White House Farm Murders - Encounters with Evil - S01 EP06 - True Crime

[@jojo1234a]

When my father died, I was as normal as could be for months and months. We were exceptionally close, best friends even, yet on the day of his funeral I was going through the motions and thinking about whether I should pop to the supermarket afterwards to get some food shopping in. No crying. I smiled at the funeral to greet everyone while everyone around me was in floods of tears. Dad died in a horrific way, and far too young. It transpired that my brain was protecting me from the terrible things I had witnessed and been through, I was in shock for the best part of a year. I’m not suggesting Jeremy is innocent or guilty, I’m just telling my story. One day about a year later, I was in the middle of a very mundane day, and it hit me at once like a freight train. All the fear, anger, sadness, deep deep despair, denial, all the stages of grief. I now have PTSD and significant anxiety, yet I still often manage to hide my tears for behind closed doors, when I’m alone. We all cope differently, particularly to crueler more horrific events.

[@angeesteiner8493]

I am so grateful for Emma Kenney and the experts to educate us. For example, I did not know that someone who shoots his parents, sister and 2 young nephews was an evil person. I was going to have him over at my place for dinner, thanks for the heads up.

[@nanaof6babies]

I was gonna offer them a room for the night...

[@orionxtc1119]

nice dark humour

[@Tony-q5c9j]

l agree with the sarcasm. but in rreality jeremy bamber is innocent for 20 odd years i believed he was guilty. but i looked again at the case a few years ago.and all the so called evidence as been debunked .the phone logs do really exist the silencer was never used the weapen in the first place that was the main plank of the prosecution case .and the police were speaking to sheila in the house when jeremy was outside with the police.not even houdini or david copperfield could pull that magic trick off being in two places at once

[@8888Dino8888]

That’s if he did it there’s no evidence

[@Kill--alllll---IDF]

@8888Dino8888 there's no evidence because ther are millions of cases wen the offender just about gets away and doesn't leave evidence , but do I think Jeremy did it or not OFCOURSE HE DID because ther is noooooo way neville got beat up by sheila no way . The correct man is behind bars

[@ruppertale3319]

His sister was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic and he called the police number rather than 999 because had done that in the past. The police were not suspicious until his relatives (who had a huge financial motive) began to present theories to the police. The physical evidence is not persuasive-the silencer was found in a closet long after the house had been searched by police (and why would a killer leave this crucial piece of evidence at the crime scene?) and the prosecution LIED when they said that his sister was the only person whose blood type matched the blood on it. And why won't they allow DNA testing on this blood? The main witness against him was a bitter ex-girlfriend, and her account included details from others that were wrong. She also sold her story for 25,000 pounds. His conviction is highly questionable.

[@paperchain1239]

Narcissist behaviour, smiling, guilty mind games. Guilty as sin. JB

[@richardroberts-h2e]

Bamber is not guilty

[@Farah4AFG]

Hazel dated Tia’s mum first and then dated her mother !! Strange arrangements

[@contorta960]

4:14 "Dead from shotgun wounds?" It was a 22 calibre rifle, wasn't it? Why have inaccurate reports in a documentary made today? Surely that doesn't help anyone online generates more confusion?

[@Venmaylove]

I'm fluffier than you

[@lillypuddy]

things very off with this case....the very early clean up...the family given access to the house so soon......the silencer is a huge issue for me and how it was found....

[@jenougherfan]

Why would The Dad call Jeremy and not 999 if his daughter had a gun. That just makes no sense.

[@dbgoestotheinternet7609]

Did anyone check if the parents had asked a local family to foster the children or is it only according to Jeremy?

[@marthaperdew]

I think another family member did it because that person wanted the property

[@theobjectivethinker64]

Irrespective of whether Jeremy Bamber is guilty or not, I find it worrying that he was convicted on the evidence of the silencer and his girlfriend Julie Mugford's testimony, both of which could have been falsified evidence for their own motive.

[@ruppertale3319]

The New Yorker magazine has a great article that casts doubt on those two pieces of evidence and the rest of the case.

[@Morebrokkoli7]

Let's not forget the phone call he made to the police station the night of the murders. He claimed his father rang him to let him know his sister had gone mad and had grabbed hold of a weapon. That is an incredibly odd account. A war veteran worried about his daughter holding a rifle doesn't waste any time making phone calls to his other son. Anybody in the same situation would have taken an action. Also, on the same phone call Jeremy hears no gunshots, he reports nothing but the words of his father, whose larynx by the way was lacerated. He wouldn't have been able to speak at all. Also, while we all know that we all react differently, let's keep in mind that Jeremy wasted no time insulting his sister right after the fact and tried to sell her nudes to the press.

[@theobjectivethinker64]

@@Morebrokkoli7 Don't get me wrong, I am not saying he is innocent or guilty rather I am saying the case evidence is suspect. He probably did it but the case was badly handled.

[@Morebrokkoli7]

@@theobjectivethinker64 I totally agree with you there. The way the police handled this specific case is absolutely infuriating.

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

@@Morebrokkoli7all hear say.

[@dbgoestotheinternet7609]

Not fair to call Neville bullying imo. The man may have been intimidating but bullying is something else.

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

Neville was a lovely man. I knew all the family well.

[@karennavara8065]

He did it it was pre meditated he definitely did it x

[@ruppertale3319]

There is a long article in The New Yorker that makes a very strong case for his innocence.

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

He didn’t

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

Stuart Hazel was a bent copper. He ruined an innocent man’s life to save face. No one on his team thought Jeremy did it

[@StarChild1884]

From what I've heard and read, Jeremy didn't even do it! What, just because he didn't react to hearing his family were dead? I didn't react when the police came to tell me my mum had died. Like at all. Doesn't mean I didn't love her. They were right the first time I think.

[@philgarlic8047]

You've been hearing and reading all the wrong things, presumably by Bamber's deluded supporters! There is absolutely no doubt that he killed his family, period.

[@rashone2879]

Oh, I thought you were joking. What does Jeremy’s behavior have to do with your response to your mum’s death…are you the model for all behavior?

[@StarChild1884]

There was literally no evidence. The silencer was planted later by the family who couldn't accept Jeremy inheriting the estate this has been thoroughly researched. It wasn't even human blood they found on it. A complete stitch up but this descends into the narrative that fits. Get your facts right!

[@samiblank6761]

just a couple of things to consider but theres lots more.1,after loading the magazine at least twice and than firing 26 shots police could find no traces of gunshot residue on her hands or on her nightie or anywhere else on her body there was no lubricant on her hands from loading bullets which are coated in lubricant not a trace.2 she fired 26 shots and hit the target every time even though neville was on the move after being shot firstly in the bedroom he managed to reach the kitchen receiving further shots on the stairs ,she never missed ,impossible in my opinion as she had no interest what so ever in guns plus the rifle used was a semi automatic meaning when you insert a loaded magazine in the rifle you must chamber a round before the rifle will fire to chamber a round on that rifle you must pull back on a little UNMARKED lever which sheila would not know about having never fired any firearms in her life .the only experience she had was walking along side jeremy while he was firing guns .jeremy is a child killer who wont be coming out anytime soon

[@factorylad5071]

Can't blame him for having fun at a funeral I suppose.

[@8888Dino8888]

If it’s soo clear cut why have Essex police covered everything up

[@elizaf.9040]

Jeremy = classic narcissist. He killed them. But he'll keep fighting until the end

[@RobertSmith-vl5gc]

You need evidence for a conviction, not a personality analysis. The evidence shows Jeremy is innocent, narcissist or not.

[@RobertSmith-vl5gc]

You need evidence for inn a conviction, not a personality analysis. The evidence shows Jeremy is innocent, narcissist or not.

[@RobertSmith-vl5gc]

You need evidence for a conviction, not a personality analysis. The evidence shows Jeremy is innocent, narcissist or not.

[@RobertSmith-vl5gc]

Sorry I did not type this 3 times.

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

He didn’t

[@christopherjones67]

This case is far more complicated.

[@tailsnclaws]

Absolutely no morals in most parts of the world. Imagine getting pregnant by one man at the age of 17 and marrying another with the baby bump. Evil begets evil. When will people realize this?!

[@abbiemarshall5140]

You are the kind of person that shouldn't be allowed to comment on these things. The women was murdered! Heartless

[@suemcgregor9248]

Except he beat her up on their wedding night. Stop victim-blaming, he saw a vulnerable girl and married her so he could control her

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

It was not Jeremy. It was Ann Eaton did it. She was in that house a day later. She now lives in the house. And owns everything. I knew the family well. Met Jeremy too. He did not do it

[@souksmith4492]

Shameful how lazy the police were!

[@crystalshaw8744]

Are.

[@andybt3989]

Initially the Inspector was! Though his Sergeant soon smelled a rat!

[@trevorhart545]

ONE Detective, a Sergeant, stuck with it DESPITE been warned off by his Boss, the Inspector. My source was a family that new the murdered parents very well. They all knew it WAS JEREMY, NO DOUBTS, 100%.

[@kareenwatson6084]

Let me see how long he will spend in prison.

[@Ann-sj4pt]

Till he d ies

[@philgarlic8047]

The rest of his life obviously.

[@alexanderspear9464]

It's been 38 years !

[@DerekJames-r6u]

Very biased against Jeremy,the marks the silencer made on the kitchen was made after the murders. There's lots more evidence that supports Jeremy like Neville phone call to police saying his daughter has gone berserk with a firearm. Do your research

[@theobjectivethinker64]

Yes I am worried about the evidence that convicted him, he may or may not be the killer, but they did not prove it in court in my opinion. Evidence could have been planted, shocking to discover that they let extended family members free reign in the house, days later, plenty of opportunity to tamper with the evidence. Julie Mugford's testimony is strange too, so long after the fact.

[@jhineskkabernard1626]

I believe you are all missing one important fact - he claimed his dad had called him to say that Sheila was attacking them. Of course he is guilty, if not for this detail his claim of innocence could be credible

[@mindiw2699]

Who's fingerprints were found on the bullet casings?

[@campbellgraham1979]

I think Jeremy Bamber was guilty but was there enough evidence for a conviction?

[@RobertSmith-vl5gc]

Your comment doesn't really make sense, you are doubtful about the evidence, yet you think Jeremy is guilty. The standard of the court is that is that defendant must be found guilty, BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. This video gives only one bigoted side of the story. If you search " phone logs whitehouse farm murders" you will see that Jeremy's dad DID make a phone call to police saying, " my daughter has gone beserk, and has got hold of one of my guns. Check ALL of the evidence and you will see that Jeremy is innocent.

[@FuriousStyles-f5w]

No evidence whatsoever.

[@alexanderspear9464]

Agreed. It isn't beyond doubt.

[@andybt3989]

Yes! There was two possible scenarios and if you go study the evidence it’s 100% certain it couldn’t have been her! No finger prints on the trigger! No gunshot residue on her hands! Unless she managed to shout herself twice and then go wash her hands!

[@campbellgraham1979]

@@andybt3989 but that doesn’t prove it was Jeremy who fired the shots

[@wensday21]

13:50 pressurising?

[@wayneh1455]

Evidence shows that jeremy bamber is innocent

[@mslondoner185]

His girlfriend looks like a young Elizabeth Taylor

[@ThuyPham-on4cx]

Yes us Stephen he live in the back please get him arrested he try iorn my window underneath the house. Inside alsob

[@DerekJames-r6u]

I hate Stuart hazel, if i spoke my mind i would be banned from u tube

[@cristinareid9923]

if we see how it was handled of course his prints were there as tried to stop it, this i feel from reading all and book thatthe schizoprenic sister die this and he used as scape goat and he is innocent here displays over the years should told us something and with the pressure of marriage and family this powder keg waiting go up

[@michaelrejoinbradford1282]

He never did it most were fitted up in them days

[@itsmeagain7825]

Please take your irrefutable proof to the courts.

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

I agree. Lots of people even officers took it to the main copper. The noncy one. He wouldn’t listen.

[@FuriousStyles-f5w]

No way jeremy did this.

[@andybt3989]

Err! Yes he did!

[@itsmeagain7825]

So who did?

[@theobjectivethinker64]

@@itsmeagain7825 Interesting question, could there be another 3rd party.

[@itsmeagain7825]

@@theobjectivethinker64 no, who else stood to gain from their deaths?

[@theobjectivethinker64]

@@itsmeagain7825 When I say third party, Jeremy may have had an accomplice.

[@kennethbowry1521]

Just follow the money who inherited the farm not not Bamber, how come he was outside the farm with the corrupt police when some else was in the house, and who put the silencer in the cupboard it was not a shotgun.

[@dawnjeanballard2874]

They live in the house now.

[@stevelindsay220]

It wasn't beyond slim bag cousins to do this they had a lot to Cain & inherit & were quick to bad mouth Jeremy ???

[@andybt3989]

Seriously? Go study the whole evidence!

[@evaflowervines9520]

The cousins always hated Bamber, with him out of the way they got everything. Don't forget the miraculous find of the silencer a month after the police search, with a minute amount of blood so small it could not be accurately determined whose it was. Not definitively Sheila's which the police concluded was a mix of Neville andJune ,not a scientific result.

[@andybt3989]

@@evaflowervines9520 if you’re suggesting they killed the family, you obviously haven’t studied the case! Why would Jeremy ring the police and claim it was his sister if they’d done it?

[@stevelindsay220]

@@evaflowervines9520 Where on the same page. I saw a documentary about that & they said the cousins stood to gain everything if Jeremy was out of the way. Incompetent police work.

[@stevelindsay220]

@@evaflowervines9520 I also don't believe Bamber's X girlfriend. A scorned woman from being dumped by Bamber & Manipulated by cops.