Which Staples Do I Put In My Boros Commander Decks?

[@jwall1646]

Demmo: I’m starting out with Docksi- Me, a budget player: welp imma head out.

[@corruptpixel8441]

Yeah I hoped for some budget option for ramp or card draw but my god everything mentioned hurts my wallet

[@danielthefancybelle6047]

"I am not sure why people are always complaining about white with these things (ramp and card draw)" A few of the cards listed here were only recently printed, but a bigger point may be the price tag. The handful of "staples" listed here currently would cost me more than my entire non-budget Zaxara deck. This is not an option if I don't even know if I like to play whatever Boros deck I am making, much less if I want multiple Boros decks. The other side of the coin is that a lot of white ramp cards listed here cost 4 mana or more. In casual commander that probably won't be a big deal, but if every other colour starts ramping on turn 2-3 then you will always be a step behind. Which may not be the worst, since a player behind might not be the one the others focus on "eliminating". Red does have decent card draw outside the impulse exile draw though. It often comes with the caveat of discarding a card or two, but white, and of course black, both can make great use of graveyards, so this might be a better option than some of the white ramps shown here. Mayhaps a PSA is needed: I am not disagreeing with the fact that those cards can be considered staples. But not once did I hear a mention of how expensive they are while I hear a comment about a card saying "You can put it/them in any deck". Yes, you probably can, except when your 100 card deck is supposed to costs less than a single Dockside Extortionist. That was my only complaint, good video. There were a still few less pricey cards I may look into more for a future deck, thanks

[@project_swift]

10/10 points. The staples in Boros are SO expensive. There needs to be MORE card draw and ramp printed because they're still so pricey.

[@crawdaddy2004]

I think the issue with card draw in White is that that the most powerful draw (e.g., Esper Sentinel) is based on your opponents doing things. There are only a few really good ways to draw cards that YOU control. *** The same is true for the vast majority of ramp in White.

[@arthurbozelli4360]

I noticed that R&D kinda went the opposite way white used to do to balance the game: Instead of denying the ones ahead their resourses, you get more resourses if others are ahead. I kinda like it better. Everyone wants to do something.

[@ryanmanning2319]

I love bounce lands because they have so many cool interactions. You mentioned that they give you two land drops for one card, but they also put you back a land without putting you back mana, which is really important in conjunction with a lot of the white catchup ramp. In other colors, they're really great with untappers (blue/green), good turn two discard outlets for reanimator decks (black), actual ramp in Obeka (end the turn with the bounce trigger on the stack), good for picking up mdfc's. In short. I love them and will always try to find a reason to play them.

[@prob094]

Yeah I took all my bounce lands out of decks a while ago but have been adding them back in recently for all those reasons : )

[@mrpopsful]

I didn't even consider the Obeka trick

[@yugioh395]

I fully agree, but I’m so high on bounce lands I don’t think you need any of those synergies. You take a tempo hit of the tap land to draw a land. Effectively a 1 mana draw 1. That’s great in my book, and only gets better with synergies.

[@prob094]

@@yugioh395 True : )

[@codicarroll5537]

They are so versatile. The reanimate reason is my favorite when I actually pull it off

[@Luxorcist]

I have an “Aurelia, The Warleader” Boros Equipment deck that absolutely nukes people. I load her up with a bunch of cheap equipments and Double Strike and she just goes to town. Puresteel Paladin for free equips, lots of “attach this” equipments, lots of cheap instants like Infuriate to buff Aurelia as soon as she comes out. Lots of cheap indestructible things like Adamant Will, Avecyns Memorial(not so cheap), Divine Smites, As well as things like Reconstruct History for grave a little grave recursion for up to 5 different cards. Its probably my most explosive deck, ive taken opponents out on turn 5 with good hands. I have Helm of the Host in the deck too because it can go infinite with Aurelia, and i just added some of the new Myriad cards in from BG to make it more pod oriented!

[@karolkurzawa3246]

Boros is my favorite guild. I already have 10 out of 20/25of my decks. However I always try for each deck to be unique. And I don't auto include same cards in every single deck. But here are some of my favorite not mention in the video: Artifact: Sunforger, great card that might be great because of instant tutor options including settle the wreckage. Enchantment: Legion's Initiative ,anthem with save option. Land: Slayer's stronghold as usually Boros want's to hit hard and hit fast Creature: Lion Sash - equipment so many tutors and grave hate. Instant - Tibalt's trickery, because nobody expect counter spell from Boros.

[@LouisKing995]

The issue with a lot of white card draw is that you have to wait. Some of the payoffs are amazing (like esper sentinel, or smugglers share) but you still have to wait. Red card draw, be it impulsive or looting/rummaging etc, gets you the new cards immediately, which can make the difference in some scenarios. It also fills up your grave which most decks should be making use of.

[@cointoss4825]

im gonna mention treasure nabber. its a card a lot of people seem to be overlooking and it always puts in work

[@TheMaliciousOverlord]

Treasure Nabber is also really fun with Mycosynth lattice if you can pull that off!

[@adamrobinson6951]

I feel like Deflecting Palm is a massively underused card. Maybe my games tend towards bigger blowouts than others, but being able to redirect a huge hit once can really change the direction of an entire game. Just knowing you might have it terrifies players.

[@Nekophiliac]

I came to love Deflecting Palm back when I still played Modern Boros Burn (back before Eldrazi Tron became a nuisance). The number of games that card changed in my favor or just ended the game immediately was insane. I ran them main board to the dismay of many of the local Modern players-since I wasn’t playing the Tier 1 competitive list so they didn’t expect it and would just get completely blindsided by it in game 1

[@seanredmond1366]

Came here to ask why no deflecting palm? Boros staple for sure.

[@neillaw]

Came here to say the same lol Agree with him that red is the worst EDH colour by a long shot

[@mHysteresis]

Yes I added it back in a deck good in defence and in attack

[@Matiassanita]

@@neillaw mono red? sure. pair it with other colors and red brings a lot of good stuff. my marath would be a lot weaker without impact tremors, purphoros and mana echoes.

[@project_swift]

Boros is my favourite color combination. I've played it as my primary colours for the past 10 years. I have about 10 decks for Boros. I'm a behind the scenes deck brewer of a few youtube channels, and I'm known as Mr Boros in my local games store. This is video is a really basic, vanilla, EDHREC fueled take on the color pair.... Consider the following options as well: - Emeria Returns your creatures in the late game. - Weathered Wayfarer & Exhibition Map To grab your Emeria - Reflect Damage WAY more versitile than Deflecting Palm despite the 5 mana. Kills people with their own Blasphemous Act and other mass player damage abilities that are more common on Commander. - Sevine's Reclaimation & Underwold Breach Stonking late game value - Infiltration Goggles & Mask of Memory Combat based card draw - Cathartic Reuinion and Twincast effects Spell slinger based card draw - Bygone Bishop (and the others) Weeny creature based card draw - Final Fortune Often you just need that little bit extra to kill everyone at the table in one hit. - Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast People never see it coming - Legion Initiative and Eerie Interlude Mass blink + saves you from wrath and cyclonic rift

[@DevouringKing]

Do you have youtube or discord

[@toddmorzelewski5010]

Sunforger! Who doesn't love grabbing whatever you need whenever you need it?

[@Morrodin182]

About the Mind's Eye though, I personally would not play it. Not even in an artifact focused deck. 5 mana to play it, 6 mana to have drawn 1 card. Even after an investment of 10 mana you only have drawn 5 cards. Which is a terrible rate in my book. Also it eats up the mana you might want to reserve for instants, later in the opponents turn. So, you get into situations where you need to choose: 'Do I draw now and risk not to be able to respond to a threat OR reserve your mana to deal with a potential threat.' In both scenarios you set yourself up for a potential feel bad situation. Then again that is just my opinion :D

[@dylanfarley8136]

I agree, I didn't even put it in my Traxos deck which sorely needs card draw. Paying 5 mana and to then hold up mana each turn just eats away at what you're able to do.

[@yugioh395]

Your opinion is correct lol

[@edhdeckbuilding]

i don't love this line of thinking. rhysitc study can very easily be 3 mana draw 1. doesn't make it a bad card.

[@dylanfarley8136]

@@edhdeckbuilding I wouldn't say it's a bad card but I would say that it's inefficient and slow. Especially compared to Rhystic which is leagues better. I would say it's good to have if you don't have any interaction in hand, and have a stable board state where you can allow yourself to leave a little mana open to draw some cards. Or if you have a seedborn muse effort and a mana dork/rock type situation, then I would say it's actually better than Rhystic in that situation.

[@yugioh395]

@@edhdeckbuilding The floor of rhystic study is 3 mana draw 1, and this can only happen if it’s immediately removed. Not a fair way to analyze the card. The floor of minds eye is either a 5 mana draw 0 or a 6 mana draw 1, depending on how you play it. That’s horrible, and it doesn’t even get good until you pump another 5 mana into it. Every color has either burst draw or slow and steady draw engines for less mana. I could see playing it if I was trying to cheat it out from the graveyard with some artifact tricks, but that’s about it.

[@AntipholusofE]

Boros Fury-Shield is so fun. Whether you’re attacking in and they block with their best creature, or they’re attacking you with a suped up creature, it’s a great way to surprise throw some damage in the face.

[@scottricks1676]

Love this content man! Love the “off the beaten path” pov on edh.

[@sodacheo5556]

Reconstruct History is also pretty solid

[@HughMurphy395]

I feel like Jeska's Will is an auto include in any mono red or 2 colour red deck.

[@charlesmarkov7922]

You forgot about Reconstruct history which in my opinion is one of the best recursion cards for boros

[@satpiegaming6756]

I also like Boros Garrison to reduce land count so that a lot of the white catch-up ramp spells work when they otherwise wouldn’t.

[@psinaut4775]

Nothing like winning out of nowhere with the final 4 damage done by a Boros Charm.

[@ardenorcrush649]

You want looting cards on Boros. It's not only card draw, it's card draw plus setting up reanimation. Replenish, Resurgent Belief, Open the Vaults, that kind of stuff gives you a ton of value. Looking at archetypes, both Lorehold from Strixhaven and the Eiganjo/Sokenzan samurais from Neon Dynasty play with the graveyard in mind.

[@BFG93]

Arcbond is in every red deck and combat heavy ones. All it takes is one blocker taking a killing blow/huge hit to blow the entire board up. And its the creature dealing damage if remember rightly, so bonus effdcts if you have any trigger.

[@patrickbaillargeon7568]

I hate impulse draw. It is hardly card advantage. Also hearing someone else say red is the worst color of magic is so validating

[@NuSocTheKelDor]

Osgir wants looting effects over straight card draw or impulse draw. Faithless Looting, Rummaging Goblin, and the various Wheels put in work.

[@crawdaddy2004]

Any deck of mine that has white in it starts with 98 slots: commander and Swords to Plowshares are the first two cards.

[@the_names_rob]

You can also use bounce lands to pick up mdfcs and channel lands

[@psychicnecrosis8376]

Descent into Avernus is a pretty damn good red ramp spell, to be fair

[@austinchuilli3652]

Honestly mono white is stronger than mono red however I'd say mono white has the highest skill when it comes to commander.

[@xNemesiSxPR]

yes white have good draw this days, the problem is they have so much demand that non is budget. there is probably no card that is a draw in white that is less than 20 dollars. Mentor of the meek suck that doesnt count lol

[@xNemesiSxPR]

even in red which also lack draw. Cards like jeskas will are 15 dollars, they are not cheap because everyone wants them, there are no other choices, high demand. sad

[@GoldenTicket17]

Bounce lands are super good with mdfc lands as well

[@Tvboy777]

Missed a lot of strong looting cards. Draw that comes with a discard outlet can enable graveyard plays and is also just very efficient. A lot of them also accelerate your mana with treasure now. Faithless Looting, Big Score, etc. Wheels are also super strong. Not only do they tend to instantly refill your hand, they also tend to throw opponents off their game by disrupting their plans. Reforge the Soul is a great. I find these to be more useful in my Osgir deck for example.

[@edhdeckbuilding]

i don't find looting and wheels to be necessary in boros anymore. too much great white card draw.

[@legi0n715]

I like to play with the indestructible lands and if I hit it right I cast a cleansing wildfire on my own land, ramp draw for 2

[@jeremykline6687]

How do you feel about glittering stockpile? Maybe it’s a bit more of a red staple (or not) but maybe mirror is just a bit better specifically for boros.

[@brendandidycz5480]

Are you sure the Mirror works like that? It doesn't copy the creature until it already has etb'ed, so you wouldn't get the copied creature's etb effect.

[@edhdeckbuilding]

yes. cursed mirror has the important wording of "as it enters the battlefield" just like a clone. so it does get etbs just like clones.

[@brendandidycz5480]

@@edhdeckbuilding Interesting. Very informative, ty!

[@legi0n715]

Hey mate, I was just scrolling through enchantments (uncommon) a-z in white and I found one called, Archery Training and I was wondering if this is good/bad and is anyone running this?

[@Kennythesamuri]

Oh cool, I will have to check that out!

[@prob094]

Not generically good but that is the fun part of deck building... finding the one random commander that it fits in : )

[@cteal2018]

The only commander in Boros I enjoy is Firesong and Sunspeaker

[@Xepscern]

The lack of recognition to Showdown of the Skalds

[@Logan619ine-i5q]

I need help I’m building zirda fox tribal boros aggro equipment and it just doesn’t feel like it does much in a turn but its really lacking good card draw you have any good suggestions zirda reduces activated costs by 2 goes infinite with both monoliths so infinite draw with staff of domination but i need help with card draw even more effects like faithless looting will help i can post decklist for anyone who is interested

[@danieltarazonalapena6403]

Jeskas will?

[@snowflake3114]

Here's a scenario you may or may not be familiar with: You're mana screwed out of white mana and stuck with all these Mountains and white spells. One of the next cards you draw may be a Plains or some red removal to stave off threats, but your opponents will sooner recognize you as easy prey before you get to them. Oh man, if only you had some very helpful card draw in red... 😏

[@Spirited_skiing]

If you need white to make the deck run, why did you keep a hand without enough white mana sources though? I know it hurts to mulligan to 6 especially in boros (particularly before this year with so much card draw), but if you get behind in boros without access to your sweepers you lose real quick

[@snowflake3114]

@@Spirited_skiing more the reason to have some card draw/responses in red!

[@Spirited_skiing]

@@snowflake3114 please no. Red has a ton of card advantage, giving them card draw too would be very bad. Red is actually an extremely powerful color in high power edh thanks to all of the rituals, and if it got good card draw it would not be good. Fizzling needs to have serious costs or else people will go for it every turn. If you just need to churn through your deck, thrill of possibility and wild guess are fine, especially since white has gotten so good at reanimation. You also have reckless impulse, light up the stage, etc. Tl/dr: red is actually really strong in high power and cEDH where it storms off, and is only bad at fair magic, and would be incredibly busted with a card draw engine

[@austinbrich8605]

Can I get the list?

[@travismeyer1670]

How does boros charm kill a planewalker?

[@edhdeckbuilding]

deals 4 damage to target player or planeswalker. it's been errated after the rules change.

[@travismeyer1670]

@@edhdeckbuilding interesting I did not know this thank you for the information

[@mirado57]

Why isnt Ball Lightning on the list?

[@dylanfarley8136]

I probably would say it's because Ball lightning isn't great in commander.

[@opalenero9578]

white has no more problems with drawing cards... true, if you're willing to sell a kidney

[@Morrodin182]

Lies! Your soul will do just fine! :p

[@memnarchprogenitus9839]

6:38 I disagree. Since a year I comment from time to time under some Videos of you that i really don't get why nearly everyone is crying about white carddraw and ramp and nobody about the same for red. As far as i know there is not a single strait up red carddraw card and the same ist true for 'search your library for a mountain'.

[@missingdev0948]

None. It's hard to shuffle a deck that's been stapled together.

[@meatrace]

I don’t believe cursed mirror gets ETBs because it becomes a copy once it’s already on the battlefield.

[@edhdeckbuilding]

the wording is "as this enters the battlefield" just like a clone effect. which copies etbs

[@samwellfrm]

Demmo not understanding that budget players exist

[@edhdeckbuilding]

this is not a budget channel.

[@YvngCas]

Bruh staples

[@RainingUchiha]

to correctly word what you were saying. red has a lot of draw its just all crap. you are throwing away a lot of the cards you are drawing but thats just the theme in red because ya know fire is primal and basically a double edged sword. it works well in spell slinger decks where you can still use instants and sorceries in the yard but for what you seem to have built for your boros i agree they arent good in that situation.

[@kaiseremotion854]

red is chaos

[@connorcowan7606]

Not mentioning Chance for Glory is a literal war crime

[@jerryloiselle8507]

BoRoS sTaPlEs

[@allopeth]

Maybe a typo in the title? Should say boring instead of boros?