What Really Happened Between Latrell Sprewell & PJ Carlesimo

[@NotoriousSSV]

This really is the first time I've heard a full breakdown of this story 😂

[@personalwilliamsaccount]

Me too 😂

[@andren8788]

Same. Wow! Thank God for podcasts like these

[@curtisthomas4908]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cheatm78]

Only time I’ve heard the question asked lol

[@tomevers6670]

I was there , they forgot about when Spree took off his shirt and shorts. And said “let’s measure, let’s measure.” No one else wanted to speak up. So we all shut up. Then PJ shockingly said “Ok.” PJ pulled out something huge. And said “You gotta give me more than that.” He’s like “if that’s all you gonna give me get the F out.”. Spree said “ I’m gonna F U.” Spree grabbed him by the throat. Ordered PJ to gag on it. Then Started going to Town on him. ALL SORTS OF WILD STUFF happened after. They played skins vs skins that night by Lake Merritt.

[@JoeyHuman]

Dickey Simpkins signed with the Bulls, shot 63% off the bench, got playoff mins for the first time and won his third ring after Warriors released him. Love that ending for him.

[@MrOctober44]

Nice

[@koreypaul6698]

Forgot about him

[@JamesHall415]

And he averaged 3.7 points that year

[@ElPerroGrandeNessi]

and Got 3 rings and played with the GOAT... @@JamesHall415

[@Nolibtards_allowed]

No one cares about the bulls stiffs (9-12) in the rotation

[@parkersutton3523]

Story mode is the best thing to happen in the world of player podcasts. Hearing these stories is entertainment on end. Please keep featuring the OG’s!

[@dmccartysr986]

Actually it’s sad…dude lost millions others were traded others were blackballed is what I got from this story. Bt hey it’s the American 🇺🇸 way I guess 🦅

[@zackkazco2098]

this is why espn is crap...they want to focus on woke nonsense and tell us how great they are

[@john_young]

ys

[@allpraisestoyah5033]

@@dmccartysr986that’s life lmao

[@hussienali7552]

MORE IMPORTANTLY TO LEARN THE INSIDE TRUTH.

[@raiderbigal1712]

Thanks for clearing up the Latrell Sprewell story for a old guy and life long warriors fan, those were hard days for us for many reasons but something I missed hearing after that was “Spree from 3”! Thanks my dudes!

[@DJ--ALLDAY]

Man, '94 Warriors Sprewell, C Webb, Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullen, was The Truth

[@HardworkMook]

They had a nice line up but didn't go nowhere or do anything!?!

[@Hrdwy]

That's because Tim Hardaway tore his knee. But they still made it to the playoffs

[@HardworkMook]

@@Hrdwy it was more than that they played a significant amount of time with each other,they had a good squad but they wasn't going anywhere it was more of individual play than as a team,even if Hardaway didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have really went anywhere,they was one of those teams with talent but wasnt going to get too far!;?!

[@Hrdwy]

@@HardworkMook I disagree because Tim Hardaway was the point guard so usually a good orchestrator like him we keep everybody balanced they was scorers not selfish players so him healthy at point would have helped them blossom keep in mind Webber and Sprewell were very young back then

[@Hrdwy]

I think Webber was already gone they had Joe Smith

[@kvaka009]

Robert Horry is solid for backing him up.

[@aneedkassim9727]

both Alabama alum. good stuff

[@jimmyjameson8705]

He's a punk like u

[@TRMHOU]

Real N...

[@leonidasmoran2552]

Comes through at clutch moments DNA

[@zacharylarson3923]

Spree for Three

[@xohxoh6531]

We need a 30 for 30 on this story. And the aftermath for each player that stood up. This would not fly in today’s era.

[@Lamar4mvp]

You’re absolutely right it wouldn’t. A player now would be banished from the league. As they should be..

[@darnellwilliams8783]

​​@@Lamar4mvpSprewell did nothing wrong PJ was disrespectful talking to another Grown Man like that period and of course the media made the black man the villain

[@dustinmosbrucker1347]

Exactly how the NBA molded Jordan into the phony goat of cuz the 89’a whipped his ahhh, nba gave Jordan All his DPOYS😊

[@LPjunemark]

​@@darnellwilliams8783how about the thieves on nike,jewelry and apple store. I'm sure no one provoked them. Stop making statements that all black people are good and innocent. All race can be good or evil.

[@mikebuckets]

​@@dustinmosbrucker1347 Phony post

[@x5p_]

"you got traded too?" "nah they CUT me" lmaooo

[@ricosauve5]

It worked out for Dickey. He went back to the Bulls that season and won his 3rd title

[@slasher5871]

😂😂😂

[@louio]

​@@ricosauve5wow...

[@DASwitcha]

Man you gotta love today's platforms where you can hear classic stories like this

[@derricklowe2823]

Dude predicted exactly what would happen when they stood up for and behind Latrell Spreewell. What I thought was cool was how he warned the younger players to stay back. Good looking out for the younger players and Spreewell 👍.

[@crulio]

25 years and we finally get some insight into what went down, salute to B-Shaw and those other guys for being real ones and standing with Spree!

[@MrBmick79]

You can imagine how PJ felt the night this happened. Can't think of anything more humbling than getting choked out cuz you was talkin outta pocket to somebody. This clip needs to go viral. Its gold

[@mykedynomite]

Yes. Now I know why Spree went broke 😂

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

could be lying

[@BigCheefaDaOG]

​@@mykedynomite he came up off them rims

[@mykedynomite]

@BigCheefaDaOG no he actually didn't it wasn't his company. It was a sponsorship deal he lost 97 mill, he makes about 150k year now as a nyk representative

[@KarlPostMalone]

PJ did a complete 180 coaching style after that ordeal. Remember there were free agents that didn’t want to play for GS while he was head coach and some even veto trades.

[@ddave7026]

Randolph Childress.. was the one of the Green Light dudes! Carlisemo detailed his career at Portland. Bum coach

[@bryankennedy3719]

​@@ddave7026I agree lol

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Lol no he didn't. Theres a reason he was HATED in Brooklyn

[@RobbieStacks90]

That's the last time he told anyone to put some f---ing mustard on his passes.

[@cappriment]

I worked for ESPN back in the day, 1 night after a game, I bumped into B Shaw at a bar. We had this near exact conversation that night.

[@HEAT4YOAZZ]

what u up to these days

[@gffsgcc]

He typed that from a bar​@@HEAT4YOAZZ

[@KwisBwown]

im GM of the Lakers fam @@HEAT4YOAZZ

[@BigA678]

It's so wild how certain type of people go out of their way to control the narrative and lie by omission

[@roycedot]

Username says cap😂

[@whodey2379]

The original “Fu@k around and find out”moment in NBA history 😂😂

[@T3l3MuNd0]

2:42 "he used to listen to Wu Tang all the time. . ." Yeah. . . Protect Ya Neck . . .😂🤣

[@WakaFlakaFlame777]

Haha good one 😂

[@sinnncere1680]

Bahahahaha!!

[@ConcertSeason23]

Underrated comment.

[@essenenazaritebrotherhood7352]

😁😂 😵💥🤛🏾

[@Emation7]

I was a huge Knicks fan as a kid and loved when Sprewell came to the Knicks. I did not like that certain sportscasters and reporters would never let the incident go. While Carlisimo went on to play victim and became a tv analyst.

[@ALmizzle415]

You must carry around a tiny violin everywhere you go.

[@DMalltheway]

Joe Smith talked about it on DJ Vlad

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

Same

[@eboooo]

I thought PJ took some blame from what I heard.

[@noodle123ify]

same, man. I was gonna say that as a Knicks fan i want to thank PJ for sending us Sprewell! one of my favorite Knick players

[@loganross1861]

Can always tell when someone is being honest and straight about something. Body language, speech. He wasn’t trying to twist the story or anything.

[@twizzy585ots]

Always is cap

[@code0102stinks]

I had the same reaction and thought from him telling the story.

[@travisp5747]

@@twizzy585ots right 😂

[@JosephTurner-ok6br]

Yes. Except for the wu quote "you don't want to F with a soldier"....lol

[@richardwilliams5842]

For years I've always heard that PJ yelled out you can't cut the mustard towards Spree and that's when Spree got triggered and went off on him, after all these years I finally get to hear what really went down SMH LOL

[@JoaquinTazabi]

Close, it was "put some mustard on it", which was White people talk for "throw it harder (the pass). Media is full of shit, but I already knew that.

[@juice07x]

Damn Brian Shaw is like the Forrest Gump of the NBA. He was around every great player and wild moments.

[@RoyPage1970]

He played everywhere

[@tro8191]

Which is why as a die hard born n raised in Oaktown Warriors fan, to this day, PROUDLY sport my SPREWELL jersey. I wore it to the victory parade in Oakland in ‘15 and ‘17 and while screaming for the team during the parade in the front row of the barricades, Adonal Foyle literally stopped his parade car, walked over to me and said “I love your jersey man”. Always a SPREE fan!!!

[@PistachiosPurses]

THERE YA GO!!! At least you know who the real ones are! ❤ Some of us weren't put on this planet for the BS!

[@tro8191]

@@PistachiosPurses u know it bro!!👍

[@vicshephard9231]

✊🏿✊🏿

[@ryanm5578]

Thanks for posting this. I've never heard the actual story before. Nuance can add much more to even long-held opinions, lol. Thanks again.

[@Jon-lp6qu]

Dude well spoken know how to tell a story dawg. No bullshit.

[@vharris5503]

I used to play basketball with someone who played at Seton when PJ was the coach. He flatly told me that he wasn't surprised when Sprewell choked him out cuz he used to talk to his players at Seton crazy

[@cutime6712]

I remember when Seton Hall made they final four run. I was watching a game and the CBS announcer at the time Bill Raftery said PJ need to stop hollering at his players

[@dantheman92317]

I know when Dan Hurley played for him it sounded like he had a real hard time.

[@adangracia3763]

Did he choke his players too? Just wondering.

[@OrionOodama]

Great storytelling from Brian Shaw. This definitely prompts to check other segments. Thanks for this feature (not to mention algorithm).

[@LaPelotaenlaCabeza]

As a longtime Warriors fan, I remember this being the very dark days where it seemed like everything would go wrong. A few years before this incident they had Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullin and Webber, NBA contenders and it all fell apart within a few weeks with Webber getting traded and everybody else getting injured. I had read about this incident so I figured there had to be some sort of build up before a player does that to a coach. While it's wrong, a coach has to earn the respect of the team and apparently that wasn't the case here.

[@DV-ou1yu]

Brian Shaw...didn't expect I would sit back and just listen to him. Good speaker.

[@taharqa332]

You're definitely a white guy. I've heard this so many times from your kind about black men.

[@DubbyDubois]

Y not? He's been around forever

[@DV-ou1yu]

@@DubbyDubois Doesn't mean he would be intereesting to listen too lol

[@GRiZZiNK]

Listening 2 Wu-Tang to later play 4 NY had 2 be dope lol

[@HoopsFYI]

"Regardless of rain or snow, sleet or hail / I kick street tales, choking 🥷 like I'm Sprewell / Golden State, holding your fate in the palm of my hand / Blow you away like it's a part of the plan" - Nature

[@Blowtorchtheboyfriend]

I gotta call it like I see it !!!!

[@Ant_Odom]

🔥 “Banned from TV”

[@DaPrognosis]

Classic line from Nature “Banned from T.V. off the N.O.R.E. album ‘98!!!!

[@kevinhousen2791]

​@@DaPrognosisone of the hardest tracks ever straight bars from everyone.

[@Where_Brklyn_At]

One of the greatest opening bars ever.

[@elcochino8139]

I live in San Antonio and used to be a chef at a restaurant PJ use to frequent. I can confirm he is an a**hole. He treated the servers like shit and didnt tip for shit. He brought in a whole 15 top of college kids. Got the meal free from the owner and still left a shitty tip.

[@malikmcclain7869]

Love hearing BShaw telling the Truth about this story. I was living in Golden State at the time, and attended many games. As a fan and local resident,Carlesimo's abrasive vibes never resonated with anyone, and you could feel the tension building on the run up to Spree checking him. I have never seen a strong display of Unity shown by the players in NBA history. B mentioned what Robert Horry did,..Strong. I won't tell the story about Spree's whip, but I hope that Podcast P can get Spree on to elaborate. His whip made the Batmobile look like a Pinto !!! Miss you BShaw.

[@chitzzz1384]

This shows how media destroyed spee, not taking his side of the story

[@MrOctober44]

Oh please. The guy was a violent thug. He had several violent run ins. Don't try to rewrite history

[@troylee4196]

Media destroyed a lot of players smh

[@MrOctober44]

Oh please. He was a violent thug.

[@andrewlowman8073]

I'm pretty sure choking his coach destroyed his career

[@heatman233223]

PJ deserved that shit. HE was warned and asked to leave spree alone. He pushed one more time and got them hands. When the players don't jump in right away, then knew he deserved that shit

[@Welldunn]

It’s like the Bill Burr standup when he said “I wonder what she did”. There’s always context that leads to an event and the choke didn’t just manifest itself out of nowhere. What PJ did would be constituted as creating a hostile workplace environment and lead to termination in any other workplace.

[@dwlc4288]

Plus retaliation to the players for sticking by Sprewell's side

[@davidsamuels9557]

Excellent point. As Shaw said, Carlesimo brought that Bobby Knight college BS to the NBA. A white man talking to grown Black men like they were slaves led to the choke out.

[@davidsamuels9557]

​@@dwlc4288💯

[@DD-sw1dd]

26 years later. “Here’s an oily rag!”

[@anthonylloyd6105]

That was dave chappelle

[@Slap1008]

We knew it! I say we cause anybody that really hoops ain’t gone choke they coach unless he was being disrespectful and overbearing

[@730FlightRisk]

😂😂😂😂

[@kinghov3695]

😂 got a point

[@gman2503]

Exactly 🎯 🎯🎯💯💯💯

[@KingAmaniImani]

What's crazy is the same day I was in college and was about to get at my college coach. Words were exchanged, suspension handed out, but with the support of my team, the college community and my accountability plus an apology to my team and the coach we were able to reconcile.

[@kincamell2]

Gratitude for sharing I had the Sprewell Converse Acropolis. Fam was nice on the court. He was the franchise.

[@tellall23]

I cant believe it took me all this time to finally hear the full breakdown of the story! Thanks Brian!

[@johnjung8394]

As a long time Knicks fan Spree helped us get to the finals off the bench! Even though we didnt win he played hard for us! I still have my knicks spree jersey!!

[@junebugboy5074]

what year? Sprewell was almost always a starter

[@006ahenry]

Lifelong Knicks fan here, I own 2 Knicks jerseys. A Blue Sprewell & a white Oakley jersey. If I could only find an affordable John Starks Jersey

[@johnjung8394]

@@junebugboy5074 99

[@derrick031072]

Bench? Wasn’t he a starter?

[@tro8191]

Good stuff! I still sport my Spree Warriors jersey!

[@jzk0517]

“I’m Latrell Sprewell I’ll choke the coach” -Lil B

[@discowolf25]

“I choke the coach out like I’m sprewell!”

[@dariousgraham6438]

I don’t remember that bar 😂

[@ChloeHotline]

That hoop life mixtape he had was fye lol

[@DaveBradleyComedy]

TYBG

[@gibbsdmarcus]

😂😂 classic

[@Thickercarton]

Latrell was done wrong. He even warned PJ. There are some people if you f around you will find out, Latrell was one of them.

[@ambroseathleticsvb]

Thanks guys great info from the father side of coach and supporting our children

[@keithr.hammonds6653]

Great to hear the details finally, but we knew the deal when it happened. Even Rod Strickland, who played under PJ previously made the comment, “…and y’all thought it was just me.”

[@DJRhude]

This is legit the first time I'm hearing this story from a player who was actually there. For years we only got the version the Warriors organization put out that painted Sprewell as a thug but I always knew better. I never rocked with Carlesimo, he didn't know how to talk to grown men without being disrespecful. I was so happy when the Knicks got Sprewell, he was a dawg.

[@keymusabe7207]

He “⚫️” that’s why

[@catastrophecookies6066]

I actually always thought Sprewell was a headcase(I was a kid when this happened)- crazy what a narrative can do 😅

[@KClouisville]

@@catastrophecookies6066 He was a headcase....read up on this actual incident. Shaw oddly leaves out the fact that after the initial choking, Sprewell went to the showers and then went and found PJ and came out of nowhere attacking him again. He'd also been in notable fights with teammates before this incident, including one with Jerome Kersey where after the fight he came back with a two-by-four like he was Hacksaw Jim Duggan or something. Dude has had multiple legal issues since his playing days as well.

[@jacobliston7339]

@@catastrophecookies6066 My brother in Christ, he choked his coach. He *is* a headcase.

[@superflick100]

No surprises that the white establishment would side with the coach and paint Sprewell as the villain.

[@alvin081988]

It's pretty obvious PJ was provoking Sprewell and the Anger switch got triggered

[@mranderson8725]

Doesn’t matter as black men we need to learn to control our anger

[@Salhd10]

Provoking ?? Mf he’s the head coach , gee trynna have the team give more effort , they were losing.

[@flodging]

@@mranderson8725 “as black” 😑

[@allidoiswin9891]

​@@flodgingright tf lol we ain't the only ones losing our cool, white boys shooting up schools every week. Stop generalizing

[@jessicagalvan3358]

@@Salhd10they wasn’t losing cause spreewell they was losing cause they was trash..u see Steve Kerr yelling at klay and Wiggins and them? U see pop yelling at his team? U seen Phil yelling at Kobe? Or even pau? Or arrest? U seen smiths yelling at arrest and Jackson? Nah mf atfu

[@thegod625]

I respect these brothers standing up for they brother... That's how we all need to be...

[@Lorenshyne]

Its good to listen to such an intelligent guy like Brian Shaw

[@nessdagoat]

B Shaw is the guy! Knew him since I was a kid. He used to be real cool with Reggie Lewis back in the day

[@nicolasaguilar1258]

He seems like an awesome dude

[@botmonmon6089]

Ray lewis?

[@botmonmon6089]

Reggie Bush?

[@Gemini_74]

Cap

[@wheresyosefbenyosef]

RIP

[@Where_Brklyn_At]

I don’t know any Wu-Tang songs that go; “you don’t wanna fuck with a soldier.” Sounds like No Limit to me.

[@missayawk]

I was thinking the same. Just the word " SOLDIER" alone is not Wu vocab.

[@nyckyfossitt432]

He was probably thinking about Wu Tang ain't nothing to f with...

[@ehunt]

It was no limit shaw is just older wu tang and no limit is the same thing to him

[@Just_A_Name14]

@@ehuntthen he’s suffering from dementia

[@LegacyBridge]

I didn't realize that trades and a cut happened behind that. They gave the warning to the younger guys though. They knew it was comin'.

[@davidsamuels9557]

Shaw may not condone what Spree did, but I do after hearing what happened. Props to Shaw and the other players who rode with Spree.

[@shabbykuka5395]

That’s why I’ve ALWAYS said. There is always more to the story than what any organization or media puts out. Pump your brakes on jumping to conclusions especially on day one.

[@nanagyambibi7426]

As someone that worked in college sports…the head coach in college is damn near a God…but in the pros, you are damn near coworkers. You are leading these men but you cannot disrespect them.

[@bjnt922]

Even Pop who’s know to be a hard nosed, no nonsense coach understands this.

[@NotEnuff8]

​@@bjnt922cuz he respects hard work and discipline. He see nothing outside the lines of work ethic. I tend to respect those who keep business business and we don't know much about them personally

[@davejeffar6271]

As a starter small-forward, but he was undersized (6'4). Alan Houston played shooting-guard, but switched with Spree on defense.

[@Mrcool19771]

Interesting, a few years later , former NBA player and Bulls GM John paxson , was mad at bulls coach Vinny Del negro , came to a practice and choked the coach , the NBA kept this quiet and nothing was done to Paxson. Quite a double standard.

[@athleticchipnyc]

You already know the deal with that situation compared to the Spree-PJ confrontation 🙄

[@Ffoo_ffighter]

Yes.

[@gobot581]

Bulls GM Paxson choking Negro is a wild headline

[@Des_Zee]

Remember that was still David Sterns NBA. It was his way or the highway

[@chicaliqc]

As the refs and owners were running wild!

[@jackjohnsonjohnson8610]

Yep allowing refs to turn first class seats in for a refund then flying coach,fixing games,targeting players,and disallowing legitimate trades so others could prosper

[@anthonyjones634]

Yep. The league was definitely different back then. Players were damn near treated like slaves for real. Gag orders, blacked balled, cut, and traded for standing together and speaking out.

[@pdigi3179]

@@anthonyjones634 and now the NBA is a complete trash product and damn near unwatchable. There absolutely has to be order and hierarchy.

[@uptbo2025]

Latrell Sprewell was one of my favorite players when he was wit the Twolves. Him, San Cassell & KG was my first basketball team I actually watched play

[@mikedecembre743]

A disrespectful coach ruined a player’s career then played victim

[@rexracer5292]

The truth is he wasn't that good. He was lazy. His best year he was the 5th best scorer with a 41 percent fg percentage. He wasn't a great rebounder, passer, teammate. He only excelled at causing trouble. He never won a single championship. When your coach yells at you to try harder .. you try harder.. Unless you think you are too good to try harder. No one had to tell Jordan, Kobe or other true greats to try harder. He had many more years in the NBA with other teams and he wasn't great when Carlismo was not there... his stats just kept getting worse. No one remembers him as a great. He could not follow simple rules. JAJAJAJAJA

[@NatesLiveTalk]

Your trippin...sprewell was very good and was a all star!​@@rexracer5292

[@Jerrybonds25]

😂

[@tonth1383]

​@rexracer5292 PJ Carlisle should have stayed his a** in college and talked to them College kids like that. Hey, lucky spree Didn't break his m************ Jaw, you gotta give respect to get it when you're dealing with grown men. Don't talk s*** and then when that pressure come play the m************ victim.

[@robertbui9030]

​@@rexracer5292 if he wasn't 'that good', why did he end up as the leading scorer for the Knicks in the 1999 NBA Finals? He averaged 26.0 PPG btw against a young Tim Duncan and David Robinson (Allan Houston averaged 21.6)

[@christiantrujillo4923]

Brian Shaw is real af

[@hoosier3060]

We loved him when he was assistant with the Pacers. It was nice to see him and Paul interact outside of that.

[@JKG_Brandon]

Warriors Sprewell was on track for greatness man. Dude was my favorite player in the league back then. I have legit hate in my heart for PJ to this day. This just reaffirms all that.

[@georgekouts]

Not too bright, are ya? I'm guessing you're not white either! lmao

[@RobbieStacks90]

He was still great on the Knicks, and this incident actually helped his legacy because now there are young fans who weren't even alive in '97 who know about him. If he had never choked out P.J. Carlesimo, he'd be as memorable as Mitch Richmond.

[@briansprewell5844]

Cuz stood on business 😂😂😂

[@getmoneychill6462]

Nah that was pretty stupid.Spree lost millions because he couldn’t control his emotions

[@briansprewell5844]

@@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect.

[@briansprewell5844]

@@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect

[@reiserkeiser]

Cuz acted the part.

[@zacharypate8956]

@@getmoneychill6462 negative that man knew what he was doing. Authority doesn’t allow you to disrespect your players repeatedly. He told him to fine him, told him to not bother him. Those re GROWN men with parents, families, and people that love, respect and adore them. If players can fight players he did what he deemed necessary. He’s probably living a better life than you nd me both.

[@allaboutgin]

Thanks, Brian for this awesome story. We Dubs fans had lots of unanswered questions. We always loved Spree and never trusted PJ. This clears up a lot of shit.

[@goldenfreddy-gj5wy]

This incident is one I have never forgotten, even though I'm not a Warriors fan, I always wondered what happened, Latrell Spreewell never strike me as someone who would do something like that out of the blue, now it all makes sense.

[@johngalt60]

Did you know this idiot's pit bull attacked his own daughter?!

[@brkjeff]

*Spree & Allan Houston🔥🧊* *Fire & Ice*

[@TommyDJr45]

I ALWAYS wanted to know more about this!

[@oMaJoJ]

9 year old me had some pretty good intuition. My first thought was 'I wonder what his coach did to deserve that. That doesn't seem like something a person would just do.'

[@PutridPenguinPoots]

100%. My first thought was "Damn that's crazy but there's got to be some reason why someone would just randomly choke their coach" Can't remember if sprewell was too or just showed up some but Horry and other basketball and football players were my student gym teachers in elementary school i.e. easy credits to hang out with kids so even as a Tennessee fan always followed those dudes in the league

[@johngalt60]

Good to know you haven't matured since you were nine. 🙄

[@CooreValues]

Wow great take on this

[@thescmoney]

Great interview

[@CreamyItalian]

Can't keep poking the bear. From the beginning, it always sounded like the whole picture wasn't being shown to the public.

[@uriellevelupriley684]

💯🎯

[@byrondhouston]

I remember when Sprewell and I got into it in practice at Golden State! He was a great guy and fierce competitor.

[@MattMoseley-zu5ss]

Like former player Byron Houston?

[@byrondhouston]

That is me!

[@markextv]

So pretty much PJ provoked Latrell? Got it!

[@Marc-n5e]

Whatever you thugs wanna believe

[@bjensen]

​​@@Marc-n5e PJ absolutely provoked Sprewell. Sprewell shouldn't have choked him but being the head coach doesn't mean you can be an asshole with impunity. Do you just simp for the coach each time? Do you think Bobby Knight (Lucifer rest his soul🙏) was a thug for choking his players, and then lying about? Or was that different somehow?

[@JoaquinTazabi]

​@@bjensenYou shut that anonymous racist right up

[@trell_money7789]

​@@Marc-n5e I guess tht means P.J. goofy a$$ a thug too for provoking Sprewell u 🤡

[@shaheemtaylor960]

@@Marc-n5e You have to be a troll

[@nursemcfarlane6655]

Power Dynamic at work 1. Incompetent coaching 2. Gag order on players 3. Corporation PR spin 4. Media spin 5. Trade players Instead of removing coach they trade the veteran players.

[@DanielEscamillaPueblo]

This was about a year or two before I became a Warriors fan, I was 7 at the time but I always heard about this and it is nice to finally get the full breakdown.

[@terrygoosedowning171]

Great story about Spree, one of my fav players from his time with Knicks

[@marby.]

That went beyond coaching and spilled into challenging one's manhood. Was it wrong to attack him physically? Yes, but PJ provoked the situation all the way

[@johnnguyen6469]

A person who is that easily provoked has no place in a civil society

[@johnnguyen6469]

What exactly did he say, did he talk about his mother even? Give me a break. He was coaching him hard that is all

[@shaheemtaylor960]

@@johnnguyen6469coaching hard is different from cursing the dude out disrespecting him. Huge difference between the two

[@joemama-nq9ve]

tell me why carlesimo went after sprewell the most, why not everybody else?@@johnnguyen6469

[@jaycurry5593]

​@johnnguyen6469 a person who tries to provoke another doesn't belong in a civilized society. Wanna play victim...smfh

[@walterwlim]

6:07 Felton Spencer: RIP

[@gregorylagrange]

"...and he brought some of that college shyt over to the NBA, and that ain't gonna fly." And that, in a nutshell, is the main reason college coaches are so against NIL. And I knew at the time that this is how it was likely to really have went down. As hard as Spree played, nothing had ever been said about any problems, then to have this happen with a coach that was recently coaching in college, I knew it was the way Carlesimo thought he could talk to grown men and not college athletes he could use a scholarship as leverage and protection.

[@keithknox5829]

From Day One I have always been of the opinion just what did PJ Carlisimo actually say to Latrell Sprewell. Not that it excuses the laying of hands on somebody. But you just can’t say anything to a grown a$$ man and not expect some pushback. And based on what Brian Shaw is saying along with several of Latrell’s teammates standing with him afterwards and many getting traded, that sheds a whole different kind of light on this story. It almost gives me the feeling that maybe the coach wanted him gone. And Latrell took the bait.😮

[@bigpoppa6658]

Them 90s OGs built different. Not scared of anything, that's how to played and approached the game. Reason why they played more defense and not scared of the physicality

[@bernyourhart]

Seeing Joe Smith at the airport “you got traded too?” 😂 “Nah they cut me” 💀

[@jaycurry5593]

Dickey Simpkins got cut...not Joe Smith, tf you talkin bout?

[@terencejones22]

You clearly didn't listen well enough because that ain't even what b-shaw said fam

[@spencerwhitsett9350]

​@@jaycurry5593😂😂

[@jayrule13]

This was a great synopsis of this situation. I knew about PJ being verbally coarse wih the players, but it is good to really find out the build-up to the incident and the fallout.

[@40STILLGAMING]

A grown man keeps harassing another grown man and gets choked for it. But, only one person actually gets in trouble. And everyone else who knows the truth gets suppressed or traded. Why am I not surprised by this.

[@JStarx_1]

What Wu-tang song is that 😂😂

[@hello.gumption]

When Sprewell was on and mentally into the game, it was poetry. I've never seen aggression meet finesse like that.. then and now. And he was a legitimate 2 way player. Legitimate, expend bulk energy on the best perimeter player then go and do some damage on offense. Fastest guy in the League. Dialed-in, prime '93, bald head, 1st Team Sprewell was on another level. What makes me lose my mind: Tim Hardaway recently said Sprewell never practiced in the off-season. He only worked during the season and then disappeared back home. He was a natural at this game.

[@keithmurray3827]

And Sprewell didn't have a left hand and was STILL giving buckets 😂

[@hello.gumption]

@@keithmurray3827 To this day I still don't how this happens. The man made 1st team all NBA and 2nd team all defense. Scouting on him was make him dribble left. One of the most interesting players ever to pass through.

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

PJ should've left well enough alone 😂 😂😂😂.

[@ufukpolat3480]

Golden State wasn't well enough. Sprewell was an inefficient shot chucker.

[@2H2521]

⁠@@ufukpolat3480Carmelo Anthony & Russell Westbrick are the true definition of inefficient.

[@kinghov3695]

@@2H2521😂

[@taharqa332]

He knew he had "WHITE" on his side.

[@vicshephard9231]

I think PJ knows better now.

[@JoePesciVSBillyBatts]

99 Spreewell Knicks is the first team I ever rooted for. Great player for 2-3 years.

[@je9212]

You do know sprewell was a 3× time All Star with Golden State warriors before the Knicks he was Arguably the 2 best SG in the Entire NBA from 93-97💥

[@originalgameronline3457]

I remember when PJ Carlesimo was a College coach , he was a little rough & abrasive like a lot of college coaches back then. But he made a mistake bringing a "College Coach" attitude to a Grown Man's League called the NBA. These dudes weren't going to school , weren't worried about losing a scholarship , weren't worried about you calling their parents. These were grown men with kids to feed & when you speak to a grown man the way he spoke to Sprewell , you better damn well expect to get yanked up real quick. That's called reality.

[@tro8191]

B. Shaw tellin the truth! Thank you for breakin it down for us my fellow Dragon! BOD class of ‘86!

[@vanessagrayman2194]

Sounds like a good ole boys club back then…

[@ryandavis6245]

You have his jersey and still can't spell Sprewell, lol.

[@mranderson8725]

@@ryandavis6245😂😂😂

[@vanessagrayman2194]

@@ryandavis6245 🌽 🏀

[@vanessagrayman2194]

@@mranderson8725 🌽 🏀

[@blackceaser1819]

Still is

[@Barncore]

Great story tellin

[@mickeyraps]

*He was listening to "Protect your neck"*

[@user-wt7qg1sd5v]

One of the greatest acts of rebellion in the history of sports. The overseer gets attacked rightly by the slave

[@justinsadowski9823]

I’ve been watching the NBA since 1986…this was equally as hilarious as it was sad. I remember when this went down as an NBA fan, and a high school basketball player in the late 1990’s…I always suspected this had something to do with someone in a polo shirt talking to someone in a tank top, as if the type of shirt determines absolute power…when in reality, it only holds contextual or illusionary power. Thanks for the clarity B-Shaw

[@8mathdaddy]

Shaw is a really good storyteller. 👍

[@solonfroilan897]

After all these years.. I was always curious to both sides of the story

[@michaelallen8112]

PG breaking stories🔎💬

[@shawnhubbard7056]

The NBA really made Sprewell out to be a villain after that.

[@ZDiddy7777]

A grown man assaulting his boss at work cause his boss yelled at him and hurt his ego? Sounds like a total villain with the emotional maturity of a child. A guy being mean to him at work, so he attacked him physically? Yea, 100% in the wrong and any consequences that resulted where of his own making and ONLY his fault. Unfortunately, accountability and personal responsibility no longer exist today, so it may be hard for younger people to understand.

[@shawnhubbard7056]

@ZDiddy7777 The thing about being a grown man is setting boundaries and not tolerating disrespect. He dealt with it how he saw fit, lived with the consequences, and finished his career on a high note. Nobody gives a damn what you think, btw.

[@BacktothaBaysiccs510]

I was 11 years old on 38th n foothill east oakland n remeberd this..im 37 now n its the first time hearing from a teamate about it.

[@dj_mista_b]

A bit of a residual from the Chris Webber trade. Felt the Warriors were cursed from that trade until Steph feel in their lap. Yeah, "we believe" lasted a year but that blew up too lol. The Warriors been bringing back a lot of older players for "appreciation" nights lately. Always felt they should have a Spree night or just acknowledge him... or just an apology since hardly NONE of those staff around connected to the Warriors anymore...AND PJ instigated the whole thing. Spree did make an all-nba first team and a few all-star teams with the Warriors. I'd argue he's one of the greatest two-guards in Warriors history with Thompson and Richmond. Sidenote - Maybe it's time some of these podcast interview Spree. Would love to see it.

[@poloregal]

Trading Chris Webber after his rookie szn was all Nellie, and to do that without him playing with Tim Hardaway, is sickening. Same way they traded Mitch Richmond away after making the WCF.

[@dj_mista_b]

@@poloregal omg NEVER seeing Hardaway throw a lob to Webber was one thing I couldn't get over as a young sports fan =(

[@FuShengAlex]

​@poloregal It was CWebbs fault mostly!! Nellie went to NY and didn't fit. Whiny CWebb cried his way to Washington and did absolutely nothing. Unseld (r.i.p.) had enough of him He was talented....but never a leader, never wanted to be accountable. He ruined what coulda been a great thing in GS!

[@wmbriggz]

P j had a very foul mouth… (at that time) … that was why he was fired from Portland…. “M…ref…r” … was not the only cuss word that he routinely used…. / directed at the players… later on, he cleaned up his mouth and had a respectful assistant coaching career.

[@marquesedeshields4045]

Sprewell with Wu Tang in his headphones is a crazy combo

[@Philsimpromptu]

This is great, I am a die hard warriors fan, and Latrell was my favorite player. When that came out I was distraught. It’s nice to hear the full story.

[@tatesinclair1059]

Nope, pretty sure choking another human is bad.

[@luismyarias8914]

Pretty sure he had it coming

[@chuckbury2212]

Don't try to change my hair then. They just started making anti discrimination laws for hair last year. There can finally be a blue headed guy in the meeting or a women with braids and u can't fire them or make them feel out of place 😮😮