Which X-Men Universe Will Fight the 616 MCU?

[@radix4801]

2:59 Slight difference of opinion here. Loki Season 2 ending said that Kang was "taken care of" in a "616-adjacent" realm, referring to Quantumania and the Quantum Realm. It could be that every universe has their own version of all these different surreal realms adjacent to them.,

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

Influencers can’t talk about Kang anymore 😂😂

[@comicsauniversalalliance8669]

@@virtualrealityfitness283 That makes no sense, and do not agree with that. Also, NR isn't paid directly by Marve/Disney so why couldn't they?

[@proturbocharge338]

I’m pretty sure they established the quantum real was the only one and all of the separate universes crash into it if the can get small enough. Kinda like how there’s only one TVA and one void. I think that was established in quantumania

[@will3346]

I agree I think the realms are wrapped around the timeline like a rope and each timeline has their own realms

[@Firelance2361]

Would explain how in What If…? Episode 5, Janet van Dyne got infected by a Quantum Virus, yet in the Sacred Timeline, no such Virus happened.

[@dihboas]

Making the x-men part of this 60’s retro-futuristic reality is amazing because that way you can maintain Magneto’s backstory for example, without having to adapt it to modern times

[@krisiswallace5389]

Brilliant point!!! Can't believe I didn't think of that until now!

[@wheattoast1971]

Exactly!

[@TitularHeroine]

That's genius!!

[@zachkapparos2373]

Holy shit that’s awesome I love that makes comic accurate costumes less cheesey for casual audiences too

[@reavestone308]

if they modernize magneto im done with the MCU

[@Hendrix.Robinson]

I wouldn’t be mad at the more comic accurate version starting with the FF4 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@noelstafford7266]

00:53 I pause here to say that i hope Secret Wars isn't just two main realities battling it out, but rather have bits of all the realities, like the battle planet as Zeck drew it. Why have two, when we can run through all of them??

[@noelstafford7266]

Okay, I've finished and I see what you're saying and I approve. Interesting...

[@remylebeau8612]

Timelines are like lines on a paper, dimensions are the spaces between.

[@wintyrqueen]

Weave it together, trim the stuff that doesn’t work, make everything better

[@elmerdeleeuw1569]

This is the most pragmatic, most realistic, way of handling this fustercluck.....

[@mightheal]

I think it will be a mix of different universes that settle on a yet to be named refuge universe that will end up being the rival universe.

[@arminarlert6871]

Scarlet Witch vs The Phoenix would be a good battle. Imagine the hype and the fandom war on twitter hahaha.

[@hunterofendermen367]

Chaos Magic wins, sorry, not sorry, chaos magic would win lol

[@MikeNoMichael]

@@hunterofendermen367the phoenix in the white hot room is a celestial….keep your magic for dr’s, and iron people with stones.

[@spamspamspam3spamsnow4]

@@hunterofendermen367debatable

[@entertainmentmadnessofficial]

“To me, my X-men”

[@ThatOtherMikeyGuy]

My guess is that the retro-futuristic FF Earth gets eaten by Galactus, throwing Reed, Sue, Johnny & Ben (and maybe their Doom?) into the 616…then later, the X-Men universe where Photon met Beast will get smooshed into the main Marvel continuity immediately after the events of Secret Wars

[@TioJones-lm1zi]

Beast and Monica are in the 10005 universe DeadpoolWolveriine

[@Likedoritos]

Every theory of yours are amazing

[@grecia_gs]

God Loki is in the "End of time" the remaining citadel made his throne at the end of the season

[@Hard2Guard1702]

I absolutely love this freaking channel 😂 didn’t even read the title fully before clicking

[@Nil-ey4rg]

everyone should just join im too attached to 616

[@FS-Flame]

They will eventually

[@Davinjy]

No

[@chrisdiaz8279]

I like earth 199999 too. But I'm starting to like the Xmen

[@Itsdamere]

@ 9:00 mark that theory is perfect

[@DneilB007]

The more that the MCU invests into this Multiverse storyline, the more that I want DC to reboot *their* cinematic universe with Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew (TM).

[@TotalDisclosure]

Keep it simple, is my opinion. The multiverse will eventually start confusing folks. And it’s marvels job, to do this, without having to relay on people knowing each and every film, back and fourth.

[@BetaRanger28]

Thats why they are ending the multiverse saga by crashing it together and creating Battle world, good riddance i say 😅

[@spamspamspam3spamsnow4]

@@BetaRanger28what’s after this saga? idk if they announced it yet but i’m curious how they’re gonna start it

[@nicholasfactor]

Maybe the retro-future universe has already gone through their own secret wars

[@bizzybrown8372]

The montage at the beginning of Deadpool and Wolverine are alternate timelines of the Fox tree not alternate universes . It’s important we all understand the difference. America Chavez can hop trees. Other characters can hop branches .

[@CoLdBl0oD93]

Yup, somebody gets it. Marvel needs to do a better job explaining this to make it clear

[@bizzybrown8372]

@@CoLdBl0oD93 I’m guessing the Fantastic Four film will give us all a recap. Both He Who Remains and Kang told us and demonstrated this early on in the saga . It’s incredible how so many are still either lost or can’t grasp the concept .

[@Underthehood1]

Deadpool visited earth-616 though when he tries to join the avengers. So that’s not true. The device he got from cable clearly established he could travel to other universes as well as timelines.

[@bizzybrown8372]

@@Underthehood1 thanks for correcting me . I meant when he was searching for Wolverine variants not the time traveling he was doing at the end of Deadpool 2

[@bizzybrown8372]

@@Underthehood1 Thanks for correcting me . I was referring to Deadpool searching for Wolverine variants / I misspoke .

[@cosmicmaster1006]

yea call me crazy but id rather not throw away everything established over the last 10+ years just so we can have a retro 60s world. Here's an idea, you know we can easily bring those guys over to 616 right.

[@daviecampbell8644]

Its likely going to be the same situation as the original Ultimates universe

[@bobbysworld281995]

The reality of that "How will the MCU bring other characters over" is hitting people HARD!

[@robertmadeira9897]

I know Fr

[@liamcollins4569]

It’s a reboot the same way comics reboot with a universe ending event and starting a newer better version afterwards

[@PaulJeremyphent]

616 is busted for most people who read comics, I’ve never read comics, but if it makes them happy, I’m happy to watch more movies. Idc if it’s comic accurate or not either way 😂

[@CalicoEvrywerigo]

Beast says that Monica being from a different universe is impossible, it isnt a lie because the bangles of Kamala Kahn are the elegant piece of art capable of teleporting someone through time and space as Beast let Roberto know in '97.

[@Ry19195]

Give me a true marvel universe. I love 616 but it’s time for change and fresh faces and characters

[@siriusbreak2212]

1 reason it can't be the F4 universe. The potential ending. If Marvel's 1st family is forced to abandon ship to get away from Galactus eating their world, it stands to reason that it wouldn't have a future in which anyone exists.

[@mykenorris5485]

Really like this theory. Makes much sense.

[@DumbleGrum]

This is honestly the earliest I've stumbled on a video! 😂

[@peaceblasterr]

My pick is that the 616 is half of the complete “true marvel universe” and the other battling universe or universes make up the other half. After secret wars, they merge and become the true full 616

[@LuigiHann]

Now I'm hoping you're right, that the FF and X-Men are grouped in one comic-esque universe. Would be fun to have at least one bit of dialog refer to one universe or the other as "ultimate" in some way

[@IronDad-ml3wq]

I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a mashed together sort of superset of everything we've seen so far, with everyone in it having memories of where they came from.

[@juancortes5274]

That what if sounds amazing 🤩

[@AydenBlevins-509]

Can you PLEASE go over the “Age of apocalypse” story please By the way I love your channel

[@SoulFlameXil]

4:13 In the last episode of Loki, *spolers* They said that the alternate Kang was a “616 adjacent” realm. So, my assumption is all the dimensions and realms you listed are mostly 616 adjacent. Meaning somewhat connected to 616 but not directly

[@aaronfaganstarr3942]

I thought reports were that Galactus was going to destroy Earth of the Fantastic Four's universe, and they would have to escape to our 616. 8 suppose if they have a big enough escape vessel, they could bring some other heroes over too

[@epicgodfather]

I think that once secret wars is over, the MCU universe left over will be universe 199999

[@Tom-_-Hanks]

Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.

[@Musikman18]

This is a beautiful theory! I have some crazy thinking to do

[@VincenzoAlfano-mt7kf]

Ai want the 616 universe to continue

[@marcushailey8498]

Ooohhhh awesome video! I'm curious to see what's to come.

[@MikeMoralesTequilaSensei]

Great and thoughtful pitch!💡

[@Hans-marleyansoldier]

I love love for all those universes to collide like in the comics🔥🙏

[@eliechaya9690]

Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤

[@dreamhersh]

What about the Sony Spiderman Universe?

[@bobpierce]

I’ll let you know after “First Steps” 😁 If they pull it off like you’ve described, I’d be very excited by the possibilities of that universe!

[@shaunbuenaventura4622]

I'd definetly watch this take on the MCU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cannot wait!!!!

[@jabbersjay6871]

I’ve been waiting for yall to talk abt this

[@blvck.pixels]

the logan who ended up in 10005 at the end of deadpool wasn't originally from that universe. they got pulled from another timeline after passing away in 10005.

[@quintessence8710]

“An Alex Ross-esque universe”❤

[@dawelsh241]

I wonder when we'll start to explore the many afterlifes of the marvel universe. Since a few big name characters dwell in the afterlife. We saw hints in doctor strange 2 and then Valhalla in thor 4

[@EdgeSlice]

Deadpool & Wolverine's Wolverine also had his own Avengers

[@JettKuroi]

The battle of those two universes is inconsequential if Galactus kills the F4 60's universe.

[@matty_g291]

Video idea: what if the cavelrine universe is the Zach Schneider universe, but marvel and not DC, having the same actors like Ben affleck as captain america, and ofc, Henry cavil as wolverine

[@TioJones-lm1zi]

Hahahahahhahaha or just and X-Men universe with Ben Affleck as Cyclops lol

[@marcusyates3044]

I like the Universe-10005

[@mikewootson2085]

its the best one for sure lol

[@chrisdiaz8279]

More accurate than earth 1999999

[@Magdalena8008s]

Here's how I see it. Dont let speculation be expectation. Judge based on what actually happens on its own merit.

[@QbertSix]

my hope is that we start unraveling the revelation that a lot of the seemingly related stories we’ve seen took placd on alternate/parallel earths. the old Marvel way of explaining away inconsistencies in continuity and a great setup for Battleworld

[@X-Tyler02]

Isn't the Fantastic Four movie universe supposed to die by the end of the movie...if it isn't then this works just fine but...from what is rumoured, this can't happen

[@leebloomfield507]

I really like your therory E. It makes a ton of sense, I'd love it if the 616 were over and we reset into a more comic accurate super hero universe, which may or may not be the same universe as the fantastic 4's, they have a different silver surfer apparently.

[@akashshetty5112]

We need the X-Men! ❤

[@raidenstark315]

I'm pretty sure deadpool got retcon as part of days of the future past good future and logan's universe

[@StudioGuillemCalvo]

What about what if? Where does that fit here?

[@vaporman442]

I think Secret Wars will be vs the Fantastic 4 universe-which will be primarily defended by Dr. Doom.

[@BarbieChanel2025]

Ultimate X-men universe

[@souvikbose5992]

2:57 Loki is in Citadel at the end of time which got broken and hence the throne where he sits it's the same throne of He who Remains🤓

[@LoadBearingWheight]

this would be awesome

[@keetonsoyars5946]

What about Peter-2 & 3's realities

[@MarrvelFan123]

15 seconds is a crazy time to get here

[@chiagozieoyeka6250]

Great theory

[@scikoe]

I agree that they wanted the universe from the marvels to be different. We have never seen Binary on screen before

[@PaulWells-g6k]

Secret Wars should be a fresh start event. Its time to bring it all together.

[@MikeNoMichael]

Since kang is nixed let’s just say it was the maker. Alternate reed.

[@brandonjones4452]

What about the first and rebooted ff4 movies???

[@DonnieGonzalez-lg3md]

Good video

[@angelicagolindano_art]

Best theory yet. The Feige-verse is still out there. Unexplored by MCU fans.

[@Samualethemonke]

Everything ❤

[@Jakiboi-mb4eo]

It’s weird to see how many alternate universes we have seen in the MCU already, it’s just getting started

[@Shatterstar2112]

They hit a wall, Time for change

[@gameburnerproductions]

What if in Secret wars It just makes the prime Marvel universe Able to have everything from the comics. Without having the universe split.

[@owenking6038]

I think that we keep some of our current characters, but also keep a lot of the newer ones from the F4 universe. Love that theory by the way. Then there will be some heartfelt moments losing characters weve grown to love but also gaining characters that we've wanted all along.

[@tylerjohnson2470]

What about the Spider verses?

[@JessicaRay-i5p]

Sony!

[@charleysylver]

I’d love to see different Universes and their histories crash together for Secret Wars, but then separate again. Because it’s hard to imagine that somewhere in the background of Captain America: Winter Soldier, there were (for example) vampires.

[@jackbrown1957]

I really wanna see a doom battle world where all time lines and multiverses collide into one making it the true marvel 616 universe

[@ricsummers8877]

my mind is blown🤯🤯

[@JazAcrossTheWorld]

I’m so excited is they desert everything and make it accurate and perfect

[@sourpatch64]

Your end theory is contrary to your other theories that Galactus destroys the FF universe

[@ysltah9726]

I think I’m feeling the one with everybody. Just because we can always go back and watch the movies. 😊

[@Raadryan]

I hope this is the route I always thought they are the left overs of a old universe that’s is a prime. Basically universe jr

[@stevenlivingston368]

Could we get an X-men vs. Avengers storyline

[@steev927]

Yeah, I'm ready for the 616 saga to end. A "true" MCU would have SO many more possibilities without having to retcon anything... ideally.

[@timwhetung2652]

I'd like to see Loki end up running an Exiles Team, to go off to other universes and fix problems.

[@nega-carnage6658]

Drunk Wolverine comes from 2032. Monica Rambeu meets Beast in 2026

[@mikewootson2085]

Im kinda curious how the incursions gonna begin would be similar like how the blip was is people appearing out of nowhere ??

[@LewisGale]

Mark Strong for Xavier please!

[@thiowangkhem3297]

I really hope somehow in the future movies, Doctor Strange goes through the multiverses (including X-men '97 and What If).

[@martinphipps2]

Wolverine in Daredevil and Wolverine was a variant anyway. They had their own Collosus.

[@helenkrane6313]

The comic book reader in me, wants the more complete marvel universe!

[@denzelpeoples2223]

I think it’d be fitting to have 3 main universes that the movies focus on in Doomsday and then BattleWorld in Secret Wars. The three would be 10005, 616 and a separate universe where the F4 and X-Men from the Marvels post-credits live. This then couldn’t be 838 because the F4 existed in the modern day and their Reed (who looks like John Krasinski) is dead. I’d be cool to also have 838 included in a smaller way, as well as have other cameos similar to Deadpool 3, and even seeing 838 Sue and others in the aftermath of Reed’s death. Lastly, I agree with everyone else that the other Marvel F4 properties gotta be included and with one of the Reeds being evil.

[@gameyfirebro9645]

I'd love it if we had the X-Men 97 X-Men appear at least once.

[@AdamanTium-d6w]

Charles is dead in 100005 and beast doesn't have fangs. It's two separate universes

[@StarkKent-q3o]

1:12 idc what Feige says That’s not 616

[@GothAtheist]

*The MCU is 199999, not 616

[@SectionATE617]

How could the universe that beast is in be the future of the ff4 universe if that universe will be destroyed by an incursion??

[@TioJones-lm1zi]

It's not idk why he would even assume that. Clearly Beast is from Earth 10005 FoXmen Revised timeline

[@JediFlip66]

Nice

[@karouakiva1714]

Noice.