Which Star Wars Faction has the BEST FLAGSHIP? | Star Wars Lore

[@EckhartsLadder]

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[@mottzilla2]

EckhartsLadder tyranid invasion vs star wars universe

[@thorshammer7883]

EckhartsLadder Can you do a video on the Thinking Machines from the Dune series?

[@thorshammer7883]

billy mott That would be interesting.

[@doughilton6375]

EckhartsLadder could you make a video on the best factions leader? Like the individual person. Between the Resistance and the First Order.

[@thorshammer7883]

EckhartsLadder I got a new idea for these videos. "How would the SCP Foundation handle..." Basically the Foundation is gonna try to contain/destroy something from Sci Fi that crashed on earth before it starts getting out of hand.

[@thunderspark1536]

Make a video of how the death star moves, cause I see no engines...

[@thorshammer7883]

SATmaster728 Scholly A type of warp field I guess?

[@andaikatalah]

It uses a hyperdrive

[@thunderspark1536]

andaikatalah you still need very large engines to move when not in hyperspace. Ya know, how all other star wars ships move when not in hyperspace.

[@thorshammer7883]

andaikatalah By warp field I was talking about the stuff that needs negative mass to run not Star trek warp.

[@andaikatalah]

OK !!! I KNOW NOW !!!

[@flynnstone3133]

All these Flagships are a true waste of men and material. If the men and materials that were used to build the Supremacy or Eclipse were used to make Star Destroyers the Rebellion and the Resistance never would’ve stood a chance.

[@darthvader4594]

Grand Admiral Thrawn but the problem is that some imperials are foolish even in using normal star destroyers,except you.

[@flynnstone3133]

Darth Vader But that doesn’t matter when you have a extra thousand in your fleet, my lord.

[@joebobulus5095]

But if these flagships were used correctly the same can be said.

[@scifiX9]

you mean tie defenders ?

[@Mike-mt4ln]

Grand Admiral Thrawn but what if the empire built eclipses instead of Death Stars?

[@garrettobrien5197]

Who has the best fleet Black sun, consortium, huts,hondos pirates So criminal factions

[@youngsmitty347]

Garrett n Tucker 44 Zann Consortium. Mainly because they're so OP.

[@Nonameisback999]

Logan Smith need a really big gun?

[@marineduard6901]

Zann consortium hands down. HE has venators, aclamators and even some separatist and ex imperial ships.

[@AAhmou]

Hondo's pirates' fleet is a joke. there was barely a functioning battleship sized ship, additionally to not that well armed old ships. The black sun comes after, their greatest asset is that had hundreds of ships at their disposal. The Hutts are next in the scale of power not only did they have supremacy over the underworld for thousands of year, they also hold the control of handful planets as usual their main fleet is made of old dreadnoughts, kossak class ships and several types of corellian ships but their biggest asset they have is their mercenary fleets, they could hire the deadliest bounty hunters to backup their fleets in case of battle. Then the most powerful fleet among them all, the zann consortium's it is made of all types of ships from old ships that they could obtain from the black market or salvage to the highest end imperial prototypes including tie defenders and the really big gun (If you know what I mean ;) ) passing through starvipers and mandalorian ships. They have the most diverse fleet and more importantly the most powerful ships of all the criminal groups previously mentioned.

[@Sparky-gp9vh]

its_ phazer_ it’s obviously hondos fleet, it’s the most overpowered thing in the universe, could’ve easily destroyed the death star

[@generalgrievous4341]

Were this a versus series, your argument against the Malevolence would be entirely justified. However, this is *not* a versus series, so it’s not. The Malevolence did what it needed to. It could take out any ship the Republic threw at it, and it could take them out entirely. It didn’t *need* a superlaser. It didn’t *need* super powerful weapons systems. Why waste resources on what was basically a mobile capital city when they didn’t need to? Also, I’d prefer going back to the old factions, the Republic, Separatists, Rebels, and Empire.

[@Jay-629]

I agree with his choice of the New Republic replacing the Rebels, however, the FO was entirely unjustified. He could have used the Mandator 1 or 2 instead.

[@kanu3331]

Viscount will win

[@orrithoreggertsson3000]

Which Star Wars Faction has the BEST SPECIAL FORCES?(droid commandos, republic commandos, inferno squad etc., could include multiple special forces from each faction)

[@LiamCameron77]

surprise

[@tori9365]

Too

[@MinecraftRader]

Orri Thor Eggertsson it was made!

[@Tumbleflop]

RC wins, GG

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Order 66 likes

[@CatNibbles]

I agree with your rankings but I think you don't give the Malevolence as much credit as it deserves. When you watch the Star Wars the Clone Wars show you can tell this ship is not lacking in firepower you lay say it is. It's bristling with guns everywhere. You even posted a clip where the Y-wing squadron was moving in close to the hull of the ship and just one of the sides of one of the gun platforms spares no room for anything but the 20-30 guns it has. And it has even more and larger flat areas where the same is left for the guns. I don't see why they would bother putting an Ion cannon on this ship if they couldn't quickly destroy their enemy before they can get systems back online, and ships are torn to shreds by this thing. Also, the Malevolence is depicted as being very maneuverable in the Clone Wars show. Once they detected Anakin's spacecraft in the debris field, that thing swung around in seconds, which is insane for such a large craft. And while it's Ion cannon might not be as effective as it was against the 3 Venator classes (even though it disabled all 3 of them in a single shot), it would at the very least disable large portions of enemy ships. If it went up against the Eclipse and it hit the right spot, it could potentially render the Eclipse's pintal mounted laser useless. Also, the durability of the Malevolence is quite high. Even after it's ion cannon exploding, the ship was still functioning (though with severe damage). It would have been able to escape the republic ships chasing it if Anakin had not reprogrammed the Hyperdrive to smash it into a moon.

[@horationelson2440]

Makes me wonder why the separatists stopped with one. If they built one, they had the infrastructure already to build another. They also have lots of large ships like the larger providence class and the lucrehulk class, and even their supply ships are massive compared to republic freighters. I mean, yeah as a single unit it would be expensive, but compared to the rest of the fleet, it is just a slightly larger drop in the pond.

[@joryschultz1610]

I agree this ship is the best

[@tic-tac9323]

apperntly atleast 1 other Subjagator class heavy cruiser in existance, honestly i would have kept production on them running

[@tic-tac9323]

actually there are atleast 3 of those ships, the Malevolence, the Malevolence II (surprise surprise it gets destroyed too) and an unidentified ship that was built by Enoth System Shipyards

[@tic-tac9323]

goddamnit theres actually 4, but the first one that was called, wait for it, the Subjagator, wasnt armed with an ion cannon, instead it was Trihexalon launcer, and so the republic didnt expect the malevolence coming with its secret weapon

[@drwfigureadventures]

I would argue there’s no evidence that the Malevolence’s Ion cannon would work significantly less on larger ships. I’d imagine it would still knock out everything it hits on a larger ship, having a knock on effect. For example, it could knock out power generation, or a huge chunk of weapons etc.

[@igorgorczynski6339]

Why​@adrienmcintire5544

[@GeneralGrievous_CIS]

​@UI_Shaggy05The thing about malevolence is that its main weapon can disable shields and not by destroying them but just by taking power from whole ship (shields can do nothing to that) if you don't believe me watch the scene where the malevolence fought 3 venators there it is said that their shields were disabled

[@GeneralGrievous_CIS]

So if they managed to shoot then they would be fighting ships with no offensive or defensive capabilities

[@douglasrandall3449]

Snokes Praetorian Guards vs Imperial Guards

[@LordSevarg]

praetorian wins. No questions

[@robertnelson9599]

I said a similar matchup but Elite Honor Guards(Halo) vs Imperial Guards.

[@robertnelson9599]

Also, in Legends their are several tiers of Imperial Guards who have force-sensitivity.

[@griffin1095]

Jared Graves I think that's debatable, I see no blasters or ranged weaponry on the Praetorians.

[@davidthewhale7556]

Praetorian

[@foxdoe7540]

they all suck, you can destroy all of them by simply ramming at lightspeed into them...

[@ufukcangencoglu2279]

Interdictors :What ramming?

[@rainbowappleslice]

Ufukcan Gencoglu lmao.

[@jessebento1562]

The eclipse had interdiction capability’s

[@rainbowappleslice]

So holdo’s even more useless against the eclipse

[@jessebento1562]

@@rainbowappleslice yes plus it would destroy the raddus with a super laser

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

11:20 It is also worthy of note that any friendly ships - capital or otherwise - would have to stay out of the firing arc of the ion cannon for best results. This would leave the Subjugator quite exposed.

[@rexattack18]

The best ship ever produced in the Stars Wars Universe was obviously the light speed runner. These tiny ships could take out Star Destroyers, Dreadnoughts, Death Stars, Planets, and anything in a 4 parsec radius simply by just ramming through them at light speed. Easy, cheap, and impenetrable these ships simply ruled the galaxy with an iron fist....

[@korakys]

The _Suncrusher_ was all that _and_ it was reusable. Also, you blow up stars with it. But I suppose comparing the _Suncrusher_ to anything else isn't that fun as nothing else comes close. I do get your point though, that was the most disappointing part of the movie for me.

[@bricksfromgreece5329]

No the best ship is the sky speeder from last jedi(jk)

[@Elloliott]

Actually, technically the Viscount does have a key feature. It’s the shielding, you know, being an MC ship

[@kanu3331]

true. also he didn't mention any flaws with the viscount like he did for the 3 others. VISCOUNT IS A GOOD BABY

[@darthvader4594]

My favorite will be eclipse.

[@SageSea1]

not canon

[@josecolon2717]

Darth Vader yup, there is really no replacement for a massive battle titan

[@PotatoCrusader]

I kind of like snoke’s ship

[@heliosjollywolf9552]

i prefer the executor, bellator or subjucator

[@meinbequemerstuhl4293]

I agree

[@ARC--5973]

3:36 I had the spoiler line cut off by an ad, so i got "If you haven't seen the movie: don't." Which is funny given that reflects my thoughts exactly

[@alvarohernani6645]

Long live to the CIS and his Munifecent clas.

[@robertnelson9599]

"Long live the Separatist cause."

[@kalebmitchell1481]

Yes

[@robertnelson9599]

The Malevolence's cannon is meant to surround the enemy ships in a field that shuts down all electronic systems. Ships as large as the Eclipse or Supremacy would not be fully affected.

[@Sirfing_Wolf]

I'd love to see a better ion cannon ship like the malevolence

[@mxracer3]

Clas(a) class

[@kevinnorwood8782]

I'm glad you hold Mon Calamari ships in such high regards. It gives me validation for my strategy when I play Empire At War as the Rebel Alliance. I always try to include at least two Mon Calamari Star Cruisers in each fleet that I build for them (three if Admiral Ackbar's Home One is part of a fleet).

[@kaleb0171]

How about Pride of the core (mandator 1) for Republic?

[@georgbergsten6050]

It was good for its era but compared to imperial, new republic and especially first order ships it's outclassed

[@jovanj2717]

9:58 The Viscount is such a phenomenal, well-rounded ship... I see what you did there

[@arctroopernull8733]

The Forerunners (Halo) vs The Ancients (Stargate)

[@Tortillachipgal]

Part of me wants to say Forerunners, because they seem more technologically advanced, and also because the Ancients always seemed to lose their wars.

[@josephsantos7432]

Cumorah Whittaker They made the Tauri (Earth) clean up their mess for them.

[@Nr15121]

Yeah I’d say forerunner cuz the ancients aren’t warriors which is why they lost against the wraith they aren’t tactically apt

[@josephsantos7432]

I doubt the Forerunner Fortress could defeat a fully powered Atlantean cityship.

[@aleksvillalobos8525]

The forerunners created the halo rings isn’t that enough information to settle the debate a series of weapons to destroy all life in an attempt to stop the flood. And they also created the Prometheans in a final attempt to stop the flood before the halo rings were fired. The prometheans were made from humans consumed by the composer. Then turned into war machines even the Master Chief had trouble fighting and killing.

[@eliloewy3771]

I have to say the Supremacy is my favorite. Not because oh it’s a big star destroyer, but because it puts a new take on the star destroyer with the MSD it’s basically a moving shipyard, seat of power, and as awe inspiring as the Death Star in rogue one

[@Arclite02]

...And then some dumbass had to go and call it a "Mega-class". Seriously, it's (presumably) the first of its kind, just name the blasted thing after the lead ship - Supremacy class Star Dreadnought. Boom, done.

[@motorboatmygoat2211]

thanks for doing my idea m8

[@ScotlandProfessional]

I would love to see a video of the Supremacy Versus the Vicount in a one on one and which one would win.

[@Scoobydum900]

I said this in the Discord once!

[@samdale3937]

What about the republics Mandator class, that was a very large ship(about 6km) would it not class as a dreadnought?

[@eddierudolph7694]

Anything over 5 kilometers

[@gabrielbrunet7150]

It was indeed a dread naught but I think eckarts need more intel on the ship we don't know much about the mandator

[@Em-yd9jn]

Sam dale Pffttttttttt. 6kms ain shiettt boiiii

[@lukasbocker6740]

If I have to rank them by logic, the eclipse is absolutely top in design. Even if I totally love the Mon Calar style and the Raddus is one of my favorite ships in all of Star Wars. I hated to see it destroyed in the last Jedi so quickly without getting to see its fighting abilities. But loved the portrayal of the iconic Mon Calar shielding. I totally agree with your ranking.

[@Perfect_Chaos_Productions]

I feel like you often underestimate the power of the malevolence. We see on 2 separate occasions that smaller ion weapons can take out much much larger ships. Ion bombs in rogue one and the ion cannon in Empire strikes back both disable an Empiral star destroyer completely and relatively easily. I feel we can assume that the Ion cannon on the malevolence is several times more power then those 2 examples.

[@enzoi5775]

Elite squads for each faction which one is best

[@Alpharius93]

Please yes!!!

[@rustyblade9400]

Inferno squad

[@Olli41999]

inferno is noting compared to comandos and ark troopers i mean they dont even fight for their faction in hard times they just leave like a bunch of pussys

[@someonewhoisntokay2101]

Peißen Jan Oliver in hard times they do the right fucking thing you moron

[@khamulthewack4732]

Could the Subjugator even operate in a fleet? That ion cannon seems rather unwieldy, and I'd be concerned about blasting my own ships as much as the enemy's

[@horationelson2440]

The ion cannon only fires in a certain direction. If a proper commander is running the fleet, it would be very easy to warn and command the fleet away from the ion blast.

[@clovislfrc9881]

As a flagship, having your most powerful weapon on your broadsides is a disadvantage compared to having a nose mounted weapon. It means that to utilize it you will need to face your broadside to the enemy which isn't very tactically sound. Mounting it on a destroyer's or a corvette's broadside would be far more effective as they are mobile and can flank enemies

[@Herpaderp8354]

LFCATFE if a weapon like that was mounted to a destroyer or frigate, the best it could take out is a few fighters, it wouldn't have the power. And having it on the broadside would be better in this case because if it worked in a fleet situation, the other vessels would protect it and it could make a quicker getaway if needed if it was pointed away from the other vessels/debris in its fleet. It may also just go back to naval warfare on earth where the broadside gave more firepower as more cannons were brought to bear than just the few that could fire forward

[@Joshua-yf5mh]

I think that if your fleet is generally faster/ more agile than your enemy's and you have the proper ships for it, you could do a very effective broadside on them. As you circle around to their side, they would have to fully re-position or be caught in a line if they only turn in place. So you would either constantly force them out of position or they would be stuck in their own line of fire. Granted, im sure a good commander would be able to prevent this from being too effective.

[@nathanpace1601]

Earth doesn't exist in star wars....

[@beaverbac0n424]

Also for the malevolence. Firing the ion cannon will definitely hit other ships. And if it isn’t covered by ships in defense the cannon is exposed

[@jacobescobedo7992]

My favorite would be the supremacy of the first order, I thought it take the second place or first, yet I've seen the movie and it impressed me.

[@das_scharfe_s3921]

Nobody: Supremacy: I have the ability to shoot warped turbolasers

[@darkphoxgaming]

Funny thing... I once folded this paper star ship from an origami book many years ago that looked like a star destroyer, but had extra wingspan/fins that stuck out on the left and right sides that gave it a wider wedge shape, and I had even told my brother after I folded it, "you know what would be cool, if this was an star destroyer design" and many years later when episode 8 came out and the supremacy looked a lot like it, it blew my mind

[@sponge5]

Can you do a lore video on the New Republic? They went out with no screen time in the movies :(

[@wouter8794]

spongedog lol

[@The4Experience]

That is because the new movies are total trash. Read Timothy Zahns Trawn trilogy instead. In there, the New republic shows its teeth :)

[@99batran]

Flavius Todorius Thrawn is technically part of canon now. I guess that is good too. Usually they leave EU to help extend the universe

[@ufukcangencoglu2279]

@@The4Experience In the same time frame in Legends (about 30 or so years After the Battle of Yavin) The New Republic dealt with threats the same way they did in canon. By shoving their entire body up their ass.

[@Obi-ThreeKenobi]

5 years later and I still don't understand how something heavy is slower in space... when its weighless. Lightsabers make more sense to me lol.

[@SpeakEzTR]

You should make a video of your perfect fleet using any faction's ships. You can determine the purpose of that fleet.

[@SpeakEzTR]

That was fast haha

[@Gigas0101]

As a flagship I'd prefer the Mega-class for reasons that could be considered spoilers but also because the production facilities. I played Homeworld so having a flagship that can build its own fleet on the fly is not something to be underestimated.

[@operationangel7940]

Now let me say this: I know full well Star Wars doesn’t really care about proper naval vessel classifications. But the Subjugator class is hampered, in my opinion, via two words: Heavy Cruiser. It isn’t supposed to be a flagship, instead meant get into combat with supporting ships. Had it been escorted by a proper fleet, I am sure the Subjugator would be perfect against republic fleets and maybe even Imperial fleets. But in essence I think the Subjugator should never be considered a flagship.

[@rebelgaming1.5.14]

The Malevolence Arc was basically the Hunt for the Bismarck, only destroyed because of a flaw and lack of support, like the Bismarck.

[@jordanhendrix2619]

How would you feel about doing a video where two wars battle? What I mean is, all the factions in a given war unite to fight all the factions of another war? Examples include; The Old Republic and Sith Empire vs the Rebel Alliance and the Galactic Empire or The GAR and CIS vs the New Republic/Resistance and the First Order I feel like a battle of that type would be pretty interesting, and could also be an experiment to draw in viewers/subscribers. This is just off the top of my head and I have no idea what to think about it otherwise, so I guess, like if you agree? Anyway, just an idea.

[@zeratul____1228]

Rebels and Empire would get destroyed by both choices as each is designed for war. the CIS/Republic vs Old Republic ear could be interesting

[@zanderbagley6836]

Hes already made the Old Republic + CIS vs Empire + Rebellion, you can find it if you search it

[@steel58836]

Zander Bagley he means the old old republic. From like 4 to 3,000 years ago

[@zanderbagley6836]

steel58836 ah ok

[@R463R]

I am convinced _The Supremacy_ was initially meant to be named _The Eclipse,_ but Rian Johnson changed the name.

[@ashandtodd]

In a fight I think this is how it would go: Malevolence deactivates and destroys the vicount then the eclipse super lasers the malevolence then holding off the supremecy with its extremely strong weapons and the eclipse fighters win from the sheer amount of them ( the Vicount didn’t get to launch fighter because it and its fighters were deactivated and those Tie interceptors and other Ties are better than vulture droids and the FO fighters would be better but they have no whispers or anything other then special forces Ties and normal FO Ties and the Eclipse’s main weapon would recharge and destroy the Surpremecy)

[@Pepsi-Mann21]

You really don't like the viscount, don't you?

[@Wellheresthething]

I lover ur intro music, I like to watch ur Star Wars vids and the intro music just gives me that Star Wars vibe for some reason.

[@spencerd3696]

But what about the Raddus and Home One?

[@spencerd3696]

Toxic KZbin true, in comparison to the others, they don’t really hold a candle.

[@nicholaswong6737]

Home one was 2km long and raddus was only 3km. Neither are considered "star dreadnoughts" which have a minimum requirement of 10km+. Although the malevolence was only 5km itself...

[@shauryapallav5674]

@@nicholaswong6737 Home one was 1.3 km check your facts.

[@nicholaswong6737]

@@shauryapallav5674 check YOUR facts, the original Home One type was 2.5KM long in 1983 when Return of the Jedi came out. The accompanied art book that u could get put it at 2.5KM. It is only later on where one obscure source said home one was 1.3km long, when it is clearly longer than 2 ISDs put together in the movie. The general consensus of the Star Wars community and anyone who knows the actual ships and books is the 2.5km figure, Eckarts and Corey even reference it in one of their videos. Additionally, Empire at War has the home one about 3km long, which was an official canon/now legends game. Corey has updated its model in Thrawns Revenge.

[@shauryapallav5674]

@@nicholaswong6737 oh I didn't knew that thankyou.

[@xxred_devilxx7196]

Can you do only canon, since I didn’t even know about eclipse before this video and it makes more sense to do [Whatever the Republic has, I don’t really know], Malevolence, Executor, and Supremacy (which in The Last Jedi was basically doom, and could only be destroyed by a desperate rebel jumping to light speed into it)

[@history1099]

Depends on the task, in a open space battle where they know each other's capabilities it would be between the Eclipse and the Malevolence. If the Malevolence is able to properly deploy its emp it stomps every other ship, as once they lose power they are just an enormous target with no shields or defensive firepower.

[@mrdunk2955]

I think the Malevolence would still lose to all of them. If against the Eclipse they start at a long range, the Eclipse would simply oneshot it with the super laser. I they come out right on top of each other and a brawl/broadside fight ensues, then the Eclipse or any of the other ships will with their absolutely overwelming firepower, deplete the Malevolence's shields and likely destroy the ion cannon before it fires. If the ion cannon is fired in time and at close range its radios might not grow large enough to disable enough of the other ships, the Eclipse and the Viscount would easily be able to destroy the malevolence with even 1/4 of their firepower. And the Supremasy, well the Malevolence simply wont be able to disable it completely no matter what, it's just that big and the it will be able to reliably beat the Malevolence with like 1/10 firepower. And lets not forget fighter power, if the dreadnoughts deploy their fighters which vastly outnumber the Malevolence's, even if the main ship gets disabled the fighters will do short work of the Malevolence.

[@JadusMoltriel]

There is literally no scenario in which the Malevolence could beat the Eclipse, whether it's one on one or with fleets beside them. In fact, the Eclipse would still easily win even if it had no fleet and was on its own, versus the Malevolence and a full Sep fleet backing it. The Eclipse is just way too developed both offensively and defensively. Even if it loses its shields, its physical armor is INSANELY strong, thick, and layered. Even if its main weapons are disabled, it has substantial ramming power, plus its armor and defenses are so strong, that it can comfortably survive long enough with systems disabled to get the systems needed to win BACK online. The Malevolence has little that can even damage it. Its super Ion weapon is nowhere near powerful enough nor large enough to significantly phase the Eclipse, certainly not long enough or fully enough to win. And by the time the Malevolence got close enough to even attempt it, it would be obliterated by any of the Eclipse's countless weapons. And everything I've written so far holds true before even considering the Eclipse's main super weapon. THAT'S how good it is. Imagine a Death Star, but where its other weapons besides the Turbo-Laser are, in totality, equally as dangerous as its Turbo-Laser itself. That's the Eclipse. It absolutely deserves the top spot, and it's not even close. The Eclipse is the most powerful capital ship to the same degree Palpatine was more powerful than his peers. Well, maybe not that much of a degree, but similar. The only things that could logically threaten the Eclipse on their own, would be an actual Death Star, or the Starforges being commanded and controlled by someone who completely understands them and can utilize their full potentials in tandem.

[@criteriumgaming9457]

Truly interesting series of videos that put you into thinking.Good job

[@EngCenturion]

The Eclipse is perfection

[@kasen338]

You should do more of these! they have alot of info and are fun to watch!

[@barrybend7189]

Thunderbolt starfury from Babylon 5 vs the Sabre from Halo Reach. Oh and earth alliance from Babylon 5 vs the unsc from Halo.

[@cainmillen2005]

Barry Bend Babylon 5 sucks ass star trak iz bettear

[@barrybend7189]

Have you even seen Babylon 5?

[@dissolution9843]

I'd think Babylon 5 has the edge in a naval war, though I'd like to see ground troops from the Earth Alliance vs a Spartan.

[@SquarerPlanet]

Are we talking covenant war UNSC or post covenant war UNSC

[@SquarerPlanet]

?

[@natem1579]

Hey, just saw you on Reddit (DeusVultSaracen) and decided to come check out your new video, love the versus videos, and I may have a Star Destroyer obsession.

[@hdliggett]

Maybe a factions compared video on the best homeworld/main base location?

[@ivanblack7450]

If I could only have one I'd have the Eclipse but if I could produce them in numbers I'd chose the Malevolence. Still a very effective ship and you could make more of them than the others and if the size became a problem you could just produce a larger version but i think its a decent size. Big enough to bully and destroy all other ships (other than the rare gient ones like the Super Star Destoryer) but smaller than the others could make it a good option. Maybe you could also replace the Ion Cannon with a very small version of the Death Star laser if larger ships created a significant problem

[@LordTuskk]

I feel like the Malevolence could've won one on one with the Eclipse and maybe Supremacy. You made a point that theu are both slow and have low maneuverability so it wouldn't be able to dodge the ion canons, the hull would be the only problem and the fact that we don't know how long the ion canon lasts. If it could last 1 or 2 hours then Malevolence would probably win. I don't know, maybe I like the ship too much because it looks cool but thats just my opinion.

[@solidsnake6206]

Lord Tuskk that would be decided on who shoots first, if the eclipse shoots with it's laser goodbye mavolence and if mavolence shoots it's ion cannon goodbye eclispe, if we are taking the superweapons outta this then eclipse wins.

[@JoaoPedro-ec9hm]

and the eclipse would shot first dues to the malevolence having to go broadside

[@nicholaswong6737]

Malovelence wouldn't be able to fully disable the eclipse, and even if it did disable its shields, the malevolence doesn't have enough turbo lasers to take it down. The eclipse's armor is nigh impenetrable, and the eclipse is also 12 km larger than the malevolence.

[@jdkwlalos9]

The eclipse would just ram it. The bow was designed for that after all

[@louieatkinson2207]

loving thee videos Eck keep up the excellent work

[@ianrswilliams]

EckhartsLadder what if the Malevolence fired at a planet?

[@tallerstond8105]

Ian Williams it will probably disable the part it hit I guess

[@kapitanbeuteltier5889]

Wifi will be down :/

[@KingGeorgeV1914]

You should make a video on the best standard issue weapons of the Star Wars factions.

[@garritorious4083]

What about the Republic’s Mandator II

[@harrisonds3950]

Isn't that The Pride of The Core?

[@tallerstond8105]

Harrison DS pride of the core is a mandator I

[@harrisonds3950]

Lugar Fan I see... Thanks for the correction.

[@zeorox4490]

Good video. Now we need a Malevolence vs the Senat match up.

[@para_magnus2200]

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[@darthvader4594]

Darth Nihilus hello lord of hunger

[@para_magnus2200]

Darth Vader hello lord of fathers

[@para_magnus2200]

Thanks eck

[@RevReverend]

Video Idea: Which Factions soldiers (ground troops) were best equipped? This also goes with what kind of gear would they be given for things such as deferent terrain or for battle, like would they be equipped for short battles or long, large scale battles...

[@AzzyBoy]

Ccs class battle cruiser vs imperial star destroyer or mc80 home one cruiser 81st try!!!!!

[@Raving_Rando]

I still think a Covenant CPV-class heavy destroyer would be a better match up. :3

[@AzzyBoy]

Raving Rando try suggesting it to him😂😂

[@dylanbrusell6534]

love the video! Where's the republics pride of the core though? Would love to see a video on it!

[@tuscan9617]

I feel the Malevolence is a better option for producing numerous heavy capital ships. These vessels though lacking in firepower compared to other vessels of similar size or others in this video does have a substantial level of firepower. Its Ion weapon though having issues can disable entire fleets of star destroyers and leave them defenseless making the vessels lesser amount of firepower negligible. It would never face any other vessel on this list and win, maybe in a 3 to 1 but again it would probably be cheaper and more versatile having 3 malevolence's than 1 executor.

[@nicholaswong6737]

Sure the malevolence could be used and produced as a standard battlecruiser, (It being only 5km) but as a star dreadnought and flagship, it falls flat. Which is the point of the video. The ships other ships discussed in the video are 17km+ and have overwhelmingly superior firepower shielding and carrying capacity.

[@kanu3331]

viscount would win on a 3 on 1 beacause it uses a strategy. it uses it sheild against one then it lets out star fighters to deal with the other one ad then it takes the final one out

[@lenkagamine4145]

@@kanu3331 three of those giant ion cannon blasts the Subjugator-class can project and there is not going to be a shield on that viscount, mon calamari shielding or no. Subjugator's are basically hard counters against heavy shielding.

[@Pepsi-Mann21]

@@lenkagamine4145 and they get shredded in turn by New Republic starfighters.

[@RKNGL]

The Subjugator-Class seems like it could a line of ships rather than being a fleet's flagship. The CIS by far has the most diverse fleet of ships so it wouldn't feel out of place. We saw its effectiveness in the Clone Wars, being able to freely level Venerators would have given the CIS a major leg up in engagements against the Republic.

[@theKeshaWarrior]

The CIS has the best ships by far, with the best troops, and the best commanders. If it had been real life and not the "good guy always wins" mentality, the Republic would have been destroyed. Especially since the Republic was actually the bad guys all along.

[@nicholasavasthi9879]

I don’t agree, mostly because Palpatine was playing them. Even with everything you mentioned a war is still going to be unwinnable if key intelligence is constantly being leaked, or non-optimal strategies are being used. Remember tat the CIS was built to lose. If Palpatine weren’t a factor I would agree with you completely, but he is.

[@LieutenantLettuce]

The thing that makes the star defender unique is that while all of the other flagships have something super special about them, like the malevolence’s ion canon or the sheer size of the mega star destroyer, the star defender doesn’t need any of that. The mon cal cruisers are already amazing, and the star defender is just that, but everything is even better.

[@kennethkates3140]

Top 5 Imperial commanders from cannon

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

I agree with your decisions. Especially with the placement of the Defender flagship. It's greater shields would allow it to last longer against anything less than the Eclipse-class super-laser, meaning that the admiral and other command-staff can remain in a fleet-to-fleet battle longer and have less probability of being destroyed by combined enemy focused-firepower, positions or fighters. Avoiding have the head of fleet and leadership cut-off and leaving their allies leaderless. At the same time, the higher amount of fighters that can be released form the ship would grant more flexibility, defensive screens, offensive attacks and strategic squad-deployments than the other ships. Outside of the simple but effective mindset of more people throw into the fight. Your remarks on the Subjugator-class cruisers, especially the Malevolence, are also very accurate. The ship itself, while still maneuverable in the various depictions, would not function well with a supportive-fleet from the magnitude of allied fighters that can be caught in its Ion-canon and vulnerability against bomber-runs. It could only be used as a long-distance attack option, and with nimble cruisers to avoid being caught in the cross-fire of such blasts. Also, Space combat is 3-dimensional, not 2-dimensional. The location of the bridge protruding from a long tower at the rear of the ship would be dangerously exposed to anyone attacking from above, or diagonally above and behind the ship. The Malevolence can only really serve in independent gorilla-style space raids against small fleets from a distance. Not high-scale operations like the Battle of Endor or the CIS assault on Corescant.

[@HawkTheRed]

Halo Valiant Class Superheavy Cruiser vs Star Wars MC 75 Cruiser

[@tori9365]

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[@HawkTheRed]

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[@StarGazer2gaming]

I love the Malevolence, imagined if it was scaled up to super star destroyer size.

[@NinjaTyler]

@eckhartsladder I think you're not thinking strategically enough with the malevolence, sure maybe it can't take out the eclipse or supremacy but it can take out ALL their support ships, leaving the cis fleet with all ships able to fire and the enemy ONLY with their flagship, which exposes all the flaws you brought up, it can singlehandedly turn a fleet battle into a fleet vs one flagship battle, quickly shot the unshielded ships and even if it can't fully cripple the flagship the malevolence can still interfere with it's systems and eliminate any fighters it has, letting it's fleet destroy the flagship by surrounding it and firing from all directions

[@Ushoron]

Would be curious to see a video on the eclipse VS. The phalanx from 40k

[@mason3872]

It might be just me but the ion cannon on the maleovelent(not spelled right) definitely makes it the best. I mean it could completely disable a republic star destroyer/venator class. That means it could probably disable most ship/battle stations. Just think about this... disabling the Death Star.

[@lindgrenland]

Sub. Scribed. Your more in-depth videos on Star Wars stuff (compared to a lot of the other similarly themed channels) sold it, and I love your VS matchups

[@sc_art5408]

Which faction has the best generals/admirals?

[@brockgundich]

Star Commander, they did that a believe last week,you should totally check it out if you haven't seen it

[@eddierudolph7694]

Good idea, but needs best general and best admiral, since what makes a great general is different than a great admiral.

[@kanu3331]

maybe republic has the upper hand

[@lennysummers8562]

I think the malevolence is the most powerful ship in Star Wars but only if it uses the thrawn catapult… if it does that behind the supremacy it can knock out its engines so it can’t turn and the supremacy doesn’t have turbo lasers behind it

[@daleep7222]

20 viscount stardefenders verse the first Death Star

[@jackmulford6509]

Ninja 84 death star would win

[@Em-yd9jn]

Toxic KZbin Damn you're stupid

[@legacybeats7076]

Awesome video bro! Love your channel:)

[@daleep7222]

What would the republics flagships be

[@andaikatalah]

Ninja 84 the Venators of course

[@yog7439]

Ninja 84 Mandators

[@crowey3078]

No they had a mandator class battle Cruiser an 8km long ship

[@9.2.197]

TheMidNight Gamer. Pride of the core right?

[@9.2.197]

There is one. The Pride of the core. A Republic Superstardestroyer.

[@jenswurm]

4:25 "Its supporting fleet which realizes how big of a target the MSD would be unprotected is unable to break ranks" That doesn''t make any sense. Who would even be there to attack it, if the entire remainder of the resistance is in front, and it would be a totally useless ship if it couldn't defend itself for those few moments until the resurgent SDs returned.

[@CoreRealm]

I vote eclipse because it's massive and powerful... My actual favorite ship is sovereign And supremacy

[@jacobobuismansanchez1899]

I agree on first and last spot but I think the supremacy wins no diff against viscount

[@Sb129]

Empire (Star Wars) vs The Ori (StarGate)

[@PokemonMaster2695]

Love the matchup and I completely agree! If there was another faction in this, I would also put the Pride of the Core in this matchup

[@georgbergsten6050]

I'd say: 1. Supremacy (Mobile shipyard, hyperspace tracking and FO tech is very impressive) 2. Eclipse (High tech, gravity well, superlaser) 3. Viscount (Just a really good ship) 4. Malevolence (meh)

[@DDayJayke]

Often times I get stuck between my flagship being strong and manueverable, or slow and overall powerful, but as a flagship, I look for a ship that will have some flaws that will make the ship not be produced above 2 ships so I can know that with proper maintenance, tactics, and support, it can fulfill it's role as a flagship. Like in the Battle over Coruscant, Grievous's flagship, The Invisible Hand, was not targeted too much, because the supporting warships were there to effectively duke it out with the Venators. Like capture the flag, a flagship should be defended as it may hold EXTREMELY valuable individuals onboard, and will cost ALOT of money to build.

[@The_Alt_Vault]

The supremacy would beat the vicount simply because the supremacy is so large that it can take any amount of damage that the vicount could do and its fighters are nullified because the first orders Tie fighters are of far higher quality and can be produced on bord. Then once all the fighters or such a large amount of them have been taken out the supremacy can effectively just sit their and use its bombers to cripple the vicount. Then once the new republic choose to leave we end up with the situation in the movie. So the only way the vicount could defeat the supremacy would be to do what was done in the movie which at best distroys the supremacy or only cripples it.

[@edwardbarillas7263]

Just hyperspace-ram the Supremacy and it would be all over

[@artofwar6950]

Edward Barillas then any ship is weak, they can all be easily destroyed.

[@Em-yd9jn]

Zachary Thanstrom BUT CAN THAT BEAT THE ULTRA STAR DESTROYER?

[@andyjacobs7010]

First of all the Supremacy needs raw materials to construct vehicles. Secondly, if it could just sit back and use bombers to take down an enemy ship, it would've done so in the movie. It didn't, and that wasn't even a dreadnought it was up against.

[@The_Alt_Vault]

Andy Jacobs true but in the movie we can see what looks to be construction being done, that and the reason they didn't do this in the movie is one plot armour and two they wouldn't be able to provide coverage for the bomber's as we sour when Ren had to break of his attack.

[@VortexVortex2724]

Can you cover the new massive turbo lasers on the supremacy? Or the auto cannons on the first order Dreadnought?

[@I3oo1ve]

Which faction had the best special forces?

[@nathanpace1601]

All factions included in this video had some sort of Special Forces, the empire had Inferno Squad lead by Iden versio which that switched sides and became Rebel/New Republic Special forces. I do not have a exact name of a clone special forces, but the droids that invaded the place with the all good beacon up could be considered Special forces.

[@nathanpace1601]

And i don't consider a best. All had their share.

[@oisinkelly6251]

Next vid you should do who had the best admirals between the Rebellion, The Empire, The Cis and The Republic

[@videocomentaror322]

3rd

[@jakemalloy4947]

you are actually first. Never thought I would say that

[@matthewsannicolas2195]

Hey EckhartsLadder, I've watched your Starship vs series and I am impressed so far. I've recently watched the latest movie this month, Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi, and I want to proposed an interesting matchup to you that I would want to see. Because both of these ships were built after the Galactic Civil, I want to place the New Republic/Resistance MC85 Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Raddus vs the First Order Resurgent-Class Star Destroyer Finalizer. I believe this would definitely be an interesting matchup in your series (once there's enough detailed information for both capital ships).

[@travisjohnson8239]

Aye

[@adamsausmer]

The eclipse is basically a star destroyer with a beard if you think about it

[@comedycompilations7748]

Super Weapons! Super Weapons! Super Weapons! What happened to practicality! Thats why I'm not a big fan of the new star wars movies. It's an over reliance on super weapons to drive the plot. Starkiller Base, Mandator 4, and supremacy make the story to darn predictable! Enemy shows off big super weapon/ship. Rebels run and hide. Gain a small advantage. And kablooey!!! The weapon blows up! Good job to the New Republic! Making ships that are actually practical and not just a firepower show🖒🖒🖒

[@christiangonzalez6054]

How about a video on which fleet would win? And have all the factions, with a small fleet, go against eachother.

[@connorgolden4]

I actually really like the malevolence. so what

[@connorgolden4]

Fucking dumbass phone. So what if it's smaller, if that ion cannon hits you you're fucked.

[@minotaurmikeftwmike7712]

@@connorgolden4 exactly. Just look at hoth defense ion cannon vs the isd. It is tiny by comparison but crippled the ship. Or how about the experimental b wing vs the imperial light cruiser in rebels that one taps it. Judge me by my size do you?

[@hydra9476]

I would like to see how the eclipse would fair in a one on one battle with a Xyton class Star destroyer

[@liamhamm8591]

i think the malevolance would be effective with a support fleet. using the ion cannon to disable ships and use the main guns to pick apart ships while being supported by a large group of vulture droids and hyena bombers