White Mage Changes - Dawntrail Media Tour FFXIV

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Rinon

Rinon

Күн бұрын

I was invited by Square Enix to check out FFXIV Dawntrail early, and here's how WHM is changing as well as what I think it means for the future of the job!
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0:00 Intro
1:13 New Skills
2:35 More Info & My Thoughts
4:29 Tooltips
#ffxiv #dawntrail #mediatour

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@itsOasus
@itsOasus Ай бұрын
>"WHM's First ever AoE Shield" Stoneskin II: "Am I a joke to you?"
@Crim_Brulee
@Crim_Brulee Ай бұрын
Stoneskin II: "Remember us... remember we once lived."
@JohnLattier
@JohnLattier Ай бұрын
in 1.0 you could toggle any spell to be aoe, granted that was technically conjurer not WHM
@itsOasus
@itsOasus Ай бұрын
@@JohnLattier Interesting! Did that make spells cost anything different?
@JohnLattier
@JohnLattier Ай бұрын
@@itsOasus same MP cost, potency, and enmity generation. They got rid of that feature pretty early on. But that's how you would do curaga. Stoneskin AOE was so OP. But, at the same time, there was no auto attack. You had to press 1 for every auto attack. Strange days.
@SorasShadow1
@SorasShadow1 Ай бұрын
welcome back stoneskin and aero iii and welcome "hurling yourself into the mobs with swiftcast holy!"
@ryanc5572
@ryanc5572 Ай бұрын
I'm so grateful for the rush honestly. Can't wait
@_phaun
@_phaun Ай бұрын
You are doing an incredible job at concisely covering ALL of these jobs. Your input is so inspiring for us!
@currentlemon
@currentlemon Ай бұрын
Really wished Presence of Mind got its cooldown reduced to 60 seconds.
@miraihibino1277
@miraihibino1277 Ай бұрын
As someone who plays mostly White Mage and Dancer I'm quite happy with the added dash akin to En Avant, if there is one thing that worries me a bit it's that Aetherial Shift and En Avant doesn't cover the same amount of distance. So, if you are on the Chaos data center and se a White Mage runing into walls or off platforms, its probably just me miscalculating a dash XD
@z0h33y
@z0h33y Ай бұрын
I kinda dont want WHM to get a dash. Its just more of the whole, "Homogenization"
@runicex2310
@runicex2310 Ай бұрын
The distance is probably one of those things that will change for release and was just that way for the media tour and testing purposes
@miraihibino1277
@miraihibino1277 Ай бұрын
@@runicex2310 hope so, will be the first thing I check when I log in after DTs release XD
@ronnymahendra9035
@ronnymahendra9035 7 күн бұрын
​@@z0h33y poor AST left in the dust lmao
@Malta1Vid
@Malta1Vid Ай бұрын
Party Wide shielding huh... where have we seen that on WHM before... and now has Regen effects. About time we saw Stoneskin 2 make some form of a return lol
@awesomeuno1
@awesomeuno1 Ай бұрын
These videos all have such a good layout, thank you so much!
@okay_sunshine
@okay_sunshine Ай бұрын
That dash being level 40 is amazing!
@andream5462
@andream5462 Ай бұрын
The changes sound fun! Thank you for sharing
@kumoko3728
@kumoko3728 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see white mages dash of the edge a la-dragoon
@Vioblight
@Vioblight Ай бұрын
Woah this is cool. I have healed the least in FF compared to other MMO’s. Might give it a try this xpac!
@TheCarash
@TheCarash Ай бұрын
They shoulda split the shield from temperance
@shiroikami2690
@shiroikami2690 Ай бұрын
I guess they still haven't decided to get rid of Freecure. But I'll take these upgrades. Now I just have to figure out the best way to weave Temperance into my Glare spam...
@dustycason6456
@dustycason6456 Ай бұрын
will we be able to change PoM to Glare IV to save hotbar space?
@dulthis
@dulthis Ай бұрын
Its already like that in the video
@scaper12123
@scaper12123 Ай бұрын
One time when I was tanking in MSQ Roulette I had a SGE who was pulling for me by dashing ahead with an ability i had no idea they had. Was pretty sure they were gonna die like 7 times during that run. WHMs having this scares me. xD
@k0blin
@k0blin Ай бұрын
Still, where is Glare II ? Awesome work on the vids !
@JemuzuDatsWho
@JemuzuDatsWho Ай бұрын
It is now Glare III!
@cosmicbrownie2312
@cosmicbrownie2312 Ай бұрын
Blm changes left me unenthused but whm got me back on the hype train
@Pikachu-qr4yb
@Pikachu-qr4yb Ай бұрын
I mained SGE in EW, really love the job, but might switch back to WHM for DT after watching this. Finally some more offensive opportunity.
@JoZero95
@JoZero95 Ай бұрын
Welcome back stoneskin II
@alexanderbeardsley5465
@alexanderbeardsley5465 Ай бұрын
however, we look at the movement skill. the whm version while having 50% more movement per cast, it has +50% the CD from En Avante. and to make it even more apparent, En Avante can keep up to 3 charges, the whm version only has 1. if we look at it from a purely mechanical perspective, the whm can do a 15 yalm dash once every 60 seconds. a dnc can perform 2 10 yalm dashes every 60 seconds. meaning the dnc version is still vastly superior since they get 25% more movement PLUS they have greater control over where they go since its multiple shorter dashes.
@PKcrash
@PKcrash Ай бұрын
Okay and?
@vavakxnonexus
@vavakxnonexus Ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm just sad we don't have anything visually interesting after Scholar going all in on the angel theming. It feels like there's a big visual identity clash.
@linr8260
@linr8260 Ай бұрын
Just to double check, is assize untouched? I couldn't spot it in the job trailer, but then again I am fairly blind.
@JemuzuDatsWho
@JemuzuDatsWho Ай бұрын
I am unsure if its potency has been touched but you can see him use the skill at 4:13 so it's still there!
@linr8260
@linr8260 Ай бұрын
​@@JemuzuDatsWhooh, you're right! Thank you, I see the floating text now. (In my defense, I actually am half blind)
@KalosKitsune
@KalosKitsune 29 күн бұрын
The long white hood on the white mage armor is concerning…
@kmeanxneth
@kmeanxneth Ай бұрын
fuck yeah whm's gap closer is lvl 40 :D
@Hamster7678
@Hamster7678 Ай бұрын
I'm so happy my main hasnt so much changed as just. levelled up.
@archon9513
@archon9513 Ай бұрын
Where is my aero3, yoshiP? Why is Sage holding my aero3?
@RinBanana
@RinBanana Ай бұрын
yoinkers!
@poidnet
@poidnet Ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of the new dash, I think it's going to be a source of error, unlike the dancer who has several stacks to adjust if necessary. I would have preferred a dash like the sage which can be used either on an enemy or a teammate. Or even better, being able to do ground targeting like the ninja.
@michaelbart7014
@michaelbart7014 Ай бұрын
If they dont massively buff healing requirements in casual and hardcore content, medica 3 will be just as useless as medica 2...
@currentlemon
@currentlemon Ай бұрын
Agreed. Doesn’t help that Tank Sustain didn’t get nerfed.
@michaelbart7014
@michaelbart7014 Ай бұрын
@@currentlemon I'm extremely cautiously optimistic that difficulty and frequency of mechanics and damage done are massively increasing in casual and hardcore content. I cant see any other justification for these changed otherwise. That being said as a WHM main I'm so excited about finally getting a party shield lol.
@penrilfake
@penrilfake Ай бұрын
@@michaelbart7014 We've said that every expansion and it never really happened. The only time healing reqs increased a lot were in Abyssos and most healer players stopped playing, to the point that both NA and JP had dozens of parties in PF simply waiting for two healers for hours on end. So, uh, yeah. It won't happen again. The players spoke with their time. Healing will remain as easy as it is now.
@azizaantoinette2388
@azizaantoinette2388 Ай бұрын
It feels like a bad joke that they decide for a medica 3...I never use medica 3 in lvl 76 and higher duties unless the duty start with ...heal doom off mechanics...or if things go so south that I have to resort to casting a heal
@wolfstar124
@wolfstar124 Ай бұрын
@@penrilfake Only reason we saw the river of green was because the fights required party mitigation, not just normal shielding and tankmit, and on top of that healers were constantly blamed for being unable to heal through all of the "you can't tank invuln these" tankbusters with dot that would tick for 40k+. It was far less of a healer issue and far more of a misplaced blame issue that healers didn't want to deal with.
@MackeKing
@MackeKing Ай бұрын
"Glare 4 is not a combo" was any heal ability ever a combo? :P
@SevenDeadlySinz
@SevenDeadlySinz Ай бұрын
Man... I really wanted to go back to AST... but WHM has me pretty dead set with those new abilities.
@vineveer4358
@vineveer4358 Ай бұрын
Another expansion, another panic choosing between WHM or SCH. It's a good problem to have.
@kubo6666
@kubo6666 Ай бұрын
Somehow? Bro makes some of the best guides in ffxiv and says somehow 😅
@MidoriGrey
@MidoriGrey Ай бұрын
the amount of griefing we're about to see from rescue and dash is gonna flooding the internet with clips.
@valvadis2360
@valvadis2360 Ай бұрын
With this dash we will finally feel like true wind mages
@RinBanana
@RinBanana Ай бұрын
ZOOM
@AndyMcKeeFanForLife
@AndyMcKeeFanForLife Ай бұрын
As someone who plays WHM pretty frequently: why are we placing a AOE mit + regen behind another AOE mit ability? How much damage is SE expecting our parties to take that we need double mits and a regen for? I'm so baffled by this choice. But I'm glad we finally get a gap closer now! Shame it doesn't sprout Temperance wings and we start zooming around on them.
@dootdootington386
@dootdootington386 Ай бұрын
Considering the aoe bleeds they've been draining health bars with lately, I'm expecting some real wild shit.
@AndyMcKeeFanForLife
@AndyMcKeeFanForLife Ай бұрын
@@dootdootington386 Meh. Even those could be easily mitigated with Thin Air + Medica 2 or AOE heal + Asylum.
@MissMoonRiverr
@MissMoonRiverr Ай бұрын
Supposedly the buff that gives you Divine Caress lasts for 30 seconds, so you won't have to stack it with Temperance if you don't feel it's necessary.
@nintenster
@nintenster Ай бұрын
No return of stoneskin :(
@seraphendipity
@seraphendipity Ай бұрын
they gave the healer with the most free movement a dash and even more instacasts...while leaving AST with jack all, and making their burst button an oGCD. lol. lmao even.
@RinBanana
@RinBanana Ай бұрын
WHM be zooming
@Kalatentia
@Kalatentia Ай бұрын
"Without needing to cast the **newly** upgraded medica III" Delete healers man why are we excited to NOT press our new buttons 😭They should find a way to make healing interactable or just deleted healers and give off globals to other jobs. I can't imagine a tank being excited to live tank busters without pressing their short mits cause they got their 120 buffed.
@xhephergaming
@xhephergaming Ай бұрын
They don't need to "delete" healers, it would just be better to update the incentives for healing. Current raid design doesn't want healers to GCD heal because the DPS checks are often too tight for ultimates, so you min/max your tools instead. There are plenty more buttons to press on other healers (white mage is just the simplest), and it can be fun to min/max tools on those jobs. Healing is fine as it is imo, but any updates to damage rotations would be welcome.
@Kalatentia
@Kalatentia Ай бұрын
@@xhephergaming Yeah deleting them is the short fire "fuck them" approach and obviously would never happen. You can say healing is fine I think that is fair BUT when everything else is just "better to play" no one then plays healer AND there is a requirement to have 2 of them (Another solution would be make it so content requires 1). Which ALSO leads to the point of why is there just not more tanks and healers anyways to match the 2melee 2tank 2 healer "meta" there should be equal proportions between them yet there are 2 more melees then those respective roles. (Be better if healers and tanks would catch up to 6 too).
@xhephergaming
@xhephergaming Ай бұрын
@@Kalatentia That would just never happen. It would make ultimate and savage prog as a healer too stressful. Especially with the devs wanting to remove ressurrection from casters. Dying on a healer already sucks, and it would just be compounded if there was only one in the party. The same goes for a tank. If they mess up, it's over. You need 2 tanks and 2 healers to give wiggle room for mistakes. If you're infallible and you truly believe this should be the meta, then go ahead and make your own static and just run content with that composition.
@Kalatentia
@Kalatentia Ай бұрын
@@xhephergaming Yeah I much rather them adding more tanks and healers, and I guess the stress is dependable. I personally stress over knowing my co healer can screw me over rather than me screwing my party over if that makes sense? Like if I mess up then I can be more so "mb" but I hate stressing the scenario where I need to call out a co healer? Like a tank doesn't NEED it's co tank to perform for their own busters. But yeah by no means is the game made rn to have 1 healer, as there are many things anyways like stacks that target healers only ect. SO very much prefer more variety with tanks eelers
@AdeptPaladin
@AdeptPaladin Ай бұрын
So.... Whm gained nothing of value in 80% of the content we'll do? Great. I don't even have temperance my bars it's useless for me.
@onioncultistlordoftheonion8315
@onioncultistlordoftheonion8315 Ай бұрын
Even if you don't need to use the healing buff. Its still a parry wide mitigation so you should still use it.
@Zoeila
@Zoeila Ай бұрын
not a fan of whm getting a shield for identity reasons
@wolfstar124
@wolfstar124 Ай бұрын
This isn't even the first time they've had it
@vayalond7203
@vayalond7203 Ай бұрын
Well I guess Aquaveil and Divine Benison weren't a thing so, of course the shield isn't the focus, far from it I mean, the single target is a 30second CD and the AOE a 2 minutes CD so the heals themselves are still the main part, just, that, for an incomming TankBuster it's cool to put a small supplementary shield before the actual heal
@itsOasus
@itsOasus Ай бұрын
@@wolfstar124 Stoneskin II sends its regards
@Infiniteimpossibilty
@Infiniteimpossibilty Ай бұрын
You're so right they've never had shields before. Except for Aqua Veil. And Divine Benison. And Stoneskin II.
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