Which mid-drive Bafang motor to buy? (BBS01, BBS02, BBSHD)

[@ShareHobby]

I run a BBS02 500 watt mid drive with dual 36v 20AHr batteries. It has a maximum wattage rating of 750 watts, but have regularly seen 850 watt display readings. It’s mounted on a 29” dual suspension, 34t Shimano freewheel. I live in the US in an Appalachian Mountain state, so there are many hills. Bike is mostly used on street and rail-trails. It’s fun with dual battery DateX2 combiner setup. Really helps with lessen voltage sag on hills and in headwinds. I ride about 30-40 miles daily. I have to give minimum assistance when climbing most hills in PAS 4. It’s fun. I know I said that. But it really is all I feel the need for at the moment.🙂

[@troybrouillard5266]

I've been putting BBS02's on DH mountain bikes since 2015 to build as trail bikes. I've found 750W to be sufficient. I typically run a 36t "narrow-wide" chain ring w/ 10spd cassette and Shimano clutch derailleur. I definitely recommend Bafang products. Mid-drive is where it's at for bikes with rear suspension. I wouldn't put the weight of a hub motor on a "swingarm" but Bafang hub motors are great too. 👌

[@voltvehicles]

yeah 750w is mega powerful too

[@nicod974]

Definetly will build a bbshd on my next full suspension bike, geared hub, on a 52v system.

[@voltvehicles]

sounds very nice!!!

[@dragnar12]

Ull love it i used it for like 3-4 years now. But its limited to 27 km/h I love it

[@whitepawrolls]

I have owned the BBS02 for several years on 2 bikes in the US, and I FIRMLY say the need for more gears is NOT a bad thing. If you manage the power setting and the gearing right then your golden. NO hub motor with same specs will match your range. On one bike I have the 02, a 17.5ah battery, and a mega range 9 speed 11-52t drive train with default 46t (I think) front sproket, and 26" drive wheel. On power setting 2, and 7th speed throttle only I get around 60 miles keeping with the legal limit (for Texas) of a class 2 20mph, and I am NOT a small person at over 200lbs sometimes hauling a single wheel trailer. Pedal assist I can get over 150 with setting one (my preferred cadence) and still keeping the 20mph legal (for Texas) class 2 rating. The other has a 20ah battery 8 speed currently (going to change that in the near future), 24" drive wheel, and a tadpole trike getting about 10 miles better despite the extra weight, and also sometimes with the exact same trailer. Keep in mind I am also disabled and use this for shopping so I ALWAYS have cargo on board for return trips

[@magzire]

im using a 52v with a BBS02, and its more powerful than 48v

[@SpicyMushroom469]

48v does me. i worry about 52v getting too hot and damaging the controller/motor. 48v already get very hot at the end of a ride

[@magzire]

@@SpicyMushroom469 you can control the power via the usb tool. its actually a must to lower it! feels way more natural and saves components

[@joehiatt1992]

The bbs02 info says its not 52v compatible BUT all the guys who work on them say it is,ie johnnynerdout

[@Hadroncollider_]

It's not officialy compatible but works. Voltage limit of internal capacitors is 60V.

[@garyhoward4064]

@@Hadroncollider_Ive got one and works fine

[@voltvehicles]

Isnt it possible to buy certain versions from aliexpress that are 52v?? But isnt it not official?

[@HB-yq8gy]

Nice I just finished up a dual battery with a BBSO2 kind of heavy now with 48v-10.4 ah & 48v-20 ah "dual combiner 24v-72v" on a Trek 4500 26" My first run drove 16 mile with one giant hill the motor got very hot to touch! I thought it was damage but I dropped to a higher gear. But no more battery anxiety.

[@JoLe1991]

definitely the new torque sensing M435 possibly the M635. tuning requires the BESST tool though, but boy are these motors a game changer once the torque sensor is properly tuned

[@michaelfasher]

My advice is to get the smallest motor the 300 Watt motor with the biggest battery. Less wear on a bikes drive train. I commute thirty foor miles a day on a Giant Quick E with a 250 Watt motor. I can cruise along at 41 to 43 kilometres per hour. You drain battery cycles less as well.

[@voltvehicles]

depends on how much oomf you want :)))

[@solarwind907]

Makes sense. I like to pedal too.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

My 02 is running on 52 volts, out of the box. My HD also runs on 52 volts but with an aftermarket controller runs 50 amps (more about towing torque than top speed). I don't get bothered because I don't ride it like a goon. If you're not behaving like an idiot the police have more important concerns. My motors have similar cabling.

[@azdec]

Blablabla... my bbs02b works perfectly with a Samsung 1040wAh 52v 20A battery pack ! Controller is compatible but you must choose the right display 52v compatible.

[@johnsheetz6639]

Same here, the 500c had a option for it.

[@paolopetrozzi2213]

The 18650 cells are 3,65V each. In a battery, some producers round that number to 3,6V, totalling 48V; others round that number to 3,7V, totalling 52V. But the battery is the same. So, what does mean "Not 52V compatible"?! Thanks

[@Bobster986]

You are obviously a Bafang motor fan, but what are your thoughts on the Anando motors? Thanks 😊

[@LukeAMcDowell]

I live in the US. My son is a cop. The police here will never mess with you on an ebike unless you are causing problems.

[@voltvehicles]

hahaha xDDD

[@brianbassettnumber1]

That is total nonsense.

[@lee-tx5mw]

different for different areas .im in the uk and i ride pretty fast 40mph on my 1500w kit at 52v 26 amps .but ibarely ride my stealth bomber 5000w as its asking for hassle .it seems some bikes like stealth bombers and surrons etc are targeted .because the riders are usually pulling wheelies and ride like nutcases .like you said .

[@legalalien2923]

Driving while black is a myth then?

[@WillKruger-xw8nd]

yes@@legalalien2923

[@JohannesBrotBaum]

Bbs02 is 52v compatible but you need to lower the amp with PC if you want to use with high gearing because you can fry that controller easily with that overvolting

[@Goonerson1969]

Can l still use my existing crank arms ? as l want keep them, they are Hope and very beautiful

[@EdWilsonPhoto]

I'm a big heavy guy who has a big heavy dual susp. bike. It took about 30 seconds for me to spec the HD with a big batt. Torque sensing is a nice luxury, but not essential.

[@voltvehicles]

yeah true, depends a lot on how you want the riding experience to feel, some people even prefer cadence sensors.

[@zing913945]

Excellent video ! Thank you. I like the BBSHD ! Can it be set up for throttle only use ? Batteries are no problem

[@voltvehicles]

Thanks! Yes it can

[@lee-tx5mw]

thanks for the info my daughter has the bbs 01 with 48v battery on her bike and she loves it .i have a full suspension with a bbshd ill be finishi g very soon .i think it will be the right bike for me .i have a 1500w hub kit on a voodoo canzo ,which is pretty fast on the flat (40mph)but lacks a little uphill .a stealth bomber clone that is 72v 80 smp and is a bit heavy and faster than needed ,also attracts too much attention. and a 72v 60 amp hub motor setup on a specialised hardtail which im building atm too .bad idea i think its going to be rediculous .

[@dae3xt]

I can't wait to get the bbshd with the biggest battery. i will make a commuter .

[@voltvehicles]

nice! what battery size?

[@dae3xt]

@@voltvehicles I ended up getting this battery: Battery - 48V 20.3 Ah Whale Shark Ebike Battery (2900 18650 Cells). I know there is bigger but the built up bike is pretty powerful now.

[@ohsweetmystery]

What bike do you have that has an internal gear box? I would like to get an internally geared bike and convert it to an ebike.

[@alanjackson2638]

Spot Acme (made in Golden, Colorado)

[@britishnomad]

Bbshd rocks man 🤙

[@voltvehicles]

BBSHD!!! NOW SOON TONGSHENG TSDZ2ABCD

[@cilami]

​@@voltvehiclesIs that true?😮

[@samiajre6852]

thank you because that what i search on youtube : Best bafang 250 KIT

[@voltvehicles]

yeah 250w 48v bbs01 is really good for 250w

[@mortenhansen3455]

Is it true these motors does not work with a rear hub brake?

[@olegpetelevitch4443]

BBSHD 1400 watt ! if you want torque power speed ! Mine does 61 clicks 48 volt running 54.6 battery and a 58.8 battery ! 30 amp controller 8 speed ! throttle and pedal sensor dual suspension ! MID DRIVE ONLY ! Thank you ! BBSHD all day ! Australia allowed ! 48 volt running with 54.6 and 52v ,58.8 battery straight on no problems ! The others are pissy slow and not strong ! New one cant program ! Bought 2 old ones the best for diy use and POWER SPEED ! Lekie all ! Its messy if you have 2 left hands ! Or you can't do the job ! In that case shop and get ripped off ! Thank you !

[@SD_Alias]

A BBSHD with reduced wattage about 250-300W and street legal 25 Km/h should last longest of the 3 right?

[@SpicyMushroom469]

i would think so. Limiting is no fun though. i have 750w bbs02 with 6400 miles on it over the last 14 months. i ride 12 miles each way to work every day at max assist (30+mph and its still going strong)

[@Billybritt-s4t]

Bbshd 1to1 works great

[@voltvehicles]

yeah that thing is a beast, do you mean with single speed?

[@marceldagenais1893]

Got mine set up on a single free wheel get about 41 mph running 30 amps across the board

[@jakobkljun4684]

Why is it so difficult to get the prices of these motors?!

[@voltvehicles]

What do you mean?

[@emigrant4life]

BBS01 - the best choice for daily city driving (+ legal in every country)

[@voltvehicles]

yeah its an awesome motor :)

[@emigrant4life]

@@voltvehicles yes, but with 48V/350W(or 500W) controller)

[@marcellocapone4925]

Do Bafang motors really affect the right side crank (chainring side) by leaving it one inch farther once the motor is installed? I saw a review of a welder who fitted the 750w kit, and that's what he said. It was giving him hip pain when riding the bike since the crank on the right side was too far to the right.

[@LukeAMcDowell]

It comes with spacers. Your friend should have used the spacers to align his chainring and avoid the hip pain. My bbshd was ordered specifically for my bottom bracket size and it is centered well with no spacers.

[@bjnslc]

It's the reason so many conversions use Leki chainrings and asymmetric crank arms.

[@voltvehicles]

hmm, for a bottom bracket of 68mm and 72mm I have never had issues, but as Luke says, spacers could be required with big bottom bracket sizes

[@voltvehicles]

leki is too overpriced bro XD

[@Sheisintomalakasdino]

Bosch Motors swell up my knees, never had any problem in my life ... installed a bafang, Knee problems completely gone.

[@nicknelson9450]

Interesting, do I detect a Southeast Asian accent tinted with a bit of Welsh?

[@MetalFan10101]

No

[@nicknelson9450]

@@MetalFan10101 Ok, thanks for the thought-provoking interaction.

[@nicknelson9450]

@@MetalFan10101 and jagshemash.

[@voltvehicles]

???????????? You need hearing lessons

[@nicknelson9450]

@@voltvehicles Ok, I guess that's a no...thank you for your constructive and respectful interaction as well. Just thought your speech patterns sounded interesting and took a guess.

[@stavman8536]

The Bafang rear hub 750 so you can easily do service by your self !!!

[@voltvehicles]

do you have it? is it good?

[@kayssdavlatov8519]

Здравствуйте скажите пожалуйста кто нибудь знает про хороший смазку для мотот BBS hd ,

[@mineralisk]

None of these are torque-sensing, are they?

[@voltvehicles]

no, all are cadence sensing (like on-off switch)

[@mineralisk]

@@voltvehicles thank you

[@B12-jr5yp]

You play eve???

[@voltvehicles]

Yee 😀

[@tjts1]

Nobody in the US knows or gives a fuck how many watts your ebike motor is.

[@voltvehicles]

Really? Thats very cool, I might move there LOLOLOL

[@marceldagenais1893]

Some bodies had a bad day ,sounds like they got watt restrictions in America!

[@AdamSmith-fe9jf]

How come you only have 1tits? What happened to the other one?