortion on auto correction in PhotoLab's "geometry" tab, you should get a properly adjusted photo in the tool. You said that the distortion tool didn't have a vignette correction, but that is found in the "light" tab of global adjustments at the bottom of the panel - again linked to the camera/lens module. Combining these 2 functions will give you a better correction than the manual technique you used in the video (in my opinion). I enjoyed watching the video and look forward to checking out your future content. I'd especially love to see any additional tutorials you have around the DxO software as I'm still trying to learn it. For example, I had no idea this package came with smart masking capabilities in the local adjustments. Thank you!

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi Edward, thanks for the feedback. Noted that I probably turned off the auto vignette correction. I was actually considering to just crop it off. Anyway RX100 Mark 6 is a pretty distorted lens I think for most people it won't be an issue. Let me see what other DXO tutorials I can make.

[@hotel1257]

How about getting nik collection as it comes with photolab 5 essential? Do I miss some features compairing pl 6 elite? I have now free trial on nik collections and those filter sets are nice, is there filter sets on pl 6 elite?. If it matters I have Sony a7m4. And I just learning to shoot raw. Many thanks your video and subscribed.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi thanks for the sub. I also am trialing nik collection mostly for the HDR. Haven't compared the filter sets but I think nik collection should have a lot more styles for you to choose

[@SergNikiforovGordeev]

Thanks! Although I looked at it with great delay, I got the benefit. Both programs being compared have already been heavily updated. I wonder how things are now when comparing them? Maybe you have a new way of comparing these two programs. I haven't found it myself yet. If there are such comparisons of updated programs, I would appreciate a link.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hello! Thanks for watching the video. If you are still undecided you can look at this videos which include dxo photolab 7 and on1 photoraw 2024 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rojcfZiuhdN_Zrc kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIarh4V-at-HqMU

[@SergNikiforovGordeev]

@@takebetterphotos8132 Thank you! I haven’t watched these two videos of yours. Thanks for the links, I'll definitely take a look.

[@CarolinePicking]

I can see you’re not very familiar with ON1. I am, and found myself wincing at the clunky ways you chose to do things! Also, it has so much more than just raw correction. I’m not familiar with DxO (which is why I watched this). The only thing you showed me it “winning” was the initial shadows slider. And I don’t know if DxO provides a similar range of filters and effects? But I saw enough to see masking is waaay easier in ON1 (though not, I agree, the way you went about it). Thanks for the video - I guess it’s impossible to know lots of different s/w inside out. 😁

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi Caroline, the focus of the video was on on RAW processing. ON1 has a lot more features than DXO for sure and depending on what you need you may prefer ON! for those. Honestly speaking it is not an easy comparison. I did also consider putting ON1 ahead. Thanks for watching.

[@smithgeo7051]

Thank you for the video . I've been looking for an alternative RAW software . So i,m going for DxO ,not cheep so i hope it will be worth the money ?. I have one question . Is it easy to use as a plugin with Lightroom and photoshop CS6 or even Elements . ps i did hit to subscribe button

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for the sub. I think DXO is a great choice. DXO Photolab 7 is a standalong RAW editor, don't think its meant to be a plugin as in dxo pureraw 4 or dxo nik collection. However you can open photos from Lightroom/capture one's browser in dxo photolab 7.

[@tkarlmann]

I am presently an ON1 user; and I noticed you repeated a "micro contrast" a few times -- suggesting DXO had it and ON1 did not. I was wondering if you were aware of the "Dynamic Contrast" Filter ON1? It's in the "Effects" tab. This is one of ON1's most useful & robust filters. Did you take this into consideration when comparing the two programs for this feature?

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi I am aware of the dynamic contrast. It's ON1's best detail enhancement tool. Not as good as the performance of microcontrast in my opinion. Have you tried both ON1 and DXO?

[@tkarlmann]

@@takebetterphotos8132 I'm confused about what cameras & lenses are covered with DXO -- and I expressed my concerns via a support inquiry. ON1 is failing to do Pixel-Shift files, period, so I'm looking. However, DXO is 2X the price of ON1 -- this is a concern right now. Thanks for the reply. No, I've not tried DXO yet. BTW: "OM Workspace" is a great tool for OM systems / Olympus users. Have you tried it? It's free, but works on files for that system exclusively, I think.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi unfortunately I don't have an OM camera glad to see Olympus still thriving. As for DXO, it is quite picky. It doesn't do iphone RAW files for example which is big negative. Most my cameras are Sony but none are the latest. Not sure if you've seen their webpage on camera/lens compatibility www.dxo.com/supported-cameras/. You can also download a free trial to test compatibility for yourself.

[@tkarlmann]

@@takebetterphotos8132Yes, and I could really care less about what Sony cameras can and cannot do -- My OM-1 can do it all -- why would I go with some company playing catch-up? As far as DXO goes, there is encouraging news! I just got a reply from them which I will quote here: "Thank you for writing. Yes, DxO PhotoLab does now support 50MP and 80MP Pixel-shift files from the Om Systems OM-1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 mark 3 cameras. Thank you for contacting DxO Customer Support." I have not received a reply, as yet , from ON1. I am finding DXO's method of determining which Cameras & Lenses are supported to be quite tedious -- to say the least! Here, it might be far easier to DL a free trial than wade through their overly / unnecessarily complicated "compatibility web pages".

[@markhokeproductions]

Could you comment and show how you would use your workflow if ON1 is your main content editor, but I also use Photoshop and Luminar. My question is I would like to interchange my image with all these programs without getting out of ON1, is this possible or do I have to make LRC my main editor also would you recommend any other programs?

[@takebetterphotos8132]

I believe their main mechanism is to right click the thumbnail and choose send to other applications. It will then open the image in that application. Not sure if that is what you are looking for.

[@nelzackleo]

Agreed! I thought my pc was slow, but I now see that is something they can improve performance wise. One thing you did not mention that could be a deal breaker is where the program stores files with information done to the raw photos. So, what about dxo photolab vs capture one?

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi thanks for the comments. Yes ON1 performance is pretty sluggish and a battery drain if you use a laptop. Something they should focus on for next version. I understand both ON1 and DXO create a special file with the RAW editing information, in the same directory as the image. Yes DXO Photolab and Capture One is another interesting idea I will coming up with a top 5 RAW editor video which will address this. Watch out for that!

[@nelzackleo]

@@takebetterphotos8132 I will!

[@maxmillion4216]

My biggest complaint about On1Phot Raw 2023, (which I do use) still doesn't support Canon R6M2 camera profiles. From what I have read about DXO Photolab 6 it does support Canon R6M2 camera profiles. Is DXO Photolab nondestructive like On1 PhotRaw.?? That would be a deciding factor for me.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Yes it is non destructive. It even has a history of all the adjustments. Do trial it out andsee if it suits you.

[@tkarlmann]

I've got another, now, definitive distinction between these two programs! DXO _supports_ "Pixel-Shift" files; while ON1 definitely _does not_ ! I have contacted both companies' Tech support; and have received answers from each. I have used ON1 for years, and their reply was that not only do they not support "Pixel-Shift" files, but that they have _no plans_ to do so in the future! FYI for all!!!

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for the update! Never tried this very interesting technology. Is the difference perceivable on a 32 inch montior?

[@tkarlmann]

@@takebetterphotos8132 I would presume so -- however, high MP files require special sharpening to show off their quality -- if not done properly, you might think the smaller file as the sharper. Professionally, I don't need or require a 32" monitor; I deal with large prints of a large group of people.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

I see large prints, no wonder you would need such a large megapixel size.

[@stefansipl6736]

This was very, very interesting and really helpful since you didn‘t take a theoretical approach and instead focused on how to use those to editors. A comparison between Capture One and Photolab would be more than welcome. Especially after the latest announcement by Capture One which will many C1 users look for alternatives.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Glad you found the video helpful. Didn't know about the announcement till you mentioned it that Capture One is now trying to discourage perpetual license. Sad to see. I'll look into this comparison.

[@stefansipl6736]

@@takebetterphotos8132 Thanks. That would really be very interesting. Especially with your approach that really helps users. Lot‘s of forums are currently full with questions how e.g. DXO Photolab 6 compares to Capture One.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

That comparison is in the pipeline. The results should be interesting.

[@stefansipl6736]

@@takebetterphotos8132 Wow great! Looking forward to it!

[@patmat.]

If I understand, ON1 has 2 automatic masking tools where you see the resulting masked area. DXO has one tool and you don't see the resulting area.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Yes dxo is falling behind here. This doesn't even include the latest ON 2024.5 update which drastically updated its AI masking

[@BobShrader]

Nice comparison, but I think you don't understand all of the ON1 Photo RAW tools. For example, the Chisel tool would have been a better choice to deal with the halo example you showed. I have used both of these apps for years, and I think the Photo RAW UI is much more user friendly. DxO's tiny correction window with sliders is difficult to use. The new AI features in Photo RAW make it much better, too. It is so good, I have removed DxO PhotoLab from my Mac.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi Bob, thanks for the suggestions I may be missing something and I have tried the chisel tool but perhaps I am using it wrong as it didn't work for me. I will definitely take your suggestion and look at it again. DXO correction window? are you referring to the local adjustments widget? Yes it is too small I prefer they put it as normal sliders but maybe they wanted it to be innovative :)

[@tonyw3250]

When you say it has better noise reduction, is that included in the program or is that an added extra?

[@takebetterphotos8132]

deepprime is included with dxo photolab

[@emeregildo100]

Very nice video. I use both softwares since both offer distinctive capabilities not found in both, such as Smart Lighting in PL for instante. By the way, PL's Smart Lighting could also have been used to lift up the shadows of the foreground without affecting much the highlights and the midtones of the sky.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi I surely agree. Both have their own strengths I mostly use DXO for its ClearView and microcontrast when the image is lifeless. ON1 is great for natural looking color. Yes smart lighting could be used, as well as curves. I. do prefer to edit each set of tone individually.

[@gregheath65]

I use on1 and have found I have hardly used it this year because there is a timezone bug. It must only affect certain regions. I live in Sydney Australia and on1 adds 10 hours to my photo date/time meta data. On1 have acknowledged the problem but there is no eta to fix it. Looks like i will be getting PL 7. Will trial it first.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Wow thats not good at all. ON1 does have a tendency to add more features without polishing older features first. Hopefully 2024 will be different. But pl7 is quite reliable I use it all the time. Hopefully it will meet your needs.

[@Alan_Clark]

I use ON1 Phot RAW 2022, and one thing I dislike about it is the fact that many sliders are repeated within various tools. The curves tool is also contained within at least one other tool! this is very poor design. I realise that mine is not the latest version, and the 2024 version is coming out soon with many claimed design improvements, but I don't know if they will fix this. I also dislike the way that adjusting (eg) shadows affect non-shadows, so it can be tricky to get the result I want. I will definitely give DXO a try.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

I agree they focused on adding features at the expense of design. You are talking about putting the curves tool inside effects tool. Totally nonsensical! But 2024 looks like a big improvement. Looking to reevaluating both software when they come out soon.

[@Alan_Clark]

@@takebetterphotos8132 Actually I was talking about putting the curves tool inside the tone enhancer tool!

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Yes just put it where exposure slider is. That's what everyone else does. Don't know why they have to be different!🙂

[@marvellis6762]

I went to download both on trial but my iMac wouldn't support DXO PL6..... On1 thus far is really good! a Luminar comparison would be interesting

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi I suppose your Mac OS is older than Big Sur which is the minimum requirement. I actually did a comparison with Luminar Neo but it was with ON1 2022. Do check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipPRk2ujeJWSmqs I think most of my comments still holds.

[@marvellis6762]

Yeah my iMac is 10.15.7. On1 and Luminar comparison I will check. I had NEO on trial and was impressed, not as much depth as On1 in my view

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

I have on1 2023 and I use it like a plugin for Lightroom. It does well with portraits mostly. I find the masking tools interesting but editing is always required and not always accurate. Lightroom 12 is much better. The noise and sharpening work pretty well but it always oversharpens and does a far better job with raw images than if you bring in a TIF or PSD. I use pure raw 2.0 ( DXO) for noise and sharpening as a plugin out of Lightroom. Sky replacements work pretty well with some tweaks in on1 which is not in photolab

[@takebetterphotos8132]

I agree that ON1/DXO does a better job with RAW images. Lightroom is the rare one which handles both RAW and JPEG well.

[@vjurco]

Thanks for the video. As a comment on basic and most common tasks it is well done. Have to say though, that ON1 possibilities go far beyond and perhaps only PS can match and do even more. However Photoshop is Photoshop and it has too technical and tool oriented approach unlike ON1 or DXO. The fact is that AI masking does not work well so far (waiting for a patch) but there are other masking tools before you start refining the mask edges . You have classical AI mask tool where you can just make a red line through the objects you do want to be masked and green line for unmasked areas. And it works much better then NEW AI Supermasking. I would even choose for this particular pic Luminous mask - which is fantastic and precise. Then you can easily define contrast of mask, feathering /soft/hard maskedges) and contrst tone levels just with a slider - getting rid of any halo and with smooth rendering to the unmasked areas. Whoever does not try the masking power of ON1 should do it. You did not mention too much about AI NoNoise - which is IMO on par with DXO and Topaz - sometimes DXO wins and sometimes ON1. The biggest benefit you have at hand is fine-tweaking the whole operation - denoising strength (for two applicable DeNoising models) and fine tweaking of NR and detail retention (those are separated - so you can strengthen NR and strengthen Detail as well. It is not one or another). Plus Sharpening has several options and combinations to get from the photo max. From Classical mods that target big/mid/small details up-to AI recreation of details, deconvolution and microcontrast sharpening. Have I mentioned that ON1 can process any DNG file - whether from real cameras (converted from RAW) or any DNG from e.g Phones which can generate output into DNG? AFAIK DXO is so restrictive with DNG - it is beyond my understanding. Finally probably should be mentioned Effects tab where you have much more power than in Basic global tweaking - inclusive masks/color range where to apply particular tweaking and obviously blending modes to the original masked areas. Yes there is certainly learning curve - but when it comes to overall editor power... LightRoom is unfortunately no match and DXO though IMO better than LR is still not in ON1 league. However for standard quick editing DXO is perhaps better option - as you showed in your video.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for your detailed response. I did not know that the classical AI mask is still there that would be great. Will verify that. My main issue with general masking despite the many options (I have tried tweaking all of it) it's edge detection doesn't mask as precisely as LR or capture one or DXO out of the box and is very slow. Yes AI nonoise is great and I did do a video comparing it though I do say deepprime is slightly better. The dng capability is interesting I did not know of this disparity. Thanks for the feedback I learned a lot!

[@vjurco]

@@takebetterphotos8132 Thanks fro response 🙂No doubt that DXO or new LR or PS are better in AI auto masking - more precise etc. Sad, that ON1 AI masking (ver. 2023) until repaired is far behind (and there are plenty of other problems so far - slowing down in some tasks, freezing, crashing etc.) ON1 is working hard on those, some were already repaired in first patch, the rest is waiting for solution. One should ask - why repair them after release and not before? Maybe the pressure of soon upcoming DXO? However when it comes to mask really tough subject (lot of trees with transparent view on the background sky, or say dog with beautiful fur (aka rough collie) when face sharpness is slowly disappearing into unsharp areas of his body - bokeh/blur - every AI masking tool has a problem, and then it comes to mask refining. In fact, in my photography & design publishing work I must very frequently tune the mask manually, as the auto is hardly good enough. This requires edge refinement and even more - adapt seamless blending into the pic. Applying different types of gradients on pre-prepared mask is sometimes must - especially when you make e.g. blur on some areas and do not want to touch already masked one (e.g. person in the landscape) . Sharp and pixel perfect mask is ideal starting point but sometimes does unacceptable job, when natural blending of masked and unmasked areas is a must - again no other way but manual tweak. Well those are just my thoughts and experience after decades using all sorts of RAW editing applications. Best way how to get excellent result is always "know you gear (camera) and know your editor. Cheers

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi thanks for your post which I apologize did not see sooner. Just as an update, I found that ON1 23 perfect brush is actually good if you set the tolerance higher. Without it the brush works too restrictively. I don't use AI masking at all cause it's badly wrong on even average subjects. No wonder they brough back the original quick mask AI. Yes, strange they didn't do testing at all and rushed it out.

[@tkarlmann]

EVERY time I see a "Photo Editor Comparison" I see _the worst_ photos imaginable compared, ones that I would throw out, are chosen. I photograph Weddings -- I take enough shots that shots like the example shown simply do not matter. I would use flash in this instance -- and not give anything else a second thought. I do not shoot photos to be "Fixed up in Post", ever.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

But wouldn't it be hard to see the difference in performance if the photos are already properly exposed?

[@tkarlmann]

@@takebetterphotos8132 If you cannot _show_ the difference in processing 'adequate' photos, then other factors need be considered. Such as, for me, ON-1 may not be able to process "Pixel-Shift" files; whereas DXO does. Then there's the specific cameras and lenses that each will support. I would still think that showing each software processing those 'adequate' images still shows more capabilities / differences between the two programs.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Ok thanks for the feedback.

[@tkarlmann]

@@takebetterphotos8132 I've got even tougher shots to correct then the ones you have shown -- perhaps you have some yourself. I've had Brides INSIST that Group shots be taken facing the sun, partially blocked by tree foliage. (I had no powerful flashes to combat that light!) Now, if your program could correct THAT mottled face-light, I'd buy the program. I've also had a Bride under a Gazebo, where I got a LOT of great shots -- the only trouble was the Gazebo had a hole in its roof, and, you guessed it, a patch of unfiltered sunlight created a spot right on the Bride's Cheek! Can your program get that out? I'm thinking perhaps a Luminosity Filter + Masks + lots of Skill. Thoughts?

[@tkarlmann]

@@takebetterphotos8132 ***UPDATE*** On1 has replied to my inquiry: They CANNOT process or deal with Pixel-Shift files, nor have they any plans to do so. This reply just arrived yesterday. DXO CAN process these files, ON1 cannot! FYI.

[@DannyFyffe]

On1 is 99 dollars you said, but the upgrades are even cheaper. Dxo is 219. That is a 120% price increase. Is the tool 120% better than On1? No way, so your conclusion is wrong.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

That's true ON1 is great value. However the upgrade for DXO is only 99 USD compared to 79 for ON1

[@DannyFyffe]

@@takebetterphotos8132 Actually I just upgraded for over 65 dollars so my question remains, is DXO 35% better than On1? From your video, you'd have to answer no.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

I think if you shoot at night with a high ISO then DXO's noise reduction might be worth the 35%. Depends on what kind of images you like to edit. Some people even by both!

[@nikonrulz]

I don't own On1 or DXO, but I must say going by your video I totally disagree with your conclusion.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Interesting you are the second one to comment this. What aspect of ON1 do you find better than DXO.

[@agb90spruce]

@@takebetterphotos8132 While you are correct ON1 can be slower and laggy (and on less capable machines can have stability issues) overall it is, overall, a much more capable tool. Many functions, including the search function, excellent dedicated effects (including a far superior vignetting tool), range of masking capabilities/tools, library of presets, AI Keyword function, Sky replacement function, Snapshots, Cloud Sync capability, dedictated Portrait tools, AI resize, free very capable mobile app that provides most of the capability of ON1 and supports Cloud Sync, are all superior to DxO 6 Elite. That said, I like some aspects of the interface in DxO 6, and occasional superior results (e.g. ClearView works better on haze), but find DeepPRIME XD overated and the local adjustment preview too small and the adjustment panel too small and difficult to to use for incremental changes, and masking limited relative to ON1. That all said, the two programs overlap in key areas and, due to specific superiority in different areas can both be used to advantage on the same images. HOWEVER, ON1 is far more capable and cost much less if one wants just one tool.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Sorry just saw this very good post which did not show up in youtube studio. I actually agree with most with what you said. ON1 has more features to be sure. I guess it's all in the look of the images after adjustments. The colors of DXO seem to better and their image processing looks great even if zoomed to the max. Maybe try out the software, zoom your images out and see if you notice the difference in your end. Anyway thanks for watching 🙂

[@xFreyelis]

The way you use the tools on the On1 is so far, noobish. Don't get me wrong, but I think you used DXO longer, that's why I think the comparison was biased. But On1 has a lot of features that DXO doesn't have, and putting them to good use w/ experience makes the difference. DXO is a great editor, but the only thing that I like about it is the DeepPrime XD, which is a better denoiser based on my tests. Other than that, On1 actually is easier to use, and has great functions, especially when used well w/ the AI.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Hi thanks for your feedback. I actually have both softwares and use them regularly. I would say the vivid colors of DXO, Clearview, and its blacks sliders are the differentiator. Though ON1 has many more features and its photo manager is superior. I can see why some people will disagree.