Project Bluefin: Quick desktop tour and updates! Homebrew, boxbuddy, and ptyxis!

[@BashirAbba]

The best Linux distro, hands down! Migrated from SIlverblue to Bluefin and have never looked back. Everything just works.

[@folksurvival]

It won't install for me.

[@kicsyromy89]

Main Mission Center dev here. If you guys would like to collaborate, have specific needs for the OS please get in touch.

[@JorgeCastro]

Thanks for the offer! So far it's just perfect! Bound to a key people expect, it's beautiful, and always up to date via flathub. What's not to love! Hopefully this will expose more people to Mission Center!

[@OneQuarterLife]

Thank you for Mission Center, it's wonderful! Only things I could possibly ask for are the ability to view network stats (Similarly to KDE's system monitor), and display of nice values. The Bazzite team is happy to work with you in any way needed.

[@kicsyromy89]

@@OneQuarterLife I’ll have a look at how Plasma System Monitor exposes network info and see what we can bring into Mission Center

[@kicsyromy89]

@@JorgeCastro Far from perfect 😅 But really appreciate the positive feedback.

[@PoeLemic]

@@kicsyromy89 Have not installed Mission Center yet, because I just found out about it. But, I am coming from Windows into Linux, and I think what you did w/MC is incredible. I'm a Noob, so Htop wasn't for me. However, MC looks and feels so comfortable, so much akin to the newer Task Manager in Win10. Really fabulous work, makes one feel more comfortable in Linux and not as jarring. Because I think more & more people are coming over between now and Oct 2025. We're all pissed about losing older HW to the forced upgrade to Win11 ... no matter how well our hardware is working and is more than what we need to do our daily tasks. Thus, the World's considering Linux now.

[@felipe5195]

Amazing work! As a daily driver of bluefin-dx I could not be more pleased with the results.

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

This dude is all out of bubble gum. He has a vision and will Kool-Aid Man anyone who gets in his way. I love it!

[@theBoomerDoomer]

I've been working with Bluefin for the past week on my desktop, and it's been fantastic. It still seems a little weird on my Zephyrus G15 (sleap/suspend mostly), but using it has been smooth sailing!! Great work!!

[@PhilKulak]

Why Homebrew instead of Nix? Maybe it integrates a bit better in the container vs Nix that may be better outside of it? EDIT: oh! Because homebrew moved to containers. I heard you liked containers, so I put some containers in your containers! lol. Love it! I use Nix myself, but Bluefin goes on EVERY computer I build for someone else, or am otherwise responsible for. Thanks for all the hard work making less work for me!

[@JorgeCastro]

Brew isn't in the containers, it's on the host now. nix is conflicting with selinux and most people don't need it so we removed it, though people can always readd it if they want it.

[@matthiasbendewald1803]

​@@JorgeCastro it's Sometimes funny, some minor issues with brew and flatpaks on bluefin Made me try nix on bluefin, which was impressive and Made me Switch my main Machine to NixOS in the end. Bluefin is still so cool, easy to learn and reliable, great stuff! I'll keep using it for my desktop/gaming Machine, perfect fit for me.

[@iamuniquelyhuman]

Love the work you've done here and looking forward to learning more about Brew and container workflows

[@Sim-rh4tj]

Ok I haven't really paid much attention to brew, but you're changing my mind!

[@attilapinter7141]

This is the first time I actually considered moving away from Aeon for longer than 5 seconds :D Great work!

[@ComputationalAlchemist]

I'm a little late to the party, but this looks awesome! I look forward to trying it out and sending it to some friends.

[@brunombardi]

I'm creating my pendrive boot right now. Very anxious to try Bluefin =)

[@leonardobetti8811]

mate you been doing a great job, thanks for the effort!

[@alexravenna5827]

This looks incredibly interesting! I'm looking forward to your video about the DX version!

[@wolfisraging]

Brilliant work! Really appreciate for all the efforts. Thanks

[@BrainStormzFTC]

Yo! Mission Center shipped by default? Nice!

[@christ.4977]

You're doing incredible work!

[@cheebadigga4092]

love the progress! keep it up

[@OraOraOra]

You are my Hero! This feels so good and safe. Everything I learned about Linux, I can still use in my Boxes and Flatpak is great! But I need look into Brew... so Brew is just for CLI? Would you mind giving us a little Brew tour?

[@JorgeCastro]

There's lots of brew tutorials on youtube, you can just skip the installation part and go right to the usage!

[@ribbanya]

What's the best option for someone who wants a tiling window manager with the ublue amenities? Preferably a tiling version of the DX image.

[@levifig]

Would love to use this with i3 for sure…

[@inpurgatory]

Think you've sold me on this, I've been an OpenSUSE AEON daily driver since it came out pretty much, but I definitely like the look of this.

[@inpurgatory]

Unfortunately no matter what I do, after install it boots into emergency mode with a locked root account. Guess I'll stick to MicroOS for now.

[@galactustales]

Great! Please add documentation on how to add brew to path so that distroboxes also have access to it

[@sohrobby]

I’ve been really enjoying Fedora Silverblue and interested in trying out Bluefin. My only concern with community-run projects is sometimes they fall apart if the founder decides to pull the plug similar to what just happened to the Funtoo project.

[@niklas7816]

Love these videos!

[@Airmadillo]

I used to be a freak Debian fan! until I start watching your videos! lol

[@alabrrmrbmmr]

this is come cool stuff! I came here because I found ptyxis

[@aldosierra8131]

Hi, really nice work! I have a question, i know that hombrew is not install and at the end of the day you can install whatever you want but why recommend use hombrew instead of nix? I haven't used either, but i had heard more about nix, and (until today) i thought that hombrew was a macos thing.

[@yashagarwal8741]

can ye tell us how to switch prexisting silverblue to bluefin

[@mwont]

Gentoo + flatpak + brew = perfect combo. You compile your base system for best possible performance, and most user-space is from flatpak and brew (off course you can still compile all this staff yourself).

[@SahilShah-nf9tn]

Can you make a video on how to set up some development environments (ex lamp, flutter)? I understand the container based development, but am less clear about things like running Android studio or a local running Wordpress install.

[@JorgeCastro]

I recommend the vscode youtube channel, they have lots of these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmqvaIx8pq16oZY

[@gatosssss1]

Can't wait for dx video!

[@TheLinuxCast]

I probably missed it as I was doing two things at once, but is this taking over for Ublue? If so will there be other editions or images similar to how that ended up? Or can those be used with this? Asking because me and Gnome don't get along.

[@JorgeCastro]

All the other ublue images are still around: github.com/orgs/ublue-os/packages -- bluefin and bazzite are more opinionated, end-user focused products.

[@JorgeCastro]

Someone's working on a cosmic image. Is there a specific desktop you're looking for?

[@TheLinuxCast]

@@JorgeCastro plasma 6

[@JorgeCastro]

Yeah that'll land when Fedora 40 comes out, that'll be in Bazzite or kinoite though (this image in this video is GNOME).

[@unclefester9113]

Where did the installable IMAGES go ? I can't seem to find the Images ? Its a wonderful SilverBlue Linux experience

[@LiveLife378]

Hey Jorge, How are you dealing with flatpak cache and it not fully deleting the flatpak and any cache with it to avoid taking up huge storage space being consumed? Also, how do I install my brother protable scanner driver rpm file? No limitations side loading apps?

[@FuzzCheck]

Hey man, what kind of dark voodoo magic is in this spin? It works flawlessly. How?

[@LiveLife378]

@JorgeCastro How did you manage to add Containers option to that Fedora left top corner menu?

[@MinaSchloch]

The issue with automatic updates is, how to regulate to not update on certain networks (metered), not when the battery percentage is under x %, or to use a priority that doesnt use much CPU, or also not start when the CPU is used much.

[@JorgeCastro]

We check your battery, cpu, and memory pressure so it doesn't happen at an inopportune time!

[@folksurvival]

Interesting.

[@p1mml]

Is there a way to install a steam in any wan (eg. integrated as container)?

[@sanjayb301]

for readers, fedora silverblue is a containerized operating system, where in kernel is read only, version 40 incorporates Gnome 46 version , stock fedora 40 silverblue needs tweaks, (took 6 hours to me) to a end user desktop with all codecs. 30 reboots. Jorge passion to provide customized atomic OS with the fusion of best desktop OS incorporating gnome, selected gnome extensions are just mind blowing. married with software repository of flatpak , where each application runs in its own container environment. updates are automatic, no user intervention required. On restart of machine, there is a read only layer for each app. wish if someone reply as "Can this distro is vulnerable to compromise by hackers"

[@hammerheadcorvette4]

ptyxis is a great terminal. i think it's 60fps as well?

[@TheLinuks]

I downloaded it for my laptop, it's still on fedora 38

[@keyboard_g]

The elevator speech for Bluefin needs work. You start off with “lack of progress on the desktop” and “We’re taking a greenfield approach and starting over” followed up by “we just take Fedora tweak some things and ship it.” Not only doesn’t that really make sense to a newcomer, thats a big trash on the giant shoulders Bluefin stands on. The idea is good, but the presentation needs polish.

[@halmorgan5693]

I have just installed this from the latest .iso and ptyxis is not showing installed. It only has gnome terminal. Any idea why? What am I missing?

[@JorgeCastro]

ptyxis is not in the stable release yet, it'll come at the end of april. But if you want to go to 39 now follow these instructions: universal-blue.discourse.group/docs?topic=40#upgrades-and-throttle-settings-7

[@halmorgan5693]

@@JorgeCastro awesome....thank you

[@joshua_lee732]

In the meantime gnome till doesnt allow my monitors to stay asleep

[@TheLinuks]

The vscode looks just like it does on windows, how are you doing that, can you let me know

[@JorgeCastro]

In "Settings", search window.titleBarStyle and set it to native.

[@TheLinuks]

@@JorgeCastro Thanks

[@Aoitori365]

these kinds of distros do not work well for me because i need dkms to build the driver for my wifi dongle

[@pieterrossouw8596]

WiFi dongles with native support are dirt cheap, do you have like a fancy WiFi 6E dongle or something?

[@unclefester9113]

Homebrew ? How about VENTOY ?

[@pieterrossouw8596]

One of these things is not like the other...

[@mattz_zeref]

i there any discord channel?

[@xxxxyyyy-ll3hz]

A truly "next-gen" linux would innovate in ways that aren't just more of the same (ie. integration between Linux devices à la MacOS, and before someone mentions it, KDE Connect is NOT the solution). It would also require Linux folk accepting direction which would allow them to stop reinventing the wheel N (KDE vs Gnome vs Cinnamon vs...) times for every little thing. Don't take me wrong Bluefin is a nice effort and it's cool to see progress there, but the Linux desktop needs a wake-up call that's more than just another distro. Personally I now just SSH to a Linux desktop from a Mac and life is so much better.

[@bigpod]

i as many others belive that everything a next generation linux would need is already out there it just isnt used and integrated properly. honestly linux community doesnt have to accept anything cause they are a minority, most users just consume linux desktop and those are those who want more integrated better local experiance and those dont care about reinvention of wheel they just care someone put together a well integrated cohesive experience and ublue stuff feels that way much better then anything i used before

[@JorgeCastro]

Unless you're willing to front the cash to fix it there's not much people can do other than work on it as a hobby.

[@xxxxyyyy-ll3hz]

@@JorgeCastroIf I had a billion dollars... anyway, keep up the good work and thx for bluefin :)

[@bigpod]

@@xxxxyyyy-ll3hz that is also another aspect of it, its all a hobby for everyone, likely everyone would love to make have those tools(even if i dont think they are that usefull to me) but its hard to dedicate so much time and energy when there is no one who is willing to invest into hardware and well work time with money that is necessary to create those tools, and later on support them, all on full time basis that are missing and no billion is not what is needed its probably way less but still at the end of the day for most of the people linux desktop is a hobby not a job sad as that state of afairs is

[@bigpod]

@@xxxxyyyy-ll3hz and yes that is also the problem, its hard to work on something full time which is what this would require to if you cant sustain it. same comes with hardware to test and support that kind of endevour. At the end of the day its all hobby for most of desktop linux contributors which limits what we can create and support

[@juanvelezlopez]

I get why you don't like to call it a "Linux distro" because you are trying to do something different from the "distributing software" perspective, I just don't agree with it. Keep up the good work though, I'm really enjoying whatever it is you are doing 😂.

[@juanvelezlopez]

Btw, any eta for M1 support? I'm probably getting a new air the moment that is available!

[@JorgeCastro]

@@juanvelezlopezStill waiting on a volunteer!

[@pdp11]

Homebrew is the worst part of developing on macOS, and you decide to use it on Linux where you don't have to? I can't even...

[@JorgeCastro]

You can just use what you want then, you don't lose anything by us using it.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

Never had an issue with brew idk what you mean...?