White Belt Beats Brown Belt (Was it Faked)

[@JoshRichBJJ]

I plead not guilty lol. Thanks for making this sick video about my matches!

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Solid Jits on display here 👏

[@GrapplingTV]

@Jedi Does Jiujitsu josh is the new 🌊🌊

[@magicp4468]

I was One of the first to Watch his video when he put it on KZbin..i was amazed by his performance and still amazed. I watched it again today and after that i watched one of yours Jedi..2hours later i am here watching your commentary about his performance ✨👌what do we call it synchronicity💫by the way not guilty my honour👨‍⚖️

[@bryanmayfield7916]

Good shit my guy

[@2ubeleg1t31]

Inspirational man, keep it up! Subbed to your channel as well.

[@HolyMith]

If he's a white belt, I'm a see-through belt.

[@pingwinson369]

🤣

[@Daniel-it6qn]

No-Belt JJ coming soon to FloGrappling

[@RamseyDewey]

Part of me wants to say “Josh should have been promoted to a higher rank”, but… I know from firsthand experience how BJJ belt rank politics work. For I too was once a “competition blue belt” … for 10 years.

[@TcBalkom]

RAMSEY IN THE COMMENTS!!! I watch alot of your content coach Dewey, I didn't know you were a 10 year! Puts alot into perspective, just got my purple a week ago, after 4 years as a blue belt; so much politics

[@martiallife4136]

And then there are instructors who will give rank when it's warranted. If you are a white belt and beating brown belts in competition then you DESERVE to be a higher rank.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@martiallife4136 true, that's something that think about Judo as well

[@2002kirbow]

I suspect this is far more common than people think. Including seasoned wrestlers who are well above white belt level in BJJ but remain there due to a few holes in their Jujitsu game,and win matches because of this loophole

[@Crystals10000]

10 years....as a blue belt.....what

[@SirThorp]

Meanwhile on the other end of the spectrum, I went 0-5 in my first tournament yesterday. 6months of training

[@christophervanaman4690]

All good bro. At least you are out there and bettering yourself. I bet a few more years in and you will be a beast

[@Ac30br1en1]

6 months training, in tournaments you might face people who have been training up to 24 months at white belt, don't beat yourself up.

[@El-flaco-d]

You guys are on the same spectrum. Both white belts. One just better than the other

[@Bernedhot]

Bottom line is those are not white belt level skills but he’s not sandbagging since he’s in the open 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Haz2288]

I personally don't care what belt he is if he's competing in the expert division. His understanding of inside control from bottom is crazy for a white belt though. Combine that with the preshhhh during the kneecut, it's hard to say dude is a true white belt. When I was a white belt I had glaring holes in my understanding-glad to see the game ✨evolving✨

[@xmanc5687]

Then he’s not a white belt

[@youngandstonedd]

Hes a white belt but has alot of Matt experience just check his channel

[@vaklinpetkov7496]

video was awesome. love the fact that josh didn't use anything super fancy, just very well understood and applied fundamentals.

[@meditate_ssbu]

Our hero returned when we needed him most

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Das right

[@derrickrobinson7269]

I feel like the problem is most competitions and schools don't separate Gi rank and NoGi rank. So when someone like Josh who grinded only NoGi at 10p then it looks really bad for the other guys who probably mainly do Gi

[@ElbowsTight]

Watching people like Josh makes me want to give my blue belt back. Great content and editing as usual!

[@poldreborn4281]

Nah, I think he should be blue belt at least.

[@ElbowsTight]

@Ernie Strother 🤙🙏🥋

[@Unoriginalswine]

Well he is a blue belt, and clearly was sandbagging a little or at the very least his coach was a dick who wouldn't promote him lol

[@I_am_Dad_Son]

I personally have a friend who tapped brown belts in tournament as a white belt. He got his blue belt shortly after and went on to tap a bellator fighter who was also a brown belt in an open. So it definitely happens. But he was really good and naturally gifted. People may call it sandbagging.

[@gallantdon]

You're back!!!! Missed your videos bro. Informative and entertaining

[@PariahKamikaze]

People get too caught up in belts. I've seen many instances where guys had tons of grappling experience prior to entering a school that goes by a belt system. If a guy has years of judo, sambo and wrestling under his belt (no pun intended) then it's not unusually for him to be able to handle himself against high ranked belts once he enrolls at a BJJ school that makes everyone start off as white belts, no matter how advanced their actual skills are. NO white belt submits a brown belt unless they have some legitimate prior experience.

[@xmanc5687]

That is true, but technically and realistically that’s not a white belt.

[@marcthenazarite1711]

@@xmanc5687 so what belt is he?

[@rohitchaoji]

I think of belts similar to degrees and certificates in education. If you have a PhD, it means you've spent a lot of time learning about and researching a topic. But you could also have done that as a consequence of your job or something, which usually won't yield a piece of document saying that you did the work.

[@ken244]

As a kid back in early 70s Bruce Lee was a God and I had seen all his movies by the age of 13. I learned a lot from them including sweeps, double kicks ETC. Growing up in a big city in California I also had a few street fights. When I started MA I was a few steps above most beginners. My point is this kid could be a white belt with possible wrestling experience and learned some moves from videos and ufc ETC.

[@dastevenater]

Ya. I think the real question is "are these guys actually brown belts?"

[@xmanc5687]

They’re brown belts, but he’s no white belt. He moves at high level, white belts don’t do that.

[@neilgomes6049]

You’ve always been good at editing my guy - a white belt 1 stripe

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Keep it up my guy

[@brokentypewriterprod]

Josh became a blue belt soon after that so he was sand bagging a little

[@Funkyfm9]

a little? lol

[@MansterBear]

It’s not sandbagging off he joins an expert open belt tourney lol. Sandbagging would be off he joined a white belt tourney when he’s clearly ready to move up

[@sdeezn89]

I love watching your videos!! Very entertaining! I train with/under a guy at 10th Planet Denver that competed against you a while back whose also a purple belt named Keith Roop-Eckart! He said you're a really cool guy and it has always shown in your vids!! Keep up the great work! 🤟🏿🤟🏿

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Oh damn. Definitely at a submission challenge lol

[@ivanlandabaso9065]

Really glad you are back to putting videos out dude! Great stuff keep them coming!

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Thanks for the luv!

[@bryanbryan2968]

Tiny story. I was training in Kempo and my partner was a white belt, about my size and a little older;we were just doing kicks and we had heavy pads but his kicks were really solid and I said, “How in the world are you a white belt?” And his reply, “Oh, I’m a black belt in 6 other styles.”

[@RudyWarman]

I've never been to grading and any stripes I received came off in the washing machine. Now I only train no gi, so still a white belt. I saw so many people get their purple and brown belts, that as far as I could see only got them for attending class, as they seriously lacked some basic fundamentals. That's why I didn't care what belt I was because to me it didn't matter. White Belt for LIFE!

[@raderws]

Good stuff. Missing watching you rolling videos.

[@rayciannello2268]

Pajama Purist is freakin hilarious

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Lmao

[@mikethestoner]

Brother this video was great! Never seen you're content before now and I can say for definite you're videos are already making me want to learn more about bjj, I've never bothered about it in the past but I dk you make it sound good haha

[@AC-ik6ie]

Appreciate your videos, hope to see footage of you training again!

[@hexeum1644]

best channel to watch after jiu jitsu. just got my first rear naked choke in sparring and your videos are the best swear i've seen this video before but im still watching it again 😂😂

[@hexeum1644]

just saw my other comment 💀

[@PheseantNetsuke]

that guy actually got his blue belt, but he's still wrecking brown belts around in his other competition matches

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

I’m not surprised at all

[@DaCrazyJEW]

He’s not a “white belt” clearly.. lol

[@paragon1782]

he had only been training for a year and 3 months with no previous grappling allegedly. He says he just trained 6-8 times a week for that period. I think its possible if he was very talented and athletic.

[@adamgillespie3393]

He was promoted very quickly afterwards. It's an obvious case of withholding a belt from someone and them becoming way to strong for their division.

[@adrianoooo10000]

I was a white belt 3 days ago, and some people would doubt my belt too. Idk in other countries, but in Brazil, competitors in general are all very tough, even the white ones. I never lost a competition, but now that Im a blue belt I have a big chance of losing, cause Ill get guys that are holding their blue belt maybe for years, and are next to the purple. So, in general the belt doesnt mean a Lot, especially If you are a competitor, cause you will need to be better than the regular dudes. For example, I train very hard with purple, brown and Black belts, and some times I get ragdolled, but I've finished them many times as well, especially purple ones.

[@tedgiannacopoulos3660]

That was absolutely hilarious! I love this commentary shit!

[@kevindiaz8583]

Jiu jitsu Jedi goes hard love the videos

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Thanks 🙏

[@cb4354]

First of all that blue belt is really a white belt and that white belt is at least a purple

[@derrickrobinson7269]

LMAO 😂 some BJJ schools have different standards and focus. Some more Gi and some only NoGi. It's completely up to the head Black Belt. I feel like the problem is most competitions and schools don't separate Gi rank and NoGi rank. So when someone like Josh who grinded only NoGi at 10p then it looks really bad for the other guys who probably mainly do Gi

[@willalfano8]

absolutely hilarious watching you break down people ive rolled with

[@shades6768]

LETS GO A NEW JEDI VIDEO

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

🙌🏽

[@porkysugrim]

Dude you are at least a Purple belt 3 stripes with these editing skills 🤘

[@Crystals10000]

lmao all these memes and references are amazing

[@MrStrongBro]

It’s great to see you back making content man!

[@gentle8491]

Man we have you been. Long time we didn’t see yours interesting content glad you back

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Thanks for the luv

[@Apl-yt01]

glad to see uploading again dude✌️✌️ mans only guilty of being an Absolute Beeeaaast! 💯

[@TopLevelJiuJitsu]

I have seen this a number of times now in various tourneys. These guys are watching nogi expert grapplers and investing in their content. Then they come in with a very basic strategy and employ it well. Today's competitive beginners have a huge leg up on the previous generation.

[@castro619a]

I love how Jedi puts a clip of him doing well cuts, then shows Jedi getting submitted 2 seconds later

[@octavia458]

Needs a promotion for sure. At least a new stripe!

[@ccrass4443]

Love you putting the “brown belt” MMA guy in check

[@raffdu75]

thanks for those videos where you break down techniques =)

[@star_fossil]

Welcome back, Sir. Been gone so damn long I got my blue belt.

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Congrats 🎉

[@sampekula9642]

This is not a fake belt, this is just the product of someone who has a gameplan and has drilled it over and over again

[@edkinj]

Man it’s been a minute lol keep up the good work!

[@sldrmedik]

What if he trained on DVDs and never got promoted by a school and thus out of the honor of not promoting himself he remains a blue belt

[@dannygrows]

This edit is hilarious bro 🤣🤣👏👏

[@lofteyyyyyyy3437]

So glad you posting more

[@angelcampos4378]

Bro… when you dropping Merch! I want first dibs. Love you content.

[@Sage_6reen]

This was great. Love the overlap between you two, you guys should do a Collab video.

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Yeah I definitely like his style

[@seagreen01]

Was watching and saw you training at my gym in the footage like wtf lol

[@michaelspoto8720]

7:48 "proving that he is the true alpha male. he probably even watches andrew tate" lmao

[@karma_decay]

Your honor, at 06:10 the defendant grabs the other guy's shorts. If that's not some certified white belt shenanigans, I don't know what is.

[@mp9810]

More contennnttttt. Love your stuff 🤙

[@jethrox827]

Always interesting posts bro, how's the knee going are you back on deck now?

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Yeah been training a little. Thanks for the luv 🙏

[@hexeum1644]

BABE WAKEUP, JEDI UPLOADED

[@pninnan]

I saw this same guy get wrecked (no offense, they were all monsters) by blue belts in a tournament at b team. Not all athletes are created equal, he isn’t a sandbagged just a good athlete. Guy with dreads also looked really small, huge factor there

[@jtnd1]

Whether hes a white belt or not. he's clearly and elite grappler. Good shit

[@ezra420420]

Wicked knee slice pass open guard and sweeps pure white belt

[@pingwinson369]

Brilliant commentary always

[@metrolinamartialarts]

That guy rocked those matched 🪨

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

No joke!

[@andrewcremeans398]

Love the reaction videos! Keep doing what you're doing man!

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Thanks buddy

[@tonytaf107]

Finally, Jedi 🤙🏼👋🏼👋🏼

[@CGhee135]

I know I’m a shitty old man white belt. I don’t need you confirming it. Love your stuff.

[@billyparnell9296]

Gym's that get high off of farts while rolling will keep you at white belt for year's just to boast about you winning some tourney's.. it's why I went from Carlson Gracie Jr to Orlando Araujo... I started in Chicago ended up in Arizona... Same scam with this cat...

[@0630430]

Great editing! Love your videos. Are you back training?

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Yessir

[@0630430]

@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 Love to hear it! Will you be attending ADCC next month?

[@iFunky0]

This guy funny as hell 😭

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

I know that this is how the sport is supposed to be, but i still think that just sitting on the ground waiting for your opponent because he can't just kick or punch you is a dishonorable strategy. Even the people from Kosen Judo didn't fight like that back then...

[@lukej452]

that's not white belt guard retention or butterfly sweep bro, he looks like he's got 6-8 years of training under his belt

[@cornprices1718]

nah. maybe a guy with absolutely no grappling understanding whatsoever, but it's *really* not that hard to learn the guard retention fundamentals. most of the white belts in my gym have an extremely solid understanding of guard retention and butterfly and it only takes them about a year to get there. competing will propel your progression 10 fold

[@efficiencybill2843]

Love the Sims song hidden in the background

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

A fellow intellectual

[@AlexanderKnecht1]

What instrument do you play? I can relate to practicing while recovering from injury at 1:53 haha

[@El-flaco-d]

I’m a white belt in his 50 and tapped out a brown belt in his early twenties. But I only did it once.

[@King_Of_Games]

If you come from a grappling background that doesn’t use belts to distinguish people the idea of being a freshman destroying the Senior is not that off and it’s not that different than being a white belt destroying a brown belt.

[@assassin7250]

this guy is a blue belt now. hes train alot in Nogi..

[@Joe-pd3lx]

He is back

[@safaafreeman564]

A week ago my teammate a real white belt was rejected to compete at white belt level and had to compete at blue level belt because judges saw his level wasn't while belt even he's a white belt.

[@freashty]

This crossover episode was sick

[@lukamixan3493]

OPFOR… were you in the military Jedi??

[@biancarose1280]

I live for these videos

[@unchien2069]

This is why belts are dumb. In any other sport, it’s completely possible and documented that someone who is newer to the sport, more athletic, more motivated or smarter, can compete with/beat an athlete who’s been playing for longer. Same goes in jiu jitsu. Belts are literally a time served indication, not how good you actually are.

[@rackinfrackinvarmint]

Video kinda ended a little abruptly

[@xmanc5687]

That’s no white belt

[@rlclark50]

2:00 Lol was that the music from the purchasing menu in The Sims?

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

A fellow intellectual I see

[@jayjitsu1986]

If he’s a white belt then I’m a denim belt

[@danielnigra1922]

Hey brother. Haven’t seen a video from you in sometime. I’ve either missed them all or you took some time off either way I hope you’re well

[@bigchief4052]

"Competition " white belt lol

[@poonegev6519]

I did the exact same thing when I was a white belt but to be fair I was a good wrestler growing up so it’s a lil different I definitely wasn’t pulling guard, but I did smash out and submit 2 purple belts at a local tournament

[@elyogito5621]

Not a fake, he just studied Marcelo Garcia a lot.

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Clearly

[@erikreddington461]

Me likey the fun funny fun funnies. Moar! Don't be afraid of them memes. Just watch that pregnancy submission. I hear supreme court.. excetera

[@thesliceline1442]

the subtle PH drum intro killed me.

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

You dogg

[@MansterBear]

Not guilty by reason of… taco seasoning ad. That’s what I got

[@daithi1966]

I don't know if the guy was a white belt or not, but I can't imagine that he will be a white belt very long.

[@lawrencejones1237]

I personally think this video shows a perfect example of why belts don't mean anything.

[@jameslyons6655]

There were definitely guys that came in as white belts that had natural athleticism. Picked things up super quick, did not make the same mistake twice and were hard to catch with the same thing more than once. They could be difficult to deal with in a very short period of time if they were the type to practically live on the mats soon. I always noticed them because I was on the complete opposite end of that spectrum.

[@brandonpemberton5707]

C'mon dude. If you are young, athletic, and dedicated and you are around 16 months of training at 9X per week, YOU SHOULD NOT BE ENTERING OR WEARING WHITE BELT. Its not uncommon for practictioners who train 2.5x per week for 14 months to get promoted to blue. You in excess of 3x the amount of mat time over here. Not only is this sandbag status.. its on the higher end of the sandbag spectrum🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

Have to disagree. Homie was only training 3 months in this video. He also went up to expert division. His competition may not have been elite but you can’t pretend like he was rolling with white belts

[@shepsean1]

how is competing in the expert division sandbagging?

[@brandonpemberton5707]

@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 No. Its been changed/edited if that's the case. A month back it clearly said he'd been training a year and 3 mo

[@thefitgm335]

Train all you want in that short amount of time, you're only going to get good at those things that you trained. There's going to be big gaps in other areas, because of the long-term training deficit. Either way, this kid is a 10th planet student, who probably only trains nogi, so the point is moot, because once you place in a tournament like Naga, you can't stay in a beginner level anyway. They will automatically push you up.

[@Delamthedestroyer]

Sandbagging would have been if he had entered the novice division..

[@mmwjade07]

weird short ending... i need more!

[@georgep9993]

Awesome you went to my gym VOW

[@theunknownguy265]

Yaay more content