White Fragility Lecture with Dr. Robin DiAngelo

KTOP-TV 10 presents a keynote presentation with Robin DiAngelo, PhD author of: White Fragility: Why It's So Hard For White People to Talk About Racism

[@baalstone675]

Every other one of her lectures have the comments turned off. Sunlight is the best disinfectant

[@TONYBLACKLEGACY]

@Jack Kalergi Detroit just as it was trying to “reverse generations of structural racism and poverty. One concept has been often mentioned amid our country's current crisis, but it is not as often understood: systemic racism. In the United States, racial ideologies operate politically, legally, and socially to limit African Americans. the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.

[@TONYBLACKLEGACY]

@Jack Kalergi isreal are now nazis but she admits her racist bias but she is right white supremacy make whites blind to others not just in america but europe australia have white supremist attack going up.

[@daniellove162]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY - Brotha, your desire to defend a white woman says a lot. Admitting that as a white woman she is racist doesn’t make her not racist. Go see what Brotha Malcom says about White Liberals, SHE is exactly what she says she is. She is racist.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY you're right I'm with you 100 percent

[@cortc3177]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY Yeah that’s what I do with people I disagree with.... call them fragile lol. Are you serious? That’s really weak.

[@Benjamin_Monnoyeur]

“Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

[@johneboy910]

That is way too simple for this woman. It's better to make blanket statements about a mass of millions of people who happen to have one thing in common. It's as if I could make a statement about brown haired people. What would that even mean?

[@Benjamin_Monnoyeur]

@@johneboy910 Right. It's called racism what she does. She takes us back 100 years ago.

[@johneboy910]

@@Benjamin_Monnoyeur She is either a victim of some heavy-duty brainwashing and left in a psychological state that resembles the "Stockholm Syndrome". Or she's a morally bankrupt and unethical individual capitalizing on a current wave of "white hate" to fatten her purse. Or, she's a paid agent who's accepted her "40 silver coins" from some "white hating" big money people to produce this racist trash.

[@elliottbrown1329]

@@johneboy910 Sounds like youre one of those fragile white males.

[@elliottbrown1329]

MLK never said those words. This is the actual quote in its entirety: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

[@hlewis5847]

When you are from one race, speaking on behalf of another race while profiteering off of their misery... what was the definition if privilege again?

[@silkrock7295]

Profiteering on whom? She is a white woman speaking to white people. Who do you think is buying the book?

[@oxines6979]

We have a problem... Some people indeed based their economy on slave but the problem is: is their economy still like that ? If i live in a poor region does tbat made me benefit from that ? Yeah, we can't be sure... Some people based gheir economy in slaves(i do not know if they are alive or if their economy is still active..) Here is one example: imagine that i benefited 30 thousand dollars... After the war i lost all of these 30 thousands... I needed to base my economy in my skills... Here is the question: is my money still based in slavery ? I am not saying tbat 2 mkes one right... But some africans also benefited from that... Some of them sold their enemy... It means that africans benefited from thht even if just a little bit...

[@QuatMan]

She is not speaking on behalf of non whites. She is sharing her own perspective. Mentioning non whites does not mean she is representing them.

[@marcusdarden1535]

She addresses and acknowledges that. She also donates to Black organizations and encourages others to do the same.

[@preppychrisbou]

She is racist.

[@cperez1000]

"Judge a man not by the content of his character but by the color of his skin" D' Angelo

[@griz063]

It's poignant that corporations would hire a self-professed racist to lecture their staff about better race relations! (And for HUGE fees as well!).

[@dougtaylor2803]

@@griz063 Is this a great country or what?

[@lodz8666]

you white people are so predictable

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

@@griz063 She's been the best, she points out the shit I experience from white people all the time.

[@griz063]

@@RedRabbitEntertainment All white people? Do you never experience shit from other people? Is their shittiness just a function of their skin color? Dude, that's racist!! She's admitted to such in her book! I could probably go through and single out all the things blacks have done to me and all the things latinos have done to me and all the things Sikhs have done to me and so on and so on. There might even be trends and patterns!! (Every time I was mugged or robbed it was by a black person!). But to expand those judgements across an entire race based on the color of their skin and not on the content of their individual character, is racist! Even if one tries to postmodernize it into "anti-racist!".

[@doghugger5445]

She's right. There is no such thing as "reverse" racism. It's just racism.

[@laurieberry162]

Pretty much, I found myself curious about people of different races and I am half Ashkenazi Jew and half Lutheran. Not really. My great grandfather was one fourth Native American and he went to catholic school. My ancestors go really far back in the United States. My great great grandmother was biracial. She was in the suffrage marches. She identified as white and was highly white passing, but she had extremely dark eyes and jet black hair. Her father was white and her mom was most likely Abenaki and was born in Vermont. Five generations back, my ancestors were from Salem, Massachusetts. This lecture is interesting to me. It makes sense. I did decide to learn and observe black people. I was curious. People have complained about my blonde hair and wonder about my brown eyes. No one knows that my sister adopted a biracial baby. My dad was a dark complected Ashkenazi Jew and I had relatives die in the Holocaust. I remember in my thirties I lived in a Hispanic denominated neighborhood. I moved because of the roaches and the water being turned off. I naturally feel close to Hispanic people because of my mom’s step father who we called grandad Emilio. Then we found out that my mom has Iberian DNA. I do know what white privilege is. I believe that I have advantage in understanding racism because of my bipolar disorder. I may have people mistakenly believe that I am more racist than I am. As someone who is 49% Ashkenazi Jew, I had a bunch of relatives die in concentration camps. I have used one racial slur because I didn’t know what it meant. I was a teenager. This man told me that he was white and it is the best race in the world. He was a call up medium. He used the s word for Hispanic people. The difference is that he was intentional and I was not intentional. I lived in a Hispanic neighborhood and I know a little Spanish because of junior high and high school. I am sort of learning disabled. I believe that if I went to Springbrook, I would have flunked out. So I went to private school. The kids were mean because they could read better than me. This white wedding crap. My grandmother married a Hispanic man after my grandfather died. I will be careful to not use a derogatory word. People may fool you into that. I don’t like how Robin DiAngelo uses her education as a way to do blaming. I went to college in my forties. I like this lecture. Really I do. I am a rare blonde, brown eyed Jew. My great great grandfather was German and his wife was biracial. And I know that you are dying to call me racist because I am white. That being a descendant of a Native American, I have no right to be proud of that part of me because I don’t look Native American because that was far back. I saw a photo of my cousin and I mistakenly thought he was my father. I am very light complected and people make comments about it. White people make comments about my lighter skin and I claim lots of Irish.I remember watching a movie. These little girls were worried that the mean Irish kids were going to beat them up if they went to public school. I think they liked public school. I think that what would bring us together is to figure out what is good and the strong parts of everyone. That we are equal. I thought long and hard about whether I am a racist or not. I decided that if someone asked me if I like black people, I would say that I love black people. My sister adopted a biracial baby. I was overjoyed because I was finally an aunt. I was single. I was not supposed to have children because I was taking medication that would hurt my baby. I felt vulnerable most of my life. You might think that I am playing the race card. My great great grandmother was most likely half Abenaki. She was from Vermont. I have seen videos of people who look like a mixture of Abenaki and white like my great great grandmother. That’s why I wanted to explore. I ended up living in a neighborhood with a lot of black people, but that doesn’t mean that I am not prejudiced. But then again racism is different. Confusing enough, I am blonde, brown eyed and fair complected. I guess that there is something wrong. I am learning disabled. I was in a class with the majority was black in high school. In tenth grade, I went to private school because of my learning disability. I would have flunked out if it was a public high school. I wonder why I explain so much. Many people from my family were killed in concentration camps. I read Maus. There was a part where Art Spiegelman’s father was upset with his son for letting a black man in their car. Art’s father was a concentration camp survivor. Persecution doesn’t end racism. Jewish people can be racist. And Jewish people can be highly tolerant. My identity doesn’t define me. I like this lecture. It makes me think a lot. You can’t read my mind and I believe that anyone who reads this comment believes they can read my mind and understand me, but you can’t understand me.

[@arealisticexpectationpera]

The horrors of American Caucasians are not an individual and only case of horror. Race is a classification... so if you class someone by their race... you are making a racist classification.. how that plays out.. is up to you... she's just a rich white lady selling a dream to black people... that's the American dream

[@lemonlimelukey]

white fragility detected.

[@johntatum1951]

Yes, no reverse racism...just bad whites...blacks are all very unbiased...eh?

[@trotgun1563]

well said ! only thing she was right about ! people like her are cancer to our empire !

[@joenino3]

Finally, a video that doesn't have the comments disabled.

[@DrCruel]

The lesson of *The Music Man.* So long as we keep taking con artists and lunatics seriously, we'll get more of them.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

I can only assume you're referring to yourself. Because nobody is being conned by Dr Diangelo's credentials. You may feel uncomfortable, which you clearly are. But that doesn't mean you're being lied to. And the fact that you present zero credentials of your own, speaks volumes.

[@DrCruel]

@@vincentcerasoli5969 No, I'm referring to DiAngelo's race-baiting con game and the lowlifes who goad her on. Because you sound like one of her backup singers. And no, we do not need a monorail in River City.

[@DrCruel]

@@vincentcerasoli5969 _"For next-generation grifters such as Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo, to claim that America was, is and always will be racist means more than just speaking gigs and book sales. The solution for the pseudo-crises they invent is the mass re-education of self-confessional whites - with lucrative consulting fees for both and for thousands of others._ _America is systematically being conned by those who disguise their hypocrisy, who manipulate the guilt-ridden, who have no interest in solving America’s most dangerous problems and who get or stay rich by hyping an America in need of massive rebooting."_ *-Victor Davis Hanson,* "The systemic con game driving wokeism"

[@mostlyanchors168]

@@vincentcerasoli5969 Your response is ad hominem. It contributes nothing but the demonstration of your disdain for the other person, not so much about refuting the person’s statement.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

@@mostlyanchors168 Explain first how HIS comment is NOT ad hominem.

[@cultescapee8740]

I think this woman and Thomas Sowell need to sit down and talk...

[@jeremythompson5151]

Thomas Sowell would kill her with his stare

[@lesleykramer7207]

She'll first have to find a ladder long enough to reach Sowell in the "Sunken Place"

[@michaelboulware1240]

@@lesleykramer7207 Sunken Place Lol nobody caught your joke

[@silverjones2317]

He'll wipe the floor with her. She can't refuse otherwise she'll be called racist

[@a.i.8583]

@@lesleykramer7207 Evweebawdy wook at me...I made a Jawden Peew wefewence! I smawt becawse I watch twendy movies

[@rorybrown9750]

I'm from the UK and I've never heard such a load of old bollocks, thank you US for sending all this woke crap our way, the "Guardian" loves it!!

[@itsspiritual8645]

WOKE, WOKE, what's the big deal about WOKE? I woke up this morning and have been woking up for years. I was WOKE before WOKE was cool!

[@jeraldmcclainofficial6005]

It's always somebody who's unaffected by the problem who says "white fragility" isn't a problem.

[@itsspiritual8645]

@@jeraldmcclainofficial6005 That sounds RACIST! Define what a white person is for me!

[@jeraldmcclainofficial6005]

@@itsspiritual8645 A "white person" is somebody who's "not black." DUH.

[@itsspiritual8645]

@@jeraldmcclainofficial6005 Wow! I can see you're a real rocket scientist!

[@matheusi.s.2198]

The book name should be "my fragility". This is the nowadays Mein Kampf wrote by Adolph Karen.

[@preppychrisbou]

I agree, she tries to hide her racism by writing a book that’s racist directly on all white people (including herself) then on black people also by perpetuating racism.

[@9cgx]

The best characterization that I have found of not only the author but her "experiences" in her book.

[@emily-clibourn]

I was thinking the same thing! Seems like this is a personal testimony to her personal experience with racism - and she is so conceited to propose that she reflects every other white person. Insane.

[@debfletcherwins6488]

There goes the defensiveness! The title should be exactly what it is!!!

[@ainetmonroe]

@@debfletcherwins6488 I honestly am shocked that so many people take this as a personal attack when she seems to be speaking on the bigger picture. It’s seems for some of these people that it’s easier to discredit her than to acknowledge all the facts she states about the country. In my opinion, it’s very telling if someone is triggered by this. There’s a saying that a hit dog will holler 😕

[@eransasson20]

Friedrich Nietzsche: "Whoever lives for the sake of combating an enemy has an interest in the enemy's staying alive.”

[@Benjamin_Monnoyeur]

Well said.

[@Benjamin_Monnoyeur]

"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." F. Nietzsche.

[@lodz8666]

thank you white man for explaining so eloquent for us

[@martinpospisil3747]

@@lodz8666 Go back to your mud hut.

[@ericanderson8606]

It's almost parallel to Terrance McKenna's way of saying you can be someone's "loyal opponent"

[@jessegoldfinger5645]

Has anyone ever explained to her that correlation is not causation! She starts with the premise that white people are racist and then finds disparities in statistical outcomes for groups and concludes without presenting evidence that it is a result of her premise (white racists). That is a flawed argument... you need to actually prove that these disparities are a result of racism (her new definition of racism) instead of implying that it must be racism.

[@h2bfz098]

Let me take a wild guess in the dark, your black right?

[@jessegoldfinger5645]

@@h2bfz098 if you are asking if I'm black, I am not. I'm really not sure how that is relevant though as a logical fallacy isn't dependant on race. In this case DeAngelo is applying circular reasoning.

[@lenab.m.3708]

so she should ask every single white person and not just that TEST every white person for you to undertand?

[@jessegoldfinger5645]

@@lenab.m.3708 I honestly have no idea how you get that out of my comment. I certainly didn't imply that she needs to speak to every white person. I stated that she is making a circular argument and presents no evidence to demonstrate that the disparities that she is discussing are the result of racism. I can play this game as well The world was created by aliens. People exist in the world People were created by aliens This doesn't make the statement true...I would have to prove that my premise is in deed correct.

[@jamesandayladodge4815]

this is a basic tenant of rational thinking, correlation is not causation

[@anthonyspinelli3509]

She states he opinions and her experiences a “fact”.

[@AD-bb9np]

She also assumes skin color determines thought and personality

[@IvanRhudick]

It's almost as if she's done years of research involving copious empirical evidence.

[@AD-bb9np]

@@IvanRhudick, it’s almost as if you didn’t like your own nonsense comment

[@rustlecompton]

@@IvanRhudick social science is not empirical evidence

[@preppychrisbou]

She’s just racist.

[@farflownfalcon1076]

How can someone talk as long as she did without offering anything concrete towards making the world a better place?

[@MH-mc3pp]

ever watched a Donald Trump rally?

[@farflownfalcon1076]

@@MH-mc3pp Very true!!!

[@piterpraker3399]

@@MH-mc3pp Yeah. Lots of people having a good time without shame. This...is kinda gross.

[@wrestlar3246]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY you can’t make a statement and paint anybody that disagrees with that statement as fragile. Well, you can, but you’d look like an idiot

[@wrestlar3246]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY most of the comments are making fun of her absurd logic. The existence of racist people isn’t evidence for a inherit racism of an entire race. Her book is racist the most racist thing here, in the sense that it places white people at the center of the universe. What I mean by that is according to the book there is white, and there is everything else, and as a white person you have this inherit belief of superiority and it is your duty to recognize this to uplift the other races. She places an importance on white people as if “POC” are useless to help themselves. She portrays “poc” as a people in need of a white hand. That’s as racist as it gets in my eyes. She sees someone’s race immediately and makes generalizations about that person according to her own political agenda.

[@bobkaiser8782]

Lecturing people on their supposed "fragility" when she refuses to debate anyone.

[@LatterDaisySaint]

Because her entire argument is racist.

[@pokemasterx4244]

Because otherwise she wouldn't be rich

[@MH-mc3pp]

@@pokemasterx4244 correct

[@marcusdarden1535]

It seems like only White males want to debate her. Why is that? 🤔🤔🤔

[@MH-mc3pp]

@@marcusdarden1535 my understanding is that some people, like John McWhorter, Glenn Loury, Coleman Hughes would consider debating her, though I am not sure they would consider it worth their time given that she is so vacuous. They do all strongly disagree with her. Hughes actively sought to debate her partner in crime, Kendi, for example.

[@JohnnyBGood11]

Did you know if you jump from 7:08 to 56:29 I think she is still on the same sentence.

[@stellaboulton9531]

Brilliant!

[@davidlloyd-jones8519]

Here Ladies and Gentlemen - is an excellent example of someone with the privilege of being at the height of the racist/leftist/feminist hierarchy

[@pergamonrecordings]

More precisely she's a salon-progressive (or modern champagne-socialist) having the white privilege of uttering nonsense without repercussions. It's result doesn't really concern her -- earning lots of money and living in a great neighborhood -- and, OK, it does not help black single mothers getting by, but it DOES make white middle-class mothers feel less guilty about their privileges and money. So it turns out "white fragility" is just a phrase helping to organize conventions for white people to get white-privilege absolution -- about 6000$ an hour.

[@AD-bb9np]

She is simply a smug racist

[@peanutbutterjellytime6132]

Agreed. As a minority who disagrees with this baloney, it is not our voices that are heard. It is the voices of which u already pointed out.

[@peanutbutterjellytime6132]

@@pergamonrecordings spot on

[@ronarkom1611]

I love how comments are turned off on all her other videos. It may be her postmodernist bent which makes her not believe in discussion. Or, if it's people making nasty comments, then I would suggest to her not to write a book called 'White fragility'. Perhaps a better book title and subject would have been, 'my name is Robin, and I'm white and fragile. I'm also racist and guilty.' that title and subject would make the book far more legitimate, simply by not speaking for billions of other people she's never met and knows nothing about.

[@CourtneyHaynes]

I love how all of you hateful people prove her premise by swarming to her videos.

[@williamsutherland9669]

Did you get your Doctorate out of a cereal box?!

[@kienzle1]

Where did you get yours?

[@yyz125]

She actually is just generalizing and is evil at heart

[@-ucanthandledatruth01-12]

@@yyz125 evil? That's clear fragility displayed in your comment

[@Rjisawake]

@@-ucanthandledatruth01-12exactly lmao

[@Think-dont-believe]

15:32 humility she needs some She thinks she is the choir and the director She has zero ability to see herself. She states she couldn’t earlier in life and she still can not

[@TONYBLACKLEGACY]

she is right 100% lol see all those fragile commenters bellow

[@meganevans839]

They showed someone actually taking notes during that comment. What doorknobs these pathetic people are 🤦‍♀️

[@stellaboulton9531]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY Really bellowing. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. How dare they. lol

[@EyebelieveTheNarrative]

Department of race and equality, right across the hall from the ministry of silly walks

[@gerhardtblume7354]

Absolutely! Btw, love Israel too! (I’m not Jewish.) The lies and hypocrisy of Critical Race Theory: A number of very distinguished Black intellectuals, while acknowledging the obvious reality of previous systemic oppression, deny its active presence today in their ‘lived experience’. What do the proponents of “standpoint epistemology” have to say about these critics of the oppression narrative and their situated perspectives? They invalidate them. They are ‘diagnosed’ as having a false consciousness, having internalized White oppression, or they are condemned as, amongst other things, being race-traitors, native informants or uncle Toms. These attacks are morally appalling. A number of these intellectual giants actually grew up under conditions of real racial bigotry and oppression. As should be obvious, this ‘anti-racist’ language is the language of racism. It can only foster racial polarization and division. For the critical race theorist, your moral worth is explicitly a function of your place in the racial hierarchy. Quite transparently, they take the racist Nazi’s racial hierarchy and simply invert it. Where blacks were once at the alleged bottom, based on specious racial grounds, now they are at its apex. Whites, in this revaluation of values, are now at the bottom. ‘Whiteness’ is now a sin. Notice here a certain ‘paradox’. Somehow, privileged whites have nevertheless managed to assume lucrative roles in the vanguard of this movement. Although they are white, ‘they are allies’. They remain powerful and exert disproportionate authority. Robin DiAngelo, author of “White Fragility”, makes truck loads of money telling white people just how racist they are. Of course she is too but ‘she’s doing the work’, while depositing her cheques… Needless to say, it won’t be the children of these privileged elites who are denied access to elite universities or face significant disadvantage in the employment market. After all, they are members of ‘ the cultural elite’. Remember the Harvard admissions scandal? This demonstrates the level of hypocrisy to which the powerful will stoop when it’s their children’s futures at stake. All of a sudden, ‘equity’ isn’t even an afterthought.) Hope you’ll check out my book “Deconstructing Social Justice”. It will explain the cultural Marxist logic behind this ideology and expose its lies and misrepresentations.

[@SamIAmB]

Why anyone would take cues on racial relations from an admitted racist is absolutely bewildering to me. And more than a few POC feel some of these concepts sell them short & even infantilizes them to an extent.

[@daniellove162]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY - Thank you for your internet opinion.

[@cancelled148]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY your opinion is irrelevant. 💞💔

[@superredhawk1741]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY Making the same stupid, ignorant comment over and over doesn't make it true. It just exposes your inability to come up with a cogent argument.

[@TONYBLACKLEGACY]

@@superredhawk1741 next time you talk be on the topic or shut up. your like a damb child who bud in to grown folks talking.

[@QuatMan]

Alternatively, more than a few POC agree with her 150%. Be sure to tell the whole story.

[@sarinat3101]

Consulting: when you're not part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem

[@davidkaiser]

A great class in self-hatred.

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Or a great class in become self-aware. Only insecure people will feel guilty when called "privileged". As for myself I KNOW I am privileged. I have a healthy body and a healthy mind. I can walk normally. I can read and write. I have a bed to sleep on, a roof over my head, and clothes to wear. You BETTER BELIEVE that I am privileged! And I CELEBRATE IT and I am THANKFUL for it!

[@jimmymags6516]

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y That's not exactly a privilege . Being healthy , having a roof over your head etc.. is available to many in this world . That would mean it's not a privilege that's exclusive to you , or your tribe .

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

@@jimmymags6516 Being healthy isn't a privilege???? Go to any rehabilitation center, and ask a recent accident victim, who is now a quadriplegic if being able to walk, feed yourself, bathe yourself, or scratch your face when you have an itch isn't a privilege. Go ask them if even the simplest of tasks, such as using the bathroom with the body parts that you were born with isn't a privilege. Yeah, people who take these things for granted don't consider these things privileges until they actually LOSE THE ABILITY to do those things themselves. ONLY THEN do they realize how lucky they were. As for myself, I KNOW I AM PRIVILEGED. And I feel both blessed and EXTREMELY thankful that I can walk, have full function of my arms, legs, hands, feet, etc. I am thankful that I have a healthy heart, lungs, kidneys, eyes, etc. I am PRIVILEGED beyond belief.

[@leoneguardo905]

@@user-sg8kq7ii3yyou have room temperature IQ….you aren’t privileged.

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

@@leoneguardo905 Oh, I'm very privileged and thankful to have basic things in my life. But people like you feel guilty when you're called "privileged" because you lack confidence in yourself. As for me, I know I'm privileged. I'm extremely privileged. And I'm thankful for being privileged. People in the United States piss and crap in toilets that contain cleaner water than the water that people in other parts of the world DRINK. Let that sink in for a moment.

[@lynnb2562]

This woman is guilty of the biggest logical fallacies of all time, not the least of which is circular logic and it is sad to see so many people follow her blindly.

[@interstateneek]

Your just another white person in denial it's so sad how your people think.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

I'm not white, but some of my best friends are, and they're NOT racist. It's sad how Robin thinks all white people are racist just because she is. 🤷🏾‍♀️😞 She was scared of Black people who were just having a party in the park! (story from her book, which I read) Just like Amy Cooper or Barbecue Becky.🤦🏾‍♀️

[@pneumanaut1]

@@zxyatiywariii8 Just a suggestion - the way she defines racism kind of gives a different slant on this. I personally believe that 'race' and 'racism' are not fact but a white construct created for the purpose of separating and setting up for a 'winner' and losers in this thing called 'race'. However, the way she defines and 'unpacks' the term race and supremacy do not follow what we most define as such. For example - her defining of racism follows: it occurs when a racial group's prejudice (which we all have) is backed by legal authority and institutional control. Racism is a system and comes from there. She highlights just how much of the system is led and established by white people, and it is eye-opening. So ... in that way - yes, we/white people are racist. Not because we do bad things but because we benefit from the established system we live in. We are part of the group that runs this society. It's a fascinating book. The point she makes is that it is primarily for white people to turn the microscope on themselves. It's a topic WE (as a white woman) need to talk with others like us. Our experience of life is very different than yours, and I can see that now. I might not deliberately do horrible racist (aka 'bad') things, but my life isn't more difficult because of my skin colour and what am I doing to help break down that instutional, rooted in the system, white-prompted world. I might not do 'racist' things, but what am I doing to affect positive change? That's what she challenges people like her. It's about self-reflection, about self-awareness, And, from it, I believe in being challenged, in being shown a better way, in having an opinion but also having others encourage me to grow more and learn more and develop more ... on all my opinions. Including those that include people like me ... and people who are not like me. I can only ask all my fellow people to do the same with themselves.

[@pamalabotts7162]

@@zxyatiywariii8 Your comments only serve to validate her research. Keep it going please !!

[@pamalabotts7162]

@@pneumanaut1 Great analysis and I applaud you for the self reflection pass that on to your friends maybe just maybe there is hope for a cure to racism and white supremacy its an ugly reality...

[@stevenk-brooks6852]

"I am a sociologist, a social scientist, so I am qualified to stereotype you according to your group. We have a million example of White Fragility. You disagree? You fail to admit your racism? That only proves that you are racist... now we have a million and one examples!"

[@elliottbrown1329]

@@thundermarkperun1083 You said: "As someone who grew up largely in Rural America after coming to this country, I can relate. Poverty is colorblind." And yet here you are acting like a racist jerk. Couldn't you do that in whatever sh!thole country you originated from?

[@fshstksmoneybags5086]

I'm a white man being oppressed by bills I can barely afford. Can I get some help and narrative as well?? Seriously though

[@adriancastillo1957]

This woman has some serious self loathing.. yikes

[@pamalabotts7162]

Your comments only validate her research. Keep it going !!

[@adriancastillo1957]

@@pamalabotts7162 Right, just like a Christian would say "you don't believe in the bible because you are spiritually blind and love your sin, therefor that proves you are sinner and the bible correct." That's the issue with subjective, unfalsifiable philosophies being peddled as truth. Worse yet, using them to shape culture and law. The reality of racial grievances no more proves her ideological assertions than evil in the world validates a Christian's claim that an invisible spirit named the devil is the cause. And like the religions of the past CRT has already created fanatics, hysteria, and witch hunts based on feelings and perceptions, not intent or reality. She's a cultist and an academic fraud. And like Creed Bratton says, " you have more fun as a follower of a cult, but as a leader you make more money." And boy does she.

[@pamalabotts7162]

@@adriancastillo1957 As I have said and I will say it again you only validate her research. The vitriol that you spew calling names and defining others based on your myopic world view only validates her research. Sadly, your so self absorbed and narcistic you can't conceive your posturing and finger pointing as a position of supremacy. Its your paternalistic view or nothing at all your way or no way. That is the epitome of a racist, white is right, elitist, exclusionary world view. Keep it going please...

[@adriancastillo1957]

@@pamalabotts7162 ​ Not sure if you noticed my last name but I'm Mexican so if you're able to think off script for a second you may recognize that disagreeing with the philosophical and ideological framework of CRT has nothing to do with racism and is simply a challenge to what I see as poor ideas and faulty thinking. That actually is the biggest red flag. Shielding yourself from challenges and critique buy suggesting that anyone that calls you out for your shit ideas is automatically a "racist". it's intellectually cheap and the hallmark of religious fanatics. And that's a great place to begin to understand the academic deficiency in a philosophy. " When they equate challenges and critiques as immoral acts, you're dealing with dogmatic puritan orthodoxy. Fervently disagreeing is how you separate the wheat from the Chaffe. Youre SUPPOSED to exclude ideas... that's how it works.. that's how I know the moon isnt made of cheese, I EXCLUDED a bad idea.It's a challenge of ideas, not feelings. And I don't feel bad about disliking DiAngelo and calling her out, or calling her a cultist. she's a public figure who is selling these ideas on the stage of public discourse. It's not my way or no way, but she is making a lot of assertions with no verification that her view is grounded in reality. The burden of proof is on her to prove her case, not for me to accept it without question or be labeled a racist. Also, if you are going to claim the moral high ground and clutch your pearls about "vitriol: and "name calling" and "labeling don't immediately do those very things. I targeted a public figure pitching the ideas, and didn't call you anything. Yet you labeled me some horrible shit for having the audacity to not swallow what this loon is selling.

[@AD-bb9np]

@@pamalabotts7162, are you racist?

[@lodz8666]

all the racists in the comment section were to be expected. She perfectly predicted the racists comments and white fragility. it is like a script

[@MrSk8ingrules]

RIGHT???!!!!!!

[@joes2857]

I will never apologize for my skin color.

[@ippothedestroyer]

Same,no one should.I'm not even white but i don't anyone to apologize for something they have no control over.

[@iaiahaja922]

Lmao what

[@erinlevere6881]

No one asked you to lol you got triggered by the truth

[@DrBe-zn5fv]

nor relative lack of any

[@protectionplustv7172]

@@erinlevere6881 truth my ass!

[@jessica2575]

Glad she brought up colorism

[@WordsofHarmony]

blacknight39 check your facts black men have higher rates of dating and marrying outside of their race especially if they are wealthy. Check the rap lyrics...and current rap culture. You can fool yourself but you dont fool people who have sense and check the numbers

[@brodypenn]

Imagine showing this lady photos from a loved ones funeral, and as you're trying to keep your compassion and not burst into tears, she just goes "yep exactly as I thought, mostly white people."

[@ainetmonroe]

It seems you took this as a personal attack instead of getting the whole picture. Do you disagree with everything she said

[@AJ-qi5tm]

@Brody Penn you’re exhibiting the traits that white people have and that Robyn is talking about - fragility. You have enjoyed a privileged status your whole life based on your whiteness. You need to accept it and understand it

[@serpentines6356]

AJ...Hahaha...Robin is full of bs.

[@martinpospisil3747]

@@AJ-qi5tm After being a marxist for a couple years I observed what kinda people gravitate towards race marxism. Usually its the unemployed people with no goals in life. What they are left with is blaming others for their shortcoming. I was in the same place as you I believe hating white race and blaming them for everything will result in utopia where everyone is happy and that somehow all bad things will go away. But than I realized that my own happiness dependes solely on me and being a victim is a dead end. Sadly many weak young people chose this path of self descrution and rampant victimhood. Find a way my friend its never too late.

[@-ucanthandledatruth01-12]

@@martinpospisil3747 realising you are a victim is the only way to stop abuse. What other victims do you suggest they ignore what made them victims in the first place and how it effects them?

[@robertforrester4915]

During this meeting there are some Lonely cats at home alone!!!

[@cduncan8852]

I have been looking and cannot find a single debate or conversation Robin DiAngelohas has had with someone who opposes her viewpoint. Surely she is brave enough and has the conviction to try this and I just can't find video/audio of it. Could someone please direct me in the appropriate direction.

[@cduncan8852]

@Michael O’Neil That was kinda my point

[@cduncan8852]

@Michael O’Neil I should be more specific. A scientific hypothesis is useless if it cannot be tested. In the same way, what good is an idea - or in this case the misapplication of a post-modernist idea - if it cannot be critiqued, debated and discussed in in an open and honest way?

[@therealbs2000]

@@cduncan8852 "a scientific hypothesis is useless if it cannot be tested." is it really? get outta here with that "white impericism" lol

[@stellaboulton9531]

cduncan I was wondering exactly the same thing and have been looking for her in debate with an alternative thinker. Unsuccessfully so far.

[@Woke-Fact-checked]

I’m a white male that doesn’t find it hard to talk about racism. I found this video hoping it would be informative but it’s complete garbage shock factor to sell a book.

[@dman1327]

When you can't get a real job you go around writing about your own personal issues. Meanwhile other immigrants and Asians keep coming here and becoming surgeons and business owners while these dictator professors keep "speaking" in auditoriums to justify their doctorate pay.

[@YolandaArrey]

The arrogance is only proving her point

[@nunayoorbidnez2119]

Diangelo is a scammer. Only a scammer says "You're guilty. And your denial of guilt is proof that you're guilty."

[@artis1969]

@@ts8404 She's being exposed for what she is.

[@jimmymags6516]

Salem witch trials .

[@TheZodiacz]

Reminds me of the other so called intellectuals in the 1990s who tore families apart with their satanic panic bullshit. this racist bitch is tearing America apart with her lies.

[@SilentMott]

Not only that, in her book she claims you can never NOT be racist. You were born and will die racist. She's even selling her own bible, AHEM I mean book. Sound familiar?

[@mademsoisellerhapsody1868]

well, my mom used to pull that one as well

[@rustlecompton]

Replace the word white in her rhetoric with Jewish and she sounds exactly like 1920-30's Europeans

[@andrewclapham6364]

There are many Charlatans who make a mint from others misery........ is she one of them?

[@DrBe-zn5fv]

nicely put. .. one remembers the Soros in his youth

[@badqirl86Ox]

@@thundermarkperun1083 I guess you didnt watch the video your white fragility is showing LOL 😝

[@rustlecompton]

@@badqirl86Ox no he just realizes who the real racists are: anyone who buys into identity politics

[@piterpraker3399]

@@badqirl86Ox Holy shit. That was stupid.

[@Journeybacktoself]

The lone clapper❤️

[@ShanikaB]

Says everything lol

[@andrescardenas2827]

i have the clap...is that the same ?

[@ShanikaB]

@@andrescardenas2827 not quite

[@christine0513]

I'm here sis..👏

[@jamespeck276]

The best part was that person kept clapping for awhile. Some courage is all it takes.

[@cindy-jc2do]

seriousely

[@louisdresse8650]

Dr Di Angelo makes a lot of money on culpabilizing us. I am not that masochist to buy that.

[@chelbriria]

Sound kicks in at 7:52

[@karenorlowski9524]

Thank you!! I was wondering what was going on.

[@MiracleManifestor]

Grady Baby Lol, thank you....I was almost out of here

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Thank you! 😘

[@MrKavaske]

TERRIBLE SOUND ENGINEERING😊

[@bradleyjamesatchley5335]

When does the common sense kick in?

[@Tinfoilpain]

if any of the white people commenting so furiously on this would listen to the actual lecture they might find out how fragile they are and be able to do something about it.

[@trystdodge6177]

like what?

[@Tinfoilpain]

@@trystdodge6177 literally watch the video? Your question doesn't make any sense.

[@trystdodge6177]

@@Tinfoilpain the question answers itself. there is nothing of substance in this video. circular logic throughout. junk reasoning, tantamount to fronology. cause she is a racist she believes all white people are racist.

[@Rob-eo5ql]

So virtuous

[@luigib7311]

So virtuous. And she wants EVERYONE to know.

[@DrCruel]

And pay her for consults. And buy her book.

[@redherronrecords]

When white fragilty is all through the comments on a video about white fragility that's some lolz.

[@AprilHare]

This lady is perpetuating the Divide of this country with her dis-info. She is being racist by thinking she knows what and how every white person has gone through.

[@dudeohyeahable]

police brutal response to protest on police brutality.

[@adhdlivingyourdreams9515]

Technically this idea is based on black fragility

[@a.ros12]

@@adhdlivingyourdreams9515 Yikes

[@wrarriorclass8549]

@@AprilHare she explain you. Ha ha

[@seehumor2647]

Ahh, she uses the oldest trick in the book “if you don’t agree with or deny someone thing I said about you, it means you are that thing”. So basically impossible to counter. Got it.

[@MH-mc3pp]

and ppl pay the big bucks. reminds me of every televangelist asshole out there

[@seehumor2647]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY Her definition of "fragile" is actually NOT engaging in conversation, precisely the opposite of the comments you are referring to. It's sad that you are defending a white racist who labels yourself as inferior, disadvantaged, and powerless simply because of your skin color. I condemn all of that; don't let her tricks work on you.

[@seehumor2647]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY What does any of what you're talking about have to do with my comment or what Rob'n D-Angelo is talking about? It's very confusing how by myself calling Rob'n D'Angelo a racist for generalizing Black people and viewing them as inferior - makes me one. I do not claim white supremacy or privilege, which are the same thing. My son is mixed - I am not teaching him that white people have advantages over him or have "privilege" - that is disempowering to him. Nothing good comes out of that sort of thinking. And yes there are things that disproprtionally affect Black people and/or people in poverty sure, I'm not denying that. I discuss this on my main channel in a racism series I did if you want to check it out - kzbin.info/door/72WILl04krYDnBZr6CCaeA

[@thischarminglovehound2376]

Its called kafka trapping.

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

She's right, I'm glad white people are talking about it now, because I'm tired of the one being on the other side of white fragility. White people are more likely to listen to a white lady.

[@Fromard]

I'm really glad that this book was written. It will be an excellent source, in the future, to study hysteria's and racial thought in this century. Her argument, by it's nature, is racist. If all whites are racist then all blacks, Hispanics and Inuits are also racist. If the argument is made that, that is not the case then you are saying that people are not equal and that they are not equal by virtue of their race.

[@nontologicalbeing]

You had me going in the first part, haha, and you are correct that she is a racist against her own race by her argument. But she can stand up there and spew such shit with an eager audience because it’s not just that all white people are racist, it’s now that it is okay (even applauded) to be racist towards white people. People like this sack of neuroses don’t even have to formulate a good argument because the punchline is always “white people bad,” and everyone knows this to be true. That’s why I’m not so sure if, in the future, this book will be read as an example of race hysteria or as one of the 100 Greatest Works of the 21st Century.

[@richardmunsch8127]

It can be handy. It's like having access to Valerie Solanas's feminist equivalent to Mein Kampf, the S.C.U.M. Manifesto (society for cutting up men). People can see and recognize the patterns of hate coming from these people and recognize it in the future.

[@dman1327]

When you can't get a real job you go around writing about your own personal issues. Meanwhile other immigrants and Asians keep coming here and becoming surgeons and business owners while these dictator professors keep "speaking" in auditoriums to justify their doctorate pay.

[@Fromard]

@@dman1327 Race hustling is good business now-a-days.

[@artgurrl]

Yes all you said is true. And her books will make good toilet paper for many years in the future.

[@Kathifern]

Every time she sneaks in an ugly generalisation, accusation of guilt.. or nasty dismissal, it’s with humour. Has anyone read her book? Does it also use humour to mask these arguments?

[@jamesandayladodge4815]

no humor in that rag

[@sisterpamop]

No.

[@beeawesome2869]

I might be fragile but it has absolutly nothing to do with anyone's skin color. It's just a disability that i have. There are struggles that go beyond skin color.

[@user-iu3cy2tx3c]

We are all fragile - it’s called having a pulse! She is a narcissistic robot!

[@donovanmezzanine5562]

@@user-iu3cy2tx3c lmaoooo

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

Not all white people are fragile but most are, just mentioning race around them is triggering. Their eyes go dead and you know they're not listening to anything you say or they get openly defensive and start naming all the non-whites they know, like a sexist pointing out he has a wife and daughter. Glad white people are trying to wake other whites up.

[@DrCruel]

Not if you're a socialist. Your problems matter only if they help pay for a progressive's beach house.

[@stevenrichardson1843]

This solves my puzzle regarding the success of Fifty Shades of Grey : I've been a bad girl, spank me! Diangelo is a masochist.

[@hollybigelow5337]

Summarizing Robin DiAngelo's position - At some point in my life I suddenly realized I am quite racist. The only way I could accept this fact about myself was if I could also believe that ALL white people are racist, and most white people are even more racist than me. I did zero research to determine if it was actually true. I simply assumed that because I wanted it to be true it must be true. I created an entire system based on that assumption, and now I make tons of money lecturing around the world off of that system. In other words, I have found an amazing way to get rich and become famous because I am unapologetically racist.

[@lucianomezzetta4332]

Robin is another cringe in the long line of American con artists.

[@rocky6893]

So many people trigger in these comments 😳😬😕, Must be some facts to the conclusion

[@Grequierecafe]

Yeah, as I watch this session, I have been here before. --She's right about the cradle to grave segregation.

[@christine0513]

Deep...

[@BlackPhi1ip]

That reminds me of a great book, Every Cradle is a Grave.

[@zeenuf00]

mostly self- imposed segregation brought on by stupid decisions

[@topgurl9313]

I was worried the sound quality of the video would never get better haha. Thank goodness it did

[@stellaboulton9531]

That's highly debatable.

[@worldmadjoshglad4527]

can we get a list of what substances this woman is taking?

[@-ucanthandledatruth01-12]

@Cameron Cameron yeah type in "racism and narcissism" by Richard Grannon

[@darryl1378]

I believe that Neely Fuller Jr. was the first person to say that racism is a system. According to Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, Neely Fuller Jr. was saying this back in the 1960's.

[@louisdresse8650]

The fight against racism must be universal and inclusive, not by culpabilizing whites.

[@QuatMan]

But they created the concept of race to benefit themselves. Her approach is only logical.

[@davidjeanmichel8358]

@@QuatMan the concept of race was progressiv in he's historic context, in arab world blacks were not inferior humans but animals. race theorist upgrad blacks to inferiors humans.

[@QuatMan]

@@davidjeanmichel8358 In the Americas, white people created the concept of race to discuss nonwhites, and cannot stand to be included in discussions about it. It seems they are sensitive to have their skeletons drug out of the closet.

[@davidjeanmichel8358]

@@QuatMan the concept of race say we are all humans but not all equal. it was an historic upgrad when you watch the rest of the world.

[@davidjeanmichel8358]

@@QuatMan and in fact america today only criticize whites for race, it's the only peoples you can criticize directly for what they are. what i find fun is the fact it's in fact blacks peoples who are over sensitiv when you tell them it's french and british colonialism who end interafrican slavetrade and arab slavetrade and stop the fact slavery was the basis of social order in africa. another thing they don't like is when you say the truth about the fact that the contact between europa and africa is the origin of the biggest economic, technologic and medical boom this continent had in all he's history.

[@joecliffordson]

10 minutes in I wondered what a discussion between Jordan Peterson and the good doctor would be like????

[@Maridun50]

I'd love to see that.

[@Purple_911]

He would make her burst into flames solely with words.

[@the_court_jester666]

I think even darryl davis, even after convincing those 100 kkk members, couldn't convince this lady.

[@Maridun50]

@@the_court_jester666 Of course not - she got stinking rich of anti-white racism. But that doesn't matter - it will convince thousands of others listening to the sense of dr. Peterson as opposed to her crap........

[@donovanmezzanine5562]

Jordan Peterson would have a nervous breakdown after 5 min lol

[@pichart]

Absolute insanity.

[@shecreates365]

really, why?

[@Svarog11]

I am French and a fascist. What this woman is saying is incredible. I agree with her and suddenly I take notes because her hierarchy of races is a good thing!

[@the_court_jester666]

😂

[@simonsharp3319]

yep - if you were wanting to learn how to be an actual racist she is a pretty good primer.

[@hockeygirl8401]

Well your honesty is refreshing

[@memyselfi7292]

@@simonsharp3319 accurate.

[@luthientinuviel2823]

😂😂😂

[@_Sakidora_]

I do hope she’s personally funding reparations from her enormous speaking fees, especially as she’s doing a black person’s job lecturing white people about how racist they are.

[@liisashangheta3788]

I don't want to teach white people on racism, it's emotionally draining to teach people about racism and some hardly listen anyway. I would rather a white person teach other white people or have more white people talk about racism.

[@donovanmezzanine5562]

Why is that a black persons job? Do you hear yourself?? Lol

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

It's not the job of the persecuted minority to prove their humanity, it's done out of necessity, white people need to be more open to it so that they can get better, it's white people that need to change for systemic change to occur, because y'all have the most power in this society.

[@alcovefib]

Money, money, money Must be funny In the rich man's world...

[@noemivarga4366]

Just would like to extend my gratitude to Dr DiAngelo for not reproducing and passing down her masochistic genes.

[@erinlevere6881]

Most people got defensive in a lot of these comments because what she is saying is true and it's a uncomfortable truth.

[@markmaximus100]

People get defensive because she's spreading a falsity. Saying "all white people are racist" is the same thing as saying "all black people are XYZ". Or "all jewish people are smart" (a sentiment used by Nazis). This is how racist tropes get generated.

[@erinlevere6881]

@@markmaximus100 no she is just saying that white people are born into a world that tells them they are superior to other races of people. So they walk through life with bias and prejudices of people of color. She spoke in detail why this is so even saying it applies to herself as well.

[@erinlevere6881]

@Antoine Wilson what she said was true. White Americans at least are born into a world that tells them they are superior most all the tv shows people watch our political world is mostly all white. Everything in this country and even more so in the past. So white people can't help that they were born into that. But because of that the way of thinking is not into tune with people of color. Thinking if you put one "black friend" in any group some how that's diversity smh and it's a whole frame of mind.

[@erinlevere6881]

@Antoine Wilson if you paid attention to what I said and not look for little things to try to dismiss everything she said you would realize that what I said all ties into it. If most shows and popular children things and teachers in schools and people of power in general are white than all children notice that and use that as a frame of reference. So yes it’s true

[@erinlevere6881]

@Antoine Wilson sweetheart first of all she didn't say white children notice it she said all children notice it. But you heard what I said and what I said is true stop micromanaging one point and look at the bigger picture if you aren’t afraid to see it.

[@davidjohns4745]

I thought I was white until I looked at a piece of paper !

[@wrarriorclass8549]

God help us.all. God hear our tears

[@PhreshKartel2]

White tears lol

[@debfletcherwins6488]

@@PhreshKartel2 What are white tears?

[@gerhardtblume7354]

This is poisonous nonsense. The lies and hypocrisy of Critical Race Theory: A number of very distinguished Black intellectuals, while acknowledging the obvious reality of previous systemic oppression, deny its active presence today in their ‘lived experience’. What do the proponents of “standpoint epistemology” have to say about these critics of the oppression narrative and their situated perspectives? They invalidate them. They are ‘diagnosed’ as having a false consciousness, having internalized White oppression, or they are condemned as, amongst other things, being race-traitors, native informants or uncle Toms. These attacks are morally appalling. A number of these intellectual giants actually grew up under conditions of real racial bigotry and oppression. As should be obvious, this ‘anti-racist’ language is the language of racism. It can only foster racial polarization and division. For the critical race theorist, your moral worth is explicitly a function of your place in the racial hierarchy. Quite transparently, they take the racist Nazi’s racial hierarchy and simply invert it. Where blacks were once at the alleged bottom, based on specious racial grounds, now they are at its apex. Whites, in this revaluation of values, are now at the bottom. ‘Whiteness’ is now a sin. Notice here a certain ‘paradox’. Somehow, privileged whites have nevertheless managed to assume lucrative roles in the vanguard of this movement. Although they are white, ‘they are allies’. They remain powerful and exert disproportionate authority. Robin DiAngelo, author of “White Fragility”, makes truck loads of money telling white people just how racist they are. Of course she is too but ‘she’s doing the work’, while depositing her cheques… Needless to say, it won’t be the children of these privileged elites who are denied access to elite universities or face significant disadvantage in the employment market. After all, they are members of ‘ the cultural elite’. Remember the Harvard admissions scandal? This demonstrates the level of hypocrisy to which the powerful will stoop when it’s their children’s futures at stake. All of a sudden, ‘equity’ isn’t even an afterthought.) Hope you’ll check out my book “Deconstructing Social Justice”. It will explain the cultural Marxist logic behind this ideology and expose its lies and misrepresentations.

[@Wrahns]

The modern day Kobyashi Maru, your guilty by birth and you can’t atone for it ever no matter what you do..... Thank god for the Grievance Studies Affair scholars for exposing this poison for what it is.

[@emilyeerosew]

All the suffering and oppression she just said and you're saying poor whites wow!!

[@SG-hf8pj]

My frustration is I would like to get to work building a better future/America and comments like this only push the divide. You can disagree but questions, curiosity and compassion go a long way especially considering context and history. We are speaking about lives, and feelings of our actual countrymen on both sides and how to heal. Lets all at least respect the importance of that and what it means to share a country and future together.

[@emilyeerosew]

@@SG-hf8pj only work to divide? Or put into words the lived inequalities etc inherent in the system. Naming cancer does not make you sick

[@SG-hf8pj]

@@emilyeerosew But even with cancer improper treatment can make you worse. We have diagnosed but I am not sure we are always prescribing correctly and I fully include myself. Comments on both sides of the divide can contribute to misunderstanding and as helpful as a quip can be for making us feel better racism takes sustained engagement to even make an inch of progress. The quips only serve to make people more angry and hunker down. I do it also but I'm trying to get better. I believe I was responding to both posters above you more than you though despite the order of the messages.

[@marcusdarden1535]

Who said that there is no atonement? The atonement is in the understanding and acknowledgement of the racist history of this country and the individuals complicity in racism, combined with the cessation/ending of those complicit behaviors.

[@ToastyCoClothing]

ill get my manager...

[@jnpSacto]

Robin DiAngelo: "To be raised WHITE is to be functionally ILLITERATE on the topic of RACE" Robin DiAngelo: "I AM WHITE." Oh, the irony here is thick.

[@9cgx]

She says stuff like this out loud and receives thunderous applause... Crazy times

[@marcusdarden1535]

She became literate through decades of study.

[@bidenneedshisbuttwiped]

@@marcusdarden1535 Decades of studying means nothing if your conclusions are false.

[@marcusdarden1535]

@@bidenneedshisbuttwiped which conclusions are false?

[@mrglasses8953]

she isn't though

[@BH4LF]

Living in WisconsinDells, WI where the population is 90% white, the Native Americans in my community truly struggle with this very topic every day‼️

[@Sinaduel]

Racism is simply treating others differently based on skin color. If skin color doesnt play into how you act, then the answer is obvious. I grew up on welfare to a single mom and was berated by the very church we went to for not having a father. I was berated for being poor.

[@donirae7926]

Golden rule, treat others the way you want to be treated. Racism problem solved

[@lisaleopold3852]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY but she not. That’s the issue and making lots of money doing it. She plays on peoples good will.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

I don't know your race (and have no need or reason to ask), but you don't think white people were berated for being poor? Also, don't you believe it's possible that you perceived things incorrectly? Maybe being poor wasn't the reason. Maybe you weren't actually berated, but misconstrued the person/ people and their treatment of you. Even if what you stated is absolute fact, what I'm saying happens all the time. Many times throughout society, people are hurt or offended by what they PERCEIVED other people were saying or meant (even if that was not actually their intention/ meaning/ or what they said at all).

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

@@donirae7926 Reperations too since the Government never bothered to try and do anything about the systemically racist society and institutions they developed.

[@gerhardtblume7354]

Absolutely! The lies and hypocrisy of Critical Race Theory: A number of very distinguished Black intellectuals, while acknowledging the obvious reality of previous systemic oppression, deny its active presence today in their ‘lived experience’. What do the proponents of “standpoint epistemology” have to say about these critics of the oppression narrative and their situated perspectives? They invalidate them. They are ‘diagnosed’ as having a false consciousness, having internalized White oppression, or they are condemned as, amongst other things, being race-traitors, native informants or uncle Toms. These attacks are morally appalling. A number of these intellectual giants actually grew up under conditions of real racial bigotry and oppression. As should be obvious, this ‘anti-racist’ language is the language of racism. It can only foster racial polarization and division. For the critical race theorist, your moral worth is explicitly a function of your place in the racial hierarchy. Quite transparently, they take the racist Nazi’s racial hierarchy and simply invert it. Where blacks were once at the alleged bottom, based on specious racial grounds, now they are at its apex. Whites, in this revaluation of values, are now at the bottom. ‘Whiteness’ is now a sin. Notice here a certain ‘paradox’. Somehow, privileged whites have nevertheless managed to assume lucrative roles in the vanguard of this movement. Although they are white, ‘they are allies’. They remain powerful and exert disproportionate authority. Robin DiAngelo, author of “White Fragility”, makes truck loads of money telling white people just how racist they are. Of course she is too but ‘she’s doing the work’, while depositing her cheques… Needless to say, it won’t be the children of these privileged elites who are denied access to elite universities or face significant disadvantage in the employment market. After all, they are members of ‘ the cultural elite’. Remember the Harvard admissions scandal? This demonstrates the level of hypocrisy to which the powerful will stoop when it’s their children’s futures at stake. All of a sudden, ‘equity’ isn’t even an afterthought.) Hope you’ll check out my book “Deconstructing Social Justice”. It will explain the cultural Marxist logic behind this ideology and expose its lies and misrepresentations.

[@a.ros12]

If you're offended by this, maybe you should go around and send this video to and conduct a survey amongst all the black and brown people you know and ask them what they think based on their lived experience.

[@macdermesser]

The host/moderator is in the "Department of Race and Equity." That puts me on alert, right off the bat.

[@macdermesser]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY No fragility here, pal. And I don't find it especially difficult nor uncomfortable to talk about racism, so she's not right 100% of the time. In that regard, let me say that racism is disgusting in any form, including the anti-white variety that manifests itself in people who push the dumb but evil concept of white fragility that some poor souls actually buy into.

[@macdermesser]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY I'm not seeing it. The criticisms made of this woman here seem pretty accurate to me. Does denying the truth of what she says equate to white fragility? I suppose it depends on exactly how you define "white fragility."

[@macdermesser]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY If you say something unflattering about some folks and they deny it, and you have "predicted" that they would deny it and said that this denial is proof your theory is right, that sure does NOT prove you were correct. It's amazing anyone could get caught up in this fallacy loop. There are privileged white people (and black people, and asian people, etc.), but being white does not mean one has been privileged. Whites are among those who have been oppressed by the same mechanisms that oppress people of other races. IMO, you need to let go of the "what goes around, comes around" attitude. "The Man" oppresses people, and today he is not necessarily of any particular race, or gender.

[@lisaleopold3852]

@@TONYBLACKLEGACY she is a race hustler making money by distorting history (inaccuracy in her own book) and manipulating peoples emotions. She denies the role of individuality and personal responsibility. Racism is something every person is capable of but not everyone is racist. It promotes divisions and all the while she profits from this cult.

[@TONYBLACKLEGACY]

@@lisaleopold3852 you dont get what she is saying she telling you your raised in a racist system. you have privelege and dont see it as the majority. not understanding what you say and do toward others can be racist. when you cant admit we live in a racist system you support it and i mite assume your racist but its just ignorance. im a black man and have seen racist actions in my life and so have my whole family and friends we all have storys. you are not a individual you live in a system created by others who were white supremist slave owners. my white friends can admit they live in a racist system even if they dont know how deep the rabbit hole goes.

[@jacobdavis9547]

Lmao a white woman wrote this?! I had no idea hahaha She's playing everyone and making millions off of it the damn genius

[@richardmunsch8127]

Like L Ron Hubbard. Cha CHING.

[@lisajohnson6351]

She realized the power of calling someone a racist.

[@professorpsoop]

Her and Ibram Kendi. Grifters! Both of these hustler should be ashamed of themselves. I could easily become rich and famous too if I didn't care about my soul. Just invent some catchy buzz phrase like anti-racist or white fragility, define it myself and thrust upon all the sheep pronouncing then guilty if they don't fall to their knees and confess.

[@ROTHSTEIN01]

White men worship her

[@dougtaylor2803]

Now, YOU are one of the few who gets the racket here.

[@stardustypsyche8468]

I was taught to treat everyone the same, and to obey the law, and to study hard, and to be honest, and to clean up after myself. Those are ideals I was in fact taught. So, racist woman wants to dehumanize me and the ideals I was taught. Fortunately I was also taught to not pay attention to people like racist woman who would seek to tear me down, if she had sticks and stones perhaps they would break my bones, but her words will never hurt me, I was taught that too.

[@MrSk8ingrules]

I enjoyed reading this comment! Big ups!

[@shecreates365]

Whining defensiveness. Denial. Cognative dissonance. These comments prove her right. However, kudos to the white people who have done the self reflection and have the courage to speak the truth about themselves.

[@lodz8666]

honestly!! the white people who whining have probably never googled systemic racism

[@camycameli2784]

Nobody is whning here. Everybody disagrees which is different But if you want to win by saying im right if you agree and im right if you disagree... Well good luck

[@PonShaul]

Honey, you don’t have to just say “right” a zillion times to be right (acting or judging in accordance with truth or fact).

[@dollcrazy300]

Would so love to see a discussion between Robin and Joy DeGruy Leary!

[@AprilHare]

You deleted my comment? Didn't want to address it, eh?

[@khaliltheenlightenmentbomb3423]

@@AprilHare What was your comment?

[@khaliltheenlightenmentbomb3423]

That would indeed be a most interest seminar.

[@jnugget5861]

@@AprilHare I like to see a debate with her face and the bottom of my boot over and over till she was purple like barney

[@deadcarnivora8648]

Hitler believed in unavoidable racial struggle too

[@Hannodb1961]

Yip. The left is guilty of everything they accuse others of.

[@salvenice09]

I think her greatest work, by far, was her role in the National Lampoons Vacation!!

[@gerhardtblume7354]

😂 The lies and hypocrisy of Critical Race Theory: A number of very distinguished Black intellectuals, while acknowledging the obvious reality of previous systemic oppression, deny its active presence today in their ‘lived experience’. What do the proponents of “standpoint epistemology” have to say about these critics of the oppression narrative and their situated perspectives? They invalidate them. They are ‘diagnosed’ as having a false consciousness, having internalized White oppression, or they are condemned as, amongst other things, being race-traitors, native informants or uncle Toms. These attacks are morally appalling. A number of these intellectual giants actually grew up under conditions of real racial bigotry and oppression. As should be obvious, this ‘anti-racist’ language is the language of racism. It can only foster racial polarization and division. For the critical race theorist, your moral worth is explicitly a function of your place in the racial hierarchy. Quite transparently, they take the racist Nazi’s racial hierarchy and simply invert it. Where blacks were once at the alleged bottom, based on specious racial grounds, now they are at its apex. Whites, in this revaluation of values, are now at the bottom. ‘Whiteness’ is now a sin. Notice here a certain ‘paradox’. Somehow, privileged whites have nevertheless managed to assume lucrative roles in the vanguard of this movement. Although they are white, ‘they are allies’. They remain powerful and exert disproportionate authority. Robin DiAngelo, author of “White Fragility”, makes truck loads of money telling white people just how racist they are. Of course she is too but ‘she’s doing the work’, while depositing her cheques… Needless to say, it won’t be the children of these privileged elites who are denied access to elite universities or face significant disadvantage in the employment market. After all, they are members of ‘ the cultural elite’. Remember the Harvard admissions scandal? This demonstrates the level of hypocrisy to which the powerful will stoop when it’s their children’s futures at stake. All of a sudden, ‘equity’ isn’t even an afterthought.) Hope you’ll check out my book “Deconstructing Social Justice”. It will explain the cultural Marxist logic behind this ideology and expose its lies and misrepresentations.

[@eEdJones]

Fragility or pandering, this is a 21st century formulaic presentation of a minstrel show!

[@brandonterzic]

There is truth in what she says. But it is not absolute. The human experience is broad and filled with hypocrisies and contradictions. Race is a factor in our society. Just like like gender, religion, social status, wealth or lack of, your height and weight, your fashion sense, your looks, your education. Then there are the personal factors..your intelligence, your attitude, the manner in which you engage life. Your likes and dislikes. All of these intellectual formulations and creations of slogans and mottos are good if you are trying to build a career out of talking about them, but they don't get us very far in actually dealing with real problems and issues.

[@saiello2061]

"..Beware the white liberal.." Malcolm X.

[@intuitionz1198]

@Twin Mommy liberals aren't racist you twit! they got a lot of things wrong with them but that's not one!!! 🤣 allyou backwoods hillbilly southern pride, evil statue loving Neanderthals are racist and need to be eradicated.

[@intuitionz1198]

@@uncleorev3738 yeah I don't need a lesson from a a racist moron. turn blue if it suits you.

[@intuitionz1198]

@@uncleorev3738 are you a few french fries short of a Happy Meal? this has to be the case because I can't understand why anybody would accuse a Malcolm x fan of being racist. 🤣🤣🤣 please just go away

[@leejunja8575]

intuitionz white libs are racists. Read Malcolm Xs autobiography, Thomas Sowell, MLK. This is the total opposite of what they stand for. Sorry you are the twit here

[@MeganAllen1738]

​@@leejunja8575 there was a "political realignment" I think it's called. Basically, they switched views and people. The Republicans were Northern and democrats were Southern. Southerners had the most slaves. The North became Democratic and the South became Republican. While the north was definitely racist, the South was 10x more racist, because they had owned the most slaves. The racists were once called Democrats, now they're Republicans. Not all Republicans are racist, but I would argue that most are definitely very ignorant.

[@andrewking9435]

Being rightfully offended by racist insults like white privilege is not fragility, calling it as such is gaslighting.

[@kienzle1]

Looking through this comment section, "White Fragility" was an extremely apt title for the book.

[@artgurrl]

Only if you are fragile yourself.

[@DarkAngel2512]

So if I dont think I'm something it means I'm that thing? Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

[@brendancoulter5761]

Brilliantly insidious. I have never seen some one dress up racism with such class care and charisma. She could seriously lead a cult, no kidding she is that good. You dont even realize that while she acknowledges individualism at the beginning, less then half way though the individual is irrelevant, only the group and group identity matter. I have never seen some one so seamlessly force all individuals into a group collective before. Shes freaking pure evil racist bigot who pushes for a racial hierarchy in the name of "anti-racism", but she is really, really good at it.

[@Chunkychunkchunk]

Oh so she pushing for black people to be supreme? I like that.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

Congratulations, you just proved her whole point.

[@brendancoulter5761]

@@vincentcerasoli5969 So, anyone criticizing her proves her point? You see no flaw in that logic?

[@brendancoulter5761]

@@vincentcerasoli5969 You have no argument except an appeal to authority. If you find Dr Robin compelling when her entire MO is simply to project her own racial assumptions simple because she "has an education" there is nothing I could possibly say that would dissuade you, because anything I would say would come from some one you already assume is stupid and racist. If you want to waist your your mental energy defending a woman who enrichers herself by calling strangers racist then suite yourself. Personally I have no patience for the white savior archetype she so strictly adheres to.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

@brendancoulter5761 no it's her critics' lack of self awareness thats the flaw in the logic. People who hate her and say she's wrong never actually offer why she's wrong beyond "I dont like this message." Her critics including you offer nothing more than superficial observations rather than empirical evidence. She's put in the work, she has the education and she knows what she's talking about whether we like it or not. There's your logical fallacies.

[@profjek]

DiAngelo has been telling us what we think for years. I guess that would be institutional clairvoyance.

[@preppychrisbou]

The concept of “white fragility “ is something very smart. Any objection to it automatically validates it. (Disclaimer: this is a sarcastic comment, there’s nothing brilliant or “smart” about DiAngelo or her book.)

[@QuatMan]

That is what happens when someone brilliantly and thoroughly outlines a central thesis. It causes objectors to need to be equally thorough in that objection.

[@daddy3982]

@@QuatMan I don't know if I got this right since English is not my first language, but are you saying that the concept of white fragility is brilliant ? The whole concept can be summed up by : - Accusing someone of racism based on skin color (which is racist in itself). - Any attempt at defending themselves, or defending themselves, is seen as proof of their guilt and racism. Silence is proof, crying is proof, anger is proof, argumentation is proof, leaving is proof. - It leaves two solutions : Admit you're racist, which proves her right, or keep denying, which proves her right. This is not thorough nor brilliant, it's a kafka trap where guilt is supposed beforehand and anything is seen as proof of it. It's a logical fallacy. What would be your reaction if I accuse you of something you didn't ? Let's try with : "you are into bestiality. Yes, you like animals the wrong way. Are you fallin silent ? Then you confirm what I'm saying. Are you getting mad about the accusation ? Means I'm right ! Trying to argument that you're not ? Damn, that's total proof of your guilt... stop trying to hide that you like intercourse with animals. Can you prove to me that you're not into bestiality ? Can you prove a negative (that something doesn't exist) to begin with ?" This is not brilliant, this is manipulative and outright racist since it takes away from white people the right and possibility not to be racist, or to have been raised by people who told them to respect everyone regardless of their skin. It's a gross generalization which is by definition racist, the real definition, the racially unbiased one, not the one supporting the racist idea that "black people can't be racist but all white people are". Wake up, not only is she not fighting the good fight against racism and stereotypes, but she's actually fuelling it and making profit out of it : www.google.com/amp/s/freebeacon.com/culture/antiracism-icon-robin-diangelo-paid-more-than-black-woman-for-same-job/amp/ Yes, that anti-racist woman doesn't have any problem being paid way more than her black coworker, that's all her integrity here.

[@QuatMan]

@@daddy3982 Nope. Key elements of her thesis are ( and this is not comprehensive) - white people are uncomfortable discussing race and often become defensive when discussing race or racism. - white people see themselves as individuals, unique and unconnected to a larger society of other white people ( while not holding the same assumptions of other races, though they often pretend to when having these discussions) - white people all benefit in some way from systemic racism, regardless of class ( ex: if a poor white kid and black kid of any class commit the same crime, the white kid will, statistically get less prison time. This one example only) - Angry white people can be dangerous for Black people, and anything can trigger a white person's rage ( such as the " Karen " phenomenon of random white women all over the country calling police on random Black people for nothing, but whom we are all supposed to pretend are single individuals doing a behavior, and that there is no larger pattern ). - White people do not like it when systemic racism is highlighted. They often become defensive or angry, and ignore any empirical evidence of it, or thousands of accounts from POC. Instead, they will pretend that Candace Owens, Coleman Hughes, Thomas Sowell, John McWhorter somehow cancel out other Black voices. They will also conveniently ignore or hurl hateful insults at white people like Robin DiAngelo, Tim Wise, Jane Elliot, and Robert P Jones who demonstrate how systemic racism does exist. White people who are NOT fragile are able to engage in discussions about race without getting defensive. They have no need to deny history and they do not try to remove white people from discussions about race. Thus, it is not a " Kafka trap". Neutral or positive responses, and willingness to honestly engage with a topic like this are also options that defensive ( i.e. fragile) white people tend to ignore. Calmly disagreeing with it and giving reasons why that are not simply insults or evasiveness, as one would in formal debate, are also otions. This is not the "kafka trap" white people like to pretend it is, to justify their fragile emotionality on the subject. Your bestiality example is hilarious and I would engage with such an accusation with humor or neutrality. Thus, it also is not an example of a "Kafka Trap". It does not take away white people's ability to live in a racist system, as it was created BY white people for the benefit of white people. It merely acknowledges that it exists and that, for now, no one can escape it, though they can make personal choices that are not racist. She does not remove white people's ability to choose not to behave in a racist manner. She just points out that most are not really colorblind and can go from birth to death without ever needing to interact in any significant way with people who are not white ( which makes systemic racism invisible to them). The same cannot be said for most POC in the USA. People are allowed to disagree with her if they want. It does not mean she is wrong. MOST Black people have experienced white fragility before. It can be anything from a white person trying to express authority in a situation where they really have none, to them becoming enraged when Black people do not behave in a way white people think they should, all the way to include things them murdering someone for playing their music too loud ( and these are not lone wolf, isolated incidents as white people like to pretend). Candace Owens is paid more than Robin DiAngelo to pretend that racism doesnt exist. People get paid for their work....go figure....

[@daddy3982]

@@QuatMan And yet it's still about accusing every white people of being racist and taking any reaction as proof if they deny it. That's the whole concept of white fragility, either agree that you're deeply formatted by society to be racist even though you've be taught to respect everyone, or disagree and prove her point. How is that not racist and manipulative ? That leads to bullshit like "if you're white and just "color-blind" then you participate in racism" "if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem" Cultists think thay way.

[@QuatMan]

@@daddy3982 But it isnt about those things . And she is not wrong to point out the hyperbolic negative reactions of white people when race is brought up and white people have to be included in the discussion as a collective. As I said before, willingness to engage with topics on race WITHOUT throwing a tantrum, or remaining in perpetual "confusion", even when presented with examples of systemic racism ( which she provides), and even, if one still disagrees, is an example of nonfragility. The fact that so few of you are able to do it IS proving her point. And like it or not, people are allowed to critique "coloblindness" and remaining neutral on race. Not accepting that there are different opinions on things like racism is also how brainwashed people think.

[@recentXrapture]

I see alot of defensiveness in the comments. She talked about this in the lecture. People can't even listen or have their views challenged without immediately getting angry or upset.

[@elainesabatino7467]

Antiwhite Indoctrination Crumbles in the Absence of White Guilt, of which I have 'Zero'.

[@robertm346]

Defenses against attacks are written off more often by attackers than onlookers. Check your own biases.

[@lisaleopold3852]

She is deluded and making lots of money on manipulating others.

[@philippeyared2050]

Anybody with a life expectancy of less than 250 years should not worry about this

[@MrSk8ingrules]

Underrated comment.

[@9cgx]

You can basically summarize her whole speech with one comment 16:03...

[@DarkAngel2512]

"The status quo is racism and as a white person that's comfortable for me virtually 24/7".

[@donovanmezzanine5562]

@@DarkAngel2512 "I'm not here to uphold that, I want to unsettle that, because we will not get where we need to go from a place of white comfort."

[@-ucanthandledatruth01-12]

@@donovanmezzanine5562 I see you trying to direct these vampires to truth but it's like the cross or holy water to them. They are actually psychopaths brother

[@DarkPesco]

I'd like to see how well the college kids did on jeopardy once they had only those questions...

[@MrSk8ingrules]

Yeah, when she showed that slide, and it was supposed to be a somber tone, I was dying laughing. By far the only meaningful thing I got from the waste of an hour of my life. LOL

[@toygirafe]

everyone needs to read karl Popper.

[@chelbriria]

If you’re nice JUST to not SEEM racist, admit to yourself out loud that you’re racist. Whether you decide to change or not is irrelevant to me as a black person because we don’t expect ANY of you to change. But it IS liberating to be honest with yourself.

[@Auggies1956]

Grady is racism color specific?

[@Auggies1956]

@blacknight39 That's the issue with that idea we all are a race albeit a different so how can you say that the same offence that's classifies as racist not applical to everyone not just only one particular race? Hate is universal and it should be dealt with equally.

[@chelbriria]

Auggies1956 I think that you’re just trying to talk in circles to avoid the obvious point. We live in a society set up BY white people to elevate them above other races, especially black people. And if pointing white people for their bull bothers you then you’re a part of the problem. You’re victimizing yourself in order to deflect the wrong perpetrated to black people.

[@Auggies1956]

@@chelbriria what I'm saying is that if you hate someone and assault them why should race be a reason on one side and not the other? Equality?

[@MasterChiefFloyd]

Stop committing crimes, Jamal.

[@briankovalesky8785]

Ultimate Karen seminar.

[@Frame_Late]

In Mali, Nobles weren't allowed to own land due to the King being Muslim, and following the Iqta System of fuedalistic islam. Thus, many African Nobles would take prisoners of war as slaves, and have them work on their land. They were the main source of wealth that Mali Nobles had, along with Cattle. *they treated their own people as cattle* The kicker here, is that once Europe began slinking down the Coast of Guinea, they visited many costal towns, where local Mali Nobles and Merchant families have slaves as gifts to Portugese explorers in exchange for trade contracts. The Mali Nobles wanted guns and weapons to fight more wars, take more prisoners, and to allocate more wealth and expand their usable land for their sovereign. *Africans sold each other like cattle for guns* Remember your fucking history, kids.

[@luce970]

But they didnt do it bc of race so it wasn't racist...

[@Frame_Late]

@@luce970 actually, it was. In Africa, there are several major ethnicities beyond African. West African Mali Nobles were muslims and of a different culture than those they went to war to in North, Central and Sometimes eastern Africa, nations like Tlemcen, Monarchical Ethiopia, and Songhai. Ethiopia is particular was a Coptic Christian nation if Africans with different skin tones that ranged from Arabian Brown to Mocha Black. The west African Mali Nobles often reveled in not only slaughtering and enslaving each other, but even the countless other ethnic groups in the vicinity. Why do you think the Tutsi Genocide happened? Beyond that, Native Africans, especially those on the Swahili Coast, were selling slaves from other continents before Europeans and even Romans were, the first early slave trade routes from India and Arabia to the Swahili Coast dating back to Ptolemaic Egypt. So, yeah. It was racially and religiously motivated. If you want to go tit for tat here, the Africans would target specific *culture groups* to slaughter and enslave. The Europeans bought slaves from the Africans doing the looting a pillaging. Next time you want to open your mouth and let garbage spill out, take a second to think 'is this ignorant?'

[@snakeplissken5480]

@@luce970 americans also had irish slaves so ergo by your own words it wasnt racist

[@luce970]

@@Frame_Late Thanks for educating me. I understand how that was racist now and I didn't understand it before.

[@luce970]

@@snakeplissken5480 unless I am missing something, Americans did not have Irish slaves. In the 17th and 18th centuries the Irish were used for indentured servitude which is not slavery. In the 15th century there were Irish war criminals that were made to do forced labor. -Donoghue, John. “THE CURSE OF CROMWELL: Revisiting the Irish Slavery Debate.” History Ireland, vol. 25, no. 4, 2017, pp. 24-28. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/90014565. Accessed 1 Feb. 2021. Also, wouldn't it not be racist if someone had a slave of the exact same skin tone? There is/was no noticable difference between Irish people and white American people so how is that racist? It would be different in the context above as in Africa the slavery was based on different skin tones.

[@interestingvideos4me]

I guess most people in the comments here felt personally attacked...very telling no? I guess your reaction is exactly what she is talking about...the fragility thing...

[@allahspreadshate6486]

That's the trap of the unfalsifiable theory that is "White Fragility". Such theories can be useful though, when you see somebody advocating for one you know you're dealing with an idiot. Thanks for the warning.

[@interestingvideos4me]

Ad-hominen attacks are never a good way to carry a conversation... I certainly don't think you are an idiot because you disagree from her or from my views... I also don't think you are an idiot for the very disturbing nickname you have. I do think/believe we can do better than name calling...

[@allahspreadshate6486]

@@interestingvideos4me - So ad hominems are bad but fallacies like circular reasoning and unfalsifiable claims, which Diangelo's entire philosophy is built around, are fine? Are you just cherry picking standards only when they suit you? Very Robin Diangelo.

[@interestingvideos4me]

@@allahspreadshate6486 I think the point is not the existence or not of vices in her argument - although we can also talk about that, but it seems a distraction from the larger issue at hand which is the validity of the premises informing her argument: whiteness needs to be discussed, or rather the unmarkedness of whiteness. This is not a talk to 'accuse' 'white people' of 'racism'. It is a provocation to unsettle the common belief or assumption that whiteness has no part in debates about race/racism/inequality, etc.

[@allahspreadshate6486]

@@interestingvideos4me - Have you read her book? Her entire argument, her entire philosophy, notoriety and reputation are built on "all white people are racist".

[@thestoryprincess9163]

Based on the comments this book struck a nerve.

[@zaknefain100]

Could be that people like her are part of the problem.

[@lelouchvibritannia2300]

Twin Mommy Its more so us white people who should ally with, and help black people with this issue. Do not forget, it was a racist white government that flooded the black community with crack cocaine, then launched a war on drugs. Its well documented.

[@rrickarr]

@@zaknefain100 No people like you are the problem because you are so offended by what she has said.

[@rrickarr]

@Twin Mommy Well please stay the history of America to know why this is. Slavery forcibly breaking up black families-------forcing black people to live in the worst parts of town with no city services. You are so ignorant of history it is scary. So sorry you are so nervous at examining the truth.

[@rrickarr]

It did and I am glad because people need to learn truth and become aware!

[@bankcounsel]

This entire seminar is basically an hour-long session for special-needs humans.

[@SomeGuy-up4yz]

Yeah, I only came here to disagree also--definitely never listening to these sorts of people.

[@bankcounsel]

This session should be enjoyed with bottle of Blanton's and OnlyFans models in the background gyrating. @@SomeGuy-up4yz

[@danielbrown1943]

I'm at the start of this video. But something occurred earlier to me today. How do "black" people expect "white" people to be able to "align" with any particular interpretation of what's casually referred to as "racism"? It seems anywhere you turn, no matter what you do, no matter how many facts, statistics, reading, sincerity, thought, investment that a "white"(??!?) person puts in, according to black people, or at least a common knee-jerk response, is simply, "You can never understand"-- there are many different philosophies even from the "black" perspective, contexts, factors, etc. "Fragility"? Don't people of color/ "black"/ "African-American" people understand how dizzying it is to be faced with an obligation to reconcile all the disparate factors, often without any structures to be able to meaningfully evaluate details, etc? To me, having already reviewed a fairly copious amount of material in my life, it just seems to me, that 1.America/ institutions/ etc is very complex. There are good and bad apples in various sections all across, with in my opinion, black people given more of a "pass" to be entitled to be violent. 2. Issues of justice reform affect many people, and the issues may include aspects within instances, of racism, but in my experience, the factors are lack of opportunity to access or collect necessary information for fair representation or justice, combined with lack of accountability measures for police brutality or misreporting. Which again can affect everybody- I've experienced it myself from jerky "white", "Latino" and "Asian" cops. The only seeming reasonable answer is policy reform for everyone, and case-specificity, with measures for accountability, as perhaps opposed to implying "all whites are racist."-- the stats on shootings of unarmed individuals apparently indicates whites on average are more often victims, and that when it comes to indicators of life success, economic disparities practically disappear based on the variable of quality education. I could say much, much more, but it seems many "discussions" on the matter simply expect white people to acknowledge a community "sin" against blacks, when the actual data does not seem to suggest this. Has anyone heard of the psychiatric term "moral trauma/ moral injury"? How does this square against "white fragility"-? I'm going to watch the video, to be sure that, ONCE AGAIN, I'M LISTENING... I'm pretty vocal about a number of issues, and look up many things, trying to be fair, see all factors, not tip any scales. But just the title "white fagility-?" Has this author ever worked at a homeless outreach and seen vulnerable, innocent "white" people ganged up on, rolled, attempted murder by the "blacks" in those circumstances? "Fragility "-??!? Ickh...People have factors that affect their behavior: disenfranchisement, education, upbringing, culture (which can be maybe informed by race); but no one (under most circumstances) is forced to be violent, to initiate unprovoked violence upon another. I've been attacked three times in my life, not my fault, brutally, by blacks, in numbers. Good questions are: "what informs this behavior? What informs police brutality? Or lack of options in the justice system,"-- as the Bible says: "render verdicts that are just, and beneficial, to all"--- there are a number of other Scriptures about "just weights and measures", among other metrics, in the Bible, that if we could consider, truly from the heart, this nation could heal. It does disgust me though, the title: white "fragility"---everybody is fragile, given the right circumstances...

[@lindauno8163]

Daniel Brown I am guessing you have completed the video by now and have had some of your questions answered. Understanding is a continuum. The more we learn, the more we understand. I am going to listen to her other videos. I have also listened to Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man. Learning and growing daily.

[@danielbrown1943]

Actually, Linda, I did try to watch a bit more of this video, but, in light of the realities I've actually lived, it just got too cringe-y. I feel she makes some general observations which could have some wisdom about how "mainstream" people, (including most of what one might call "white culture") uses conversations to "distance" from problems, etc. Sure, to me this is obvious. People in our society do this. They want to assume there's an office somewhere, with a presumed "specialization" to help any sort of problem that may arise. I get it, I've lived it. But this has more to do, in my opinion, with what Francis Schaeffer spoke of "the fragmentation of society", rather than something unique to "whites"-- "black"/ "brown"/ Asian", anybody is capable of not being insightful, respectful, compassionate, etc etc etc- There are probably many "black" people who are somewhat capable of acting the same way Ms DiAngelo describes, and many "white" people who don't-- it just seems obvious to me that the factors that inform such issues are very case-specific and contextual-- I as a "white" person have recognized this non attachment from "whites" for most of my life--they Do tend to avoid any issues of real systemic problem, and, are full of platitudes... I'm not, though. Sure, that may sound hypocritical. I mean it. I just feel these issues are obviously not based on skin color, alone, and there are other factors which inform this situation, and frankly, when it comes to issues that affect disenfranchised "whites", most "blacks" are just as stand-offish, only, more entitled to be mean/ rude, to boot... These consortiums based solely on "identity politics"... well, it just seems missing whole swaths of the real factors and dynamics which really "are", the issues. So, yeah, I tried to watch a little more, and frankly, just got sick of it. K, Thanks!

[@lindauno8163]

It is all about small steps and learning. I am married to a person of color. I do remember examples of what my white parents did with intention to build a family that didn’t behave in racist ways. I am certain this opened the door to my path of marrying the amazing man that I did. I do, however, know that I do carry some thoughts that I need to squelch at times. Do I lock my car door more often if there s a black person standing at a street corner than a white person? Or homeless? Do I hold my purse differently? As a teacher, I constantly ask myself questions. Small steps and willingness to learn.

[@danielbrown1943]

@@lindauno8163 have you ever wondered if it's not an impossible burden to expect you to not "lock your door ", be "nervous" at all around homeless people, or perhaps, inner city people, perhaps including certain types of people of color? What I mean is, if you or I were in a certain situation to interact with people as individuals, we would evaluate them on the basis of "the content of their character"--- however, this would necessarily be on a basis of person by person, case by case. Because of realities such as, possibly, homeless people being desperate/ more situationally prone to possibly steal, etc, is it not wisdom to lock your car? What more can people be expected to do, than try to vote for policies that give equal/ adequate opportunities to those facing socioeconomic challenges, and yet, case by case, use discretion to filter in each case, who or who are not trustworthy? My dad had a friend, good friend named Freddy. Freddy was black. One time, Freddy told my dad how incredibly wary/ on edge/ frightened he was because of travelling through an older, more old-fashioned small town in Tx where I live. My dad and I thought it was sort of funny, sort of extreme/ nutty. Well, was Freddy to be considered "racist"/ "bigoted", etc for his concern? How is his concern more "legitimate" than the simple fact of perhaps a "white" woman, ( acting in what some may call "prudence"), locking her car in a part of town perhaps unfamiliar/ perhaps with people unfamiliar? It's not unknown at all that there is a significant amount of racially motivated violence against "whites" by "blacks"-- it does happen, and it doesn't seem as bemoaned by people of color as much as perceived racially motivated attacks against blacks are, by "white" people. Seriously. It's not bigotry to lock one's car, or to recognize a likelihood or a proclivity. If people can flexibly interact to yes, take care of their property, needs, etc and be as open, thoughtful, discretionary, considerate, productive as they can be as individuals, what more realistically Can Anyone...Expect? (Yet, at the same time I acknowledge completely that there are not structures of accountability which people participate in, to evaluate justice system issues, etc. Most "white" people live, as "islands", not aware of systemic issues which foment injustice, like ID catch22s which affect the homeless population, or lack of opportunities to challenge police brutality, legal reform issues, etc. That is a real, legitimate, other side of the coin, as I've previously mentioned...) ("gaslighting" can take many forms, not just/ only "white"...) I would love to be able to find people to talk about issues which have affected the situation I've been in. Psychiatric abuse, endless repercussions. Tremendous, unmitigated oppression. If I were "black", or a "woman ", I'd most likely have more "cred" or "community". The solution seems to be people coming together to talk about specifics for reform, not simply overarching social/ intersectional "theories". PS I do agree that it's "steps"-- if everyone became more aware of facts, policies, factors of evaluation/ etc, in community, with I believe prayer, sincerity, objectivity, and acknowledgment of God, I believe He'd honor this. But, we'll see...

[@lindauno8163]

Daniel Brown I think we agree on much of this topic. Not all, but more than not.