Which keyboard SWITCHES should you buy?

[@Condor_]

Thank you all for being just an incredibly helpful channel when it comes to keyboards. You're helping fill a gaping hole in the knowledge base in an honestly fun and easy-to-understand way. You're being more than just your product, but the message behind them as well and I respect that wholly. The Defy is on my list of eventual buys, once I save up enough for it. I've been using a Razer Tartarus for years now for gaming and program controls, and have been longing to convert to the full split, ortholinear experience. And with videos like this, I feel so much more confident in that decision and how to customize it.

[@DygmaLab]

Thank you so much! We pour a lot of love into these videos and it makes us so happy when they are appreciated 🥰

[@-mikog8tor]

wish this video was out when I was selecting my switch for my defy

[@DygmaLab]

Don't worry, you can still change that 😊 Send us an email to [e-mail] and we'll change your order.

[@activegamemode4852]

I used kailh box whites for over 2 years at work XD 130wpm + tickets/emails to write/answer 🤣 Most hated agent BUT my supervisors got ued to it, and started to like the sound, because it was a proof that Iwork a lot with nearly no breaks. But this week my boba U4Ts arrived🤣

[@DygmaLab]

Now you boss will think you're slacking all day 😂

[@CheeseSteaksJimmy-g4l]

Well this is bloody great info. Already watched your other video about keycap profile and this is just as good! Thanks!

[@DygmaLab]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gijoe13d]

These keyboards look great! I’m loving the defy. I’ll be jumping all the way into split keyboards with it. So far I’ve used the MacBook Pro scissor switches and got used to them. Moved to the MX keys and liked those but I hated the mini because of tiny arrow keys and the full size for distant location to the arrow keys and home/end keys. I’m now in the Mx mechanical mini with low profile brown kailh switches. I honestly don’t care for these much because of the travel distance. They actuate early and at times I get many typos. Would you still recommend the silent browns with o-rings if I’d like to get back closer to the MacBook? I’ve been looking at those, the gaterons, and the speed switches both tactile and linear. I’m happy to use o-rings on any of them if they are compatible. Maybe I should try them on the keyboard now while I wait in the defy. Love the innovation in these products and the full customization. Will be a major learning curve but as a software developer I’d really like to use my little fingers less since I use the modifier keys SO much! Looked at all the split keyboard options and these are my favorite. If I was to settle on another it would be the glove but not sure about the finger well. Can’t swap switches either so it’s a very distant second to the defy! Thank you. You make these videos entertaining!

[@DygmaLab]

Hi! You can try and go to a store and touch different keyboards to see what they feel like. If you can't do this, the browns feel close enough 😊 You can also join our discord community and get more advice in out #switches channel. discord.gg/sQ7UwGqCkq

[@gionniha3919]

Hello! This video was extremely helpful in giving me a better understanding of all the different switch types. Im new to mechanical keyboards and I would appreciate some advice. Im looking for a switch that would offer a quick spring back (not sure if thats call feedback?). I will be using my keyboard mainly for typing and I type pretty quick so Im looking for something that will be responsive enough to keep up. I also like the "clicky" sound but not as loud as traditional blue switches. They seem to ping too much for my liking if that makes any sense. Hope you can give me some advice!

[@DygmaLab]

I'm really glad the video was helpful for you! In your case, I'd suggest going for switches like Cherry MX Brown, Kailh Speed Copper, Razer Orange, Gateron Brown, or Zealios V2. These options give you a quick springback with tactile feedback and a moderate clicky sound without being as loud as traditional blue switches

[@gionniha3919]

@@DygmaLab Thank you!

[@MohitKumar-ri3yv]

I have a habit of typing on laptops. And recently bought Keychron K2 pro with brown switches(50gf). A tad bit more effort is required to press them so thinking to get switches with lesser actuation.Need Smooth and creamy sound too! can you please recommend ?

[@DygmaLab]

If you're looking for tactile, the lighter of this bunch are Kailh Speed Copper (45gf) but the lightest are the linear Kailh Silent Pink (35gf). Both have a nice sound profile.

[@notacooldudewithanattitude2731]

linears for all letters, tactile on others. perfect combination for me.

[@DygmaLab]

Interesting approach!

[@Direkin]

My first mechanical keyboard used MX Blue. I was fine with it, but it made 'stealth typing' while I was on the phone /really hard/. I've got a set of Choc Nocturnals for my next build. Still waiting on delivery of SAC305 wire though... I wonder if we'll see low-profile HE switches soon, as I'd like a board with those.

[@DygmaLab]

Maybe the reason we haven't seen LP HE switches is because the smaller travel distance makes them less necessary?

[@sauve76]

HI newbie, which would be best for gaming, I am not bothered by clicking etc, and I can not afford to buy the wooting 60HE (looks great for gaming) but which switches would be best to build my first keyboard, looking at the keychron. Just not sure on switches, and does not need to be the newest kit. something reponsive for games like COD etc. and then easy to use for games like Anno 1800, Total War etc and emulator games like pac-man, mario kart - to some offie type work

[@DygmaLab]

For games, we normally recommend fast switches like the Speed ones from Kailh. Within the speed family, you can have one of the fastest actuation points and can select if you want a linear, tactile, or clicky variation. Akko also makes some nicely priced switch options that you could check 😉

[@sauve76]

@@DygmaLab cheers for the reply. Looking at the keychron k4 v2. So will be ordered switches once I'm familiar with the board

[@brodan66]

Hey Dygmates! 🤘🏼 I'm a huge fan of your killer keyboard video content! 😍 As a keyboard noob, I've watched all your videos and I'm super excited for Defy to drop. 💻 I type for 8+ hours a day as a programmer, but I'm clueless when it comes to keyboard switches. 🤷🏻‍♂ My only previous experience is with the Magic Keyboard (RIP me, am I right?) 🤦🏻‍♂ Can you keyboard gurus give me a hand and recommend which switch to choose? 🙏🏼 I'm ready to level up my typing game and leave my Magic Keyboard days behind! 💪🏼 Thanks for all the amazing content, and keep up the awesome work! 🤘🏼 You guys are the real MVPs of the keyboard world! ⌨

[@DygmaLab]

For those coming from a Magic Keyboard, we always recommend the Kailh Silent Brown. If you add o-rings to reduce the travel distance, you'll get a feel that's as close as possible. The o-rings come included in the enhancement kit of all our keyboards 😊

[@yediydeyah78]

This was a very informative video! It helped explain what the numbers mean respective to actuation force in a way that makes it easy to understand). I currently have an MX-Blue based keyswitch keyboard it IT is KNOWN when I am typing 😂 I love the sound as well as the feedback (it definitely does take an EFFORT TO DEPRESS THE KEYS, but it's sooooooo worth it if you're a fast touch typist 😁). I supported the Dygma Defy campaign and ordered Khail Silent Browns as I wanted to be able to type and not have to be on mute while on (work) calls. I'm sure that I'll switch these out once I get a chance to hear how they sound and feel how they respond to fast typing.

[@DygmaLab]

You're gonna love the Kailh Silent Browns, they are very silent but very tactile too. Really nice "bump".

[@ianmurray9143]

First time keyboard builder here, I have a bit of a problem. I bought the Keychron V1 barebone knob kit from keychron along with some of their cherry profile double shot PBT key caps. The problem I am having is that all of the switches that I wanted to get were north facing rgb switch’s but the keyboard is a south facing rgb keyboard. I was hoping you could recommend some good tactile, south facing switch’s where i can feel the activation but still have a nice thoccc sound (so they sound like legos being built) and aren’t too loud. Thank you so much!

[@DygmaLab]

Hi Ian, You can use any switch model. The lights are facing south, but the legs of the switch are pinned in the north area. You won't have problems with the LEDs, the part of the switch that lets the light shine, will be on top of them. As for which specific model to pick, Boba UT4 or Durock V1 or V2 match the parameters, but that's a very personal choice. You might prefer lighter (and cheaper) switches, such as Kailh Speed Copper, so the best we can recommend is for you to test some and decide which feel better for you 🤗

[@belphegor_dev]

Very useful video. Will show this to anyone I introduce the hobby to in the future.

[@DygmaLab]

Thank you very much for the comment, glad to be able to help to bring more people into the rabbit hole 😉

[@sumanth94]

Need more beginners videos like which is the best hot swap keyboard to buy and how to use it etc

[@DygmaLab]

Thank you, we've noted the suggestion😊 Do you have other suggestions on which videos would be good to have?

[@sumanth94]

@@DygmaLab Hi, every year students join college and eveyone plans on building a setup to work on. and for complete beginners we dont have a one stop channel where there is a playlist on how to start with keyboards etc. I would like your channel to be a one stop solution where everyone can come and check on the playlist where there is knowlefge sharing on how swaps, how to build, lube, switches etc. Thank you for accepting my request

[@jineshd495]

Hi Dygma team, what switch comes close to a MacBook M1 pro 2021 keyboard? Thanks.

[@DygmaLab]

For that we always recommend Kailh Silent Brown, but keep in mind that mechanical switches are very different from the scissor switches of a Macbook. That's the closest, but it's gonna feel different.

[@babybloc]

The purple without palm pads is making me want it more and more. So much purple. 💜 Wish you showed some rgb color layouts with the different case colors. I’d like to see how they stand out and match with the different backgrounds The renders images look fantastic, but don’t show custom rgb usage

[@DygmaLab]

We have some pictures on our web and on sociales, but I guess we should make a public photo album with EVERYTHING we have. Because it's a lot 😅

[@MonuMedia]

Perfect timing! I was just about to order a raise next week!

[@DygmaLab]

YAY 🎉

[@sabbir7277]

Thanks for your Great Expiations 😍

[@DygmaLab]

We are glad you like it! 🙌

[@ciaojay7025]

I do get higher wpm with linears. But I feel satisfied with typing on clickies

[@DygmaLab]

Makes sense... The feel of clickies is very satisfying indeed, the problem is that they sound too loud sometimes 🤷

[@dgvigil]

This vid is so informative I'm subscribing to the channel.

[@DygmaLab]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🥰

[@Boomerisacat218]

this was a great help.

[@DygmaLab]

We are glad it helped you! 👏👏👏

[@favvz8088]

I heard the sound of what someone called a creamy sounding switch. I didn't hear you mention this, what is it and what's the difference from these you just showed in this video?

[@DygmaLab]

We use creamy to describe the sound of a keyboard, not only the switch. These other video explains it better: kzbin.infoTlVaUv1QpM4

[@meralharbes]

6:53 A green version of your nice Aluminum plates has really captured my heart!

[@DygmaLab]

Thanks a lot! It belongs to an special edition run we made last Christmas. We don't have them available at the store, but if you were interested in them, fire an email to [e-mail]. Our customer delight team is very resourceful and might be able to get you one 😉

[@egaming2023]

I really like the Dygma but with Opto mechanical switches and Lekker switches of the wooting can this board really hold up in gaming with a 1.1 actuation and no ability to mod in opto or lekkers? Does shape reign supreme even with older switches in gaming?

[@DygmaLab]

Those switches are a great innovation, and they are definitely something we want to explore. Right now, we are focused on comfort and ergonomics because we believe it’s the key differential when you game, but there’s much more we can do next. 💪

[@kevinh5448]

How do I know which to get? I seriously have been typing on crappy laptop keyboards for years. My hands hurt and I’m aging. So I am looking to buy a better keyboard. Which do I get? I’m a teacher and often need to type during class.

[@DygmaLab]

Sorry to hear about the pain, but since you`re already taking action, it will be gone in no time 💪 As for which to buy, are you referring to switches or the keyboard? If it's the keyboard, we'd recommend you get something that improves your hand position and does not push the wrists together, search for more info on split keyboards and choose within your budget and preferences; any of them will improve your hand posture and help with the pain. This video might help kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2mplnWGh6qtkKM Since most of those models are mechanical, we'd recommend something not very noisy and with good touch, the Kailh Silent Brown, if you like tactile or the Gateron Yellow switches are great options to improve the typing experience; hope this was of some help!

[@ploluap]

I bought the raise with Cherry MX Red and it really alleviate the pain from my RSI compared to membrane keyboards

[@DygmaLab]

Nice! Glad to hear that it worked out for you 🥰

[@berserker_2886]

Which switches would be most similar to those on my razer tartarus?

[@DygmaLab]

Which Razer Tartarus is? The V2 or the Pro?

[@berserker_2886]

@@DygmaLab how would I find out? Traded it with my friend for a psu

[@arjunsamuel]

Hello there, Hope you can help me!! I would like to get the Keychron K 10 UK iso with quiet switch with a slightly high activation force with tactility. Is this ppossioble? Would it work with thekeyswitch I'd like? Please I wo udl appreciate your help. Tahnks in advance.

[@DygmaLab]

The K10 is hot swappable so you could change the switches for the ones that you like 😊

[@arjunsamuel]

@@DygmaLab than you so much.

[@-mikog8tor]

is there a chart with all the info like travel distances, activation forces etc?

[@DygmaLab]

Yes, there is :-) dygma.com/products/switches

[@jonasan-san]

can o-rings be used with box switches or any switch with a wall around the stem?

[@DygmaLab]

Oh yeah! No problem at all with that. The Silent Brown and Silent Pinks we sell have this wall around the stem and they can work with o-rings just fine 😉

[@helalchowdhury]

Learnt a lot

[@DygmaLab]

Thank you Helal ❤️

[@vishveshhiremath]

What keyboard are you using in the videos?

[@DygmaLab]

It's the Dygma Raise 😀😊

[@liowyew]

How do buy switches that don't hurt fingertip due to hard bottom-out

[@DygmaLab]

In this case, you can select easy to press switches and avoid bottoming out, releasing the key when it was activated. A good idea would also be to consider light tactile switches, this way you can feel when the key was activated 🥰

[@liowyew]

You did not include the low profile and optical switches. The lighest switch is Keychron low profile optical switch white which has an operating force of 30, 1.1mm pre travel and 2.5mm travel.

[@DygmaLab]

Thank you for letting us know about that. We actually mentioned only the switches available in our store 😅

[@mellsc766]

Can anyone confirm that the Gateron Yellow 2.0 don't cause cherry interference with north facing keyboards?

[@DygmaLab]

I can confirm that the Gateron Yellow 2.0 don't cause cherry interference with our keycaps. Not on the Raise and not on the Defy.

[@Mangamusicfangirl]

Please don't mind me, just hesitating in between two switches for the Raise 2😂 4:59 7:18

[@DygmaLab]

No worries ;-) If you tell us what use you are thinking about we might be able to help.

[@Mangamusicfangirl]

@DygmaLab I type a lot of documents and use excel quite often. Sound is also a criteria, since I am a night owl and I don't want hubby to hate me while I type at 3am in the morning🤣

[@DygmaLab]

@Mangamusicfangirl In that case I would go for the Kailh Silent Brown 😊

[@Mangamusicfangirl]

@@DygmaLab Yep, I think that is a wise choice also. Thanks a lot ^^

[@bakakafka4428]

What's the latest on the ETA of the Defy? Anyone know?

[@DygmaLab]

Right now the ETA on the Defy is late January, but we're in the middle of the wireless certificacion, and that could affect the estimated shipping date.

[@bakakafka4428]

@@DygmaLab Thanks for the update.

[@liowyew]

When buying a switch, sellers usually don't show the close-up

[@DygmaLab]

Yeah, that's true. Before buying switches, always check reviews and information on different stores 😉

[@GalenCrayn]

There are VERY loud linear switches...

[@DygmaLab]

You're right! Most of them can be tamed with O-rings, for example. We also have Silent linears available for everyone interested in silent typing 🥷

[@sqwert654]

I was a fan of linear. But noticed I tend to bottom out the keys. Looking for Silent tactile though for working at home, with very short travel

[@DygmaLab]

The Kailh Speed Coppers are a good transition from linear to tactile. They are fast, silent enough, and the bump is less noticeable than in the Kailh Silent Browns, for example!

[@essencesampang2778]

Are u Filipino or am I tripping?

[@DygmaLab]

Yes I am, proud pinay!

[@arturomorales966]

I miss the days when kids talked about drugs. Now I feel like a huge part of my typist life has always been hidden from me.

[@DygmaLab]

🤔

[@i.p.freely1864]

I feel you. The moment I found my right switch I new what I was missing and after that there was no going back...

[@deprecor1]

I don't know if I hate or love this girl's humor 😵‍💫

[@DygmaLab]

Always choose love over hate 🥰

[@jmisc]

They should just stop making this video, and focus on delivering the products. All talk no product.

[@DygmaLab]

We're also developing the product while we record the videos, but while we're at it, we can also provide some info on the switches. In regards to the Defy, we were able to pass all the certifications and now we'll start with the manufacture. Those setbacks were not what we desired, but we're on track for the relase, apologies for the inconvenience.

[@Toletanus]

Blue clicky-ultra-noisy-switch-lover team here!! 💪😗

[@DygmaLab]

Okay! They do feel great, no question on that. The major problem is that people may not like you that much 😅

[@tuananhdo1870]

I know you love the sound but not love the feeling of it. I chose feeling not chose sound

[@lavneetjanagal]

The title should have been "Which keyboard SWITCHES should you buy from us?", This is the worst keyboard channel with either misleading or no information.

[@DygmaLab]

I mean, it's a guide intended to help our customers choose the switches for our keyboards. But if you want a more extensive comparison, we have one in our blog dygma.com/blogs/stories/the-ultimate-guide-to-mechanical-keyboard-switches-for-2020