Which OLED is Best? WOLED vs. QD-OLED

[@OeRagnar]

Came here from Reddit to say thanks for the great comparison! Well done!

[@AmelisTech]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@Gadget.Reborn]

The “oily” refraction sounds like a common issue with matte finishes with high ppi panels. This observation also happens to the new iPad Pro nano texture coating even its a RGB sub pixel arrangement.

[@AmelisTech]

Yah some of my friends/family don't notice it but personally was an issue for me. I would've loved a glossy WOLED option

[@andrewmorris3479]

@@AmelisTechThat’s why matte vs glossy is only personal preference if the user understands that matte coatings degrade image quality as their trade off.

[@blessing2757]

I thought my model have issues with port or cables... well.. seems like not now.. thanks for clarifying.. for me it's the grayish mostly that cause the oily or the fuzzy issues...

[@e2rqey]

Sounds like it's from the matte coating

[@andrewmorris3479]

@@e2rqey 100% from the matte coating.

[@EIGAtech]

Great first video, well done!

[@AmelisTech]

Thank you for the kind works

[@Newfie41]

Straight to the point, concise, and focuses on the important things. Great video!

[@AmelisTech]

Appreciate the kind words :) Thanks for watching!

[@sirmitchellconnor5300]

Not even looking for a monitor. But gotta say your video is better than some 1M+ subscriber channels. Continue like this and you will be really successful. Best of luck! 🙂👍

[@AmelisTech]

Really appreciate the kind words

[@ArthurIlano]

Thanks Ameli's Tech! def gonna buy a QD-OLED after this video

[@romkkaa]

Better wait for a glossy WOLED

[@Jodicus]

Thanks for being objective on this comparison. Picked up the LG due to me not really being big on playing games in a dark room. I was wondering if I was missing out on some huge difference with colors between the two panel types the way people talk about them in comparisons on Reddit.

[@AmelisTech]

Of course! It was making the decision tougher for me as well. Glad you were able to get the monitor that was best for you :)

[@user-zc3jh3jw8j]

3:01 These images look pretty darn different to me. The MSI has a red hue shift over the whole frame in comparison. Any insight into which is more true to source?

[@AmelisTech]

So unfortunately the camera does capture it quite different to what your eyes see in real life. Definitely should have mentioned this. When the blinds are closed the images look near identical in color. With the blinds open, the MSI has a slight red hue shift but not nearly as intense as 3:01

[@Schizo_Rez]

Thank you for mentioning the clarity and the reflection issue on WOLED. A lot if people fail to mention these issues, for me reflections on matt is worse than glossy. At least with glossy you can still see the image on screen when theres light behind you.

[@AmelisTech]

Glad it helped! Hope you get the monitor that’s perfect for you!

[@Schizo_Rez]

@@AmelisTech Thanks, I picked up fo32u2p. But man I wish it had the 480hz mode, I do play competitive games from time to time.

[@adeveloper6653]

This helped me decide against the lg oled for my next monitor purchase. AW3225qf here I come!

[@4dzxk332]

As others gave already mentioned, you have created a great objective cover of the 2 panels, which makes it A Lot more simpler for usual folks to make up their mind, whilst others just go on and on about subjective matters and never simply the most basic points for the observer, instead they just complicate comparisons even more where people then continue to watch more comparison videos to find an answer... and luckily, you are that person to provide the answers that people are looking for.. Great job man. plus as a side note i would recommend adding affiliate links to these panels from USA, UK and Europe, in that way you could also benefit from the advice and content that you have helped others in making a decision with to. Good luck pal, all the best

[@AmelisTech]

Really appreciate the kind words! I wanted to make that video that I felt like I didn’t have when deciding and i’m glad it’s been so beneficial. Thanks for the tip about affiliate links! I’ll try to look into it and add some :)

[@msnehamukherjee]

One thing you didn't cover extensively is the HDR. We know QD OLEDs have very low brightness compared to WOLEDs but it does have higher color volume. So which one do you think is more impactful in HDR?

[@javierarroyo6600]

Nice video man, 4k views is incredible for the first one, I have the MSI 1440p qd oled, and I couldn't be happier with the performance, it's beautiful

[@AmelisTech]

Appreciate the kind words! The 271qrx is an absolute banger monitor :) Glad you are enjoying your purchase!

[@MS-rr9kq]

Really great video! At 5:08, seeing both monitors next to each other displaying mostly black area, the msi looks very light grey to me. Was this noticeable in real life or is it because of taking a video of the panel? Or is it an intense example of the raised blacks on qd oled?

[@AmelisTech]

Definitely the video not doing it justice! If you have intensely bright lights you can have raised blacks but it’s not as bad as in the video!

[@Pe721]

I only play Apex legends and its locked to 300fps. I need a Monitor only for Apex and i am not sure what oled suits me best. 480hz fhd 240 hz 4k or 360hz wqhd. My Pc Hardwear can do 4k easy. I heard that 480hz also benifits at 300fps locked but there is no testing on this by anybody. Great Video. Love the content already. Subbed

[@AmelisTech]

Appreciate the kind words. My personal recommendation if you plan on playing mainly Apex is the 2k 360hz. In general 360hz and 480hz feel really close and that difference is much harder to tell. But having 2k vs 1080p specifically in a game like Apex can be a huge advantage. When I played Apex on the 271QRX it felt insane

[@cheese5194]

Bright future ahead of you buddy

[@AmelisTech]

Truly appreciate the kind words :)

[@TheCalax]

Is the LG really that much more blue-ish than the MIS one? It's incredibly noticable but I feel like it wasn't mentioned here at all

[@patrikmedia]

it's funny how everyone claims this LG to have an excellent matte coating, while a known monitor reviewer (not mentioning names but most people will know who I mean) says it's absolute garbage. just looks like that person has a grudge against matte coatings in general, can't really take it serious anymore when literally nobody supports that claim once they saw it in person. great review, btw make sure to not export the video as interlaced next time, there are line artifacts everywhere. this would fix it.

[@AmelisTech]

Yah I think it is crazy how someone can so brazenly hate on matte coatings. I do know who you are referring to and I think personal preference is something some people will never understand. Also, Just realized its partially interlaced! I didn't pay attention to the final render but turns out it was an issue between timeline and export frame rate which caused interlacing! Just switched to resolve so my fault!

[@peoplez129]

It's not a bad matte coating. It's better than the 144hz IPS/VA panel it replaced, which was actually similar, and that was an $800 monitor several years ago. From a steep side angle, the coating is glossy enough for a mirror reflection, it really only looks matte from straight on, and gets glossier looking the steeper the viewing angle. The oily look to it is there, but it's really only visible if you're like 6 inches from the monitor with a bright solid colored background, so my guess is people are simply sitting too close. Same with the text crispness on WOLED....it's not bad, and I don't even really see the fringing unless I put my eye up to the screen, and even then it's pretty minimal. Personally I like the white subpixel in WOLED. If you do like your monitor relatively close up, the white has an attribute no other screen has: It comes out white at the subpixel level, compared to RGB that needs to create white over a whole pixel that must blend at a distance to look like white. This to me makes the white on WOLED look much purer, especially for closeup viewing, where with a typical screen you get close enough and you'll definitely see the RGB of the subpixels as a kind of chromatic aberration. WOLED looks better both ways, whether it's black background and white text, or white background and black text, because the black always looks pure and the white does too, no matter how close. WOLED will ultimately beat QD-OLED, because you're literally getting 30% more subpixels, which does ultimately add more detail to an image at the subpixel level. The reason why WOLED has brightness issues is because that single white subpixel has to do the work of 3 subpixels....now imagine when they do get it to where it can have more brightness, it's simply going to be unmatched.

[@patrikmedia]

@@peoplez129 WOLED is usually brighter than QD-OLED, especially on TVs if you compare those panels.

[@joshadams4380]

Turn off ambient mode on youtube. Thats why your black bars are changing. cheers.

[@AmelisTech]

Unfortunately ambient mode was not the cause of this issue! Seems to be a problem on a few LG models

[@unihaale]

One thing that not many reviews talk about is VRR flicker in games. Maybe that's something you can include in the future.

[@AmelisTech]

Thanks for the feedback! In my personal use I haven’t really noticed any VRR flicker but it usually occurs with fluctuating frame rates and in most games my frame rate has been stable

[@unihaale]

@@AmelisTech Yeah that's the silly thing, when you have fluctuating fps, you would actually benefit the most from VRR, but now on OLEDs you are penalized :D. It's also difficult to test. Rtings has a new test that seems very complicated to set up.

[@tappthegreat7775]

Many don’t notice this “oily” screen either, but you mentioned it. Gotta be more objective on both ends even if you don’t notice.

[@woofinu]

I just got an Asus monitor XG27AQDMG which is a glossy WOLED (panel made by LG). Really happy with it since I have been looking for a glossy OLED at a more reasonable price for a long time. I almost got an MSI QD-OLED but switched to the Asus because I wanted the "black is black" characteristic of WOLED.

[@AmelisTech]

I had a review up for that one as well. Glad it worked out well for you :)

[@woofinu]

@@AmelisTech Thanks. I just watched that review and it's spot-on. When I first planned to upgrade my monitor the 2 candidates were QD-OLED, Alienware AW2725DF and MSI MPG271QRX. I preferred the MSI but it was not available then. I am glad I waited because the Asus model came out later, and that's what I got. Where I place the monitor, there is a strong morning window refection, but my eyes tune that out quickly and I don't "see" it. The OLED true black is totally worth it.

[@p4CHE]

How does the 1080p mode look? Some claim it’s really blurry… some claim otherwise.

[@AmelisTech]

In my opinion it is definitely a bit blurry, But I grew up playing competitive CS with low resolutions and this still felt much better than that. For the games where I truly want that advantage such as CS2, Valorant, Overwatch, Apex, Etc. it wasn't really an issue for me. I even liked the 27 and 24 inch modes but those were definitely more blurry

[@souls1lver]

Pretty blurry but for competitive games, not sure if sharpness matters over motion

[@Torchedini]

Compared to the 4k image it is a bit blurry. And a native 1080p panel will look better. But for me the smoothness outpaces all that. And the other times I just play in 4k. That is actually the best part about it, you have the choice

[@haewymetal]

Compared to 4K: Blurry. Compared to native 1080p on the same size, should be better on the 4K display due to integer scaling and much higher PPI.

[@JynxedKoma]

I think it's annoying you have to choose between Alienware's QD-OLED (Which comes with Dolby Vision) and the competitors which only have things like true/native DP 2.1. All monitors over 1,000 in cost should come with DV.

[@WhiteWolf601]

Is the WOLED coating different from other matte coatings? I'm wondering because I have an older matte monitor right now and don't have any issues with the coating, even after comparing it to the qd-oled

[@AmelisTech]

It’s a bit better than most normal matte coatings tbh!

[@dj_m19]

I got dell's S2721dgfa thinking of buying Acer X27U which is also matte, not sure if it'll be better, same, or worse

[@paulcox2447]

It's better than typical matte coating. Without a uber glossy panel next to it, it'll look a lil glossy compared to an older matte coating.

[@dj_m19]

@@paulcox2447 nice, thanks

[@ianfp2772]

I'm going to buy an OLED monitor in the near future, and I appreciate this video.

[@AmelisTech]

Appreciate the kind words! Hope you purchase the best monitor for you!

[@Psythik]

Informative video but you *REALLY* need to get a pop filter for your mic! Also should have calibrated the two monitors so we can have a much more fair comparison. The colors look off on the MSI in this video. Red looks more like magenta. And black looks like grey. (For reference, I watched this video on an LG C1 WOLED. And TBH the LG looks wrong too so maybe it's just your camera.)

[@zwoods]

Great vid dude! Not sure if it’s a QD panel, but any thoughts on that 32” Alienware monitor?

[@AmelisTech]

It’s a qd monitor as well! But I haven’t tried it cause I don’t prefer curved on 16:9 monitors

[@kurtdha]

Really good comparison video. Well done my man.

[@AmelisTech]

appreciate the kind words :)

[@thepadster123]

So would you say then that in a dim room with zero light in front of the screen this whole raised-blacks thing becomes kinda a non-issue? Thanks and great vid 🙏

[@AmelisTech]

Appreciate the kind words! Dim room with zero lights in front of the screen is definitely a non issue! Even decent light behind the monitor is pretty much a non issue!

[@Coodiie]

Nice video, you showed difference of colors really good.

[@AiBot3777]

I find mine (aw2725df) to be more vibrant and have much more colour depth than my C2, reds and yellows in particular are a huge step up

[@adamjahani4494]

Idk why they haven’t made a micro led monitor. Like I love oled on tvs but with a small display I think its hard to dissipate the heat which is why these oled monitors are generally low in brightness compared to their tv counterparts.

[@cuerex8580]

4:30 this behaviour is caused by coatingtype + the pixel layout + pixel density + viewing distance. there really is no easy fix to this except nano texture/lens corrected coating, which has just been developed now on the ipad pro 2TB and called Nanotextureglas or going complete glossy.

[@User-ys7cb]

Looks like bad grey uniformity to me.

[@CView]

Great first video - I see the same water color issue with my lg. there also seems to be hdr issues with certain inputs (my ps5 will not display correctly in hdr) - pondering if my unit isn’t working properly or if the product just needs a firmware update.

[@AmelisTech]

Oh no I hope you are able to get this issue fixed. I don’t think any console reviews I’ve seen have mentioned this issue. Might be worth reaching out to LG

[@CView]

@@AmelisTech Yup think so - gl with KZbin and thanks for the help

[@Evowar05]

2:10 i've had that on multiple monitors so far. my guess is windows, when viewing HDR content, screws up. i mean come on, it's windows.

[@SkilllfulL]

Great video! Hope you test samsung 32 oled as well and compare it to these monitors

[@DumpsterGrind]

Hi, I've already watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of reviews, but I can't decide which is better to buy an msi 32 oled or 27 msi oled monitor, considering that I like to play cod or cs2, will I be able to comfortably play on the 32-inch version? (Ofc i play some single titles and for media consumptions 32 is great). For me, this is the main stopping factor in buying the 32-inch version. Give me some advice, as a person who has tried both options, I will be very grateful for the answer.

[@AmelisTech]

I was in this exact same boat and tbh it is a tough decision. One of my friends is unable to play cs/val on the 32 inch. Now that I've gotten use to it I really enjoy it, but the 27 inch 360 hz will always be better for those titles. I can still play at a very high level on the 4k but playing against the best players can be tough with a lower refresh rate. But after using the 360hz and switching to the 4k, the visual difference is huge. Personally, unless you really want to play at the highest levels and compete, get the 32 inch. It is so much more enjoyable for every task and the refresh rate difference will be negligible! Hope this helps you get your dream monitor!

[@DumpsterGrind]

@@AmelisTech Thanks a lot for the detailed answer, I will order the 32-inch version. I wish you good luck in the development of the KZbin channel, and in other endeavors in life!

[@GFClocked]

Welp you got a subscriber out of me. Not sure if you're planning to post more videos but even if you post one 10 years from now I'll be like hell ye

[@AmelisTech]

AH I really appreciate it. I have my main channel in the desc. of the video but im hoping to post more reviews of tech stuff im interested in here. This comment just gave me a big smile. Especially cause I wasn't sure if this video would be useful

[@ponz3974]

Good review

[@peterlmad]

I have the msi 271QXR QD oled coming in can’t wait :)

[@AmelisTech]

I was able to try this monitor out and it was just mindblowing. 2k 360hz is just different in gaming

[@peterlmad]

@@AmelisTech mine was a blind buy, maining the pg27aqn atm which I also love but qd oled 360hz couldn’t pass on that 😅

[@NuggetsXInfinite]

Can't get over the thick gray bezel on the MSI monitors, it looks distracting and cheap. The LG models have a much thinner bezel and it looks more premium. But I think QD-OLED wins, so tough choice for me.

[@johnbarkley8158]

Good Vid. Looking forward to more.

[@gothaggis]

Not really related unless using hte 480hz monitors but TIL Apex Legends engine max framerate is 300fps

[@AmelisTech]

@@gothaggis Yah I remember a time where you had to lock fps to 240 to get better input lag cause Apex’s system is a bit weird. Not sure if that’s changed. V interesting stuff tho

[@riichobamin7612]

Which tech will you recommend ? QD OLED or WOLED?

[@geoffreycuypers2602]

It's amazing how cheap the msi is, but only in the states. Here in Europe it costs 1400eu

[@AmelisTech]

Not sure why they chose to do that! It’s a steal for the price here

[@sindev3320]

Glossy woled is comming with the asus rog XG27AQDMG but unfortunately it is 27 inch 2k

[@AmelisTech]

I saw! I will possibly test and upload a video about it! I am interested to see how the glossy WOLED looks

[@sindev3320]

@@AmelisTech we just hope that they bring it on the 4k 480hz oleds

[@jeanpaulalmeida]

Thanks! 💪🏻😊👍🏻 🇸🇪

[@Captain-Chats]

Raised blacks, a pain in the arse screen to clean and that always orange tint on qd oled puts me right off. I had the asus version and it was awful. Waiting on the lg right now

[@SkorpionHG]

Am I tripping or is the video interlaced?

[@AmelisTech]

Just realized its partially interlaced! I didn't pay attention to the final render but turns out it an issue between timeline and export frame rate caused interlacing! Just switched to resolve so my fault!

[@DarkChazz]

Any word on VRR flicker on each one of these?

[@AmelisTech]

Your timing is insane. I actually experienced some VRR flicker for the first time in Cyberpunk yesterday. Definitely distracting. It’s a shame too cause the Adaptive Sync made 120fps feel a lot smoother

[@DarkChazz]

@@AmelisTech Does it occur similarly on both monitors or does one exhibit less flicker than the other?

[@AmelisTech]

@@DarkChazz It seems to be similar on both! This is more an issue of adaptive sync and fluctuating frame rates so a simple fix was to cap the FPS at something sensible. Then its no longer an issue on either screen.

[@DarkChazz]

@@AmelisTech good to know. Thank you.

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[@MsFearco]

wow msi reflection handling is horrible. not to mention that black level is like a TN :D

[@9000writer]

Subbed

[@Yonnorr]

🐐

[@DLak16]

Hope oled 400 nit bright ☀️

[@HXISE]

is 32 inch to big for gaming ?

[@AmelisTech]

Def personal preference but I went from 25 inch to 32 inch and I love how immersive it feels

[@EverTechReviews]

Ive been gaming at 32 inches for about a year now on a 4k panel and i really enjoy it. I play a lot of shooters like Overwatch 2, Escape from Tarkov, and Battlefield. No issues

[@gordonfreimann]

the best is NOLED

[@tazboy1934]

Miniled right now until EL LED comes

[@adeveloper6653]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/raDZlHR6oKmAgsU geezus the lg has super crushed blacks