Which U.S. Cities Are Safest From Climate Change?

Climate havens or climate destinations are cities that are situated in places that avoid the worst effects of natural disasters and have the infrastructure to support a larger population. Many of these legacy cities are in the U.S. Northeast. Watch the video to see where Americans can move to avoid the risk of wildfires and flooding from rising seal levels, and learn how these destination cities can translate climate migration into an economic triumph.
Millions of Americans are living in communities with precarious climate conditions, in houses that feel overpriced.
There is a solution for many of these people, though: Move to one of the so-called climate havens.
Climate havens or climate destinations are situated in places that avoid the worst effects of natural disasters and have the infrastructure to support a larger population. Many of these legacy cities are located in the Northeast.
Jesse Keenan, associate professor of real estate at Tulane University, named the following cities as possible climate havens:
Asheville, North Carolina
Buffalo, New York
Burlington, Vermont
Detroit, Michigan
Duluth, Minnesota
Madison, Wisconsin
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Rochester, New York
Anna Marandi, who served as the program manager of climate resilience and sustainability at the National League of Cities, added four other places to the safe haven list: Ann Arbor, Michigan; Charleston, South Carolina; Chico, California; and perhaps surprisingly, Orlando, Florida.
Orlando makes the cut, Marandi said, because the city has introduced measures to decarbonize. While the natural environment, such as being a noncoastal city, is an advantage, cities can “earn” the designation by working to provide benefits like affordable housing and being committed to economic sustainability.
“I see climate migration as an opportunity for these cities to avoid the mistakes of urban sprawl,” Marandi said. “They often have a vibrant, walkable downtown that might just need a little bit of revitalization.”
Keenan also stressed that climate haven cities need to help their own residents, which in turn will attract more climate migrants.
“This isn’t we’re going to build a community for tomorrow,” he said. “We’re going to build a community for today. And that’s going to be the foundation for the building of a community for tomorrow.”
Correction: Anna Marandi at the National League of Cities added two other places to the climate haven list: Ann Arbor, Michigan, and perhaps surprisingly, Orlando, Florida. An earlier version misstated the cities.
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Which U.S. Cities Are Safest From Climate Change?

[@MrFluffelufagus]

This screams, "How do I make this someone else's problem?" Cant wait for millionaires and billionairs buy up property in these ares, ruin their economies, local governments, laws, natural habitat, and do nothing to actually change the issue they're running from. I live, work, and have grown up around Aspen Colorado and the one thing that never fails is how the property owners scream about how bad climate change is while they sip on imported wines, drive 7.0L trucks, have houses with bigger cooling and heating systems than the mall of america has, and how they fly out every weekend in their private jet from Florida or Texas to go skiing on snowmass, only to just leave their litter all over the mountain side. The problem will never be fixed if people run from it. Sadly the ones that contribute to the problem the most, are the ones that can run from it the easiest 😕

[@thegreataynrand7210]

Climate change is a manageable problem. It's not doomsday.

[@ih2439]

Well said. We can’t just run away from the problem, it needs to be fixed.

[@Jc-ms5vv]

Sadly no known way to stop what's coming!

[@oriplaydirty]

The United States is a joke

[@beef-jerky]

@@Jc-ms5vv Can't stop nature.

[@American_Energy]

So criteria to be safe from climate change include: 1) Cities with affordable housing 2) Cities with green initiatives 3) Cities trying to decarbonize Ok, I think we have a very different way of determining whether a city is safe from climate change… mainly I’d focus on which climate is going to change the least.

[@jep1437]

Spot on

[@Erin-rg3dw]

Agree. These aren't bad actions/criteria, but having a perfectly green oasis in a frequent hurricane zone isn't going to make the hurricane go around. I also appreciate they mentioned not creating urban sprawl (which is bad all around), but the editors still chose to put footage of single-family homes as "housing." If we are concerned about affordability and making public transit/low car living a priority, single family homes are the opposite.

[@toydog5654]

Any city when flooded with people moving from climate change impacted areas, by economy 101 can’t have affordable housing.

[@Chris_at_Home]

With the price of petroleum going up I am going to start heating with coal as it is half what heating oil is now.. I know others doing the same thing as we can buy coal right from a local mine.

[@lsmith1237]

@@Chris_at_Home coal is a considered a fossil fuel, and creates CO2 (in addition to oil and natural gas). IDK if it's better or worse than oil, as far as how much CO2 and pollution is concerned.

[@bobbun9630]

There might be many reasons to move to Orlando, but I can't imagine that "decarbonizing" makes the city a climate safe haven. Orlando isn't, by itself, the source of the problem, so addressing the problem in that one spot isn't going to stop the sea from rolling in (82 ft. above sea level!) or a hurricane devastating the area.

[@donparks4300]

Orlando, Florida is going to be under water due to the sea rise.

[@bobbun9630]

@@donparks4300 Perhaps in a few centuries. Hurricanes are a bigger threat. The thing about sea level rise is that even with temperature increases, it will still take hundreds of years for the East Antarctic ice sheet to melt. Greenland and West Antarctica combined probably don't give enough rise to submerge Orlando. That doesn't mean, of course, that we haven't reached the point of inevitability where even if we do nothing more than what we have already done those ice sheets won't eventually disappear. With a massive system like the Earth's climate, the point of something becoming inevitable and the point of something obviously having happened can be separated by hundreds or even thousands of years.

[@mariadowler1279]

Florida will be under water in 20 years. look at your navy's map of predicted future flooding.

[@bobbun9630]

@@mariadowler1279 Some Florida cities will experience more flooding. Miami, for example. Naval facilities, which are coastal, may indeed have an issue--maybe even all coastal naval facilities in Florida. Orlando is not a coastal city, though, and sea level rise will definitely not be sufficient to make it so in twenty years. Pay no attention to sensationalist popular press "science" reporting. Those stories are written by reporters, not scientists. In terms of the science, it simply isn't possible to pump enough heat into the Earth's ice caps to melt them enough to raise sea levels enough to submerge Orlando (or even most of Florida) in twenty years. As I mentioned in response to someone else, it may already be inevitable that that will happen--the Earth takes a long time to reach equilibrium--but it's not going to happen in twenty years. Think of it a bit like pregnancy, if you like. Conception (certainty of future birth) may happen almost right away, but that baby can't be rushed--it's still taking nine months to get here.

[@hewitc]

Some smart people like Paul Tudor Jones have seen the writing on the wall and have begun to abandoned the Florida Keys. Eventually the Keys will be under water but even in the shorter term they are likely to bear the worst of storms made powerful by warmer ocean temperatures.

[@Bnio]

"Cities around the Great Lakes will have a SUPERIOR advantage." I see what he did there.

[@bigshotaviation8570]

Lol nice catch

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Nope just a boring swamp

[@Pistolita221]

@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN Detroit and Chicago are a lot of things, but they are not boring. I haven't heard that one before..

[@vsuryaR]

How to avoid climate change World: lower co2 emission, renewable energy, etc US: move somewhere else

[@shreyakommuri3929]

this is the comment i was looking for!

[@JimWilliams]

It's too late anyway. We're feeling the effects from the Industrial Revolution some 200+ years ago. It was too late back in 1970 when people were still mis-inventing reasons/ways it wouldn't happen.

[@jmuld1]

I fail to see any evidence that co2 is causing the current warming.

[@hattielankford4775]

@@JimWilliams It's not too late to stop making things worse.

[@RobertMJohnson]

How to avoid climate change: stop being a bunch of brainwashed weenies

[@Johnrl21]

I think this video does a relatively poor job of making any kind of concise point. I usually like CNBC’s videos, but this one just seemed a little pie in the sky to me.

[@1OverWeightDragons]

They have to tip toe over how they talk about this stuff because if they were blunt and honest they could cause panic selling and get in trouble

[@asoxy5462]

Plausible deniability equals the free, ma(son)ry game of confusion on the chess board...

[@kirstinstrand6292]

@@1OverWeightDragons what can one expect from CORPORATE MEDIA?

[@larryross1819]

We are fortunate to now have two very smart democrat black women competing for the best word salad recipe. Kamala Harris, a straight black woman, mixed together this delicious word salad: “We will work together, and will continue to work together, to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements, that we will convene to work together...We will work on this together." On another occassion our extinguished vice president served this salad: "For Jamaica, one of the issues that has been presented as an issue that is economic in the way its impact has been the pandemic...we will assist Jamaica in Covid recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica that have been essential." Competing with Kamala Harris is Karine Jean-Pierre, a black lesbian woman, who served this salad when asked how raising corporate income taxes reduces inflation: “Well, you know, we have talked about…we have talked about this this past year about making sure that the wealthiest among us are paying their fair share,” she continued. “And that is important to do. This is something that the president has worked on everyday when talking about inflation or lowering costs. And so it’s very important that, you know, as we’re seeing costs rise, as we’re talking about how to, you know, build an America that’s safe, that’s equal for everyone and doesn’t leave anyone behind. That is an important part of that as well.” This is her second attempt after having the simple question asked agsain: “So, look, I think we encourage those who have done very well, right? People who are concerned about climate change should support fairer tax codes. That doesn’t change. It doesn’t charge manufacturers, workers, cops, builders a higher percentage of their earnings that the most fortunate people in our nation and not let that stand in the way of reducing energy costs and fighting this existential problem, if you think about that as an example. It is important to protect basic collective bargaining rights. That’s also important. But look, it is, you know, by not without having a fair tax code, which is what I’m talking about, then like manufacturing workers, cops. You know, it’s not fair for them to have to pay higher taxes than the folks that who are who are who are not paying taxes at all.” The USA is blessed with so much democrat talent, woke and progressive, that's why our country is back on the right track. Our left, woke, progressive leaders have fixed every problem caused by that last evil president, plus no more mean tweets

[@asoxy5462]

Politricks! USA is a corporation NOT a country. Only compelling thing about Kamila Harris is the Adams' 🍎in it's long neck, which makes it a wolf in sheep's clothing and a LIAR!

[@elainegoad9777]

I live near Asheville NC and affordable housing is sparse around this area and there are lost of homeless in Asheville. Al lot of people live in mobile homes or slum trailer parks where the lot rents are high. There are a lot of flood and forest fires in the mountains as well s rock/mountain slides caused by erosion from taking down trees and removing big boulders from mountains to build mountainside homes. Human have caused the damage all over and bandaids won't fix the problems.

[@akash_goel]

How does decarbonization (on a city level) help with it being affected by climate change? That would mean the city is just prepared better for a fossil-fuel free world. We can have climate change and fossil-fuel independence at the same time.

[@anthropoceneclimatechange245]

co2.now the problem is the Global population has caused the co2 levels to go up. We live in a fossil fueled mechanized world.

[@4wardlobster]

Chico California… these people are irrational. Its running out of water and threatened by Wildfires every year.

[@miles5600]

what could that cause.....

[@drewirons2646]

This video lost me at Orlando. "Orlando is working really hard to decarbonize... they are really growing their green economy...". The Video goes on to say "affordable housing is a key ingredient in all of this." If rising sea levels and heat waves are a problem, no amount of local decarbonization will be of benefit. So is this video about avoiding climate change or affordable housing? I realize they are trying to group the two, with some rationale, but the message is mixed.

[@scottshane889]

Did you notice they removed Chico from the video? I saw it originally too, and now it’s gone

[@amarandi99]

@@scottshane889 it was an editors error. Sorry about that, they fixed it. No conspiracy here. :)

[@jessvee7256]

That’s so sad. Cali is such a beautiful state. 💕🥺

[@runningfromabear8354]

Prices for houses in the Muskoka's in Ontario, Canada have been jacked up by international millionaires and billionaires. Tons of lakes, lower risk for forest fires due to Georgian Bay and Lake Huron around it. They've been buying up large tracts and building massive houses with tennis courts and swimming pools and gymnasiums. Builders have talked about underground bunkers in there. One of my friends has a summer cottage up there that's been in the family for 70 years. They keep getting offers but it's part of their family traditions. But the money offered is crazy, they couldn't afford to buy their own land these days. When we go out on their motorboat, you can see these massive waterfront houses only accessible by helicopter pads or by boat. 20 years ago, these were all tiny 2 bedroom cabins and cottages that families drove up from Toronto enjoy. The wealthiest have already bought/built climate safe homes.

[@cajunstrat]

"climate safe homes", another laughable by-product of the religion of "climate change". Most likely these "rich people" are making real money off of this scam, like Al Gore.

[@greenmachine5600]

Sounds pretty bad unlivable tbh, doesn't seem walkable or convenient at all.

[@clockworkorange517]

Natives being driven out by incoming foreigners. In Canada? No way!

[@clockworkorange517]

70 years? Wow. Sounds like Muskoka is your friend's traditional home land.

[@clawhammer704]

The wealthy are buying ocean front properties on the coast ….

[@Justindorton91]

While Detroit is still suffering from its past issues, it is on an upward trend, but one thing that could make Detroit a good destination is how massive the city is compared to how few citizens live here from decades of people moving away, which should make land value and housing cheap. It's already an established metropolis, it just needs some work to bring it back to it's former glory.

[@ednorton47]

I would wait until the sound of the drums die down.

[@akbuckets272]

@@ednorton47 🤣

[@automnejoy5308]

There will be a second golden age for Detroit, you wait and see.

[@bernadettedunn6129]

if I didn't have deep roots in Chicago, Detroit would be my destination. I feel Chicago is a good place to avoid natural disasters. We have some crazy weather but for most part Chicago's climate is pretty temperate. I'm trying my best to reduce my carbon footprint. i want to leave a good earth for my descendants.

[@automnejoy5308]

​@@bernadettedunn6129 Pretty temperate? Doesn't Chicago have brutal, windy winters and humid summers? Plus you get tornadoes... and they could become more severe in the future.

[@arizonanative7409]

I’ve been in Phoenix since 1990. Drought now causing massive water shortage, and I’ll be heading out to … somewhere. I have followed climate change for years, not shocked by what’s happening. Very sad that I must leave.

[@jacklong7048]

I am originally from Phoenix. Too much waste of this resource. And the idea that its an entitlement. And now they want to steal water from Mississippi-which supplies 10 states. How arrogant.

[@CamGiaCrixus]

AZ makes me so sad 😞

[@themissinglink1459]

This is a concept known as "managed retreat". The idea is that despite our best efforts, we won't be able to stop things. Even if we got everyone on the same page, many believe we're fighting a losing battle and that we need to not only work towards making things better, but also plan for the worst (which many believe is inevitable). Avoiding plastic bags and recycling may make people feel better, but we need massive change across the world. We would need to eliminate the use of all fossil fuels and greenhouse gases including gasoline, natural gas, refrigerants, etc. Most people don't appreciate the scale of what would be required. Others may, but also realize that they won't be alive when the worst happens...

[@jamesgravil9162]

"We would need to eliminate the use of all fossil fuels and greenhouse gases" Or eliminate 90% of humanity. Which is probably more likely to happen, provided it doesn't cause too big a dip in profits for the energy companies.

[@amywalker7515]

Having fewer children would really be the best solution because fewer people and less mouths to feed puts a whole lot less strain on the environment. We are already seeing huge waves of migration, which will get worse as time goes by. If people don't have 8 kids, it would be a whole lot easier. Much more humane to limit population than have massive starvation, war and suffering.

[@cme98]

You do realize population makes it impossible to reach our goals. Humans insistent need to replicate themself is how economies grow, its how people become rich, itnis how wealth is shared, it is how poverty will never be solved, it is this ruthless selfish desire to raise children when we cant even provide shelter for the people we already have, or provide medical care, or food, are the fundamental reasons why its useless to even consider we can correct anything "bad" that we have caused. But even then Nature always has a fix & Nature will always do what Nature has to do to save the planet. We are a simple obstacle who have this belief we can destroy this planet & i can just see Nature looking at us & saying, "thats what the Neanderthals said, so i created an ice age."

[@cme98]

@@jamesgravil9162 if we eliminated 90% of humanity we wouldn't need to eliminate greenhouse gasses we create or fossil fuels. The only country who even bothered to try was China when they had their one child only law. Even a brutal communist regime couldn't lower the population of China, despite the fact they prevented 456-million births. It became clear to me as a 13 year old in 1973 I didn't want any children. The whole concept is the most selfish preventable act in which is easy to solve & far easier than providing healthcare, food, shelter, & transportation. Now that i am 61, i just sit back & look at the rising homeless population & 110,000 young people dying of drug overdoses in this country because they didn't see a future. I see India which was already overpopulated going from 700-million to 1.2-billion & i think of where are their forests? Their animals? Their fish? I think of how barbaric a future is for them because they just keep on popping out babies. Humans have been cutting down forests since day one, but the Earth could handle this when our population was under 1-billion. But how are we possibly going to survive with 50-billion people on this planet? Because i assure you by then we will simply slaughter each other to control population & it wont be something people are going to like. I did not sacrifice anything, i did what was simply logical. I just didn't expect my fellow man was that stupid to just selfishly replicate themself because WE ARE THE PROBLEM.

[@cme98]

@@amywalker7515 you are one of the most intelligent people have have ever met in my life. You hit it on the nail. If you want to lower emissions, we need to stop replicating ourselves. Duh! We are surrounded by idiots. Selfish idiots who think they can have 13 babies AND lower greenhouse gasses. But ya know when Americans front lawn is 23 floors below & is shared with 42 other families, and we are back down to 48 states because Floriduh & Delaware were swallowed up by the Atlantic Ocean, maybe then people will see "we shouldn't be doing circumcism on men at birth, we should be doing vasectomies.

[@Doug-mu2ev]

The point about migration is extremely poignant, well put. Rich people migrate freely we don’t judge them for changing their location based on whatever their needs may be.

[@henrygurney7067]

The thing is, and my opinion isn’t relevant here, rich people significantly benefit wherever they live by spending lots of money there and by employing locals. Although anyone benefits the economy they move into, rich people benefit it far more (also they pay more tax)

[@prophecyrat2965]

@@henrygurney7067 Good Dog.

[@marksittner602]

Hilarious double speak. They don't migrate, they travel to their property.

[@hewitc]

@@henrygurney7067 Rich people also move to (or claim reside in) areas that have low or zero tax rates. So many FL "residents" have a part-time address in the state that does not qualify for residency under the tax laws. They stop paying the taxes due in their legal residency state. The NYS Dept of Finance has a team of people in Fort Lauderdale looking for NYers with a PO box or part-time condo unit who claim not to owe NY taxes, even though they live and work in NY.

[@alexmccarter6051]

exactly, i feel like rich people that gentrified cities like LA and Austin and made them unaffordable for the working class will just go up into these other places do the same thing all over again and leaving the poor people in the sunbelt left to feel the burden of climate change

[@temperanceluv81]

This will happen faster than we can adapt. TBH, thinking that you can just move away from the issue is ignoring huge issues like Where will our food be farmed if huge swaths of the country aren’t habitable anymore.

[@cynthiaayers7696]

Issue issue !! Well bless you :)

[@amywalker7515]

and just look at how no one is doing anything different. They're still pushing massive pickups that get horrible gas mileage. All our appliances use huge amounts of energy so we can have speed. We all are still using wasteful air conditioners, heating our homes too hot and driving way too fast.

[@mandisaw]

Losing the Southwest to drought, the Southeast to the Atlantic/Gulf, and the plants/agriculture in the North (East, West, and Central) to more violent storms and less-predictable growing seasons. Not sure how moving from one State to another is going to fix that.

[@5rings16]

All of our country is habitable!

[@cathyburrows8162]

New appliances are designed to wear out a lot sooner so the companies make profit. What a waste of resources and materials going to land fills.

[@movdqa]

It's already happening in my state where we have people on the local subreddit asking where they can find a place to live. We're generally free from hurricanes, drought, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods. We have plenty of water. The main downside is that it gets really, really cold and most people don't like that.

[@un2ctdawmain267]

Where

[@kaffeine69]

Where?

[@movdqa]

@@kaffeine69 NH

[@checkyoursix5623]

That encourages the riff-raff and the moochers to find a more comfortable location.

[@hewitc]

I have heard that Pittsburgh is now a great place to live. All the Florida lovers will be disappointed when the State gets even more crowded and the existing infrastructure of water, sewers, electricity and roads can't support the migration. And that's not even factoring in the increased cost of climate change problems like shore erosion and hurricane damage. The only answer will be either a state income tax or increased real estate and sales taxes. Infrastructure is extremely expensive. Until now Florida has been "coasting" on these expenditiures or relying on federal funds. Get ready for taxes. and for areas like the Keys, get ready to find that your home is unsellable because it's half or fully underwater. It's already happening.

[@uptone12111]

I wanted to retire in one of five Nor Cal mountain towns. Two completely burned to the ground the last few years and fire raged through a third.

[@deirdre108]

Check out Arcata.

[@rickyayy]

It's not advisable anymore.

[@amywalker7515]

Aren't you glad you didn't?

[@AlexCab_49]

@@deirdre108 Redwood coast has ample rain and cool climate.

[@thomasrudder9639]

That’s because God is cleaning out all the idiots

[@adithyaramachandran7427]

Homes in western michigan are falling into the water due to erosion from rising lake levels. An entire fisherman's village was underwater last year. So not all great lakes locations are created equally. Also, winters have been getting warmer, but they also seem to last longer. We had snow from November to April this year.

[@HominidPetro]

Chicago at major risk of flooding as well

[@robgeach8105]

the point is that the lake effect is a blessing for those cities that will help temper uncomfortable future summers while many of the winter negatives will be far more moderate than historical averages assume. if economical living is a concern then those 2 advantages are a really big deal, but you wouldn't necessarily care about erosion issues with lake front property as most of those people will just budget for extra air conditioning bills and live wherever they want. also the past 10 years of great lakes region cities all show predictable year over year warming trends and if those continue for another 20 years the snow won't be a significant problem. the nightly ice that forms after the snow melts during the day will be a problem, but not from november to april.

[@PK-zb6wh]

having fresh water around is a big deal, instead of the saltwater.

[@RobertMJohnson]

isn't it weird how the weather patterns change? it's called 'Earth'

[@robgeach8105]

@@RobertMJohnson you do a great disservice to all the stupid people who believe you.

[@professorsprout3382]

That eerie orange light over Oakland and S.F. was from the burning of so many homes. 917 homes in the Santa Cruz mountains actually blew the 80 miles to the big city.

[@5rings16]

Thats nothing!

[@eliotb927]

I live in central Massachusetts and I've always been comforted by my location when it comes to natural disasters. There are no earthquakes or fires, an occasional tornado, and a small chance of hurricanes, but no bad ones since the 90s. Also, the climate is much better than anywhere else for most people, with moderately hot summers, and moderately cold winters. If you even move up one state to New Hampshire of Vermont, the summers get cooler, but the winters are dangerously cold. New England also doesnt really face the drought issues as much as the west coast or pretty much anywhere else.

[@thetechnicanwithaheart1682]

According to NASA Western half the United States up to the Texas dry line is drying out. All of these states east of the Texas dryline are getting wetter and risking bigger and more devastating floods. Kentucky was in the news today and it's pretty terrible. It is estimated within 20 years climate change will see hey increase of 700% of increase in major flooding, droughts heat waves

[@ronniecosmos]

How much of a danger are Tornados in your area?

[@punapeter]

yea and it SNOWS half the year, "moderately cold" yeah if you're a polar bear. I prefer 80° all year round. I used to see you snow birds in key West decades ago. I lived on the Cape once. South of Ptown. You can have have the Andrea Gale. I prefer Waterworld.

[@squamish4244]

@@punapeter Under saltwater intrusion renders your state uninhabitable. I'd sell soon if I was you.

[@punapeter]

@@squamish4244 LOL underwater intrusion? LOL you should have stayed in school and studied geography. Underwater intrusion? LOL HA HA HA

[@michelem226]

I moved from Phoenix to Pittsburgh in 2014 for environmental reasons. It's been tough adjusting to how different it is here compared to Phoenix, but I definitely don't feel it's wise to go back.

[@DLCS-2]

Like ?

[@michelem226]

@@DLCS-2 Are you asking how it's different? Lots of snow and rain and unpredictable weather in Pittsburgh that you have to be prepared for and it wears out your car. Local income tax in addition to state and federal. Crazy roadways. So many hills. Crumbling buildings and infrastructure. Just a few things off the top of my head.

[@edmhie1]

I won't trade sunny sky to gray/gloomy sky............depression sets in.

[@michelem226]

@@edmhie1 I dealt with SAD when I moved to Pittsburgh from Phoenix. I don't get it anymore now that I have a regimen of blue and infrared light in the morning.

[@happycook6737]

You made a good decision. The amount and impact of homeless in Phoenix is shocking! And Phoenix is overrun by rough people from California so the gang/drug issues are exploding.

[@user-wm2sc6rz4l]

Yes, let's entirely ignore the problem and those who are causing it and just move.

[@lpappas474]

Yes, and let's pretend we don't use any of the 6,000 products made from oil, someone else is the problem.

[@user-wm2sc6rz4l]

@@lpappas474 stupid to blame the consumers. Try avoiding products that contain oil. It's the fault of corporations and governments. Humanity needs to fight back against them.

[@lpappas474]

So, corporations and governments forced the public to buy these products? As long as the public continues to buy these products corporations will continue to sell them but I guess it is much easier for you to blame others for you actions. What a sad individual you are, can't even take responsibility for your own actions.

[@lpappas474]

@@user-wm2sc6rz4l . What is really stupid is not being able to admit fossil fuel has provided a higher standard of living for the human race

[@user-wm2sc6rz4l]

@@lpappas474 and? Nobody is denying they have provided a higher standard of living. But they are literally destroying the environment. They've run their course.

[@Skiskiski]

The bottom line to me is the availability of fresh water. If you get your water from glaciers in the mountains and they completely melt, the rest is irrelevant.

[@automnejoy5308]

This is the problem we have in the West. No rivers, no lakes, no snow melt in our future. And yet people have been flooding in from other parts of the country for years. Insanity.

[@Diana1000Smiles]

@@automnejoy5308 I don't think the desire to survive is "insanity". I moved "west" in 2002, and can still breathe the air, as long as the Wildfires don't get worse. 🤗

[@automnejoy5308]

@@Diana1000Smiles Why did your survival hinge on moving west? That doesn't make sense. And yes, the wildfires will get worse. So will the drought.

[@punapeter]

I'm glad so many are "poorly educated" or everyone would be moving to my rain forest.

[@5rings16]

If my aunt had balls shed be my uncle!

[@rchaselius3923]

The Twin Cities are also a climate oasis. And it's one of the few major metros in the Great Lakes Region that has never declined in population or quality of life. It's a major economic and tech hub with headquarters of 16 Fortune 500 Corporations, second only to Chicago. Thus it has a ton of well-paid white-collar jobs available. It's slightly smaller than Seattle and slightly larger than San Diego, with almost 4 million residents and no less than 6 professional sports teams and an amazingly good theatre culture. It has a healthy infrastructure and, shockingly, still has affordable housing. While the rapidly warming winters are still something to consider, the region has some of the nicest weather in the country 8 months out of the year.

[@PeggyHiestand-Harri-ju4nc]

Minnesota taxes are outrageous. Many retirees leave the state for that very reason. Seventy six percent of the states budget this session went to social programs (46%) and education (30%). That doesn't leave much left for infrastructure, and they keep raising taxes!

[@Bryan-od7nv]

@@PeggyHiestand-Harri-ju4ncThe taxes are ridiculous. We also get to spend our nice summers choking on smoke from the Canadian wildfires.

[@apl175]

The midwest is very underrated.

[@meleejones]

Storm damage is our norm

[@NEFLAtlantic]

No one lives there 💀

[@cme98]

Thats because there are no trees, no forests, no mountains & its flat & BORING. They also have significantly more tornadoes. Kinda makes you wonder why they have no trees when you think of tornadoes.

[@blackeyedsusan727]

Not really. This video is about moving out of necessity. No way I'd move there unless I absolutely had to..sigh

[@Aztec339]

@@cme98 you are absolutely wrong. I’m in northern OHIO. We are surrounded by beautiful woods, well run parks, lots of forests, rivers. I’m 69. We had one tornado in my whole life. No floods by Lake Erie or earthquakes or fires and definitely no droughts. We have excellent hospitals….Cleveland Cleveland, University Hosp. Many museums, festivals, music. And best restaurants! And many beautiful suburban communities with great schools. It will happen when people will have to find livable, affordable climate safe areas. When the people come, the business will come back. So there! It’s not all about scenery and weather. Sure we have snow. So does half the country! It doesn’t snow everyday in winter. Many nice winter days.

[@etep878]

This video seems to say “ instead of tackling the problem of climate change, let’s find ways to live with it”

[@wyomingbeautiful]

Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive

[@etep878]

@@wyomingbeautiful It will actually be the reality. The climate has already changed and we're pretty much living with it. However, I believe instead of finding permanent solutions, we're most like going to find short term ones.

[@0xjdion]

Video is so wrong. Houses? Cars? Why not small places, biking and buying less? No just run away from the problem.

[@rileyknox5034]

The problem is that even if we stopped 100% of all climate change activities today we will still see massive effects for the next few decades. This is like trying to turn the Titanic, and our current course was set by activities of the 80s and 90s. We should absolutely be working like crazy to stop/mitigate future impacts, but that will do nothing to stop the fallout from the damage that has already been done. Which means taking a sober look as what changes to society are essentially inevitable at this point, and determining best paths forward through those inevitable situations. 🤷‍♂️

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

The reality is that we are locked into a certain amount of climate change regardless of what we do and when - thus, we need to look at adaptation in addition to mitigation.

[@karenann8222]

Central New York is a lovely area. Little problem with severe weather and lots of fresh water. Syracuse has a good infrastructure, housing. Syracuse University and several hospitals are major employers. The winters are becoming milder. I love this area!

[@fuffthebucks7266]

This is a conversation that I've been seeing more and more here in Denver. Due to the fires and drought conditions I plan on moving to the Upper Midwest or Northeast when I can

[@rickyayy]

Northeast climate will become more Mediterranean before you know it!

[@fuffthebucks7266]

@@rickyayy Yeah that actually sounds nice. Still more humid than that though

[@thomasrudder9639]

Good, and take your blue voting ways with you. We need Colorado Red again. It’s raining down freakin blue libtard fools here in Crested Butte.

[@automnejoy5308]

Yeah, I just heard that a lot of people are leaving Colorado. Guess where a lot of them are going, though? California, Texas and Florida. lmao. Morons.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

I'm in metro Denver and fires are due to DEMONCRAPPERS not removing Dead trees....too much fuel...very expensive here but where else to live Pittsburgh with floods or Vegas with floods nope

[@sociolostitch]

Spend the time you would have been planning and packing for your move, by calling and writing to your representatives about actively fighting climate change.

[@rileyknox5034]

That does nothing to stop the fallout caused by the last few decades, which is 100% inevitable. Even if we stopped 100% of everything today, most of the worst parts of climate change will still happen over the next couple of decades since there is about a 30 year lag between activities and effects. We need to be doing both. Both working to mitigate future impacts and planning for inevitable effects from past emissions.

[@RobertMJohnson]

no one is going to fight climate change you twits. the world is hungry for coal, oil, nat gas and gasoline and there's NOTHING that can be done about it.

[@blastoff2022]

I left Phoenix 16 years ago - it started getting hotter - a lot hotter and drier. Fires were becoming the norm - moved east - W Maryland - best decision we made 🙂

[@RobertMJohnson]

and not a single person has died of thirst

[@blastoff2022]

@@RobertMJohnson we needed air conditioning and the dopey greenies thought that was evil (major eye roll)....adios. W. MD is cold and clear and I like it! PHX is like hell in the summer.

[@ralphjohnson3202]

​@@blastoff2022Sounds like your exaggerating there's no dopey green environmentalists hanging around Phoenix they would get ran out of Arizona. Would be believable if you were in California Oregon or Washington state not Arizona.

[@BradThePitts]

I'm still hiding in my garage with a camping stove and a handgun awaiting the Y2K disaster.

[@katiecrowley3417]

Not at all surprised to see Duluth on this list. Many locals already can no longer afford housing here, prices have gotten so out of proportion with local incomes. I'm in the process of moving into a mobile home next door in Wisconsin and renting out my house in Duluth for a little extra income. I can't afford a regular house here anymore.

[@WAL_DC-6B]

At least the "twin ports" have the highest bars/taverns per capita in the U.S.

[@sashamoore9691]

Broke ass. Ur mobile home will probably topple over in a tornado or extreme weather event 😂😂

[@DoriterEater]

I am confused how decarbonizing when climate change has been in process for quite some time, is going to cause Earth to have mercy on these communities? Developing infrastructure to be resilient against the inevitable is one thing, but I'm just ????

[@kevinconnaghan1113]

I don't believe there are any safe cities anywhere. Certainly the biggest problem is going to be agricultural production with uncertain climactic patterns. Once there isn't enough food for all of us no where will be safe, least of all cities.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

And crime

[@andrewgonzales1359]

This should really say: “Carbon sequestration is a chemically inefficient process. Even when people knew that fossil fuels would be ecologically damaging, they decided to use them anyway. Solar is the most effective option.”.

[@b.r.207]

That's a weird way to spell nuclear (jkjk, but not really.)

[@billw8476]

solar is not the answer on a large scale....clean burning natural gas is.

[@darceylopez6065]

This was posted one year ago. After the crazy weather in summer, 2023, fires in Canada pushing smoke into the northern US and the crazy rain and hurricanes that are coming to the east coast in fall of 2023, I think we can all assume that no place is really safe. I live in one of the best places for weather, Boulder, CO and our nearby towns of Louisville and Superior nearly burned to the ground. We were so lucky, the emergency response and evacuation were incredible!!! Plus a little snow and cold temperatures after the event really helped. No place is safe from climate change!

[@bradyf585]

Thank you for doing this report. It is important for us to be thinking about this.

[@dereknewbury163]

This is totally laughable. Talk about re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic

[@alexvagias5295]

That's a good one! I needed a good laugh.

[@maestoso47]

No place is safe. Even areas they’ve shown in the Midwest have been getting extremities in weather patterns.

[@MrBlueplanetdrive2]

Yelp tornado's and microbursts are becoming more common

[@tamarastone141]

I'm in Chicago and our weather is soo extreme!! It's starting to resemble the South as far as weather goes. Summer is starting earlier and lasting longer. I also noticed It's starting to become more humid...

[@paxundpeace9970]

The difference is about getting once or twice hit by a weather extreme or 10 times a year. So that they have you on emergency supplies 10 times a years.

[@poolkennedy7611]

Very turn

[@RobertMJohnson]

that must be why the world's population keeps expanding

[@un2ctdawmain267]

BEFORE YOU MOVE: I would also recommend that you review for a month the US daily report on areas with grid issues to learn which states have repeated grid issues. ALSO, review fault lines and earthquake reports as it has been speculated the Mississippi faultline will one day separate the W from the E. NOTE: cities with MILITARY BASES will be targeted if the US is ever attacked by its enemies, as well as the coastlines.

[@coconut6839]

Thanks for the tips. Note also: Living near a military base could mean safety from foreign enemies but it doesn't mean safety from domestic "enemies". For example, military bases are known to cause water contamination or "PFAS/forever chemicals" in the surrounding areas that they are located in which are carcinogenic. Weigh the pros and cons!

[@un2ctdawmain267]

@@coconut6839 oooh. Noted!

[@un2ctdawmain267]

@Global Warming true.

[@un2ctdawmain267]

@quanchi Oh, that makes sense... but, enemy nations could strategically plan to target main US military bases. Perhaps, one day, sly enemy cells will be working within US military bases... waiting for a signal when their team decide to launch a major attack on soil. There already have been 400k+ illegal aliens that crossed into the southern border unapprehended because they are rushing in by groves where there are minimal border patrols. There were 50 terrorists stopped in 2022, the most noted compared to previous years.

[@craigbucci7950]

With the exception of North Carolina. All the other locations on the list are where people are leaving.

[@rajawatlajweersingh6343]

If you can't deal with a situation, just escape facing it all together! What's wrong with the society? Climate change is the greatest threat to humanity! Something needs to be done, instead of avoiding it!

[@scottparr5606]

This video seems to completely ignore the fact that cities ARE the problem.

[@kendraabeene1173]

people think things won't affect them but it is global. they maybe able to live a few years longer by moving but they won't escape what is coming.

[@laurie7689]

Isn't that why our Southern Border is being inundated with immigrants? Instead of facing their own problems and fixing them, they flee.

[@michaelahurt]

Exactly, stay in your house and drown or burn to death. People always looking for the easy way out.

[@automnejoy5308]

It's too late to deal with it. That's the point. We can start tomorrow to do everything possible to mitigate it (we won't even do that, though), but people are still going to need to escape. The damage is done.

[@jimslancio]

Other things that could be mentioned are infrastructure and cultural amenities. Two years ago I chose to relocate to Cleveland, and have felt good about the choice ever since.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

There is no culture there in Cleveland

[@ivanteevee9480]

@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN there entire economy was lebron james

[@jimglenn6972]

I agree that NE Ohio is a great place. Temperate climate with a few hot days in the summer, rock, jazz and classical music, affordable housing, farmlands, education and health care are all fantastic.

[@ralphjohnson3202]

Ain't nobody moving to no raggedy ass Cleveland Ohio.

[@evildrizzt1]

I was born and raised in St. Louis, Missouri. After a lifetime of Tornadoes, blizzards, hail storms and floods, I decided to buy a house in phoenix AZ in 2019. It gets hot (that’s all it does here). Since 2019 my property value has doubled. Only reason I don’t sell is because I don’t know where I would go.

[@IHateMyAccountName]

Phoenix is gonna be borderline uninhabitable in the next 20-30 years with the heat. Sell when it's high.

[@sashasavisha146]

The realtors in Phoenix are like sharks. They circle your house with flyers, phone calls and texts for any sign of blood or desire to sell. Whether you express interest in selling or not.

[@tammyforbes2101]

When I was a kid they built our road up to make it so it didn’t flood and I was on that road the other day and it was having to be raised again even more cause it now floods over where it was built up before. Goes to show how much worse flooding has got in Ky in the past 40 years!

[@lpappas474]

Sounds like they built a road on unstable ground.

[@ClubMayview]

Earth settles naturally

[@tammyforbes2101]

@@lpappas474 it’s in the hills of Appalachia red clay and rocks

[@jamesn7156]

Just curious why they didn’t put Chicago on their list, but every city around it. I would think Chicago’s climate is pretty close to Detroit and Milwaukee.

[@NancySmyth]

Probably lack of affordable housing

[@carsonmyers2258]

@@NancySmyth it’s actually really affordable compared to income here just the taxes are a little high

[@NancySmyth]

@@carsonmyers2258 yes, for sure, and yet not compared to the other Great Lakes cities

[@flyingbanana4179]

@@NancySmyth Yeah, Milwaukee is big on affordable housing. Every housing project in city limits right now has some affordable housing in it.

[@BenMeier814]

Honestly very surprised St. Louis didn’t make this list. It’s extremely moderate in climate, and is already built to support way more population than it has, due to its decline over the last 50 years. If we can get rid of the entire city being a singular county, I think St. Louis could see a massive boom in the next 10-20 years

[@amywalker7515]

St. Louis has a high crime rate, doesn't it?

[@jacklong7048]

Because its home to Hawley, can I say more. Bad politics!!!!

[@stanstanlison5791]

Go and live there, then you’ll find out why it wasn’t.

[@BenMeier814]

@@stanstanlison5791 I do live here…

[@stanstanlison5791]

@@BenMeier814 then I am now more confused about your initial comment. The climate there is not moderate. Its either super hot with humidity OR super cold. That polar vortex makes it real awful. Spring & Fall only last about a week. The infrastructure is poorly managed and any repairs take forever (even if it’s simple). The separation of county and city brings more problems than opportunities. Meat, alcohol, fresh produce seems to cost more. And the quality of what you do find stinks. The two biggest grocery stores there are trash (Shmuck’s and Dirtbergs). And that quality/$ goes well beyond just grocery stores. There are so many businesses that would fail if they went elsewhere. I did 5 years there and thats all I could do. I remember asking the same question when I got there… “why isn’t STL in a better position?” After living there a while, I saw so many reasons why.

[@MattGrossChannel]

I'd rethink Los Angeles where I live. Generally, near downtown, we don't get hit by extreme rain, hurricanes, fire risk. That's outside the city. And we are moving to a closed cycle water system where we will clean and reuse water. Again, our city could be a haven. However, the further away from downtown (near Long Beach, Santa Monica, Malibu, etc.) this might not be the case.

[@808N]

its finally the midwest's time to shine!

[@Jc-ms5vv]

Until wet bulb temperatures arrive

[@808N]

@@Jc-ms5vv I'm not sure what you're implying. Thats not a midwest problem, thats an everywhere problem - and the majority of the midwest will not become arid desert, unlike the southwest. Def damage control but if you own land here, I believe you'll be inherently more wealthy than pre-wet bulb temps lol I dont think anyone will be immediately dying of heatstroke or getting radiation burns within the next 200 years lol

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@808N yeah I'm sure people in Washington/ Oregon/ B.C. thought the same thing until last summer

[@808N]

@@Jc-ms5vv very specific, got a source for a story? must've missed that type of heat wave news. (not sarcasm, i really wanna know)

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@808N can't post links so you're going to have to Google it Heat Wave Killed An Estimated 1 Billion Sea Creatures, And Scientists Fear Even Worse The extreme heat that scorched B.C. this past summer not only broke records and contributed to a historic wildfire season, it also led to the deaths of at least 595 people, according to BC Coroners Service.

[@ph11p3540]

Single family homes are not the answer for booming populations, nor are poorly designed condos and apartments. Make sure a neighborhood has a well thought out mixed used zoning and non cookie cutter multifamily complexes that emphasize privacy

[@deirdre108]

Nice to hear that Detroit will have a renaissance with all the climate immigrants moving there.

[@chanellekirch]

This was put together very well. Thank you all for sharing this knowledge etc.

[@semipenguin]

I moved to Minnesota a few years ago. Not just because of my job, but also to escape the heat of the South and Southwest. To my surprise, Minnesota gets just as hot as Missouri, Texas, and Tennessee. All places I lived after I left Southern California in 2003. Last year we had bad air quality from wildfires in Canada. A drought that left the ground dry and cracked. And in November 2016, high temperatures in the 70s°F. This Spring has been more like what I expected. With the exception of one day in the mid 90s°F, it’s been mild.

[@paulburley7993]

We're always amused at (usually Americans and Europeans) that come to populated central Canada and aren't prepared for just how hot and humid it becomes here. AC is essential or you're going to suffer.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Yup humidity and floods and Boredom and crime

[@Waitukubuli]

I like Minnesotans but not mosquitoes. 🦟

[@vivekra]

It seems pine monoculture forests create a fire risk but nobody seems to talk about that.

[@DoriterEater]

Yeah they're susceptible to disease and become weaker every year against drought, carpeting the ground around them in dense layers of kindling. I am terrified of the special interests in logging continuing to take precedence over safety. We in Oregon are at risk of losing drinking water in many communities, landslides on major roads, and of course forest fires tearing through entire communities every summer. I wish we would talk about it.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

And not clearing dead trees...but Liberals blame it on environment

[@HominidPetro]

Lol LA to Duluth, yall it is winter from October to May up here, we are still getting nights in temps at low 40s

[@ramon2008]

Haha yeah not down

[@shughes57]

That one woman said that the list doesn't include major cities and then the video proceeds to list just about every urban area that surrounds Chicago... without mentioning Chicago.

[@684avatar]

I live in Vegas and it’s weird people move here a lot from Chicago because of the cost of living being less here but everything is going up now here so im prob gonna end up leaving as well.

[@laurie7689]

That is what they mean about being pushed out. That always happens when outsiders enter an area.

[@Lzrdman91]

Funny how I’m moving to Chicago soon myself from Phoenix.

[@lil_lyrix]

I think the Detroit-Toledo-Ann Arbor area has a lot of potential, 3 Low risk cities all pretty close together.

[@supadave422]

Michigan in general will be safe

[@michiganman8383]

Grand Rapids area also,specially with the Lake Michigan Beaches near by.

[@zyxnix]

I wouldn't live in Toledo if you paid me.

[@lil_lyrix]

@@zyxnix Me neither, but in general people that aren’t from the Midwest probably have a better opinion of Toledo than Detroit.

[@zm4904]

They probably don’t know that Toledo exists.

[@andreawallenberger2668]

July 2023: Did they just say Burlington, Vermont? Burlington and the entire state of VT just endured catastrophic flooding.

[@lorainec1435]

Not sure why this doesn’t mention Chicago, it’s the 3rd largest city!

[@FinancialShinanigan]

According to rich people, Mars.

[@phoneluke1]

CNBC makes some decent videos but this is not one of them. It’s mostly a video about which places are pursuing democratic policies they like instead of which areas are actually resilient. A city cutting its carbon emission will have zero impact on whether the ocean rises or floods increase, it’s too small of a drop in the bucket.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

And housing affordability doesn't care about tornadoes or floods etc...just woke BS

[@Golfing422]

I live 2.5 miles from the Detroit river. There’s plenty of water here and housing is very affordable.

[@Camellia303]

It’s good to see Detroit in the list. What about Chicago? How come Chicago is always missed or underestimated like it’s not the the third biggest city?

[@andrewevans5750]

Chicago has had issues with the coastline since its founding. the whole lakefront nearly went underwater at times. It took taxing the rich to create that nice road you see in front of downtown to stop the impact. The city's name is a butchered form of "onion" in the region's native language. A swamp politically and geographically. For now though, it is the cheapest large city in the US. Even with taxes COL is 106% of the national average. Having a honeymoon there just proved it. Colorado is super expensive. A lot of price gouging.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Because it sucks ...floods crime high living costs

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

@@andrewevans5750 yup especially rent but weather wise way better than midwest or the southeast

[@andrewevans5750]

@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN chicago, 106% of the national average cost of living, is cheaper than denver at 140% of the national average and CO springs at 112% of national average taxes included. The springs hit 112% last spring and from what I can tell is nearing the 115-116% range. some are claiming it is nearer 120% now but I doubt it. statistics. you are like dealing with people who don't realize that Pueblo is in the top 1-2% of crime nationally and the 6th most dangerous metro with over 100k people. MSA-wise. Denver-Aurora-Lakewood is more crime ridden than St Louis. That was a hard pill to swallow. Parts of Chicago like the Northside are about as expensive the Broadway area with less crime. You cannot just jump to conclusions. when was the last time you paid $900 in rent and $80 for a solid basket of groceries with decent public transport? that is what my Chicago relatives consider average. here in the springs $1000 for crime infested 80917 if you have been a tenant for 10 years. Otherwise, $1500. Oh and the apartment is 400 sq ft. Groceries, $100 a week easy unless you have someone to buy larger portions with. Price gouging is a thing here. Almost bought my grandparents house for $180k in 2019 in West St Louis [Tesson Ferry]. Same salary 96% cost of living and low area crime. Take that in man. It hurts, bad. Also, thinking of crime, have you been to east colfax near anshutz recently? reminds me of pre-gentrification south chicago.

[@1PorscheCaymanS]

I suspect anywhere I move, I will be equally affected...or not affected, by climate change. Unfortunately this is also true of inflation but the "affected" part is much more guaranteed.

[@strongmonk5094]

More likely not affected. Climate changes all the time.

[@SirDishs]

I'm very greatful to have an affordable place to live. The house prices in my area are 100k-200k for a nice houses. That said I live in Michigan and people still have a stigma about it being cold here it was 100F out this june already and they winters have been a joke nothing like 20 years ago when i was a kid. they have been so mild with not much snowfall.

[@dreamzofhorses]

I live in a wildfire zone and it’s nerve wracking. I’ve been here 6 years and doubt I’ll still be here in a year. So sad but the high temps and stress from constant fires is too stressful on me as I get older. But living in snow country is not for me either. It poses it’s own risk. I think I’ll end up mobile.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

Maya Mai from PBS Terra did this topic. They said the safe places are between the latitudes of Chicago and Atlanta.

[@TheEngineer404]

I'm sorry Orlando is not a good choice due to the hurricane criteria and increasing average temperatures.

[@thegreataynrand7210]

It's not a problem

[@Trtevoorryu]

It's safer than Miami or any other coastal city

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

@@thegreataynrand7210 yes it is

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

@@Trtevoorryu not by much Denver way safer no gators no high humidity or hurricanes

[@MrGlendale111]

When you see some of the people in Florida. It's obvious they are not the brightest bulb in the lamp. I doubt many of them live in the reality of much of anything. Especially the environment of this day and age. It's sad but it's true. They ignore the seriousness of the issues regarding climate change.

[@ZachShock13]

I don’t know if haven and Ohio can legally be used in the same sentence.

[@808N]

idk man... I get it...but ppl hate on this state because of...boredom? weather by the lakes is kinda overcasty/depressing, I guess? but its the rollercoaster capital of the world!!! lol this place is a top 5 state overall. LCOL, nature, abundance of fresh water/agricultural hub, etc. Once the water rises, food becomes scarce, & big tech companies run thru Texas; they'll move to the Great Lakes region. All speculation, of course...but I think everyone will be fighting over the land around the lakes $$$ also, I have no idea why I'm replying to a comment on yt. shoutout Ohio, she's been good to me.

[@IMAPOTATOZ]

Ohio can be a haven to some if its what you desire in life. Maybe someone doesnt want to live in a big city and would rather live rual, or far away from others, thats possible in Ohio. Sure its not a desirable place since its grey 9 months out of the year, but the only thing you need to worry about is tornadoes. No wildfires, no massive flooding from the sea, no earthquakes, and most of all, you get the 4 seasons.

[@zyxnix]

😁😁😁😁😁

[@birdsintheburbs7414]

@@808N I live a few feet away from lake Erie. I can see the lake from my front door. Beautiful to watch sunsets on the lake!

[@tima4929]

@@IMAPOTATOZ Ohio has Three major cities. Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnatti. It is not all rural. You really don't know what you are talking about.

[@drticktock4011]

Can't just elevate homes. Otherwise, you'll need a boat to get to the grocery store and your friend's house. Gives a whole new meaning to Venice, FL.

[@tmmartinesq.6216]

WATER 🌎

[@robingoldman5944]

Thank you so much for discussing this subject. I am saving and trying to find a new location to move my tiny house to for all the reasons you mentioned! Thank you!

[@joshuabierle1182]

Hm. Duluth, MN (one of the cities listed) should not be on the list. It's on the great lakes, sure, which is a great spot. But it's a very congested place, little room to expand, and home prices are among the most expensive in the state.

[@MrKongatthegates]

It may not be to your liking, but chicago was once the same size as duluth

[@greenmachine5600]

So? It's still a good place long term

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

@@MrKongatthegates but not as boring

[@djayjp]

Please do this again, but subtract housing costs and highly speculative municipal decarbonisation plans.

[@strongmonk5094]

You can't ask the government to get involved and not have them tax you through the roof! We don't live in fairy land.

[@lewiscarrol3586]

Co-chair of the U.N.’s International Panel on Climate Change, Dr. Ottmar Edenhofer, spilled the beans in 2010: “One must free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. [What we’re doing] has almost nothing to do with the climate. We must state clearly that we use climate policy to redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.”

[@rh88841]

Duluth MN or anywhere on the Great Lakes will be the best places to live

[@sashamoore9691]

Very tru . Great Lakes area will be the best move

[@dvtt]

Orlando???? It fails literally all the criteria you set forward. Chicago, Gary, St. Louis, Memphis, etc. All seem way more reasonable

[@mariothedude1]

Instead of suggesting where people can move to "escape" climate change, how about we talk about what we can do to tackle climate change? This video will only benefit those who are more wealthy and have more assets and resources and take advantage of those less fortunate in these areas. This can create a new form of gentrification IMO

[@royroy8697]

Theres nothing YOU can do at this point. Dont you get it. We are at a point that required statewide/ national level changes. You buying smart light bulbs wont put a dent in whats coming. 2100 is predicted to be the start of a real downfall and thats 80 years away- what can you possibly do? The answer is Nothing. Hence why this video is saying Dont be stupid- make plans to move / live in a climate safe area long term.

[@DerrickCartercosmostravels]

im poor and i just moved up north

[@Jc-ms5vv]

Nothing we can do to stop abrupt irreversible climate change

[@alexvagias5295]

Encourage people to have smaller families. This planet cannot sustain 7 billion people. Not even half that. We are destroying it. Some scientists say that it is, already, too late as global warming began in 1984. I didn't believe that when I first read it, but, now, it seems plausible.

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@alexvagias5295 global warming was probably irreversible by 1984, the planet started warming long before that. Nothing will stop the warming now other then getting back down close to pre industrial levels. Which isn't possible in the short time we have before we see a blue ocean event in the Arctic

[@Calikid331]

I'm glad suburban sprawl has entered the public discussion more and more. It's totally unsustainable and a pretty wasteful use of land, we're expanding out sprawling suburbs into areas that probably shouldn't be inhabited. Mixed use areas with townhouses/apartments and retail all within walking distance of each other. We shouldn't need a vehicle to do day-to-day things.

[@OldJackWolf]

I wouldn't pick anything south of the Mason Dixon line, nor close to any nuclear power plants. And we found a big selection of great but affordable homes we could buy in Erie, PA. And after 5 summers here, we love it. Winters are a lot milder than we expected too with tons of things to do within 10 minutes. Wine country is lovely too. And we've been better preparing the house we purchased with Hardiboard, a home generator, etc. And don't forget to check the soil survey before your final selection - the soil shows the past history of the area, whether its landslides, floods, etc, and if it happened before, it will happen again and probably in a bigger way.

[@enigmasshadow9435]

We need to adopt policies and new technologies.

[@uniquenewyork3325]

If everyone moving for these reasons invested in solutions instead I can't even imagine the impact

[@mihoda]

Cincinnati and most of the rust belt is filled with particulate pollution from midwestern coal (though it has been getting better). The average particulate level is *higher* than CA even with the wildfires included. Ohio cities have some of the highest asthma and lung disease rates in the country.

[@lindamatus4429]

Yeah, def don’t go there

[@automnejoy5308]

Also, isn't the midwest at huge risk from flooding in general? Isn't that going to become an even bigger problem? And what about New Madrid? The area they're suggesting people move to is exactly the area that will be most impacted when that megaquake happens. Also, this area is prone to tornadoes (in fact, tornado alley has shifted east from its classic position and moved closer to the cities in this video in recent years), and tornadoes are predicted to become more frequent and intense with climate change. So honestly I do not understand this video at all.

[@LauraJdogmom]

@@automnejoy5308 Flooding risk depends on where you are in the Midwest. I live in Cincinnati. You have to be right down on the river to be at significant risk of serious flooding. Many, many years ago it was worse, but flood mitigation efforts such as dikes and dams ameliorate the worst of it. Cincinnati proper is a city of hills, so much of it is not at significant risk of flooding, other than some swamped streets in heavy rains when the drainage system is temporarily overwhelmed. My house has a flood factor of zero. However, there are places nearby that are at risk of flooding, such as New Richmond, which is right on the banks of the Ohio and which is fairly flat. River cities that are on floodplains have been at risk for a while. Certainly some will become uninhabitable. Sometimes the towns can be relocated. The New Madrid seismic zone stretches from the very southern tip of Illinois, runs along the border between Missouri and Kentucky, and down along the border between Arkansas and Tennessee. The area north of that, along the Great Lakes, is unlikely to be strongly affected in the event of a large quake Tornadoes can certainly occur, but even with a large twister the effects tend to be localized, and they don't stay put. I've had tornado sirens go off in my county, while the sky over my neighborhood was a lovely blue. In contrast, hurricanes, wildfires, and floods can affect very large areas. No place will ever be 100% free from natural disasters, but some are more likely to affect lots of people than others. I would not want to see an increase in ice storms, though.

[@automnejoy5308]

@@LauraJdogmom Thank you for your intelligent, well-written reply.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Yup and probably gets flooding and tornadoes and is BORING

[@georgev5766]

Loved in south Florida for little over a decade. I lived the last 4 years there 1 block away from A1A (ocean blvd) right on the beach. The authorities had to re-sand the beach like 4 times in the last 3 years. Red tide was horrible; dolphins and fish would constantly wash ashore. It was bad. Hurricanes we’re getting pretty frequent and “missing” us by 100 miles. Not a place you wanna be.

[@RobertMJohnson]

that must be why the map of florida is the same as it was when Ponce de Leon showed up 500 years ago

[@DorianPaige00]

@@RobertMJohnson You tell 'em. Florida is more robust when most people think. The one place that is getting hit hard is California but it's not as much due to climate change as folks tried to tame and live in a desert. If you have moderate rainfall, you can grow trees but then when the trend NATURALLY swings the other way, you get wildfires and then mudslides. From the 50's-80's, southern California received more rain that it had in prior decades. Furthermore, the climate has been a bit warmer especially in certain places in distinct times. For instance, England used to compete with France in making wine. Today England is too cold and rainy for that.

[@onlyoneamong300]

That's one of several reasons why I left Florida in 1996! Back then there were already signs of flooding in Miami and the constant threat of hurricanes, crazy traffic, horrible drivers, and the heat and humidity became totally unbearable! Amazingly, I managed to convince my parents, siblings, and nephews to move to the Great Lakes area! It's not perfect, but at least people are polite, know how to drive, houses are cheaper, and there are seasons! Four beautiful seasons, for God sakes! Not just heat, humidity, and bitchy people everywhere! So, cold weather's not for everyone but in my case, I never looked back!

[@joedavenport2477]

Orlando affordable? Good one. Rents, home prices, insurance and property taxes are soaring out of control all over Florida. And with our idiot governor going to war with Disney it's not looking good for our state. Considering a move to Pittsburgh.

[@thegreataynrand7210]

Lol, Desantis is a great leader who makes you lefties heads roll. And enjoy the crime and murder in Pitts lol.

[@sentientflower7891]

Orlando is just horrible but the national forest and springs nearby are beautiful.

[@chocobeast]

8 minutes into the video and no one’s mentioned mixed-use walkable cities nor expanding public transit nor installing protected bike lanes to creat alternative modes of transportation

[@fuchsia02]

It would be helpful

[@theconcealedmistress]

Texas is going dry, floods, tornadoes, this confirms my desire to move to Greenville SC. Also the homes have skyrocketed in Texas.

[@ronkirk5099]

I'm retired so the world is my oyster when it comes to living where climate change will have a minimum impact to my lifestyle (I live as low carbon as possible). I may just become a climate migrant and sail up and down the east coast from the Caribbean to Canadian Maritimes depending on the season. Off grid at anchor with no space heating or cooling required. Back in the day, I lived this life for 7 years and I'm ready to live out the rest of my life the same way again.

[@hollywoodrdscholar]

You have mentioned Toledo,Ohio in the piece. Is Cleveland ok?

[@tima4929]

Yes it is a great city to live.

[@jessicateresi6693]

How is Charleston on the list ? They don’t call it lowcountry for nothing

[@Sunnyso24]

This worries me about mass migration pricing me out of my home state. We’ve seen it happen to so many states. I don’t want to be next :(

[@grandmasfavorites]

In 2005 I moved from S CA to NE OH because of home prices. Glad I did because I love it here. This story is icing on the cake.

[@TheWorldofSam]

How does low housing cost relate to making the city safe from climate change? 🙄🙄

[@sentientflower7891]

You can live in a tent. Enjoy.

[@klabeck1097]

Folks with good financial resources can move. People without those resources need to stay in potentially (likely) dangerous areas. Having housing that is affordable for everyone is better than lives & billions in homes & infrastructure lost to natural disasters.

[@kzisnbkosplay3346]

If we don't question those wealthy people who move to a summer home, we should. They are raising home prices. Those second homes are taking housing from people who need it. There is enough housing in the country now for everyone, if it were fairly distributed.

[@alexvagias5295]

Fairly distributed?? Huh? Wealthy people aren't interested in being fair. How do you think they got wealthy?

[@xlr8nguy]

I moved from Louisiana to Kansas. Its a little colder in winter, but the summers seem to be more bearable. The heat in Louisiana was oppressive to the point that just doing a little yard work soaked me in sweat. Its hard to breathe when its 103 degrees with 98% humidity. The heat index is about 115 at that point. It was even hot and sticky at night.

[@andrewreiss2811]

what do you think of Kimberly city missouri?

[@xlr8nguy]

@@andrewreiss2811 Never been there.

[@andrewreiss2811]

@@xlr8nguy I want 3 things under 8 inches of snow a year, but not too much oppressive summer humidity and zero hurricanes.

[@tatianagontareva8509]

Thanks for the video! Something to think about... I recommend everyone to watch the international online broadcast "We are People. We want to live" on 07.05.2022 at 15.00 GMT

[@Odm1776]

I’m from Ohio and the amount of people moving to Cleveland (where I’m from) and Cincinnati (where I go to school) especially from the west coast is crazy lol

[@PoringPoring951]

Texas is seeing the same thing. House market up by nearly 25-40%. 400k in 2018 is not 650k in 2021. Crazy.

[@Odm1776]

@@PoringPoring951 because of the hills in Cincinnati’s housing market is expensive compared to the rest of Ohio

[@kickazz999]

Cleveland is vibrant city

[@r.pres.4121]

Cleveland is a dying decaying dump. You couldn’t pay me to live in Cleveland.

[@ralphjohnson3202]

​@@kickazz999Probably 60 years ago not now.

[@mr.munger]

So did they not want to list every larger city because it would become cumbersome or are similar cities right nearby somehow less "safe". Based on the cities they listed it seems like Columbus, Dayton, Cleveland, Akron, Louisville, Lexington, Charleston WV, Grand Rapids, Lansing, Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Charlotte, and Nashville would all be climate safe havens as well.

[@burgerking3344]

Same thing for chicago,Minneapolis, Toronto and almost every Midwest city

[@meredithstewart4040]

The cities they mentioned were actively planning for population influx.

[@Aztec339]

And the worst weather event up north is bad snowstorm. Never in my 69 yrs has anyones house been totally destroyed by snow….. not like fires floods tornadoes hurricanes earthquakes droughts. I missed less than five total days from work cuz I had to wait for a snow plow to get down my street. It’s so nice having four seasons, each with their beauty and color.

[@maebliss344]

Nashville is no longer affordable. I lived there almost 20 years (Tn native) but left 2 years ago to buy my home where they were not charging 400k for a POS/hiked the property tax almost 40%

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Nope most of those with tornados flood and some with hurricanes...not to mention death by boredom

[@hbhb7900]

I’m a climate destination, and I live in Wisconsin. 😂 No ocean rise, yet plenty of fresh water. Lots of people who know how to hunt, fish and farm. Lots of wonderful blue collar workers. Lol

[@ginadepaolo1236]

Interesting how indiana was left out while all but one surrounding state were included. The information here isn't exactly on target. Any state in the northern part of the country will be beneficial to people during climate change.