WHISKER BISCUIT vs. DROP AWAY RESTS

[@joshfeister6566]

You should mount both rest on same bow and do a speed and accuracy test .. that way it's black and white what the difference is in speed and downrange accuracy... It would be easy and a great video

[@brycehiigel235]

I have only been bow hunting for about 5 seasons. I got my first bow it came with a whisker biscuit. After shooting it quite a bit I noticed my are shafts were getting rough like I was running it through sand paper and my vanes started curling. Watching your low motion video you can see why. I went to the QAD cable driven rest as soon as I could before my first deer season. This year I bought a new bow the Mathews V3 31 and I had them put the Hamskea Trinity (limb driven) on it. I liked it so much I had them put on on my back up bow. Doing the research the Limb driven guides the arrow longer than the cable driven which helps with accuracy plus less likely to mess up cause of cable stretch. There are a few videos I have found that explain the difference between the cable and limb driven rests other than the obvious.

[@HaxenHunt]

Heck ya man! Stoked for your new knowledge! Always best learning from experience!!

[@jsulaicawesttexasbeekeepin9860]

All you needed to do was up grade your fletching. Blazer vanes wont curl.

[@brycehiigel235]

@@jsulaicawesttexasbeekeepin9860 then what about the arrow feeling like you ran it through sandpaper. I will stick to the drop away

[@jsulaicawesttexasbeekeepin9860]

@@brycehiigel235 yeah that’s operator error. You need to work on tuning your WB. The ran through sand paper is definitely operator error. If it’s messing up your vanes just up grade vanes, blazers work super good. They can be straight or helical, if you have never fletched an arrow get your self a Arizona e-z fletch they work great. Good luck

[@brycehiigel235]

@@jsulaicawesttexasbeekeepin9860 thanks good to know if I ever go back

[@vallee9666]

There's hunting and targets and your talking about 150 yard shots. I appreciate your choice of a drop away but after year's of hunting and experiencing almost everything I have reverted back to the whisker rest...less part's to break, move or emit a noise the simplicity of the biscuit can't be beat in hunting situations. Many expert's after careful testing have been befuddled to find that sometimes simplicity matters!

[@trentsmith8497]

I’ve hunted 20 years and I have two bows built now. My defiant carbon turbo has a biscuit a sight and stabilizer. I have another aluminum defiant turbo, hamskee trinity rest, shrewd sabibilizers, Hogg father sight. 3D rig. When you get in the field and something is wrong with a drop away. The hunt is over. Unless you have a proshop near by. I shoot my bare carbon bow to 100 yards all day with my 3D rig. Biscuit is the 3030 of bow world

[@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801]

so you're saying a whisker basket is the way to go

[@trentsmith8497]

@@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801 for hunting situations, yes. As long as your not shooting a major helical arrow vane. 2 degrees or under. And especially now that the whisker biscuits are in a more v shape. Or the improved model. They are very accurate.

[@jsulaicawesttexasbeekeepin9860]

The biscuit is just bulletproof.

[@timl8302]

@@trentsmith8497 Or 4 fletch.

[@royleerobinson5]

Guys that wanna say speed is a down side to me the that’s a simple fix. put more draw weight into the bow to make up for the loss. Just not having my arrow flopping around inside of my drop down is a big case for the WB when hunting.

[@jsulaicawesttexasbeekeepin9860]

After having both i have to say that the WB is the kING hands down. What you gain from a drop away compared to how bulletproof the WB is do not justify switching. If you are hunting in a blind or a stand the drop away might be worth it, but i really don’t think so. But you should try them both and see for your self. Plus the WB stacks them every bit as good as the drop aways.

[@Cupillac]

Buddy recommended always keeping a backup whisker in pack in case regular rest fucks up on hunt

[@fuenstock]

Good idea!

[@McGerkFish65Outdoors]

I prefer the Whisker Biscuit as a hunting rest. Simplier, accuracte, and less chance at Murphy's Law on a critical shot. Plus it secures the arrow better than any drop away I've used. Drop aways are great on target bows. i"m testing Trophy Ridge's Level Drop now. Similar design to Vapor Trail's Limb Driver, but its cable driven. So far its great and highly accurate. Great vid. You picked up a subscriber.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

It's been tested. You lose 3fps within the first 40 yards. NO DEER is going to get away from a shot because a bow is 3fps slower and why? Because a 300fps bow (give or take 10fps) is going to shoot that arrow from bow to target in 1/4 of a second. A 40 yard shot takes literally .4 seconds from release to target. 🙂

[@HaxenHunt]

Thanks for your input!!

[@kadenbrink3012]

I’ve had problems with drop away rests, one problem in particular is the rattling of the arrow in the rest, I messed up on multiple deer and a coyote with a drop away due to the arrow rattling in the rest

[@tyjones5019]

Putting felt on nearly eliminates that problem. Pretty easy fix.

[@timl8302]

@@tyjones5019 @kadenbrink3012 felt &/or mole skin.

[@scottymoore9121]

A biscuit is a good rest. Blazers are best for the Biscuit. That being said, I did switch to a fall away QAD because the QAD could be raised up and hold arrow up without having to pull string back 1st. Also I was having to fletch arrows a little more often than usual. But I love the biscuit still and have it as a back up rest for those unforeseen problems that might, but not probable, issues I might have. The QAD, in my opinion only, is better than the Ripcord. But the ripcord is a good one. Each their own. That’s why we have so many choices. Keep huntin’

[@waynebattersby9461]

My 1st compound bow is coming on Monday I will only shooting 30-50yds do you think a A whisker biscuit would be ok

[@kurttlethorup]

Whisker biscuit clearly causes the veins to "flap" but by doing so it kicks off the vein induced rotation earlier, which could aid in stabilization quicker... also i don't know if fps or accuracy is really affected very much if at all... it might just be preference

[@DarxusC]

So the whisker biscuit has no disadvantages at any realistic hunting ranges, and has a significant advantage in reliability. So drop away rests should be banned from hunter target competition classes?

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

QUESTION> I have an QED Dropaway now but am looking at selling my hunt bow for an supra focus and money is tight, so being that I'm just shooting for fun in my backyard,....[question] "can I still use this rest with a target bow?

[@HaxenHunt]

Yeah for sure!

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

@@HaxenHunt okay one more question please...Q:> I don't have a bow press can I install the cable into the bus cable using an scribe if I'm careful?

[@HaxenHunt]

If your careful I’m sure you could make it happen!

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

@@HaxenHunt thanks Mr. Hunt. I just found out I have a buyer for my bow which I will ship tomorrow. Lost a lot but now I will have just enough for my supra focus xl. That is the intended recipient of my QED and my slide hunting sight which I will be shooting my carbon arrows from.... should be very interesting. Thanks again 🏹🤠👍

[@HaxenHunt]

No problem! Best of luck!

[@christopherx1788]

You can get drop away rests for twenty bucks though?

[@michiganwoodsman2199]

Deep bro. Deep.

[@kleomacdonald]

Seams like there is more resistance when the nock comes off the string then the fletchings going through the biscuit... any thoughts on testing resistance of the two?

[@tsz374]

I like the wb, but main cause so i use it my bow is onecam

[@FPChris]

Does the whisker work with micro diameter like .166” VAP’s?

[@anestischatzibeis]

Can a w biscuit cause a big fail , like a carbon arrow brake and string/cables derail? It happened to me. My biscuit moves a little in the housing.

[@danielbruno6563]

Have you ever reviewed APA King cobra or black mamba? If not I would like your opinion.

[@HaxenHunt]

I haven’t! Never shot one before but when i can afford to buy one just to review I will for sure!

[@fbiz01]

Glad to see you supporting Ben with the shirt.

[@brokenarrow6491]

I watched a hunting show where this guy shot at a huge buck and that rest didn't drop. He did not hit the deer. He said that if he was using a whisker biscuit he would have killed that deer even though he was sponsored by the drop rest company.

[@robertcussen8039]

What's the weight difference?

[@DeerDecreasers]

I have a whisker biscuit it get annoying i don’t know if its my arrow tho but my arrow will sometimes fly weird

[@MCA2A]

Thanks

[@sovietrepublic38]

is it possible to apply a whisker biscuit to a recurve bow?

[@georgewashington1621]

I've just recently bought my first bow and it came with a whisker biscuit arrow rest and it is ripping the front ends of the fletchings off of an arrow after 3-4 shots of that arrow. Is this normal? I'm tired of gluing the front end of the fletchings back to the arrow after 3-4 shots. Maybe something is wrong with my setup?

[@HaxenHunt]

It shouldn’t be ripping them off in just 3-4 shots... maybe like every 100 shots at the least! Not sure what could be happening. Could be the glue or it could be your rest

[@joellowrie8502]

That's your glue not your rest. Some fletching materials are not compatible with some glues...

[@samaric3046]

I'm like 80% sure your circle on your biscuit in the middle is to small and the arrow is rubbing and making those fletchings ware off, I think it's your rest, you should consider getting one that has a larger circle for your arrow to fit.

[@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801]

why did the American Indians kill plenty of deer w out either of these items ?? especially the drop away ??

[@benhairston9927]

We shoot the same arrows

[@mikelawson919]

Hunting=biscuit....spots=drop away

[@Hunting4Hookers]

Actual speed tests through a chrono shows an average of 3 feet per second loss over 30 shots using a Whisker Biscuit over a drop away. The arrow won’t fall off a whisker biscuit compared to a drop away. No moving parts to fail on a whisker biscuit , and a potential nightmare with a drop away. So I’m wondering why shoot a drop away and spend a minimum of twice as much for a loss of dependability? Just my opinion. I suppose we can agree to disagree. Peace! ✌️

[@russelllieser4226]

How about a video on limb vs string drop away.

[@HaxenHunt]

That’s on the list for sure!!

[@Lucky13Twice]

He has no idea what he's talking about. Whisker Biscuit is extremely accurate.

[@joshdonahoe2503]

you can be very accurate with a whisker biscuit but a drop away is undoubtedly better. do you know of any professional archers that use whisker biscuits? the vast majority of target archers use a launcher and I highly doubt there are many people that use a whisker biscuit that would consider archery a full time job

[@noahsmith6520]

Josh Donahoe my thing which made me decide after I got one for a gift to was if I were in a tree stand shooting below me the arrow is not gonna be held down so then I’d have shooting problems but if you were to be shooting and have no chance of shooting directly below you then drop away all the way

[@catchfishhunthogs104]

Yes the whisker biscuit is accurate but the drop away is more accurate

[@NG-pm2gw]

@@saulgood6190 problems with whisker biscuits is that they are louder than a drop away. And when it's cold whiskers are terrible.

[@TannerScott1]

We all have our

[@sideshowbob64]

Compressed aluminum?

[@DarxusC]

"boughten" - 5:30

[@HaxenHunt]

Yeah it’s a dumb Utah thing that I catch myself saying😂

[@DarxusC]

Living languages have fascinating variety.

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

The call out video! Great!

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

You should use the same bow and test the speeds and accuracy, it would be interesting to video. My friend Paul Korn, from Paul Korn Bowhunting channel loves his whisker for hunting.

[@olehemlock]

@@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 I have seen speeds vary greatly on whisker biscuit rest anywhere from 2 to 9fps. To many variables, size of fletching, how many, how much offset, straight or helical.

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

@@olehemlock good points, yes that makes alot of sense

[@TwinStarGenny]

Just skip to minute 9 and you'll get the answer

[@micahdunleavy9227]

Whisker bisket slows it down maybe 1.5-2mph… so basically nothing… They just aren’t nearly as cool as a drop away… Looking cool is important ..

[@BradfordStokes]

Watch Pigman hit at 100 yards with a whisker biscuit.

[@Backin_Theday]

Of course the option people forget is that if you need or want to finger shoot the drop away is pretty much worthless. To consistently shoot with fingers you need side force applied to the arrow. Being a consistent finger shooter with a drop away is difficult. Price is not a consideration, it all come down to function.

[@HaxenHunt]

Yeah I haven’t shot fingers in like 10 years so I’m not familiar with it! Thanks for the info on that though!! I really appreciate it!

[@charleslefebvre5515]

Most likely because most people aren't shooting fingers anymore. Modern compounds aren't designed to be shot with fingers.

[@Backin_Theday]

@@charleslefebvre5515 what about the Martin Axxon 36, 39 and 40? Hoyt makes a long axle to axle as well. I own several bows and release aids, compound and recurve. My shortest compound is a 30 and that would pinch fingers, but my oldest compound is a functional 72# Hoyt, with a 42 axle to axle distance. Even though my 30 is only a years old and shoots sweet, it doesn't get used as much because I've never really had much of a use for short bows. I'm 6'4" and longer bows just suit me, so finger shooting an option. The terrain out here in Washington state is very much suited to stalking and not sitting in tree stand. Martin doesn't go around advertising it but a couple of their factory team target shooters also bow hunt using fingers on their Axxon series target bow. I think it's important to remember that bows at one point were not specialized and you simply shot what you brung.

[@eddiemegonnell3429]

you can not hang upside down wath a dropaway rest.🙃

[@briannichols9680]

don't know about the shirt though😁

[@HaxenHunt]

😂😂 the dude is a beast😂

[@MegaTroyhamilton]

Drop a ways suck. They always screw up

[@HaxenHunt]

Really? I’ve shot one for 12 years and have never had an issue

[@stevefaculakiii55]

Wow, this is all opinion. No data or sampling. Data would say this is too much exaggeration - loss of maybe 4-5 fps, and WB has shown to be accurate as hell out to 100- yards.

[@chuck333yt]

This guy looks like Ben Feldman lol

[@gregshubert1785]

Great review. I like both rest. I have had success with both. An the trump commercial before the review was cool too. #Trump2020 😁😁😁

[@808kahulaa]

Intro is too long

[@HaxenHunt]

Yeah I’ve changed it on my newer videos

[@democratpro]

Sorry, but i don’t care how you “FEEL” it would work.

[@justinjones3839]

lol boughten

[@clarkedarren241]

You talk to much get to the point.

[@HaxenHunt]

Too*