Which Scooby-Doo Character is the Best?

[@ThatOnePurpleFox]

"Velma is the smart one, Daphne is the people person, and Fred has a netflix account" that line killed me

[@thegrandtemslayr1384]

Scooby: Fred and chill?

[@claytongriffith8323]

And yet he doesn't believe in Mystery Gang polycule

[@BingQilin]

Fred is the one with the car

[@covarksigma1113]

no fred is the one that says fuck

[@BobbinRobbin777]

fred never uses it himself, but he keeps it around so that shaggy can watch silly b-movies legally. (cause you never know what new trick he can learn)

[@jihef03]

"-Shaggy goes along with Mystery Inc. because he genuinely loves mysteries, and Scooby goes along with Shaggy because he loves Shaggy." That's actually moving.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Also he’s a dog Shaggys what he knows

[@ga5_ma5k32]

In the future he became a god

[@dungeontsar7749]

@@charlottewalnut3118 p ok ol nb p in mono BBB v oh fu me if I’m asleep as a see ew wwww www

[@fishwaterhazarddelta2434]

My dyslexic ass read “shaggy goes along with shaggy because he loves shaggy” and I was like “what”

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Agreed

[@psychicjellyfish9466]

Fred’s catchphrase is “Alright Gang!” Because the gang, and his friends, are what is truly important to him.

[@silverdays2909]

What a chad

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Vin Diesel vibez

[@JDT-Loadsamoney]

It’s unorthodox, it can’t be used as the others, but it’s the purest of them all

[@aethersaltaccount3551]

Absolute king

[@lastgendempsey4331]

It's about drive 😤

[@alexjames7144]

Daphne and Fred being a stable couple has so much more room for comedy, like how their friends are always there when they're trying fo be romantic, even if they're on a romantic holiday. And Fred doesn't understand what Daphne wants for her birthday but she ends up liking his weird wacky contraption because it's cute that he tried. Fred gets captured and is being lowered over a lava pit but hes completely unconcerned because his girlfriend is batman and it starts to scare the villain.

[@Grim_Sister]

Daphne and Fred having an argument and Scooby, Shaggy and Velma are just watching them like it’s a soap opera 😂

[@lordfelidae4505]

No, Fred would be critiquing the Villain’s work while casually mentioning how easily Daphne will tear through it, often with incredibly prescient timing.

[@MischiefMakerMarcy]

Villain: say goodbye to your precious life! Fred: why? Villain: …you’re tangling over LAVA?! Fred: and your bouta be killed by my love💙 Villain: wha- *gets suplexed* Daphne: hi sweetie🩷

[@ToppHatt_8000]

But then it might go into standard sitcom territory, and most sitcoms just... aren't funny.

[@thebritishmarypopinscat8945]

​@ToppHatt_8000 Not unless it's really unexpected and it's hammed up to an extreme, either way I can see what you mean tho lol

[@Minumer]

"Fred is NOTHING...and that means Fred can be ANYTHING." This may be the most Unraveled thing you've ever said, Jello

[@nicholashurrell3257]

100% Jello and BDG would be great friends

[@razamirza5841]

EITHER FRED COULD KILL GOD OR HE IS A GOD AND I DO NOT CARE WHAT IS THE DIFFERNCE

[@charlessandison5740]

@@razamirza5841 THERE ARE NO RULES, FRED IS A LAWLESS GOD IN A FORSAKEN LAND

[@coolgreenbug7551]

I'm not a WaFred, I'm a Fred... _dramatic ascot removal montage_

[@jackg.2092]

"Either Sonic is god or can kill god, AND I DO NOT CARE IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE"

[@SharpVCN]

The only reason Scooby can get away with all of his antics is because dogs can’t be tried for acts of domestic terrorism

[@Joshisepic2222]

Exactly

[@sundaymorningoffline5460]

This actually made me laugh my ass off

[@LamisonJamison]

However they can be awarded military ranks and medals. Dogs can only be given praise, no punishment.

[@josephperez2004]

@@LamisonJamison All Dogs go to Heaven had a grain of truth to it.

[@Chigger]

Dog-mestic terrorism.

[@onebilliontacos3405]

I like the idea that Fred is both a genius and an idiot. He's really good at puzzles and probably even math and equations, but nothing else.

[@CreativRtist]

I think that’s actually a thing. Pretty sure the term is “Idiot Savant.”

[@gigglemuggz.]

i like to think of it like hes the kind of person who can solve a complicated math problem off the top of his head without thinking about it but the moment you ask him to show how he got that answer he just freezes

[@thejennybean]

Yes

[@solair4553]

High intelligence low wisdom

[@zachall1573]

Given how he drives the mystery machine and sets up the traps, I see him as being more mechanically minded, good at math and physical machenery.

[@alexjames7144]

I actually like the idea of Daphne not knowing the difference between spiders and scorpions. Like she's still a hypercompetent badass with a minor psychotic edge, but she doesn't care what bug it is because she already knows she hates it anyway.

[@normalpeoplelikeme]

I love how you decided to say “what bug it is” after using spiders and scorpions as examples, because that pretty much encapsulates your point right there.

[@alexjames7144]

@@normalpeoplelikeme I object to the use of Bug to mean "true bugs" as that group of insects have other names, and 90% of the English speaking population use the definition referring to all small invertebrates. Basically just because nobody is using "bug" to mean "true bugs" as the venn diagram of (people who can both correctly name the order to which true bugs belong and identify any given insect as part of that order) and (people who would just use the more precise species names to avoid ambiguity) is a circle. Essentially, as a word to describe all small invertebrates that vaguely resemble true bugs it has a clear use and purpose as a stand all word used in a context where the actual species is not known nor important. Whereas, as a word used to describe specific insects that most people can't identify and those who can would use a more precise word for, it is a completely useless word.

[@normalpeoplelikeme]

@@alexjames7144 Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that you changing it arbitrarily has any weight. Scorpions and spiders are arachnids, get over it. And people do not use "bug" as a catch-all word for small invertebrates, because that would include microscopic invertebrates, I've never met anyone who's looked at a tardigrade and said "That's a bug." Now that's a very specific example, and my experiences are personal and very limited, but my overall point still stands.

[@alexjames7144]

@@normalpeoplelikeme I have personally seen many people refer to them as bugs, I'm not changing it arbitrarily myself based on personal preference. That's just how it's used. I also did specify that it's usually invertebrates vaguely similar to true bugs that get called bugs, you're just being pedantic. I do vet med, we study a lot of parasites, some of which are true bugs and some of which aren't. They all get called bugs, even sometimes by the lecturers because it's not a particularly scientific term so it doesn't matter if it's not used with the original definition in mind. And nobody ever felt the need to be pedantic and cry about them not being true bugs. Definitions change over time, with the general use of a word. It's not even specific to scorpions and arachnids, invertebrates are diverse and true bugs make up a small percentage even just of all insects. The exact line of what are and aren't true bugs isn't universally agreed, because scientists have better things to do and the word is a loose descriptor that they don't use in academic settings.

[@normalpeoplelikeme]

@@alexjames7144 Jesus you really pulled 3 paragraphs out to defend yourself huh. Yeah, I didn't notice you specified invertebrates similar to true bugs. Would it make you feel better if I apologized? I'm sorry for questioning you, and for poking fun at you calling spiders and Scorpions bugs because I thought it was incorrect and Daphne would do that kind of thing because she doesn't care, unlike you, who clearly cares too much. Though that last bit is just me being salty.

[@MrPotatoFred]

The scientists all chanting "worm, worm, worm!" is the most accurate description I've ever heard

[@gmurillo20]

I want to see something like this

[@arjayd8496]

Yeah! Especially a frog. My gosh, Southeast Asia drops new frog species like flies..

[@dachamplamp]

19:18

[@acipenser_aficionado]

I am a fisheries grad student. This is 100% accurate. Big emphasis on the pokemon reference

[@mitigatedrisk4264]

I had to stop the video and laugh for a little bit.

[@anothergamer112]

"Velma's the smart one, Daphne is the people person, and Fred has a Netflix account." Is probably the best description I've heard of the Mystery Inc ever.

[@jacobluneberg597]

& shaggys the dope man

[@Sputterbug]

scooby is the dog you pet to calm your nerves

[@davidhong1934]

Scrappy is that kid brother who's not allowed to go near sugar

[@Grim_Sister]

“But what does Shaggy bring to the table?” “… Sex appeal.”

[@snakewriter7786]

@@Grim_Sister he does have that supernatural rizz

[@solidsentinel1285]

Fred should love the most random things and should always “know a guy”

[@mrcephalopod]

Bonus points if they're all like, VISIBLY the same dude in different hats but Fred swears blind that they're different people up until the finale, at which point it is revealed that Fred is just in with this huge fanily of near-identical guys with wildly different skill sets

[@lisatroiani6119]

@@mrcephalopod thats amazing

[@-Commit-arson-]

@@mrcephalopod I would watch that series

[@RavenArgento]

You literally described muscle man

[@panicatthedm873]

bill cipher "i think i know a guy"

[@lilwoofs]

“He’s not capable of wrong… only of oops” is such a powerful line

[@orangeinkius7257]

a grown man in his thirties in a Daphne cosplay nitpicking the lack of heathy couples in media inside a nearly hour long scooby-doo video essay is a strange thing to behold but now I feel complete

[@shonklebonkle324]

Well... when you put it like that, it seems a bit weird.

[@Reiiven]

@@shonklebonkle324 when you put it it like that… it’s ✨glorious✨

[@klairreed8743]

Please my mentality is teetering on the edge of reality....so please don't point it out/lh

[@CeeJay____]

He's only 28, actually.

[@bab00shka48]

Right? It's like... such a important thing for me for no reason. Like, I loved this show, and that whole rant is something I've never knew I wanted. Even though Velma was almost my fav I think. No. Wait Fuck

[@myztryx]

"And a bad Velma is a BAD Velma" Aged well, huh?

[@hugecloud6209]

Mmmm, yep

[@aidenflame1576]

THATS WHAT I SAIDDDDD

[@joemamacool]

💀💀 we didn't even see it coming

[@taklinnonyoutube4391]

Can say that Again

[@LanceVader]

He tried to warn us.

[@ClipperHorizon]

"I don't think Fred knows what s*x is. I think Fred imagines you throw a net up in the air and hope you catch a stork." "Fred is a lawless god in a forsaken land!" "There's not a malicious bone in his perfect Tonka-truck body." This. This is Fred and it's why we love him so.

[@Just.Kidding]

you don't have to censor "sex"

[@FearThePotamus]

Fred was hella horny in the live action ones tho lol he said “dorky chicks like you totally turn me on too” or something like that to Velma

[@nedcurfman3486]

@@Just.Kiddingsex is fine. It’s that number between five and seven that we’re terrified of

[@cloverandanais]

He is not capable of Wrong. Only Oops. 🌙

[@harrisonleon577]

"Fred does not say fuck"

[@masterspoiler2367]

At the VERY VERY end of Mystery Inc. when everyone else is shocked about the final reveal and saying their catchphrases, Fred says "Hold the phone!" I kid you not, this happens RIGHT after everyone else says their iconic lines in sequence. That's it. Mystery solved. Fred's catchphrase is "Hold the phone!" He's just too much of a himbo to remember to say it

[@pedrovallefin8406]

Aparently the latest movies canonized this by directly adknowleging it as his catchphrase. Hopefully in the future it will be used more cause it really suits him.

[@panpani5079]

"A bad Velma is the worst thing that happened to Scooby-doo" aged like fine wine

[@yuvalgabay1023]

More like milk . because I didn't want it to happened

[@kevinmurray2551]

@@yuvalgabay1023 The line aged like wine, it is the property that aged like milk

[@PhoenixDarkWing]

Trueeeee, jeeezzz

[@SarahJareth]

Omigod you're right

[@nighthawk4744]

I’m still trying to lobotomize the memory of just the 1st episode out of my head. Scooby help the people who watch all of it.

[@klawflover69]

My favorite obscure skill of Shaggy's is from "What's New Scooby-Doo" when he's an absolute mini-golf champion

[@nickchavez720]

I remember that episode. It was great because Shaggy became both the fred and velma, and they were feeling out of place because they didnt know what to do.

[@punprincess3214]

@@nickchavez720 i remember that! Shaggy was also super brave that episode and everyone was just so freaked out by the change

[@dragonlord3376]

@@nickchavez720 best part is that velma was basically shaggy because the monster was a giant clown, which is apparently one of her greatest fears

[@skykrasher4475]

What’s New Scooby Doo is one of the best versions tbh

[@scottchaison1001]

@@skykrasher4475 Yeah, but Mystery Inc. is better.

[@LycosHayes]

"What is Shaggy there for?" According to many of the series' lore, Shaggy's there cuz he owns the Mystery Machine.

[@eank3429]

This

[@possums154]

Yep

[@wizendwolf]

So that's why it looks like a hippie van

[@Arindam1262]

So, technically, they're all crashing on HIS couch.

[@eldritchsheep6801]

@@wizendwolf well technically in one of the show's it looks like that because before mystery inc it was owned by a banned called the mystery kids who's keyboardist died

[@fakenamebunchonumbers]

Shaggy being into mystery solving and/or the horror genre, in general, is a character trait that is not utilized in nearly enough. He can still be an anxious mess while there is a threat lurking around, but when he is comfortable and in a safe location, he should be the one throwing out Reddit conspiracy theories and horror B-movie trivia that make him sound insane, but actually turn out to aid in solving the case.

[@lordofshibainus]

I was rewatching mystery inc and they did this a couple of times! There was a villain based on DnD and Shaggy was the only one who could explain the terminology (because he used to play it) and helped reveal who the culprit was due to him knowing the off hand vs on hand placement.

[@spookypooky1362]

​@lordofshibainus That's so cool! I wish I continued watching Mystery Incorporated, every time I watch this, I'm like, "I really should watch that again"....And then I forget. 😂

[@wifipazwurd6892]

"WhY wOuLd We LoOk FoR gHoStS wHeN wE cAn LoOk FoR fReNcH tOaSt?" had me reeling. Not only is that exactly something they would say in that exact style, but the uncanny voice of a 30 year old male impersonating a hippie and his dog chuckling about french toast had me dying.

[@esanchez1906]

He does the voice so well!! I would watch a full video of him just impersonating Shaggy and Scooby

[@wifipazwurd6892]

@@esanchez1906 that would be hilarious.

[@BigtimeGambler8331]

5:29 it’s here

[@poisonmist13]

He laughs from his shoulders and I’m impressed

[@BearlyAwake13]

... I genuinely thought he was using audio from the actual show until I read this comment, it's so accurate

[@megamudkip5913]

I think the "Fred has a Netflix account" is a funny way of saying he's the one thing that's keeping them all together and is the reason they keep coming back, cause at the end of the day, they can all come together and watch some Netflix together

[@creed8712]

Fred honestly should be the thing that drives the team. Both literally in that he is the only one the drives the car but also as a leader it’s kinda his job to push them. He should be the first one to put himself into danger and he should also b the one to lift up the rest of the team. Telling shaggy to be brave, nudging Velma to directions for clues and then switch that dynamic for him and Daphne

[@YesmanForNamsey]

He just doesn’t understand you have to pay for it.

[@adrienstarfaer]

Fred is the himbo glue that holds Mystery Inc together!

[@bainbonic]

Disagree on making Daphne as into booby traps as Fred. Okay so hear me out, they're a booby trapping couple, but Fred's the one who's really into it while Daphne is there because she likes sharing Fred's passion and doing something together. She DOESN'T secretly hate trapping, she's legitimately having a fun time, but the fun is from spending time with her significant other, not the traps, that's actual healthy couple energy. If Daphne is alone, she'll skip the traps and go for a straight up garrotte or something suitably casually Murder-Daphne with an air of casualness about it that both makes it clear she's not "just putting up with" the traps, but also is a little bit of a psychopath.

[@PineappleLiar]

I can imagine a joke set up where Daphne helps Fred put up this comically impossible trap to stop the villain, but she knows it won’t work. And the whole episode stops being about catching the villain and more about setting up a secret plan under the much goofier plan to make it ‘seem’ like Fred’s trap caught the bad guy, when in actuality it was Daphne behind the scenes making sure everything went as planned.

[@violet8921]

@@PineappleLiar villain and villain henchman whos-secretly-in-control vibes !!!!!!! i love it

[@armedjaquar]

@@PineappleLiar why do I feel like that has happened before?

[@samsienichole4437]

i actually tend to think instead of helping fred with the traps ,she instead whenever the gang gets caught in trap she helps by getting them out because she learned by just being with fred

[@skyebetired516]

@@armedjaquar It's pretty common in scooby doo for the trap to not work the first time and more often than not from what I remember not work the way they wanted it to the second time, trending twords everyone but Fred working around the trap not working in a way that makes it work, then Fred is happy. This kind of energy would work really well both with Murder Daphne and with Skillmonkey Shaggy, because there are plenty of niche skills that you could deus ex into looping back around into making a failed trap an accidentally successful one, or to make a modular trap that Shaggy can control dynamically via marionette strings because he has a weird puppet hobby going on or can contact juggle odd objects and that control over throwing weird stuff lets him chuck something with a weird arc right into a lynchpin in a trap that failed, or throwing his voice to cause a quick moment of confusion and distraction if they notice the trap isn't properly set up, fun stuff like that where he can save the day while Daphne fixes the trap that Fred is too much of a himbo to realize there's a flaw in. In the trap making and springing dynamic I don't see obsessively dorky Velma contributing much other than calculations, predictions based on probability, suggesting that a rope have an anti-ghost lacquer on it that causes the trap to break in the first place just because she wanted to make sure that if it was a ghost they couldn't phase their way through anything, and being unwitting bait or a catalyst for the trap itself if they wanna make like a glue bomb that traps them and Velma's so enamored by the ghost that she's actually chasing the capitalist in a mask because she wants to get a closer look at the specimen and he doesn't wanna be caught. It has potential but honestly you can't really overuse these things or else Velma becomes more of a problem addition that enables crazier and more unlikely Fred traps while ruining perfectly good ones since the ghost, ghoul, or furry probably isn't going to be real unless it's a movie.

[@An-on-YT-at-UW]

I think the most important thing you need to do with the Mystery Inc. characters is to make them all like each other. These guys are a group of very weird teenagers with a niche interest that nobody else has who also are absolutely insane and go digging into capitalist hoaxes with their big cute talking dog because they're obsessed. They like each other more than anybody else because they get each other. Everybody else puts up with Shaggy being a stoner or Fred being a himbo or Daphne being a bloodthirsty girlboss or Velma having no social awareness or Scooby being a DOG THAT FREAKING TALKS because they like each other and they understand each other in a way nobody else does. Any Mystery Inc. that doesn't feel like friends is not a real Mystery Inc. in my brain. Another great reason to watch Mystery Incorporated. Nobody else in this town likes them. Okay, maybe like four other weirdly mystery obsessed people like them, but for the most part everybody else is weirded out at best and actively malicious at worst. They are friends.

[@pedrovallefin8406]

I would like to say this goes without saying (of course theyre friends, theyre "the gang", why would they even hang around together all the time if they didnt like each other?), but the Velma series has proven this is an important clarification. Its prety bad when something as obvious as "theyre friends, they shouldnt hate each other" needs to be reminded asap to the writers currently in charge of this characters.

[@An-on-YT-at-UW]

@@pedrovallefin8406 my feelings exactly.

[@dracosmith7781]

I believe and think it's funnier that shaggy is just like that and doesn't smoke pot. Good comment

[@Robin_Goodfellow]

For me, Fred's catchphrase is "c'mon, gang." He's the glue in the group, the popular kid in school that had friends in every clique. I think a good portrayal of Fred shouldn't be unintelligent, just straightforward and friendly, which enables him to mediate between the quirkier personalities in the cast and help them work together as a team.

[@highjumpstudios2384]

Fred's catchphrase is fuck

[@natecgames4612]

I think Fred should be the dull but smart character. He has a huge hand in the traps they make and generally wants to get into some type of hands on gig, and he'll tell everything he knows to the wrong guys if they get him talking about his interests in tinkering. But he's genuinely a kindhearted guy who thinks that anyone can be friends and always makes sure to pull out his hand for anyone in need. Again, anyone can also mean bad people. He does not need to be keen to be smart.

[@erikscott1049]

"C'mon gang." That's a perfect catchphrase for Fred. Every other catchphrase is a reaction, he's should to proactive.

[@bilicdebili2274]

The best Fred catchphrase ever is- "Its trapin time" from mistery inc. 😂😂😂

[@erikscott1049]

@@bilicdebili2274 No no, you're just asking to get copyrighted by the 'Power Rangers'.

[@abedi_ryan]

...Who's here after Velma and wished they listened to this golden maniac?

[@MrMinebase]

Me :)

[@Osnic-T.-Rodent]

me

[@kaylastewart7883]

Should have listened.

[@zanythefreak]

Me myself and I

[@KaijuofSteel]

They made Fred dumb but also annoying and unkind, while he repeatedly says fuck. Literally ruined him.

[@michealmcclean2187]

Shaggy as the skill monkey is so true. Like the amount of times they'll be chasing something like a yeti at a skii resort and Shaggy will end up blundering into competing in the global skii jumping grand finals only to then be used as bait is staggering.

[@xxratsrcutexx3494]

I love the word "skill monkey" lmao

[@a.l.i.c.i.a.]

And then they gather around it like "WORM WORM WORM WORM" Perfect. So perfect.

[@jedodom3056]

You know, I would like a Velma who dedicated her life to proving ghosts are real, but has become so disillusioned by the constant fake ghost reveals that she stops getting her hopes up, but you can tell that deep down she still believes in ghosts and wants so hard to prove their existence. You could also use that as a plot point.

[@Eric-py8yy]

I heard a comment that said that a plot episode could be Velma capturing a Ghost or monster and then she gets into madness to really abuse that creature to prove that ghosts and monsters still exists and then in the end she ends up freeing the creature

[@maxschechter4156]

Like in 1408, but less horrific

[@Eric-py8yy]

@@maxschechter4156 it's a movie?

[@maxschechter4156]

@@Eric-py8yy yes, but I think I meant to say Grave Encounters

[@sophieb5537]

So.... you mean a female Ryan Bergara?

[@TheRoyallyScrewed]

Fun Fact: Fred actually doesn’t own the Mystery Machine, Shaggy does. We know this because every time the gang has broken up, Shaggy keeps the Mystery Machine. Also, it does make a lot of sense, given Shaggy’s parents are absolutely loaded, while Fred’s family are of average wealth.

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

They did a whole show where Shaggy inherits a whole ass mansion from his supposedly dead uncle.

[@royt_1495]

@@GeorgeMarionerd you mean 'shaggy and scooby doo get a clue'

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

@@royt_1495 Yis

[@tbana2396]

@@GeorgeMarionerd I have such a soft spot for that show, but based on its own merits, since it's basically an unrelated spin off that happens to star Shaggy and Scooby. The character designs for the gang were my favorite part. Very 2000s in an appealing way. (Referring to Shaggy and Scooby Doo Get a Clue)

[@tbana2396]

As long as we never mention Get a Clue's Opening Theme, we're fine. That's the one objectively bad part that I always skip.

[@BadIdeaBoss]

I really like the idea that Daphne without Fred is so much more lethal, like Fred loves traps so much and his energy is so earnest and positive that it levels her out just enough that she’s ok with stopping at traps

[@joshuastrittmatter4188]

People say Shaggy is the deadliest character in Mystery Inc. thanks to his Ultra Instinct gimmick. They couldn’t be more wrong. It’s Daphne. Post-Zombie Island, she became one truly badass fighter, strong enough to beat up a knight with her bare hands.

[@merriquelynn]

She’s feral. She’s the Beast. Then she started to change when she met Fred. Beauty didn’t change the Beast. She changed because she wanted to and found happiness by his side. A running gimmick could be when someone takes advantage of Fred trusting them, or he gets hurt. Then, she disappears for a night to “take care of it”. Maybe not deadly. But they’re back in the morning and the offender apologizes and corrects the wrong thereby restoring Fred’s sunshiny hope in humanity.

[@wildfire9280]

@@merriquelynn Protector syndrome not in a male character? I’ll take it!

[@SuperInsanewolf]

It's cause she likes to see him smile, like all of us do.

[@MoonLitChild]

This is my ideal Daphne. She wants to punch a ghost. She wants to punch an honest to god ghost but every time it's some greedy SOB in a mask. One day though, *one day*, she swears she's going to punch a for real ghost.

[@jackrutherford2005]

I love the fact that the described "perfect" Velma is basically just Entrapta from She-Ra 2020, like the similarities are definately there just based on the concepts raised

[@CloudySkye-l5e]

honestly really like that characterization though, I'd totally be up for more characters like that

[@HowlingWolf4545]

i kinda wish they did girly girl daphne like an elle woods: almost encyclopedic knowledge of fashion that kinda bleeds into the ventriloquist shaggy where seemingly useless talents help solve the mystery, if that makes sense. Like she will see footprints and be like “that’s the 1995 prada wedge but the toe box on the left shoe is slightly less defined in the print so they REALLY can’t walk in heels” *cue hair flip*

[@night4138]

Honestly I would agree on this And as an add on May I suggest her being able to just identify what a fabric is? Like they find a scrap of fabric from someone's outfit and she's just like "oh that's so and so fabric with a so and so thread count typically used for these specific outfits" and says how they're supposed to be washed ya know?

[@nenmaster5218]

@@night4138 All Alike (so you may wanna watch): -Jay Excis Doctor-Who-Essay -Hbomberguys RWBY-Video and Sherlock-Essay -Madvocate and his Flash-Coverage -Most of Krimson Rogues Channel -Basically the whole Channel of Some-More-News and Hello-Future-Me

[@beewithhoney7969]

If i never see this version of Daphne I will be very disappointed.

[@night4138]

@@beewithhoney7969 same

[@bobo6237]

I Stan mystery inc

[@emppu1012]

Get yourself a partner that talks about you the way Jello talks about Fred: Tenderly and full of affection, passion and awe

[@theperses3692]

It’s the dream.

[@Ledezma-db7iy]

Hi

[@theamazingsamuel3107]

Dumb, oblivious, f r i d g e

[@Jeb.07]

gentle is absolutely wrong

[@Midnight-Starfish]

So a himbo

[@aquos4176]

For Fred, I'd officially like to suggest that he just has an obsessive personality. Like, every episode or so he just gets into a new 'phase' that he's fully into, and then at the end of the episode he just goes 'well x was lame anyway". That was his chaotic energy can be preserved.

[@ProptimusPrime777]

Thats what be cool scooby doo did for Daphne And I hated it...

[@chaoscat1499]

So, what they did with Daphne in Be Cool

[@Jaydee-wd7wr]

@@ProptimusPrime777, Well I’m sorry but I think your wrong, that was my favourite running gag of the show.

[@sylvesterthekiibokinnie1637]

FRED IS JUST ME WHAT THE FUC,

[@goggles8691]

Or he just crams research before each mystery. Like, in one of the movies he almost kind of spoke Spanish. So he keeps on saying things that are almost true

[@nicolecoleman895]

As far as Velma’s sexuality. I just want Bi Velma. It makes all of it work canonically. Also it means she tends to like her girls smart and her boys dumb as bricks and I find that hilarious

[@senpaiofthevoid7351]

Too true of a trait

[@PineMountainMusician]

Omg she’s just like me fr fr

[@rulue8610]

Velma is also a tsundere.

[@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs]

Just like me fr fr

[@nico.anon713]

Fuck man you right​@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs

[@mothersbasement]

I... I remember flimflam

[@caspianprice7009]

Wow never thought I'd see you here

[@WafflesX3XD]

i honestly assumed everyone did until watching this video, and now i’m worried o_o’

[@Shadowreaper5]

Is it bad that I don't and 13 ghosts was one of my favorites?

[@pee_0656]

I remember him too

[@strawberryboymyg2503]

Same, am in fact a lunatic who still watches scooby doo

[@luluzin5022]

One thing about Daphne that I always thought could be utilised more is her interest in fashion. A hobby like that implies knowledge on fabrics and measurements. While Fred makes the traps and Velma is looking to establish a motive, Daphne could be the one who figures out how the monster costume operates and who could be wearing it. Thus proving that girly things can be useful, which is an overdone message, but still effective.

[@Grim_Sister]

Elle Woods shows this in the beginning of “Legally Blonde”, she asks about a particular stitching for a dress the saleswoman tries to scam her into buying. Then tells her that not only is it not possible with this type of fabric, she also remembers seeing that dress in last year’s collection. Daphne could be a total cosplay geek, explaining how to make cool functional costumes that’ll make a practical effects specialist want to weep from pure joy

[@eli-jah_ayon]

​@@Grim_Sister This concept was actually in an episode of Mystery Inc. incorporated! Too bad it wasn't explored again.

[@susiem.2068]

​​@@Grim_Sister Elle literally solved a murder using her knowledge of cosmetics. She always found a way to use her traditionally girly interest as stepping stones to make serious moves in life.

[@capiest]

i remember a scooby doo where are you episode (i think that's what it was anyway), where daphne dates the fabric of clothes to find what century the villain was from

[@sev1120]

Plus, that stuff requires a VERY good attention to detail. Velma may find hidden clues, but Daphne is able to get the eact measurements and materials that would be needed to get through a secret tunnel without scraping the walls

[@none62092]

Gotta love how jello talked for 1 hour about how to do Scooby Doo characters right and HBO decided to do the polar opposite. Like, so completely polar opposite that it almost seems like they watched his video and took notes just to make sure they do the EXACT opposite of what he said a good Scooby Doo character is

[@domino6011]

HBO’s Velma is very much the antithesis to what the Scooby-Doo name is known for :(

[@kreatona4219]

@@domino6011 I mean it doesn't have scooby-doo to begin with so that checks out

[@carna-9501]

Its literally just Mindy Kalling. That's the issue. Mindy Kalling made Velma a self insert, with all of her bullshit personality. Her personality of only liking white dudes and putting down the entire Indian subcontinent and diaspora. Fuck Mindy Kalling

[@fixthefernback8030]

@@IXthCircle it's not bad because it's "woke". it's bad because the writing is trash. mindy kahling is a trump supporter she is not "woke".

[@spork2691]

@@IXthCircle the existence of gay and/or poc characters doesnt make something "woke". the show is not "woke" at all.

[@alexiss0702]

You CANNOT convince me that Fred doesn’t have a KZbin channel on net tutorials! There’s also definitely a ‘Clean the mystery machine with me!’ vid in there somewhere

[@willowarkan2263]

Daphne would do makeup tutorials but for like what to wear when exploring a bog. Scooby and Shaggy do the food vlogger thing And Velma could be anything from posting stuff from their mysteries, like doing an after the facts report or podcast to doing debunking videos.

[@OutbackCatgirl]

daphney does an eclectic mix of knife reviews, self defense tutorials, urbex, and practical girlboss clothing field repair guides in order to always be slay while slaying shaggy posts incredibly tight video essays on the most unexpectedly niche topics you didn't know you could be interested in and reviews old b-movies with scooby fred vlogs, wheezywaiter style, about whatever special interest just popped into his head velma streams wholesome slice of life gay shit in minecraft with hot dog water on twitch but is too shy to facecam and instead uses a live2d vtuber model

[@calebanderson7867]

"He is not capable of wrong. Only oops." I have not laughed so hard in a good long while.

[@murdocnickles1688]

Fred is a good wholesome boy so it makes sense, he does not know bad

[@Miroku2235]

That single line almost made me pee a little.

[@jseeker1867]

"He is not capable of wrong, only of oops" is SUCH a gold line, I want to embrace whoever wrote that.

[@Ghost-lt4sf]

I paused and scrolled down to find the comment praising it 😆 sooooo gooood

[@GazeboOfDoom]

I want a Velma who gets disappointed that the ghost ended up being old Mr. Hinkle. Like she's happy they solved the mystery but she REALLY wanted it to be a real ghost and the rest of the gang have to cheer her up like "Don't give up, Velma. Maybe the next one will be a real ghost." "You think so?" "Hey, stranger things have happened."

[@voidtectonic]

Yes

[@kaiju2296]

I want a Velma who's my girlfriend in the real world

[@nickymorrissey3210]

That’s just zombie island but with daphne instead 😂

[@kaelkirkby9191]

@@kaiju2296 chill out. i feel your horny aura from here

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

And Marcy comforts Velma the most because supportive gf.

[@aceaster109]

"brain of a tadpole and the body of a fridge" i died.

[@faerlabaermar]

A man that looks suspiciously like Shaggy extoling the virtues of Fred makes far too much sense. That's his best friend besides Scoob, man

[@doorbuster2459]

Ikr! Its so sweet. I like it when they are all friends! Like Fred and Shaggy are best buds! And when they are buddies its so wholesome.

[@caritahearts2405]

Thicc shaggy

[@180fJC]

It would've been even more suspicious if he had said Scooby is his favorite character, like idk man

[@sharksuperiority9736]

I love the idea of Daphne and Fred just blankly staring at characters Daphne stares because she’s going to kill you in the most insane way possible Fred stares because there are no thoughts in his brain. Also #BringHotDogWaterBack

[@josephschultz3301]

Fred really and truly is the sort of man who unironically says, out loud, "Hmm, yes, this floor is made of floor."

[@kappnk9821]

Gang, me and Daphne did some investigating and found out that the floor in this house...is made of floor...

[@spiderssssssssssss]

Velma writes this down like it’s vital information to humor Fred because she likes him and a sad Fred is heartbreaking. Also, because she knows full well that if she at all pointed out how that doesnt help, Daphne would hang her from a roof by her feet.

[@grandwarriorwaluigi1284]

@@spiderssssssssssss not just by her feet, but Coated in something to draw in animal, like honey to attract bears, and leave her there like a human piñata.

[@stevjiro]

@@grandwarriorwaluigi1284 LMAO, psychotic girlboss daphne for the win.

[@CaptainPrincess]

"his hollow skull is filled with naught but sunshine" and "he is not capable of wrong, only of oops" just broke me broke me in half

[@jonm4206]

This is the first video I've seen from this channel, but if you put those lines on the front and back of a 20 dollar T-shirt take my money now.

[@shamkey9632]

“How does one describe Fred? Human?” Velma writers: No “Ascot?” Velma writers: No “White?” Velma writers: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT SHIT DOWN RIGHT NOW!

[@xordell1622]

Jello looks like a combination of every member of the Scooby-Crew He has the facial hair of Shaggy, the glasses of Velma, the hair color and style of Fred, the sass of Daphne, and the enthusiasm of Scooby.

[@milo_south3670]

You aren’t wrong

[@ikeabathroomofficialknuckl3981]

He IS the Scooby Gang

[@shadowclaw7210]

It all comes full circle.

[@CaptWarChief]

It's like poetry. They rhyme

[@sumthngcool4221]

@@CaptWarChief it’s like poetry, gay

[@TechnicallyAstral]

Lot of people tend to forget that Shaggy acts as the gang's mechanic when the Mystery Machine needs repairs, most prevalent in What's New and Mystery Incorporated. It's actually really neat. Plus the dynamic of how flustered he gets when he gets called Norville for any reason. There's a lot to play with there.

[@lawrencevalero8111]

since when did shaggy fix the van, or anything at all?

[@TechnicallyAstral]

@@lawrencevalero8111 If you want specific examples, the earliest ones I can think of are Reluctant Werewolf and Ghoul School. Beyond that, again, What's New and Mystery Inc.

[@kylegonewild]

I find it endearing that he prefers the company of his weird bunch of friends to the snooty upper crust life he's adjacent to in the iterations where him being from a wealthy family is canonical.

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

@@TechnicallyAstral I think I recall him becoming the gang mechanic in What's New. Specifically in the worm and skeleton episodes since they're both racing episodes.

[@ghostofdavinci2003]

​​​@@kylegonewild It would also makes sense why he's such a skill monkey and floating through life without problems that involve money. He's a stoner that does odd jobs, not because he needs to do odd jobs but because he likes learning the most absurd of things but he's able to float through life without struggling because he's rich. Like he doesnt worry about anything financial and just does whatever he wants, hes financially secure and set his whole life 100x over so he gets to goof off to whatever fascinates him along with his dog and friends. He uses his money to be with his friends and go on adventures with them, which also explains why he knows a lot of famous people and in the know in pop culture (because he meets them in the parties his parents and relatives force them into)

[@dgmplayerone3871]

Give Fred ADHD, that would explain how he knows so much about random shit as there were once a hyper fixation he had, traps are just the current hyperfixation but it’s lasting a little longer than expected

[@ryanbradleyrankin]

Ok this is me. Im obsessed with perfecting my avocado toast recipe at the moment.

[@laraschroeder5195]

I love that! Each episode is just a new hyperfixation that goes away by next episode and whenever anyone brings it up he doesn’t remember it at all.

[@gelusvenn5063]

@@ryanbradleyrankin Yo let me at that. I tried avocado toast and it turns out that millennials really do like the stuff. Or at least I do.

[@ryanbradleyrankin]

@@gelusvenn5063 i know right. I only tried it because of the meme and then i was like "hold on a sec....this is pretty good". So here is what you do. Get your favorite Bread and toast it of course. Id suggest either a sourdough or whole grain bread. typical sandwich bread is too flimsy. I like DAVE'S KILLER BREAD. In this recipe i mash the avocado into a spread. Get a potato masher. Add salt, pepper, red pepper flake, the juice from half a lime, and a little bit of olive oil. Get 2/3 strips of bacon and cut them into small pieces with some meat shears. fry them up nice and crispy and let them cool for a few minutes on a paper towel. Start toasting the bread while the bacon is cooling. Simply spread the avocado onto the toast and then sprinkle the bacon on top of it. Sometimes ill fry up an egg or 2 as well. you should have enough avocado spread for 2 maybe 3 servings. The lime juice will keep the avocado fresh and green.

[@thedestroyasystem]

@@laraschroeder5195 I think that would be a cool concept, but then don’t tie it to an actual disorder. That way ppl with hyperfixations/special interests could relate to his intense interest, but people unfamiliar with the concept wouldn’t think you can just cycle through them every day.

[@Big-Shady]

Honestly, homie could convert to only Scooby content So long as he does it in this format, I'd watch the shit out of it Specially since I've already watched this one 8 times

[@SleepyHollowKnight]

Same 😅

[@glitch3141]

It’s hilarious to make Daphne the girly-girl also be the most intense member of the group. She’s got batman money and training, and splurges it on dresses, ghost tours, and high heels that work in combat. You could also have Daphne and Fred in the beginning stages of that loving relationship, where they are clearly meant for each other but are still working out the boundaries. Get that whole “Will he still love me if I break a man’s leg?” Kind of thing.

[@Superflaming85]

I think that whole relationship between Fred and Daphne could also work even better if they balance Daphne's angle of being too intense with Fred being the exact opposite and having no idea how the whole "boyfriend" thing works but just trying his best because it's Fred. So you have scenes of Fred reading romance novels and trying to learn to be a 'traditional' boyfriend, while Daphne just could not give less of a shit and is just happy to do the things she likes with Fred. Meanwhile, you have scenes of Daphne beating up a bunch of guys and being worried about what Fred thinks, only to have him giving her a thumbs-up with a big smile. And then to counteract Daphne's intensity, both are "good" in a fight, but while Daphne is due to being super skilled and badass, Fred is just a pure himbo cinnamon roll that bumbles his way to victory. Like, someone tries to sneak up on him, but he just went shopping with Daphne, so he suddenly turns around and knocks the guy down with a bag full of shoes. Then he bends down to help, while the attacker tries to get up, resulting in a KO and his "victory" when they bonk heads. Give Fred old Daphne's clumsiness, but instead of it being what gets him into situations, it's what gets him out of them.

[@8Bitnoobgamer]

@@Superflaming85 The Mr Magoo of himbos

[@clayxros576]

@@Superflaming85 Honestly the dynamic between me and my fiance, and let me tell you, it would be endlessly entertaining to watch this in Fred and Daphne. Cause they really do have the vibe of people who could fill that mold and niche really nicely.

[@misscat6055]

I love this idea

[@ja-taroarachnid531]

@@Superflaming85 I.... really like this...hmm

[@masmackattack1188]

i can imagine velma trying to come up with theories as to how ghosts and spooky things could work scientifically.

[@diehounderdoggenalt]

I could totally see her trying to blast ghosts with various types of EM emitters just to see what happens. "This shouldn't be a thing, but it is, and I'm gonna figure out how it works. "Why" is for eggheads, I'm a field researcher dammit."

[@koi2607]

I see her as a mattpatt type

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

@@koi2607 Velma: Hello Internet, Welcome Mystery Inc live! We're about to enter Freddy Fazbear's pizza!

[@mindlessky545]

Hello from the future No I’m sorry but you could not have been more wrong The future kinda sucks

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

@@mindlessky545 indeed

[@Average-Joe851]

So basically: Fred needs to be a kind, not so smart, guy who has a thing for machines. Daphne needs a strong willed, courageous to a fault, femm fatale (who could, if motivated, really mess up your day). Velma needs to be a socially awkward, but extremely booksmart, scholar who has a fascination for the supernatural (gets disappointed when she realizes it's just "some guy in a mask" can be an occasional gag). Shaggy needs to be a coward that enjoys a good spook and stress eats to help cope with a high metabolism and a bunch of adrenaline. Scooby needs to a smart, loyal, and goofy dog who does get scared easily.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

They also all need to kinda shit on Shaggy a bit

[@chukyuniqul]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 kinky

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@chukyuniqul Lol

[@FortyTheAlien]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 oh hell yeah

[@snowynight7245]

don't forget the netflix account

[@icy_bird5540]

I love the theory that they’re all Eldridge horrors except for Fred and they all came down to cause chaos but were won over by his genuine passion for solving mysteries

[@curare6373]

When you said "you could do anything with Fred" I bet you didn't expect the new writers to take that in literally the worst way possible.

[@ErieMyri]

Right? not even just Fred they butchered all the characters but especially him and Velma. I can completely buy Daphne being a popular bitchy character, but Velma going from a lovable nerd to an over combative mean pickme self insert of Mindy, and Fred a misogynistic whiney white kid type? it just doesn't work. Fred being a rich Mamas boy can work but don't make him a genuine POS. Shaggy? whos that?

[@krazykookie23]

Jello had one requirement. Make him kind and they failed at that simple task DX

[@curare6373]

@@ErieMyri This is why I went back to watch mystery incorporated again

[@laravioliiii2832]

also 2:29

[@Grim_Sister]

Amazing, isn’t it? The writers managed to fail in every aspect: Velma isn’t funny or smart, just frumpy Daphne is just a mean popular girl Shaggy is a boring straight edge dude Scooby doesn’t even exist And Fred, our sweet himbo, is an asshole. Congratulations, writers. You have shat the bed so hard, even the floor is soaked

[@jacoba6747]

I gotta love that Mystery Incorporated Fred has an IQ of 3 and yet based on the traps he's created: - Has a very clear and indepth knowledge of college level physics -An extremely intelligent engineer and master in multiple forms of engineering including chemical, electrical, mechanical, and more -Has an supernatural grasp of spatial awareness to the point where he can use every ounce of space around him to his advantage to set up trapping mechanisms -Is an expert in probability due to the fact some of the mechanisms won't work unless something else is set off -Extremely clever and resourceful

[@laraschroeder5195]

I love the thought that Fred could actually be an incredible scientist/engineer if he didn’t focus all his attention on making traps. Definition of “follow your passion”. “You have the knowledge of genius engineers, and you’re using it to make traps and solve mysteries? With that knowledge, you could help invent teleportation!” Fred: “But I don’t WANT to invent teleportation! I want to solve mysteries!”

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Savant!!!

[@bootlegpineapple6599]

This is giving me an idea for an episode where Fred is struggling with something like taxes or some other thing that needs thinking and brainpower and Daphne is like “hey, just think of it like you’re making a trap!” And suddenly Fred starts thinking like that all the time and he becomes ungodly smart. Like, he conquers the stock market, he starts developing an incredibly efficient renewable fuel for cars and jets, all this absolutely wild shit just by thinking of challenges like he's making a trap. And the gang is just dumbfounded, their dynamic is completely shifted and it’s all just wrong. Episode could resolve with him being like “man, thinkings a lot of work! I’d rather just be the trap guy” or something like that

[@errorus1the1first]

He is the definition of high INT low WIS.

[@InvaderTak176]

So asperger's

[@namecomingsoon9517]

“Fred Jones: Human Golden Retriever” The best description of Fred

[@ralph3277]

Yup. XD

[@valentinaespinoza8526]

Basically, Mr. Peanutbutter.

[@DarktheEagle]

Ah, yes. Pure of heart, and dumb of ass.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Now I want Scooby series were Scooby is human while rest of gang is dogs.

[@maxthefool]

“himbo”

[@undery0ur_b3d]

Fred is the mom of the group...which explains why I like him completley, he is caring to the others and the guy who holds your hand on the escalator, the guy who always has snacks in his bag, and the one who takes care of everyones stuff whilst they go on the rollercoasters. He cares for his friends and his catchphrase is literally ''Alright gang!'' (amongst other iconic ones) hes just a cheery mum of the group, the careful planner, the unofficial yet official leader if you will, yet he does not boss around his friends hes just the 'leader', not even the mascot or the decision maker. Hes awesome to put in bluntly.

[@OutbackCatgirl]

OH MY GOD HE REALLY IS THE MUM MOTHER HEN FRED YES GOOD

[@theonegoldengryphon]

Jello: “You guys won’t click on more than one Scooby Doo video essay” Me: *panhandling on the street for a hours-long Scooby Doo Mystery Inc. full series review and breakdown*

[@shawnheatherly]

Seriously, that was the only real part of this I disagreed with. Jello's content is just pure randomness at this point but I am absolutely ready to watch him break down and review literally every series of Scooby Doo.

[@vullord666]

Billiam has a video essay on mystery inc that I enjoyed (only 20 minutes though)

[@sirforgotten5443]

Ok, hear me out. ADHD Himbo Fred! He is just a really nice guy that constantly jumps from hobby to hobby. This way, any time the writer needs him to be really into something, that can be either his current hyperfixation or a previous one. It would also him a more defined role in the group, he would be the impulsive/easily distracted one the absent mindedly wanders into places or gets lost.

[@isabellarussell4407]

Good grief, I love this idea

[@hitsugatatsuro9978]

Again, that sounds like Daphne from Be Cool Scooby Doo, just less insane.

[@scarlet16moons5]

@@hitsugatatsuro9978 it works with his prefect Daphne ship, so I mean... like... it's brilliant

[@masongtv]

you should get paid for that

[@cornybram845]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING also he’s ace ok byeee

[@Dimonds456]

Congrats on the Velma 2023 writers seeing this video! That's pretty cool! Shame they decided to do the exact opposite of literally EVERYTHING you said here, though.

[@nickmancini661]

Wrong he describes Fred as being white. They listened to that lol

[@electricfeverx976]

@Nick Mancini he was so butchered in that show it hurts. Fred, he who was so pure and innocent, had been corrupted into being a sexist, man-child.

[@PaintSplashProductions]

@@electricfeverx976 FRED DESERVES BETTER!

[@Dimonds456]

@@PaintSplashProductions Preach. Even Fred being white somehow got botched, though, since being white is now a personality trait, I guess. Glad that's covered. I really wouldn't mind the race swapping if they'd just done it to be more inclusive, not to pull this shit.

[@queerestcandybosh7264]

Yep so ya know I miss the old Fred :(

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

A trait of Daphne that appeared a couple of times only to be mostly forgotten is that she believes in the supernatural. This happened a couple of times but is more prominent in the _Zombie Island_ movie, where Daphne gets.the gang back together for her trip trying to find a real haunted house or cryptid or curse; in that movie Daphne is kind of the leader and Fred is her lancer, the Scully of her Mulder. The dynamic of the group there is: *- Daphne believes in the supernatural and wants to know more about it* *- Shaggy believes in the supernatural but is affraid of it so he doesn't want nothing to do with it* *- Velma doesn't believe in the supernatural but is open to consider it* *- Fred doesn't believe in the supernatural and its very stubborn about denying it* *- Scooby-doo is a dog*

[@patdav56]

Honestly i kinda like the dynamic seen in Daphne and Velma, where Daphne believes in/is obsessed with supernatural like ghosts and stuff, while Velma doesnt believe in the supernatural, but like, DOES believe in everything else, like bigfoot, aliens, etc. Its a fun idea i could see being used well with a good writer

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

@@patdav56 like the protagonist in _Dan Da Dan,_ one believes in ghosts but not in aliens, the other believes in aliens but not in ghosts and the story starts when they try to prove eachother wrong

[@kiffley]

Daphnes dynamic in the pitch with the supernatural is: Daphne believes in the supernatural and is going to kick its a-

[@thatonepunkguy]

"he is not capable of wrong, only of oops." THAT IS THE BEST LINE IMO HJJFGSKFDG GOD I LOVE FRED

[@RemyRP]

Almost 500 likes and it's completely deserved

[@Sillyquackquack]

Big Lucio Morgasson vibes (from The Arcana)

[@mmmtm8930]

Read this right as he said it.

[@christophermetcalf7540]

I feel like more than anything else, Fred is the one who actually gets the group involved with the mystery solving. Most of the mysteries happen as a result of Fred leading them to a person or location he knows. And when there's a mystery in that area, Fred is immediately like "Alright everybody, it's go time."

[@TripleBarrel06]

Damn right, I always saw him as the team director, as in he knows his friends, their unique skills, and how to keep them on task. That's why he's always the first to identify when conversational banter is getting unproductive (Alright gang, let's split up and find some clues!) and he's usually the one tying together the proof presentation at the end of the episode, handing off to Velma and Daphne as the presentation strays into their wheelhouses.

[@christophermetcalf7540]

Never expected my most liked comment on KZbin to be about Fred from Scooby-Doo...

[@AluminumFusion22]

Funnily enough, "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" actually has similar traits to what JelloApocalypse wants in a likeable Velma. In that show, she had practically no social skills and was super eager to solve mysteries with her friends and was so involved in the mystery she wasn't afraid of anything. Her only real drawback was that she barely spoke at all.

[@kramer7937]

I think that was one of her strongest traits. To me, she wasn't just a quiet kid, she was THE quiet kid. She won't say a thing unless she thinks it's important, and the gang knows it. When she talks, EVERYONE listens. And on top of that, she has extreme gadgets and vehicles (like a family sized rocket skateboard) they can use in emergencies. And when she uses them, she gets a concerning intense look about her. Edit: Also she's legitimate nice to all her friends, a rare thing for Velmas. And the friendship moments between her and Scooby are just precious.

[@thevenomspino]

Honestly, the fact she didn't speak much made her seem smarter. Kinda like Onua from Bionicle. when she spoke, you knew it was going to be something really smart.

[@dravarian26]

I think "a pup named scooby doo" also has the traits he wants in a likeable scooby

[@zacharynguyen7286]

Hope everyone is doing good and staying safe ❤

[@christopherauzenne5023]

Additionally I also like how in the 90s movie series (zombie island) she has an active interest in the paranormal and supernatural and would actively study it (so she wasn’t just completely skeptical) which I think is an interesting trait for her

[@nugget3687]

Shaggy being a big fan of cheesy B horror movies needs to be a mainstay because it's such a fun juxtaposition, he's not scared of horror, he loves it, he just doesn't like to be apart of it

[@manis77]

Jello: "Scooby Doo is kind of a Russian Roulette of quality" Me: ah you like Sonic too

[@swordsmanthegamernine7973]

RIP Shard

[@thenewmase]

sonic is a Russian Roulette of quality but with a fully loaded glock

[@manis77]

@@thenewmase Yes, the ammo being the fans who are shot at whatever they make yet they still miss with almost all of the bullets

[@blueregardinkwood4875]

@@thenewmase shots fired

[@tinoizquierdo5646]

sonic is like playing russian roulette where every chamber is full but the first bullet was a blank

[@FRISHR]

Scooby: "Ru oh" Shaggy: "Zoinks" Velma: "Jinkies" Daphne: "Jeepers" Fred: "Traps"

[@pixelhavoc4950]

Fred: "LeT's SpLiT uP gAnG!!!"

[@dazed4305]

Scientists: worm! worm! worm!

[@williamthacker3866]

Ah, I see that Fred supports femboys, like the good guy that he is

[@red_five3325]

Dang it, I still don't have a catchphrase.

[@feliciabaxter6423]

i think it's "let's split up and look for clues"

[@captainbirch2.079]

I like the idea of shaggy being the kind of person that, as a kid, bounced around from random interest to random interest, and now as an adult, he has a crap ton of really obscure and useless skills. Velma being the woman of science who's so obsessed with finding actual proof of the supernatural, but is repeatedly disappointed by the "monster" just being some guy with a costume. Daphne being well adjusted "people person" of the group that will actually kill you. Fred, being the pure hearted man with the body of a Greek god and a brain made of mashed potatoes, Who's solving mysteries because it makes him happy, and that makes everyone else happy. And Scooby, the emotional core of the group. The glue that holds them all together

[@jamescallanan2443]

Scooby is Shaggy's pet but he's everybody's therapy dog

[@_-drowsy-_]

So basically Harold from TDI?

[@ob2kenobi388]

I'd kinda love it if the next new Scooby-Doo series had an episode where there's a hot vampire lady and Velma is immediately smitten with her and the rest of the gang think she's been hit with vampire hypnosis, only to capture the vampire at the end and have it turn out not to be a real vampire and Velma was just being _extremely_ gay lol

[@InfiniTeaElk]

I would like to say, one adjustment, don't let Daphne know how to do traps from the beginning. Let her learn from Fred. There's no relationship drama, but there's still plot, dynamic, growth, and development between the two. Plus, let Fred learn fashion or textiles from Daphne. Healthy couples engage with each other's interests and learn and love and embrace what their partners are passionate about. Let the "conflict" be Daphne struggling with her self-confidence because she can't get a seemingly simple knot right, but Fred manages to give her the boost she needs at the eleventh hour, supporting her and learning how to help her learn. Show Fred having a bit of a crisis bc Daphne's pulled the gang to a (haunted) fashion show and he keeps trying to be "better" in order to not embarrass Daphne, but it's in Daphne reminding him she loves him for who he is that they trap the monster of the week. Let them have the most positive girlboss/himbo dynamic while still learning and growing as people.

[@AwesomeLuna7]

YESS I AGREE. Most based comment, this should be pinned even.

[@PaintSplashProductions]

This sounds adorable, I want it!

[@kaedesaihara8578]

LITERALLY CRYING I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE

[@_______-3007]

yeah if you make a perfect relationship you might make it just boring (im looking at you lumity) so there should be a running gag where daphne cant put the traps right and fred has to teach her but in the most human golden retriever way ever

[@lordfelidae4505]

The only ‘conflict’ is worrying they’d disappoint eachother.

[@alicehodges483]

“The post posits that Fred says fuck” singlehandedly absolutely murdered me

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

I want you to know that I saw this before it came up in the video but I knew EXACTLY which post it was referring to

[@thrownstair]

“Computer! Respond.”

[@sheppin_]

I think a good character for Velma would actually be that she's trying to prove that the supernatural do exist! And that's why she's into the mysteries! That way she's still a scientist but like... an actual scientist open to ideas. This could even give her a lot of funny moments where she ignores the danger, sits the monster down in a chair, and starts giving them an interview on their paranormalness as the monster continuously gets more frustrated.

[@sophieb5537]

I would pay good money to see her interview a fake monster and watch the person in the monster suit become increasingly more worried that they'll blow their own cover with their answers.

[@sheppin_]

@@sophieb5537 Dude that would be hilarious

[@liviwaslost]

@@sophieb5537 that’s hilarious

[@ArchieRatsworth]

"I know ALL the common scams And the common issues and yeh, that cold spot is just bad insulation and that noise is...huh. Raccoon? No. No... oppossom in the walls."

[@thornheart86]

I'd love this.

[@lonagriffith5161]

I think that shaggys showdown is a hidden gem in the franchise, it may not be the best but scooby is such a loving dog in that movie and he’s very sweet and funny, like how he sings by howling instead of singing by just using words. It’s also really clear that shaggy is happy to help out in some sense

[@afellownerd]

"A bad Velma is a BAD Velma." This man is a prophet.

[@Phoebe5448]

I wish Jello Apocalypse wrote Velma instead of, well Velma existing.

[@lProN00bl]

For Daphne just combine all three. She's a clumsy girly badass. Can even have a lazy running gag where she falls into a trap but gets out on her own before anyone can even find her or realize she's gone.

[@maisie9705]

i love that idea so much 😭😭

[@MaeCraft]

Shout out to Aloha Scooby Doo where Daphne almost fell through a bridge and saved herself with floss for a rope

[@matthewcaffee2125]

*falls into a spikepit* shaggy: like, are you ok down there? daphne, appearing from the corner covered in several injuries and hair like she's been electrocuted: nah i'm fine let's keep moving *runs up ahead just as clumsily as the first time likely to fall into many more*

[@luluzin5022]

Fred is the trap-maker. Daphne is the trap-setter. She walks ahead and makes the journey through the villain's territory safer for the rest of the gang lmao

[@Grim_Sister]

I’d actually like her to be Badass Daphne and Girly Girl Daphne. Velma can be a Clumsy Cutie. It’ll add to her adorkable charm

[@MuffinKirby27]

As someone who just watched the Velma show, I can now see why HBO will spend the next century kicking themselves for not watching this or hiring you. You could've saved that show

[@kriscubero6778]

Sorry, man, today's goal of Hollyweird is not to cater to fans but to those who "criticize" them "properly".

[@BranBal]

Pretty sure all that money they throw on these woke abominations is intended to laundering money

[@gadoplays8478]

Calling fred a small white dick guy was EVEN MORE beyond disrespectful now that i watched this video, Velma Show from what i heard overuses this damn "joke", Also being previleged and insert media cancel culture text explaining why white people = bad(Velma show aproves)

[@aidenflame1576]

Thissssds

[@ErieMyri]

Im kinda buying the theory that it was created to make people hate watch it. What with the advertising being very in-your face aggressive "wokeness" and the show just genuinely being bad at best and being creepy and fucking gross at worst. Even if it wasnt created to make you hate it, Season 2 1000000000% will be like that, because dispite the awful rating and reviews, they got an insane amount of viewers from hate watching. Its gonna be gold seeing them renew and renew the show to cater to the hate watchers to the point they actually make a good show (at least in the so bad its good sense unlike now where its just awful.

[@sunnypupbarks]

this is one of my most watched videos in my comfort playlist and somehow the wonder bread guy mention shocks me every time

[@SleepyHollowKnight]

Omg same what other stuff do you have?

[@sunnypupbarks]

@SleepyHollowKnight dropout and drawfee compilation videos, drew gooden, Amanda the Jedi, and Kappa Kaiju mostly 😅

[@SleepyHollowKnight]

@@sunnypupbarks oh yeah that’s fair, I love Drawfee!

[@alyssarivera9575]

The worm chant with the scientists was so accurate its painful. We literally do experiments and people will gather around to see the results and we’ll say dumb stuff like that. It’s great.

[@ZorrotheArtist]

WORM WORM WORM WORM WORM WORM!!!!

[@KayBbyXOXOXO]

I think a better Velma would go from "are ghosts real?" to "which ghosts are real and which are people causing problems?"

[@lordfelidae4505]

“And which of the former *were* the latter until they ruined Daphne’s date night.”

[@Pikminchick]

​@@lordfelidae4505underrated comment right here

[@anothervagabond]

When you were talking about Velma's skepticism in later series and how often they've faced off against real supernatural stuff, I just realized what I think would be part of the perfect Scooby Doo series. So far, at least as far as I'm aware, the "these monsters are real" stories have always been pretty well separated from the "it's a guy in a mask" stories, so why not mix the two together? Make a series that's *explicitly* about the fact that Mystery Inc. is uniquely suited to be sniffing out the scam artists *because& they've seen the real thing so often. Each episode, then, becomes partly about the mystery, but also partly about figuring out whether they're dealing with a real monster this time, or just another guy in a suit. This could also allow, for example, Velma and Shaggy to share roles as the "smart" ones: Velma knows real world history, mythology, theology, and so on, so she's the best at recognizing real monsters since most of them would be based off of the actual legends, while Shaggy's the one with all the pop culture knowledge, the B horror movies and so on, so he'll recognize all the tropes and stagecraft that scam artists will rely on to trick people. This also means you could have the episode where a werewolf dresses up as a vampire to scare people away from the hotdog stand or whatever so he can find the treasure that was hidden there a long time ago.

[@pamspray5254]

I love this. I believe some of the shows and movies are canonically in different universes, some which have magic and some which don't. Mystery Incorporated set their world to be mostly or entirely without magic depending on how its argued. But how funny would it be to have a mystery where a bunch of faires(or similar) were trapped by someone in a sack and accidentially become a villain as they wreak havoc through the town trying to get out. People think it's a living scarecrow or something, but nah. It's just a bunch of confused magical creatures. Bonus points for beautiful airhead Fred having been the source of the trapping by accidentially forgetting he left one set somewhere. Could teach kids about responsibility and time management or something like that.

[@josephperez2004]

The idea that Shaggy could help differentiate fakes from real monsters reminded me of that whole thing about how they use corn syrup to mimic blood in many movies. I could just imagine the gang finding some supposed haunting where blood is oozing from the walls and Shaggy, completely unmoved, walks up to the wall, pulls out a snack and dabs the blood on it and takes a bite before turning to everyone and saying "If this ghost is real it must have died in a candy factory because this blood is delicious!" or something along those lines.

[@anothervagabond]

@@josephperez2004 Or walking up, dabbing a snack in the blood, taking a big bite... and then just staring at the wall before saying "Oops."

[@pamspray5254]

@@josephperez2004 Chocolate syrup can also be used, especially in black and white films. I've seen strawberry and chocolate syrups mixed in one film where we needed a lighter color of blood, I think. Just saying- delicious.

[@wumpus976]

Best idea for the franchise EVER. Especially if the fakes are all based on actual ghosts and stuff in-universe. Like the Space Kook could have been the legend of an astronaut who crash landed in an airstrip and died, and so someone uses that legend to scare people.

[@MiningNatureYT]

I think one of my favorite takes on the Scooby Gang is actually in the Supernatural crossover episode, funny enough... Seeing the characters slowly break down as they come to terms with actual monsters is so good, especially the way the writers turn their characteristics (ie, Velma being a nerd or Fred liking traps) into them spiraling, which is actually showcased the best with Fred, where he starts out with his normal booby traps but as he learns more and more from Sam and Dean, he ends up spiraling down a rabbit hole of more and more complex traps involving the Supernatural show's gimmicks until he's just completely lost it, because nothing is working like he expects

[@darkestcarving8735]

Velma-intelligence Shaggy-wisdom Daphne-charisma Scooby-dog Fred-multi-tool Fred can be anything!!!!!!!!

[@Catterjeeo]

Scooby - doo

[@animeperson9517]

Hotel: Trivago

[@endlessinferno9610]

Mountain: Dew

[@Lord_Numpty]

Shaggy-Str/Dex

[@twist_ending7545]

@@Catterjeeo that made me wheeze

[@RelativelyBest]

"Skillmonkey" is now a character archetype I want to see in more media. Like a renaissance man except only competent at a lot of random and seemingly useless stuff they learned out of curiosity or amusement. People like that are weirdly fascinating. Also I think I sorta fell a bit in love with your ideal Velma.

[@joshquatch2980]

kinda reminds me of the concept of the crouching moron, hidden badass, somebody who seems like a useless idiot but can actually be incredibly competent and badass in categories they're good at/just hiding their competence under incompetence for whatever reason

[@creed8712]

@@joshquatch2980 that’s just Shaggy though. He’s a master chef, racecardriver and gymnast

[@clash_pineapple_]

If you like monkeys with skills, bloons td is the game for you

[@doctorwholover1012]

@@joshquatch2980 iconic example would have to be Ron Stoppable lmao

[@brunoactis1104]

That's a growing archetype irl because of the internet and the random knowledge it holds.

[@acea.4188]

As a scientist, I can confirm everything you said was true. If someone ran up to me, covered in glowing green goo and yelling about ghosts, I'd research that shit like no tomorrow

[@TheGyldenaut]

very important question for you mr Scientist Ace Anderson worm?

[@themudkip5295]

@@TheGyldenaut WORM WORM WORM

[@creepynugget6641]

@@TheGyldenaut Is it a new type of worm?

[@TheGyldenaut]

@@creepynugget6641 idk i studied in archaeology

[@inkling457]

@@TheGyldenaut I found this hilarious for some reason XD

[@messylyssa]

Mystery Incorporated is THE BEST Scooby Doo Show!! As a fellow Scooby Stan, that is the only series I have re-watched multiple times.

[@FabbrizioPlays]

I hate to use such an overused phrase, but it's almost a deconstruction in a way. Like I don't think any other iteration put nearly as much thought into it. It's much more *crafted* than a normal Scooby Doo series.

[@nathanblackburn1193]

I think a good Velma should be like a huge paranormal nerd, she's not a Scully she's a Mulder but what she does hate are hoaxes so when the clues start hinting that the "monster" is somebody pretending to be a monster she hates it and starts getting snarky towards the culprit, she also could have a running gag about really obscure paranormal trivia like "Everyone knows werewolves hate grapefruits" and no one can tell if that's a real thing or if she's just making it up

[@ricardoj376]

Fudge, this is hilarious!

[@patricksvarietycorner5700]

I love supernatural

[@Menosh]

Bonus points if she *knows* no one can tell if she's making it up, and occasionally tries to see how many times she can get away with spouting bogus before somebody calls her on it.

[@sev1120]

Like she has a safe box in the mystery machine that nobody else goes into and inside it is stuff like holy water and wolfsbane

[@thatguynamedgabestyfy8348]

Oh so she could like say modern mirrors would show a vampire because modern mirrors don’t have silver in them

[@potatoesstarch2376]

To be fair to the Velma-Shaggy-Scooby love triangle, if you're ever in a REAL life relationship and your partner asks you to choose between them, and a pet, you choose the pet. That's a big red flag. Exceptions include Allergies, and trauma. Though my pet is a bunny, so if you're trying to come at me with a rabbit related trauma, you better also be walking off the set of Monty Python.

[@calebsmith9448]

Run away! Run away!

[@RaithSienar]

Doesn't matter if it's trauma either. Trauma is met with at least sympathy and no ill will as we break up, but ANYONE who tells you to choose between something you love and them gets the boot. Doesn't matter the reason, the only thing that the reason can change is whether or not you should dislike them afterward.

[@OnlySayori]

i think its more of a red flag to have the situation of the them or the pet...i mean if there going to be a douche and just act like the pet dosnt matter and act as if its disposable then choose the pet and go off to someone better..

[@Nestnestsoto]

LMFAO

[@Righthandfrombehind]

Clap slap Clap.

[@animekittykitty]

I actively like the idea of a Velma who is so secretly into the occult that she's probably one of the main reasons the group visits these "haunted" locations. She knows science stuff, which is why she has all this ghost hunting gear that she asks Fred to pretend is his since he's been portrayed as the "light-hearted conspiracy theorist" a couple of times. It'd also make it a fun dynamic where Velma actually gets kind of bummed out when she realizes it's just a scam and that her attempt to prove ghosts and monsters are real are what inevitably causes the bad guy to be captured. It'd be kind of like in Ghost Busters where they were scientists, it's just that she secretly wants to be a ghost buster while keeping the illusion of "Oh, yup. Totally gonna be a chemist or... Ya know. Something doctor-y...."

[@Soufriere84]

That kind of IS Velma's M.O. in certain series, at least unofficially. It's just that by the time we meet her in, say, Mystery Inc., she's gotten so jaded from the monster always being some greedy capitalist in a costume (or a robot, that's happened a few times).

[@josephperez2004]

I believe A Pup Named Scooby Too when full ham on conspiracy theorist Fred. He always had these crazy grandiose theories involving aliens or mole men with time travels for something as simple as some missing gumball. And he constantly accursed his nemesis, Red Herring, of being involved as well.

[@MizunoKetsuban]

@@josephperez2004 To be fair, that could be chalked up less to conspiracy theories and more just to childlike imagination. Now if you dumped that on teenage Fred, then yeah that'd certainly be strange.

[@wugglesx]

@@josephperez2004 that was a little in part due to the national exaggerator i think it was called i actually liked the subtle call back to his magazine obsession with the trap mags in mystery inc. on topic though velma has always seemed to be the one that wanted the ghosts and occult things to be real even if she was the most skepticle at the same time. .. kind of makes shaggy scooby and daph pretty big dicks for never telling them about the 13 ghosts, ghoul school, the boo brothers, all the monsters in the reluctant werewolve lol. . if i'm not mistaken the first time the whole gang encounters something actually supernatural it's zombie island.

[@josephperez2004]

@@wugglesx Egad, Id forgotten about that magazine he read. Thank you for reminding me.

[@The_Official_Goblin]

"And Fred has a Netflix account, so what is shaggy there for..... *SEX APPEAL* " I died 🤣🤣

[@jjkeeney7162]

Yo Shaggy is also great at acting. He's always like tricking the monster into doing like a job or going along with a bit.

[@WinterPains]

Shaggy, master of Improv

[@LilyTheSmol]

Shaggy, as said in the video, has theatre kid vibes

[@caritahearts2405]

Shaggy wearing a lizards mask: “You wouldn’t if you… like… knew what was inside me…” The monster who got tricked into falling in love with him: *sad monster noises* Shaggy, taking of the mask: “Even…. With a super weird human face, man???” The monster: GRAAAHRRRAHHHH!!! *Runs through the outer wall and falls 3 stories*

[@doom7850]

“What does Fred say?” “Fred says ‘traësure’” “HE DOES!”

[@Shadow1Yaz]

I thought Jello was gonna say Fred’s catchphrase should be: Oh… oops

[@federicogiglioli8245]

Fred had a catchphrase in mystery inc: hold the phone

[@barockobummer2448]

Fred says fuck

[@doom7850]

@@barockobummer2448 HE DID NOT

[@Soufriere84]

@@doom7850 No. But he DID say "one sick son-of-a-bitch!" in an early episode of Family Guy that I'm pretty sure went into production before the Scooby Franchise got revived (even though it aired _after_ Zombie Island). The only reason it worked is because they actually got Frank Welker to do it.

[@yuujin8194]

NGL, I think you're missing something on the ideal form of Daphne. Her 2nd type is not mutually exclusive with her 3rd. I remember in What's New Scooby Doo where she was regularly damseled (Primarily through bad luck) and regularly saved herself in some bad ass way that usually involved her make-up or accessories and I honestly think that's probably the best incarnation of Daphne we've ever had. She's extremely fashionable, extremely capable, but extremely unlucky.

[@josephperez2004]

So, Trifecta Daphne? I could see that.

[@deprimada3560]

He never really mentioned Whats New, I dont think hes seen it.

[@Graysett]

Basically Totally Spies Lite would be the optimal version of Daph.

[@schris3]

What's New Daphne is kinda underrated compared to the Daphne in Zombie Island.

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

@@deprimada3560 bro this is Jello we're talking about, he's 100% seen it

[@NotSoPolitePerson]

"A bad velma is the worst thing about scooby doo" F o r s h a d o w i n g

[@Primal314]

"FRED IS A LAWLESS GOD IN A FORSAKEN LAND" really, really sent me into hysterics

[@turtlezinthesky]

"He is not capable of wrong... only of oops" Genuinely moving.

[@somethingelse4282]

For those that need it too much 50:16

[@patrickramseyart]

Absolutely beautiful

[@johnbennett6920]

So just to recap for everyone, these are what Jello thinks that Mystery Inc. should be like: Scooby: Lovable doggo Shaggy: A goofy MacGyver Velma: Molly McGee Daphne: Millie from Helluva Boss mixed with Azula Fred: GOD OF HIMBOS All in all, perfection.

[@breawycker]

>Molly McGee A man of taste I see

[@nickl2854]

Molly McGee/webby

[@josephperez2004]

The Ghost and Molly McGee was a surprising gem. I did not expect to find Master Shake in something so wholesome, though it makes sense he's the most upset with the status quo.

[@ccggenius]

@Eevee* He's also The Alchemist!

[@josephperez2004]

@@ccggenius And Gazpacho

[@unstableratdog4179]

I like how his ideal Velma is still from mystery incorporated. It’s… it’s basically her mom from mystery inc