According to my mum this video is “less boring when you play it on the big TV” so maybe try that if you’re not getting into it!
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
The Netflix shows have officially been added to the official MCU timeline on Disney Plus +!
@FreddyKurganNimmo8 ай бұрын
@MisterJRyanKZbin - But for reasons still unexplained, the 18 episode Agent Carter series still isn't🤷♂️
@MisterJRyanYouTube8 ай бұрын
@@FreddyKurganNimmo that’s so weird to me, especially as Jarvis appears in endgame, the producers and writers like I said in the vid, and the fact the show being set in the past isn’t going to cause any continuity problems!
@Nulono2 жыл бұрын
16:37 This isn't a contradiction. Bobbi Morse is never actually called "Agent 19" or "Mockingbird" in the show, and even if she had been, it's not like codenames have never changed hands in the MCU before. Also, regarding Kingpin having to rebuild his empire after the Blip, that's literally the answer the creators of the show give.
@mister_lad2 жыл бұрын
adding to this, we see the Darkhold can change it's appearance to be better understood by its reader in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., so it's not a contradiction that it looks different in WandaVision
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
the contradiction is that the snap never happens, making it an alternate universe The characters should come back in secret wars
@apezcal4322 жыл бұрын
Exactly and even if thats not the case maybe laura just passed on the codename to bobbi after retiring. Not to mention at the same time as thanos in wakanda in chicago the agents are fighting graviton aka talbot. the darkhold also in doctor strange multiverse of madness is said to be more then one copy it could simply be another copy. because ghost rider took his into another dimension. And the whole time travel thing gives them a reason to not react to the blip also the agents could not do much The avengers could not either so it could simply be when everyone had accepted that they were all gone. As for inhumans a lot were killed taken by jiaying or saved. When the agents went back and forward in time they went to two different timelines and returned to the old timeline.
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
@@apezcal432 to me when they time travelled in season 5 it caused the timelines to split so that in their timeline the avengers beat thanos Everything else can be explained by this
@apezcal4322 жыл бұрын
@@minerpvpgaming2160 Interesting theory but mine is just that when they fight graviton thanos is about to snap when coulson is gone the people are fading. They cant do much about it and then have to deal with sarge and time travel during endgame. Because they have been in three timelines. First one is the mcu where they live and return to in the last episode while fighting the chronicoms. The second when the went to the lighthouse in the future they stopped that from happening to their future so its another timeline. And the last where deke currently is as of season 7 wher there is no daisy jiaying dies sooner and deke leads shield. So in my theory they returned back to 616 in the final episode. Just my theory
@williamusher65572 жыл бұрын
Agents of Shield was SO good!
@robertw319682 жыл бұрын
It was and still is my favorite Marvel shows of all of them
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@robertw31968 That and/or Agent Carter for me, which I really wish got at least one more season!
@CR0WYT2 жыл бұрын
While Phase 4 hasn't lived up to most people's expectations so far, bringing the multiverse theory into the MCU was a brilliant idea. Being able to bring back old actors reprising their roles whether or not their stories were canon brings so many opportunities for great stories. We just have to find the right directors to make them.
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I 100% agree, it makes me super grateful I grew up with the Tobey Spider-Man movies then got to enjoy and watch the mcu grow from the very start. I think this will end in the Battleworld story and just be a huge celebration movie of marvel from across franchises. I suggest looking into that it’s a fun idea even if it doesn’t happen in the movies! Thanks for your comment bro :)
@wynsfield2 жыл бұрын
The darkhold in wandavidion is a copy said Wong in multiverse of madness. Therefore the darkholds in AoS and runaways are most likely to be just copies too. There are many copies of the darkhold.
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu2 жыл бұрын
Except we saw a copy from the multiverse which is exactly like the one in Wandavision, so that seems to be the base design of the MCU for the Darkhold and not the AOS one. It could still be a copy, but why are they called the same if they are different
@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uuAcording to AOS, the Darkhold looks different to different people Someone more in tune with magical knowledge would see it more mystically than the Agents or Elias' scientists
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Жыл бұрын
@@jesusramirezromo2037 except that Morgan Le Fey had a very similar DH in Runways to the one in AOS and she is a Witch.
@BrainDeadHorror2 жыл бұрын
"Because multiverse" is definitely a cop out in my opinion. I'm also 100% fine with it
@dionysisnance42042 жыл бұрын
i wish agent of shield was cannon i want to see coulsion ,may quake and ftiz and simmons on the big screen
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Back in the early days it really kept the mcu plodding along too I felt
@robertw319682 жыл бұрын
@Dionysis Nace I wish it was cannon also. It's my favorite show out of all the Marvel shoes. I still go back and rewatch it every year.
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
@@robertw31968 what’s your favourite season? For me, I really loved 3
@dariusmoore4670 Жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbinseason 4 lmd’s the framework Aida and fitz as the second head of hydra was hell
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@dariusmoore4670 4 was great too yeah I loved the LMD stuff
@rob_patrick12 жыл бұрын
I hate that cop out tbh, so I personally choose to believe that it's all canon until Feige says it explicitly otherwise. As for the same actors, just simple doppelgangers, we have those all over the world.
@harrywaters28972 жыл бұрын
I think these shows should be considered cannon because of the references and what not
@vaggelistzanos98122 жыл бұрын
For me they can be still mcu cannon
@spooderman24YT2 жыл бұрын
My thesis on daredevil and kingpin’s situation is that they are variants, but the Netflix shows are extremely similar to the MCU variants of those characters (kingpins physique is a prime example of this) and the reason Kingpin needed to rebuild his empire, is because Daredevil season 3.
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
Netflix should stay canon, AOS should be an alternate universe and the characters should come back in secret wars They should just say the end of daredevil and the other shows was before the snap
@grandsonofvader2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, the MCU has shown that time travel makes alternate realities/timelines, and Season 5 makes a big time travel change and so everything Agents of Shield seasons 1-4 is canon to mainline MCU but somehow the time travel shenanigans in Season 5 means Thanos doesn't do the snap.
@InitialAA Жыл бұрын
S6-S7 dealt with timeline travel shenanigans similar to Endgame, so they didn't need to acknowledge Thanos.
@glenwaldrop81662 жыл бұрын
I just got a shiver when you showed Feige taking over without moderation... Lucas made excellent movies back in the day because he had a vision of craziness and others reigned him in and made a trilogy out of his craziness. Feige may well need reigns to keep him going, the last bit of the MCU has been less than stellar. It is often easier to be creative inside a set of limitations than it is to be creative without any limitations at all, counterintuitive but it's how a lot of people work.
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
I agree I think you make an excellent point. Phase 5 and how the majority of people feel about it really speaks to your point.
@GooCrewGaming2 жыл бұрын
I love this. I’ve seen bits and pieces of certain shows in the past but never actually attempted to figure out why nothing quite lined up lol. Just kind of thought it did but I hadn’t seen enough of it. Thank you, great video!
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Ty friend ❤️
@lindamagagula74762 жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin James Ryan, over the years I have watched all Agents Of Shields, Dagger & Cloak series. I don't understand why did Marvel Studios canned these shows😭😭
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
@@lindamagagula7476 AOS finished, if they dragged it out it would have been worse
@DedricSilva2 жыл бұрын
I want these shows to be remain canon, but at the same time I think they might as well be in a separate timeline at this point. At least the franchise is expanding with the multiverse. But what I want to know is will they keep some of the shows like Daredevil TV MA? I always thought Feige wasn’t a fan of mature content
@spaceagepenguin2 жыл бұрын
Daredevil: Born Again is a TV-14 soft reboot, a little obvious
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
netflix should be canon, AOS should be multiverse
@robwasilewski92732 жыл бұрын
I hope they bring back all the characters from Netflix shows, and bring the agent's of shield, and runaways, and other shows. Finally got a great actor playing daredevil, punisher, quake, and king pen.
@beelzeboo Жыл бұрын
“King Pen 🖊 “ 😂
@SalAvenueNJ Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Agents Of SHIELD fan. In fact I'm about to dive into the "Framework" storyline. And I think these characters should have been showing up in the movies the whole time. I've heard that there was some kind of friction between Jeph Loeb and Kevin Feige which lead to AOS and the Netflix shows to be ignored by the movies on purpose.
@SaiyanQuad922 жыл бұрын
All of them are
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
On an update to this, the Netflix shows have indeed been confirmed as canon now and added to the official mcu timeline on Disney plus. Still no word on shield though
@Comic_Geek20012 жыл бұрын
This video unscrambled my mind and I cannot thank you enough good sir
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks mate! I’m really glad you enjoyed and that it helped! 👍🏼
@itsdirtypantz39312 жыл бұрын
That was the most dramatic pufferfish I've ever seen! Also, I think all shows pre-Wandavision are now kinda being treated as auditions for the MCU. If the characters/shows were successful, shoehorn them into the MCU somehow (variants definitely seem like the easiest way).
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
It was hit and miss tbh, I personally loved shield, had its problems but it had a strong fanbase, agent Carter was fantastic, I wish they continued it to show how shield started. Daredevil was by far the most popular Netflix show, I think the others were mixed but iron fist was poorly received by most. So overall a mixed bag, but you’re right, it also gave audiences the experience of what a tv show in a movie universe feels like
@robyn907032 жыл бұрын
In Spider-Man Far from Home they were talking about the blip and how it effected some of the students and even Michelle Jones (MJ) called Flash out on that which resulted in the waitress taking away his drink. In Agents of Shield there was a quantum jump time travel blip that brought in on board the quinjet Agent Sousa. Which version of Sousa did he ended up in the show a variant or the real thing? Agents of Shield, WandaVision, and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness isn't the only shows that have a season or 2 which revolves around the Darkhold. Behold the show Runaways season 3 that brought in Morgan Le Fey. Which bags the question did Wanda really destroy all the Darkholds or did she left one out and forgot about it? Even if she did, what's her intention keeping an eye on things and waiting for her time to make an appearance again? In the end of Multiverse of Madness she disappeared with that faint glow of red light. Is the show her next world to conquer or something? Where did Wanda go?
@CaptainPikeachu2 жыл бұрын
It is my hope that with Secret Wars happening and all this multiverse drama, what they end up doing is remix the canon main MCU timeline, basically kinda reset the universe, so this way they can re-include back into the main timeline whatever stuff they want and bring the actors they want back. It's obvious that at some point Marvel TV stuff stopped connecting with the main MCU, but I still hope for many of those shows and its characters/actors to be acknowledged, most especially Agents of SHIELD given how much it carried the Marvel TV side and really was like a testing ground for concepts and tones and styles that the Disney+ shows are doing now. And really, if Kevin Feige is willing to give the Inhumans show a nod with Anson Mount's return as Black Bolt, then I want to see AOS and other show characters make some returns in this multiverse saga. Even if they don't stay, I would love to just see them reappear to help in this ultimate fight.
@PenneySounds Жыл бұрын
9:30 Sooo, in April of 2016, you saw Civil War in the theatre and you recognise Alfre Woodard from her role in Luke Cage. A show that wouldn't release until that September. Right.
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
Her casting in Luke Cage was announced like a year before the show came out
@MrsN40 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic breakdown!!
@DarthOminis Жыл бұрын
I think SHIELD seasons 1-5 are canon because while the snap is not mentioned, it is likely that it ended just before the snap. As for 6-7, I think that they happen in a reality where all of the events of the MCU take place, all the shows and everything, EXCEPT Infinity War. I think the Defender-Verse is canon, along with the other shows. As for the Darkhold thing, I think Agatha made copies of the Earth-616 Darkhold to spread chaos (Radcliffe went insane after reading it and Aida broke her programming with a loop her original form would not find due to her programming), but we'll find out in Coven of Chaos, I hope.
@glenwaldrop81662 жыл бұрын
Going by one of the current theories of time travel in fiction, there are always ripples when you time travel, you try to keep the problems to a minimum and hopefully the ripples won't change anything significant, however, the ripples in the timeline go in both directions. This would explain how Agents of SHIELD was canon then wasn't, they are on an alternate timeline due to their own meddling with time, the ripples went back to before their time travel.
@MUISSJGDAVON80902 жыл бұрын
Yeah Time Travel explains all these Shows being Canon!
@glenwaldrop81662 жыл бұрын
@@MUISSJGDAVON8090 well, I mean... yeah.
@MUISSJGDAVON80902 жыл бұрын
@@glenwaldrop8166 LOL🤣!
@giovangciccareli182910 ай бұрын
Its all canon despite what Feige decides on a random Tuesday is in or out.
@PenneySounds Жыл бұрын
The shows are canon. They're all in the MCU. The last 3 seasons of Agents may involve a branched timeline, but that's still canon. The rest is all in the same universe and timeline as the films. So many things you've said here are wrong.
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
Judging by your 2 comments on this video you seem very angry about this 😂 I respect your opinion though, thanks for watching!
@kklljj70 Жыл бұрын
Great video keep em up my dude ILY
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
Bro I love you too for that comment haha thank you fr 👍🏼 comments like this encourage me to keep going
@Jellybob6911 ай бұрын
Aaaaand you were wrong. They're officially, undeniably canon, like they were always advertised to be.
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
People get so mad like I have an agenda for shows not be canon haha I wish everything was, shield still isn’t canon, only the Netflix shows have been added to the mcu timeline on Disney plus. shield was my favourite but as of now it’s not canon and it’s gonna be hard to make it so
@llekrambdier Жыл бұрын
Fitz explained the three multiverse theory in 30 seconds better than Endgame did in 2 hours.
@ema402011 ай бұрын
the agent carter show it's completely damaged by endgame's ending, unless that ending happens after the events of the show. but it would still be pretty fucked up due to peggy getting in a relationship with another dude. the netflix shows are not affected by the snap, that thing happens after all of those events.
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
Yeah all of the netflix shows have been added to the MCU timeline on Disney+ and have all been placed before the events of Infinity War which was the only thing they could do. The ending of Endgame regarding Agent Carter is a tricky one, even Marvel themselves can't decide if that is a new branched timeline or if cap just went back to the earlier time period in the sacred MCU timeline. But im with you on that, is there a scene right after that where peggys new husband comes home to find her slow dancing with cap in the living room? Haha thanks for the comment man!
@paulfortney47252 жыл бұрын
With the multi verse when Disney buys Warner (and by extension DC), and it will happen, we can get that JLA/Avenger movie. George Perez's cover from issue 4 is your poster.
@toothbrushpaste Жыл бұрын
ALL OF THEM
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
Why you so angry man?
@toothbrushpaste Жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin I’m not lol , just answering your question
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@toothbrushpaste haha it looked like you were shouting 😂 and some people get annoyed when I say I don’t believe some shows to be canon
@toothbrushpaste Жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin haha but most shows are canon . I suppose the most questionable show that canonicity is questionable is AOS , but it can be easily fixed . Most marvel TV projects end within 2018 so they don’t really reference the snap because we’ll they don’t have too. Only other show that should be effected by the snap and isn’t is runaways but again that can be easily solved because half of them where in the dark dimension when it occurred
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@toothbrushpaste at the end of the day there’s some great shows we can still look back on and enjoy! 👍🏼
@dionysisnance42042 жыл бұрын
I'm with you chole Bennett is just hot
@CDUAFIFTH2 жыл бұрын
yeah, as well Season seven of agents of SHIELD is basically time line shennanigans. I really loved it but the resolution of season 7 was the same used in End Game where they were protected in time by going in the micro dimention using Antman technology
@terronicle5452 жыл бұрын
GREAT video bro!
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@MegaChorro123 Жыл бұрын
I always thought they were all canon but just kept a bit separate to give them different feels from the rest of the MCU
@FirstCivDavid Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of all these shows ranked?
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
No but I may make one! Subscribe so you don’t miss it ;)
@Higuitamax2 жыл бұрын
She-Hulk makes it clearer... or muddier.
@xiaolonglee2525 Жыл бұрын
in my head Canon Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S1-S7 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: SLINGSHOT Agents Carter Helstrom Runaways S1-S3 Cloak and Dagger S1-S2 Daredevil S1-S3 Jessica Jones S1-S2 Ironfist S1-S2 The Punisher S1-S2 Luke Cage S1-S2 The Defenders are all Canon, then I just consider INHUMANS are Canon from multiverse
@shashanksam2 жыл бұрын
watch daredevil for sure
@mrpurplejeans Жыл бұрын
It isn't necessarily true that the Netflix shows never "mention" the marvel things luke cage, Jessica Jones etc directly mention the "green dude and his crew" we also see Matt Murdock in the MCU in both she hulk and Spiderman films, I have a theory that the Netflix street stuff just isn't notable and they don't care for the other meta humans (but it's very likely the defenders and MCU films are in the same universe, if not I'd say they are a different universe)
@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
I think the only non canon show is AOS from S5 onwards, given they messed with Time travel And maybe part of Runaways Other than that, No other show really contradicts the movies as they are very low stakes and and don't have world changing plots
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm not denying it's something that is still up for debate!
@fiqsar72 жыл бұрын
The point is watch all of Tv Series then watch it without hoping it would be connected to main movie. Because the TV series is not bad at all😑. If u want it😑
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
Fr agents of shield and agent carter are my personal fave that I recommend watching regardless, but you’re right all the shows are fun and worth a look!
@blcskho14002 жыл бұрын
anything but runaways please
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
Haha I’ve never seen it was it that bad?
@ThePinkDragon2 жыл бұрын
LOved PEGGY Carter
@giovannigiovanni.72202 жыл бұрын
They have always been MCU canon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TFaoynjN6AZ7s
@jordanambrosethethird85822 жыл бұрын
People want to move the shows to the multiverse which is dumb.
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Well I think it’s important to note that Kevin Feige said this when still under the regime of Ike Perlmutter, so he gave a very political answer. But look man, I’d like to think they were canon too I’m not against these shows at all, I’m a fan, I’m just trying to help make sense of all of the contradictions from the tv shows and in my opinion, the multiverse angle is the best way to keep these shows as canon as possible
@jordanambrosethethird85822 жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin It's not canon if it's in a alternate universe. It's not the best way to go.
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanambrosethethird8582 I just can’t see another way tbh bro, cos if it’s canon then i think it’s just disrespectful that they’ve ignored those shows, particularly shield
@jordanambrosethethird85822 жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin It's not disrespectful and it's not if they are canon they are canon.
@PlaystationGamerZX Жыл бұрын
Agent Carter always be cannon to me, it still fit perfectly for the mcu cannon, so i just gonna keep agent carter cannon, Netflix Marvel can still be cannon, Disney just have to announce about them being cannon, Agent Of Shield is probably only show that might not have a chances to get cannon
@xmatobujnakx Жыл бұрын
my head canon for agents of shield ...they are canon /on main timeline to 4 season in moment when they travel with white monolith and come back from future they actually jump to other branch where thanos coming but something happen and snap dont happen .. rest of seasons are on different timelines too and they end on whole different timeline where is mack director and where is coulson academy...AoS darkhold is newer copy exactly like agatas darkhold is copy of wundagore carvings.. agent 13 its just code name like others dont make sense give new numbers when someone left shield .. Laura Barton was 1st mockingbird and when left shield boby take her place as agent 13 and new mockingbird..
@ThePinkDragon2 жыл бұрын
wanted to see a snap reference
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
Yeah in agents of shield? Me too! That’s the show I wish was canon the most tbh. The Netflix shows have just been added to the official mcu timeline on Disney plus and confirmed canon! Looks like they set them all before the snap to avoid that problem
@Christian395212 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Peter Mensah who played General Joe Greller on The Incredible Hulk. And then Qovas in season 5 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. People use the time travel excuse. But they are not canon. I think they'll use the variant excuse. From what I'm hearing, Feige is just going to use the same actors. At least with Daredevil, Jessica Jones and The Punisher. Same actors, different versions. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. seasons 1 and 2, Agent Carter season 1 and Daredevil season 1 yes, that started out being canon. It stopped being canon in August of 2015. When Feige started reporting directly to Bob Iger. Noticed that after season 2, we don't see actors from the movies in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. And if we see any, is cause Feige had no plans for them. Like the president. Or the Hydra character that appeared in the first Avengers.
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
That’s true he did! And yes I think you’re referring to Gideon Mallick?
@Christian395212 жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin that's the one. Played by the late Powers Boothe.
@godzillafan120211 ай бұрын
well i think the netflix shows are “canon canon” now but i think shows like agents of shield runaways and inhumans are just branched timelines. i also think agent carter is still canon because it doesnt contradict anything at all
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with that 👍🏼 all the Netflix shows have now been added to official mcu timeline on Disney+, I did a video a week ago about Daredevil and the Netflix shows becoming canon, thanks for the comment man 👍🏼
@@MisterJRyanKZbin of course bro. im glad the netflix shows are canon now and Born Again will basically be a sequel to it. there are too many good stories in the netflix show they cant just ignore. as much as i wish agents of shield was canon im also kinda glad it isnt and fits better in a branched timeline (for ghost rider lmao)
@Imforeverblowingbubbles20235 ай бұрын
I really liked Runaways and Cloak n Dagger, I assume because the events are not happened in New York with all the main MCU heros, it's just a bunch of kids running around saving the city and some evil creepy parents doing rituals and human Traffcking are not a avengers level threat(I'll call it a Shield/Defenders Level threat), that's why it's not mentioned in the movie. Cloak n Dagger did mention Stark Industries and Misty Knight from Defenders series. Runaways mentioned Wakanda.
@charlieenglishactor2 жыл бұрын
I like to think they are canon but everyone is too busy to notice on what is going on. As for Mahershala Ali? Blade and Cottonmouth are twin brothers but where separated by birth and didn’t know each other existed…
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Kevin Feige to say the exact same thing 🤣
@charlieenglishactor2 жыл бұрын
@@MisterJRyanKZbin I would probably drop dead if he does say that😂
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
@@charlieenglishactor we’ll just bring you back like Coulson
@jonathancharron73602 жыл бұрын
Gemma chan plays two different characters. Why not ali?
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancharron7360 yep but Tbf she is blue in captain marvel and not as instantly recognisable as the same character from eternals
@benbabcock28402 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Season 6 and 7 of Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. aren't Canon they can just say it was all a dream or something and after Season 5 they were incapacitated in ice or something
@hermanmunster46072 жыл бұрын
It'd be a shame though, 6 & 7 were great seasons. As an AoS fan myself, frankly I just don't want the show to be canon. It's better for both the MCU and AoS that they part ways permanently
@Indeeee2 жыл бұрын
Or we can say that season 6 & 7 somehow takes place in an alternate timeline.
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
I think the timelines split at the end of season 5 and 6 and 7 are in a timeline where the snap never happened
@DarthOminis Жыл бұрын
OR we could say it's a 4x14- 4x21 incident where the team are trapped in the Framework and replaced by LMDs that cannot display emotion
@Boxingcat23 Жыл бұрын
I guess Iron Man one and Incredible Hulk are in a different universe now? Since Rhodey and Bruce were re-cast?
@MisterJRyanYouTube Жыл бұрын
No because those actors are clearly playing the same characters, unlike the ones I mentioned
@raphaelcaamano18842 жыл бұрын
Canon - Daredevil Seasons 1-3, Jessica Jones Season 1, The Punisher Season 1, Runaways, Cloak and Dagger, Agents of Shield Season 3, 4, 5, Agent Carter Season 1 and 2, Wandavision, Loki Season 1 Non-Canon - Agents of Shield Season 1, 2, 6, and 7, Inhumans, The Defenders, Jessica Jones Season 2 and 3, The Punisher Season 2, Luke Cage, Iron-Fist, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, What If, Hawkeye, She-Hulk
@marionbaggins2 жыл бұрын
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, What If, (not this one) Hawkeye, She-Hulk are Canon...Any of the MCU Disney+ Orignal are Canon
@MisterJRyanYouTube11 ай бұрын
Well just been confirmed all Netflix shows are canon and have been added to the MCU timeline on Disney + I just did a video explaining why - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2VZK1tjrmaoZYsi=iK6xLyP3JsbRoVFc
@clutchmannio3172 жыл бұрын
WOW he is sooo cute
@MisterJRyanYouTube2 жыл бұрын
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@axtagran7504 Жыл бұрын
Even though I was never on board with the show being Canon, and as much as I disliked the 1st half of agents of shield S1, and parts of S2, at least if you told me its canon when referring to just the 1st 2 seasons, id at least understand you and not call you wrong. but S3 and 4 feel very disconnected, as well as S5, until thanos is mentioned along with super vague attacks in NY that lead to nowhere And I'm sorry for fans of this show. BUT 50% OF THE UNIVERSE DIED, there was 10 of them is less than 7/1000, and from what little of the public appears, nobody seems sad and there's quite a few populated areas considering billions are almost immediately dead. This would be like in Clone Wars Season 7 if we still got the hints it took place around revenge of the S*** like Dooku being dead, but then completely ignored order 66
@rifleorcagames7 ай бұрын
wowwwwwwwwwwww
@qaskew242 жыл бұрын
Cannon to what? The Marvel Comic Book, where all this begins, or The Thing that was made up by non-Marvel Fans for movie and TV purposes? To me, the cannon is Stan Lee Marvel. All others are non-cannon. These shows are telling true Marvel fans that they can turn someone else dream into their own. They have to be canon to the comic book nothing more or nothing less.
@minerpvpgaming21602 жыл бұрын
the mcu
@jairose1052 Жыл бұрын
I've always considered that Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Punisher; were during the five years that half of humanity was dusted. Even though it's not the case, I like to imagine that the people are either traumatized or feel like it's the new normal that half the world's population is gone. This will explain why Daredevil and Kingpin made appearances in the MCU. Agents of SHIELD was always connected to the MCU. I feel like, due to the time traveling and other supernatural events that occurred, it was why they were never dusted or perhaps were sent to another universe when the Avengers did their time traveling adventure and when they fixed everything, they returned to their original universe. I've only watched the Gifted, the Inhumans, and a few episodes of Cloak and Dagger, so it's a bit hard for me to try to add these shows in. Cloak and Dagger fits with the Defenders, which fits with the MCU, so they're not so hard, but it is kinda hard to determine the time since I haven't finished the series. As for the Gifted. It could fit within the five year gap, but there's way to many errors to be ignored. So in my opinion, I feel like it could fit better within the current MCU. As of now, the MCU is currently in the year 2024/2025. The last few movies and TV series were... Thor: Love and Thunder. Which took place mostly in Space with about a ten minute scene of Asgardians, in a village, in Norway, away from the "Humans." Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. Which mostly took place in Wakanda and the Ocean. There was maybe about 5 minutes worth of footage that took place otherwise but it never showed us how people are. And Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol 3. Which took place in Space. If we go back a little, we will see Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness; and Spider-Man: No Way Home. Which kept our main heros who could had interfere during the Gifted busy. Hawkeye, Falcon, and Winter Solider were busy with their own thing as well. From Ms Marvel, we know that Captain Marvel is (or was) in Space. The only available heros who could help were Antman and the Wasp.... But they recently had their own adventure in the Quantum Realm. So in my opinion, the Gifted fits perfectly within the current MCU while the Defenders takes place within the five year gap of the MCU, and agents of SHIELD ends the day the snap happened or right when everyone comes back. Whichever you think is better. I know there's two other shows, such as the Runaways and the New Mutants but I've haven't watched any episodes yet, so I don't know how to add them. As for the Ghost Rider tv show. I liked the show but since Agents of SHIELD has a Ghost Rider already, it makes no sense to try and fit the Ghost Rider(tv) into the MCU. If Marvel is careful, they could even fit the X-men and Fantastic 4(the 2005) movies into the MCU.