Whitehall Mystery | Board Game Masterpieces

[@mattsugrim7132]

I kind of want to see this on the next Board Game Club...

[@maxgustafsson7802]

Absolutely! Maybe even different versions, one where you see what jack does and one where it's just the bobby's POV

[@Veggieman87]

Oh, man, there would be so many great combinations for that. If Tom were the killer, he'd just sit back silently and let the cops talk themselves into a tizzy. If Rosie were the killer, she'd probably just wade headlong into them and somehow still psych them out because who would actually do that. And if Sully were the killer, he'd probably say "Right, so if I use this boat token now, where can I go?"

[@mattsugrim7132]

@@Veggieman87 Rosie is neutral chaos and therefore the most suitable choice for Jack.

[@darrenmaley5436]

I would like to see Sgt. Sullivan on his beat.

[@JamesBurtonAngrybrainartworks]

God yes Adam please

[@BEEEbobPOOP]

"Are you cooking? Youre cooking arent you?" Hit me quite hard

[@BlueTorchWeddings]

Hahahahaha 😅😂 me too

[@Nogardo]

Ow dodge a bullet there. Just this time I was just chillaxing but when I cook, NRB is playing in the background.

[@Krisspear]

that bit was fabilous. i had to put down what i was doing and like the video lol

[@TheKurdSimRacer]

So i couldn't find a commercial copy of the game in my country ,but your video made me to build it for my self and it's beautiful

[@markthacker9975]

I remember when I was young we used to play Scotland Yard loads, like it was my dads favourite game. The box is completely knackered now we’ve played it that much. Really tempted to buy this as I love playing board games with my dad but I’ve found it’s something he likes to do less and less as I’ve grown older and started to beat him at shit like battleships. I think he’d love the challenge of this. Great vid Adam, loving this channel so much

[@alecfiggins9251]

What a great metaphor to start the episode with!

[@kev_whatev]

Amazing intro! Adam’s nervous glances at the balloon were perfect

[@lilz3337]

I didn't need more reasons to buy this game but here they are. I can't wait until I can actually get a group together to play all the games I want to play/buy.

[@Yzo_24]

I was introduced to this by a friend, and Adams 100% right…. I bought it! Such an amazing masterpiece!

[@Whitebeardcrewmate]

The first masterpiece video for a game I've already played! Got this one for myself as a birthday present last February based off of your personal top 10 video and your glowing recommendation from that. Probably the most played game in my collection right next to Pandemic

[@JoshuaRastia]

This video convinced me to get a copy, and me & my game friends absolutely love it! I don’t think we’ve had this many tense moments and near miss laughs in a long time. Cant recommend enough! You guys make amazing videos and we love your channel! :D

[@BEEEbobPOOP]

Where did you manage to get it? If you're in the UK that's nothing short of a miracle

[@JoshuaRastia]

@@BEEEbobPOOP Aw, that sucks :/ we’re in the United States sadly, we were able to just find one at our local game store..if you’re willing to pay the import fees you could probably get a copy off Amazon USA or EBay

[@Joel-bh5xd]

I recently played my first Whitehall Mystery game (bought it after watching a few videos about it here) and I'm happy to report... it was INCREDIBLE. Thanks so much Adam and team for this recommendation!

[@sorceressferaly4026]

I love Whitehall Mystery. It's such a tense game of cooperative deduction as the police, or bluff and escape as Jack. Since introducing it to my family it's become a favorite during game night, even if Jack has yet to win a game, everyone still wants to play as Jack, determined to make a trickier plan than the last player! And that is something I love with the design, at the beginning of the game, the police seem absolutely clueless and their situation hopeless, but as soon as they just find one clue, the net starts closing and Jack who seemed like a ghost, is suddenly just a mortal after all. A mortal who has to escape in a stagecoach just to make it to the next round. Marvellous game and simple enough to play with the family! (If they don't mind the murder theme, of course.) Happy you featured it here!

[@adamcooke3929]

Best video intro EVER!! 😂 Way to take one for the team Adam. 👍

[@clintj]

That intro was a thing of genius.

[@Jericho5255]

Finally got this game on order! Can't wait to play it! Had to rewatch just to remind myself how awesome this game is.

[@ericgropuis]

Need some more videos like this, I did buy the game after watching board game club and love this detailed video on how the play the game. I know I can’t wait to play it with my group

[@renegadebrigade8177]

I saw the first one from you guys and liked the idea of hidden movement games so I looked for one with a theme I love. I found Last Friday, it's a hidden movement game thats Friday the 13th without the license. It's actually slightly different cause it switchs between who's chasing and running. Definitely an awesome buy and glad you guys pointed me in that direction.

[@scotthamilton9515]

Support No Rolls Barred! Give 'em a subscribe and Get on Board! I could honestly listen to Adam talking about Board Games all day!

[@SkullSnax]

Now that you guys are in person, can we get Sully, John and Tom as the police vs Adam as Jack?

[@lyndongreer6426]

I bought a cheap version of Scotland Yard off of the NZ version of eBay (Trade me). Even in SY the tension absolutely skyrockets when Mr X has to reveal himself, especially if the other players are close by. Whitehall Mystery looks amazing too.

[@codyeveryday5432]

No joke I was looking up a how to play cuz I needed a refresher, and my fav channel pulls this out. Good day

[@adanomic949]

I was already planning to buy this after your top 10 list, but now I want to run out and grab this thing today. Looks so fun.

[@GABRISANDMAN]

Great video, very intelligent and exciting analysis of the game. Thank you so much 🙏🏻❤️🔪🎩

[@derekwilliams1169]

I love letter from whitechapel but it is very time consuming so this would be great. I just looked at all the local game stops around me and Whitehall is sold out everywhere and on Amazon (in Canada) they are asking over $120.00. That is insane!!!

[@joematty1353]

I've been waiting 2 years for this game to go on sale. Today i saw it on sale and I bought it. Is this game more fun with more players? And is it fun with 2 players also? Thanks for the video!

[@SmilingMatthew]

This is the game I always get beginners to play, and it never fails, it's just too good and exciting and it occupies #4 in my top 10 boardgames ever

[@SoulTarot90]

It can be played many times, or it is a white time game as “escape rooms”... i am a begginer and want to start playing something with my boyfriend

[@SmilingMatthew]

@@SoulTarot90 you can play it as many times as you want. Basically is like playing hide n seek or something similar. One player runs around while doing delinquency and the others chase him. No story, no narrative arc, just a tense, concentrated, focused and amazing game. 11/10 you should buy it

[@triomegazero]

I was finally the first one to win as Jack in our gaming group. Admittedly, it was against two new players and one who had watched our previous rounds, so I don't treat it as a definitive victory. But I look forward to getting one over our more seasoned coppers!

[@john_molden]

I remember being introduced to scotland yard by my brother who bought it when he was in England in the nineties and it was such a fun game, i think i am gonna need to try this one

[@andrewmartinez4224]

Dude yes. Ive been wanting this game for a while now

[@theTimeLord97]

This looks like an amazing game. I would love to see this on Board Game Club.

[@marvinko6610]

Nooooooo. I'm not even 10 seconds in and my wallet is already starting to cry in the shower

[@mrchom]

At least (when it's in stock) it's around about the £35 mark, so....not cheap, but a lot cheaper than a questionable Kickstarter with 3 million minis :)

[@e7venjedi]

In the shower XD bahaha I love it

[@bigjohnsworld]

This needs to be a board game club episode!

[@rudisteenbakkers]

Thanks for the review! I just played this game for the first time, but as I understand it, the inspectors first all move and then all take an action. They don't go move + action, move + action, move + action as shown in the video.

[@SkullSnax]

“Are you cooking?” I feel attacked

[@kylesmorgabord5592]

Great video! But rules correction @10:50… You are not allowed to search for clues until all investigators have moved.

[@NoRollsBarred]

ADAM: This is true! Playing one of my favourite games wrong again. Takes a little bit of pressure off the Jack player... but not much...

[@kylesmorgabord5592]

@@NoRollsBarred I played the same way at first, for us it definitely balanced it more after the correction!

[@RCbeastly]

There was another rule that it seems you are breaking - Jack cant shout "I've done it!" as he moves to the final circle - he must wait until the Investigators have moved and investigated. Also, when he makes a special move, he places the move card next to the board aligned with the movement track, so the Investigators can see at which turn the special move was made. This isn't meant to criticise - I didn't know about this game until I watched this video.

[@rockassassin64]

I've played Scotland Yard and I like that game a lot. I think the hidden movement mechanics are very fun. I do agree. It's a very fun style of board game and I wish. I could find more and play more games like that

[@XCM666]

I think it's a great game, but to provide a different viewpoint I wanna say this: Most turns players move 3 policemen and check for clues with all of them (because why not). On average, I would say this means checking 4 fields per policeman, so there is a lot of: 56? Nope! 62? No. 63? No. 65? No sir (queue next policemen). This can get tedious and boring quickly, especially in a 2 player game.

[@froopaloopz6658]

Can confirm, Adam showed us once and we bought it 😅 loving all the vids from down under xD

[@Sc0rp10711]

How do I get to play this with you Adam? I want a gripping tense game to play with wife and friends, now that Lockdown restrictions have eased, and hearing how highly you speak of this makes me want to play it immediately. Retailers available of the game are out of stock currently though... Sad times indeed

[@wanplaypause]

Wanted it before. Want it now. Planning to get this at month end as a lil birthday present for myself

[@DreamReaver]

I searched for more than a year for a SH copy of Fury of Dracula (3rd ed.) while it was out of print and I only played it once. I loved every bit of it and I want it to be my favorite game, but I cant find people willing to play it because there are so many rules and it takes soooo long to explain it. It's absolutely gorgeous and thematic, but too complex for the non gamers i can usually convince to play with. It's also daunting to play with just 2 players, with all the individual powers and phases and... screw you, FFG. Whitehall Mystery, as you presented it, seems like the easier and quicker alternative and I want to give it a go. But it's not in stock anywhere near me 🙁

[@otherbarry19]

Yeah, I love the idea of FOD but it is such a big commitment. We played for about two hours before we realized (as Dracula) I had missed the line at the bottom of Spain so I had kind of cheated. It went on for another hour by which time most people had got too fatigued (or too drunk) to care. Rather than heading to Castle Dracula to get healed I purposely got caught just so we could do something else. Another game we played Dracula tried an ambitious play and got caught in about 45 minutes - so you're not even sure if you need to bring a packed lunch with you. I will probably get FOD on Steam and play that way - this looks really good as it just moves faster, maybe even faster and easy than Scotland Yard.

[@SenorTallon]

That is probably the greatest use of a physical prop to enhance a narrative I have... Ever seen?

[@RobertSmith-tn2pu]

This sounds so incredible I just ordered it

[@mrchom]

I played one game of Letters from Whitechapel as Jack during which I deliberately crossed over my path, went into tiny winding bits of city, and left one of my friends almost screaming when he searched and found clues in every single direction. Eventually the police worked out what street I had to get and surrounded it....only for one of them to get nervous, break the cordon to search, and gift me the win. They vowed never to play Poker with me as I declared I'd won....not realising I was basically drowning in sweat, and a complete bag of nerves. Whitehall Mystery does look like a nicer tighter version of that and I recommend it to anyone with nerves of steel, and a devilish smirk.

[@Rustie_za]

Everybody talks down on Letters From Whitechapel using words like "clunky" "longer" "setting up resets" etc, but if you are into strategic thinking where decisions you made earlier impact later phases, Letters is more refined and have more nuance for that type of strategy. I prefer that over the quick cycle fast setup play styles.

[@mizzfit02]

I've been on the hunt for 'Fury of Dracula', 'Letters from Whitechapel' and 'Whitechapel Mystery'. Sold out all the places I've tried. Have they gone out of print?!

[@DarinMcGrew]

One of the first games I played with hidden movement was Stellar Conquest. Technically, your movement wasn't hidden because your pieces were on the board, but flipped over. But the task force pieces could represent any number of ships (including zero), so at least with the people I played with, it was common to send out a bunch of empty task forces to obscure the movement of your actual ships. (The first half of each game plays like multiplayer solitaire though, so I don't recommend it unless you like that kind of game.)

[@jamesking3488]

I love this game. So simple and so fun. I just wish I didn't have to be Jack all the time. My gaming group finds being Jack too stressful, so if I want to play I need to toss the lumpy sack of body bits over my shoulder and take one for the team.

[@brianhedley5139]

The Fury of Dracula is also a good hidden movement game that you would like and would make a good BGC especially with Sullivan as Dracula

[@LogicUnpublishable]

i loved playing scotland yard as a kid, but felt like it dragged on too long. This seems like a more compact version of it and I like the vibe.

[@QT5656]

Thanks for the overview. Scotland Yard isn't my favourite game bit I do enjoy the first act of JAWS. Whitehall Mystery sounds well worth trying.

[@willowpalecek7050]

If you like hidden movement and also ninja, try the obviously named Ninja: Legend of the Scorpion Clan.

[@liammkirby]

Love this game, and now, thanks to this video,I don't have to feel like I'm missing out on anything by not playing Letters From Whitechapel.

[@danemcnally493]

Best intro by far

[@seandunne9048]

This board game sounds fantastic 😀

[@angelusthornful]

At the Origins Gaming convention I played a hidden movement game called Nuns on the Run. You play as novices hiding from the nuns while exploring the abbey.

[@Bllurr1]

My first hidden movement game was Clue(do): The Great Museum Caper. A much smaller movement area, so highly tense.

[@brennag7962]

My brother and I played the heck out of that game as kids! Loved it.

[@zmollon]

Nothing can beat the tension of shot based Candy Land.

[@TainakaRicchan]

Not as tightly deseigned as Whitehall Mystery, but I REALLY like Nuns on the Run, not at least due to it's silly Theme. My favourite Hidden Movement Game. It is basically The same idea, but reversed: one (or two) players control the Abbot and the Prioress, and upto 6 player control the Novices, who are sneaking around the Monestary trying to steal cake, or brandy, or something. The Guards patrol are patrolling on a fixed path, wich their player chooses, either walkjing and listing, or running, but making ot much noise to hear the novices, only able to deviate from their path when they see or hear one of their mischevious charges. the Novices can also decide how fast they move, and the faster they move, the more noise they make, possibly alerting the Nuns, who might try to chase or corner them. And sicne the game works with sight lines, one knocked over vase might lead to the discovery of quite a few novices, that hid inside the chapel, despite them being silent, and a subsequent benny hil chase thene through the whole monestary.

[@nihkhdtigerson1599]

I know I'm catching up with your stuff since coming across the channel a few months ago though surely a better play on colours for the blue police person would have been bluesome clues or cruise. x:x

[@LostieMJ]

I just bought Letters Whitechapel and now I saw this video jajajaaj I hope Whitechapel will be incredibly fun anyways, it's going to be the first hidden movement game for my group of friends. I don't mind setting the board every round, it may slow the game down but add some strategy to it. The only thing that I really would have loved to have in WhiteChapel is the abilities for the police. They are all different in color and their portraits, but gameplay wise they are all the same, and I think that makes more interesting to play with jack rather than with the police.

[@jeffersonrodriguez8081]

Who the hell would dislike an NRB video

[@izlibug3628]

Looks like an awesome game. I was very invested but I was also indeed cooking 😂

[@johnloony68]

0:58 the balloon bursting was as if you’re a bomb disposal expert who knows that there is a 50/50 chance of the bomb exploding (or not), but you’re expecting it to be a normal bomb but then it blows up and you discover it’s actually a nuclear bomb. Obliterating a city, not just a building. It reminds me of what it must have been like in Jersey in c.2001 when a reasonably handsome teenager’s voice broke and everybody suddenly noticed that it was approximately 394 trillion octaves deeper than anybody else’s. All great fun, but I’m not sure what it has got to do with the board game. :)

[@21cabbage93]

Have to get this in Italian in uk which is a shame but shouldn’t take anything away from the game

[@jelmervanriet790]

Get this on BGC then! Sounds fantastic

[@bomberworld1153]

I feel called out about the cooking thing...

[@MrRevan12345]

please do one of these on twilight imperium its become one of my groups favorite games and id love to see others get encouraged to try it out

[@David5thUltra]

I bought Fury Of Dracula after playing the original at a friends house. :)

[@radar4077]

Literally cooking while watching this xD

[@joshuaplank9791]

19:25 As someone who listens to these videos to pass the time in the lab, I feel pretty called out.

[@5ammy13]

I played Whitehall Mystery first and I love how bare-bones it is when compared to Letters of Whitechappel which I played layer on. The first game of Whitehall Mystery I played Jack, and it was so tense, I got caught on my last move... The cops needed to investigate 1 of 3 locations and they it was a 1 in 3 chance they find me... And they picked the one I was in... Darn it was one of my best board gaming experience ever... It's amazing...

[@bl3993]

As a veteran Whitechapel player, I am going to have to get this.

[@DarthFlauschi]

Damm you Adam, again we bought this. Because you recommended it. Like Murder in Hong Kong xD These Boardgame people should pay you 😆

[@antonypassmore7421]

FUUUUUU**! really want to buy this one now. Stop making so many games look really good

[@andrewnrbarnes]

Is this appearing on board game club, I really want to see it in action

[@andyjagodzinski5254]

Fury of Dracula is the only one I have played and I enjoy it

[@Dwaggienite]

Holy shit, Adam. YOU GOT TO TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT THAT DRAGON GOWN. I WANT ONE.

[@VirelanAndakTakaishi]

No, Adam, I am not cooking! I am emptying the dishwasher!

[@raiyanamin8914]

I didn't skip to 1:32, just lowered the volume. Real unique huh...

[@BertoMcBertostein]

That shirt: Detroit, NY City. My favorite location in the US.

[@Ragan31687]

PLEASE PLEASE Play this on Board Game Club!

[@WARDEATHFUN]

Great, another game to buy...

[@viperlike498]

I am desperate to find this game but its sold out everywhere online and in my nearby stores

[@luchilenium]

Have you ever played Fury of Dracula? It's one of my faves and seems a bit similar to this. Would love to hear your thoughts on it :)

[@danrodd8283]

Hidden movement game: Pyramid on penqueen massively underrated

[@Ebolson1019]

I enjoy letters from whitechapel, set up takes almost no time unless you count the placing of wretched pawns as set up and not game play. I will agree that the game play takes a while, 2-3 hours is my ususal estimate.

[@shamamismael4300]

Just at the right moment

[@asmodean26]

Looks like a great game.

[@DirdyRenegade]

Quick question. I’ve never played this game so bare with me. Say I’m playing as Jack and I’m standing on space 63 and someone searches for a clue on 63 do I say that’s the space I’m standing on? Or is that only if they say make an arrest?

[@NoRollsBarred]

ADAM: you don't tell them that you're currently there, but you do put a clue token on that space on the board. It's then up to the cops to work out if you're currently there or if you were there on a previous round

[@jdixon390]

Should have been a review of Subbuteo or Klask to mark England bringing football home tomorrow

[@charlier.k4934]

Play this together when social distancing is finally over!

[@Butterbrotpapier22]

I recently played this game for the first time and found it quite frustrating 😅 and not satisfying. We were often really close but then lost Jack again. In the end I was glad when the game was over and I could play something else. Maybe with the right group of people it can be fun

[@jeffm840]

This is all good and all, but where can I actually get a copy of this game????

[@manuelkong10]

with more than two players the cops should NOT be allowed to converse or interact----in fact, they should have to write down the next destination of their cop and move simultaneously (unless they have an Inspector Frederick Abberlaine card?)

[@SoulTarot90]

Guys, i don’t find it anywhere in my country anymore... and also not abroad... where to buy from?

[@KHFMcAwesome]

“Jack's a prick!” Well I guess I’ll go watch something else then! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexisle7053]

So what is difference between this n Whitechapel beside the body parts?

[@dominicsevilla1189]

I was cooking but i did love it and want the game lol

[@s_215]

Damn that face on the rack behind Adam looks scary as heck!