White Heat: The 1987 Phoenix Suns Cocaine Scandal

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Stupid Beyond Belief

Stupid Beyond Belief

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@StupidBeyondBelief
@StupidBeyondBelief 11 ай бұрын
**Apologies for misprouncing Macleod, it's been brought to my attention it's MC-CLOUD. Additionally, the source I used on the Vanos plane crash was incorrect about the departure / arrival location. The flight actually crashed while taking off in Detroit, and is a miraculous story in its own. Thank you kindly to all of those who watched and enjoyed! For more stories like this, check out the "Mike Danton Story" on my page.
@charleshaywood6495
@charleshaywood6495 11 ай бұрын
❤❤😢😅😅
@garyneilson5457
@garyneilson5457 11 ай бұрын
Your video is trash, please find a new line of work
@condemnedto4093
@condemnedto4093 11 ай бұрын
If interested, you should think about covering the St. Bonaventure University basketball scandal of 2003. It deals with cheating by the coach, and the president of the school (although pretty insignificant cheating compared to what the bigger schools have done, still cheating tho), covering up, boneheaded decisions by the players, and it ends tragically when a board member of the school, sadly takes his own life in disgrace…
@infinityweay
@infinityweay 11 ай бұрын
I think you should research the FBI probe and the 80 New Orleans Sants. It set up the sale of the Saints. I think its a 30 for 30
@jdmo
@jdmo 9 ай бұрын
You may want to read "Money Players" -- there's a whole chapter on the Suns overblown "scandal" ... and I think they get into the Phil Ford - Walter Davis relationship in the early '80s. Hard to believe the Suns actually got Maurice Lucas in the trade w/ New Jersey. Anyway, the book has quite a few details that you'd probably find interesting and instructive.
@metomhub
@metomhub 11 ай бұрын
"career high" has a different meaning for some players.
@kerry-j4m
@kerry-j4m 11 ай бұрын
OUCH. That comment was very-FUNNY !!! LOL.
@RandyDavis-p3m
@RandyDavis-p3m 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lil_james1584
@lil_james1584 7 ай бұрын
Damn 😂😂😂😂😂
@DaPinanic02
@DaPinanic02 5 ай бұрын
💀💀💀😂😂
@EetsBack
@EetsBack 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@davanmani556
@davanmani556 11 ай бұрын
Norm Van Lier: “When I came into the league in 1969, everybody was an alcoholic. In the mid-70’s, everybody was a pothead. When I left in ‘78, you either were on the joint or powder.”
@Readyrockred-qq6xo
@Readyrockred-qq6xo 5 ай бұрын
Bird smoke Newport drunk beer😮
@Readyrockred-qq6xo
@Readyrockred-qq6xo 5 ай бұрын
Yes he was NBA 2k
@eadred9164
@eadred9164 4 ай бұрын
Stfu nerd. They were exaggerating.
@xelefonte
@xelefonte 9 ай бұрын
This is such a very well done documentary. The music, the script, the editing…finding photos of NBA players from the 80s and cutting them out. What a superb job.
@acornsucks2111
@acornsucks2111 8 ай бұрын
It goes on and on.
@ncnative_2524
@ncnative_2524 11 ай бұрын
Mitchell Wiggins and Lewis Lloyd were reinstated back into the nba, I think it’s important to include that in the video
@animula6908
@animula6908 11 ай бұрын
It’s important you at least told us here! Thank you.
@stevek6518
@stevek6518 11 ай бұрын
Wiggins is Andrew Wiggins father
@jlobiafra
@jlobiafra 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but they were terrible when they came back, they never were the same players
@cmattjohnson1692
@cmattjohnson1692 11 ай бұрын
Do more sports scandals throughout history in each sport. This was interesting as hell ill watch em all. You got a reporter voice as well u sound like you've done broadcast before. Well done!
@StupidBeyondBelief
@StupidBeyondBelief 11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly! I am really glad you enjoyed it. You may enjoy the "Mike Danton" doc on my page for another niche sports scandal. All the best
@ChevonneReynolds
@ChevonneReynolds 29 күн бұрын
I agree
@alwayskul
@alwayskul 11 ай бұрын
James Edwards got rewarded by being traded to Detroit and winning 2 chips with the Bad Boys
@mangrove
@mangrove 11 ай бұрын
Bedford got a ring with them, too. He was suspended for the '89 season, but returned for 1990.
@purplecoffee3620
@purplecoffee3620 11 ай бұрын
Edwards was a nice player too, one of my favourites
@alwayskul
@alwayskul 11 ай бұрын
@@purplecoffee3620 I agree. He was too nice of a player to be the journeyman that he was.
@newelldavis1858
@newelldavis1858 11 ай бұрын
He went where the Coke was
@Amick44
@Amick44 11 ай бұрын
​@@alwayskulfine shooter, scorer in the lane and even to the wing areas. But didn't rebound and mediocre on D.
@Kingdizzleltdinc615
@Kingdizzleltdinc615 11 ай бұрын
The Michael Jordan clip in the beginning is legendary
@anthonyriche552
@anthonyriche552 10 ай бұрын
What's ironic is that MJ was true to form. Apparently, when he first got to the Bulls he wouldn't hang out with the guys instead choosing to stay in his hotel room because some of them were doing drugs. By his third year most of those players were gone.
@calvs420
@calvs420 10 ай бұрын
Yeah they used that to push Reagan's mandatory minimum sentencing.... yay for mass incarceration
@NotTrump2323
@NotTrump2323 10 ай бұрын
What’s even more legendary is Nancy Reagan’s comercial and DARE while they used the CIA to bring it in to fund the fight for the Contras 😢😊
@illeatyourbabies
@illeatyourbabies 10 ай бұрын
​@@NotTrump2323You mean "Nancy 'The Throat GOAT' Reagan"
@Heyu7her3
@Heyu7her3 9 ай бұрын
​@@NotTrump2323 guns but she herself wouldn't have been privvy to all that since it was CIA operation
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 10 ай бұрын
Cocaine was king in the 80's. Wall Street, Main Street, NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB, Hollywood. It snowed everywhere.
@marvinhagler4721
@marvinhagler4721 10 ай бұрын
True
@zenkai8247
@zenkai8247 11 ай бұрын
The mustache and no lineup combo made them all look like they were in their 40s
@moeseck7792
@moeseck7792 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mjwbulich
@mjwbulich 11 ай бұрын
Just wait. Fashion and hair styles are constantly changing. In 35 years people will look back at now and think everyone looks dated and old.
@GameOnRadio1
@GameOnRadio1 10 ай бұрын
@@mjwbulichmaaaaaaay be but my 40 looks 15 years younger than my grand fathers 40 hell even my fathers 40 and my dad had m at 18
@GraciousFundamentalist
@GraciousFundamentalist 10 ай бұрын
😂😂.... I swear...40yr old in their 3rd year....😂
@gaiusjulius_caesar2059
@gaiusjulius_caesar2059 10 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha... and whatta you know it, on drugs... Unfortunately
@BigAl4Chron
@BigAl4Chron 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t know Andrew Wiggins dad got kicked out of the league for doing blow
@KennethChristian-f1k
@KennethChristian-f1k 9 ай бұрын
Same with Barry Bonds dad and alcoholism which is why he hated the media
@BigAl4Chron
@BigAl4Chron 9 ай бұрын
@@KennethChristian-f1k fr?? I learn something new everyday haha
@BruteStrength99
@BruteStrength99 9 ай бұрын
​@@KennethChristian-f1kBobby didn't do himself any favors
@holstorrsceadus1990
@holstorrsceadus1990 8 ай бұрын
He was Wiggin out. Boom sisk.
@BigAl4Chron
@BigAl4Chron 8 ай бұрын
@@holstorrsceadus1990 😂😂
@usahenry
@usahenry 11 ай бұрын
That plot twist (not really but it was unexpected) at 21:26 really shocked me. Incredible video, you have earned a sub
@oldmanballer5088
@oldmanballer5088 11 ай бұрын
FYI…John Macleod’s name is pronounce John Mccloud. I was a freshman in college that year and remember this happening. James Edwards played for the Pistons for 4yrs 1987-1991. Averaged about 20 minutes a game and won three chips. Had a pretty decent career after all this. Walter Davis was nominated for Hall of Fame ballot this year, for the first time
@HighpointerGeocacher
@HighpointerGeocacher 10 ай бұрын
The narrator says "Maricopa County Police" but it is the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office. Police forces are the law enforcement agencies of cities and towns.
@3243_
@3243_ 11 ай бұрын
Good video. I remember hearing about this in the news in 1987, and in retrospect it always seemed to me that shortly thereafter this scandal quickly got swept under the rug.
@levi-homer
@levi-homer 9 ай бұрын
U have a gift for these type videos fr keep em coming
@Tony525_
@Tony525_ 11 ай бұрын
NBA has the greatest PR team. So many stories go untold
@-CONSIGNED_TO_OBLIVION-
@-CONSIGNED_TO_OBLIVION- 7 ай бұрын
Karl Malone got a 13 yr old pregnant. Patrick Ewing and Atlanta strip clubs... various sexual assaults, referee gambling scandals lol it's crazy the NBA is where it's at today
@jjdillon1207
@jjdillon1207 5 ай бұрын
You mean Nike does
@Area-pv3ht
@Area-pv3ht 11 ай бұрын
Don't do drugs. Stop it
@theMizDMA
@theMizDMA 11 ай бұрын
how does my drug use affect you?
@Area-pv3ht
@Area-pv3ht 11 ай бұрын
@themizdma671 sorry mr Mdma you're right
@shirobedabo
@shirobedabo 11 ай бұрын
Get some help
@theMizDMA
@theMizDMA 11 ай бұрын
@@shirobedabo i am a full time student and hold a full time job with samsung. what i do behind closed doors does not effect any of you. society is so obsessed with people living their lives without bothering people
@sfrank8687
@sfrank8687 11 ай бұрын
​@@theMizDMAit's no one's business
@IRuiz805
@IRuiz805 11 ай бұрын
This video reminds me of the Pittsburgh Pirates 1985 cocaine scandal, the crazy part is that the mascot for team is the one who was selling cocaine to Pirates players and he also sold cocaine to players from the opposing team when they were in Pittsburgh to play
@Thebrothaisback
@Thebrothaisback 10 ай бұрын
Damn.
@jlobiafra
@jlobiafra 10 ай бұрын
Lol that would make a great movie
@DaPinanic02
@DaPinanic02 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@johnathanrush4666
@johnathanrush4666 5 ай бұрын
THE PIRATE PARROT SLANGIN
@bresams2917
@bresams2917 4 ай бұрын
The Mascot!??😂😮😭
@akbarlebowitz8151
@akbarlebowitz8151 11 ай бұрын
Johnny High, man lived up to his last name.
@Kurzov
@Kurzov 11 ай бұрын
He really did
@lil_james1584
@lil_james1584 7 ай бұрын
Damn 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂😂😂😂
@hunchodavinci8498
@hunchodavinci8498 11 ай бұрын
Just ran into my new favorite hoops account. Man this was so detailed. Well done keep climbing
@theleap2946
@theleap2946 11 ай бұрын
Being a Suns fan, this low point obviously led to one of the best eras in the team’s history and led to the team acquiring all around good guy Tom Chambers. Too bad they couldn’t win a title. 😞
@timmyt1232
@timmyt1232 11 ай бұрын
I remember Sweet 'D' would jump super high with his jump shots. It was also fun watching KJ and Charles Barkley play together with Dan Majerle shooting the 3.
@natureboy1313
@natureboy1313 11 ай бұрын
Tom Chambers and that amazing dunk over Mark Jackson.
@protroll697
@protroll697 11 ай бұрын
Do you think sir Charles era was better than Nash era?
@mangrove
@mangrove 11 ай бұрын
Fast turnaround, adding KJ, Chambers. Thunder Dan, etc.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 11 ай бұрын
The Suns will never win a title. 🤷 The perfect example of a permanently cursed franchise.
@lyricsfromsweden
@lyricsfromsweden 10 ай бұрын
This was very fascinating and you did a fantastic job with structure and pace in this video.
@calvinhodge7785
@calvinhodge7785 11 ай бұрын
Very informative video! Lots of tidbits and cool info. Graphics are great as well. Could definitely see this taking off with a banger thumbnail
@StupidBeyondBelief
@StupidBeyondBelief 11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly for watching and appreciate the feedback!
@timothywright2952
@timothywright2952 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video..very good information & content..especially your facts on the PHX scandal
@marshallarnold-ep7nn
@marshallarnold-ep7nn 10 ай бұрын
The funniest story about those Phoenix teams? A team rookie, going to an assistant coaches room, and asking "Hey coach, got any left?"
@chillyc7024
@chillyc7024 11 ай бұрын
Thats why the CBA was born. I used to be a ball boy for a CBA team in the early 80's and all them cats played there cuz they had issues with a substance. Still the coolest experience and people I met .
@seanslawns
@seanslawns 11 ай бұрын
I worked for the magic from 2004-2014, saw a lot of crazy stuff you’d never think went on. Nothing like rampant drug use but now it’s because they got so much money.
@sebastianliwinski222
@sebastianliwinski222 9 ай бұрын
What was your job?
@SauceGawd-w1b
@SauceGawd-w1b 5 ай бұрын
Probably dey dope man 😂😂😂😂​@@sebastianliwinski222
@AJfrmStony62
@AJfrmStony62 5 ай бұрын
​@@sebastianliwinski222he lying
@puddlespuddles5208
@puddlespuddles5208 11 ай бұрын
Exccellent video. I am a huge bball fan and this was well done. You gained yourself a sub. Looking forward to more! Keep it up!
@jayvillane
@jayvillane 11 ай бұрын
I've been curious about this for a while and FINALLY someone does a video on it. Thank you!
@1990758
@1990758 11 ай бұрын
That’s the difference between the internet and tv.I remember watching some of this on tv when it happened.
@MarquisdeSuave
@MarquisdeSuave 11 ай бұрын
The scandal has basically killed the chances of Walter Davis ever making it in the Hall of Fame.
@jdmo
@jdmo 10 ай бұрын
This could be his year -- he made the Final Ballot posthumously. And Colangelo is the chairman of the HOF committee, go figure. Davis wasn't even on the eligible ballot at first.
@eugenestewart4251
@eugenestewart4251 10 ай бұрын
It's alot of drug users that made the hall of fame in all sports
@chillmill
@chillmill 10 ай бұрын
The Greyhound was a PROBLEM! He could hoop
@jamesbowen8960
@jamesbowen8960 9 ай бұрын
He was a great player and talent. He was plagued with drug problems.
@kellkoolguy
@kellkoolguy 9 ай бұрын
He made it this year!
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 11 ай бұрын
One small correction about the plane crash involving Suns Center Nick Vanos. There was ONE lone survivor. A little girl who as far as I know is still alive today.
@mangrove
@mangrove 11 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHXGpH6Zh7WSqNk She invited the firefighter who found her to her wedding.
@jimmymetal713
@jimmymetal713 11 ай бұрын
One small correction- the plane
@andysorensen1737
@andysorensen1737 11 ай бұрын
The flight was also from Detroit to Phoenix.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 11 ай бұрын
It was Northwest 255 which is a rabbit hole all of its own that ties into not one, but two pro sports. It's been stated a lot of the NASCAR media had to switch into journalist and reporter mode to cover the crash of Northwest 255 since the Winston Cup circus was at Brooklyn, MI for the race there that weekend, then the plane crash happenedyou spo
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 11 ай бұрын
@@jimmymetal713I accept that correction and the pettiness 😂
@dameianjones6641
@dameianjones6641 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know if this gentleman that put this together was a journalist or in college to be a future journalist but this was well put together. I knew about John Lucas issues but not Dennis Johnson. I was 12 in 1987but had never heard about this. Great video! I’m going to pass this along with my friends. I know my mother & uncles use to joke when telling me that the NBA could only vouch for Kareem, Magic, Bird, Dr. J, Isiah and Jordan as being drug free doing that time. That joke might’ve been really true.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 11 ай бұрын
To clarify on the plane crash since I put it in a reply initially. The flight was from Detroit, not going to it, it crashed just after lifting off the runway however. Quoting the NTSB report: "The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of the accident was the flight crew's failure to use the taxi checklist to ensure that the flaps and slats were extended for takeoff. Contributing to the accident was the absence of electrical power to the airplane takeoff warning system, which thus did not warn the flightcrew that the airplane was not configured properly for takeoff. The reason for the absence of electrical power could not be determined." It was stated during the investigation that there was a culture of pilots pulling the power to that system since it was too sensitive and would trigger if the plane thought it was taking of, even when it wasn't. There were cases of the takeoff warning horn (which was loud) going off when taxiing so pilots would allegedly pull the power to the system to silence the horn, it was stated that there were fingerprints and smudge marks, and it was easy to do without turning around, much like reaching down to change the radio station while driving. Other than that correction, this is a great video and something that doesn't get talked about a lot, IMO overshadowed by the death of Len Bias the year before
@LadyJay114
@LadyJay114 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. A lot of the younger viewers are too young to remember how many plane crashes we used to have in this country, and mainly for pilot and/or ground crew error. Even with all the problems at Boeing these days, this era of air travel is so much safer.
@broncobilly4029
@broncobilly4029 11 ай бұрын
interesting video. Well researched. You ought to make a part 2, because the way the Suns recovered from this is nothing short of spectacular. They went from almost losing their team to two straight WCF, and then the NBA Finals in a few short years. They did it by trading Larry Nance for Kevin Johnson and Dan Majerle. Then they signed Tom Chambers as the NBAs first unrestricted FA. They draftedm Cedric Ceballos in the second round. Then they parlayed Hornaceck Andrew Lang, and Tim Perry for Charles Barkley. Jerry Colangelo, their GM, really earned his money.
@gijoey5912
@gijoey5912 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if Miami had a team that year.
@bresams2917
@bresams2917 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😭
@spontaneouz1000-sr6ls
@spontaneouz1000-sr6ls Ай бұрын
Only in the NFL, just not in the NBA yet
@KansasColoradoFarmer
@KansasColoradoFarmer Ай бұрын
​@@spontaneouz1000-sr6lsthat's why he said imagine 🤣 😂 you beta
@jklight2957
@jklight2957 11 ай бұрын
elite quality video, how does this not have at least 100k views😭
@badnewsbrown2396
@badnewsbrown2396 11 ай бұрын
This is why they called Oakland "Cokeland" back in the day
@Trogani
@Trogani 11 ай бұрын
Good video bro, great detail and very entertaining
@mattwonders5566
@mattwonders5566 11 ай бұрын
Sb nation written all over this, great video bro
@JoeRogansForehead
@JoeRogansForehead 11 ай бұрын
Cool channel and topic. Good voice for this stuff . A+ and subscribed.
@CleanMusicLover229
@CleanMusicLover229 11 ай бұрын
Mitchell Wiggins is Andrew Wiggins' father.
@olufemiazeez320
@olufemiazeez320 11 ай бұрын
The crack era hit everybody
@daviddorsey8754
@daviddorsey8754 9 ай бұрын
Crackwars very real
@SHOW_ME
@SHOW_ME 9 ай бұрын
It was that two-punch combo that started the downward spiral for us: 1) '70s Welfare system implementation (fatherless households) 2) '80s-90s Crack Era (community destruction) These guys were just part of a long list of victims of "the game"
@michaelrumfelt3106
@michaelrumfelt3106 9 ай бұрын
excellent comment
@christopherpellerito5883
@christopherpellerito5883 10 ай бұрын
The newspaper clip at the 10:33 mark jumped out at me - "Kareem's new shot" was the first, last and only three-pointer he made in his career. Abdul-Jabbar was 1-for-18 lifetime from beyond the arc.
@leeinoregon1326
@leeinoregon1326 11 ай бұрын
The idea of Paul Mokeski influeincing an NBA game is insane. He averaged 2 points a game that year.
@b.t.2796
@b.t.2796 10 ай бұрын
Haha! A good video would be "Big White Guys Who Just Stood Around" Mokeski, Tom Boerwinkle ,Billy Paultz...
@jdmo
@jdmo 5 ай бұрын
"Foul on Mokeski" "Mokeski again with the foul" "Foul on Mokeski" He didn't play much for the Bucks, but fans loved Big Mo.
@bruff76
@bruff76 17 күн бұрын
@@jdmoUnderrated comment 😂
@mets137781
@mets137781 7 күн бұрын
yeah he is probably the least likely guy you would think of….
@stephenfarrelly1602
@stephenfarrelly1602 10 ай бұрын
Really like your style of videos
@azcardguy7825
@azcardguy7825 11 ай бұрын
Wow… I’m a giant suns fan and had zero clue this happened. Great video man.
@hull9181
@hull9181 11 ай бұрын
I have to be young lol cuz I’m old lol
@florianbourel622
@florianbourel622 11 ай бұрын
Man, Grant Gondrezick is a true legend in my french hometown of Caen, where he spend a year between his release from the Suns and his time by the Clippers. Avg 23,6 pts, 6 ast & 6 reb in 87-88, he is probably the best US player we had back then in the french first tier. The club paid him tribute when he sadly passed
@unappealingundesirable2826
@unappealingundesirable2826 11 ай бұрын
Sadly, Grant's brother Glen passed away early, too. On top of that, Grant's daughter Kalabrya, also lost her husband, football player Dwayne Haskins, as he tried to walk across a freeway in Ohio. I was born and raised in Seattle, USA in 1973.
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I'll be keeping this in mind when I go to the Footprint Center next week for AEW
@davidgabriel9809
@davidgabriel9809 11 ай бұрын
Great video!!
@StupidBeyondBelief
@StupidBeyondBelief 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching
@jay_9985
@jay_9985 10 ай бұрын
Very well done 👍🏿👍🏿! Appreciate the research you did for this. More views 👀are coming.
@garretsalomon
@garretsalomon 11 ай бұрын
Nick Vanos died when Northwest Flight 255 crashed shortly after takeoff from Detroit Metropolitan Airport (DTW) in Romulus, MI (about 21 miles from downtown Detroit).
@timehrhardt6199
@timehrhardt6199 11 ай бұрын
Yup, I was going to add the same thing.
@ImTheCrew
@ImTheCrew 9 ай бұрын
Great video for such a small channel - I a new subscriber
@dean-olivergordon193
@dean-olivergordon193 10 ай бұрын
Great coverage! Thanks for this production. I do believe the Northwest Airlines 255 crash that claimed Nick Vanos (22:03) a little girl survived the crash with serious injuries.
@tyler8363
@tyler8363 10 ай бұрын
good commentary good visuals good video
@beeemm2578
@beeemm2578 9 ай бұрын
15:54 the team photographer (Photo not available) 🤣🤣🤣
@unf4th0mable
@unf4th0mable 10 ай бұрын
Cool video man! really interesting
@BELIKEJUATER
@BELIKEJUATER 11 ай бұрын
Drugs ruined so many hall of fame careers. Bernard King and Sugar Ray could’ve ran the league if not for their habits
@newelldavis1858
@newelldavis1858 11 ай бұрын
Nah it was mostly injuries for Bernard ..he never got over the racism he experienced in college which led to drinking and drugs I guess
@BELIKEJUATER
@BELIKEJUATER 11 ай бұрын
@@newelldavis1858 Drugs still definitely played a role
@jonnykilroy9762
@jonnykilroy9762 11 ай бұрын
Bernard one of the few that recovered from his problems and became a superstar. He was right behind that Magic/Bird tier of star before he blew out his knee. Testament to his will power that he returned and became an all star again. Basically unheard of back then
@yankees29
@yankees29 11 ай бұрын
@@newelldavis1858that is the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard in my life.😂
@Keith_McDaniel
@Keith_McDaniel 11 ай бұрын
I believe Michael Ray Richardson is another one...
@randomguest299
@randomguest299 11 ай бұрын
I’m from phx and have never heard of any of this. Great vid
@aleister666xx
@aleister666xx 11 ай бұрын
If Bill and Wilt competed against "plumbers", Jordan competed with mostly drug addicts, alcoholics and past-their-prime players 😂😂😂
@yukondeighton8075
@yukondeighton8075 11 ай бұрын
and lebron played against flopping softies who arent allowed to play defence. NO ERAS COUNT!!!!! IT ALL SUCKS. Except for the 1891 game, that was real ball.
@Johnbones23
@Johnbones23 11 ай бұрын
This was talking ab the 70s the decade before MJ who was drafted in 84 and still in the league in 2000
@Madvillainy48
@Madvillainy48 11 ай бұрын
​@yukondeighton8075 say what you want about this Era being soft, but players on average take the game way more seriously than they did in the 70s and 80s.
@streetsweeper8831
@streetsweeper8831 11 ай бұрын
I say this in debates and I'm called crazy
@edski4040
@edski4040 11 ай бұрын
The 1892 game when corncob broke the peach basket was a classic. You are correct the game just is not what it use to be.​@@yukondeighton8075
@bigzizzo
@bigzizzo 10 ай бұрын
The reason Walter Davis isn’t in the Hall right now. 🕊️🕊️
@jdmo
@jdmo 5 ай бұрын
Colangelo got him in this year. Davis wasn't even on the ballot, but then he died in December. He was only 67. Colangelo is chairman of the HOF selection process, so changes were made and Davis ended up on the final ballot and was voted in. It's guilt on Colangelo's part, for all of this, for having to cooperate with this snake of a D.A.
@bronsonbamnallen1633
@bronsonbamnallen1633 11 ай бұрын
this is wild. I had honestly never really heard about this. I know all those players too, but the only one I knew had a coke problem were Davis and Bedford. Mitchell Wiggins lifetime ban!? I had no idea. Glad his son turned out better. But his fathers past never gets brought up. Awesome story.
@anthonyjones634
@anthonyjones634 10 ай бұрын
Ironically he's the reason his son missed a lot of games last year because of health issues.
@DaPinanic02
@DaPinanic02 5 ай бұрын
​@@anthonyjones634 Who has health issues?! Him or Andrew?!
@anthonyjones634
@anthonyjones634 5 ай бұрын
@@DaPinanic02 Him
@deadarmd
@deadarmd 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Someday were going to look at todays nba and performance enhancers the same way.
@williewinston1498
@williewinston1498 11 ай бұрын
FACTS. And LeBron gonna be at the center of it all smh🤷🏾‍♂️
@aquadonkey.
@aquadonkey. 8 күн бұрын
Sad about washburn, the story goes his tendinitis in his knees lead him to being prescribed pain meds which lead to a kidney infection which lead different pain meds and it just kinda rolled downhill from there with addiction, when really it all started as the dude was legitimately hurting
@jcchambers7896
@jcchambers7896 9 ай бұрын
Ayo gil was not bullshitting 😂😂😂😂😂 funny how they sweep this under the rug
@OrionOodama
@OrionOodama 11 ай бұрын
There's something about the Phoenix Suns that can be considered a "curse". Thanks, SBB, for featuring this newfound story (personally) about the Suns' dark period. They were the Playoff (if not Title) favorites after losing to the Bulls in 1993. And for couple of years (1994 and 1995), they had the chance to win it all, but failed to get past the Rockets despite a win away to close out (Rockets were eventual champs in both years). By 2004-08, the "seven seconds or less" era commenced but fell short again, lost to the Spurs 3 of 4 times (Spurs clinched Larry twice). Fans and bandwagons tell 2007 was rigged, citing "unfair" suspensions but dismissed the Suns were less than 5 minutes away (led as much as 10) in grabbing a 3-2 series lead despite shorthanded. And afaik, the Suns have the most NBA Finals appearances that ended as bridesmaids (0-3; 1976, 1993, 2021).
@plainsimple244
@plainsimple244 11 ай бұрын
That Michael Jordan Cocaine commercial was the funniest thing I've ever seen, even at the time I was laughing.... He was the guy flying through the air with his tongue out getting mad because he didn't get his way while losing his hair -- you telling me he wasn't on all that coffee?
@plainsimple244
@plainsimple244 11 ай бұрын
@@jmancali Well people realized this guy could get you arrested and that was dangerous; but Jordan didn't stop the cocaine usage in the NBA because it was everywhere in the 80's in every industry, it was like having pencils and pens around...it's just it was allowed but if you got caught then chances are you wanted to get caught....This guy Jordan really believed he was playing basketball for a living...remember that anti-drug policy was also noted by 'Say No To Drugs' with Nancy Reagan having that as her cause; so people would go into schools and have public service announcements like this using influential people to sway people not to take drugs and the dangers of drug usage and abuse ... because people saw what happened after Vietnam and guys growing up in the 80's that coffee was everywhere...but Jordan was funny but he didn't clean anything up, he was just a guy they had to look out for because could get a lot of guys arrested -- which means manipulation because he would have information on guys who were either using or moving the stuff or compromised -- good to have it out of the way but the word went out about Mike.... So you could use your connections with government to really manipulate who is on your team and the power you could have to make moves.
@J.Strantz
@J.Strantz 10 ай бұрын
Nah, MJ is just a psychopath, he drank, smoked, ate McDonald's before games, I think he lost his hair to steroids while trying to figure out the pistons.
@plainsimple244
@plainsimple244 10 ай бұрын
@@J.Strantz Yeah, anyone that treats you like an enemy because you win a game, that person is a nut...as far as him losing his hair and the steroids thing, that is hilarious....He couldn't beat the Pistons no matter what, the Pistons had to help him out by not shooting the ball in the 1991 ECF; Thomas took only 9 shots in game 1 and 9 in game 2; Laimbeer took only 7 shots in game 1 and 2 shots in game 2 while Dumars took just 10 shots in game 1 and 10 in game 3 and Chuck Daly played John Salley only 9 minutes in game 2 while playing Edwards 11 minutes in game 2 and just 9 minutes in game 3....So the Pistons had to help out Jordan by the coach not putting in their front-line guys major minutes and their scorers not shooting to make sure Chicago won; plus the Bulls had a 117-76 foul shot advantage from games 1-3, even if both teams shot 100%, no way the Pistons would have won any of those games...then Detroit had to break up their team by waiving Vinnie Johnson and trading James Edwards in the summer of 1991 in order to enable Jordan to keep winning in the 1991-92 season.
@sebastianliwinski222
@sebastianliwinski222 9 ай бұрын
​@@J.Strantz Jordan on steroids are you feeling well?
@J.Strantz
@J.Strantz 9 ай бұрын
@@sebastianliwinski222 I'm allowed to wonder why MJ went bald at 25. 😂 What I said doesn't make it fact or mean I know he was on the juice. I'm just speculating. I love MJ. Y'all chill out. 😅
@neneshubby
@neneshubby 4 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget when John Lucas was with the Warriors and was struggling with coke. He was their best player but he’d missed some games due to his drug issues but he seemed to be back on track when before a home game, in 80 I think I was listening on the radio when before the game the after introducing the Warriors the PA announcer said “John Lucas is not here at this time” and the crowd started booing because they knew it was drug related. That would NEVER happen today but I’ll never forget it.
@Mr4one6
@Mr4one6 11 ай бұрын
Good video, well done
@brachio1000
@brachio1000 4 ай бұрын
I remembered the drug scandal, but I didn't recall (or perhaps even realize) how deep it went.
@cousinwil5808
@cousinwil5808 11 ай бұрын
This is the year I moved to Phoenix and became a Suns fan as a kid 😂
@seanmcnally4818
@seanmcnally4818 11 ай бұрын
The title sums it up perfectly
@JamesAlexanderinternet
@JamesAlexanderinternet 11 ай бұрын
great reporting and synthesis -
@jefferyferrera3873
@jefferyferrera3873 11 ай бұрын
Football players were high too in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s
@BostonsF1nest
@BostonsF1nest 11 ай бұрын
Lol forget athletes altogether dude, most ppl were high in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. Almost everyone was snorting coke or smoking crack in the 1980’s. It didn’t matter who you were or what you did. At that point coke was viewed as a good thing. It made ppl more social and helped stay at home moms get chores done. There were ads in magazines and newspapers for cocaine utensils back then. Cocaine is also a huge reason why America went thru such a financial and building boom during the 80’s.
@renegalvez7920
@renegalvez7920 5 ай бұрын
Really? Cocaine as well or pain pills?
@louethegreat
@louethegreat 9 ай бұрын
This was amazing
@mrpotato4441
@mrpotato4441 5 ай бұрын
Love this!
@brianreyes3422
@brianreyes3422 5 ай бұрын
Extremely informative video 10/10
@bernadette85
@bernadette85 9 ай бұрын
I’m not a sports girlie, but I enjoyed your Baylor video and here I am 😂
@bballerforever
@bballerforever 11 ай бұрын
Very informative history, very depressing too.
@r3dyskunkteam904
@r3dyskunkteam904 5 ай бұрын
Love the background music
@johnsimmons3956
@johnsimmons3956 10 ай бұрын
Great video but what's the song at the end? I need that on the playlist
@myfavoritelezbo767
@myfavoritelezbo767 11 ай бұрын
Don’t let Camron see this 😂😂😂
@bryanklein6428
@bryanklein6428 11 ай бұрын
1986 new York Mets did coke, greenies (speed), liquor and weed. They managed to win the World series
@kerry-j4m
@kerry-j4m 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure they did with all those chemicals in their bodies. LOL.
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 11 ай бұрын
All was all scripted lol
@MizTheDonGargon
@MizTheDonGargon 11 ай бұрын
that's cuz when you're playing in nyc you get the most high quality shit. how you think Daryl strawberry hit all them homeruns?
@alfonsogreen2722
@alfonsogreen2722 11 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. Those were the BAD BOYS b4 the Pistons
@chuckvaughn3592
@chuckvaughn3592 11 ай бұрын
Good content 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@williewinston1498
@williewinston1498 11 ай бұрын
Man ......that picture of John lucas at 6:57 look ILL LMAO 🤣 🤣🤣🤣 higher than the Goodyear blimp🥴
@mehal5529
@mehal5529 11 ай бұрын
New follower 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@MrBmic
@MrBmic 10 ай бұрын
The Greyhound was my favorite basketball player, when i started watching the sport.
@beeemm2578
@beeemm2578 9 ай бұрын
Johnny High, Clyde Coke, Bill Bump, Ronnie Rail, Pete Pointshave, Al Koholic, They got everyone!!!
@lowtonecapone
@lowtonecapone 11 ай бұрын
Excellent work my guy! 🤩 These were definitely some grimey times in Phoenix…🏜️🏀 More NBA fans need to learn about these things. Gives people a chance to see what the franchises have gone through to still be here today. 😤
@devinmorrison2993
@devinmorrison2993 7 ай бұрын
Wtf do you have pop music playing at 9:40 for?
@moeseck7792
@moeseck7792 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating how I've never heard of this....
@jasonbryant6357
@jasonbryant6357 11 ай бұрын
"Johnny High" you know that dude was FUCKED up!
@mr.4leafclova866
@mr.4leafclova866 11 ай бұрын
Dennis Johnson was INVOLVED 👀 DAM... Rip
@75aces97
@75aces97 11 ай бұрын
He was implicated, but the source was questionable. There were a lot of players accused of cocaine use, and it hurt their standing in the sport, despite it being hearsay.
@averydaymond1560
@averydaymond1560 11 ай бұрын
@@75aces97 Everything you said is true I’ll give you that but while in Phoenix Dennis Johnson had a reputation as a sullen unreliable player. Then not long afterward in Boston the same Dennis Johnson had a reputation as a disciplined sound player. Maybe a complete coincidence but I highly doubt it.
@75aces97
@75aces97 11 ай бұрын
@@averydaymond1560 I don't doubt the sullen part. He just wasn't a warm, cuddly fellow who smiles for the camera. Not sure how true the unreliable part could have been. He had his best individual seasons in Phoenix, first team defense in each of his seasons there, and All-NBA first team on arrival. The Suns were one of several teams at the time with a perceived cocaine problem, so I don't know whether Johnson was guilty by association, or if he had one down year by his own standards and the press filled in an easy blank. This was a sore spot for me, in that the NBA 50th anniversary list was ridiculously political, and DJ was snubbed in favor of some egregiously lesser players. Likewise he was frozen out of the Hall until after death. I liked his game a lot, and this is from a fan who hates the Celtics.
@averydaymond1560
@averydaymond1560 11 ай бұрын
@@75aces97 Oh I was a fan of the Celtics and absolutely admired his game. He did amazing considering he wasn’t great shooting from 20 feet out. Also not the fastest guard at the time. Larry Bird said Dennis Johnson was the best player he ever played with. DJ and Bird had an awesome Synergy. The famous steal by Bird is the best example of that, DJ knew exactly where to be and what to do. You are correct on the top 50 player list, there’s many on there that weren’t near the player he was. On the sad part human interest wise I recall they interviewed the lady that was with Johnson when he died, they were walking to their car or something of that nature. Anyway she said Dennis was in great spirits and joking around laughing then all the sudden bam he was dead. Ya never know when it’s your time to go and we don’t always have warnings.
@josephD32
@josephD32 11 ай бұрын
@@averydaymond1560 could be one of those 'product of your environment' situations. The sullen, unreliable player could stem from the overall just bad team culture that there seemed to be at the time in Phoenix, where the move to Boston saw him playing in a far better team culture. RIP DJ.
@therealBlackTomato
@therealBlackTomato 11 ай бұрын
obscure sports content 👉🏾👈🏾
@infinityweay
@infinityweay 11 ай бұрын
The same thing happened to the 79 or 80 New Orelans Saints. George Rogers had to go on the stand. New Orleans had to tear the team apart and later being brough out.
@ScottyPeabody
@ScottyPeabody 11 ай бұрын
Great job, this wasn't a shocker at the time, as the NBA was in tatters. BTW, John McLeod, his last name is pronounced "McCloud". But that's a generation or two before your time.
@1990758
@1990758 11 ай бұрын
One things for sure when a player gets traded Do not assume the reason is because of what the media tells us
@Gbr4life35
@Gbr4life35 11 ай бұрын
I can't imagine Phoenix without the suns
@Danilo-f3e
@Danilo-f3e 11 ай бұрын
Dont do drugs stop it, coming from a guy with gambling problems..
@BELIKEJUATER
@BELIKEJUATER 11 ай бұрын
Hey at least it wasn’t drugs 😂
@toddstroger9505
@toddstroger9505 10 ай бұрын
It's a problem if you chase winning .
@631matthew
@631matthew 11 ай бұрын
seems like a lot of lives ruined for a bunch of non violent drug crimes
@Trancymind
@Trancymind 11 ай бұрын
Drug addictions leaves a long trail of destruction including Mexico and Colombia. If I was president of USA, I would put harsh jail sentences for illegal drugs usage/ selling and especially drug makers labs in homes and hidden places. Drugs addictions ruins peoples lives in so many different ways including birth defects.
@JoshuaHopkins-j9o
@JoshuaHopkins-j9o 11 ай бұрын
This team should be on the "all-time" list with the 96 Bulls or the 17 Warriors
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