WHITE TONER VS DTF PRINTING - LET'S TALK!

[@getitenterprise]

every so often we come across ppl like you.. Thank you!! Thinking about entering the world of printing ts through the use of DTF.

[@layleybug01]

DTF printing is the best results for us! Thanks for posting and sharing this information! Keepin' it 💯... 100%.

[@kadetheus]

I purchased the IC800 as well and had so much trouble with it that I had to return it. I READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, contacted technical support about what was in the manual, and they told me that I shouldn't have done what the manual told me. End of the day, my own research yielded better results than their tech support (which was still pretty bad). Love this video because it is real. I have tech support emails to back it up. Not for clothing.

[@mikechamberlain9558]

Man speaks truth. I gave up on white toner. Too inconsistent.

[@c10kid89]

I have a 550 white toner, I used it for a 2 plus years. Decided to try DTF. The quality is like night and day. My 550 is now sitting collect dust.

[@trenchkid3845]

Which dtf printer are u using

[@c10kid89]

@@trenchkid3845 I have a epson l1800

[@MrEarnxtracash]

+1 and I have an IC800… buying DTF machine #2 this week

[@RVincents]

I really appreciate your honesty...you are a natural teacher and speaker I am a corrective colorist.. I have fixed more false promises people have made to clients than I care to even count.. I learned the ins and outs and the science to get consistent results and how to use creative methods to make my work easier and to stand out. I totally relate and respect why said what you did. If people would just keep it real and stop disrespecting each other. We all have our favorite products and methods.. People need to strive to do what they do best and conquer that niche. I see people do BADASS work with stencils and markers. Talent is talent... Having the right equipment to achieve amazing results certainly makes our job easier... I have also seen people paint with qtips, their fingers and a butter knife and they floor me My point is.. Find what you do best and elevate it... If you make mistakes learn from it and respect each other especially the people who a generous and brave enough to make these videos. Really.. Appreciate what they are doing to help us all do better...

[@sando7375]

Marrying process I'd say is pretty much equal to sprinkling the adhesive powder on to the DTF transfer sheets and then hovering it over heat? Print speed on a wtp is definitely quicker. With rasterization applied to the design, it is alot more durable than DTF. Yes DTF is stretchy and feels softer but after a few washes, it does crack. Every surface printed image will crack after a few washes unless It's rasterized to allow water to pass through. Even plastisol screen print cracks. The only prints that won't crack over a long period is DTG and screen prints. I use WTP and rasterize every design, no issues at all.

[@MrPlomsone]

Excellent comparison

[@wendianderscox5086]

Good info. Thanks for putting this out there.

[@cregsmith8397]

I can't wait to see wait to see what you come up with using your DTF Printer. Mine is on it's way hopefully it will be here this week or next week and I also have to learn about the printer, software, and Maintenance before I start printing T shirts for Our Customers at Our small Printing Business. I really liked your presentation on the durability of the IC800 and the L1800 DTF Thanks !!!

[@BeccaPickles]

Best info yet. Answered all my questions. Thank you!

[@davidlarson4422]

I don’t have either machine..just considering them at this point…but seems the graphics are quite different on each shirt. The toner shirt has a wide solid area (and best practice method for that method says if it’s more than three fingers wide, either break it up or apply halftone (rasterizing). The dtf shirts all have graphics broken into smaller bits and pieces which goes a long way in preventing cracking or at least minimizing it. If you’re printing on a black T-shirt, why print the black? Use a color knockout to save toner and create some breaks in the picture

[@marcodeoliveira9933]

I have almost made up my mind to go with DTF over white toner but after seeing your video like the saying goes that was the last nail in the coffin

[@TrulyBlessed825]

I loved the intro!

[@jessehavok4181]

I just ordered a used laser printer off of ebay that I will be using a white toner cartridge with. I was really torn between which direction to go. I have been a photographer and a graphic designer for 15 years. I have never done DTF printing, but I have a lot of experience with both types of printers. They both have their draw backs that you will need to work around. Ultimately, I had to go with the efficiency, reliability, and overall versatility of the laser. I've had enough headaches dealing with clogs and waste of Epson printers to almost never want one ever again. It also only cost me about $1300 for my setup that will be able to do the same size prints as the L1800. I won't have to buy any more toner until until I've done at least 5000 pages....... I think I made the right choice.

[@elegant_edits]

Whoa. it seems like you have it figured out; in terms of what you feel will benefit you most. I assure you, that you will not get the page yield that you have projected because WT has so much waste, with the marrying process. When you have to marry the A and B sheets, you really aren't gaining much efficiency, in your workflow. If you are a professional designer and photographer, I'm sure color output means something to you. With WT printing, you will likely become very frustrated with the color output because it will not be accurately represented in your laser prints, in the way an inkjet would be able. There is maintenance with DTF, but I would much rather maintain my printers, and have the assurance of knowing that my customers/clients wouldn't complain about having to wash the shirts a specific way, only for them to last 10 washes. Please let me know how you like the WT process, as I'm hearing more negatives about it from T-shirt printers, vs the good; it would be refreshing, to hear some of the good feedback.

[@jessehavok4181]

@@elegant_edits I've actually decided to give both of them a shot. I found a modified L1800 for even cheaper than the laser. I've also come to find out that I can not really do full color prints easily with the laser printer as there is no software available to do so with modified setups like there is with inkjet systems. I'm really just testing the waters here. If things go well, I think I'll get a DTG UV hybrid system. I'm sure that's really the best way to go.

[@MrPlomsone]

To be fair Supacolor is a DST. Not DTF The bottom white layer is plastisol ink (screenprint) and cmyk is printed on a toner.

[@Marc-io6pv]

Interesting that this is even an argument. I had an OKi 711wt about 4 years ago and didn't even sell an item with that stuff on it. SO therefore it should be compared with an actual reliable transfer like eco-solvent I currently use but now looking at DTF for the extra it could possibly give.

[@Javinatorr]

Thanks for the info & bring informed bro, good looks, bout to go dtf myself

[@DynamicRemixes]

Great video, have done cut vinyl, solvent printing, now looking to get into dtf.

[@armandoperez3447]

thanks for sharing bro! i was saving to get a white toner. But i think ill just get the DTFFF better.

[@picturekid1]

Well said, I own a icolor 600 and I no longer use it for t-shirts! It's too much trial and errors, I'm using my solvent printer and vinyl until my industrial DTF printer and duster REACHES MY DOOR STEPS

[@tonelessbod]

Hahahahahaha trial and error and you wanna go to DTF. You’re in for a rude awakening. A crazy amount of trial and error that this guy doesnt say.

[@suzannehallas5449]

Yours is the first video that was worth the watch. It looks like I literally went the same path as you. I got my new DTF printer up and printing and putting out product in 2 days. And that was with issues installing Acrorip. LOL Plus the print, vibrancy and accuracy of color hands down beats out White Toner Printing. While I do know what I am doing with WT printing (after a year of costly supplies down the drain) I still am amazed at my DTF printer. I've literally have had it in use just 1 week and I'm ready to sell the the WT printer. Fortunately the WT printer has more use than for shirts, so I will be keeping it for now. I'm glad that there is someone else that feels the same as I do when it comes to these products. Keep on keeping on!

[@mounttikigames8797]

What DTF do you use?

[@ErnestNIcholsDJEMONSTA]

We learned from this video .. We will be watching more

[@MrPlomsone]

That Red on Rebels looks so opaque/bold! No comparison.

[@shunnaflowers3664]

Thanks for sharing this because I’m in the market for this type of printer🙂

[@MrEarnxtracash]

I just tried to help someone with a icolor 560 who needed to print A3 minimum…. She felt like white toner was a far more superior product than DTF meanwhile I own an iColor 800w and a DTf roll to roll and I have the same view as you do; I WILL NEVER MAKE A SHIRT WITH A WHITE TONER PRINTER AGAIN. It’s so real that I’m grabbing another roll to roll dtf… I say the the white toner printers keep printing and eventually they will find a DTF printer that will knock them off their socks!

[@edgargreen163]

Solid video, honest and informative. Thank you sir. I'm currently looking for the right place to purchase a Dtf printer from. Blessings

[@edgargreen163]

@@elegant_edits Thank you sir, blessings

[@caraannsmith5254]

Great video and input. I'm seconds away from making my purchase for the l1800. Scared shitless (sorry) is an understatement. I don't do mass volume printing but would REALLY like to implement this into my production line to increase the ability to kick out my customs. Any suggestions for a newbie who is ready to take the dive and kick ass???

[@montanatempel9788]

I’m there with you! I know it’s been a year now so if you could give someone in your place what would you say since you bought your l1800

[@marcodeoliveira9933]

Thanks for keeping it real

[@leviteapparel]

Hi just sub. Also just got acrorip 9.03 setup, powder, pet film, and waiting for printer. DTF ready !!

[@leviteapparel]

@@elegant_edits Nice Boston Levite in the House Shalom MHNCB

[@tashfrost9505]

I was waiting on a roland bn20 but after seeing results of dtf i am reconsidering🤔

[@tashfrost9505]

@@elegant_edits here in NZ bn20 is 11k as is no training or ink🤦‍♂️ im thinking dtf maybe a less expensive way to try i have tried white toner its to expensive here

[@tashfrost9505]

@@elegant_edits yes i know so expensive i will more than likely go the dtf route. How has the maintenance been for you? i will subscribe to see your progress with this while i search for dtf stuff

[@tashfrost9505]

@@elegant_edits wow not to bad then will wait for a vid of how you maintain yours 11k is a big investment bit i dont see bn20 good for tshirts only ? Dtf looks like would do good detailed images and no weeding🤦‍♂️

[@avosdado]

What I don’t like with dtf is that the printer have many issues, red lights blinking,many of them clogged or printhead fail. And we know how much a printhead cost. Also the shop temperature and supply ( powder and ink can be a issue for the printer). If you spend 10K for a chinese printer you’ll never know what you gonna get and the powder and fumes that comes from cooking the sheet you don’t know how harmful they are. White toner is versatile same as dtf but you don’t need maintenance, or replace printhead or replace printer.. it might crack more or less like dtf but it depends on working on setting and the garment that you use. In your video the white toner are printed on heavy cotton tshirt and the dtf on probably 100% poly and didn’t crack. It’s the garment that makes the difference beside your printing settings. Btw when printhead will cost 50$ I might go back doing dtf

[@belizegirlmajic9906]

Should have knocked out blk for White toner to get softer feel

[@jackyalcatras]

Cool Bro

[@rosskennedy1960]

Thanks for posting this video. Absolutely amazing. I was considering an IC 550 and did talk to people who liked it and others who don't. Bottom line is you are very objective in this video. Much appreciated, thank you Ps. What printer are you using for your DTF printer? I am looking at an epson surecolor scp800

[@rosskennedy1960]

Thanks for the quick reply, i am currently doing 30 - 50 prints a day so yes print time os a big factor. I will look into the new printer 7989 you are getting. Just starting to watch your vid on this printer. Thanks again Ross Kennedy

[@sturachtudor4289]

I had a OKI white toner printer, wish I hadn’t bothered, probably good like you say for hard surfaces, birthday and Christmas cards great I suppose but no good for T-shirts etc. I agree with you!

[@aphil527]

Everything u said was facts. I just sold my icolor 600 yesterday. Being careful on washing and rasterization of images and inconsistent mirroring A sheet and B sheet is not it.

[@aphil527]

@@elegant_edits no problem

[@inklabdesigns]

@@elegant_edits What really sucks is I honestly found no videos like this one talking about the negatives of white toner. Almost every video was positives and because of that, I fell for it.

[@shawnclark8638]

Thanks for being real

[@thecomiccircuit]

I am waiting for my dtf to arrive...I own an oki wtp...so I'd like try my hand at this process...i have been making shirts for about 1 year...speed is the same between the and WTP in my opinion...your marry process takes away the advantage of speed when it comes to the faster print and lower maintenance...

[@KiDD275]

i just got mine and did 5 prints man the quality is crazy

[@nucreative4556]

which printer did you get?

[@KiDD275]

@@nucreative4556 Epson r1390

[@t-shirtcrusaders2547]

I tried white toner transfers and they are trash! I have a DTF printer and I love it. I have an Epson L1800 and I think it is slow compared to the other models, but after a while you learn to have patience with it lol. I can't complain about the quality or the feel. Supacolor is a Digital Screen print Transfer not a DTF transfer according to what Supacolor says in their own videos.

[@naturalhealthrevolution1518]

Most arent going to give up the game but the real secret with White toner printers is in the actual transfer you use. Most haven't figured that out. Using the right transfer paper you can run against DTG and DTF...Yes I said it and dont expect you to believe me. Most only use the lower quality ones. Folks keep the secrets to themselves and let others bash WTP and they are forced to spend more going DTG or DTF. Plus there are other little tips and tricks with WT. Again...folks ain't telling the game

[@t-shirtcrusaders2547]

@@naturalhealthrevolution1518 I have tried the premium paper and laminated it. But the quality still isn’t there for me. Also, if you buy the premium paper it costs like $800 for 100 sheets!!!! That’s $8 per transfer you make. I think that’s way too expensive. I wish WTP were better because I really like the low maintenance aspect, high speed, and picture quality. Until, they prove they are comparable in actual print quality like screen prints then I will go in all the way.

[@naturalhealthrevolution1518]

@@t-shirtcrusaders2547 nah homie. Much more to it than that. Most dont know about what I'm talking about. With a WT printer you can make certain moves that will allow to you match DTG and DTF. I already knew how you were going to respond before you responded. When the correct moves are made you can watch a T shirt with fabric softener and put in the dryer on HIGH heat and so that MANY times with no issues. Low heat is one thing but high is typically the killer. Nobody should be drying in high anyways though.

[@t-shirtcrusaders2547]

@@naturalhealthrevolution1518 I mean you make it seem like you know the secret. I mean what is it?? The only thing I know that can match DTG and DTF is using the white toner printer to make Digital Screen transfers which is ideally better than dtg and dtf. I mean Supacolor uses that process and those transfers are awesome. If, you figure out what that secret is with white toner please share it because that would be a game changer

[@fitogch]

I've never heard of any story of success regarding white toner and I include myself. I bought an OKI PRO 920WT and I got tired of trying to marry A and B sheets. Now the printer is garbage. The learning process is very expensive and it won't seem to ne learned. Dtf is the way to go.

[@DynamicGenesis]

Bro you saved my life!

[@elegant_edits]

Glad I could help, in some way. I appreciate the support! Thanks for watching

[@theguythatdoesthatonething2133]

I have an Icolor 550. I have since moved to an Epson L1800 and the 550 hasn’t been turned on since.

[@danique1254]

@@elegant_edits have you uploaded it?

[@sleeplessbeauty5602]

Thank You so much! Can DTF OFFER A HARD SURFACE TRANSFERS TOO?

[@AlohaBob]

A few questions. I thought printing on a shirt was direct to garment, why is this direct to film and where is the film? Are you limited to printing on front or back, can you do sleeves? If I need 11x17 or 13x19, what would a good first printer be? What is the powder or dust and is that with this sort of printer?

[@Atomic425]

I have a L1800 but my next printer will be a Epson p600 for speed.

[@tanyas2670]

I have a uninet 550 and I never have problems with the marrying process. I use a fusion iq and it’s been great. I did a lot of research on how to get longevity from the transfers. I would be interested in seeing the wash test though. What’s the difference cost per print?

[@deanthonybyrd6000]

Is there any way i can reach out to you for help? I also have ic 550 but haven’t touched it in 2 years because of rasterization process. I will highly appreciate.

[@candacegrunlose5910]

What DTF printer would you recommend ?

[@elegant_edits]

It would depend on your budget, how often you plan on printing, available space in your shop, for a setup etc. I have officially launched my DTF printer sales business. I currently have a nice bundle for sale. My website is www.popdtf.com/ Just click on "get started"

[@tucsonairbrush3233]

Good info. I appreciate the comparisons. DTF transfers look really good. However, aren't DTF printers a pain to maintain and trouble-shoot? Time=Money, no? Especially with white (titanium) ink? Clogging issues, wasted ink during nozzle check cleanings, etc? Others who own DTF's have said be prepared to do a lot of hand-holding daily with these...how is Supacolor in terms of real profitability? Does Supacolor (like Transfer Express) get the lion's share of the profits (off of our labor)? If so, who is really working for whom? Appreciate your honesty!

[@tucsonairbrush3233]

@@elegant_edits Thank you!

[@rashedsaeed5110]

Hello Elegant Edits How are you Can I see gold and silver color printing in a DTF printer? Do you advise me to buy a DTF printer which is the brand and type

[@pritpaul5997]

It is Usefull video sir

[@pritpaul5997]

Humble request to Describe in more detail. thanks

[@pritpaul5997]

@@elegant_edits sir in terms of DTF 😊😊😊

[@pritpaul5997]

Does the white coloured head blocked in DTF printers ? After not using nearly 5days? And what is the solution if it happen

[@mounttikigames8797]

Any information about the toxicity of the powder? I have parrots and they have very sensitive respiratory systems.

[@MRWILL-fv2cw]

Dude you are dead right about the white toner printer. It absolutely sucks for garments. Way to much trail and error and inconsistency with the white toner. I have been waiting for a option other than DTG and it seems like DTF may be the right one. I run a screen printing shop and I strive for quality. Did you buy the DTF printer or did you convert Your Epson? Where did you buy if so?

[@MRWILL-fv2cw]

@@elegant_edits Thanks for your reply.

[@srdani33]

First off, thanks for the information. Just starting out. I have a fusion heat press, mug press, sublimation printer, and vinyl cutter. I'm very interested in dtf as a means to not send out certain full colors out to a pod or only work with a high polyester fabric. What wisdom do you have for me?

[@elegant_edits]

Depending on your volume of orders, your environment for printing and the available space you have in your shop; you will able to make quality prints with DTF that you will be proud to stand behind. Thanks for the support!

[@hazelann63]

Have you used the forever no weed no cut products

[@srikanth187]

Can connect Epson Stylus Pro WT7900 To dtf

[@JessBenS]

Facts bro!!! I sold my 8432 digital heat fx printer after I got my 24” DTF printer color and durability #Tardesign

[@nucreative4556]

which 24" printer did you get?

[@cregsmith8397]

Well I just seen this was a year ago my bad so, did everything work out with what you were trying to come up with ?

[@elegant_edits]

We are almost there, but I haven't taken the time to get back to testing the process. Thanks for the reminder! I have a lot on my plate, but I know this will rock the DTF community, once I release it. Thanks for being patient

[@JL-wr4hd]

I'm debating between the white toner and DTF. So, the dtf is better for clothing I am gathering. I know which white toner printer I would get but which dtf printer would you recommend?

[@elegant_edits]

This would depend on several different factors, because I wouldn't want you to purchase a printer that wouldn't best suit your demand. You must answer several questions: Do you currently have consistent orders? If so, how many transfers will you need to print per day? Do you want to only print for your customers' orders or do you also want to sell the transfers to other businesses? How many days of the week will you be printing? Will you be printing in a shop, with good ventilation or from your home? How big of a footprint can you manage, for a printing system? All of these things should be assessed, first.

[@douglasfuentes2737]

How long to print a sheet with your dtf printer?

[@6mac1]

can a canon pixma ix6820 be used for dtf?

[@urjnlegend]

Get that money

[@dgcustomtshirtsphotogifts3738]

I like your work , I do sublimation, laser transfer and Vinyl, i subscribe to your channel

[@elegant_edits]

I just subbed to you; maybe we can do a collab, someday!

[@pritpaul5997]

👍

[@sword123n]

Hi! I had a different kind of question for you. Hope you'll answer me😅 I'm considering buying an oki 9431 ( cmyk) this printer doesn't come with white toner hence the clarity & the outputs aren't as vibrant on clear or dark media , but gets the Job done on a mass scale for most works I was thinking if its a good idea to get a modded L1800 with white toner and use that for darker media prints that may need white toner as a base & then print the cmyk colors with my oki Do you think this is could work ?🤔 The price difference for a oki cmyk & oki cmyk+(w) is about 9000$ where is stay !

[@sword123n]

@@elegant_edits Hi first of all thank you for taking out your time in answering this question for me & Yes I intend on using the oki 9431 (cmyk) for digital printing purposes on a scale that focuses on short run orders that helps small businesses for various kind of items & yes its mostly for print sizes upto 12x18" What you're saying makes sense to get the job done as smooth as possible with less effort and Increase workflow My budget for the business is around 10000$ where I stay at and it covers all necessary starting up costs for a cmyk (oki ) & other stuff , but say I wanted a cmyk+w oki my costs shoot up by 9000$ which I can't afford right now So hence I was guessing whether it'd be a good idea to use modded L1800 white toner as a white base for prints with my cmyk system that's all . It would cost me around 800$ which I can push for I'll have to check out ghost toners as u directed me I know very less about them Thanks again for your insights on to this 😊

[@sword123n]

@@elegant_edits Yes This information certainly helps . Thanks once again on your insights & for your assuring words !😇

[@Kdjoao]

I just bought a white toner.

[@Kdjoao]

@@elegant_edits i might have to get a dtf also

[@Kdjoao]

@@elegant_edits not sure what to do with my white toner as i cant return it. Guess i can keep it if i want to do shiny foil print

[@brendafogerty1685]

What do you recommend for a home based business that doesn't have a large shirt business yet as far as dtf printer? I keep reading that the maintenance is a nightmare, clogged lines etc.

[@elegant_edits]

Hi, and thanks for watching my videos. It would depend on your business model. You would have to answer several questions: How often will you be printing. Would you like to print transfers for other businesses or only for your shop? Depending on your business model, it might be better to order transfers from a reputable DTF vendor, until you have the need to upgrade. If you would like to be able to print smaller orders on demand, I would suggest something such as a p800 or L1800(slower printer, but reliable). For higher production, but not commercial, I would recommend the p5000. I am actually selling the p5000 DTF printers, right now. I have recently decided to offer quality consumables, because your inks, powder and film are also very important. DTF requires maintenance, but you shouldn't experience clogging, if the inks are good, and you are doing routine maintenance.

[@brendafogerty1685]

@@elegant_edits I basically just want it for myself and not to do prints for others. I need custom artwork so feel like this would be the route to go. I probably wouldn't be printing every day. Maybe a few times a week.

[@elegant_edits]

I think an L1800 would be a good option for you. It's not a very fast printer, but as long as you have good inks and do the maintenance, it would be a good printer. What is your budget?

[@brendafogerty1685]

@@elegant_edits I know I want to do bigger prints not just 8.5 x 11 or 8.5x14. Can the L1800 do that? Honestly my budget depends on what all comes with it. What vendor do you recommend? I need someone who offers support and warranty on equipment.

[@elegant_edits]

The L1800 can handle up to A3+ (13" x 19") sheets. The printer is slow but produces great prints. Not many companies offer great customer support or a warranty, due to the nature of the maintenance that is required for DTF. There is no way to prove whether or not the customer may have caused clogging, due to not performing the maintenance or using different inks.

[@christinezvosec1217]

I was considering getting into DTF, what is a good starter printer?

[@kabirsoni3172]

If bugdet is low L805 epson for a4 size L1800 epson for a3 size

[@MarcAndreMenard]

I like that you try to destroy the shirt... i will do the same.. you have to be super bad to stuff to put your name behind it and sell it after... your the KING men ! i was about 1 week to but icolor 560, and the cost of toner stress me a lot, that mean it will cost ME 3-5 $ per print... now i learn that DTF can cost me less than 1$... i am pretty sure this is the way to go !

[@mr.chapman1321]

when I print on DTF does the back have to have white ink in the back of the print?

[@mr.chapman1321]

I’m not sure what’s going on with my DTF machine. I did the reverse flash I also clean the print head and I’m not getting any white ink on the printer. Something is clogged in the system and I’m not sure what it is. I just purchased my printer and I only got like three or four of the prince out of it so far they’re printed the white base in the back.

[@mr.chapman1321]

Ok thank you I appreciate it a lot I will send you pictures in the AM.

[@pydes127]

Can you suggest which one is better White toner or DTF?

[@pydes127]

@@elegant_edits Thank you so much man 🙏🙏🙏 Then DTF it is..

[@pydes127]

@@elegant_edits Thank you

[@aaronbryant89]

Wish I seen this video 3 months ago before spending almost 10k on a white toner and spending hours and hours every week with tech support.. for them to tell me it's all my fault but can't tell me why 🤦‍♂️ ... white toner is trash

[@jus10tanicala8]

ive been doing 30 dollar shirts with dtf since janurary lol

[@soundstructuremedia]

Bout to sub to ur channel

[@djbigant610]

Dtf is the way to go I have a total of 5 printers running all day long and once you master your settings you can literally make them feel like screen printing.

[@stealthgod801]

What dtf printer would you recommend to someone who is new to dtf?

[@djbigant610]

@@stealthgod801 honestly none of these DIY ones the maintenance will be alot and there not built to handle the white ink or dtf ink period. Dtf ink is the same ink as a dtg only difference is the cmyk is thinned out. You need to find yourself a actual dtf supply (and not one who does the diy) because they will modify the print head along with everything else to run dtf with no problem. Print head will actually last longer.

[@stealthgod801]

@@djbigant610 thank you!

[@cameronempey8350]

50 people with one shitty printer was the biggest joke I’ve ever heard even huge shops don’t even have 50 people troll town right there

[@soundstructuremedia]

Man U making wanna sell my IC550

[@belizegirlmajic9906]

You need more practice on white toner for a softer feel ....even if you have been printing for 10 years. You just have to learn process and be willing to master it.

[@lukecyphers7831]

Tell me how to make it last.

[@belizegirlmajic9906]

Yeah you said you have been printing for 10 years but not white toner. All of the methods have time involved. If you wanna learn new steps for new methods it will take time to become a master of any

[@Blackgold410]

Don’t buy a White toner

[@designhub360customapparel]

Why?

[@ciocoflender007]

You are not smart enough to make a proper comparison. You have to make the same print with both systems and test both of them identically, not stretching like crazy differently.

[@elegant_edits]

I'm sure that I am much smarter than you, for certain...Especially, if your retention skills aren't good enough to see the stark contrast between both printing methods, without comparing the same image. When I did the stretch test, it was for testing the durability of the printing process, itself. The same amount of ink vs toner is being laid down--it doesn't matter which image is being printed. Go to any Facebook group or printing forum and look at the litany of people who are selling their white toner printers for DTF units. Try again...but hopefully, you'll try to pick another channel to troll. This will be my only comment to you, as I'm sure---we'd both be wasting our time.

[@rpbvid]

@@elegant_edits Very good response... sufficient for a troll. I have a white toner printer that I have never opened. I don't trust selling products from it. And You had Me rollin' with Your line, "I'm being fair, I am being fair" HaHaHa!!!